My absolute favorite ship from FASA maybe of all time. Did a long campaign with this ship. Extremely useful ship for being on the fringes of the galaxy and the addition of the Marines add an interesting role play elements.
Me and my brothers used to play the Star Trek FASA ship to ship game. Massive battles, made all the better as we had the lead models fully painted. One game stands out, I was federation, one brother was Romulan and the other Gorn. My objective was to rescue the crew of a freighter, the Gorns had to steal plans, and the Romulans to stop me. I had 2 Chandley Frigates, one with yellow marking and one with red.... 2 Loknars and 2 Larson's. The Gorn had 4 of their flag ship vessels and the Romulans rode with 2 Winged Defenders, proper hard ships to beat, and 2 Romulan Bird of Prey. The game lasted like 4 hours...... ship to ship combat, it had boarding as my brother had the crew personnel and ship boarding module.... and the tactics were so good, using control points to spread out across movement, shields, phasers etc. I remember 1 Chandley got away and a crippled Loknar. Wish people still played FASA as it pisses all over the table top games of today.
I really enjoy these videos about the old FASA designs. I remember back in the day playing the Star Trek Combat Simulator, that this Chandley design was a favorite of mine because I loved the fact it had so many torpedoes that that they fired fore and aft. Good memories! Thank you. :)
Also part of the refit for research and exploration is a change in ship's replicators. They will no longer only produce rations designed to mimic crayons and tide pods.
One of Starfleet's greatest vessels! I love the Chandley, Northampton, Andor, Baker classes, of course the Constitution and Enterprise goes without saying. More more more! :) Thank you!
I enjoy watching your videos, they are the very few to show 360 degree angles. And not just some generic 2D view every one else does. My favourite is that you actually demonstrate detailed armaments location and type.
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and executed and informatively explained in every way shape and form and detail possibly provided indeed, I myself have always liked this ship form the Fasa game as well and still own one of them from the game as well👌.
I have in my-mind a fan-film fight between the two. But...technically I wouldn't be allowed to monetize such a project so I am not sure how to proceed.
austin1839 lol they get a 7x4 bunk instead of the standard 6x3 and extra cheese on nachos damn what a bonus huh! Still stuck with the type 4 phaser rifles while the bridge crew gets the new type 9 which they will never use. LoL
All the FASA ships were added into the PC game Star Fleet Command many years ago by modders and modellers, such as myself and others. For those who don't know, Star Fleet Command is the computer RTC game of Star Fleet Battles. Usually known as SFC it is the reason why Star Trek Legacy was such a flop as player compared Legacy with the vastly superior SFC. There were also the lack of realism and "cheats" allowed in Legacy that made it suck to play. FASA ships work very well when converted to fit into the SFB / SFC gaming system, especially Klingon vessels. FASA did miss out the Star Trek canon phaser banks on the D7 battlecruiser (seen firing in DS9) which SFB / SFC includes. I generally have the FASA ships in my SFC armed with disruptors only and they still do OK. I've modelled starship designs from various sources, including books, drawings, etc. some of which work, others have serious power issues when it comes to charging weapons. For example the New Hampshire Class medium cruiser (created from diagrams found online), based on the Miranda hull, carries 8 x mega turrets (PH4 in SFB / SFC) but lacks the power sources to charge them quickly and keep shield reinforcing, ECM, propulsion and standard phaser defences operational in the heat of battle. Looks impressive but doesn't work when put to the test.
Something that is often overlooked in Star Trek TV and movies is the need for literal boots on the deck, if you will. It's a running joke that the Red Shirts primary purpose is to die so the main actors can live, and there's a lot of truth to that. It's a rare episode or movie (though Enterprises' MACO was a step forward) that showed the Security personal in a solid light. That nearly every foe the Federation faces has dedicated combat persons (or are nearly all trained as warriors of some sort) it is insane that the Federation isn't better equipped to deal with them. While true large scale ground conflicts would be few and far in between there will always be a need for personal whose job is to hold, protect, or intrude on in force, other beings. FASA attempted to account for a wider, more diverse Star Fleet with the addition of such ships as this and the troop transports. While Gene truly wanted an enlightened, forward thinking Federation in his visions all we have to do is look at DS9 and the conflict with the Dominion to fully understand how unrealistic his visions were. We only have to look at our own history to understand that humanity is not ever likely to get past an inherent need to protect and defend itself (and occasionally, force it's whims on others). It's in our very nature.
Deleted my own comment about the same. The voice barely audible and completely drowned under the music on my laptop, sounded a lot better on my desktop. The auto-generated subtitles don't cut it, lol.
Being a Star Fleet Battles player, I'd like to say thanks for this video, but it's weird to see a commando ship with actual offense and frigates are on the small end of the spectrum unless you are playing ISC, Kzinti, or to a lesser extent Romulan and Gorn.
Its now uncommon for Western attack transports to be so well armed, but I think the inspiration for these ships are the US High Speed Transports of WWII (www.google.com/amp/s/thenavalist.com/home/2017/11/15/high-speed-transport-destroyers%3fformat=amp) ships that can deliver a company of commandos and be well armed enough not to need accompanying escorts.
"Frigates" in American naval tradition are usually smaller than destroyers. "Frigates" in Commonwealth naval tradition come in all sizes, usually between light destroyers and medium cruisers. The category also varies a lot historically. "Frigates" in these FASA games are just very fast warships. Meaning they tend to have big powerful engines and they tend to be big powerful vessels (with strong armaments), mostly between cruisers and battleships.
MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE SHIP! MAJOR KUDOS AND THANKS FOR UPLOADING THIS!!! When my best friend and i played the old Trek role playing game, this was the class ship we used. We had replaced the troops quarters with science labs and called our ship, U.S.S. Discovery. i even drew up deck plans for it!
I had so many escort missions for this class when I played FASA. They are tough little birds that rarely needed help. Tried more than once to get one added to my little 4 ship fleet. But the game master always refused. Saying that adding a Chandley class to a fleet that already has 1 Loknar and 3 Larsons would be to overpowering. He may have been right. But would have been fun to play.
"Oh hell yeah" finally! Being former U.S. Cavalry, w/ near similar mission. Fleet Marines are go! I still believe a steamrunner class would be a better choice. Think about a steamrunner/ defiant composite, yes!😮😲😆👍👍
I think it would look cool if the "wings" were going upward, instead of downward. That would make it look like a Romulan Bird Of Prey! I also like the variant CR-3EDS for deep space exploration. I want one! ;-)
We don't know really until the Defiant in DS9 shows up. This ship is not canon but the design has been around since the 80's. Its possible that we'll see some combat-designed ships in ST Discovery when it comes out. FASA had a few combat oriented designs like this one and the Loknar class.
Krispy Kimson the defiant class was solely designed for combat. The vast majority of starfleet's Starships even the ones that were very combat effective, could easily be described as multi-role vessels.
FASA lore also had Klingon ships packing troops in greater density. They'd basically just feed them, stick them in cryotubes, thaw them out when needed for battle. Although Klingon cryo devices weren't completely safe. And Klingon transporters (faster and quieter, for tactical advantage) weren't completely safe. But 1% or 2% casualties to deploy twice as many troops twice as quickly was apparently an acceptable tradeoff to the Klingons.
I always hated that about Star Trek. All of this where peaceful explorers nonsense it's just annoying. Yes the Klingons and a federation or brokering a peace deal but the romulans the Kardashians the Ferengi and even groups like the Orion syndicate we're still a Potential Threat. there should be no reason for any organization under these circumstances to not have a combat ready Fleet comprised of ships that are armed to the teeth and crude by combat ready personnel. Furthermore there shouldn't be any families aboard Starships unless you are colonizing a planet.
I dislike many FASA designs, and this one was one of them. Seems like a ham-fisted attempt to make a Starfleet design swoopy and menacing. IMO, it just doesn't "work" From the elevation views, it seems too unbalanced as well.
My absolute favorite ship from FASA maybe of all time. Did a long campaign with this ship.
Extremely useful ship for being on the fringes of the galaxy and the addition of the Marines add an interesting role play elements.
This was my favourite ship in the FASA game.
Nice to see this. This is a favorite of mine from the FASA Federation Recognition
Manual.
Oh yeah, where's the rest of the "Military" then?
I was going to say the same thing. This ship has always been a favourite of mine.
Me and my brothers used to play the Star Trek FASA ship to ship game.
Massive battles, made all the better as we had the lead models fully painted.
One game stands out, I was federation, one brother was Romulan and the other Gorn.
My objective was to rescue the crew of a freighter, the Gorns had to steal plans, and the Romulans to stop me.
I had 2 Chandley Frigates, one with yellow marking and one with red.... 2 Loknars and 2 Larson's.
The Gorn had 4 of their flag ship vessels and the Romulans rode with 2 Winged Defenders, proper hard ships to beat, and 2 Romulan Bird of Prey.
The game lasted like 4 hours...... ship to ship combat, it had boarding as my brother had the crew personnel and ship boarding module.... and the tactics were so good, using control points to spread out across movement, shields, phasers etc.
I remember 1 Chandley got away and a crippled Loknar.
Wish people still played FASA as it pisses all over the table top games of today.
Would be great to see this ship in action in an animation against a Klingon outpost. Very nicely done! One of my favorites from the FASA era.
I’m so glad you kept the original FASA design
Thank you for these. I've always been a much bigger fan of FASA Trek than other versions.
I have been looking all over TH-cam for videos about federation ships like this. Please, keep it up.
I usually prefer Trek Yards...but this was the best video I found of the Chandley Class
I really enjoy these videos about the old FASA designs. I remember back in the day playing the Star Trek Combat Simulator, that this Chandley design was a favorite of mine because I loved the fact it had so many torpedoes that that they fired fore and aft. Good memories! Thank you. :)
I won many battles because of the great arcs of fire of that ship. 👍
Also part of the refit for research and exploration is a change in ship's replicators. They will no longer only produce rations designed to mimic crayons and tide pods.
But then what would the Marines eat?
One of Starfleet's greatest vessels! I love the Chandley, Northampton, Andor, Baker classes, of course the Constitution and Enterprise goes without saying. More more more! :) Thank you!
Nicely done. Another of my favorite ships. I wish someone had made deck plans for all of these ships.
Love all FASA ships! Great video…great models.
I enjoy watching your videos, they are the very few to show 360 degree angles. And not just some generic 2D view every one else does. My favourite is that you actually demonstrate detailed armaments location and type.
I remember the Chandler class. Very cool ship. Nice animated presentation. Well done!
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and executed and informatively explained in every way shape and form and detail possibly provided indeed, I myself have always liked this ship form the Fasa game as well and still own one of them from the game as well👌.
Great videos, I still have the combat sim, recognition manuals and most of the ships made by Fasa - so good to see them rendered on screen!
Great Video. I forgot about the aft torpedoes. Love to see this up against a Winged Defender.
I have in my-mind a fan-film fight between the two. But...technically I wouldn't be allowed to monetize such a project so I am not sure how to proceed.
Absolutely remember these ships and the models from the FASA days 😃
Nice to see the Marines living large.
austin1839 lol they get a 7x4 bunk instead of the standard 6x3 and extra cheese on nachos damn what a bonus huh! Still stuck with the type 4 phaser rifles while the bridge crew gets the new type 9 which they will never use. LoL
I like how the first model has torpedoes INSTEAD of a navigational deflector. Not to worry - Miranda and Oberth don't have deflector dishes, either.
Great video! I had to comeback and watch it again...
All the FASA ships were added into the PC game Star Fleet Command many years ago by modders and modellers, such as myself and others.
For those who don't know, Star Fleet Command is the computer RTC game of Star Fleet Battles. Usually known as SFC it is the reason why Star Trek Legacy was such a flop as player compared Legacy with the vastly superior SFC. There were also the lack of realism and "cheats" allowed in Legacy that made it suck to play.
FASA ships work very well when converted to fit into the SFB / SFC gaming system, especially Klingon vessels. FASA did miss out the Star Trek canon phaser banks on the D7 battlecruiser (seen firing in DS9) which SFB / SFC includes.
I generally have the FASA ships in my SFC armed with disruptors only and they still do OK.
I've modelled starship designs from various sources, including books, drawings, etc. some of which work, others have serious power issues when it comes to charging weapons. For example the New Hampshire Class medium cruiser (created from diagrams found online), based on the Miranda hull, carries 8 x mega turrets (PH4 in SFB / SFC) but lacks the power sources to charge them quickly and keep shield reinforcing, ECM, propulsion and standard phaser defences operational in the heat of battle. Looks impressive but doesn't work when put to the test.
Something that is often overlooked in Star Trek TV and movies is the need for literal boots on the deck, if you will. It's a running joke that the Red Shirts primary purpose is to die so the main actors can live, and there's a lot of truth to that. It's a rare episode or movie (though Enterprises' MACO was a step forward) that showed the Security personal in a solid light. That nearly every foe the Federation faces has dedicated combat persons (or are nearly all trained as warriors of some sort) it is insane that the Federation isn't better equipped to deal with them. While true large scale ground conflicts would be few and far in between there will always be a need for personal whose job is to hold, protect, or intrude on in force, other beings. FASA attempted to account for a wider, more diverse Star Fleet with the addition of such ships as this and the troop transports. While Gene truly wanted an enlightened, forward thinking Federation in his visions all we have to do is look at DS9 and the conflict with the Dominion to fully understand how unrealistic his visions were. We only have to look at our own history to understand that humanity is not ever likely to get past an inherent need to protect and defend itself (and occasionally, force it's whims on others). It's in our very nature.
Music and sound effects are a little loud relative to your voice.
Deleted my own comment about the same.
The voice barely audible and completely drowned under the music on my laptop, sounded a lot better on my desktop. The auto-generated subtitles don't cut it, lol.
Next to the Constitution/Enterprise class, this is my favorite class.
Being a Star Fleet Battles player, I'd like to say thanks for this video, but it's weird to see a commando ship with actual offense and frigates are on the small end of the spectrum unless you are playing ISC, Kzinti, or to a lesser extent Romulan and Gorn.
Its now uncommon for Western attack transports to be so well armed, but I think the inspiration for these ships are the US High Speed Transports of WWII (www.google.com/amp/s/thenavalist.com/home/2017/11/15/high-speed-transport-destroyers%3fformat=amp) ships that can deliver a company of commandos and be well armed enough not to need accompanying escorts.
"Frigates" in American naval tradition are usually smaller than destroyers. "Frigates" in Commonwealth naval tradition come in all sizes, usually between light destroyers and medium cruisers. The category also varies a lot historically.
"Frigates" in these FASA games are just very fast warships. Meaning they tend to have big powerful engines and they tend to be big powerful vessels (with strong armaments), mostly between cruisers and battleships.
Symphony 7, Movement II? Excellent choice, though the sound mixing leaves much to be desired, my friend.
This is without question my most favorite ship in any game
I LOVE THIS, the ACTUAL design, not that god awful refit crap other people have done.
Great work.
MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE SHIP! MAJOR KUDOS AND THANKS FOR UPLOADING THIS!!! When my best friend and i played the old Trek role playing game, this was the class ship we used. We had replaced the troops quarters with science labs and called our ship, U.S.S. Discovery. i even drew up deck plans for it!
Always loved this one
This should be in STO. With a console that gives a bonus to boarding craft. Something that is overlooked a lot in STO.
I had so many escort missions for this class when I played FASA. They are tough little birds that rarely needed help. Tried more than once to get one added to my little 4 ship fleet. But the game master always refused. Saying that adding a Chandley class to a fleet that already has 1 Loknar and 3 Larsons would be to overpowering. He may have been right. But would have been fun to play.
I remember this one too! Nice!
Nice redshift on the nacelle glows.
This "Un-balanced' crate of a ship pissed on a V-30 Winged Defender and walked away! Dripping with humiliation btw.
This looks VERy klingon!
"Oh hell yeah" finally! Being former U.S. Cavalry, w/ near similar mission. Fleet Marines are go! I still believe a steamrunner class would be a better choice. Think about a steamrunner/ defiant composite, yes!😮😲😆👍👍
Dang this is one sexy beast of a star ship...
I didn't think anyone remembered these ships!
That Beethoven piece was nicely used.
I think it would look cool if the "wings" were going upward, instead of downward. That would make it look like a Romulan Bird Of Prey!
I also like the variant CR-3EDS for deep space exploration. I want one! ;-)
Your models were “hella” more advanced than anyone 5 years ago.
Great to see this.
I wish the Northhampton got more love.
This ship sounds like it is too good.
would love to see more.
The ship's design screams "Romulan" to me with that huge winged frame and the shell chassis.
Romulans? More like Klingon to me especially D-7/Ktinga
This ship gives me gas.
What is the name of the music in the back?
What's the name of the piece playing in the background, thanks
I love these legacy ships
I wonder what poly it took to create that?
Wow. So this is what the MACOs could’ve become
hey wen i try to play this game i get transpicture.ocx error WHY ;(
Why would you remove two torpedo bays and add 1 for the Deep Space version? Seems that refit could be done smarter.
I heard the raves when this design came out.
Looks more like an early Romulan ships flying upside down lol 🙃
awsome!
what would marshall class be like?
The music is a tad too loud.
These videos are great, but the background music is too loud, it drowns out the vocals.
Apart from that massive black ship from into darkness, have Starfleet ever made any other ships created purely for combat?
We don't know really until the Defiant in DS9 shows up. This ship is not canon but the design has been around since the 80's. Its possible that we'll see some combat-designed ships in ST Discovery when it comes out. FASA had a few combat oriented designs like this one and the Loknar class.
Resurrected Starships alright thanks. I’ve been a Star Wars fan for a long time so I’m pretty new to this universe
This is an excellent video, keep it up. One thing, the background music needs to be in the background not so loud you can't hear the neration.
I played the FASA ST the RPG...there were several battleships...I suggest you look at that old material
Krispy Kimson the defiant class was solely designed for combat. The vast majority of starfleet's Starships even the ones that were very combat effective, could easily be described as multi-role vessels.
SO this ship can float
*Phasers fire*
JESUS FUCKING HOLY CHRIST
vorcha class carries 2500 warriors and the galaxy class can carry 5000 troops
FASA lore also had Klingon ships packing troops in greater density. They'd basically just feed them, stick them in cryotubes, thaw them out when needed for battle.
Although Klingon cryo devices weren't completely safe. And Klingon transporters (faster and quieter, for tactical advantage) weren't completely safe. But 1% or 2% casualties to deploy twice as many troops twice as quickly was apparently an acceptable tradeoff to the Klingons.
my favorite Fasa starship
always thought Starfleet should have a pure military wing
Music is to loud.
to me rpg seems like reasonable marines version of star trek
Cut the background music dude plz.
Loves me some Ludwig Van
Child of D-7 and Miranda/Connie
The music on several of these videos are too loud and distracting
YES YES YES YES
It needs a robar/torpedo pod
you’ll need a better sound effect for photon torpedoes
Uh no!
A federation bird of prey!
More like Federation D-7/Ktinga than bird of Prey
see The Problem With Shore Harbor Outfits
Not an actual starship class.
250 marines is not much of. Compliment
I always hated that about Star Trek. All of this where peaceful explorers nonsense it's just annoying. Yes the Klingons and a federation or brokering a peace deal but the romulans the Kardashians the Ferengi and even groups like the Orion syndicate we're still a Potential Threat. there should be no reason for any organization under these circumstances to not have a combat ready Fleet comprised of ships that are armed to the teeth and crude by combat ready personnel. Furthermore there shouldn't be any families aboard Starships unless you are colonizing a planet.
The Kardashians??? Hahaha!
BagoPorkRinds what is Jean-Luc Picard's favorite TV show?
Mike Vasquez Oh now I see what you did see there. 😀
Still....... there are four lights!
BagoPorkRinds only on the wall...The 5th light is in your mind😆 it's all good I'm sure someone taped Keeping Up with the Cardassians for him.
They're ALWAYS a threat.
Kill the music
P
I dislike many FASA designs, and this one was one of them. Seems like a ham-fisted attempt to make a Starfleet design swoopy and menacing. IMO, it just doesn't "work" From the elevation views, it seems too unbalanced as well.