The WORST Transformers Of 2022! Over TEN TERRIBLE Toys! Transformers LEGACY! MASTERPIECE & MORE!

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  • The WORST Transformers Of 2022! Over TEN TERRIBLE Toys!
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  • @PrimeVsPrime
    @PrimeVsPrime  ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Do you guys agree with my picks for the WORST Transformers of 2022?

    • @FabianRivera..
      @FabianRivera.. ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Its looking like i wil😄( I’ve watched it all) I agree especially with the bad rid figures like who even made them?

    • @Fallen_huggy_prime
      @Fallen_huggy_prime ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bro I totally agree with you

    • @inflatabledisplays1312
      @inflatabledisplays1312 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Wild rider and breakdown aren’t even that bad…. And skids isn’t even that bad

    • @PrimeVsPrime
      @PrimeVsPrime  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@inflatabledisplays1312 the legs of skids tho 😯

    • @darkhotrodshorts9187
      @darkhotrodshorts9187 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I Don’t hate breakdown is just that they should’ve remolded the entire vehicle mode

  • @monkeyprank6810
    @monkeyprank6810 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    I suspect the GI Joe Crossover figures could make a "worst figures of the decade" list. It feels like Hasbro assigned that design project to a group of college interns rather than their pro Transformers design team.

    • @mitchellbambam5926
      @mitchellbambam5926 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Interns given a very low budget

    • @funkyflow5877
      @funkyflow5877 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You’re half right
      They were designed by the Joe team instead of the TF designers

    • @conehead9796
      @conehead9796 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apparently they are making more of them

    • @RingoLoadagain
      @RingoLoadagain ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@funkyflow5877 What a terrible idea. Transformers are so much more complex than anything else, why give it to the team which is guaranteed to have less experience with the main gimmick of the toy?

    • @mpsorrentino
      @mpsorrentino ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RingoLoadagain Well, for one, they are meant to celebrate GI Joe's anniversary, so getting the vehicle forms accurate took priority, unfortunately. Ideally, they should have had a hybrid team of some Transformer designers and GI Joe designers working together maybe then we could have gotten original robot forms that blend and work better with the vehicle forms.

  • @katiepersons6575
    @katiepersons6575 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    What's even more infuriating with the train bots is you just know HasTak is going to look at poor sales of these things and be like "Welp, guess the fans just don't want Masterpiece Combiners then" when it's the bad scale, terrible engineering and high price that keep us at bay. It really is embarrassing to see backroom counterfeiters in China cobble together a better version than the biggest toy maker on the planet.

    • @PrimeVsPrime
      @PrimeVsPrime  ปีที่แล้ว +54

      I absolutely agree! Had these been engineered properly or even if they had approached G1 constructicons I’m certain they would’ve sold great!

    • @crossbones9016
      @crossbones9016 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      not true, there is already another MPG in the works lol

    • @superomegaprimemk2
      @superomegaprimemk2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think they'll decide that they'll not do unknown combiners thou I expect they'll learn the lessons from this and do something else, maybe they'll attempt to do Railracer from RID2001, but its clear that they were trying to appeal beyond the Transformers fans to fans of model trains but likely not quite landing with either side of the spectirum, besides, this is likely a Takara varity project as Hasbro isn't releasing it, I mean the characters are pretty much unknown to a lot of western fans as it only appeared in Headmasters anime

    • @RACH90810
      @RACH90810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PrimeVsPrime first mpg target audience was hq train collector. Model train collector.

    • @RACH90810
      @RACH90810 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@superomegaprimemk2 first mpg target audience were hq train collector. The next combiner maybe more broad target audience.

  • @bw1678
    @bw1678 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    I realize you didn't actually put Bulkhead on this list, but I thought he was not only "not bad", but actually really great. The camo paint on the Amazon version was also neat.

    • @jmccray84
      @jmccray84 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Exactly got him this Christmas and he was an overall great figure. Only problem was that his right arm didn't tab into the slot on his body.

    • @matthewlist221
      @matthewlist221 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I came down here to say exactly this - he sure looks different from his Prime incarnation, but I think he's very posable, and he looks great with his accessories. Posing him with the shield out, ready to swing a mace-fist (or a hammer) is a lot of fun.

    • @footbreather5296
      @footbreather5296 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      even thought bulkhead is not accurate it is a really good g1 version of the character

    • @PlatinumKnight-je3vy
      @PlatinumKnight-je3vy ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Prime Bulkhead in Legacy was surprising, we initially thought he’d be a cheap and horrible looking figure but turned out we were all wrong. He’s extraordinarily solid and actually feels good in hand, happy I eventually chose to pick him up earlier in the year!

    • @SamanthaS92
      @SamanthaS92 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think the problem PvP has is relating to the original character. The figure we got, on its own, is a pretty fun toy, with a good transformation, good posablity… but as a Transformers Prime Bulkhead, he failed to be that character.

  • @VenomPlayer7117
    @VenomPlayer7117 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    honestly I kinda like legacy bulkhead and knockout. Arcee is pretty bad but bulkhead gave us a vehicle mode that isn't seen that often outside of maybe Hound from the bay movies and Knockouts car mode looks beautiful and uses the SS 86 Jazz mold which I think was pretty good.

    • @dinobot66
      @dinobot66 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I couldn't consider getting Knockout, because his chest in robot is friggin huge and I don't like the shoulders and feet of Jazz, which he's based on
      Bulkhead is fucking great, yeah. He just doesn't resemble Prime Bulkhead very much and to be honest looks bad on camera

    • @VenomPlayer7117
      @VenomPlayer7117 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dinobot66 yeah I can see that. But jazz is my favorite G1 character and Knockout is my favorite character in general so it kinda just works out for me lol.

    • @PlatinumKnight-je3vy
      @PlatinumKnight-je3vy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bulkhead was the most solid Prime figure in Legacy, Knockout had a great car mode but mixed robot mode and Arcee was sort of the same. I think that the Flamewar repaint was the best use of her mould though and worked out for the better.

    • @hotwheelsbrothers687
      @hotwheelsbrothers687 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like Knockout! Is it just me or I enjoy Knockout!!! I only have Knockout and Bulkhead from the prime Universe

    • @reyonXIII
      @reyonXIII ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If nothing else, Knock Out is a better TOY than the old mold. Like, that thing is such a pain to handle, and not even that good looking to begin with. Only his Takara Adventure (aka Takara RID15) Bloody Knockout deco is anything nice to look at.
      Bulkhead is more like Skyquake: both better benefit from not STRICTLY being said specific characters, but TRUE Generations designs, because Skyquake clear has his G2 design in his sculpt, and the only part of Bulkhead that is "Prime" is his head design. Everything else owes more to both Animated Bulkhead, as well as Bayverse Hound.
      Legacy Bulkhead is "best of all Bulkheads", and if you look at him from that angle, he's nothing short of amazing!

  • @alc4528
    @alc4528 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Personally I think bulkhead is a amazing figure. Maybe he’s a bad depiction of bulkhead from transformers prime but he’s a amazing unconnected bulkhead.

    • @baldytalkinnerdy3462
      @baldytalkinnerdy3462 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed. Interesting transformation scheme, good articulation, ROCK SOLID joints and a couple of cool accessories. Also, his eyes - weird thing to notice maybe, but they’re very well done. Arcee makes me shudder though - the stupid leg wheels were an instant dealbreaker for me, that and her lifeless head sculpt.

    • @thrusttheconehead5369
      @thrusttheconehead5369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same with knockout. I like to have him next to my Siege Megatron.

  • @d3athstrok317
    @d3athstrok317 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The Arcee really just needed a tab or a clip for her waist to make her infinitely better in my opinion. Like overall she’s decent for posing but I hate it when she just throws her back out just moving her.

    • @CaptainShepard09
      @CaptainShepard09 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree, I just bought her 3 days ago and the fact her waist doesn’t plug in makes me so mad.

    • @leefrierson6472
      @leefrierson6472 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Reminded me of that TFP voyager Starscream

    • @baldytalkinnerdy3462
      @baldytalkinnerdy3462 ปีที่แล้ว

      Her waist actually does snap into place, but the way they did it sucks. There’s a tiny clip right above the friction joint - you have to apply a little pressure, but just the tiniest bit too much and that joint pops out and is an absolute BEAR to pop back in.

  • @Blvcked_xut
    @Blvcked_xut ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I agree with every pick for this list except prime universe Bulkhead. Bulkhead was something new, he had a great pose ability, good details, amazing truck mode, good accessories, including his iconic mace. I remember you said in your wrap up video of legacy wave 1 that Bulkhead was actually good. I get it, he's not fully accurate to the show, but it's not a secret that many transformers fans wanted some beloved characters from the franchise with a pinch of g1 design. So this and Skyquake are the best examples of that. The leaked animated Prowl isn't 100% accurate to the source material as well, but I don't remember you complaining and gushing about that figure. With that said, great video, keep it up bro, you're one of the best TF reviewers out there.

  • @soularprimestudios5930
    @soularprimestudios5930 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Technically transformers prime had a movie made by a studio. Why don't we have studio series transformers prime figs yet. That might be our chance to have a accurate prime Arcee.

    • @PlatinumKnight-je3vy
      @PlatinumKnight-je3vy ปีที่แล้ว

      It was more a TV movie than an actual one, SS should be more for the live-action/movie stuff anyway rather than the CHUG stuff excluding SS86.

  • @robertomarin978
    @robertomarin978 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I disagree with picking Bulkhead for this list. True, very different from what we had on our heads when it first leaked on the listing. But as the thing it turned out to be, I loved it at first sight. I love the square cab chest, and the shameless bot-ness of him, and transforming him is fun! I can totally see his Prime personality through this toy (not Arcee though, on her, we agree she could have been better). I also disagree with backpack kibble being a thing to hate. It is a robot. Backpacks are par for the course. Not that I dislike a slim-looking bot, but to me anything asymmetric adds to any bot's look.

  • @dialNforNinja
    @dialNforNinja ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'd actually count Bulkhead as the BEST figure of the year, though I'll grant that I'm also basing that on getting him in a damaged box for $20, instead of the now-standard VOY price of ~$33. He's just a big, unapologetic slab of armor and hydraulics with an alt mode that's a refreshing departure from the standard "motorbikes, sports cars, and Optimus" Autobot lineup, no hollows in his limbs and while the whole chest is an empty box it doesn't show from most angles, a really clever way of hiding the fuel tanks away inside the legs and mostly-decently getting the feet to look like tailgates rather than just hanging out on the back of the truck, average to slightly above articulation, seriously, what's not to love here? The overall design may be different from previous renditions of the character, but it preserves the essence of him so you absolutely know who he is at a glance, unlike, say, basically any live action character except Arcee and SS86 Optimus. No, movie characters who you know at a glance were designed as someone else and then given the wrong name with maybe a head swap (camaro Bee/Hot Shot, Jazz/Bluestreak, Hound/Bulkhead, and Mirage/Jazz, for just the most egregious) don't count.
    As for LGC Knockout, yeah his robot mode is only vaguely approximate to what it should be, but the car mode is chef's kiss perfect, and he'd be the first to tell you that's the important part.
    My question is how Pointblank avoided getting put on your list? Horrible proportions, horrible colour clash, trash articulation, targetmaster far below the Prime Wars headmasters let alone WFC standards... He's easily as bad as Skids or HISS Megatron. Did you just repress his existence entirely?

  • @arrowblueberri
    @arrowblueberri ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Yeah I definitely agree with most or all of these. Legacy had so much potential but it falls victim to simplicity and basically just wasted the best opportunity to give us our best modern/reinspired prime designs that we’ve ever gotten: Same with the RED series. I do take one positive off of this video though, that studio series didn’t scratch onto this list and seemed to do everything right this year 🎉😁🎉 Which I agree with, I think studio series is the god gift to transformers movie and toy lovers (like myself). Great list, keep up the good work! ❤

  • @YaBoiCornbread
    @YaBoiCornbread ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Let's hope we don't get any bad figures in 2023. Hopefully Hasbro watches this and learns from there mistake. But great video.

    • @PlatinumKnight-je3vy
      @PlatinumKnight-je3vy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There will be great, good, okay and bad figures next year as the same as before now and moving forward. Still 2023’s looking like an amazing year for the figures, if you’ve seen the leaks then you know what I mean.

    • @hijous
      @hijous ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They won't

    • @prismstar438
      @prismstar438 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's always going to be bad figures in someone's eyes. No getting around that.

  • @benboocher9670
    @benboocher9670 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think arcee is great. Not because she’s accurate or anything, but it has to be one of the most posable figures in legacy. I really enjoy the waist joint especially, since it’s got a crunch and a side to side tilt

    • @PokTrainer
      @PokTrainer หลายเดือนก่อน

      If it wasn't for the stupid back

  • @whiteowl5370
    @whiteowl5370 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've always been a HUGE fan of the stunticons. But I was disappointed for not getting wildrider and dead-end and I ain't giving up on getting them no matter how shitty people say about the other 3 stunticons

    • @baldytalkinnerdy3462
      @baldytalkinnerdy3462 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn’t like Wildrider initially, but he grew on me. Don’t mind that little “saddlebag” bits that come off of the hood, kinda gives me VTOL vibes. Still need Dead End and Breakdown, but overall I’m just glad we now have a good, solid version of Menasor.
      It will be interesting to see what they do with the others, if they make them.

  • @dominicproctor1110
    @dominicproctor1110 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got a total of 14 transformers for Christmas including metroplex and thank the lord none of the figs I got were on this list. Thanks to watching all PvP’s reviews

  • @HelenaSan425
    @HelenaSan425 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Dragstrip is the best legacy deluxe along with Kickback

    • @PrimeVsPrime
      @PrimeVsPrime  ปีที่แล้ว

      Dragstrip is nice!

    • @axelgrease69
      @axelgrease69 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dragstrip is awesome but a little flat.

    • @PlatinumKnight-je3vy
      @PlatinumKnight-je3vy ปีที่แล้ว

      I’d say that he’s one of the best, there’s definitely more!

  • @PotentialGrim
    @PotentialGrim ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Legacy figures were great, it's amazing to have a Knock-out that I can fit with my G1 Decepticons.

  • @seekerplex1880
    @seekerplex1880 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Honestly they should’ve just rereleased the first edition prime figures I would’ve been happy and pretty sure others would be too since they were kind of rare to find

    • @PrimeVsPrime
      @PrimeVsPrime  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree! Would’ve been AMAZING for so many fans that missed out on them

    • @brotquel1592
      @brotquel1592 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It would have also helped to counter scalpers. And maybe take back some of those fans who went to APC.

    • @seekerplex1880
      @seekerplex1880 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah that way no one has spend $200 on a third party version or a scalped one, also the quality on those first edition ones was almost peak my arcee and knockout broke like two weeks after I got them

  • @TheAncientPrime
    @TheAncientPrime ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hello there , so I have a question would you do a best legacy ??? 🥺

  • @inflatabledisplays1312
    @inflatabledisplays1312 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Prime vs prime is too positive sometimes, this is great

    • @PrimeVsPrime
      @PrimeVsPrime  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha thank you! I hope you enjoy lol

  • @kylelangdon6724
    @kylelangdon6724 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “This was actually the first figure I got for Legacy”
    Black Zarak: Am I a joke to you?

  • @4kocour424
    @4kocour424 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I personaly love the G1-esque Prime characters.
    I absolutely love Arcee. Yes, she is out of scale in vehicle mode and her backpack is too big (altough you can remove a large section of it) and personaly I would like her to be a bit shorter, like Cliffjumper maybe. My only complaint is that on my copy, her mid section pin is so loose that she can´t stand straight and not even nail polish is able to help too much with that.
    With Knockout, yeah, he is kinda "too chubby" instead of sleek in robot mode, but the car is okay and this release means that I can add this pretty cool character fittingly into my collection, so Im glad for him.
    And I don´t really care about Bulkhead, I think he looks kinda cool, but Im not really interested in him as a character and I have way too many Autobots, so I passed him.

  • @jehb8945
    @jehb8945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can't go to a Walmart without seeing a legacy skids warming it's peg
    Skids looks like something that belongs in a Dollar tree

  • @vivimusjenos8174
    @vivimusjenos8174 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You essentially nailed legacy Dead End. I have him and I'm quite happy but I just can't get his feet to pin together properly for his alt mode. On another note I bought legacy Blitz just today and he is AMAAAAAZIIING 🤗

  • @xen0bia
    @xen0bia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't think Skids is that bad to be honest. I got the Burn-out version and the colour scheme is a definite improvement. It does needs leg fillers though.

  • @liopleurodonthedinoman3637
    @liopleurodonthedinoman3637 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The clip of Mr. Krabs taking a shower in money from SpongeBob is funny

  • @thebrandonrobert5693
    @thebrandonrobert5693 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My problem with the Legacy Prime figures is that Hasbro G1-ified them. I'm not saying it isn't a cool concept but they're revisiting a fan-favourite instalment of the franchise and their decision was to alter them in a way that nobody asked for. The success of Prime's figures is founded on their uniqueness and wide range of ability. They were characteristic and distinguishable from each other. The design scheme of the series allowed the designers to push their limits with the shapes and sizes, and ultimately keep characters from sharing a general boxy G1 silhouette.

  • @Michchall
    @Michchall ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah list starts with FoC Megatron testing plastic quality of autobots. I disagree with TFP characters, they aren't bad toys but just look less stylised. Bulkhead is one of the best figures, maybe since he works so well as TF:A Bulkhead more. With Stunticons I agree, dropped after Dragstrip and I'm glad I did it. So what lists remain? Best Legacy figures and Most anticipated for 2023?

  • @Wingless-
    @Wingless- ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Whoa, I'm SHOCKED to see the dislike for Legacy Arcee! I really liked that figure.

  • @cheeseyboi20
    @cheeseyboi20 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually like wildrider, he's just the combiner wars version that actually looks accurate to G1, has better proportion and better articulation, Breakdown is a little disappointing though, I wouldn't mind it as much if they had just changed the front section of the car to be a lambo

    • @axelgrease69
      @axelgrease69 ปีที่แล้ว

      The CW version is basically "what if the TFs landed on Earth in the 2000s?". Both CW Wildrider and Legacy Wildrider are Ferraris but the CW one is more of a modern one

    • @MikeD974
      @MikeD974 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree I dont have breakdown yet but wildrider was great

  • @AlcoholAndAnimeNight
    @AlcoholAndAnimeNight ปีที่แล้ว

    Its so crazy that they didn't do Beachcomber rather than Bumblebee. It seems so obvious. And then they never even did a repaint which seems like a huge waste

  • @lous2187
    @lous2187 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've never seen Breakdown available anywhere as he is the final Stunticon I need to get but whenever I look for him he isn't gonna be available until 2023 😪😪 but yeah Skids is super fiddly, especially the forearms

  • @fungboy3993
    @fungboy3993 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have no doubt that there will be more Masterpiece combiner because the main Masterpiece seems to be now using the same mould to give us many characters in different colours

  • @ochopantejardinero3327
    @ochopantejardinero3327 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You don't get what the Generations line ( sometimes) is about: a G1sk reinterpretation of other lines characters. That's the main reason why Generations Lugnut and Blitzwing ( with 3 faces) did not look like the animation.

  • @giantbonsai8950
    @giantbonsai8950 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me every single Legacy figure has been "what you had, but much, much worse and also more expensive." I've not bought a single one yet.

    • @fenixfelixx
      @fenixfelixx ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I had nothing anywhere near the level of quality of Legacy Inferno when I was playing with my Beast Wars toys in 96. You have no clue what you are saying.

  • @ThumbKnuckle
    @ThumbKnuckle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legacy Terrorsaur, a brick with wings that makes me want to buy the original flipchanging Beast Wars toy. (technically a kingdom figure, but still awful.)

  • @jackofspades3845
    @jackofspades3845 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would’ve been happy if they re-released the first gen in the legacy line

  • @carsonbailey7090
    @carsonbailey7090 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will still never understand the sheer hatred for Skids. I get why he doesn’t like it, but god damn the put down!

  • @Beybladebro824Z
    @Beybladebro824Z ปีที่แล้ว +7

    5:21 you swore for the first time

    • @PrimeVsPrime
      @PrimeVsPrime  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sometimes it helps to get the point across haha

    • @raydum24
      @raydum24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He says ass at 0:29

  • @fungboy3993
    @fungboy3993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Breakdown was a tame response to not getting the Lamborghini license and budget reasons from Hasbro that if you have the previous 4 then they can get away going cheap. The use of the spoiler as a weapon rather than two guns like the others was almost like they could not be bothered

  • @meowskull
    @meowskull ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Love your brute honesty. I think I'm only willing to give skids a pass because it's the best figure we have gotten for the character.

    • @PlatinumKnight-je3vy
      @PlatinumKnight-je3vy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel like his Thrilling 30’s version is the best due to him actually being based off the one from IDW.

    • @user-db9hi7uu3n
      @user-db9hi7uu3n ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@PlatinumKnight-je3vy Thrilling 30 Skids has much more problems than Legacy one. Being IDW is only good thing about him, if you are IDW fan

    • @PlatinumKnight-je3vy
      @PlatinumKnight-je3vy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-db9hi7uu3n Still it’s good that IDW got loads of attention back in 2013/14, wished I picked up a few back then.

  • @thedonkeyemporer
    @thedonkeyemporer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Prime, can you do a end of the year LEGACY transformers, like rank all of the legacy figures we got this year?

  • @gaelanfortin5816
    @gaelanfortin5816 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    U should've included Earthspark Megatron

  • @thomasohare
    @thomasohare ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Surprised Skullgrin isn't on this list. He's awful

  • @soularprimestudios5930
    @soularprimestudios5930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only reason people don't like Arcee is because they was accepting her to accurate to the show when this isn't even a prime toy line about accuracy to begin with. And her waist.

  • @RosencrantzxGuildenstern
    @RosencrantzxGuildenstern ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mostly agree with this list, though I'd personally swap out Skids and Bulkhead for Pointblank and Skullgrin. I genuinely like Bulkhead despite the toy not being accurate to the Prime design, and while Skids is far from flawless, at least the plastic on him feels pretty nice, which is more than what I can say about the aforementioned two.

  • @reverbtheraptor8529
    @reverbtheraptor8529 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really don't think the prime figures or Wildrider and Breakdown are THAT bad. Of course I still have yet to get them but I think you should look at Lazyeyebrow's review of Wildrider as he actually quite liked him. The only bad thing about Wildrider is the prices people are giving him.

  • @etalbert1337
    @etalbert1337 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be fair, the MPG trains cost less than half the cost of an MP seeker at retail, official only. But yeah I wish they had a bit more oomph.

  • @MeNamesPoshOpossum
    @MeNamesPoshOpossum ปีที่แล้ว

    The Prime figures while inaccurate were still pretty cool, I was able to get Knockout in a mainline realtor for the first time in years.

  • @uainjansun
    @uainjansun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you want a identity crisis fig wait till hasbro makes the animated shatterred glass arcee. You'll be speechless and laughing 🤣

  • @makswolanski5549
    @makswolanski5549 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I personally really enjoyed the legacy bulkhead, mostly becouse they kept most of his characteristic traits whilst changing the details, and gave him a much cooler alt mode. I also love his shoulder Cannon, it always reminds me of prime Breakdown, which is kind of ironic concidering the history these two had. But i gotta agree on Arcee and Knockout. Knockout especially, he was one of my favourites in TFP, and this new toy just fomoletelly got him rid of his most characteristic traits and made him all weird and bulky.

  • @chrisvellner3922
    @chrisvellner3922 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wasn't impressed enough with the Studio Series 86 Core Class WHEELIE figure to pick one up yet.
    But... maybe if I find one on clearance...

  • @bad2dabohn1992
    @bad2dabohn1992 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can give Wildrider a pass since he came out before Breakdown and thus Hasbro already had the mold ready, but yeah Breakdown is just a huge letdown. Only getting him to complete Menasor and not for play value.

  • @jamiedeering3400
    @jamiedeering3400 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't really understand the idea of transformer figures that don't transform , completely defeats the idea/whole point of transformers, it's literally in the name

  • @joshuaanthony1871
    @joshuaanthony1871 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    living in the Midwest US, I still have not seen wave 2 or wave 3 of Legacy figures on store shelves... I have been able to nab a few online... but missing 3 stunticon's still... what the heck happened to the distribution this year?! Why does Target and Walmart only have wave 1 of the legacy deluxes... all year?!?

    • @mikerossin9974
      @mikerossin9974 ปีที่แล้ว

      My Wal-Mart and Target are the same way.

    • @BurntTM
      @BurntTM ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm missing 3 Stunticons as well, I have Dragstrip and Wildrider however.

  • @hotwheelsbrothers687
    @hotwheelsbrothers687 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What color should I get out of the Arcee prime universe mold???
    The red one? (Forgot her name)
    Or Flamewar?

  • @reaverofsouls
    @reaverofsouls ปีที่แล้ว

    2 points. I knew Breakdown was going to be a remold of Wildrider. Second, pretty sure no one is going to display the Legacy Stunticons individually.

  • @Volcanoboy-zh9oh
    @Volcanoboy-zh9oh ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah I do agree Legacy Prime Universe Arcee is quite bad. Horrible QC, frustrating transformation, stupid accessories, and a mediocre robot mode all make me regret paying 20 bucks for it.

  • @nickd6303
    @nickd6303 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Out of those that share the Prime Arcee mold, both Flamewar and Road rocket can have a pass as they're characters that rarely get figures at all. But the retail Arcee just doesn't work for the character.

    • @RingoLoadagain
      @RingoLoadagain ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm personally done with getting figures that are "bad but that's all we have right now" I can't afford to waste the shelf space and money on bad figures.

  • @knightwolfpro4494
    @knightwolfpro4494 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The one character that could have used the R.E.D. treatment and didn't get it was the G1 Arcee. It's nearly impossible to do an accurate Robot mode of her that transformers. I have 1 third Party version that managed it better than any other version.

  • @Deceptibot9477
    @Deceptibot9477 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sometimes I feel like I'm only person who likes the Prime Universe guys.. especially Arcee. I do think in comparison to some of the other Universes in Legacy- they could have done better to adhere to the original designs especially when it comes to Knock Out and Bulkhead but I think Arcee looks pretty good and she's overall a fun toy for me

  • @Gojiraman2005
    @Gojiraman2005 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imo, Bulkhead, Knockout, Wildrider, & Breakdown were pretty damn cool!

    • @PrimeVsPrime
      @PrimeVsPrime  ปีที่แล้ว

      Bulkhead & Knockout were ok to me but could’ve been better

    • @Gojiraman2005
      @Gojiraman2005 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PrimeVsPrime Idk tbh. I think they look great just the way they are. I respect your opinion! And also, do you think Wildrider and Breakdown should’ve been twins in the first place?

  • @waynesoon0101
    @waynesoon0101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Skids is a solid figure maybe without the hood on the back of the head he would have been perfect but doesn't deserve to be on the list

  • @wildwolf2295
    @wildwolf2295 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Okay I understand some of the hate for the prime ideation for legacy bulkhead arcee and knockout but at this point I'm sorry but you complain a bit to much

  • @Fallen_huggy_prime
    @Fallen_huggy_prime ปีที่แล้ว +2

    honestly, I would add an optimus legacy of some kind, he is huge because of this, he is weak, especially the shoulders, and so everything is correct both in your opinion and in mine

    • @PrimeVsPrime
      @PrimeVsPrime  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think there’s definitely pros and cons to Optimus. Personally I like him more than anything on this list 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @Fallen_huggy_prime
      @Fallen_huggy_prime ปีที่แล้ว +1

      as they say , everyone has their own tastes , but I 'm waiting for a misunderstanding to appear !!!! Optimus Prime from TFP to Legacy and Megatron

  • @SamanthaS92
    @SamanthaS92 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m just glad Coronation Starscream didn’t make it onto the list. I love my Coronation Starscream… I wish I bought him at today’s price of $35 instead of the $55 I paid… but he’s one of my favourite characters, and that scene is one of my favourite scenes from the movie… I never bought the Earthrise version, so I’m very happy with Coronation Starscream.

  • @orcaman8794
    @orcaman8794 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I felt the same way about the prime bots but still picked up bulkhead and arcee and I have gotta admit the bulkhead is growing on me although I got him because of his alt mode and he probably would have been better as a different character.

  • @brandontaylor7744
    @brandontaylor7744 ปีที่แล้ว

    The legacy figures getting such negativity here is surprising. Skids is actually really good with design and transformation that is very much "Skids." Sure, the panel on the back of the head isn't great, but other than that he's good. Plus the plastic on him is amazing. And Bulkhead is also an amazing figure, though I can understand why some people are disappointed in the Prime universe characters getting G1ified. Arcee isn't great though, so I'll give you that.

  • @N94able
    @N94able ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bit harsh on poor bulk head.

  • @alexoconnor3385
    @alexoconnor3385 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I wanted to get that megatron but couldn’t find him anywhere just because I love the prime show

  • @brotquel1592
    @brotquel1592 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely agree.
    First of all, I'll straight up cancel the RED line, I mean, seriously, there are reports of Cheetor ending up with hil calves bent just for standing up! And what was with the paint? The "blast effects" form RED Arcee were left grey!
    Second, and that doesn't go only for the trainbots, let's just stop with clear plastic: Hasbro obviously don't know how to handle it and its turning out to be the (not so) modern version of GPS, along with the whole yellowing issue.
    The G.I.Joe croosovers are even more infuriating if you think that this is the one canon crossover and that Hasbro owns both of the involved properties. They didn't even have to cut corners to save moner because of copyrights issues. Those ae bad for the sake of being cheap!
    Menasor... I'll take the CW version over the Legacy one any day of the week... look, it may be me, but I prefer a combiner in which all of the parts are necessary to have it functional... you could literally buy only Motormaster and you would already have a slimmer complete Menasor, with the rest of the team being nothing but added "bling", not that this is any justification from how bad they are... I mean, the calves are, on engineering and articulation level, a DOWNGRADE from their CW counterparts... AND THAT WAS SEVEN YEARS AGO!
    Prime... I already lamented about that enough... but I want to point out the ones who says "It's so we we have uniformity in style" are just delusional. Our current chug collection includes:
    -blocky G1
    -on-acids G2
    -bayverse
    -knightverse
    -rounded-organic Beast Wars
    -technorganic BW Transmetals
    -technorganic pretenders
    -whatever are the fossilizers
    Uniformity was never a factor in collecting transformers, since G1, this is just an excuse for cheap retools/pretools.
    "BuT iF thE OLd oNeS wERe BEttEr tHeN juSt buY tHOsE aND stOp COmPLainiNG!"
    1) what's wrong to want the classic look with UPGRADED TECHNOLOGY?
    2) have you seen the prices on the old ones? The cheapest 1st edition Prime Arcee on ebay goes for more than 80€!
    3) by that logic, no G1 characters should have been produced after 1990... instead it's been more than eight straight years in wich we have the same G1 characters done and re-done to death, and that is not counting what came BEFORE CW.
    UT fans deserve good updated toys of their beloved characters
    RiD fans deserve good updated toys of their beloved characters
    BW fans deserve good updated toys of their beloved characters
    PRIME FANS DESERVE GOOD UPDATED TOYS OF THEIR BELOVED CHARACTERS!
    Fans of every single generation deserve good updated toys of their beloved characters

    • @ToaKoran
      @ToaKoran ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can’t agree with this enough, what they did with the prime figures is unacceptable. Dreading in’s an improvement, for sure, but they honestly should have just re-released the Prime first editions.
      I finally am going to get the new Armada Prime I’ve been craving for years, but Prime fans only have overpriced used toys as their options, now, and some like Knockout STILL don’t even have a good toy at all. Hasbro’s decisions just don’t make sense, here.

    • @brotquel1592
      @brotquel1592 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ToaKoran APC is our only option... look at their Airachnid: that's what Hasbro should have done!

    • @tfsomegaguy6203
      @tfsomegaguy6203 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      heavily disagree about the cw menasor i had that menasor it could barely stand up properly or hold a decent pose and looked crap in every angle

    • @brotquel1592
      @brotquel1592 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tfsomegaguy6203 Understandable, as I said at that point, that is just my opinion.

  • @raphaeldagamer
    @raphaeldagamer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wildrider I don't mind so much, but Breakdown being a retool and recolor of Wildrider is awful. Wildrider is nothing to be proud of, and they basically gave us another Wildrider with a different head, new accessories, and a different color scheme and called him Breakdown.

  • @tenimeartstudios
    @tenimeartstudios ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love the Legacy Prime Arcee. If you want something more accurate to the cartoon, they had an entire line back when the cartoon aired. This is what "G1-styled" versions of other media characters SHOULD be.

  • @TFfangeek
    @TFfangeek ปีที่แล้ว

    My worst Legacy figures have been, Skullgrin, Masterdominus, and Buzzworthy Dinobot.

  • @danaobera4207
    @danaobera4207 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pointblank & Peacemaker. Terrible hips/pelvic design, hollow legs, minimum bending degree on the hands and most of all: downgrade on the target master design.

  • @there4you19
    @there4you19 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll admit the Prime Bulkhead's Vehicle mode is not accurate to the Transformers Prime show.

  • @SwiftpawWolffox
    @SwiftpawWolffox ปีที่แล้ว

    Arcee's MOLD is not bad. It is just better as Road Rocket and Flamewar than it is Arcee. Much like the Earthrise Mirage mold is better as Leadfoot or Crasher than it is Mirage (at least his Siege version can properly shoulder mount is rocket launcher!)
    HISS Megatron is horribly overpriced. But the HISS Tank at least fits him. The Joe crossover figure should of been Hound, Landmine or even Sandstorm, they would of fit the altmode much better than Bumblebee.

  • @FabianRivera..
    @FabianRivera.. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    UH OH i bet the fallens plane thing will be there MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

    • @PrimeVsPrime
      @PrimeVsPrime  ปีที่แล้ว

      Merry Xmas!

    • @TheActs2021
      @TheActs2021 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PrimeVsPrime X ?? keep Christ in CHRISTmas... yes sir

  • @AniToonimationKawaii
    @AniToonimationKawaii ปีที่แล้ว

    I would replace Skids with Pointblank. Skids is a pretty fun figure and has great articulation but Pointblank feels so off with it's head being the bland G1 head and not the Headmasters anime head despite originally called as Blanker being the Japanese name, has good leg articulation despite being hollow but those arms are just a joke. The target master literally being nothing but a brick and while the alt mode looks good, it doesn't save the figure at all. If Pointblank sacrificed his Targetmaster for better arm articulation and sold it separately as a core class figure then it would have been great but alas it's just a disappointing figure that is not worth 25 bucks at all despite it's size being pretty big. I only recommend Pointblank if you are interested on collecting the targetmasters.

  • @starforcenetwork
    @starforcenetwork ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "The actual Prime Arcee design wouldn't have much use for retools and recolors"
    Flamewar? Botcon Transmutate? Potential Bay Movie Universe Arcee/Elita/Chromia???

  • @pacstermh
    @pacstermh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really don't get your hate for Skids. I think he's a great figure

    • @axelgrease69
      @axelgrease69 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the Crankcase retool improved everything wrong with Skids except the legs.

  • @CapnGinyu
    @CapnGinyu ปีที่แล้ว

    I initially despised bulkhead but once I got him, modded his back canopy, and added some paint, I like him now

  • @clarkmeldrum7276
    @clarkmeldrum7276 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The dead end and wild rider toy backpacks are accurate though. Wtf is your problem.

  • @leonigama5597
    @leonigama5597 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was poor and worst Transformers Toy Figure Accurate ever

  • @CodeXCDM
    @CodeXCDM ปีที่แล้ว

    The Skids retool to Crankcase was actually pretty nice. Prime Arcee is soso, but the retools are neat. Disagree with Bulkhead. He at least looks reinvented. Arcee and Knockout are... Basic.

  • @IdontCareWhatUthink143
    @IdontCareWhatUthink143 ปีที่แล้ว

    The worst thing that happened to transformers in 2022 was the store like Walmart not getting anything new in and the scalpers.

  • @conehead9796
    @conehead9796 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like you could have put 86 Starscream on the list based on how lazy it was re-releasing a bad figure when they are giving us new updated versions of characters we got in the WFC line

  • @rickgamesbro1747
    @rickgamesbro1747 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bulk head is good in my opinion but arcee TRASH knockout I haven’t
    Gotten him yet but he looks good but the face mold is weird I don’t have a problem with the wild rider mold that much no skids is good it’s the look of the legs that’s weird

  • @Runamuck-vq2pe
    @Runamuck-vq2pe ปีที่แล้ว

    this made me feel a lot better about missing so many transformers that i couldnt afford 😄

  • @Rocket1377
    @Rocket1377 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skids doesn't deserve to be on the list. He is fine. You know who does? Blitzwing. A toy that you gave a glowing review, for reasons I simply do not understand.
    Only his robot mode was any good, both his tank and jet modes are awful, especially when compared to his 37 year old G1 toy. 1 out 3 ain't bad? Nope, that is unacceptable for a triple changer..

  • @dragoninabackpack8200
    @dragoninabackpack8200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a MTMTE Skids fan I'm in denial about the legacy toy being terrible. Also surprised studio series Perceptor isn't on this list, also legacy Skullgrin, where is he?

    • @PlatinumKnight-je3vy
      @PlatinumKnight-je3vy ปีที่แล้ว

      The best use for the Skids mould in my opinion was the Crankcase retool, it felt like it was at its best with that one.

  • @omegamaximus1727
    @omegamaximus1727 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am glad that I did not pick up Legacy Skids , because I was afraid it was going to break on me during Transformation.

  • @Coiletron
    @Coiletron ปีที่แล้ว

    YES. Glad someone knocked the R.E.D. figures down a few pegs. Like why the hell would anyone want those damn things? Seriously transformer toys NEED to have purpose and that is TRANSFORMS.
    Breakdown was a let down when I bought him. I'm just gonna keep Menasor combined, never transforming the pieces. Just keep him that way.

  • @Bout_Dat_ActionMayne100
    @Bout_Dat_ActionMayne100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bulkhead shouldn’t be anywhere near this list

  • @Professorsoundwaves
    @Professorsoundwaves ปีที่แล้ว

    nailed it! Biggest let down for me were: Legacy's Breakdown, Wildrider, and Knockout's robot form!

  • @Riz_
    @Riz_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi PVP,
    When I saw the title of this video I knew that poor Arcee was going to be on this list, especially as you have taken many opportunities to bash the figure. She is one of my favourite figures I have collected over this year. I think she has one of the neatest alt modes and the transformation is fun to do. Of course I have no other attachment to the character because I only watched Transformers G1. Perhaps this is why she doesn't offend me.

  • @ethan4739
    @ethan4739 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah yes, PrimeVsPrime, the a$$-whooper.

  • @LorcanWoosteralt
    @LorcanWoosteralt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think Wildrider was that bad, compared to his retool Breakdown. Not great, not good, just mediocre at best, while Breakdown is just okay at best.
    A shame that their Legacy figures are to date, the only official figures of them that are faithful to their G1 cartoon character models, but I feel like they (and Dead End) are better than Legacy Skids.

    • @PrimeVsPrime
      @PrimeVsPrime  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree wildrider isn’t as bad as breakdown but for the price point still not great in comparison to other deluxes

    • @LorcanWoosteralt
      @LorcanWoosteralt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PrimeVsPrime I agree,

  • @dkkanofkash8798
    @dkkanofkash8798 ปีที่แล้ว

    Legacy Arcee isn't a bad figure, just really, REALLY, REALLY disappointing. So disappointing that it's bad, especially when the mold works so much better for Road Rocket.