I would argue that the 4 port dcb104 charger is the best. 8amp rate so a little slower but 4 at once. I use a lot of flexvolt and I can't kill 4 batteries as fast as that can charge them.
@@caseygina3553 dont forget there is a limited amount of times you can charge them, its usually about 500 times untill the battery becomes useless. Also a faster charger kills the battery faster, if you always charge your battery with a 8amp charger it will break faster than if you charge it with a 4amp charger
Thanks for putting this together. Over the years I have tried to find out more about the chargers in kits to make the best decision. This has helped me decide on which kits to buy getting new flexvolt saw and grinder kits. Gonna pick up 2 kits at $305 each. Both kits are 250 dollar tool plus the newer 9AH flex batteries and the 5 amp chargers which I now feel are a good charger I was gonna pass on those kits because at first glance thought they were the older chargers that take to long to charge a 9AH battery.. I have the 8amp charger and I always feel like it might be lowering the longevity of the batteries charging them that hard. I did have to return a saw kit because the battery stopped taking a charge after 8 months of very light use.
Yup 4-6 amp chargers are the ideal range for speed and longevity. Also, Dewalts battery warranty is pretty good...they generally just ask for a few details and then ship you a new battery. Either way, glad the video was helpful and enjoy your new tools!
Regarding the DCB-118 being bundled with FlexVolt: My DCB-118 came with a DCD998 20V Max XR “PowerDetect” hammer drill and 8AH 20V Max battery, which was a Lowe’s exclusive set. It might be the exception. The Home Depot exclusive DCD999 20V Max XR “FlexVolt Advantage” hammer drill with FlexVolt battery probably comes with the same charger since they’re really the same 20V Max drill with slightly different programming on the control board. Differentiating the two with by battery and control board is probably why my 20V Max set came with the DCB-118.
TTC did a good video on PowerDetect vs Flexvolt Advantage...the gist is, they're just letting the tools draw a smidge more power from the bigger batteries. IMO, and I said this in my grinder showdown video, you're better off just getting the full 60v since you have to use the big batteries anyway (the bulk of the expense) but the 60v tools have WAY more beans than the detect/advantage stuff. TTC vid: th-cam.com/video/vJCjaMZR6PI/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TorqueTestChannel
@@SomeGuysGarage Yeah, they made that video while I was still in the return period. I decided to keep it because it slightly beat out the FVA version (unlike the other PD vs FVA tools) and I don’t have any 60V tools/batteries anyway. I’m not even sure they make a true FlexVolt hammer drill until you step up to SDS, SDS+, SDS Max, etc. Also, I had a Lowe’s gift card that I couldn’t spend at Home Depot. ;) Love that 8AH battery but I still need to get that better-performing 6AH that TTC used.
@@emmettturner9452the 9AH is where it's at in the 60v flexvolt batteries, don't bother with the 6ah. You're right, they don't make a hammer drill in 60v, there's no real point because SDS type drills are really where it's at for concrete drilling. I actually find myself hardly using my hammer drills these days, I usually either go for the smaller DCD708 or DCD800's...or my corded sds+ for anything concrete hard...or this year I did pick up the 60v mixing drill if I need gobs of torque at low rpm (auger bits, larger holes in steel, etc.).
@@SomeGuysGarage Yeah, but I have absolutely nothing that can use the extra oomph at 60V. The 9AH makes extra oomph in 20V Max tools too but not quite as much as the 6AH 20V Max which is why my sights are set on that one (not the FlexVolt 6AH). The 6AH 20V Max is the battery that TTC routinely demonstrates outperforming every other battery (including 9AH FlexVolt and 5AH PowerStack) in 20V Max tools. If my dual 20V Max DeWALT mower used FlexVolt at 60V instead of these God-awful 10AH 20V Max batteries then I’d be hunting for a deal on 9AH FlexVolts too. The 10AH 20V Max batteries that came with it are so failure-prone that DeWALT sometimes bundles the mower with 12AH FlexVolt batteries instead… despite it being dual 20V Max instead of 60V. The 8AH and 6AH 20V Max batteries are both high amperage/discharge 21700 cells but TTC credits the specific Samsung cells only used in the 6AH for the extra performance.
@@emmettturner9452 Oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense then. I thought you meant the flexvolt 6ah :) but ya, the "regular" 20v 6ah is a double stack of 21700's in parallel, hence why it makes all the beans.
There is 1 other charger that charges faster then the dcb118 which is the dcb1112. It has a 12amp charge rate. However your only going to get the advantage with batteries that have 21700 cells or powerstack i believe. At least i know thats how milwaukee advertises their super charger. Also there is the 4 port simultaneous charger that is the same rate as the dcb118. 8amp rate. My favorite charger. And a little bonus is the 4 port will charge 12v batteries. Charge times also fluctuate depending on specific batteries at least with all the fast chargers. Like i said 21700 cell batteries and powerstacks charge at faster rates. The 4 port charger will charge a 20v 4ah slim high output faster then a 12v 5ah battery. 20v x 4= 80wh and 12v x 5=60wh
When I was charging my 5 amp power stack with the dcb094 using a power supply that shows the outgoing wattage, it was charging that battery with the full 100w,
DCB118 and DCB1112 both have fans, but the fasn are for the batteries. If you look at the battery mount area, you see the louvers and if you look on top of the battery you see corresponding louvers, it actually pushes air thru the battiers to cool them from use and also because they get hot when you charge so fast.
The chargers themselves get really hot too, converting over 100 watts of AC to DC uses up a fair bit of energy...but that's a neat theory that they're cooling the battery too.
I have quite a few FlexVolt tools including the table saw, grinder, circ saw and a couple others. The table saw came with one of the yellow fast chargers and I gotta admit it is fast and yes loud but fast and for professional use fast is good. I actually found another one on Ebay unboxed new and it was as advertised for like 40 bucks. I use them a lot. As you note, I have about four or five at least 115 chargers the common kit charger. If you got time, just fine. It is interesting, but I just got the FlexVolt snow blower that hasn't gone on sale at all since introduction about a year ago (Nov 2023). But every year Murdoch's has a 25% sale off ALL DeWalt and I scored the snow blower with two 12 AH (20 volt) batts...and TWO chargers... the DCB1104 which I'd never seen at 4AH. I guess they did that for "fast charging" of two 12AH FlexVolts that came with the Snow Blower. It is interesting that they just didn't throw one of the 6AH chargers or even the yellow fast charger like they did with the table saw...
@@Redfour5 you are correct, the 1104 has clear two stage charging. Technically the old 115 did a bit of that as well (they've always had balance terminals for the individual cells), but the 1104 is improved and shows it with the indicator lights. I've got one or two of the new 1104's now, they're just as good as the 115's, no complaints on charge speed or anything with them.
I see this is a year old yet very informative. I recently made a couple of purchases that came with 2 DCB1104 chargers. They're 4 amp and also have 2 stage charging. So basically like the black 6 amp you've shown but only 4 amp. I was wondering your opinion on them.
The DCB1104 is the replacement for the DCB115....both 4 amp chargers but the 1104 has the newer 2 stage logic which should extend the life of the batteries slightly. I have a couple of the 1104's now and they would be my recommendation over the 115 today.
Any ideas on why the USB charger did only ~28 watts the other day but will do 65 watts now? Same batteries, hadn't been further charged, same temperature, same everything...
Maybe it failed to negotiate USB-PD? Not all USB-C cables support Power Delivery specification but it sounds like you were using the same cable both times so I’m not sure why it might fail and fall back. Wouldn’t be the first time I’ve heard of USB-C failing to negotiate PD and falling back to a lower charge rate despite everything being PD-compliant so it does happen. One other possibility is that the batteries before were nearly charged so it immediately went to slower stage 2 charging.
@@emmettturner9452 Possibly something with USB-PD ya...same cable, same battery, same 1 bar state of charge (I hadn't used/charged the powerstack battery between these videos). My one other guess, when I filmed the short video I was using it between the adapter, the laptop, other ac adapters, etc. so perhaps it got confused along the way (despite full power cycles).
i only have the option to buy either dcb107 or the dcb118, none of the other chargers are not in stock in my country, i will use 5ah battery, what should i get? i have heard fast charging degrades battery faster.
hi, is posible charge the small batteries but with the bigger charguers for example the DCB 112 or i need the DCB 100, I have this question because I see that the charger DCB 100 has less terminals that the others, im sorry for my english, i'm mexican
It can change the output or even not charge at all.. depending on the temperature. So your USB C charger might have had a temp issue and that's why it was not charging at full amperage in your previous video. (likely).
Potentially, though everything was at normal ambient temps when I was doing this, shouldn't have been too hot or cold... I think part of it, after having it for a while, is the usb-c negotiation is finicky and doesn't always decide for the higher rate.
@@SomeGuysGarage Well again. Even on those other dewalt chargers.. It will not charge if it's too cold. It will actually turn on a yellow light and not charge. So yeah, they are finicky.. it's all just safety stuff built in to prevent fires.. that's the main concern, and why they are so nanny state
nice video. I have the USB one. will work with USB C solar panel. also I have 12V to 100 watt USB C PD adapter and charges 100 watt. also will charge at 5W from USB C . it does with low sun on 100 watt panel. changes charge rate to sun. love that. and they have 12V input charger for 12V/20V/60V battery. works great from my truck. and they have 2 and 4 slot charger and a 2 slot that takes old 18V pod type and 20V at same time. the 4 port charger also has 1500 watt inverter in it. works great on AC power tools
@@SomeGuysGarage my DeWalt 10 AH 20V is running my laptop VIA USB C from USB C in out unit. . as I type. runs like 8 to 10 hours. now get DeWalt with 20V 21in lawn mower that takes 2 battery's and comes with 2 10AH sold at Home Depot but only comes with 1 charger. but you need both battery's charged to run mower. ? thought was odd only 1 battery charger in kit.
@@robertmeyer4744 Yeah...I guess the thought is charge back to back since you aren't always cutting the grass. Or they do make multi-bay chargers but might have driven the price up past the number they wanted.
@@SomeGuysGarage I have 4 port charger what I use. mine came with 2 -5AH battery's. had it a few years . the new one comes with 10 AH battery. great mower.
There's usually a small "click", it's not fully locked in to the point you need to press a release, but there is a detent you pass when it's on the charger properly.
Would be nice IF DeWalt make the compatibility chart for all batteries and chargers so I can sort out my head to understand which battery will works with the charger best on the website. :/
LoL or have any sensible model number scheme or actually listed specs in full and consistently on their website too :) Their website is honestly awful.
@@SomeGuysGarage Yeah all companies need to do that and put it on their website. I'm getting DeWalt prune (on sale) & battery and is now looking for right charger
The 15" MacBook Pro comes with a 140W USB-C wall brick. I'm guessing that will charge a DeWalt battery at 100W with the USB charger. I usually just use a compact 30W brick with the computer as that's more than adequate unless I need a fast recharge.
Charging your tool batteries slowly will prolong the useful life of your batteries. It’s good to have quick charging when you need it, but speed isn’t the only consideration when charging lithium batteries.
Agreed, that's why the ~4 amp chargers are kind of the sweet spot...no need for the big 6-8 amp chargers, but not as slow as the little 2 amp ones. Good for battery health/life.
@@SomeGuysGarage I always use the slowest charger time permits. I’m probably excessively paranoid about battery life, but I hate paying for them so they get babied.
@@sswwooppee I have a bunch that are getting quite old, 2016-2017ish era, and still hold a charge just fine...they've been charged on all different chargers, sometimes fully, sometimes partially, left in a cold (nearly freezing) garage for months every winter, you name it...I don't baby them and have yet to lose one, other than a membrane button for battery level on a less than year old 3ah which Dewalt just sent a new battery. I think they're more durable than you'd expect.
I recently capacity tested a 4ah battery from 2014, it's been abused by me, though I'm not a tradie and it probably only gets cycled 5 times a month in average, and I got it second hand, I was very surprised when I capacity tested it and find it's still just over 3ah, given that the brand new 5ah pack gave me 4.5ah capacity at 1.5a load that's probably not a massive loss. It's only been on a 4a charger in the 7 years I've had it.
I don't get why you're saying the DCB118 is wasting more energy. It's obviously using more to charge faster, but it sounds like you're saying it is less efficient.
It is less efficient...it's an 8 amp charger at 20v that's ~160 watts of output to the battery, it was drawing nearly 200 watts. That means ~40 watts is getting wasted as heat (hence the fan cooling). If you compare that proportionally to the other chargers, the DCB118 is wasting a higher percentage of its input power as heat rather than going into the battery. This is the downside of fast charging, there's more wasted energy (ie less efficient).
@@SomeGuysGarage That makes sense, but there are two issues, how much of that extra current is used by the fan and how can we be certain how much current is actually getting to the battery? Id assume it's around 8 amps, but it could be higher or lower. Also, these batteries aren't really 20v, they are 18v, so that changes the math.
@@notslowtube The fan is still energy it's drawing that isn't being put into the battery, I can't imagine the fan accounts for more than 1-2 watts though. They are 18v nominal, a fully charged one will read 20v or thereabouts across the terminals (I'll do a video to show that shortly). The charging voltage needs to be slightly higher than the battery voltage to actually be able to charge too, so it will see 20v output from the charger (I'll see if I can probe that too).
If you put a meter on them when charged they do read 20v (or a bit higher) and will hold that voltage surprisingly long as you use them. 18v is the nominal voltage for the lithium cells inside though, but the batteries will drop down lower than 18v (to like 15-16v) before the tools shut off, so it's not really an accurate number either. In the end they should be called 15.5-20.4v batteries lol
The word "max" is there for a reason. Yes, they are 18v "nominal", like most others. But to say they aren't 20v is also incorrect, as they are. It's not much different than any other battery, really. 1.5v dry cell batteries are only at 1.5v for a part of their charged life. Your 12v car battery is actually higher, typically about 12.8-12.9 - some really good ones can even top 13v. If it reads 12v, it's considered "discharged" and needs to be charged. Much less than 11.5 and it won't even start most engines.
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3:51 fastest is the 1112 12 amp
^^ there ya go folks, you can get upwards of 12 amps of Dewalt electrons :)
Faster chargers = money saved on expensive batteries as fewer can recharge faster and keep you going. 1112 + Flexvolts ftw! 💪🏻
I would argue that the 4 port dcb104 charger is the best. 8amp rate so a little slower but 4 at once. I use a lot of flexvolt and I can't kill 4 batteries as fast as that can charge them.
@@bossmanz28 A power strip works wonders. ;) But yeah, that's a nice convenient package and generally fast enough.
@@caseygina3553 dont forget there is a limited amount of times you can charge them, its usually about 500 times untill the battery becomes useless. Also a faster charger kills the battery faster, if you always charge your battery with a 8amp charger it will break faster than if you charge it with a 4amp charger
Thanks for putting this together. Over the years I have tried to find out more about the chargers in kits to make the best decision. This has helped me decide on which kits to buy getting new flexvolt saw and grinder kits. Gonna pick up 2 kits at $305 each. Both kits are 250 dollar tool plus the newer 9AH flex batteries and the 5 amp chargers which I now feel are a good charger I was gonna pass on those kits because at first glance thought they were the older chargers that take to long to charge a 9AH battery.. I have the 8amp charger and I always feel like it might be lowering the longevity of the batteries charging them that hard. I did have to return a saw kit because the battery stopped taking a charge after 8 months of very light use.
Yup 4-6 amp chargers are the ideal range for speed and longevity. Also, Dewalts battery warranty is pretty good...they generally just ask for a few details and then ship you a new battery.
Either way, glad the video was helpful and enjoy your new tools!
Regarding the DCB-118 being bundled with FlexVolt:
My DCB-118 came with a DCD998 20V Max XR “PowerDetect” hammer drill and 8AH 20V Max battery, which was a Lowe’s exclusive set. It might be the exception. The Home Depot exclusive DCD999 20V Max XR “FlexVolt Advantage” hammer drill with FlexVolt battery probably comes with the same charger since they’re really the same 20V Max drill with slightly different programming on the control board.
Differentiating the two with by battery and control board is probably why my 20V Max set came with the DCB-118.
TTC did a good video on PowerDetect vs Flexvolt Advantage...the gist is, they're just letting the tools draw a smidge more power from the bigger batteries. IMO, and I said this in my grinder showdown video, you're better off just getting the full 60v since you have to use the big batteries anyway (the bulk of the expense) but the 60v tools have WAY more beans than the detect/advantage stuff.
TTC vid:
th-cam.com/video/vJCjaMZR6PI/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TorqueTestChannel
@@SomeGuysGarage Yeah, they made that video while I was still in the return period. I decided to keep it because it slightly beat out the FVA version (unlike the other PD vs FVA tools) and I don’t have any 60V tools/batteries anyway. I’m not even sure they make a true FlexVolt hammer drill until you step up to SDS, SDS+, SDS Max, etc. Also, I had a Lowe’s gift card that I couldn’t spend at Home Depot. ;) Love that 8AH battery but I still need to get that better-performing 6AH that TTC used.
@@emmettturner9452the 9AH is where it's at in the 60v flexvolt batteries, don't bother with the 6ah.
You're right, they don't make a hammer drill in 60v, there's no real point because SDS type drills are really where it's at for concrete drilling. I actually find myself hardly using my hammer drills these days, I usually either go for the smaller DCD708 or DCD800's...or my corded sds+ for anything concrete hard...or this year I did pick up the 60v mixing drill if I need gobs of torque at low rpm (auger bits, larger holes in steel, etc.).
@@SomeGuysGarage Yeah, but I have absolutely nothing that can use the extra oomph at 60V. The 9AH makes extra oomph in 20V Max tools too but not quite as much as the 6AH 20V Max which is why my sights are set on that one (not the FlexVolt 6AH). The 6AH 20V Max is the battery that TTC routinely demonstrates outperforming every other battery (including 9AH FlexVolt and 5AH PowerStack) in 20V Max tools.
If my dual 20V Max DeWALT mower used FlexVolt at 60V instead of these God-awful 10AH 20V Max batteries then I’d be hunting for a deal on 9AH FlexVolts too. The 10AH 20V Max batteries that came with it are so failure-prone that DeWALT sometimes bundles the mower with 12AH FlexVolt batteries instead… despite it being dual 20V Max instead of 60V.
The 8AH and 6AH 20V Max batteries are both high amperage/discharge 21700 cells but TTC credits the specific Samsung cells only used in the 6AH for the extra performance.
@@emmettturner9452 Oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense then. I thought you meant the flexvolt 6ah :) but ya, the "regular" 20v 6ah is a double stack of 21700's in parallel, hence why it makes all the beans.
I've got the usb-c charger. Using an anker brick I get a full 100w into a 5ah powerstack battery. it's a beast
Right on! They should have shipped it with a full 100w brick themselves to be honest.
There is 1 other charger that charges faster then the dcb118 which is the dcb1112. It has a 12amp charge rate. However your only going to get the advantage with batteries that have 21700 cells or powerstack i believe. At least i know thats how milwaukee advertises their super charger. Also there is the 4 port simultaneous charger that is the same rate as the dcb118. 8amp rate. My favorite charger. And a little bonus is the 4 port will charge 12v batteries. Charge times also fluctuate depending on specific batteries at least with all the fast chargers. Like i said 21700 cell batteries and powerstacks charge at faster rates. The 4 port charger will charge a 20v 4ah slim high output faster then a 12v 5ah battery. 20v x 4= 80wh and 12v x 5=60wh
Outstanding extra info!
very good explanation thank you sir for taking the time to make this helpfull video
glad it was helpful! thanks :)
Thank you for this video. I didn't know which charger would charge a 20V FlexVolt.
Glad it was helpful :) let me know if you ever have any questions!
When I was charging my 5 amp power stack with the dcb094 using a power supply that shows the outgoing wattage, it was charging that battery with the full 100w,
You in the UK? We don't get the 100w brick here :(
DCB118 and DCB1112 both have fans, but the fasn are for the batteries. If you look at the battery mount area, you see the louvers and if you look on top of the battery you see corresponding louvers, it actually pushes air thru the battiers to cool them from use and also because they get hot when you charge so fast.
The chargers themselves get really hot too, converting over 100 watts of AC to DC uses up a fair bit of energy...but that's a neat theory that they're cooling the battery too.
I have quite a few FlexVolt tools including the table saw, grinder, circ saw and a couple others. The table saw came with one of the yellow fast chargers and I gotta admit it is fast and yes loud but fast and for professional use fast is good. I actually found another one on Ebay unboxed new and it was as advertised for like 40 bucks. I use them a lot. As you note, I have about four or five at least 115 chargers the common kit charger. If you got time, just fine.
It is interesting, but I just got the FlexVolt snow blower that hasn't gone on sale at all since introduction about a year ago (Nov 2023). But every year Murdoch's has a 25% sale off ALL DeWalt and I scored the snow blower with two 12 AH (20 volt) batts...and TWO chargers... the DCB1104 which I'd never seen at 4AH. I guess they did that for "fast charging" of two 12AH FlexVolts that came with the Snow Blower.
It is interesting that they just didn't throw one of the 6AH chargers or even the yellow fast charger like they did with the table saw...
The DCB1104 is the replacement for the DCB115, so they're probably just throwing those into everything now.
@@SomeGuysGarage Did a little search. Looks like the difference is the two stage charging... I get why they might be moving to that...
@@Redfour5 you are correct, the 1104 has clear two stage charging. Technically the old 115 did a bit of that as well (they've always had balance terminals for the individual cells), but the 1104 is improved and shows it with the indicator lights.
I've got one or two of the new 1104's now, they're just as good as the 115's, no complaints on charge speed or anything with them.
9:55 the site claims it can output up to 100w, but for some reason it only includes a 65w usb c. Not sure why they don’t just give you a 100w
Yup, probably a cost thing? Though in the UK apparently you get an 100w adapter.
I see this is a year old yet very informative. I recently made a couple of purchases that came with 2 DCB1104 chargers. They're 4 amp and also have 2 stage charging. So basically like the black 6 amp you've shown but only 4 amp. I was wondering your opinion on them.
The DCB1104 is the replacement for the DCB115....both 4 amp chargers but the 1104 has the newer 2 stage logic which should extend the life of the batteries slightly. I have a couple of the 1104's now and they would be my recommendation over the 115 today.
@@SomeGuysGarage Thank you sir !
Any ideas on why the USB charger did only ~28 watts the other day but will do 65 watts now? Same batteries, hadn't been further charged, same temperature, same everything...
Maybe it failed to negotiate USB-PD? Not all USB-C cables support Power Delivery specification but it sounds like you were using the same cable both times so I’m not sure why it might fail and fall back. Wouldn’t be the first time I’ve heard of USB-C failing to negotiate PD and falling back to a lower charge rate despite everything being PD-compliant so it does happen.
One other possibility is that the batteries before were nearly charged so it immediately went to slower stage 2 charging.
@@emmettturner9452 Possibly something with USB-PD ya...same cable, same battery, same 1 bar state of charge (I hadn't used/charged the powerstack battery between these videos).
My one other guess, when I filmed the short video I was using it between the adapter, the laptop, other ac adapters, etc. so perhaps it got confused along the way (despite full power cycles).
Very helpful video. Thank you.
@@hmm0maybe0not welcome!
i only have the option to buy either dcb107 or the dcb118, none of the other chargers are not in stock in my country, i will use 5ah battery, what should i get? i have heard fast charging degrades battery faster.
Either will work, the 107 while slower, will keep your batteries in top shape longer and is probably a less expensive option too, so go that way!
@@SomeGuysGarage thanks
How many amp on the dual charger? Just wanted to know before I purchase the 6 amp
Not too sure, I don't have any of the dual chargers to check first hand.
hi, is posible charge the small batteries but with the bigger charguers for example the DCB 112 or i need the DCB 100, I have this question because I see that the charger DCB 100 has less terminals that the others, im sorry for my english, i'm mexican
The DCB112 should charge anything, the DCB100 is only meant for charging the 12v batteries, not the 20v or 60v, hence fewer pins.
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@@EdwinPadilla14 Happy to help, let me know if you have any other questions!
Very Helpful video.always wondered differences of middle and higher end. I think I will go with dcb115 or dcb1106.
Yup, good choices, they're really in the sweet spot of things :)
It can change the output or even not charge at all.. depending on the temperature. So your USB C charger might have had a temp issue and that's why it was not charging at full amperage in your previous video. (likely).
Potentially, though everything was at normal ambient temps when I was doing this, shouldn't have been too hot or cold...
I think part of it, after having it for a while, is the usb-c negotiation is finicky and doesn't always decide for the higher rate.
@@SomeGuysGarage Well again. Even on those other dewalt chargers.. It will not charge if it's too cold. It will actually turn on a yellow light and not charge. So yeah, they are finicky.. it's all just safety stuff built in to prevent fires.. that's the main concern, and why they are so nanny state
@@calholli fair points...guess nobody wants a battery fire :)
I have a dcb 210 battery but I have a dcb 107 charger does that work together
Yup, will just charge slowly...really slowly...like 8-10 hours slowly.
@SomeGuysGarage I seen that the high dcb charger are better/faster will the still work for aDcb 210 battery
nice video. I have the USB one. will work with USB C solar panel. also I have 12V to 100 watt USB C PD adapter and charges 100 watt. also will charge at 5W from USB C . it does with low sun on 100 watt panel. changes charge rate to sun. love that. and they have 12V input charger for 12V/20V/60V battery. works great from my truck. and they have 2 and 4 slot charger and a 2 slot that takes old 18V pod type and 20V at same time. the 4 port charger also has 1500 watt inverter in it. works great on AC power tools
Nice to see you've tried some things I haven't before :) lots of good info there, thanks!
@@SomeGuysGarage my DeWalt 10 AH 20V is running my laptop VIA USB C from USB C in out unit. . as I type. runs like 8 to 10 hours. now get DeWalt with 20V 21in lawn mower that takes 2 battery's and comes with 2 10AH sold at Home Depot but only comes with 1 charger. but you need both battery's charged to run mower. ? thought was odd only 1 battery charger in kit.
@@robertmeyer4744 Yeah...I guess the thought is charge back to back since you aren't always cutting the grass. Or they do make multi-bay chargers but might have driven the price up past the number they wanted.
@@SomeGuysGarage I have 4 port charger what I use. mine came with 2 -5AH battery's. had it a few years . the new one comes with 10 AH battery. great mower.
when you slide the battery into the charger does it lock?
There's usually a small "click", it's not fully locked in to the point you need to press a release, but there is a detent you pass when it's on the charger properly.
I have the 112 and the 115. I typically use the 115 because it’s fast. So the other one is pretty much a spare charger
@@andythompson3528 yup, the 115 at 4 amps is twice the speed of the 112 at 3 amps
Will any of the chargers work with the Dewalt 40v battery?
As far as I know none of them will. The 40v system was pretty standalone.
Would be nice IF DeWalt make the compatibility chart for all batteries and chargers so I can sort out my head to understand which battery will works with the charger best on the website. :/
LoL or have any sensible model number scheme or actually listed specs in full and consistently on their website too :)
Their website is honestly awful.
@@SomeGuysGarage Yeah all companies need to do that and put it on their website. I'm getting DeWalt prune (on sale) & battery and is now looking for right charger
Why do you keep not saying what the model number is for the second to the last on on the right? Between the 115 and the 118?
Because it's some silly numbers I can't ever remember lol
Can you charge a 54/60V battery to a 18/20V charger?
Yes, you can charge the 60v batteries in most 20v chargers.
Should be 120w output on those usbc dewalt packs so I can quick charge my phone
120w? that's insane, what kind of phone takes 120 watts?
Some smartphones from OnePlus, Motorola, Oppo, and many more can charge with 100-200 W
The 15" MacBook Pro comes with a 140W USB-C wall brick. I'm guessing that will charge a DeWalt battery at 100W with the USB charger. I usually just use a compact 30W brick with the computer as that's more than adequate unless I need a fast recharge.
@@caseygina3553 That would be awesome to see!
My dcb112 will not charge any battery bigger then 5ah? Any reasoning
Will give it a try and report back.
Great vídeo!
Thank you!
Charging your tool batteries slowly will prolong the useful life of your batteries.
It’s good to have quick charging when you need it, but speed isn’t the only consideration when charging lithium batteries.
Agreed, that's why the ~4 amp chargers are kind of the sweet spot...no need for the big 6-8 amp chargers, but not as slow as the little 2 amp ones. Good for battery health/life.
@@SomeGuysGarage I always use the slowest charger time permits. I’m probably excessively paranoid about battery life, but I hate paying for them so they get babied.
@@sswwooppee I have a bunch that are getting quite old, 2016-2017ish era, and still hold a charge just fine...they've been charged on all different chargers, sometimes fully, sometimes partially, left in a cold (nearly freezing) garage for months every winter, you name it...I don't baby them and have yet to lose one, other than a membrane button for battery level on a less than year old 3ah which Dewalt just sent a new battery.
I think they're more durable than you'd expect.
I recently capacity tested a 4ah battery from 2014, it's been abused by me, though I'm not a tradie and it probably only gets cycled 5 times a month in average, and I got it second hand, I was very surprised when I capacity tested it and find it's still just over 3ah, given that the brand new 5ah pack gave me 4.5ah capacity at 1.5a load that's probably not a massive loss. It's only been on a 4a charger in the 7 years I've had it.
I don't get why you're saying the DCB118 is wasting more energy. It's obviously using more to charge faster, but it sounds like you're saying it is less efficient.
It is less efficient...it's an 8 amp charger at 20v that's ~160 watts of output to the battery, it was drawing nearly 200 watts. That means ~40 watts is getting wasted as heat (hence the fan cooling). If you compare that proportionally to the other chargers, the DCB118 is wasting a higher percentage of its input power as heat rather than going into the battery. This is the downside of fast charging, there's more wasted energy (ie less efficient).
@@SomeGuysGarage That makes sense, but there are two issues, how much of that extra current is used by the fan and how can we be certain how much current is actually getting to the battery? Id assume it's around 8 amps, but it could be higher or lower. Also, these batteries aren't really 20v, they are 18v, so that changes the math.
@@notslowtube The fan is still energy it's drawing that isn't being put into the battery, I can't imagine the fan accounts for more than 1-2 watts though.
They are 18v nominal, a fully charged one will read 20v or thereabouts across the terminals (I'll do a video to show that shortly). The charging voltage needs to be slightly higher than the battery voltage to actually be able to charge too, so it will see 20v output from the charger (I'll see if I can probe that too).
@notslowtube - here's how the voltage changes across it's charge state:
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Can I have one of your extra DCB115 chargers someone stole my 20v charger I had a year ago. Il even pay for shipping
Where abouts are you in the world? Probably not too practical to ship versus just buying a new one :)
@@SomeGuysGarage I’m in pa
Dewalt needs to make a dual fast charger just like Milwaukee 🤦🏻♂️
They do have a four bay 8 amp per bay charger....but ya, no dual fast charger (just slow ones).
@ yea I know Milwaukee is doing so and don’t get me wrong I’m all in for dewalt
You dont have the fast charger
Yeah, missing a couple types...
...those are more like 18v batteries, just the laws in the US let Dewalt get aware with missleading labelling.
If you put a meter on them when charged they do read 20v (or a bit higher) and will hold that voltage surprisingly long as you use them.
18v is the nominal voltage for the lithium cells inside though, but the batteries will drop down lower than 18v (to like 15-16v) before the tools shut off, so it's not really an accurate number either. In the end they should be called 15.5-20.4v batteries lol
The word "max" is there for a reason. Yes, they are 18v "nominal", like most others. But to say they aren't 20v is also incorrect, as they are. It's not much different than any other battery, really. 1.5v dry cell batteries are only at 1.5v for a part of their charged life. Your 12v car battery is actually higher, typically about 12.8-12.9 - some really good ones can even top 13v. If it reads 12v, it's considered "discharged" and needs to be charged. Much less than 11.5 and it won't even start most engines.
found a 113
Well that's an oddball one!
Nothing that cannot be found in the specs on Dewalt's website!
LoL you can find things on Dewalt's site? That's a first!