At work we use prados and i can tell you by the seat of the pants the newer version feel better everywhere, even the suspension feels better, could be because they are brand new but if i was in the market the newer versions would be my money.
We bought a 2018 Prado and tow a van a fair bit as well as highway runs. Agree about converter lock not the best. Love 6th gear when not towing. Bloody economical and we love it. As for constantly banging on about 2755 cc, back off me thinks. Plenty smaller capacity diesels live a long life if R and D was done properly. Time will tell if Toyota's put in the hard yards with its testing.
I’ll bang on about whatever I like if you don’t like it perhaps tune out if mommy didn’t tell you perhaps the teacher did if you haven’t got something good to say then don’t say anything
Come on Anthony. You don't need to write like that. Its your TH-cam channel and you can say and do as you please but at least respect other people's opinions as well. We're not kids at primary school. Thomas made some good valid points re his Prado which is why we watch your channels and read the comments. I don't think he really had bad things to say in general other that you bang on a bit about the Prado,s small capacity engine, which you do. Take it on the chin, be happy and lets all get along aye.
Hang on so you want me to take it on the chin being told what to do and I’m not allowed to tell you what to do back it doesn’t work that way don’t tell me what to do or I will tell you what to do do you want me to show respect I have there’s no need to tell me what to do like you said we’re not primary school kids here you treat me like one by telling me what to do I will tell you what to do also 😂 What’s the saying what’s good for the goose is good for the gander or something along those lines that’s what methinks
Quick reminder for everyone the 2755 mL engine is well undersized for the size of the Toyota Land Cruiser Prado and I will not stop banging on about it this is the comment that I disagree with I don’t have any issue with any part of the reply you tell me what to do and you might get a reply like that so if you don’t like the reply don’t make the comment 😁😂😂✌️✌️
Awesome video of the new donk Anthony, The latest 1GD is definitely better on the highway and towing then the older 1GD. 2755cc is small, but at least it's not the Ford 2 litre 4 banger, now that's a stressed engine.
I have just received a new Prado two weeks ago and was expecting a bit more performance with all the hype over the new engine improvements claiming 150kw. My previous car (for 8 years) was a Nissan Pathfinder with 140kw. The Prado is much quieter and smoother, but I was expecting it to feel a bit peppier than the Pathfinder. I think in a straight out drag race the Pathfinder would win and overall the Prado feels far more ponderous and slower reacting than the Nissan and so far uses more fuel. But definitely overall I am extremely happy.
Yes lots of hype and it can’t be that much different that’s why I would suggest people wait until I own one before we can give a further honest review hopefully it shouldn’t be too much longer
I had the same concern in 2019 after 1000 km we drove from Melbourne to Western Australia in 40° heat the fan was on the lowest speed every time I ask the kids in the back are you hot they said no perfect it’s not a problem you don’t need the fence events in the roof and you don’t need the space you lose an extra unreliability Air-Con system in the back
Thanks Ant for the comments, given yours is darker colour, it’s comforting to know. Incidentally, I spoke to a GX owner in the shopping centre and he said he believes there is slight difference in the first 5-10 mins in the car after being parked in a very hot day, but after that makes no difference to 2nd row passengers ( compare to his friends gxl)
The new cylinder head has a redesigned water jacket to improve cooling, and the cylinder block has been made more rigid to accommodate the higher engine performance. Pistons and piston rings have been redesigned, and there is a new cooling fan and coupling. 2021 engine...There’s also a new head gasket for this more powerful engine, presumably done to handle the increased amount of boost that this engine develops.good stuff..,,,,......
Crickey Anthony. I'm sitting here reading your replies and thinking you need to take an anger management course. Lol..Again what Horto writes are just facts about the new engine. We Want to read all this information, it's informative. Thanks for the video's, we all appreciate your time and effort in making them.
Crikey I’m sitting here thinking what’s with all these replies I’m not angry you’ve got to be really careful with how you read text and what contacts it’s in especially when someone talk to the phone with no punctuation I made a simple comment that what he wrote sounds exactly like the write up of what they said about the new engine everybody can keep repeating it as much as they like but the engine is not that much different it is not a new engine copy and I’m still smiling not angry but I’m bit concerned about the way you read into text without any tone so perhaps you should stick to the videos not the comments
Antony I have just read my comment and your reply again and it appears you are over reacting I’m not sure what your issue is but you might want to take another look at everything that’s been written and what you’ve written in a different context perhaps you’re making assumptions seems quite bizarre
Hey Anthony, just watching this again, almost a year after the first time. Your comments at 30:59 to 31:07 about inflation and interest rates have proved to be highly prophetic! And said at the time with passion and concern! If only the Governor of the RBA had watched this video (to the end) then perhaps we wouldn't be in such a mess right now! It just proves, every one should watch you videos to the end! Valuable advice to the last drop!
I’ve been telling people for over a year closer to two since I worked out what actually causes inflation it was quite obvious what was going to happen it’s been happening for decades but what they did in the last two years was and always will make the biggest inflation you’ve ever seen people are not set up for this you can’t run things this way this is the beginning of the end when you read this one in another year you and everybody might really start listening to me thanks for noticing
Hey Steve I could’ve given them a lot of advice on Covid management also Step one look at other countries and see what they did and how it didn’t work so why would you follow in their footsteps you fools that’s what they did and they did it worse than everybody else making the problem even worse. This is a worldwide problem
What was the ticket price of the new prado you drove? Thanks for the video. Another question- I’ve got a 2016 2.8l with a DPF and no issues yet. Do you recommend giving it some stick every now and then to blow everything out? Mines a daily driver, under no strenuous load or used huge distances.
I’ve got 6 of them and all do the small runs except for 1 and all have had differing dpf issues. But the one common thing they all need is at least 1/2 hour run at 100kmh to get them hot enough to burn properly
@@johnhenson4054 what year are your vehicles? I’m considering getting a new Hilux but the only thing holding me back is the DPF. I live in Urban Sydney.
So if we are talking about a remap that makes all the difference why the hell doesn't Toyota roll it out to all 2.8L Prado's. It might help to restore some confidence in Toyota after the DPF debacle.
Bought a new 21 GXL Prado a few months ago. Having driven the old one it is clearly better BUT the vehicle had a significant (a word to describe it is difficult) issue in the gear box or drive train at about 1500 RPM, 57-59km/h. Almost feels like the gearbox/driveshaft is slipping which creates a clear vibration in the driver train. I've had it back to the dealer numerous times and was told "It is a driving characteristic of the vehicle" But they did say they had noticed it in other vehicles and will send the diagnostic to Japan. Almost feels like the gearbox needed to down shift instead of using the higher gear. Im know mechanic so be interested to hear yours and other opinions. Great content.
There is a software update but I’m not getting it I like it staying locked yes it’s on hills on the 60 km it’s a shudder because the gear is a little bit too high push the pedal a bit harder it will kick down or slip it across into third manually I’m not going to risk this perfect software being removed from my vehicle as I’ve discussed in videos which you’ve obviously missed some people think this is a problem but there’s always a fine balance to keep everybody happy
Hey mate, new to the channel, really enjoying the videos Actuall question, do you think they should have just continued to improve on the KD instead of going to the GD or was it too old?
G’day Anthony love your opinion Hilux vs Prado I am trying to decide between the 2 and struggling.Currently drive a 2015 Prado Kakadu and absolutely love it. Looking to change and build a nice tourer for when we are out of lockdown Love to hear your thoughts Regards Alex
A youtube reviewer compared acceleration runs in the pre and post revamped 2.7 and found the new model reduced the 0-100 from 14 to 10 seconds, which is a significant reduction, but it obviously aint no hot rod. I have a new Prado and the engine characteristics compare very favourably against my 3.2 Ranger. The Prado feels a lot more responsive, and the Ranger 6 speed is garbage but has great step-off from standing start (probably why they have disposable gearboxes). I think the throttle delay from standing in Prado is a drivetrain protection feature to reduce load on the drivetrain off the line.
I saw that the 300 lc GX will be just on $90k + ORC. Can't see the Prado getting anything other than the 1GD for the next few years. I reckon the future is going to be petrol hybrid within 10 years.
In summary...can you please confirm? 1KD-FTV is best. 1GD-FTV (2015 - early 2020) no good 1GD-FTV (2020 late - onward) better but still not like (1KD-FTV)? Need to make few decisions...your answer will help alot. Thanks in Advance..
Money aside my 21 VX drives so much better than my 18 GXL. Smoother, more powerful, tows much better. I wouldn’t worry about the $5k extra because that will come back to you on resale.
The gearbox in this thing really is a joke. Terribly set up. It’s like they never drove it when doing real world calibration and doesn’t utilise the engine upgrade. IMO this update overall is a lazy effort by Toyota. If I knew what I know now back at upgrade time (had 1KD, 2015) would I have bought a new one? No, definitely not. Lesson here is not to assume the new is better than the old and to have an overnight test drive to get a real feel for the car.
Me again, stick to the important stuff that you are well practiced at, the mechanicals. The GXL, the VX, its up to the individuals taste and their wallet size. I love your mechanical tips and advise, the cosmetics, its up to us👍
I will do what i like Im good at much more than mechanicals Ill advise as i wish I suggest you stick to positive comments like mummy told You if you haven’t got anything good to say then don’t bother saying anything
I did say it’s a personal choice each to their own but I will advise people based on Knowing the vehicles well and combined knowledge including owning & extensively using tgen
At work we use prados and i can tell you by the seat of the pants the newer version feel better everywhere, even the suspension feels better, could be because they are brand new but if i was in the market the newer versions would be my money.
We bought a 2018 Prado and tow a van a fair bit as well as highway runs. Agree about converter lock not the best. Love 6th gear when not towing. Bloody economical and we love it. As for constantly banging on about 2755 cc, back off me thinks. Plenty smaller capacity diesels live a long life if R and D was done properly. Time will tell if Toyota's put in the hard yards with its testing.
I’ll bang on about whatever I like if you don’t like it perhaps tune out if mommy didn’t tell you perhaps the teacher did if you haven’t got something good to say then don’t say anything
@@Fourby4Diesel 👍🏻👍🏻
Come on Anthony. You don't need to write like that. Its your TH-cam channel and you can say and do as you please but at least respect other people's opinions as well. We're not kids at primary school. Thomas made some good valid points re his Prado which is why we watch your channels and read the comments. I don't think he really had bad things to say in general other that you bang on a bit about the Prado,s small capacity engine, which you do. Take it on the chin, be happy and lets all get along aye.
Hang on so you want me to take it on the chin being told what to do and I’m not allowed to tell you what to do back it doesn’t work that way don’t tell me what to do or I will tell you what to do do you want me to show respect I have there’s no need to tell me what to do like you said we’re not primary school kids here you treat me like one by telling me what to do I will tell you what to do also 😂
What’s the saying what’s good for the goose is good for the gander or something along those lines that’s what methinks
Quick reminder for everyone the 2755 mL engine is well undersized for the size of the Toyota Land Cruiser Prado and I will not stop banging on about it this is the comment that I disagree with I don’t have any issue with any part of the reply you tell me what to do and you might get a reply like that so if you don’t like the reply don’t make the comment
😁😂😂✌️✌️
What do you think of the Mux 2021Isuzu, compared to the pardo . 2021.
I would love you opinion .
Awesome video of the new donk Anthony, The latest 1GD is definitely better on the highway and towing then the older 1GD. 2755cc is small, but at least it's not the Ford 2 litre 4 banger, now that's a stressed engine.
Honest, No Bullshit,Review,
When I test drove for the first time the ECO mode was driving me nuts, had to turn it off. Still can’t wait for it to arrive though 😃
I have just received a new Prado two weeks ago and was expecting a bit more performance with all the hype over the new engine improvements claiming 150kw. My previous car (for 8 years) was a Nissan Pathfinder with 140kw. The Prado is much quieter and smoother, but I was expecting it to feel a bit peppier than the Pathfinder.
I think in a straight out drag race the Pathfinder would win and overall the Prado feels far more ponderous and slower reacting than the Nissan and so far uses more fuel. But definitely overall I am extremely happy.
Yes lots of hype and it can’t be that much different that’s why I would suggest people wait until I own one before we can give a further honest review hopefully it shouldn’t be too much longer
Prado is about 300 kgs heavier
Regularly travels with family of 4, in warmer Brisbane…do you think air con In GX, will be sufficient- think that’s my only concern with gx
I had the same concern in 2019 after 1000 km we drove from Melbourne to Western Australia in 40° heat the fan was on the lowest speed every time I ask the kids in the back are you hot they said no perfect it’s not a problem you don’t need the fence events in the roof and you don’t need the space you lose an extra unreliability Air-Con system in the back
Thanks Ant for the comments, given yours is darker colour, it’s comforting to know. Incidentally, I spoke to a GX owner in the shopping centre and he said he believes there is slight difference in the first 5-10 mins in the car after being parked in a very hot day, but after that makes no difference to 2nd row passengers ( compare to his friends gxl)
thanks for the honest review, it really helps to hear what you think. keep up the great work
Love the rambling and the down to reality POV :)
Hey Anthony, great info thanks mate. What do ya reckon Prado vs Fortuner?
The new cylinder head has a redesigned water jacket to improve cooling, and the cylinder block has been made more rigid to accommodate the higher engine performance. Pistons and piston rings have been redesigned, and there is a new cooling fan and coupling. 2021 engine...There’s also a new head gasket for this more powerful engine, presumably done to handle the increased amount of boost that this engine develops.good stuff..,,,,......
Sounds like the Toyota write up what they said
Trying to make it sound much different to what it is but it’s just not
@@Fourby4Diesel it would be good to check out there new pistons , in a engine breakkdown to see the difference,..hahaha
Crickey Anthony. I'm sitting here reading your replies and thinking you need to take an anger management course. Lol..Again what Horto writes are just facts about the new engine. We Want to read all this information, it's informative. Thanks for the video's, we all appreciate your time and effort in making them.
Crikey I’m sitting here thinking what’s with all these replies I’m not angry you’ve got to be really careful with how you read text and what contacts it’s in especially when someone talk to the phone with no punctuation I made a simple comment that what he wrote sounds exactly like the write up of what they said about the new engine everybody can keep repeating it as much as they like but the engine is not that much different it is not a new engine copy and I’m still smiling not angry but I’m bit concerned about the way you read into text without any tone so perhaps you should stick to the videos not the comments
Antony
I have just read my comment and your reply again and it appears you are over reacting I’m not sure what your issue is but you might want to take another look at everything that’s been written and what you’ve written in a different context perhaps you’re making assumptions seems quite bizarre
Hey Anthony, just watching this again, almost a year after the first time. Your comments at 30:59 to 31:07 about inflation and interest rates have proved to be highly prophetic! And said at the time with passion and concern! If only the Governor of the RBA had watched this video (to the end) then perhaps we wouldn't be in such a mess right now! It just proves, every one should watch you videos to the end! Valuable advice to the last drop!
I’ve been telling people for over a year closer to two since I worked out what actually causes inflation it was quite obvious what was going to happen it’s been happening for decades but what they did in the last two years was and always will make the biggest inflation you’ve ever seen people are not set up for this you can’t run things this way this is the beginning of the end when you read this one in another year you and everybody might really start listening to me thanks for noticing
Hey Steve I could’ve given them a lot of advice on Covid management also
Step one look at other countries and see what they did and how it didn’t work so why would you follow in their footsteps you fools that’s what they did and they did it worse than everybody else making the problem even worse.
This is a worldwide problem
What was the ticket price of the new prado you drove? Thanks for the video.
Another question- I’ve got a 2016 2.8l with a DPF and no issues yet. Do you recommend giving it some stick every now and then to blow everything out? Mines a daily driver, under no strenuous load or used huge distances.
I’ve got 6 of them and all do the small runs except for 1 and all have had differing dpf issues. But the one common thing they all need is at least 1/2 hour run at 100kmh to get them hot enough to burn properly
@@johnhenson4054 what year are your vehicles? I’m considering getting a new Hilux but the only thing holding me back is the DPF. I live in Urban Sydney.
So if we are talking about a remap that makes all the difference why the hell doesn't Toyota roll it out to all 2.8L Prado's. It might help to restore some confidence in Toyota after the DPF debacle.
I have a Honda Accord with a 2.2 n22a1 diesel and a 120prado with the 3.0 1kz te, both 5speed manual. I love the way diesel engines drive.
The wife drives a 120 (2008 diesel) and wants to update to one of these…good info thanks.
If the issue with converter lock in the transmission is just software, why can't the pre 2021 Prado's get this as an update?
Do you recommend a lockup kit for the pre 2020 models?
Bought a new 21 GXL Prado a few months ago. Having driven the old one it is clearly better BUT the vehicle had a significant (a word to describe it is difficult) issue in the gear box or drive train at about 1500 RPM, 57-59km/h. Almost feels like the gearbox/driveshaft is slipping which creates a clear vibration in the driver train. I've had it back to the dealer numerous times and was told "It is a driving characteristic of the vehicle" But they did say they had noticed it in other vehicles and will send the diagnostic to Japan. Almost feels like the gearbox needed to down shift instead of using the higher gear. Im know mechanic so be interested to hear yours and other opinions. Great content.
There is a software update but I’m not getting it I like it staying locked yes it’s on hills on the 60 km it’s a shudder because the gear is a little bit too high push the pedal a bit harder it will kick down or slip it across into third manually I’m not going to risk this perfect software being removed from my vehicle as I’ve discussed in videos which you’ve obviously missed some people think this is a problem but there’s always a fine balance to keep everybody happy
I test drove a 2020 Prado and found the same thing. The vehicle just didn't want to sit at 60km/h.
Hey mate, new to the channel, really enjoying the videos
Actuall question, do you think they should have just continued to improve on the KD instead of going to the GD or was it too old?
Good question I’ll have a fresh video coming in the near future talking more comparing the two engines
My current prado 15 gxl 2.8L, my Next prado will be a GX!
G’day Anthony love your opinion Hilux vs Prado I am trying to decide between the 2 and struggling.Currently drive a 2015 Prado Kakadu and absolutely love it. Looking to change and build a nice tourer for when we are out of lockdown Love to hear your thoughts Regards Alex
A youtube reviewer compared acceleration runs in the pre and post revamped 2.7 and found the new model reduced the 0-100 from 14 to 10 seconds, which is a significant reduction, but it obviously aint no hot rod. I have a new Prado and the engine characteristics compare very favourably against my 3.2 Ranger. The Prado feels a lot more responsive, and the Ranger 6 speed is garbage but has great step-off from standing start (probably why they have disposable gearboxes). I think the throttle delay from standing in Prado is a drivetrain protection feature to reduce load on the drivetrain off the line.
That is completely inaccurate info been provided
4 seconds is massive
I saw that the 300 lc GX will be just on $90k + ORC. Can't see the Prado getting anything other than the 1GD for the next few years. I reckon the future is going to be petrol hybrid within 10 years.
Love the videos mate👍
Another great video Ant
Heard there was a nice new condition 2019 GX on car sales. Even has a rola titan and AT tyres...
SOLD!!
Not sure but in South Africa we have to pay 90000 dollars talk about ripped off
In summary...can you please confirm?
1KD-FTV is best.
1GD-FTV (2015 - early 2020) no good
1GD-FTV (2020 late - onward) better but still not like (1KD-FTV)?
Need to make few decisions...your answer will help alot. Thanks in Advance..
Bingo
Money aside my 21 VX drives so much better than my 18 GXL. Smoother, more powerful, tows much better. I wouldn’t worry about the $5k extra because that will come back to you on resale.
Not worried at all
The gearbox in this thing really is a joke. Terribly set up. It’s like they never drove it when doing real world calibration and doesn’t utilise the engine upgrade. IMO this update overall is a lazy effort by Toyota. If I knew what I know now back at upgrade time (had 1KD, 2015) would I have bought a new one? No, definitely not. Lesson here is not to assume the new is better than the old and to have an overnight test drive to get a real feel for the car.
👍 great video
1GR-FE yo. 203KW. more than a v8 cruiser and lighter. Don't be Diesel biased :P
Me again, stick to the important stuff that you are well practiced at, the mechanicals. The GXL, the VX, its up to the individuals taste and their wallet size. I love your mechanical tips and advise, the cosmetics, its up to us👍
I will do what i like
Im good at much more than mechanicals
Ill advise as i wish
I suggest you stick to positive comments like mummy told You if you haven’t got anything good to say then don’t bother saying anything
I did say it’s a personal choice each to their own but I will advise people based on
Knowing the vehicles well and combined knowledge including owning & extensively using tgen
@@Fourby4Diesel 1VD-FTV?
I'm still watching
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