I personally really love Lextek, I think most of my exhausts in the future will be Lextek, I am certainly planning on putting on my project A2 bike. I was already plenty impressed by the 160 pound full system for my MT125, so I don't think I'll be disappointed any time soon. If it's dry when you're near Exeter, I'd recommend going along the A30 a bit and dart off towards Exmouth, gorgeous beach town with some really lovely roads around it. If I see you (supposing it is dry), I'll be sure to give a nod or 20
I am impressed with the system. It'll be interesting to see how it holds up, but quality is good. I've been to Exmouth years ago (my dad was from Plymouth). I'll give you shout when i'm heading down
It’s quiet. I’ve noticed recently some full systems ending up quieter than a slip-on. The reflash will improve it, even if you just do the factory one. Triumph has fantastic stock fuel mapping but a full exhaust will change the airflow and will benefit from tuning.
I replaced my end can with a much more free flowing option a couple of months back, been convinced the mapping isnt right since, will give the ECU reboot a go first thing tomorrow now I've seen this video. I'm tempted to get the rest of the system if the ECU can be made to "re-learn" the pipe. Interested to see what figures come back from your dyno trip.
Update: noticable improvement with significantly less popping and cracks on over run. I'm a happy boy indeed :) dependent on your dyno results think I may consider the decat route too! Edit: typo
This seemed to be fine on the standard map. I had the bike serviced yesterday and instead of going through the process I described in the video the Triumph Tech did the reset for me. I then went for a 45 or so minute ride, and all seemed good. I will keep an eye on it, then report back when i've had the chance to get it on the dyno....
I had the Arrow map before the decat and it was perfect. But after the decat not so much. The throttle just doesn't feel as responsive for me. The growl is nice though
Very much interested in your follow up videos. I too own a Tiger 800 XCa. Price wise it appears to me to be reasonable, build quality looks pretty good as well. Cheers 👍🏼 👏👏👏 😎 🇺🇸
Excellent video, thank you. I have just fitted the same to my Tiger 800. One thing that has been raised is the potential for this, any other aftermarket Tiger systems, to melt the rear indicator. Did you see any occurrence of this with your set up?
Thanks, no noticeable change to either to be honest. The benefits are less weight and a different exhaust note. The decat header does reduce the heat that the cat used to put out, but it’s not massively different
@@mancavemoto happy for you to email me with possible cost. Ideally I'd want/install the can only; for emissions and warranty. Doesnt de-cat void the road legal status? Just curious...
The end can and link pipe are separate pieces, but they are together on the stock system. The decat header stayed on the bike. Might be easiet to message via Instagram or Facebook?
It’ll be interesting to see how it has changed the performance. I still have the cat on my 2015 XRx although when I bought the bike new I also bought the Arrow can option.
I just recently traded a cruiser bike for an XCA. Absolutely love it. But after a few hours on the road at 60-70 mph, perhaps around 3k rpms.... the getting used to the screaming, high pitched noise is becoming a problem for me. Any suggestions other than using ear plugs and maybe a new exhaust? My focus is not performance but noise/frequency reduction. The sound in your video is great, throaty. But seems to be taken from behind the can. From your riding position, do you hear a lower frequency noise, or still i high pitch whine from the engine below? Would a low pitch exhaust solve my problem or i will still hear the screaming engine below me? Thanks!
Yes it sounds great, particularly when riding round the twisties, but I found this can too 'high pitched' on longer motorway journeys, after about half an hour at a constand 70mph it was getting on my nerves. I'll be posting an update video soon.
@@mancavemoto so far, ear plugs are working well for me. i dont hear much anything else, but still feel safer on the XCA than on my cruiser. Probably better bike, more aggressive riding position. After seeing many videos, I was thinking Akrapovic had the throatiest noise of all. But i go on their website and the sampling audio files from the stock exhaust and Akrapovic sound exactly the same for an untrained ear like mine. It all seems very confusing to me, and i would want to understand better before I shell out $800 for a new system. So far, $20 ear plugs are doing the trick. my only resort is to ask guys like you and others that wnt through the experience of changing the exhaust and understanding your perspective from how it sounds in the actual cockpit (not from an observer standpoint, which i dont really care much about as long as I'm not making much noisier). Looking forward to more video updates on this. Thanks!
Another great insight video 👍🏼 Would be keen to hear if the rest process you described made any difference & the thoughts of the triumph techs. Reason being I have a decat header waiting to go on my Speed Triple R (17) but don’t want the fueling to be poor & risk damage by running too lean etc. Any thoughts welcomed 👍🏼 & will keep an eye on for the follow up video. Ps very impressed with a Lextech link pipe I bought for my Fireblade 👌🏼
Hi. Got header pipes from Lextek, might get end can in couple months. Need to fit them now :) Question, when you attached them to engine, did you use any paste? Like copper paste? Or screw back same as they came out?
Thanks for the video,sounds very nice and well made ,may I ask you where did you find that cover for the seat ? 😅 looks pretty good too and I would like to protect from scratching in my rides ,thank you very much in advance
Sounds much better than I could capture in the video tbh. It would sound good and would save a big chunk of weight. But it is surprising how much the cat affects the exhaust note. When I fitted an xpipe to my Street Twin with the stick exhaust, the change in sound was quite dramatic
Hi, can you please tell what torque number is needed for the downpipe to the cyclinder head? I'm not a torque maniac but this is subject to heat and metal expansion so my only concern not to overtighten the nuts Thank you!
Sorry i missed this message. Its not tight at all, just 10nm. As a tiger owner, you might find this useful www.triumphtiger.ru/manuals/Tiger_800_Torque_Settings.pdf
Its been great, but I have to admit to switching the end can back to stock. It made a great sound when scratching around the back roads, but on A road and Motorways it was just too high pitched and became annoying after 15-20 minutes. But it still looks like new. I'm going to post an update video and explain my reasoning for the switch. Purely down to personal preference
@@mancavemoto Thanks for the reply. I've got the same problem, I want to be heard for filtering etc. However I don't want an asbo exhaust and the Street triple seems to be painfully quiet or MotoGP loud. Looking forward to the update video.
Good point Paul, Its certainly a thorny subject and is something I weighed up before fitting the pipe. Catalytic converters do obviously cut back on noxious exhaust emissions. Without testing its hard to say exactly what change this exhaust makes, but given that the use of the bike is relatively light, it may be not much? Can this be offset by the reduction in heat and the subsequent more fuel efficient running of the engine? Somewhat I would say. One of the converters roles is to convert Carbon Monoxide into Carbon Dioxide, which is still the biggest contributer to greenhouse gases. Also the converters use Platinum and Palladium for the conversion process, both of which create there own massive environmental pollution problems (although this is obviously a moot point given that the bike already had a cat on it). The Tiger engine is already highly efficient, interestingly the cat was much smaller on this bike than I have seen on many others. So weighing it all up, I don't feel as if its an overly irresponsible act?
Manufacturers keep castrating their bikes to meet regulations. In reality they go to far bij making the engine too lean. That causes a bad running underpowered engine that uses more fuel than a tuned bike. The cat is there for a reason but I don't think the difference is that big.
To have a Triumph and put a Lextek exhaust on it, is like drinking a £4000 Don Pėrignon from a plastic cup. It tastes the same but shouldn't be done...
@@mancavemoto well like I said its ok but shouldn't be done. Just like you wouldn't go to a restaurant in flip flops, it can be done but shouldn't. At least scrape the lextek logo and stick a yoshi or akrapovic badge 😅✌ can get the of ebay
So it’s an ‘image’ thing? If I stick another badge on it it’s still a lextek pipe, the only thIng that has changed is other people’s perception. The quality of the construction is good, it sounds ok so I don’t see a problem. Maybe I just take things at face value and am not a brand snob? Oh and I’ve been to plenty of restaurants in flip flops 😂 Each to their own I say. My bike, my rules...
@@mancavemoto my bike my rules.. chill mate chill. Exhaust is part of your engine and it's a performance part, not just aesthetics and 'sound' An akrapovic is expensive because of materials used and all test done prior to selling it. That's why I'll pick a well known brand, they put effort and time into making stuff
It wasn't simplified that much. I didn't think anyone would need instructions on how to undo bolts. Yes they are fiddly to get to and having a selection of spanners and socket arms helps, but there was no need to realease the rad mounts if you take your time.
@@mancavemoto yeah it helped a lot, also if you have the upper heed crash bars they get in the way too. Just a comment, after you vis was very helpful indeed. Especially the torque settings. I've also noticed improvement in fuel economy?👍
Thanks for the review. Can't wait for the follow-up.
Need the link pipe for LXR to go with this 😅
@@adammoorby99 it is listed here :) www.lextekproducts.com/EXHKIT18663/for/LEXMOTO/LXR+125
I personally really love Lextek, I think most of my exhausts in the future will be Lextek, I am certainly planning on putting on my project A2 bike. I was already plenty impressed by the 160 pound full system for my MT125, so I don't think I'll be disappointed any time soon. If it's dry when you're near Exeter, I'd recommend going along the A30 a bit and dart off towards Exmouth, gorgeous beach town with some really lovely roads around it. If I see you (supposing it is dry), I'll be sure to give a nod or 20
I am impressed with the system. It'll be interesting to see how it holds up, but quality is good. I've been to Exmouth years ago (my dad was from Plymouth). I'll give you shout when i'm heading down
Great video. Looking forward to seeing the dyno video when you get down to Lextek
Cheers, it’ll be interesting to see how it holds up over the long term. First impressions seem good
Looks good, much more neater setup, best feeling ever... 😁👍💪
Its noticably smaller and quite a bit lighter, no regrets so far
It’s quiet. I’ve noticed recently some full systems ending up quieter than a slip-on. The reflash will improve it, even if you just do the factory one. Triumph has fantastic stock fuel mapping but a full exhaust will change the airflow and will benefit from tuning.
Its louder than stock, the cat tends to muffle at lot of exhaust sounds
Thanks so much for the overview.
No problem, there will be a quick update coming along soon
That is a good sounding exhaust! Nice video, Cheers, Steve
Cheers Steve
I replaced my end can with a much more free flowing option a couple of months back, been convinced the mapping isnt right since, will give the ECU reboot a go first thing tomorrow now I've seen this video.
I'm tempted to get the rest of the system if the ECU can be made to "re-learn" the pipe. Interested to see what figures come back from your dyno trip.
Update: noticable improvement with significantly less popping and cracks on over run. I'm a happy boy indeed :) dependent on your dyno results think I may consider the decat route too!
Edit: typo
This seemed to be fine on the standard map. I had the bike serviced yesterday and instead of going through the process I described in the video the Triumph Tech did the reset for me. I then went for a 45 or so minute ride, and all seemed good. I will keep an eye on it, then report back when i've had the chance to get it on the dyno....
Sounds like a beauty Tony, I’m sure your pleased.
Cheers Dave, Yep seems good so far!
Get the arrow map installed from triumph. Transforms the fueling.
I’ll be investigating this....thanks
I had the Arrow map before the decat and it was perfect. But after the decat not so much. The throttle just doesn't feel as responsive for me. The growl is nice though
Very much interested in your follow up videos. I too own a Tiger 800 XCa. Price wise it appears to me to be reasonable, build quality looks pretty good as well. Cheers 👍🏼 👏👏👏 😎 🇺🇸
Thanks Bradley, I’ll make sure I post my findings once it’s been in the bike a while
Excellent video, thank you. I have just fitted the same to my Tiger 800. One thing that has been raised is the potential for this, any other aftermarket Tiger systems, to melt the rear indicator. Did you see any occurrence of this with your set up?
Nope can't say i did
Very Nice!!!!!!!
Tuta from Brazil.
Thank very much for amazing video...
Cheers!
Nice Tony, sounds like mine with the Arrow can,. Be prepared for a bit more heat on your Derry air !
Cheers, I’m hoping it’ll run a little cooler, the cat does kick out a bit of heat
Very Helpful. How is the fuel consumption and HP improvements? Any cons of decatting so far? Thanks
Thanks, no noticeable change to either to be honest. The benefits are less weight and a different exhaust note. The decat header does reduce the heat that the cat used to put out, but it’s not massively different
Awesome, thank you for your helpful answer 💪
sounds lovely! quick question - would it sound similar without the decat? i.e. with just the VP1 end can? Waiting for them to come back in stock.
Almost yes, I’ve still got the end can and link pipe here boxed up if you’re interested? I took it off when I sold the Bike
@@mancavemoto happy for you to email me with possible cost. Ideally I'd want/install the can only; for emissions and warranty. Doesnt de-cat void the road legal status? Just curious...
The end can and link pipe are separate pieces, but they are together on the stock system. The decat header stayed on the bike. Might be easiet to message via Instagram or Facebook?
@@mancavemoto ahhh yes I see now what you mean! Perfect, will find you on FB and message there.
@@ashw5487 Did you sell the exhaust? I am interested too.
It’ll be interesting to see how it has changed the performance. I still have the cat on my 2015 XRx although when I bought the bike new I also bought the Arrow can option.
Yep, I’ll be watching the fuel consumption. Since I’ve owned the bike it’s averaged about 63 mpg.
I just recently traded a cruiser bike for an XCA. Absolutely love it. But after a few hours on the road at 60-70 mph, perhaps around 3k rpms.... the getting used to the screaming, high pitched noise is becoming a problem for me. Any suggestions other than using ear plugs and maybe a new exhaust? My focus is not performance but noise/frequency reduction. The sound in your video is great, throaty. But seems to be taken from behind the can. From your riding position, do you hear a lower frequency noise, or still i high pitch whine from the engine below? Would a low pitch exhaust solve my problem or i will still hear the screaming engine below me? Thanks!
Yes it sounds great, particularly when riding round the twisties, but I found this can too 'high pitched' on longer motorway journeys, after about half an hour at a constand 70mph it was getting on my nerves. I'll be posting an update video soon.
@@mancavemoto so far, ear plugs are working well for me. i dont hear much anything else, but still feel safer on the XCA than on my cruiser. Probably better bike, more aggressive riding position. After seeing many videos, I was thinking Akrapovic had the throatiest noise of all. But i go on their website and the sampling audio files from the stock exhaust and Akrapovic sound exactly the same for an untrained ear like mine. It all seems very confusing to me, and i would want to understand better before I shell out $800 for a new system. So far, $20 ear plugs are doing the trick. my only resort is to ask guys like you and others that wnt through the experience of changing the exhaust and understanding your perspective from how it sounds in the actual cockpit (not from an observer standpoint, which i dont really care much about as long as I'm not making much noisier). Looking forward to more video updates on this. Thanks!
@@petepinheiro1600and for the heat of the engine? My xcx 800 is really too hot. Do you remember if you improved this problem?
Like it.
Me too
@@mancavemoto that bike is looking awsome as well..
Another great insight video 👍🏼
Would be keen to hear if the rest process you described made any difference & the thoughts of the triumph techs. Reason being I have a decat header waiting to go on my Speed Triple R (17) but don’t want the fueling to be poor & risk damage by running too lean etc.
Any thoughts welcomed 👍🏼 & will keep an eye on for the follow up video.
Ps very impressed with a Lextech link pipe I bought for my Fireblade 👌🏼
Cheers Joe, I’ll definitely do a follow up video
I didn't Perry, my situation changed and I ended up selling the Tiger before I could make a follow up video
Hi. Got header pipes from Lextek, might get end can in couple months. Need to fit them now :) Question, when you attached them to engine, did you use any paste? Like copper paste? Or screw back same as they came out?
I put a little bit of moly grease on the threads just to help stop them seizing
Aivars Silins, do you like the Lextek decat header pipes since you got them?
Thanks for the video,sounds very nice and well made ,may I ask you where did you find that cover for the seat ? 😅 looks pretty good too and I would like to protect from scratching in my rides ,thank you very much in advance
Thanks, the cover is from Cool Covers
sounds good on my speaker! Is there a before and after?
Cool, no sorry I’m didnt record a before as I was thinking tiger owners already know what it sounds like. I probably should have though.....
@@mancavemoto no worries! Just figured it would have been interesting to hear the comparison in a video like this. Enjoy your content! Cheers!
Oh very nice! Does it sound a little meatier lower end rather than a sewing machine?!
It does yes,
@@mancavemoto hi do you remember if the engine was less hot too? Because my xcx 800 for 5 months of the year is really a torture, for the hot question
Sounds nice that , would it have sounded as good with just the end can put on ? ...
Sounds much better than I could capture in the video tbh. It would sound good and would save a big chunk of weight. But it is surprising how much the cat affects the exhaust note. When I fitted an xpipe to my Street Twin with the stick exhaust, the change in sound was quite dramatic
Hi, can you please tell what torque number is needed for the downpipe to the cyclinder head? I'm not a torque maniac but this is subject to heat and metal expansion so my only concern not to overtighten the nuts
Thank you!
Sorry i missed this message. Its not tight at all, just 10nm. As a tiger owner, you might find this useful www.triumphtiger.ru/manuals/Tiger_800_Torque_Settings.pdf
How has the system been holding up? I've got a Street triple RX, curious with this system. Many thanks
Its been great, but I have to admit to switching the end can back to stock. It made a great sound when scratching around the back roads, but on A road and Motorways it was just too high pitched and became annoying after 15-20 minutes. But it still looks like new. I'm going to post an update video and explain my reasoning for the switch. Purely down to personal preference
@@mancavemoto Thanks for the reply. I've got the same problem, I want to be heard for filtering etc. However I don't want an asbo exhaust and the Street triple seems to be painfully quiet or MotoGP loud. Looking forward to the update video.
Did this affect power or fuel consumption much?
I didn't notice any difference in either
How did the Lextek system hold up over time?
It was pretty good. But I ended up trading the Tiger in and now the Lextek exhaust is sitting in a box in my garage
Did it need remapping in the end?
No I never did, and it was fine
Emissions? Environmentally responsible?
Good point Paul, Its certainly a thorny subject and is something I weighed up before fitting the pipe. Catalytic converters do obviously cut back on noxious exhaust emissions. Without testing its hard to say exactly what change this exhaust makes, but given that the use of the bike is relatively light, it may be not much? Can this be offset by the reduction in heat and the subsequent more fuel efficient running of the engine? Somewhat I would say. One of the converters roles is to convert Carbon Monoxide into Carbon Dioxide, which is still the biggest contributer to greenhouse gases. Also the converters use Platinum and Palladium for the conversion process, both of which create there own massive environmental pollution problems (although this is obviously a moot point given that the bike already had a cat on it). The Tiger engine is already highly efficient, interestingly the cat was much smaller on this bike than I have seen on many others. So weighing it all up, I don't feel as if its an overly irresponsible act?
Manufacturers keep castrating their bikes to meet regulations. In reality they go to far bij making the engine too lean. That causes a bad running underpowered engine that uses more fuel than a tuned bike. The cat is there for a reason but I don't think the difference is that big.
To have a Triumph and put a Lextek exhaust on it, is like drinking a £4000 Don Pėrignon from a plastic cup. It tastes the same but shouldn't be done...
If the Dom Perignon tastes the same, does it really matter? I kinda see your point though....
@@mancavemoto well like I said its ok but shouldn't be done. Just like you wouldn't go to a restaurant in flip flops, it can be done but shouldn't. At least scrape the lextek logo and stick a yoshi or akrapovic badge 😅✌ can get the of ebay
So it’s an ‘image’ thing? If I stick another badge on it it’s still a lextek pipe, the only thIng that has changed is other people’s perception. The quality of the construction is good, it sounds ok so I don’t see a problem. Maybe I just take things at face value and am not a brand snob? Oh and I’ve been to plenty of restaurants in flip flops 😂 Each to their own I say. My bike, my rules...
@@mancavemoto my bike my rules.. chill mate chill. Exhaust is part of your engine and it's a performance part, not just aesthetics and 'sound'
An akrapovic is expensive because of materials used and all test done prior to selling it.
That's why I'll pick a well known brand, they put effort and time into making stuff
I’m very chill dude
Very over simplified. It's not that easy, believe me. Also release the radiator mounts to get the job done.
It wasn't simplified that much. I didn't think anyone would need instructions on how to undo bolts. Yes they are fiddly to get to and having a selection of spanners and socket arms helps, but there was no need to realease the rad mounts if you take your time.
@@mancavemoto yeah it helped a lot, also if you have the upper heed crash bars they get in the way too. Just a comment, after you vis was very helpful indeed. Especially the torque settings. I've also noticed improvement in fuel economy?👍