Thank you Shehzad for hosting Aafia Sidiqui's lawyer, Clive Smith, on your platform, and thank you for contributing to our cause. We are forever grateful to you for taking the time, especially on such short notice, to engage in a conversation with Clive Smith.
Thanks a lot for having Aafias spokesperson in your show n for clarification of so many myths n facts,its really a treat to watch,what a wonderful person Clive is 👍 may we have Aafia back asap with Allah's blessings
There are many versions of Afia story, and so many grey areas. People can choose their sides based on what they want to believe. Imo, she was involved in nefarious, extremism activities and guilty of few terrible things, but I think CIA pinned down entire burden on her later.
Your PM had travel ban for his terrorist activities, any thoughts abt that? At least we don’t elect them for PM office. Aince you hve so much research on terrorists write a thesis on Hindutva terrorists aswell.
I think your comment is very logical As much one reads up, she was up to something seriously dangerous, but she has been unjustly blamed for things also she didn't do perhaps. That's unfair.
Thank you for this Shehzad. I've been following her case (like most people) but this is the most comprehensive one - with the right and much needed questions asked. Amazing.
This is an eye-opener for me. I was in school during the Musharaf era and wrongly believed all these people were terrorists. I am so ashamed of not looking into this earlier. This is horrifying. But thanks, TPE, for making this podcast.
یہی تو ہمارا مسئلہ ہے کہ جب ہمارے اپنے ہمیں کوئ بات بتاتے ہیں ( خصوصاً اگر انکا حلیہ اسلامی ہو یا تعلق کسی مدرسے سے ہو) ہم اپنوں پر یقین نہیں کرتے لیکن جب غیر گوری چمڑی آکر ہمیں ہمارے ہی حقائق بتاے تو پھر ہماری آنکھیں کھل جاتیں ہیں ۔اور بہت سے لوگوں کی آنکھوں پر ابھی بھی پٹیاں بندھی ہوئی ہیں۔
Sir I watched Muzammil Shah's video on this topic. That video lacked sources and references and thanks to you that you have brought the real research here.:🙏🙏🙏
It all seems so obvious about Amjad's involvement in Afia's misfortune. He should be the number one suspect of getting her and HIS OWN children into trouble.
Next, do an episode on Junaid Hafeez. How different is his incarceration from Dr Afia’s? Sadly, almost all Pakistani voices raise the issue of Dr Afia, but steer clear of Junaid.
Shahzad is unlike those pseudo intellectuals , for us liberals doing a show on Afia is harder than talking of Junaid. In all honesty. But no one should be unjustly kept in prison, even if I don't agree with their ideology.
@@durranikabul9067 Not talking about myself dear Durrani, I would love to contribute just, so, more of my countrymen would understand what has been discussed in the podcast
Salam. Amazing video Shehzad. I'm so very proud of you. You've shown that you really do stand up for your principles. I was really worried how this podcast was going to go but I'm glad that you pulled through as you have done before. The back and forth was nice. Humourous at times. Inquisitive as well. Good stuff. May Allah reward you with everything good. JazakAllah kher. Fee Amaan Allah.
Clive Smith is the Man!!! Clive is from those very few people who fight for actual injustice.. my faith in humanity is just restored by seeing this man... He such a gentleman. And Clive if you're reading this, i want to tell you that you're very strong person with very hard balls😅 and 98% of all the young people around the world don't have those guts that you got .. And Shehzad Bhai,,, kesy kr lety ho tum aesy kaaam? Piyar ho tum kasmey❤
MashAllah Shehzad bhai you are amazing with the words and knowledge. the way quotes american history events against an american lawyer show how well aware you are. lots of prayers for you. keep up this work . ❣
Shehzad... its 4 in the morning as i finished watching this podcast. It was very well done and you are doing a yeoman's job for Afia. I heard a different version from Syed Muzzamil Shah; who i think quoted Seymour Hersh or some other prominent journos who vouch that Afia was indeed guilty. When too many versions of the story is retold and embellished to suit different audiences, conspiracy becomes the absolute truth. Thanks to Clive for being such a compassionate soul. I wish Afia Siddiqui gets released.
Clive Stafford Smith's insights in this video regarding Dr. Aafia Siddiqui’s case are both eye-opening and deeply concerning. The legal intricacies and human rights violations presented reveal a troubling narrative about justice and accountability, particularly for those caught in the web of international politics. Dr. Aafia’s story highlights the complexities of the U.S. legal system and its treatment of individuals accused of terrorism, often without due process. Stafford Smith’s articulate defense not only underscores the flaws in her prosecution but also sheds light on the broader implications for civil liberties and the presumption of innocence. Moreover, the emotional weight of Dr. Aafia’s situation is palpable. Her case raises critical questions about the ethical responsibilities of legal representatives, the role of the media, and the societal impact of framing individuals as enemies rather than as human beings deserving of fair treatment. It compels us to reflect on how narratives are shaped in the court of public opinion and the lasting repercussions of such portrayals. Listening to Stafford Smith, one can’t help but feel a sense of urgency to advocate for justice not only for Dr. Aafia Siddiqui but for all individuals whose voices have been marginalized in similar circumstances. This video serves as a vital reminder of the need for vigilance in safeguarding human rights and the principles of justice in our increasingly polarized world. The dialogue around this case must continue, pushing for accountability and reform while amplifying the stories of those who remain voiceless.
JazakAllah Khair 🤲 brother... You have done a great job here. I have been criticizing you many times, however ❤ Burrayi jitni bhi barri ho Achayi ke saamne choti hee lagti hai ❤❤❤ BarakAllahu Feekum 💐
Shehzad can you please edit a clip where Clive is advising how we ought to write letters to the White House and those that are intended to reach Aafia? Thank you for having The Thor of Reprieve on your show.
First time since her incarceration I feel that she might be innocent. That is a really mighty might and if I am a juror in the court, I might’ve decided in her favor now.
An amazing podcast. This has cleared so many questions for so many people. You have truely outdone yourself this time mate. But Shehzad Man utd? I always thought of u as a reasonable person but u have let a lot of people down 😅. Btw, Congratulations on the southern district of new York award 😂
Wow! Before listening to this poscast, I was so anti-Aafia Siddiqui mainly due to the support that was extended to her by the likes of Jamat-e-Islami and all the relegious parties. This has really put the whole thing in a new light and forced me to re-evaluate my position despite the support from relegious parties that they give to her. For me she was just a tool by the agencies to whip up anti-american sentiment in Pakistan but this has really opened my eyes. I hope if this guy is right she gets released on priority and hopefully unite with her children
Mr. Stafford Smith seems to be a very learned and empathetic person. Despite that, I don't find his narrative building on this case to be sufficient to counteract the case against Aafia Siddiqui. I'm glad there was some pushback in this podcast.
The question that remains unanswered is WHY was this woman on the CIAs and FBIs radar in the first place? Yes the whole arrest and prosecution was a sham and she deserves to be freed but DO NOT portray her as a pure innocent
@mariamtee yes that seems likely, but the case isn't as simple as it was made out to be. Nor was she the mother of Alqaeda nor was she an innocent bystander framed by her husband. Nonetheless, the ordeal she went through and is still going through is unimaginable and unforgivable. I hope she gets pardoned and receives proper medical treatment soon.
There are a lot of highly-qualified Pakistanis living a good life in USA. There's absolutely zero reason for US to go against her and imprison her. Pakistani establishment is terrible but there's a reason they let US punish Afia. I am a Pakistani but if you go through her case as a neutral, then you would come to the same conclusion: she was guilty.
this was a really good interview. But i think it still leaves some questions unanswered.... Nobody likes an innocent being punished but there are many aspects about this lady that do point to she being a fundamentalist radical with violent tendencies (e.g. why would she open an p o box for an alqaeda terrorist??) I also think its not fully fair to her former husband to say that he(a well educated Dr. himself) implicated her in 'terrorism charges' just because he got divorced. If the courtesy of fair representation should be extended to her, a convicted felon, i think her husband deserves the same to say the least.
Great video... Highly informative and insightful. Though you missed my question.. some people including syed muzammil claimed she didnt fight her case, and refused to have a lawyer. It would have been nice to know the truth about that. But still a wonderful podcast. One of your very best. 👍
She did go after her legal team in the New York trial. We addressed it without directly talking about it when I mentioned her attacks during the trial and Clive spoke about her mental health
She was a brillant and highly educated woman. Our world could have benefitted from her talents. Then, how did she get into this mess? 'Victim' and 'Blame' can come later. Let's begin with...... How did she get into this mess? Research scholars interviewing her may get us some vital insights on human mind. Especially since we are creating AI and Robots in the image of our own mind.
As a Bangladeshi... I think pakistani log moulvi type hogi... Or radical Islamist hogi.. Lekin shehzad vai is Different... And open minded... Or engineer ali mirza nam ka or ek banda hey o bhi mujhe moulvi o sey alag lagta hae... Love for you from bangladesh... Plz arrange a podcast regarding 1971 history of separation..!! With a neutral point of view. ❤❤❤
“Oi Gday mate, reckon you’re gonna get shafted by both the local lot and the overseas blokes!” Love from aus in bogan lang. May Allah protect you shezad ameen suma ameen
Great podcast I’ve always wondered what the story was here and after years have some insights on what happened. It is criminal to just abduct and torture someone based on such flimsy evidence and I hope that the US government is held accountable for their actions as well as the Pakistani government for doing nothing to save their own citizen
Thoroughly enjoyed the podcast, as it was enlightening from both sides. But, responding to the question regarding Aafia-Ammar's marriage, Clive couldn't really denounced the claims of FBI on logical grounds. I listened to it twice but didn't find any logic in between. Your pov, Shehzad bhai?
Definately, he knows things about Afia. However, being her lawyer, he will not surely share the opponent views on her case. He needs to defend his client. If he accepts any wrong doings by her, his argumenrs will be used against him in the court.
$70k transfer reminds me of my husbands uncle who transferred 80k into his account because he became paranoid that his wife would blow it all away and wanted to keep it hidden from her. Desi men and money situation can be weird
Because it’s not a speech it’s a conversation. And he’s said the same on other podcasts, would not be constructive to just have him repeat the same things people have heard from him before
Shahzad - great interview Now do this please: Do an Urdu version of this. . . a simple - NO OPINION - just the Afia Siddiqui Lawyer version of the issue. I tell you 80 percent of ppl didn't understand due to lack of the Eng lang skills
This was a great podcast Shahzad, but I just wish you would stop finishing his sentences, you are generally a great host, but here your eagerness was a bit over the top.
You also need to see a documentary on HBO regarding Abu Zubaida (hope I typed name right). He was cooperating with FBI, even recognized Mukhtar (Khaled Shaikh Muhammad), but CIA donkeys did what they always do - James Bond complex - and unnecessarily tortured him for many months. After seeing that documentary, I started to cry for Abu Zubaida. Love to you from 🇮🇳
How can a comedian + intellectual have connections with such high-profile folks? Shahzad, how do you do it? :) (PS: Not being sarcastic, offensive or allusive to anything. Rather, just trying to understand how networking works. Thanks)
@@ThePakistanExperience True that! :) On a serious note, just listening to you is sometimes so therapeutic and meanwhile the brain subconsciously learns a lot from you. :) The way you think about stuff, and the way you articulate things. Also, I must say that I disagree with you sometimes when you give women some biased leniency and edge in some things, but I think everybody's lived experience is different. Thanks
Please talk less during interview and let the guest speak. It bothers when you interrupt. But apart from that an amazing topic and amazing effort to bring to light the facts.
It is frustrating and infuriating how most Pakistanis gloss over the excesses of Pervez Musharraf who, by his own admission, sold innocent men women and children to the US for dollars. May he rot in the deepest pits of hell along with everyone who abetted him and all those who continue to idolise him. How do you even live with yourselves knowing all this?
I Generally love Shehzad's podcasts. But today I felt just to prove that he knows and he's done his research he kept on cutting the guest and kept on interjecting. I mean we know you are a learned person just chill let him speak and tell the stories.
Shahzad thank you for the interview, but please let the person you are asking questions speak and answer without interruption of jokes, facts or finishing his sentences.
@@ThePakistanExperience I appreciate the format of conversation and find it engaging. As a listener who enjoys downloading and listening during my commute, I noticed that the flow of speech was somewhat disrupted by frequent interruptions. Please consider this as constructive feedback, aimed at enhancing the listening experience.
I normally really like your content, but the jokes in between were extremely off putting. i have never sympathised with Aafia Siddiqui, and this podcast somewhat changed my perspective of her, but your jokes in between her harrowing account trivialised what she has been through. Also, insnt Aafia an American citizen? if she is then why should theyPakistani gov be pleading her case and asking for her release?
Love you bro but this was a little hard to follow this because of the constant interruptions . You obviously know a lot about the case but we don’t and it became hard to follow when you completed his sentences for him
1:53:40 Mr Smith believes whats happening to Imran Khan is a disaster and is happy that the US Congress tells the ISI not to kill him, but here we have Mr Shahzad abusing Imran Khan day in and day out. I hope Shahzad learns something fron this.
Mai aap kee terhan zehni ghulam toh nahee hoon Kay jo Gora Bol dai woh maan loon I know more about Pakistani politics than him. And you seem to know even less than him.
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Thank you Shehzad for hosting Aafia Sidiqui's lawyer, Clive Smith, on your platform, and thank you for contributing to our cause. We are forever grateful to you for taking the time, especially on such short notice, to engage in a conversation with Clive Smith.
Thank you for making it happen 🙌
Bhai plz yaar apna socho kya ker rahey ho u r Pakistan ka BHAGAT SINGH
@@ThePakistanExperienceMy opinion for your next Podcast - - I would like to see your podcast with Tarek Fatah Sir.
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Tarek Fateh is dead
Tariq fateh is dead bro@@Chris6667z
This is an A+ effort into removing the fog and disclosing all the facts. Great job to both!
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Shehzad youre doing great. youre sane voice of Pakistan.. please Azad kashmir ke issues b discuss kerin. love from Rawalpindi
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Bhikari kaum kashmir POK wala rehta h bas
Thanks a lot for having Aafias spokesperson in your show n for clarification of so many myths n facts,its really a treat to watch,what a wonderful person Clive is 👍 may we have Aafia back asap with Allah's blessings
Thank you for asking my question Shehzad. I hope and pray for the day that US govt could be sued and proven guilty.
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There are many versions of Afia story, and so many grey areas. People can choose their sides based on what they want to believe. Imo, she was involved in nefarious, extremism activities and guilty of few terrible things, but I think CIA pinned down entire burden on her later.
Your PM had travel ban for his terrorist activities, any thoughts abt that? At least we don’t elect them for PM office. Aince you hve so much research on terrorists write a thesis on Hindutva terrorists aswell.
I think your comment is very logical
As much one reads up, she was up to something seriously dangerous, but she has been unjustly blamed for things also she didn't do perhaps. That's unfair.
Yes…i think she was made a scapegoat for alotta things..but what she was made to go through…was inhumane..and how the kids were traumatised
Shehzad , you have my respect brother ! God bless you. Thank you for hosting him. We really needed it. Keep up the good work!
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Thank you for this Shehzad. I've been following her case (like most people) but this is the most comprehensive one - with the right and much needed questions asked. Amazing.
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Wow what a discourse. Kudos to the Gora for being so open and blunt about how the Americans are a complete dirtbag!
This is an eye-opener for me. I was in school during the Musharaf era and wrongly believed all these people were terrorists. I am so ashamed of not looking into this earlier. This is horrifying.
But thanks, TPE, for making this podcast.
Zaman e jhaliyat
یہی تو ہمارا مسئلہ ہے کہ جب ہمارے اپنے ہمیں کوئ بات بتاتے ہیں ( خصوصاً اگر انکا حلیہ اسلامی ہو یا تعلق کسی مدرسے سے ہو) ہم اپنوں پر یقین نہیں کرتے لیکن جب غیر گوری چمڑی آکر ہمیں ہمارے ہی حقائق بتاے تو پھر ہماری آنکھیں کھل جاتیں ہیں ۔اور بہت سے لوگوں کی آنکھوں پر ابھی بھی پٹیاں بندھی ہوئی ہیں۔
Sir I watched Muzammil Shah's video on this topic. That video lacked sources and references and thanks to you that you have brought the real research here.:🙏🙏🙏
He also cited sources and references.
He missed a lot of things he didn't even did basic information
@@ThePakistanExperience yeah you are right, but making a whole video from a single article of declan walsh does not show all side.
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Maybe you should have him on this topic... as he came to very different conclusions
Muzamil Sha's podcost was absolute fabrication, merely relying on one article.
It all seems so obvious about Amjad's involvement in Afia's misfortune. He should be the number one suspect of getting her and HIS OWN children into trouble.
Full support afia
Achi baat thanks to shezad for cause afia case
Free Palestine
Free Afia sisters
This is really intriguing conversation 👍🏼 great content.
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Watched the entire podcast, and it was quite informative. Thank you for explaining this case, which was very confusing to most of us
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Thanks Shehzad sb , lot of confusion cleared
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Clive has a great sense of humour. I loved the banter!
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Next, do an episode on Junaid Hafeez. How different is his incarceration from Dr Afia’s? Sadly, almost all Pakistani voices raise the issue of Dr Afia, but steer clear of Junaid.
You are right brother
hypocrites will defend terrorists but not rationalists
Shahzad is unlike those pseudo intellectuals , for us liberals doing a show on Afia is harder than talking of Junaid. In all honesty. But no one should be unjustly kept in prison, even if I don't agree with their ideology.
Have Been eagerly waiting for this episode, finally
Finally youve done this !!
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very informative video on our innocent sister aafia siddiqui with her lawyer...
just want to see aafia free 😭
I am not sure how much would it cost to do urdu subtitles, but I will bear the cost HAPPILY
I’ll be cheaper if you go school and learn the most important language.
@@durranikabul9067 Not talking about myself dear Durrani, I would love to contribute just, so, more of my countrymen would understand what has been discussed in the podcast
I'll pitch in too
Not in a country where 50 % population has not been to school @@durranikabul9067
@@durranikabul9067 by the way, you should have paid more attention at school, check your comment and correct your mistake 😂😂😂
Urdu Subtitle should be added to the podcast
Salam.
Amazing video Shehzad. I'm so very proud of you. You've shown that you really do stand up for your principles. I was really worried how this podcast was going to go but I'm glad that you pulled through as you have done before.
The back and forth was nice. Humourous at times. Inquisitive as well.
Good stuff. May Allah reward you with everything good. JazakAllah kher.
Fee Amaan Allah.
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Few days ago i saw Qaiser Raja’s tweet that no liberal and secular would meet Afia’s lawyer, i wonder ke ab konsa drama karega lol.
He's a joker.
lol that guy is a fraud course seller. why is he even in the conversation?
He only bully and troll people 😂😂😂 Pakistani version of andhbhakt
That charlatan? He has no comparisosn with Shahzad. Cheap man.
@@G-raa-c2k I am not a fan of Shahzad either, I adore Faisal Warraich kind of peope but Raja g has no comparison when it comes to hating someone lol.
Clive Smith is the Man!!! Clive is from those very few people who fight for actual injustice.. my faith in humanity is just restored by seeing this man... He such a gentleman.
And Clive if you're reading this, i want to tell you that you're very strong person with very hard balls😅 and 98% of all the young people around the world don't have those guts that you got ..
And Shehzad Bhai,,, kesy kr lety ho tum aesy kaaam? Piyar ho tum kasmey❤
What Islam says about humanity
It divides world btw believers and non believers
MashAllah Shehzad bhai
you are amazing with the words and knowledge. the way quotes american history events against an american lawyer show how well aware you are.
lots of prayers for you. keep up this work . ❣
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Been waiting for so long. Listened to it for 11 minutes, already lost count how many times he's interrupted. Please consider letting him talk.
Please watch all the other videos where he talks uninterrupted for an hour if you wanted a speech. We don’t do that on TPE.
What a gem! Restores one's faith in humanity!
Shahzad bhai ap ne haq ada kr dia is interview ka.stay strong and stay blessed.bohat dil khush hua sun k
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Shehzad... its 4 in the morning as i finished watching this podcast. It was very well done and you are doing a yeoman's job for Afia. I heard a different version from Syed Muzzamil Shah; who i think quoted Seymour Hersh or some other prominent journos who vouch that Afia was indeed guilty. When too many versions of the story is retold and embellished to suit different audiences, conspiracy becomes the absolute truth. Thanks to Clive for being such a compassionate soul. I wish Afia Siddiqui gets released.
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Clive Stafford Smith's insights in this video regarding Dr. Aafia Siddiqui’s case are both eye-opening and deeply concerning. The legal intricacies and human rights violations presented reveal a troubling narrative about justice and accountability, particularly for those caught in the web of international politics.
Dr. Aafia’s story highlights the complexities of the U.S. legal system and its treatment of individuals accused of terrorism, often without due process. Stafford Smith’s articulate defense not only underscores the flaws in her prosecution but also sheds light on the broader implications for civil liberties and the presumption of innocence.
Moreover, the emotional weight of Dr. Aafia’s situation is palpable. Her case raises critical questions about the ethical responsibilities of legal representatives, the role of the media, and the societal impact of framing individuals as enemies rather than as human beings deserving of fair treatment. It compels us to reflect on how narratives are shaped in the court of public opinion and the lasting repercussions of such portrayals.
Listening to Stafford Smith, one can’t help but feel a sense of urgency to advocate for justice not only for Dr. Aafia Siddiqui but for all individuals whose voices have been marginalized in similar circumstances. This video serves as a vital reminder of the need for vigilance in safeguarding human rights and the principles of justice in our increasingly polarized world. The dialogue around this case must continue, pushing for accountability and reform while amplifying the stories of those who remain voiceless.
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JazakAllah Khair 🤲 brother... You have done a great job here. I have been criticizing you many times, however ❤ Burrayi jitni bhi barri ho Achayi ke saamne choti hee lagti hai ❤❤❤ BarakAllahu Feekum 💐
Great Work Shehzad. Much Appreciated
Is the camera for Clive is not of the same quality of yours?
It is
Shehzad can you please edit a clip where Clive is advising how we ought to write letters to the White House and those that are intended to reach Aafia?
Thank you for having The Thor of Reprieve on your show.
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First time since her incarceration I feel that she might be innocent. That is a really mighty might and if I am a juror in the court, I might’ve decided in her favor now.
Glad to see such well informed host! ❤
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An amazing podcast. This has cleared so many questions for so many people. You have truely outdone yourself this time mate.
But Shehzad Man utd? I always thought of u as a reasonable person but u have let a lot of people down 😅.
Btw, Congratulations on the southern district of new York award 😂
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Wow! Before listening to this poscast, I was so anti-Aafia Siddiqui mainly due to the support that was extended to her by the likes of Jamat-e-Islami and all the relegious parties. This has really put the whole thing in a new light and forced me to re-evaluate my position despite the support from relegious parties that they give to her. For me she was just a tool by the agencies to whip up anti-american sentiment in Pakistan but this has really opened my eyes. I hope if this guy is right she gets released on priority and hopefully unite with her children
Such an inspiring gentleman. Great podcast, loved every second of it.
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This video deserves more views...
Mr. Stafford Smith seems to be a very learned and empathetic person. Despite that, I don't find his narrative building on this case to be sufficient to counteract the case against Aafia Siddiqui. I'm glad there was some pushback in this podcast.
The question that remains unanswered is WHY was this woman on the CIAs and FBIs radar in the first place? Yes the whole arrest and prosecution was a sham and she deserves to be freed but DO NOT portray her as a pure innocent
Her ex Amjad Khan was obviously the culprit but framed her to save his own behind
@mariamtee yes that seems likely, but the case isn't as simple as it was made out to be. Nor was she the mother of Alqaeda nor was she an innocent bystander framed by her husband. Nonetheless, the ordeal she went through and is still going through is unimaginable and unforgivable. I hope she gets pardoned and receives proper medical treatment soon.
There are a lot of highly-qualified Pakistanis living a good life in USA. There's absolutely zero reason for US to go against her and imprison her. Pakistani establishment is terrible but there's a reason they let US punish Afia. I am a Pakistani but if you go through her case as a neutral, then you would come to the same conclusion: she was guilty.
Aafia clearly got thrown under the bus by a scorned ex. Ties up with her son blaming his father for abusing him.
you should make reels of what we as Pakistanis can do to help her by sending emails to WH, we all can share it and try to make it viral
this was a really good interview. But i think it still leaves some questions unanswered.... Nobody likes an innocent being punished but there are many aspects about this lady that do point to she being a fundamentalist radical with violent tendencies (e.g. why would she open an p o box for an alqaeda terrorist??) I also think its not fully fair to her former husband to say that he(a well educated Dr. himself) implicated her in 'terrorism charges' just because he got divorced. If the courtesy of fair representation should be extended to her, a convicted felon, i think her husband deserves the same to say the least.
Great video... Highly informative and insightful.
Though you missed my question.. some people including syed muzammil claimed she didnt fight her case, and refused to have a lawyer. It would have been nice to know the truth about that.
But still a wonderful podcast. One of your very best. 👍
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She did go after her legal team in the New York trial. We addressed it without directly talking about it when I mentioned her attacks during the trial and Clive spoke about her mental health
Great work Shehzad
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She was a brillant and highly educated woman. Our world could have benefitted from her talents. Then, how did she get into this mess?
'Victim' and 'Blame' can come later.
Let's begin with......
How did she get into this mess?
Research scholars interviewing her may get us some vital insights on human mind. Especially since we are creating AI and Robots in the image of our own mind.
Let the guest speak , we know you knows all😂😂😂
The most hilarious guest, man’s got humour.
As a Bangladeshi... I think pakistani log moulvi type hogi... Or radical Islamist hogi.. Lekin shehzad vai is Different...
And open minded... Or engineer ali mirza nam ka or ek banda hey o bhi mujhe moulvi o sey alag lagta hae...
Love for you from bangladesh...
Plz arrange a podcast regarding 1971 history of separation..!!
With a neutral point of view. ❤❤❤
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Bhutto, Mujib and Yahya Khan - 1971 Bangladesh kee Sachayee kya hay? - Pakistan Lost - #TPE
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Your Bangladeshi are more radical deobandis Pakistani are chilled by deobandi radicals has been curse on Pakistan
Pls put mail IDs as discussed in podcast here. Would love to write mails to WH and Ms. Aafia.
We have. They are in the description too
“Oi Gday mate, reckon you’re gonna get shafted by both the local lot and the overseas blokes!”
Love from aus in bogan lang.
May Allah protect you shezad ameen suma ameen
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Very long podcast, yet interesting discussions and credible guest 🌹🙏
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Great podcast I’ve always wondered what the story was here and after years have some insights on what happened. It is criminal to just abduct and torture someone based on such flimsy evidence and I hope that the US government is held accountable for their actions as well as the Pakistani government for doing nothing to save their own citizen
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Great interview but pls can the host stop interrupting Mr Clive? It became confusing for us viewers to keep up.
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Ask your friend "nietzsche's disciple" i.e syed muzammil to make his record straight about afia Siddiqui.
Thoroughly enjoyed the podcast, as it was enlightening from both sides. But, responding to the question regarding Aafia-Ammar's marriage, Clive couldn't really denounced the claims of FBI on logical grounds. I listened to it twice but didn't find any logic in between. Your pov, Shehzad bhai?
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Great work Shehzad Bhai.
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Great job!
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Definately, he knows things about Afia. However, being her lawyer, he will not surely share the opponent views on her case. He needs to defend his client. If he accepts any wrong doings by her, his argumenrs will be used against him in the court.
He also knows that i am sure, so maybe those proofs could be irrefutable. So he is being clear on those.
If you watch his interview with Al Jazeera he divulges many more horrifying details and paints Aafia aa an extremely tragic figure.
Control yourself mr host . Don't answer questions he is not asking every chance you get.
Though I am against your ideology and what you preach I appreciate you for doing an episode on Afia
Great job Shehzad!
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Thanks sahzad for this effort😢
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$70k transfer reminds me of my husbands uncle who transferred 80k into his account because he became paranoid that his wife would blow it all away and wanted to keep it hidden from her. Desi men and money situation can be weird
If you can't do the time, then
Don't do the crime
Why don't you allow your guest to speak at a stretch without interference? It breaks the thought process of the guest as also we listeners.
Because it’s not a speech it’s a conversation. And he’s said the same on other podcasts, would not be constructive to just have him repeat the same things people have heard from him before
@@ThePakistanExperienceyou don’t know what he will say so don’t assume
Shahzad - great interview
Now do this please:
Do an Urdu version of this. . . a simple - NO OPINION - just the Afia Siddiqui Lawyer version of the issue.
I tell you 80 percent of ppl didn't understand due to lack of the Eng lang skills
Great job brother 👏🏻❤
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Great job. Keep it up
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This was a great podcast Shahzad, but I just wish you would stop finishing his sentences, you are generally a great host, but here your eagerness was a bit over the top.
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Only king can deliver these podcasts
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King karlay ga 🤣
Thanks for so informative video
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You also need to see a documentary on HBO regarding Abu Zubaida (hope I typed name right). He was cooperating with FBI, even recognized Mukhtar (Khaled Shaikh Muhammad), but CIA donkeys did what they always do - James Bond complex - and unnecessarily tortured him for many months. After seeing that documentary, I started to cry for Abu Zubaida. Love to you from 🇮🇳
Please note that he is Aafia’s defence lawyer. Can we have a counter interview with prosecution team ? 😅
Brilliant work 🎉
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How can a comedian + intellectual have connections with such high-profile folks? Shahzad, how do you do it? :)
(PS: Not being sarcastic, offensive or allusive to anything. Rather, just trying to understand how networking works. Thanks)
I don’t. They reached out to me to come on the podcast 🙈
@@ThePakistanExperience But still, how can it be so congenial and sounds like you both go way back? :)
Ye bus meri vibe hay log easy hojatay hain 🤣
@@ThePakistanExperience True that! :) On a serious note, just listening to you is sometimes so therapeutic and meanwhile the brain subconsciously learns a lot from you. :) The way you think about stuff, and the way you articulate things. Also, I must say that I disagree with you sometimes when you give women some biased leniency and edge in some things, but I think everybody's lived experience is different. Thanks
Phir jb hum naara lgatay hain to logon ko bura lgta hai
“America ne kuttay paalay!
Wardi valay! wardi valay!”
Please talk less during interview and let the guest speak. It bothers when you interrupt. But apart from that an amazing topic and amazing effort to bring to light the facts.
It’s not an interview
Thanks
It is frustrating and infuriating how most Pakistanis gloss over the excesses of Pervez Musharraf who, by his own admission, sold innocent men women and children to the US for dollars. May he rot in the deepest pits of hell along with everyone who abetted him and all those who continue to idolise him. How do you even live with yourselves knowing all this?
You talk shit MC MF he only handed over Aq terrorist from ran from 🇦🇫to Pakistan had prize money so don’t chat shit bc if you don’t know madesachap
Does anyone know what book / publication is being referred to in this podcast?
I believe “In the Line of Fire” by Pervaiz Musharraf, majorly.
@@shifaburhan Did Clive himself write a book or document the Aafia case anywhere?
@@shifaburhan Thats not it
Finally got the video and cleared out many myth
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Shehzad, my brother in Christ, why is the guest camera so out of focus?
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Didn’t focus didn’t realize. Hiring a new videographer soon
I Generally love Shehzad's podcasts. But today I felt just to prove that he knows and he's done his research he kept on cutting the guest and kept on interjecting. I mean we know you are a learned person just chill let him speak and tell the stories.
Not to prove anything. To avoid repetition from other podcasts he’s done.
@@ThePakistanExperience Just felt it in some places otherwise really enjoyed the podcast and do love your work. Keep up the good work.
Thank you ❤️
Shahzad invited this guy over just to broadcast that he spent a couple years in the US
Maybe for you that would be a life achievement, for me it’s not a big deal that I need to show off
Are you for real? Rofl. Kabhi embassay nai dekhi kia US ki? US tu kia dekha ho ga. Weird comment
Meanwhile faizan used chatgpt to help him comment on the video 😂
@@11114striker Eda tu Shakespeare da khabba tatta
waiting for your video on ismail dahiri confession about benazir Bhutto murder.
Shahzad thank you for the interview, but please let the person you are asking questions speak and answer without interruption of jokes, facts or finishing his sentences.
It’s not an interview. Check our bio we don’t do interviews. We do conversations
@@ThePakistanExperience I appreciate the format of conversation and find it engaging. As a listener who enjoys downloading and listening during my commute, I noticed that the flow of speech was somewhat disrupted by frequent interruptions. Please consider this as constructive feedback, aimed at enhancing the listening experience.
Thanks for the feedback 🙌
I normally really like your content, but the jokes in between were extremely off putting. i have never sympathised with Aafia Siddiqui, and this podcast somewhat changed my perspective of her, but your jokes in between her harrowing account trivialised what she has been through.
Also, insnt Aafia an American citizen? if she is then why should theyPakistani gov be pleading her case and asking for her release?
Why not Clive’s jokes then? Why just mine?
@@ThePakistanExperience Don't get me started on him.
No she's only Pakistani citizen
Shahzad keeps on interrupting the guest. Does not even let him complete a single sentence. This is so irritating.
Love you bro but this was a little hard to follow this because of the constant interruptions . You obviously know a lot about the case but we don’t and it became hard to follow when you completed his sentences for him
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Well worth watching ❤❤❤
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1:53:40 Mr Smith believes whats happening to Imran Khan is a disaster and is happy that the US Congress tells the ISI not to kill him, but here we have Mr Shahzad abusing Imran Khan day in and day out. I hope Shahzad learns something fron this.
Mai aap kee terhan zehni ghulam toh nahee hoon Kay jo Gora Bol dai woh maan loon
I know more about Pakistani politics than him. And you seem to know even less than him.
Love From INDIANS 🇮🇳🤍💌🌹💖
Proud of u. Shahezad 🥰
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Clive S Smith please read more about Pakistan ISI tango with Mexican and Columbia Drug cartel ....
Feedback: don't talk over your guest in your.enthusiasm ! So much i couldn't understand because both of your were talking at the same time!
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Simply : love
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