*Historical holographic recording begins now. Romulus, Senate Chambers, circa unknown.* Civilian-in-Service: “The Romulan Senate is now in session, Praetor D’Deridex presiding. Addressee to the Council: Commander Renar T’Lon, of the Warbird S’Task.” The council falls silent, with the purple-robed Praetor gesturing slightly with his hand towards the officer at the entrance to the room. Then he speaks, his voice full and young, especially for one of his rank. D’Deridex: “Commander, I am told you bring the Senate gifts? Prizes from your recent excursion into the unknown planes of existence.” The Commander bows slightly and steps forward onto the map of the Neutral Zone that dominates the floor. T’Lon: “I do, your Excellency. It is certain to baffle even the wisest of our nation for some time.” The subtle wording does not go unnoticed by the Senate members, many of whom roll their eyes or sigh. The Praetor smiles in good humor. “You may address the council before your presentation, if that is your wish. I am certain we would all enjoy being enlightened by the words of a fine officer in our navy, and a master of a raptor, no less.” The Senate begins the shift around in their seats, attempting to get comfortable while the Commander begins the usual long-winded speech that will either be about his life and earn him a political position somewhere, or about his military career, which will garner him a promotion, or perhaps he will say something the Tal Shiar disapprove of and simply vanish the next morning. They don’t really care, and they’ve learned to tune it out, anyways. “I thank you, Praetor D’Deridex. Then I shall endeavor to illuminate this council without boring them.” Empty promises, most of them believed. “Eighteen months ago, my vessel encountered an unstable wormhole entrance, as it was prompted to seek out. Like the dozens before, we attempted to direct its stabilization and target a position on the far side of the Neutral Zone.” There was a stiffening from the audience. No story or speech? No, he was simply giving the report. What game was this? The senate became intrigued. “Like many before it, we projected the vector of the aperture’s exit to cross that of the enemy planet Earth, and so went through. When we emerged, we were left adrift, and attempted to possibly scan the area we’d been taken to. Our vector was correct. The distance and time, were not. After analyzing distant stars and galactic formations with our computer’s imaging sensors, we found we’d traveled to a galaxy that our conventional engines could never reach for sixty four billion years. Oddly enough, if we were to have travelled from our exit point to Earth, going perfectly straight and at maximum warp, we would have arrived the same day we left. It seems fate has an interesting humor, sending us back, a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away....” Some of the senate laughed at his joke, but others simply scowled. Yet more failures, they might be thinking. “However, we did not emerge alone. Our passive sensors detected a vessel was watching our exit, one which we had never seen the like of, except in one classified military report from Commander Keras.” The image of the Chimaera appears on a holographic projection above the commander’s head. “Three hundred and one thousand standard meters in length, with a mass that is nigh-unattainable for us to put into standard motion. And yet, this was alone, in the middle of empty space, with thousands of black holes within our scanning range, but not one stellar group. Notice too, it has no nacelles, embedded or otherwise. This warship could have torn us asunder, and laid siege to the entire Star Empire on its own! Yet... it did not. Instead, it simply waited, and watched. So we waited, and watched it as well. My engineering tactician, who could not be here with me today, tells me that their armor alone could withstand conventional weaponry better than some shields, and that their shields are unlike any we’ve seen before. Like great Federation deflectors, but unfocused and around the entire ship. Physical weapons would be literally bounced off the ship’s signature, and energy dispersed. Our newest and deadly plasma cannon would be worthless against even the smallest ship using it!” Now there were hints of fear and interest. The Praetor himself was watching closely now. “I would not stand such a threat to conquer my home. I love my people, my nation, and my home planet. I have since I was a boy, waiting tables at my grandmother’s restaurant, and at the military academy where the commandant told me on graduation day: ‘T’Lon, if ever you rise to the rank of commander, and hold more power than a freighter or barge, truly the empire has come to its darkest hour.’ And I tell you plainly, he was correct. Not for why we have come to this darkest hour, but when. I downloaded as many unencrypted files from the enemy vessel as I could, and not I possess star charts and basic history for the entirety of their own Empire. This, Galactic Empire, holds territory across its entire galaxy, and moves with speed across it that dwarfs even the fastest Federation vessel by millions of times! They can build ships the size of stations we only make with the most optimal circumstances, and they have weapons powerful enough to turn planetary surfaces to molten glass within moments! If we were to gain even a tenth of that knowledge, our tactical advantages would grow untold. But while the wormhole that leads there is still stable, I fear for what may come through before or after we attempt to cross again. While we did manage to beam off a few minor pieces of technology in areas that were not fully shielded, they are largely useless. A small hand-weapon, armor of a biped, a robotic box that whistles, and a bipedal android that seems to speak their languages. But the information we retrieved is the true prize. We discovered, that of the hundreds of thousands of crew, soldiers, and officers aboard that ship, only one was an unidentified alien. The rest, were humans.” Shock, horror, and anger move throughout the senate, and one woman even pounds her fist against the table in rage. “Yes, my lords and ladies of the senate. Humans pervade that entire empire, crushing all those alien to them, and yet thriving like the virus they are. Their lust for power, territory, and resources knows no bounds, and they will strike through to our side soon, make no mistake. I do not know what the council will do with my gifts, and I care little either way. I am a soldier of the empire, and I am headed back into that galaxy. I will gather the knowledge and technology to arm our people against this foe, and then build us a fleet in your name, Praetor. One that will not simply defend against the Galactic Empire, but one that will strike fear into the hearts of the Federation, and the Klingons alike. When we show the Galactic Empire we cannot be taken and assimilated, we will instead take foot-hold in their territory and strike down their powerful as we have for other nations of misguided. While one wing covers the Alpha Quadrant, another will spread to cover the distant past galaxy. I know not if other ships will join me, and it may be that the wormholes will close and cut us off from that point forever, but I will not be dissuaded from my actions! The raptor does not defend or cower, but attacks from the unknown above, and evades the strikes of lesser beings. Will I be alone in emulating our patron beast?!” Silence followed the question, but the Praetor did not remain still. He stood, and opened his arms wide. “No, you will not be alone. The Gallant Wings and some of our other ships are nearing time for refit and retirement. Yet how can we squander such tools in such a desperate time? A fleet of sixteen ships shall be assembled at the Imperial Shipyards above Hobus IV, and when they are finished with their repairs and refits, they shall follow you into this other galaxy. Cloaked, you shall seek out the technology and information you say is our key to victory, and then return here again with your second prizes. Is there any dissent?” The senate did not shift. They were unanimous. “Then I move that we place this delicate action under the direction of someone who has experience in these matters. I move that the command of the task force be to Admiral T’Lon.” The vote, was again: unanimous. *Recording ends.* *Play next file?* *Y/N*
@@SchneeflockeMonsoon You seem to have a good handle on being Romulan. Have you read any of the Diane Duane novels where she covers the Rihansu? I think I am overdue for a re-read of those. ;) Perhaps seeing an ISD is was caused the Romulans to aspire to build the Mighty D'Deridex class Warbirds?
The Rebel Alliance's best tactic was stealth hit and runs. The Empire vs The Romulans? Romulans take it, Id say. The Empire may have numbers, but they'll never see the Romulans coming...
Star Trek technology generally grants warships vastly more accurate weapons systems, sophisticated sensors, more advanced computers and much more efficient energy distribution systems. But, all of that is offset by slower maximum speeds, more fragile hull materials and less efficient defensive shielding. The franchise from TNG forward liked to focus on a cutting-edge appearance for their technology, having most of the Alpha Quadrant powers utilize advanced prototype systems in order to grant them as much of an edge as possible. Star Wars technology tends to be along the more "future retro" vein. Their ships are less energy efficient, tend to utilize less sophisticated computer systems and sensors, plus recycling/waste disposal isn't any more advanced than we have right now. However they make up for this with much more powerful (if less accurate) weapons systems, the ability to harness and store more energy at once (Star Destroyers are a great example; their fusion core is basically a miniature sun) and their vessels can cover a lot more distance at faster-than-light speeds. Plus they can take one Hell of a beating in combat. Personally, I say pick your poison. Combat vessels and fleets in both franchises have their pros and cons.
@@sagesheahan6732 I'd have to agree with your assessment. The Galactic Empire might be too much for the Federation and Starfleet, but not the Romulan Star Empire at it's peak during the TOS and TNG eras. The Romulans are simply too smart to be defeated by brute force, alone.
Wait a minute.. Why did the Romulan Crew call that Bird of Prey the Praetors Finest and Proudest Flagship? That implies that Bird of Prey was the Best ship the Romulans had.
@@SchneeflockeMonsoon I think the Crew of a ship would know if the ship they serve on is out Classed by another ship. People who serve on a Destroyer know Aircraft Carriers exist.
@@s.31.l50 They said "Flagship" though.. Not just "Finest and Proudest." The best ship in a fleet is the Flagship, not just the ship that's seen the most action. Not a bad guess though.
I wish TNG/DS9/Voyager era Trek was still around. I'd love for the Romulans to bring a modern version of their older style ships back after seeing how effective the smaller Dominion fighters were vs larger ships.
I believe the standard Romulan designation is 'Warbird'. The 'Bird of Prey' designation was for the smaller scout ship that the Klingons would purchase, and go on to make so famous.
Oh stars I absolutely loved this video, and your design for the Gallant Wing! 😁 But I think the best part of the video for me was seeing it named the S'task, and a picture of Empress Ael with the Sword of S'task! Diane Diane's "Swordhunt" novels are my goto headcannon for the Romulans! 😁🖖👏 Excellent work! 👍
The Enterprise still out guns this. 18 Phaser Banks (20 on the Discovery version) with full 360 degree firing arc, plus forward and aft Photon Torpedo launchers. The refit version only seems to have 2 forward Torpedo launchers for some reason. The V6 Gallant has 6 Disruptor banks vs the 18 Phaser Banks of the Enterprise, but that Lethal Plasma Torpedo is a huge problem. The Romulans either stoped using those Plasma Torpedos after Balance Of Terror, or the Enterprise Shields got one hell of an upgrade. As in the Deadly Years the Enterprise Shields tanked a bunch of Torpedos from Romulan Bird Of Preys.
MrHoppers002 Well at the time the Enterprise along with it’s sister ships, were the most powerful ships in starfleet. Outguns a Klingon Bird Of Prey 10 to 1 and also outguns the D7 Battlecruiser according to the blueprints I found for them. 8 disruptor banks, 1 forward and 1 aft torpedo bay.
Thrawn assessment of the situation: 1) Finally! a Yuuzhan Vong vessel. 2) of course not excluding the first option: This could be a completely new design of the Rebel vessel.
I’m of a certain age where I had and played the Star Trek 2 Starship Combat Simulator and I alway thought the Gallant Wing as well as the Winged Defender were very cool looking ships, complementing the Bird Of Prey nicely. Was very surprised by and very much enjoyed the Thrawn v Romulans story. Very well thought out and nicely delivered.
In the episode Balance of Terror the Romulan ship was referred to by the centurion as "The Praetor's finest and proudest flagship." Which does suggest that, at the time it was the best example of fighting vessel the Romulans employed.
The Empire would have a particularly hard time fighting the Romulans. While cloaking technology does exist in the Star Wars universe, it's extremely rare and not seen in anything larger than a corvette. A capital grade warship with a cloak is unheard of and would take any Star Destroyer by surprise the first time. And even once the Empire knew what they were up against they would be very hard to fight. If Star Fleet sensors have a hard time detecting a Romulan cloak then Imperial sensors would stand no chance of spotting them until it's too late, striking them in their weak spots before quickly fading
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The Bird of Prey seemed to be more of a scout ship than a full on warship. From what I have read over the years this particular plasma torpedo used in Balance of terror was experimental and only fitted to that 1 ship. It was powerful but required tremendous amounts of power to be fired. Which handicapped the BOP somewhat. When the ship was destroyed the Romulans decided not to continue using the weapon and fitted their ships with standard torpedo's.
Absolutely loved the tease! Wonderful job. I just happened to stumble on your channel with the Enterprise comparisons, saw this video, and knew it was enough for me to subscribe. Impressive.
War-bird -sub light with a torpedo launcher , War Eagle - an upgraded modernized War-bird hull , with warp engines in the wing pods, 1 torpedo launcher 4 phasers per Star Fleet Battles , Task Force Games
Always loved the idea that the one from the show was just an old ship refitted to test the weapons systems. Kinda like "mules" in car production, where old cars are modified or even hollowed out to test new engines and other tech for future models.
A horizontal warp core is not all that strange so the arrangement shown in the video is quite reasonable. For example, according to Jefferies the TOS Enterprise had one that was transverse mounted between the nacelle struts and ran under the floor of the warp engineering rooms seen on the show (the same set represented three different engineering spaces, the port and starboard warp rooms just forward of the shuttlebay, and the impulse engineering room at the back of the saucer, which is why it looks so radically different in various episodes). And they actually show the horizontal warp core in an episode of TAS. It wasn't until the refit that the Enterprise started using the relatively new vertical warp core design. I am not convinced about the fusion plasma power though, not only is there is no way it would produce enough power, the dialog actually mentioned the torpedo being antimatter based plasma, not a fusion product. Also, Scotty found no sign of a conventional warp drive system in the Romulan ship in Balance of Terror, just simple impulse even though its presence was impossible without an FTL drive of some sort due to the distances involved. That is one of the main things the singularity system was thought up to explain, and works if they used some sort of gravity based FTL system that was not as efficient as warp drive until they got warp technology from the Klingons. The original warbird in that episode seems to have been something like a real world monitor, a rather slow ship built around a single dreadnaught level weapon meant for shore bombardment rather than ship-to-ship combat since they apparently carried no weapons except for that massively powerful torpedo system and its nuclear self-destruction charges.
Except you've forgotten the part in the episode when the Romulan warrior exclaimed to the Romulan commander, The Praetor's finest ship beaten! How commander?! That's Star Trek Canon.
The other glaring problem with the Romulan plasma weapon is that it can only travel in a straight line at warp speed. Once Star Fleet learned that tactical disadvantage, it became useless against any ship that could out maneuver the bolt once it was fired. It was very effective against stationary targets like space stations, but eventually it was pretty useless against other starships in battle except for possibly a coup de grace and at that point it would just be a waste of massive amounts of energy.
I keep wanting to do ship videos about my own universe ships, but you keep raising the bar of how these things should be done and I can't keep up. :) Nicely done sir. ...Though any analysis that suggests the Gallant is the best the Romulans had, clearly ignores the gorgeous killy death machine that is the Winged Defender.
I have a question. Can deflectors stop transporter beams? I feel like they would be ineffective, in SW we usually see things passing through deflector shields unhampered, so there wouldn’t be anything stopping the Romulans from pulling a Stargate Atlantis and just beaming a nuke(most likely a plasma torpedo) aboard a Star Destroyer and utterly dominating the Empire. The only major advantage the Empire possesses is FTL, hyperdrives are just ridiculous and that would be the first thing the Romulans would rectify + combining hyperdrives with warp drives would give the Romulans unprecedented mobility, overcoming the reliance on hyperlanes and complex navigation by giving them the possibility of overcoming obstacles at warp. Getting a hyperdrive should be trivial for the Romulans, just beam it out of a ship or beam the crew out, whatever comes first.
I believe that Star Wars shields are likely strong enough to dampen transporters...IF they are up. However we do not normally see that tactic you describe used even in Star Trek when both ship's shields are down leading me to believe there may be some lower level dampening field to prevent hostile transporters during combat; as an aside even without this perhaps it takes some skill to transport to a ship that may be moving any which way in combat or emitting various forms of radiation.
Interestingly, one of the original scripts for this video had the Gallant Wing beaming OFF several bits of the Star Destroyer’s loose tech., which would help to balance that advantage later on, as Thrawn would begin his Defence by finding a way to prevent that from working.
Starwars hyperdrives aren't actually that good in my opinion. They're designed about the hyperlanes and are considerably less effective when you move off those if the maps are anything to go by. Modern movies both Trek and Wars seem happy to ignore travel time in favour of blowing things up. Anyway I imagine on the hyperspace lanes starwars would have a speed advantage but off them the Trek ships would have the advantage because their speed can be applied anywhere.
If they're in range to use ion canons; which have a maximum range of 0.8 km, the Romulans are easily in range to kill them with a single shot; so they better activate their defenses post-haste, or they mayn't get a second chance therein- as fits the tactics of the Rihannsu perfectly well indeed!
We saw Thrawn bombard Chopper base with three ISDs. Judging by the damage they did (they scorched an area a few hundred meters across), all three of them would have gotten smoked by a single standard Bird of Prey - Outpost 4 was a mile deep on an asteroid, and two shots obliterated the entire asteroid and the base with it.
@@brianmason2378 Oh yes - I think I should maybe make a 2nd video about that ship as the first might not do it justice...perhaps a battle or story? I'm not sure...a what if scenario maybe.
I’m not entirely sure, but at the rate of Romulan technical advancement and Imperial technical advancement, I’m afraid the Emperor’s deflector shield will not be operational for long after Those That Fly Beneath The Raptor’s Wings arrive.
Stopped at 1:22, just after the suggestion that maybe the Romulans weren’t sending their best tech, and maybe by implication, their best people-but Mark Leonard’s Romulan Commander, Leonard played him with the confidence of Captain Marko Ramius, from _The Hunt for Red October,_ novel and movie….in other words, Leonard played _The Man!_ And I don’t think any fleet picking on their prime opponent would give _The Man_ subpar stuff!
Yeah i stopped there too. Says right in the show, that is the best the Romulans have. And its sub sub par. Good for sneaking up on stationary rocks and thats it Its got one good weapon, that can be detonated by phasers supposedly...and a cloak thats kinda shitty.
Wait, so does that mean that the Galactic Empire are (alittle bit) afraid of the Romulan Empire? So much for my hopes of a Galactic/Romulan Empire alliance.
I am super impressed by how thorough, detailed, and interesting both the model, and the narration are. Thanks for putting this together. Edit : I just realized I didn't subscribe. That is now fixed.
Do a TH-cam search for ROMULAN THEME or ROMULAN THEME MUSIC The classic Romulan music theme (from TOS) is in a 58 second video. There are also some good TNG Romulan themes in other videos. If you want all of the music from "The Balance of Terror", do a TH-cam search for BALANCE OF TERROR THEME There is a video with all the music from "The Balance of Terror". The video is 18 minutes and 6 seconds long.
That poor ISD would have to jump to hyperspace before the Romulans turned into scrap. How do you use lasers against a ship making Warp Speed drive by attacks? The Imperials would have no idea where the next attack would be coming from until the Disruptor Bolts and Plasma Torpedoes started blowing huge chunks out of the hull. While Hyperspace travel might temporarily give the Empire a strategic mobility advantage (the Romulans would certainly be able to reverse engineer the hyperspace drives and get maps of the hyperspace lanes) there is only so far you can run before you have to turn and fight. It would be like the German High Seas Fleet of WWI trying to go toe to toe with a large number of modern SSNs.
The V-8 uses Federation technology. You can tell this because it's the color grey. The Romulans had to steal the technology for grey paint from the Federation.
The galactic empire's forces would be *woefully* outmatched by these guys if any full-scale war were to erupt, just judging from the ranges of the guns in question, and the lethality involved.
That doesn't say that much. Officers who take pride in the vessel they serve on aren't necessarily objective and therefore unreliable narrators. They may consider their ship the praeotor's finest, but that doesn't mean the praetor thinks so, too. Besides: Sending a ship against an unknown enemy to gauge their strength does carry the risk to lose that ship. Telling the crew they and their finest in the fleet - even though they chose were because that's exactly what their ship is not - is a cheap way raise the morale of that crew so their performance doesn't suffer from the expression of being expendable.
@@MrAranton i think you are extrapolating far to much there with no basis. Career officers have pride but are professional and would never refer to their vessel as the finest unless it had at least some factual basis. If you watch the episode with the new weapon and cloak plus highly experienced commander it's clear that this is a top of the line ship. Also in "the enterprise incident" the romulans start using klingon designs as their own were inferior in terms of warp etc. Good concept and video but ultimately This ship was conceived in a game decades after the fact. It just doesn't fit...
@@mickmerr Pointing out that not all narrators are reliable isn't that much of an extrapolation. It's something you should always keep in mind. Plus: There's a lot of room for subjectivity in the term "fine". Scotty is a career officer, and he says plenty of deragatory things about ships that are not the Enterprise to justify why "his" ship is the finest in the fleet. Which during the movie era includes Excelsior, which is clearly the more advanced vessel and much mor worthy of the title "the Federation's finest" than Enterprise (both NCC-1701 and NCC-1701-A) at this point. Also: What is Enterprise doing in Wrath of Khan before they respond to the emergency call from Regula station? A training cruise with shipload of cadets. What are Starfleet's plans for Enterprise in "The Search for Spock?" Not to repair the damage the ship sustained fighting Khan and to decomission it. Which indicates: Starfleet Command does not think Enterprise is their finest ship. If they thought so, they wouldn't use Enterprise for training cruises or decomission her because it took some damage. So much for the objectivity of the career officer Montgomery Scott...
@@MrAranton 1. Scotty isn't a Romulan. 2. The Praetor isn't an officer: he's literally next to the Emperor. The "Praetor's pride" gets decided by the Praetor.
Well done, RS! I'm not a fan of mixing universes like that (Star Trek already has enough inconsistencies without having to force its bulkheads to weather those kinds of waves!), I really enjoyed Thrawn looking over the V6 and masterfully surmising its nature.
A slaughter? The Romulans can fire from far, far outside the Star Destroyer's range and cloak before TIEs could even get close. Remember, just two Plasma Torpedoes from the TOS era could pulverize shielded, 2-mile diameter asteroids of nearly solid iron (objects at minimum, twice as large as a Star Destroyer and far more dense). These torpedoes could also travel at warp speed. Star Destroyers, with all their turbolasers, cannot match this kind of firepower or speed.
Can the Force BE with anything that doesn't have midi-chlorians? The Romulans don't have them. Nothing in the Trek Milky Way Galaxy does that we know of.
The original warbird was not destroyed by the Enterprise, it was destroyed by its own captain after being severely damaged by the Enterprise and after refusing Kirk's offer to beam over survivors. The distinction between being destroyed by the Enterprise and destroyed by its own crew was important in the show, because it contrasted Romulan values to Federation values, and as such is not a minor gripe.
Is it gonna be a followup to the story plus I like to see a story with the rebels meeting some far off alien inVader's good or bad Coming up with someone from either mass effect More Or heck they could meet the crew of the USS ceritos
I thought the commander or the second in command said something about how could the empires flag ship be beaten by the Federation ? So why would the empires flag ship be what your saying ?
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I have an suggestion for a video . Andrew Probert’s enterprise c concept.😁
@@kingdomofvinland8827 Probert was the best starship designer of the franchise!
THAT WAS FUCKING AWESOME!!!!! are we getting a Thrawn vs The Romulans Story???? IF YES I WILL IMMEDIATLY SUB ON PATREON!
Great Now I want to hear thrawn's break down.. on other ST ships. is there a way to read the other Thrawn break downs?
LOL Thrawn was preparing for a threat - many thought that was the Yuzhon Vong... turns out it was the Rihannsu
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And that was proper ST-SW comparison. Thanks, and good job.
*Historical holographic recording begins now. Romulus, Senate Chambers, circa unknown.*
Civilian-in-Service: “The Romulan Senate is now in session, Praetor D’Deridex presiding. Addressee to the Council: Commander Renar T’Lon, of the Warbird S’Task.”
The council falls silent, with the purple-robed Praetor gesturing slightly with his hand towards the officer at the entrance to the room. Then he speaks, his voice full and young, especially for one of his rank.
D’Deridex: “Commander, I am told you bring the Senate gifts? Prizes from your recent excursion into the unknown planes of existence.”
The Commander bows slightly and steps forward onto the map of the Neutral Zone that dominates the floor.
T’Lon: “I do, your Excellency. It is certain to baffle even the wisest of our nation for some time.”
The subtle wording does not go unnoticed by the Senate members, many of whom roll their eyes or sigh. The Praetor smiles in good humor.
“You may address the council before your presentation, if that is your wish. I am certain we would all enjoy being enlightened by the words of a fine officer in our navy, and a master of a raptor, no less.”
The Senate begins the shift around in their seats, attempting to get comfortable while the Commander begins the usual long-winded speech that will either be about his life and earn him a political position somewhere, or about his military career, which will garner him a promotion, or perhaps he will say something the Tal Shiar disapprove of and simply vanish the next morning. They don’t really care, and they’ve learned to tune it out, anyways.
“I thank you, Praetor D’Deridex. Then I shall endeavor to illuminate this council without boring them.”
Empty promises, most of them believed.
“Eighteen months ago, my vessel encountered an unstable wormhole entrance, as it was prompted to seek out. Like the dozens before, we attempted to direct its stabilization and target a position on the far side of the Neutral Zone.”
There was a stiffening from the audience. No story or speech? No, he was simply giving the report. What game was this? The senate became intrigued.
“Like many before it, we projected the vector of the aperture’s exit to cross that of the enemy planet Earth, and so went through. When we emerged, we were left adrift, and attempted to possibly scan the area we’d been taken to. Our vector was correct. The distance and time, were not. After analyzing distant stars and galactic formations with our computer’s imaging sensors, we found we’d traveled to a galaxy that our conventional engines could never reach for sixty four billion years. Oddly enough, if we were to have travelled from our exit point to Earth, going perfectly straight and at maximum warp, we would have arrived the same day we left. It seems fate has an interesting humor, sending us back, a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away....”
Some of the senate laughed at his joke, but others simply scowled. Yet more failures, they might be thinking.
“However, we did not emerge alone. Our passive sensors detected a vessel was watching our exit, one which we had never seen the like of, except in one classified military report from Commander Keras.”
The image of the Chimaera appears on a holographic projection above the commander’s head.
“Three hundred and one thousand standard meters in length, with a mass that is nigh-unattainable for us to put into standard motion. And yet, this was alone, in the middle of empty space, with thousands of black holes within our scanning range, but not one stellar group. Notice too, it has no nacelles, embedded or otherwise. This warship could have torn us asunder, and laid siege to the entire Star Empire on its own!
Yet... it did not. Instead, it simply waited, and watched. So we waited, and watched it as well. My engineering tactician, who could not be here with me today, tells me that their armor alone could withstand conventional weaponry better than some shields, and that their shields are unlike any we’ve seen before. Like great Federation deflectors, but unfocused and around the entire ship. Physical weapons would be literally bounced off the ship’s signature, and energy dispersed. Our newest and deadly plasma cannon would be worthless against even the smallest ship using it!”
Now there were hints of fear and interest. The Praetor himself was watching closely now.
“I would not stand such a threat to conquer my home. I love my people, my nation, and my home planet. I have since I was a boy, waiting tables at my grandmother’s restaurant, and at the military academy where the commandant told me on graduation day: ‘T’Lon, if ever you rise to the rank of commander, and hold more power than a freighter or barge, truly the empire has come to its darkest hour.’ And I tell you plainly, he was correct. Not for why we have come to this darkest hour, but when. I downloaded as many unencrypted files from the enemy vessel as I could, and not I possess star charts and basic history for the entirety of their own Empire. This, Galactic Empire, holds territory across its entire galaxy, and moves with speed across it that dwarfs even the fastest Federation vessel by millions of times! They can build ships the size of stations we only make with the most optimal circumstances, and they have weapons powerful enough to turn planetary surfaces to molten glass within moments! If we were to gain even a tenth of that knowledge, our tactical advantages would grow untold. But while the wormhole that leads there is still stable, I fear for what may come through before or after we attempt to cross again. While we did manage to beam off a few minor pieces of technology in areas that were not fully shielded, they are largely useless. A small hand-weapon, armor of a biped, a robotic box that whistles, and a bipedal android that seems to speak their languages. But the information we retrieved is the true prize. We discovered, that of the hundreds of thousands of crew, soldiers, and officers aboard that ship, only one was an unidentified alien. The rest, were humans.”
Shock, horror, and anger move throughout the senate, and one woman even pounds her fist against the table in rage.
“Yes, my lords and ladies of the senate. Humans pervade that entire empire, crushing all those alien to them, and yet thriving like the virus they are. Their lust for power, territory, and resources knows no bounds, and they will strike through to our side soon, make no mistake.
I do not know what the council will do with my gifts, and I care little either way. I am a soldier of the empire, and I am headed back into that galaxy. I will gather the knowledge and technology to arm our people against this foe, and then build us a fleet in your name, Praetor. One that will not simply defend against the Galactic Empire, but one that will strike fear into the hearts of the Federation, and the Klingons alike. When we show the Galactic Empire we cannot be taken and assimilated, we will instead take foot-hold in their territory and strike down their powerful as we have for other nations of misguided. While one wing covers the Alpha Quadrant, another will spread to cover the distant past galaxy. I know not if other ships will join me, and it may be that the wormholes will close and cut us off from that point forever, but I will not be dissuaded from my actions! The raptor does not defend or cower, but attacks from the unknown above, and evades the strikes of lesser beings. Will I be alone in emulating our patron beast?!”
Silence followed the question, but the Praetor did not remain still. He stood, and opened his arms wide.
“No, you will not be alone. The Gallant Wings and some of our other ships are nearing time for refit and retirement. Yet how can we squander such tools in such a desperate time? A fleet of sixteen ships shall be assembled at the Imperial Shipyards above Hobus IV, and when they are finished with their repairs and refits, they shall follow you into this other galaxy. Cloaked, you shall seek out the technology and information you say is our key to victory, and then return here again with your second prizes. Is there any dissent?”
The senate did not shift. They were unanimous.
“Then I move that we place this delicate action under the direction of someone who has experience in these matters. I move that the command of the task force be to Admiral T’Lon.”
The vote, was again: unanimous.
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You thought this would be more Thrawn dialogue, but it was actually Me: ROMULAN DIALOGUE!
@@SchneeflockeMonsoon You seem to have a good handle on being Romulan. Have you read any of the Diane Duane novels where she covers the Rihansu? I think I am overdue for a re-read of those. ;) Perhaps seeing an ISD is was caused the Romulans to aspire to build the Mighty D'Deridex class Warbirds?
Resurrected Starships
My thoughts precisely.
D'DERIDEX Is literally the ISD of Star Trek. This is a perfect crossover! PLEASE POST THIS ON A FANFICTION WEBSITE!!
@@resurrectedstarships IMAGINE FOR A MOMENT THE TERRAN EMPIRE IS ACTUALLY THE GALACTIC EMPIRE 😎.
Yes, bring on the Romulan and Galactic Empire showdown!
The Rebel Alliance's best tactic was stealth hit and runs.
The Empire vs The Romulans?
Romulans take it, Id say. The Empire may have numbers, but they'll never see the Romulans coming...
@MrHoppers002 that's cute considering SW runs inthe triple digit gigatons firepower range.
Star Trek technology generally grants warships vastly more accurate weapons systems, sophisticated sensors, more advanced computers and much more efficient energy distribution systems. But, all of that is offset by slower maximum speeds, more fragile hull materials and less efficient defensive shielding. The franchise from TNG forward liked to focus on a cutting-edge appearance for their technology, having most of the Alpha Quadrant powers utilize advanced prototype systems in order to grant them as much of an edge as possible.
Star Wars technology tends to be along the more "future retro" vein. Their ships are less energy efficient, tend to utilize less sophisticated computer systems and sensors, plus recycling/waste disposal isn't any more advanced than we have right now. However they make up for this with much more powerful (if less accurate) weapons systems, the ability to harness and store more energy at once (Star Destroyers are a great example; their fusion core is basically a miniature sun) and their vessels can cover a lot more distance at faster-than-light speeds. Plus they can take one Hell of a beating in combat.
Personally, I say pick your poison. Combat vessels and fleets in both franchises have their pros and cons.
@MrHoppers002 I'd think more along the lines of a luxury SUV or a military grade Humvee, but yeah, same basic principle.
@@sagesheahan6732 I'd have to agree with your assessment. The Galactic Empire might be too much for the Federation and Starfleet, but not the Romulan Star Empire at it's peak during the TOS and TNG eras. The Romulans are simply too smart to be defeated by brute force, alone.
Proud and Arrogant Romulans are the Perfect Foil to Thrawn's cool and collected manner!
wrong universe but i would love to see that
@@alexmcaruthur6966 it would be the perfect SHADOW WAR😎
Wait a minute.. Why did the Romulan Crew call that Bird of Prey the Praetors Finest and Proudest Flagship? That implies that Bird of Prey was the Best ship the Romulans had.
Maybe it’s the ship that’s seen most action. We know the Centurion has like 100+ previous campaigns
because at the time it was. The V-6 was released a few years later.
They tell all their crews that.
@@SchneeflockeMonsoon I think the Crew of a ship would know if the ship they serve on is out Classed by another ship. People who serve on a Destroyer know Aircraft Carriers exist.
@@s.31.l50 They said "Flagship" though.. Not just "Finest and Proudest." The best ship in a fleet is the Flagship, not just the ship that's seen the most action. Not a bad guess though.
I wish TNG/DS9/Voyager era Trek was still around. I'd love for the Romulans to bring a modern version of their older style ships back after seeing how effective the smaller Dominion fighters were vs larger ships.
I really feel like your models are improving a lot.
I think so too when I look at older work. I don't think its about poly-count or complexity, but a myriad of sublime things. Thank you!
Your Thrawn impression... is impressive.
Most Impressive...
Information about Obscure Sci-Fi ships and more Star Wars/Trek crossover material, I love this channel, keep up the good work man. ^^
that was amazing The Voice work was perfect I loved every minute of that keep up the good work!
I would have loved to see this ship in action on DS9.
I believe the standard Romulan designation is 'Warbird'. The 'Bird of Prey' designation was for the smaller scout ship that the Klingons would purchase, and go on to make so famous.
Because a ship is more powerful that does not guarantee victory.
Star trek is peppered with episodes like that.
Oh stars I absolutely loved this video, and your design for the Gallant Wing! 😁
But I think the best part of the video for me was seeing it named the S'task, and a picture of Empress Ael with the Sword of S'task!
Diane Diane's "Swordhunt" novels are my goto headcannon for the Romulans! 😁🖖👏
Excellent work! 👍
For anyone wanting to continue the story of this ship and Thrawn, search “Wings of the Empire”. Fanfiction. Net should have something for you.
Schneeflocke Monsoon I look forward to reading it!
The Enterprise still out guns this. 18 Phaser Banks (20 on the Discovery version) with full 360 degree firing arc, plus forward and aft Photon Torpedo launchers. The refit version only seems to have 2 forward Torpedo launchers for some reason. The V6 Gallant has 6 Disruptor banks vs the 18 Phaser Banks of the Enterprise, but that Lethal Plasma Torpedo is a huge problem. The Romulans either stoped using those Plasma Torpedos after Balance Of Terror, or the Enterprise Shields got one hell of an upgrade. As in the Deadly Years the Enterprise Shields tanked a bunch of Torpedos from Romulan Bird Of Preys.
MrHoppers002 Well at the time the Enterprise along with it’s sister ships, were the most powerful ships in starfleet. Outguns a Klingon Bird Of Prey 10 to 1 and also outguns the D7 Battlecruiser according to the blueprints I found for them. 8 disruptor banks, 1 forward and 1 aft torpedo bay.
I have missed your Thrawn short stories so much.
Nice foil using an Empire Destroyer to examine the warbird.
Thrawn assessment of the situation: 1) Finally! a Yuuzhan Vong vessel. 2) of course not excluding the first option: This could be a completely new design of the Rebel vessel.
I’m of a certain age where I had and played the Star Trek 2 Starship Combat Simulator and I alway thought the Gallant Wing as well as the Winged Defender were very cool looking ships, complementing the Bird Of Prey nicely.
Was very surprised by and very much enjoyed the Thrawn v Romulans story. Very well thought out and nicely delivered.
In the episode Balance of Terror the Romulan ship was referred to by the centurion as "The Praetor's finest and proudest flagship." Which does suggest that, at the time it was the best example of fighting vessel the Romulans employed.
Or he was simply told to say that.
Recognised it and identified it immediately. Loved the look of this one. The Whitewind was really nice, too.
Now I want a Thraen assessment of all the major powers from FASA!
lol yeah he's really perceptive wit a foresight that brings him a high level understanding of implications and consequences 🧠
I remember this ship from the old FASA system. One of my favourite Romulan ships.
The Empire would have a particularly hard time fighting the Romulans. While cloaking technology does exist in the Star Wars universe, it's extremely rare and not seen in anything larger than a corvette. A capital grade warship with a cloak is unheard of and would take any Star Destroyer by surprise the first time. And even once the Empire knew what they were up against they would be very hard to fight. If Star Fleet sensors have a hard time detecting a Romulan cloak then Imperial sensors would stand no chance of spotting them until it's too late, striking them in their weak spots before quickly fading
Guess now we know what the Romulans were up to during their absence from galactic affairs mentioned when they reappeared during the TNG era.
@A dudes thoughts especially in Star Trek Picard, I think someone saw the pointy ears and thought they were writing for Lord of the rings.
@A dudes thoughts It's Common in most series to DePower and another race whose Fans out number the Human caste, they bring em In to wipe the flow in someway to reduce its fan base....Don't Believe me, watch how Bobba Fett gets D
efanged in Mandolarians for the main actor in the coming Season 2.
The Bird of Prey seemed to be more of a scout ship than a full on warship. From what I have read over the years this particular plasma torpedo used in Balance of terror was experimental and only fitted to that 1 ship. It was powerful but required tremendous amounts of power to be fired. Which handicapped the BOP somewhat. When the ship was destroyed the Romulans decided not to continue using the weapon and fitted their ships with standard torpedo's.
That Romulan Star Empire vs The Empire short was great PLEASE GIVE US MORE.
And due to various miscommunications Thrawns concerns about the Romulans were attributed to the Vong.
Nicely done! I liked the Thrawn scene in particular- the artwork bit and reasoning similar to Kirk's was a very nice touch!
Absolutely loved the tease! Wonderful job. I just happened to stumble on your channel with the Enterprise comparisons, saw this video, and knew it was enough for me to subscribe. Impressive.
Sweet video
Dude, have to commend you upon the layout and capabilities of this vessel, well in keeping with Romulan tactical and fleet operational doctrine.
Excellent video.
A Romulan Cruiser that Would Have Beaten the Enterprise.....if it had plot armor
War-bird -sub light with a torpedo launcher ,
War Eagle - an upgraded modernized War-bird hull , with warp engines in the wing pods, 1 torpedo launcher 4 phasers
per Star Fleet Battles , Task Force Games
Always loved the idea that the one from the show was just an old ship refitted to test the weapons systems.
Kinda like "mules" in car production, where old cars are modified or even hollowed out to test new engines and other tech for future models.
nice ship breakdown and kinda awkward yet interesting "first Contact" scenario at the end... Did not expect THAT
Great composite of the ships and gives curious viewers a comparison.
Excellent work 👍.
Can you imagine this in the big or small screen!
Great job!
Emperor : Thrawn! I have no time for you space-fantasies! I have self-rotten-clones to grown! an woke order to build!
THE FIRST ORDER: REPEAT EVERY MISTAKE THE EMPIRE MADE- ONLY WORSE
A horizontal warp core is not all that strange so the arrangement shown in the video is quite reasonable. For example, according to Jefferies the TOS Enterprise had one that was transverse mounted between the nacelle struts and ran under the floor of the warp engineering rooms seen on the show (the same set represented three different engineering spaces, the port and starboard warp rooms just forward of the shuttlebay, and the impulse engineering room at the back of the saucer, which is why it looks so radically different in various episodes). And they actually show the horizontal warp core in an episode of TAS. It wasn't until the refit that the Enterprise started using the relatively new vertical warp core design.
I am not convinced about the fusion plasma power though, not only is there is no way it would produce enough power, the dialog actually mentioned the torpedo being antimatter based plasma, not a fusion product. Also, Scotty found no sign of a conventional warp drive system in the Romulan ship in Balance of Terror, just simple impulse even though its presence was impossible without an FTL drive of some sort due to the distances involved. That is one of the main things the singularity system was thought up to explain, and works if they used some sort of gravity based FTL system that was not as efficient as warp drive until they got warp technology from the Klingons.
The original warbird in that episode seems to have been something like a real world monitor, a rather slow ship built around a single dreadnaught level weapon meant for shore bombardment rather than ship-to-ship combat since they apparently carried no weapons except for that massively powerful torpedo system and its nuclear self-destruction charges.
Ah, awesome quote there, dropping that quote from the Birth of the Federation!
Except you've forgotten the part in the episode when the Romulan warrior exclaimed to the Romulan commander, The Praetor's finest ship beaten! How commander?! That's Star Trek Canon.
The other glaring problem with the Romulan plasma weapon is that it can only travel in a straight line at warp speed.
Once Star Fleet learned that tactical disadvantage, it became useless against any ship that could out maneuver the bolt once it was fired.
It was very effective against stationary targets like space stations, but eventually it was pretty useless against other starships in battle except for possibly a coup de grace and at that point it would just be a waste of massive amounts of energy.
Oh I love this ship!
The glory of weilding a one, two, plasma punch!
I've been working on a 1:1000 scale scratchbuild of the Gallant Wing.
what is the music in the begining of the video?
Best Twran voice over ever nicely done 👏 👏 👏 👏
The Enterprise didn't destroy the Bird of Prey. Its commander destroyed it himself.
They state in balance of terror that the bird of prey was their flagship
Oh, wow, that was fucking awesome.
However what would undo even Thrawn is facing a ship that can fight while at FTL speeds.
your shader work is pretty good
Has anyone found Soundtrack video on Scott Buckleys channel? Can you link please as I was unsuccessful to find it.
I keep wanting to do ship videos about my own universe ships, but you keep raising the bar of how these things should be done and I can't keep up. :)
Nicely done sir.
...Though any analysis that suggests the Gallant is the best the Romulans had, clearly ignores the gorgeous killy death machine that is the Winged Defender.
I have a question. Can deflectors stop transporter beams? I feel like they would be ineffective, in SW we usually see things passing through deflector shields unhampered, so there wouldn’t be anything stopping the Romulans from pulling a Stargate Atlantis and just beaming a nuke(most likely a plasma torpedo) aboard a Star Destroyer and utterly dominating the Empire. The only major advantage the Empire possesses is FTL, hyperdrives are just ridiculous and that would be the first thing the Romulans would rectify + combining hyperdrives with warp drives would give the Romulans unprecedented mobility, overcoming the reliance on hyperlanes and complex navigation by giving them the possibility of overcoming obstacles at warp. Getting a hyperdrive should be trivial for the Romulans, just beam it out of a ship or beam the crew out, whatever comes first.
I believe that Star Wars shields are likely strong enough to dampen transporters...IF they are up. However we do not normally see that tactic you describe used even in Star Trek when both ship's shields are down leading me to believe there may be some lower level dampening field to prevent hostile transporters during combat; as an aside even without this perhaps it takes some skill to transport to a ship that may be moving any which way in combat or emitting various forms of radiation.
Interestingly, one of the original scripts for this video had the Gallant Wing beaming OFF several bits of the Star Destroyer’s loose tech., which would help to balance that advantage later on, as Thrawn would begin his Defence by finding a way to prevent that from working.
Starwars hyperdrives aren't actually that good in my opinion. They're designed about the hyperlanes and are considerably less effective when you move off those if the maps are anything to go by. Modern movies both Trek and Wars seem happy to ignore travel time in favour of blowing things up. Anyway I imagine on the hyperspace lanes starwars would have a speed advantage but off them the Trek ships would have the advantage because their speed can be applied anywhere.
I like the idea that the Romulans stole UFP technology.
If they're in range to use ion canons; which have a maximum range of 0.8 km, the Romulans are easily in range to kill them with a single shot; so they better activate their defenses post-haste, or they mayn't get a second chance therein- as fits the tactics of the Rihannsu perfectly well indeed!
We saw Thrawn bombard Chopper base with three ISDs. Judging by the damage they did (they scorched an area a few hundred meters across), all three of them would have gotten smoked by a single standard Bird of Prey - Outpost 4 was a mile deep on an asteroid, and two shots obliterated the entire asteroid and the base with it.
Great job 👍
Liked it all, especially the performance of the "Imperiales". It's as Thrawn's crew -& himself, to sound and behave.
Love your site thank you
now I want to hear more.
Great video, It would be great if you could do one for the Vas'deletham class V30 Winged defender.
Here aya go: resurrectedstarships.com/romulan-v-30-winged-defender-cruiser/
Thank you
Resurrected Starships. In my view this ship is the 23rd century version of the Scimitar.
@@brianmason2378 Oh yes - I think I should maybe make a 2nd video about that ship as the first might not do it justice...perhaps a battle or story? I'm not sure...a what if scenario maybe.
@@resurrectedstarships a battle-story then? Lol
I’m not entirely sure, but at the rate of Romulan technical advancement and Imperial technical advancement, I’m afraid the Emperor’s deflector shield will not be operational for long after Those That Fly Beneath The Raptor’s Wings arrive.
Where do you get your sound effects?
Stopped at 1:22, just after the suggestion that maybe the Romulans weren’t sending their best tech, and maybe by implication, their best people-but Mark Leonard’s Romulan Commander, Leonard played him with the confidence of Captain Marko Ramius, from _The Hunt for Red October,_ novel and movie….in other words, Leonard played _The Man!_ And I don’t think any fleet picking on their prime opponent would give _The Man_ subpar stuff!
Yeah i stopped there too. Says right in the show, that is the best the Romulans have. And its sub sub par. Good for sneaking up on stationary rocks and thats it
Its got one good weapon, that can be detonated by phasers supposedly...and a cloak thats kinda shitty.
Wonder what would have happened if it had faced V’GER? Enterprise refit was at least able to withstand one of V’ger’s plasma energy weapons
Wait, so does that mean that the Galactic Empire are (alittle bit) afraid of the Romulan Empire?
So much for my hopes of a Galactic/Romulan Empire alliance.
From what i heard, the Romulans are built on superiority and paranoia. The galactic empire has every reason to be afraid.
I am super impressed by how thorough, detailed, and interesting both the model, and the narration are. Thanks for putting this together. Edit : I just realized I didn't subscribe. That is now fixed.
Where can I find the full version of that classic Romulan theme.
Do a TH-cam search for
ROMULAN THEME
or
ROMULAN THEME MUSIC
The classic Romulan music theme (from TOS) is in a 58 second video. There are also some good TNG Romulan themes in other videos.
If you want all of the music from "The Balance of Terror", do a TH-cam search for
BALANCE OF TERROR THEME
There is a video with all the music from "The Balance of Terror". The video is 18 minutes and 6 seconds long.
@@dandeliondowntoo7068 search for Romulan Fleet March. ITS FUCKING EPIC.
That poor ISD would have to jump to hyperspace before the Romulans turned into scrap. How do you use lasers against a ship making Warp Speed drive by attacks? The Imperials would have no idea where the next attack would be coming from until the Disruptor Bolts and Plasma Torpedoes started blowing huge chunks out of the hull.
While Hyperspace travel might temporarily give the Empire a strategic mobility advantage (the Romulans would certainly be able to reverse engineer the hyperspace drives and get maps of the hyperspace lanes) there is only so far you can run before you have to turn and fight. It would be like the German High Seas Fleet of WWI trying to go toe to toe with a large number of modern SSNs.
The V-8 uses Federation technology. You can tell this because it's the color grey. The Romulans had to steal the technology for grey paint from the Federation.
Cool video.
Well in TOS the crewman on the Warbird said their ship was the finest and proudest flagship.
The galactic empire's forces would be *woefully* outmatched by these guys if any full-scale war were to erupt, just judging from the ranges of the guns in question, and the lethality involved.
Good video
This is awesome. The Romulans,Star Trek and Star Wars crossover. Thrawn sizing up a new threat. Excellent fan frandz stuff. I'll keep watching.
Star Wars have never really had that good of scanning equipment to even see what kind of engines a ship would have?
That was great!
I like this video but in the episode in question "balance of terror" they actually say they are in the preators finest ship.....
Exactly.
That doesn't say that much. Officers who take pride in the vessel they serve on aren't necessarily objective and therefore unreliable narrators. They may consider their ship the praeotor's finest, but that doesn't mean the praetor thinks so, too. Besides: Sending a ship against an unknown enemy to gauge their strength does carry the risk to lose that ship. Telling the crew they and their finest in the fleet - even though they chose were because that's exactly what their ship is not - is a cheap way raise the morale of that crew so their performance doesn't suffer from the expression of being expendable.
@@MrAranton i think you are extrapolating far to much there with no basis.
Career officers have pride but are professional and would never refer to their vessel as the finest unless it had at least some factual basis.
If you watch the episode with the new weapon and cloak plus highly experienced commander it's clear that this is a top of the line ship.
Also in "the enterprise incident" the romulans start using klingon designs as their own were inferior in terms of warp etc.
Good concept and video but ultimately This ship was conceived in a game decades after the fact. It just doesn't fit...
@@mickmerr
Pointing out that not all narrators are reliable isn't that much of an extrapolation. It's something you should always keep in mind.
Plus: There's a lot of room for subjectivity in the term "fine". Scotty is a career officer, and he says plenty of deragatory things about ships that are not the Enterprise to justify why "his" ship is the finest in the fleet. Which during the movie era includes Excelsior, which is clearly the more advanced vessel and much mor worthy of the title "the Federation's finest" than Enterprise (both NCC-1701 and NCC-1701-A) at this point. Also: What is Enterprise doing in Wrath of Khan before they respond to the emergency call from Regula station? A training cruise with shipload of cadets. What are Starfleet's plans for Enterprise in "The Search for Spock?" Not to repair the damage the ship sustained fighting Khan and to decomission it. Which indicates: Starfleet Command does not think Enterprise is their finest ship. If they thought so, they wouldn't use Enterprise for training cruises or decomission her because it took some damage. So much for the objectivity of the career officer Montgomery Scott...
@@MrAranton
1. Scotty isn't a Romulan.
2. The Praetor isn't an officer: he's literally next to the Emperor. The "Praetor's pride" gets decided by the Praetor.
Always liked this simple design. I wish FASA was canon.
Love it, good job.
This was posted just before everything in 2020 went to hell... It feels like it was five years ago now...
Well done, RS! I'm not a fan of mixing universes like that (Star Trek already has enough inconsistencies without having to force its bulkheads to weather those kinds of waves!), I really enjoyed Thrawn looking over the V6 and masterfully surmising its nature.
What happens when they meet again? Guess will never know...
Overall my money is on the Star Destroyer.
Ion lasers, turbo lasers and various tie fighters involved.
It will be a slaughter against the Romulans.
A slaughter? The Romulans can fire from far, far outside the Star Destroyer's range and cloak before TIEs could even get close. Remember, just two Plasma Torpedoes from the TOS era could pulverize shielded, 2-mile diameter asteroids of nearly solid iron (objects at minimum, twice as large as a Star Destroyer and far more dense). These torpedoes could also travel at warp speed. Star Destroyers, with all their turbolasers, cannot match this kind of firepower or speed.
In
this instance, the Force is definately with the Romulans.
Can the Force BE with anything that doesn't have midi-chlorians? The Romulans don't have them. Nothing in the Trek Milky Way Galaxy does that we know of.
I really like this vessel.
Good job
I love the story
Problem is with the story at the end is that the plasma weapons are warp capable so the star destroyer could not put run it accept with a jump.
The original warbird was not destroyed by the Enterprise, it was destroyed by its own captain after being severely damaged by the Enterprise and after refusing Kirk's offer to beam over survivors. The distinction between being destroyed by the Enterprise and destroyed by its own crew was important in the show, because it contrasted Romulan values to Federation values, and as such is not a minor gripe.
clearly this guy never watch the episode Balance of Terror. "Be it true Comander? The Praetors best beatin."
The series and these videos always treat space and navigation as 2 dimensional.
This would be a hell of a sequel to the Undiscovered Country :D
Funnily, larger cruisers are now canon, as in ST strange new worlds. So, your logic was sound after all to some degree.
Is it gonna be a followup to the story plus I like to see a story with the rebels meeting some far off alien inVader's good or bad Coming up with someone from either mass effect More Or heck they could meet the crew of the USS ceritos
I thought the commander or the second in command said something about how could the empires flag ship be beaten by the Federation ?
So why would the empires flag ship be what your saying ?