i like how the watcher says "but you're human you never give up hope" that's probably the nicest thing someone has said about us it's usually just "puny dumb humans" thanks watcher you cool
I like the idea that humanity is known on a cosmic scale for a "never show me the odds" mindset. Gurren Lagann is one of my favorite series, and it essentially revolves around this very concept :)
@@oscarmccormack1611 Doctor Who and Star Trek both go to that "humans are the best" thing. Which is probably commercially wise, given that most viewers of Doctor Who and Star Trek are human,
I feel there was a possibility of a wild fight between Ultravision and Thanos but Thanos wasn’t expecting him to be smart enough to kill him first, Thanos is the type of guy who will talk to you about his origins and plan like how he did to Dr Strange in Infinity War
@@Pixel0429 he tortured Star Lord making him choose to kill Gamora, monologued to Thor and dramatically killing his brother which took quite a while, and even told Tony he knew who he was (making a personal connection how cute)
Ultron made a joke in AoU about villains who monologue their plans before attacking “I’m glad you asked that because I really wanted to take this time to explain my evil plan....” **blasts Tony**
Don’t know if anyone will see this, but I think Ultron lasering Thanos in half is predicated on how Thor was able to get the axe in his chest in Infinity War. Like Thanos totally had the ability to have a force field, make himself an illusion, wear more armor than just a tank top. But he didn’t. He was arrogant enough to think that nobody would just make a decisive killing blow. So Ultron did the logical thing and immediately went for the kill shot, just in case that might work, and crazy enough, it did.
@@142doddy I don’t think it is it’s just not utilised the best and the only time Thanos has all 6 and wasn’t being attacked straight away ,he destroyed them. Everything other time he has less than a second to react before being attacked
@@142doddy Much weaker than the Comic version, but not weak compared to everything else in the MCU. Ultron is the only one so far to use them to their full extent.
The Watcher: *vows to watch*. Proceeds to punch Ultron into different realities hahaha. Just love how he acts like a teenager watching his favourite movie, trying to talk to Hawkeye and Black Widow ahaha absolute gold!
To be fair, Ultron punched *him* into different realities, he had no control over that. The interference in this episode was forced upon him, he had nothing to do with it
I think with the whole laser beam thing that cut thanos in half, I saw it as vision uses the laser like superman non lethally because he’s got that human mindset while ultron just uses it like homelander and hasn’t a single bit of mercy in him.
@@ericaugust1501 they said that they don't work in the TVA, not other universes. The comics are the only thing that has said they don't work in different universes.
@@darthamalgamation so are you saying that the MCU has its own multiverse? As far as we know all the Marvel properties share the same multiverse. Including the MCU universe. It was likely just because these were written before Loki was, where they established this.
@@ericaugust1501 have you read the What If comics? The entire concept is a fun exercise to explore fun and weird possibilities that you could never do in the regular canon universe. The rules are either beyond malleable, inconsequential, or just don’t exist. I’m not saying this exudes poor writing in this particular medium but with this out there idea it’s more about the possibilities taking precedence over the how. The creator of the What If comics Roy Thomas wrote in that very first issue, “That’s the nice thing about the ‘What If’ idea. You can take it anywhere.” That’s the fun. You’re talking about a concept that birthed a story titled: “What If Iron Man had an eating problem rather than a drinking one?”
@@RJ-Ramen except they're really framing this particular series as taking place in the multiverse somewhat canon to the MCU? I could be wrong but looking at the similiarities in design with mainline MCU that's the vibe I'm getting
Anyone else notice that the fight after they capture an Ultron bot, they were climbing up the same pit that Tony, Bucky and Steve fought in in Civil War? I just loved the continuity there.
So if Loki hadn’t happened the TVA would’ve just zapped Ultron into their lobby where his stones are useless and basically reenact that scene from office space where they beat the everloving shit out of that printer
I think this type of universes are very different from what the main MCU timeline could develop into, like, maybe the multiverse was always there, but by avoiding the branching of the timeline, Kang's Variant managed to keep his Sacred timeline disconnected from the rest of the multiverse.
Other TH-camrs: “I know for a FACT this Easter egg references this.” James: “This Easter egg might be connected to this, might not be, just don’t blame me if isn’t and give me all the credit if it is 😎”
At high level, I like how he acquired the gems, but the split down the middle was a bit wacky for me. I think they turned Thanos into a goof one too many times in What If. Either have this one off moment, or the jokey Thanos in the Guardians episode. Other than that, I have no issues with this, it was terrific. Handicapped Ultron-Zola was super interesting. I loved how earnest Zola was in that situation and the dynamic between him and Nat.
I thoroughly feel like that how quick ultron would have dealt with Thanos. An AI with quicker reaction time and already knows about the stones because he himself was created from the one he’s powered by. He’s like the embodiment of the mind stone at that point
Yes, couldn't more. I also liked the dynamic of Zola with the heroes, I always like when previous villains have to work together with the heroes to survive. I also thought that the way Ultron kills Thanos was rather off-putting, though with the short lenght of the episode there wouldn't be many ways of doing it without looking contrived.
@@rodneyjones1991 That's ignoring how durable Thanos should be, he should not have been killed so easily, especially with five of the six infinity stones.
@@JoahTheThread5ive he wasn’t actively protecting himself with the stones. And it was the power of the stone that sliced him, not some regular laser lol. Thanos is very durable but never invulnerable. He’s been beaten up a few times
@@rodneyjones1991 His should be durable to not get killed by a blast from the mind. He can crush vibranium with his hands and take hits from Hulk. The mind stone should not be able to slice him in half like that.
I think they way they explained was that since he killed pretty much everything the universe was finally silent enough for a being on his level to hear the Watcher
@@reddeadspartan yeah I got that, but if the Watcher would have shut up! He could have, at least, delayed some of the destruction that Ultron si doing. Can the Watcher just stop thinking out loud?
What I found funny is that The Watcher's initial reaction seemed like he was reading his narration from a script, reached the part where Ultron sees him, and is like "wait, hold on, he does what now?"
Yeah the Ultron beating thanos was almost exactly the trunks slicing Frieza moment from DBZ where you go "uh oh it's the old big bad *Slice slice* nevermind he was dispatched in mere seconds"
Yeah but my problem is that if they keep doing that over and over and over. It will get played out like how future trunks became useless against cell. And later gohan himself became useless post cell arc. And in retrospect It diminishes the power I perceived thanos to have . Just like trunks and gohan become a footnote outside their own short-lived story arcs.
During the scene when Ultron and Uatu were fighting between universes, there was a planet that looked exactly like Mustafar, even with a 100% accurate Vader's castle.
Also, the planet they first appeared on where Ultron cleared away the forest in one go looked awfully like Felucia. Even down to the weird half bent-over trees.
Such an amazing episode, best one by far. I’ve always admired Ultron as a villain, partially cuz of James Spader’s epic voice but he’s just underrated imo. This episode absolutely proves the potential Ultron had and the chaos he could’ve made if he really did get the vision body and all infinity stones
If anything, Thanos is the one who's been redeemed. All of a sudden he doesn't seem so bad anymore. Especially with the right character (T'Challa Star Lord) to talk him down.
nah fuck that episode it was so stupid, you cant tell me that just cause Star Lord was Tchalla he somehow was able to talk down Thanos into not committing his plan into KILLING HALF THE UNIVERSE.
Next episode: evil Doctor Strange opens up a new dimension and just shoots Tony in the face with a glock for no reason whatsoever, and then goes about his business.
Also, when he's fighting The Watcher & literally eats a Galaxy, I legit screamed GALACTUS! That shot was really cool. This episode had some really good animation
In an alternate universe, Corn of Coblin has obtained all six infinity stone and has shucked EVERYONE. They called it “the shucking”, and everyone got shucked SO hard. It’s really poppin off now.
For me, this is a contender for favourite episode besides the Doctor Strange one. I adore messed up realities, and Ultron is one of my favourite Marvel villains. It’s good to see him back and doing more than what he did in Avengers Age of Ultron
That Hawkeye Francis joke shot me straight back to the Next Avengers: Heroes of Tomorrow animated movie (also covering the Age of Ultron storyline) where kid Pym clowns kid Hawkeye for the same reason. Not sure if it's a direct joke from the comics too, but I love the inclusion.
I'm still kinda salty that white vision in wandavisiok didn't reboot as some form of ultron to bring him back to the mcu. I know it won't happen but it would be neat if ultron send one drone to the mcu as a last ditch attempt to save his consciousness
@@mr.dr0bot731 Naw man. White vision was literally original vision body without the mind stone. They could have claimed that even though the process failed to complete, some amount of Ultron was still in there.
There is that one ultron head that appears to be activated in Homecoming, which implies Ultron still exists in the main universe. He's just stuck inside that head since Vision disabled his Internet connection.
One thing I did think was interesting, was it looks like due to the nature of the MCU multiverse branching from some core universe, apparently Infinity Stones from one universe can work in others. That's a departure from the comics as you've mentioned before re: the Fantastic Four.
My take on this was when the watcher says "This should not be possible." he is referring directly to the infinity stones. Ultron then says "Oh, but anything is possible in a multiverse." Which I think implies that this specific set of infinity stones does work in the multiverse? Just a theory though.
@@my4cc0unt that’s also what I was thinking. In a multiverse, even if there’s universe where they don’t work in other universes, that means there’s universes where they do. Still wish they’d said it though. It mucks with the rules they’ve established
So zombie Thanos with IG Vs Ultron with IG, who's IG will reign supreme? Then you have Supreme Strange and friends to round it off. Last episode is going to be bonkers!
@@TheDemontr1 Yeah I felt a return to Battleworld was where this was going to go once that Party Thor episode ended. The wastelands where Marvel Zombies and Age of Ultron (the comic version) were waiting to kill anyone exiled by Doom...and willing to fight each other as well.
Ross Marquand definitely sounded like he was trying to do James Spader's Ultron. You can tell by his cadence and how he enunciated things. Don't know what you guys are talking about.
Other languages like spanish are using Spader's voice actor for this Ultron. That shows that disney could they would have used all the real actors to repeat the voices and that Marquand was just doing a Spader voice. I dont know about other countries but in the Spain version of What if all the voices are the real ones from the spanish versions of the movies so its sounds great and not jarring.
I love how the scene where Ultron notices the Watcher is written like the Watcher is an actor reading a script and then realizes his that his character, the main protagonist, is about to die.
I think the "In your universe" argument for who the Watcher is talking to might not go that deep. The intro for every episode in the series includes the Watcher saying "I am *your* guide through these vast new realities". He's essentially telling tales to those who are only familiar with the original MCU Sacred Timeline, i.e. the audience, or, if you wanna stretch it, a denizen of that main timeline. It likely isn't meant to be taken literally and doesn't have anything to do with Strange. The Watcher is basically Rod Serling up until Ultron realizes he and the multiverse are physical things. Could even say it's teasing the fourth wall a little bit. Of course, Infinity Corn of Coblin will put all arguments to bed when he shows up next week
He is most definitely breaking the 4th wall and Ultron was too when he said “anything is possible in the multiverse”. Ultron might come back in Dr Strange 2
We got a proper Age of Ultron, y'all. Finally!! Ultron is hands down one of my absolute favorite comicbook villains ever & he was phenomenal in this. I was massively let down & disappointed in the movie version of Ultron. Hated that they made him do quips like almost every MCU character. Not a fan jokester Ultron I'm glad we FINALLY got a cold & calculating Ultron. Only wish they got James Spader back. He was the best part of the movie for me. His voice is just amazing. Hate that they killed off Thanos so easily but the Watcher fight made up for it in my opinion. That was just, WOW! Amazing stuff
You can’t get a funny man like james spader and not have him quip; whether you hate it or not spaders casting determined the personality of the character.
@@willvermillion1025 Spader is fantastic casting but I do remember reading somewhere that they made him a quipy character cause he was made by Tony Stark.
@@willvermillion1025 The entire movie seemed like wasted potential. All the ingredients for a great film were right there, it just needed (and deserved) better writing
I think my favourite part of the show's animation is whenever Uatu's doing something with his power and they actually use "Kirby Dots" in the animation, and I THINK so far they only use Kirby Dots in relation to Uatu. It's a fantastic nod to the co-creator Jack "The King" Kirby and his revolutionary artstyle. I also love how Uatu's as powerful (or nearly) as an entire Infinity Being. In the comics he's pretty badass. Though according to Marvel's unofficial skill rating, he has a 7 (Maxx = Godlike) rating in everything except "Fighting Skills", which is at a 1.... but seeing him throw down with Ultron here he didn't seem like a Fighting Skill = 1 guy to me. XD
This feels like the moment we discovered in episode 4 of Wanda Vision the whole purpose of the first three episodes. Now we know the whole purpose of this entire series. And damn is it amazing.
Those are easily the best episodes. They were the kinda stuff I was expecting from this type of show. Also, The whodunnit episode with Bad Bloke Hank Pym killing future Avengers was pretty good as well in my opinion
Yes it’s up! So much better than the original lol. Glad they took out the humor. So epic 1:25 the party Thor episode was actually supposed to be episode 5 which would’ve introduced ultron earlier but switch last minute
Cold & Calculating Ultron for the win! Only wish we got James Spader back. His Ultron voice was just amazing. Awesome to see my favorite Marvel villain done right, finally. My lil bro actually turned to me & was like, is he really that powerful? Yes, yes he is bro
Thank you, you fine gentlemen. You named Ultron's weapon correctly a double Lance, another You tube (shall remain unnamed) channel called it a double sword. The philistines
I never thought they'd top Doctor Strange Supreme. That was absolutely magnificent. But this one did for me. Ultron & The Watcher were absolutely phenomenal. This, Doctor Strange Supreme & the zombie episodes were the kinda stuff I wanted from a what if show. Also, the whodunnit mystery episode was pretty solid stuff.
The way I see it, Thor caught Thanos off guard with all the infinity stones and managed to land his axe in his chest. Iron Man was able to physically overpower Thanos for a few moments. Mantis was able to subdue his mind. It's just making clear, he's dangerous, but not invincible. You can catch him off guard, hit him hard enough to Injure him, behead him, slice his arm off etc etc Hes not invincible with the stones either, he has to use them first. Many Marvel characters are strong enough to kill him. It more or less confirms to me the reason Thanos didn't just take the stones right away. Because he'd be killed, so he made a plan. He also gave Loki the mind stone so it would be closer to the others. But Thanos would have to be brain dead to try and kill the ancient one without a good plan.
@@spipsdew6157 one palm slap and both of them are force ghosts. Maw is tough but man is he fragile, can't even survive the vacuum of space, pfft, what a scrub. Jokes aside Maw had an edge on Strange because strange didn't draw his power from the Dark Dimension. Funnily enough Strange seems to be more in line with find the best path that leads to a desired outcome. He's powerful but his biggest power is that he's willing to exploit the laws of time without breaking them. The ancient one has actual power beyond strange. Bearing in mind this is the current strange as we know him that'll soon change.
The editing making it looks like Uatu was terrified of the redcap/garden-gnome was incredible. Also, has yanking a USB early EVER caused actual problems in the real world? Or it is like needing to turn off all electronic devices during a takeoff?
0:11 When Mason says "Remember when life was better?" And James seems to give a natural sigh afterwards.... This hits differently because we're listening to two Australians who are in an indefinite lockdown.....
SPOILERS: I had a question on how thanos got the soul stone because in the scene where he meets ultron he has it but in another scene untrons army is fighting the guardians of the galaxy where gamora is alive so I’m still wondering on how he could’ve gotten it.
Interesting how the infinity stones worked outside of their own universe in this episode. Usually (in the comics) they can’t and I assumed the mcu was going that route since they didn’t work in the TVA in Loki
Coming back to these, I realized something about What if: It would have been a GREAT way to hint at things yet to come in the PRIME MCU. Things that we never got to see active in the previous movies, destined to become active later down the line, that we'll have to wait to see appear in later films. Some intense backdoor foreshadowing beyond what we've gotten, which was really just Captain Carter, who just gets killed in MOM
I do appreciate that the plan is "we need to stop a genocidal madman who do we need the help of, ah yes a Nazi I'm sure replacing the ai of Ultron with a Nazi will go amazingly
@@almalone3282 I mean Natasha is Slavic but then again HYDRA seems to be more about totalitarian control in general rather than racial supremacy (ironically making HYDRA a moderate Nazi faction)
Honestly Marvel has been trying to redeem the weaker movies for a while. Loki made a big deal about Thor Dark World following Avengers Endgame. We've had a revisit of the Incredible Hulk in a previous ep of What If along with various cameos of characters from that movie in other things. Obviously Age of Ultron here. I'm surprised we didn't get an Ironman 2 cameo yet. Re: Thanos, I was fine with a defeat for the Mad Titan, it's Ultron's "comic" after all. The problem was when Thanos did that move triumphantly warping in Infinity War...he already had his Black Order and entire army on the field. He wasn't just strolling in about to get jumped. Now if Ultron hacked Thanos' ship and his Chitauri and that's why suddenly Thanos (a genius and master strategist) found himself alone and surprised...maybe that would be better.
@@IcyDiamond Well like I said, the end result is fine, time constraint was what it was, but I think they could have just added 10 seconds with the army showing up....then getting hacked and end being the same.
@GiRayne Different courses for different horses. I felt it either needed to have half the characters and stories offloaded into different movies/shows so we could have a tight story be told, or it needed to be split into two movies. Things that explain why the Tony that basically quit being IM in IM3 and destroyed his suits is now in charge of an entirely autonomous Iron Legion and back in the suit. And that's just one storyline. And for me, I'm used to a premier team like the Avengers, or X-men, or JLA, or JSA, breaking up into smaller groups to achieve different goals or stories.
@GiRayne I agree, I think it was a great film, sure, a little bloated but still great. Most complaints come from expectations due to the comic book, but as a normal fan that isn’t an issue. I felt age if ultron was much mire beautiful cinematically as opposed to the og avenger which looks visually ugly and cartoonish. Like you said, it’s also the only movie where it’s a fixed team and will be the last avengers movie because the universe is just way too big now so even if they have a smaller roster in the next movie, you will be left wondering why the other heroes aren’t there. Finally, the movie was a launchpad for many other marvel movies like civil war, ragnorok, and even Wanda vision. I just wish we had mire if ultron as opposed to him being a one time thing
I loved the editing on this video! I mean every one is good but nice work!! And this was my favorite episode so far, then the doctor strange episode. Can't wait to see the ending
I just realized something: when Nat and Clint went to Siberia, they went to the same place the other Winter Soldiers were stored. But since this takes place only after Age of Ultron: those Winter Soldiers would have still been alive in cryosleep. Should have used them againt the drones.
Maybe instead of merging these specific universes he will recruit the heroes from the past episodes (and hopefully some brand new ones to not make it feel too small) and bring them to a version of Battle World and lure Ultron there.
I had a couple of issues with this episode: If Ultron can take out Thanos without even trying, surely Vision could as well, so why didn't he in Infinity War? Edit: you brought it up, I agree there is too much Worfing of Thanos in this series If Thanos can snap half the Universe out of existence, then why doesn't Ultron snap all of the Universe. He goes to war with everyone when he could have won with just a thought Edit again: The names in Russian on the folders are as follows: Peter Bertucci - Art Department coordinator for Marvel until Aug 2021 Paul Lasaine - Production Designer for What If Sintiya (I think Cynthia?) khallei (Kelly maybe?) - can't find this one Final Edit: I think this is Cynthia Halley, the kh sound CAN be a harsh H sound, and a woman of that name worked on What If Fran Portillo - design coordinator for Marvel Studios Molly Sotak - design coordinator for Marvel Studios until May 2021
I like also a detail some people have missed. During the whole episode Barton is shooting with his robotic right arm, but when Barton shoots his last arrow while sacrificing he uses his human left arm
I would’ve liked to have seen the stones used more individually or in combination, rather than used for “big laser beam” over and over again. Also, has vision always been this powerful?? Since when has the mind stone been capable of cutting thanos in half and disintegrating uru? Overall, my favourite episode so far.
I think in the comics the stones are not so limited as to just their name. People with real mastery can do anything with any of the stones. But yeah we only got that one combo with Thanos using the Space and Power stones to reach out and crush a moon to toss at Stark and crew on Titan. Honestly any major effect should have been one stone (depending on what you were doing) and either Power or Reality to signify where the juice was coming from.
@@IcyDiamond I feel like the only actual inconsistency is Thanos having the soul stone and then 2 minutes later, Gamora clearly being shown to be alive.
@@Snurlaxe That and didn’t his journey for the stones start after Age Of Ultron, how did he even get the time stone? And if Ultron in Visions body could easily kill Thanos, then why couldn’t Vision easily kill Thanos in the main Marvel universe
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I love that when one AI takes over another AI's body it's first move is to switch every LED to another color.
I mean tbh if I were an AI I would absolutely do that too to be fair... If you're gonna be a robot, better have pizzazz
And also to show that you're different and no danger maybe 🤷🏾♂️
lol. Where do I send you money?
If you look the same as the murder robots then your new allies won't know which one you are
When you are an AI you gotta be on point with your Branding.
Thanos to Thor in IW: “You should have split me in half from the head down with a mind stone head laser beam…”
*snaps fingers*
why is this so funny
@@IamBrixTM because it's so specific lol
Should’ve said it to Vision before Wanda broke it, then he reversed time to bring it back because it’s literally the same situation lol
*Bro but he cut him from the balls up....* 💀💀💀
“How oddly speci-“
i like how the watcher says "but you're human you never give up hope" that's probably the nicest thing someone has said about us it's usually just "puny dumb humans" thanks watcher you cool
Doctor Who goes to that a lot.
I like the idea that humanity is known on a cosmic scale for a "never show me the odds" mindset. Gurren Lagann is one of my favorite series, and it essentially revolves around this very concept :)
@@ericaugust1501 i mean the watcher was talking to him and Natasha never gave up hope
@@oscarmccormack1611 Doctor Who and Star Trek both go to that "humans are the best" thing. Which is probably commercially wise, given that most viewers of Doctor Who and Star Trek are human,
If the watcher says humans never give up hope then he clearly hasn’t met me.
The Eternals in that universe: We still can’t interfere, y’all.
can they survive nuke? let's see; it would only mattered before he got the stones though because they would make no difference once he got the stones.
IKR and where were the celestials?
@@DariMan001 one of them got killed
@@pursuedare Ego doesn't count
@@DariMan001 In the MCU, Ego is a Celestial. I know he isn’t in the comics, but the MCU isn’t the comics
Did anyone else laugh when the watcher headbutts ultron and yells “I’m the watcher!”
I lost it when the watcher went full saint seiya with the armor
That headbud killed me. With as big a head as he has youd think itd have done more damage.
I'm the Jugger- I mean, Watcher, bitch!
That struck me like if he was in Marvel vs capcom and thats what he yelled every single time you spammed the headbutt move
@@PikachaoArt I wouldn't complain if the person that ends up saving everyone in the last episode is Phoenix Wright.
This is how Ultron should've been in the mcu, also he really turned Thanos into his own plan, Perfectly balanced
They can't blow their wad on the big bad. That would be like two emperors.
The Ultron of this power and pure intimidation with a voice like James Spader
To be fair, this is still the MCU. Ultron is now canonically like this in the MCU.
My thing is like- could vision just cut Thanos in half???
@@jennyholiday88 Technically, yes
But did he think of it? Probably not
I feel there was a possibility of a wild fight between Ultravision and Thanos but Thanos wasn’t expecting him to be smart enough to kill him first, Thanos is the type of guy who will talk to you about his origins and plan like how he did to Dr Strange in Infinity War
Infinity war thanos does love to monologue doesnt he?
@@Pixel0429 he tortured Star Lord making him choose to kill Gamora, monologued to Thor and dramatically killing his brother which took quite a while, and even told Tony he knew who he was (making a personal connection how cute)
@@boringboi3092 facts
he more kinda guy take your hit first and beat you back to show dominance... but ultron straight instant kill, kinda caught thanos off guard
Ultron made a joke in AoU about villains who monologue their plans before attacking
“I’m glad you asked that because I really wanted to take this time to explain my evil plan....” **blasts Tony**
Don’t know if anyone will see this, but I think Ultron lasering Thanos in half is predicated on how Thor was able to get the axe in his chest in Infinity War. Like Thanos totally had the ability to have a force field, make himself an illusion, wear more armor than just a tank top. But he didn’t. He was arrogant enough to think that nobody would just make a decisive killing blow. So Ultron did the logical thing and immediately went for the kill shot, just in case that might work, and crazy enough, it did.
Yeah the MCU gauntlet is weak as hell
@@142doddy I don’t think it is
it’s just not utilised the best and the only time Thanos has all 6 and wasn’t being attacked straight away ,he destroyed them. Everything other time he has less than a second to react before being attacked
Like the wizard in Dungeon Dynamite once said: "the only way to deffeat [an enemy who's counting with your understimation] is to overstimate him"
@@142doddy Much weaker than the Comic version, but not weak compared to everything else in the MCU. Ultron is the only one so far to use them to their full extent.
One of the biggest asspulls I’ve ever seen. Did it hurt reaching that far in?
Everyone knows Red Guardian’s shield is made of pure Stalinium.
It's a composite of Leninite and Stalinium.
Point is Red Guardian's shield gets top Marx!
It’s only because the Trotskium wasn’t strong enough 😂
@@TrevorCopter then the guy who made trotskium was taken out back and shot
@@aweigh1010 it’s communist humour you lmao
@@aweigh1010 In Communist Russia, Fascist Humor cools you.
I bet the final episode will be called “What if.. the watcher intervened?”
I like this! My guess is “What if… worlds collide?”
@Shoenheim the movies have gotten better for me personally.
@Shoenheim Rich Evans?
@Shoenheim there hasnt been a bad movie or tv after endgame. They're all pretty good still
Looks like you were right
Thanos had literally no time to die he just fell in half. Unfortunate.
Why couldn’t Thanos and Ultron have an epic fight :(
@@IcyDiamond James Bond was hogging all of the time to die. Sorry.
@@CALented Man what I would do to kill James Bond so we could get a Ultron vs Thanos fight
@@IcyDiamond Maybe that happens next episode, except zombies.
@@deanospimoniful Maybe but now Ultron is so powerful so he’d just KO him instantly
That shot of Hawkeye jumping to his death was absolutely beautiful. I loved it.
Must have just been me that laughed out loud at that bit then. 😐
The Watcher: *vows to watch*.
Proceeds to punch Ultron into different realities hahaha. Just love how he acts like a teenager watching his favourite movie, trying to talk to Hawkeye and Black Widow ahaha absolute gold!
To be fair, Ultron punched *him* into different realities, he had no control over that. The interference in this episode was forced upon him, he had nothing to do with it
@@logandh2 Hence, Mason was wrong. What if, though, there was a universe where Mason was right?
Watcher is totally a Widow and Hawkeye shipper and we all know it
Actually, he was just Ultron punching him into different realities
Would've been funny if Clint tried on Bucky's arm, and then had two left arms.
An upside down arm fit for an Australian
what about that would’ve been funny
@@wobblecrash oh dear who called the comedy police guys
@@SmoothOperador just asking a simple question. No need to get upset.
@@wobblecrash spoken like a true officer
I think with the whole laser beam thing that cut thanos in half, I saw it as vision uses the laser like superman non lethally because he’s got that human mindset while ultron just uses it like homelander and hasn’t a single bit of mercy in him.
I love how he is like Tony and made himself a suit of armor and a lance.
Reminded me of that one digimon
@@quanny3324 Gallantmon?
@@Rain593 haha heck yeah that's the one
@@Rain593 oh yeah tht one kick ass Royal Guard hell all royal guard is awesome
Absolutely he is redeemed. What an episode!! Ultron with the stones is a legit multiversal threat!
@@ericaugust1501 they said that they don't work in the TVA, not other universes. The comics are the only thing that has said they don't work in different universes.
@@darthamalgamation so are you saying that the MCU has its own multiverse? As far as we know all the Marvel properties share the same multiverse. Including the MCU universe. It was likely just because these were written before Loki was, where they established this.
@@ericaugust1501 have you read the What If comics? The entire concept is a fun exercise to explore fun and weird possibilities that you could never do in the regular canon universe. The rules are either beyond malleable, inconsequential, or just don’t exist. I’m not saying this exudes poor writing in this particular medium but with this out there idea it’s more about the possibilities taking precedence over the how.
The creator of the What If comics Roy Thomas wrote in that very first issue, “That’s the nice thing about the ‘What If’ idea. You can take it anywhere.” That’s the fun. You’re talking about a concept that birthed a story titled: “What If Iron Man had an eating problem rather than a drinking one?”
He didn’t need to be redeemed he was always great
@@RJ-Ramen except they're really framing this particular series as taking place in the multiverse somewhat canon to the MCU? I could be wrong but looking at the similiarities in design with mainline MCU that's the vibe I'm getting
Anyone else notice that the fight after they capture an Ultron bot, they were climbing up the same pit that Tony, Bucky and Steve fought in in Civil War? I just loved the continuity there.
They literally said it was the same facility, didn't they?
@@capness1228 think he means more so the specific escape path through the upward hatch launch thing
@@capness1228 yeah it was definitely on the nose.
I love when people point out things that are clearly like meant to make people go “oh look at this”
@@JoshOdom I mean that was the only escape path so this isn’t really worth talking about
So if Loki hadn’t happened the TVA would’ve just zapped Ultron into their lobby where his stones are useless and basically reenact that scene from office space where they beat the everloving shit out of that printer
He would have been pruned to the end of time where he would have been eaten by that big energy eating monster thing
@@rodneyjones1991 yeah but they’d probably wanna beat the shit out of him a little before that I’d imagine they weren’t the nicest of people there
Lmao. The printer had to be stopped.
I think this type of universes are very different from what the main MCU timeline could develop into, like, maybe the multiverse was always there, but by avoiding the branching of the timeline, Kang's Variant managed to keep his Sacred timeline disconnected from the rest of the multiverse.
He would have walked through the robot detector and it would have melted him from the inside out.
Other TH-camrs: “I know for a FACT this Easter egg references this.”
James: “This Easter egg might be connected to this, might not be, just don’t blame me if isn’t and give me all the credit if it is 😎”
At high level, I like how he acquired the gems, but the split down the middle was a bit wacky for me. I think they turned Thanos into a goof one too many times in What If. Either have this one off moment, or the jokey Thanos in the Guardians episode.
Other than that, I have no issues with this, it was terrific. Handicapped Ultron-Zola was super interesting. I loved how earnest Zola was in that situation and the dynamic between him and Nat.
I thoroughly feel like that how quick ultron would have dealt with Thanos. An AI with quicker reaction time and already knows about the stones because he himself was created from the one he’s powered by. He’s like the embodiment of the mind stone at that point
Yes, couldn't more. I also liked the dynamic of Zola with the heroes, I always like when previous villains have to work together with the heroes to survive. I also thought that the way Ultron kills Thanos was rather off-putting, though with the short lenght of the episode there wouldn't be many ways of doing it without looking contrived.
@@rodneyjones1991 That's ignoring how durable Thanos should be, he should not have been killed so easily, especially with five of the six infinity stones.
@@JoahTheThread5ive he wasn’t actively protecting himself with the stones. And it was the power of the stone that sliced him, not some regular laser lol. Thanos is very durable but never invulnerable. He’s been beaten up a few times
@@rodneyjones1991 His should be durable to not get killed by a blast from the mind.
He can crush vibranium with his hands and take hits from Hulk.
The mind stone should not be able to slice him in half like that.
The funny thing of this episode of "What if", was the fact that Ultron was not noticing the parallel Universes until the Watcher started to narrate.
I think they way they explained was that since he killed pretty much everything the universe was finally silent enough for a being on his level to hear the Watcher
@@reddeadspartan yeah I got that, but if the Watcher would have shut up! He could have, at least, delayed some of the destruction that Ultron si doing. Can the Watcher just stop thinking out loud?
What I found funny is that The Watcher's initial reaction seemed like he was reading his narration from a script, reached the part where Ultron sees him, and is like "wait, hold on, he does what now?"
Yeah the Ultron beating thanos was almost exactly the trunks slicing Frieza moment from DBZ where you go "uh oh it's the old big bad *Slice slice* nevermind he was dispatched in mere seconds"
Very true..
So ultron getting a vibranium body with the mind stone is greater than 5 infinity stones that Thanos had?
Yeah but my problem is that if they keep doing that over and over and over. It will get played out like how future trunks became useless against cell. And later gohan himself became useless post cell arc. And in retrospect It diminishes the power I perceived thanos to have . Just like trunks and gohan become a footnote outside their own short-lived story arcs.
Noone watches that gay anime shit
During the scene when Ultron and Uatu were fighting between universes, there was a planet that looked exactly like Mustafar, even with a 100% accurate Vader's castle.
Star Wars had Marvel issues. Disney owns Star Wars therefore is part of Marvel.
Darth Vader solo series is part of Marvel omniverse
Also, the planet they first appeared on where Ultron cleared away the forest in one go looked awfully like Felucia. Even down to the weird half bent-over trees.
Such an amazing episode, best one by far. I’ve always admired Ultron as a villain, partially cuz of James Spader’s epic voice but he’s just underrated imo. This episode absolutely proves the potential Ultron had and the chaos he could’ve made if he really did get the vision body and all infinity stones
@GiRayne couldn’t have said it perfectly myself
@GiRayne nerd
@GiRayne Wish spader voiced ultron. But it doesn’t make sense that he would want to wipe out all life in order to make peace.
If anything, Thanos is the one who's been redeemed. All of a sudden he doesn't seem so bad anymore. Especially with the right character (T'Challa Star Lord) to talk him down.
nah fuck that episode it was so stupid, you cant tell me that just cause Star Lord was Tchalla he somehow was able to talk down Thanos into not committing his plan into KILLING HALF THE UNIVERSE.
@@Badookum tchalla presented a good argument, Thanos as we all know is a very logical and cool guy 😎
Each episode just gets exponentially better. Also Tony Stark dies yet again.
Tony and Thanos are both having trouble in this series. Something against T names maybe?
Next episode: evil Doctor Strange opens up a new dimension and just shoots Tony in the face with a glock for no reason whatsoever, and then goes about his business.
tony is the smartest dumbass in all these universes.
In the background of the Avenger's death scene, was Hulk just a pile of green goo? Did anybody else see that?
Maybe an absolute point
Mason's issue with Hawkeye not safely ejecting the USB arrow had me in stiches!
Legit had to pull over cause I was laughing so hard
Freaking classic 💀
When Ultron was fighting the Watcher he's appearance looked like Dr. Doom.
I thought that was a cool touch
Also, when he's fighting The Watcher & literally eats a Galaxy, I legit screamed GALACTUS! That shot was really cool. This episode had some really good animation
@@ItsTheGuy77 wait that was galactus i screamed corn of coblin!!!!
@@ItsTheGuy77 *a galaxy
He also briefly looks like Galactus when he swallows that galaxy
I like to think The Watcher lives in his Multiverse Netflix thingy and he also takes too long to choose what to watch next and his food grows cold.
Huh, I wonder what the Watcher eats? Extrauniversal nachos? Mirror steak?
@@eventua8474 probably multigrain cereal or something like that.
In an alternate universe, Corn of Coblin has obtained all six infinity stone and has shucked EVERYONE. They called it “the shucking”, and everyone got shucked SO hard. It’s really poppin off now.
It’s cool how Nat and Clint were the 2 who save everyone in Endgame by going to Vormir and now they’re the ones stopping ultron together.
Technically many people "saved the universe"
For me, this is a contender for favourite episode besides the Doctor Strange one. I adore messed up realities, and Ultron is one of my favourite Marvel villains. It’s good to see him back and doing more than what he did in Avengers Age of Ultron
Jeremy Renner is a surprisingly fantastic voice actor.
Yeah I thought his performance was great.
That Hawkeye Francis joke shot me straight back to the Next Avengers: Heroes of Tomorrow animated movie (also covering the Age of Ultron storyline) where kid Pym clowns kid Hawkeye for the same reason. Not sure if it's a direct joke from the comics too, but I love the inclusion.
This was my sister's favourite film growing up. Her favourite character was James and went wtf when they made Nat infertile
@@denzelarevalo8126 Same here! The Age of Ultron movie had so much potential but that was just another reason for me to be disappointed
@@denzelarevalo8126 Loved Thor's daughter and T'challa and Storm's son.
Me too
I thought I was the only one who noticed
I feel like the watcher’s narration is definitely directed at the audience, weather the watcher is aware of it or not
When Ultron and Watcher were smashing through dimensions, I swear the one planet looked like Mustafar from Star Wars Revenge of The Sith
I'm still kinda salty that white vision in wandavisiok didn't reboot as some form of ultron to bring him back to the mcu. I know it won't happen but it would be neat if ultron send one drone to the mcu as a last ditch attempt to save his consciousness
That literally makes no sense from what happened in Wandavision. JFC some of you kids are so slow.
@@mr.dr0bot731 who are you talking to? That was literally one of the biggest rumors
@@0741921 Mephisto was the biggest rumor, that doesn't mean it made sense
@@mr.dr0bot731 Naw man. White vision was literally original vision body without the mind stone. They could have claimed that even though the process failed to complete, some amount of Ultron was still in there.
There is that one ultron head that appears to be activated in Homecoming, which implies Ultron still exists in the main universe. He's just stuck inside that head since Vision disabled his Internet connection.
Next Episode “WHAT IF…the Watcher interfered”
Yup guaranteed
One thing I did think was interesting, was it looks like due to the nature of the MCU multiverse branching from some core universe, apparently Infinity Stones from one universe can work in others. That's a departure from the comics as you've mentioned before re: the Fantastic Four.
My take on this was when the watcher says "This should not be possible." he is referring directly to the infinity stones. Ultron then says "Oh, but anything is possible in a multiverse." Which I think implies that this specific set of infinity stones does work in the multiverse? Just a theory though.
I think all kinds of messed up stuff was happening because they were ripping holes across the entire multiverse.
@@my4cc0unt that’s also what I was thinking. In a multiverse, even if there’s universe where they don’t work in other universes, that means there’s universes where they do. Still wish they’d said it though. It mucks with the rules they’ve established
So zombie Thanos with IG Vs Ultron with IG, who's IG will reign supreme? Then you have Supreme Strange and friends to round it off. Last episode is going to be bonkers!
@@TheDemontr1 Yeah I felt a return to Battleworld was where this was going to go once that Party Thor episode ended. The wastelands where Marvel Zombies and Age of Ultron (the comic version) were waiting to kill anyone exiled by Doom...and willing to fight each other as well.
If Mason isn't joking, he might be thinking of Saint Seiya instead with the golden armour thing
I also enjoyed the scene where Watcher was so tempted to intervene in the archives
Theory: this episode was actually just "What If Bruce Banner didn't have a VPN."
Ross Marquand definitely sounded like he was trying to do James Spader's Ultron. You can tell by his cadence and how he enunciated things. Don't know what you guys are talking about.
Definitely, I heard it too
I actually thought it was Spader until I saw the credits
Other languages like spanish are using Spader's voice actor for this Ultron. That shows that disney could they would have used all the real actors to repeat the voices and that Marquand was just doing a Spader voice. I dont know about other countries but in the Spain version of What if all the voices are the real ones from the spanish versions of the movies so its sounds great and not jarring.
That episode looked so phenomenal, that last fight was an absolute treat to watch
I love how the scene where Ultron notices the Watcher is written like the Watcher is an actor reading a script and then realizes his that his character, the main protagonist, is about to die.
Ultron staring at the Multiverse:
“What’s this universe? Cap-Com?!”
They really missed a chance to have the watcher say "dr strange I've come to bargain"
Riddle me this: can Ultron v Watcher be considered a Hallway Fight?
Was it a fight in a hallway? Therein lies your answer.
@@deanospimoniful one could argue a multiversal cosmic corridor is a hallway, maybe
I think the "In your universe" argument for who the Watcher is talking to might not go that deep. The intro for every episode in the series includes the Watcher saying "I am *your* guide through these vast new realities". He's essentially telling tales to those who are only familiar with the original MCU Sacred Timeline, i.e. the audience, or, if you wanna stretch it, a denizen of that main timeline. It likely isn't meant to be taken literally and doesn't have anything to do with Strange. The Watcher is basically Rod Serling up until Ultron realizes he and the multiverse are physical things. Could even say it's teasing the fourth wall a little bit.
Of course, Infinity Corn of Coblin will put all arguments to bed when he shows up next week
They even used the TVA computer in the promo for this episode. th-cam.com/video/U7Jy5R-ADmY/w-d-xo.html
He is most definitely breaking the 4th wall and Ultron was too when he said “anything is possible in the multiverse”. Ultron might come back in Dr Strange 2
I like the reference to Ross Sterling as the show reminded me of a Marvel version of The Twilight Zone up until that last episode.
The watcher could be talking to Steve Rogers on the moon
We got a proper Age of Ultron, y'all. Finally!! Ultron is hands down one of my absolute favorite comicbook villains ever & he was phenomenal in this. I was massively let down & disappointed in the movie version of Ultron. Hated that they made him do quips like almost every MCU character. Not a fan jokester Ultron
I'm glad we FINALLY got a cold & calculating Ultron. Only wish they got James Spader back. He was the best part of the movie for me. His voice is just amazing. Hate that they killed off Thanos so easily but the Watcher fight made up for it in my opinion. That was just, WOW! Amazing stuff
You can’t get a funny man like james spader and not have him quip; whether you hate it or not spaders casting determined the personality of the character.
@@willvermillion1025 Spader is fantastic casting but I do remember reading somewhere that they made him a quipy character cause he was made by Tony Stark.
@@ItsTheGuy77 at the end of the day we can all blam joss for any problems with the film whether it be writing or cut ideas.
@@willvermillion1025 The entire movie seemed like wasted potential. All the ingredients for a great film were right there, it just needed (and deserved) better writing
@@willvermillion1025 I think Joss was really limited by the larger MCU blueprint.
it's a minor thing, but i really love what if using kirby dots in its miscellaneous energy blasts
Yes yes yes
Agreed. Kirby crackle is done so well in this series.
I think my favourite part of the show's animation is whenever Uatu's doing something with his power and they actually use "Kirby Dots" in the animation, and I THINK so far they only use Kirby Dots in relation to Uatu. It's a fantastic nod to the co-creator Jack "The King" Kirby and his revolutionary artstyle.
I also love how Uatu's as powerful (or nearly) as an entire Infinity Being. In the comics he's pretty badass. Though according to Marvel's unofficial skill rating, he has a 7 (Maxx = Godlike) rating in everything except "Fighting Skills", which is at a 1.... but seeing him throw down with Ultron here he didn't seem like a Fighting Skill = 1 guy to me. XD
When Ultron glued the Infinity Stones to his armour he bloody smoothed the edges with his lil robots
This feels like the moment we discovered in episode 4 of Wanda Vision the whole purpose of the first three episodes. Now we know the whole purpose of this entire series. And damn is it amazing.
Is it? I thought it was obvious the point was to ask what if?
Is it really though?
No.
@@BlownMacTruck Yes.
Anyone notice that when the nukes gets launched, a dude yells "code RED" with Ross being focused. Cheeky Red Hulk reference? Or just coincidence?
Coincidence
I definitely noticed this
Dr strange supreme, zombies, & ultron, IMO, were top tier marvel. The ending of Ultron, & his infinity armor, gave me the chills. So badass.
Those are easily the best episodes. They were the kinda stuff I was expecting from this type of show. Also, The whodunnit episode with Bad Bloke Hank Pym killing future Avengers was pretty good as well in my opinion
Yes.. those 3 episodes, even with them being only 30ish minutes, are better then most of the movies.
I really liked this episode. I kind of wish they did the anthology thing for a little longer, but yeah, it was cool.
The evil garden gnome interacting with the Watcher starting around 12:45 in this video has me cracking up. Crazy good editing!
Cheers Hinson you hero!
Yes it’s up! So much better than the original lol. Glad they took out the humor. So epic
1:25 the party Thor episode was actually supposed to be episode 5 which would’ve introduced ultron earlier but switch last minute
Cold & Calculating Ultron for the win! Only wish we got James Spader back. His Ultron voice was just amazing.
Awesome to see my favorite Marvel villain done right, finally. My lil bro actually turned to me & was like, is he really that powerful? Yes, yes he is bro
Thank you, you fine gentlemen. You named Ultron's weapon correctly a double Lance, another You tube (shall remain unnamed) channel called it a double sword. The philistines
This one was definitely the best episode yet! Can’t wait for next weeks!
Best part is when they completely nerfed Thanos and made Vision look like an idiot in Infinity War
I never thought they'd top Doctor Strange Supreme. That was absolutely magnificent. But this one did for me. Ultron & The Watcher were absolutely phenomenal. This, Doctor Strange Supreme & the zombie episodes were the kinda stuff I wanted from a what if show.
Also, the whodunnit mystery episode was pretty solid stuff.
Weeks? There is only one episode left this season...
@@TheDarkbluerock I know, I meant as in just next weeks episode. Not multiple weeks
The way I see it, Thor caught Thanos off guard with all the infinity stones and managed to land his axe in his chest.
Iron Man was able to physically overpower Thanos for a few moments.
Mantis was able to subdue his mind.
It's just making clear, he's dangerous, but not invincible.
You can catch him off guard, hit him hard enough to Injure him, behead him, slice his arm off etc etc
Hes not invincible with the stones either, he has to use them first.
Many Marvel characters are strong enough to kill him.
It more or less confirms to me the reason Thanos didn't just take the stones right away. Because he'd be killed, so he made a plan. He also gave Loki the mind stone so it would be closer to the others. But Thanos would have to be brain dead to try and kill the ancient one without a good plan.
I mean, his plan to kill the ancient one would have still been the same "send ebony and cull to deal with it"
@@spipsdew6157 one palm slap and both of them are force ghosts.
Maw is tough but man is he fragile, can't even survive the vacuum of space, pfft, what a scrub.
Jokes aside Maw had an edge on Strange because strange didn't draw his power from the Dark Dimension.
Funnily enough Strange seems to be more in line with find the best path that leads to a desired outcome. He's powerful but his biggest power is that he's willing to exploit the laws of time without breaking them.
The ancient one has actual power beyond strange. Bearing in mind this is the current strange as we know him that'll soon change.
Hawkeye’s sacrifice looked beautiful. Him dropping into a pile of Ultron’s firing an arrow. Chef’s kiss!
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who loved that shot.
I would love to have that shot as a wallpaper
Infinitely better than endgame. Hated that rehash
I love how your podcasts are always so relatable, and very natural. You always make it so fun and sarcastic (in a good way). Thanks Mr Sunday Movies!
I've been waiting at least an hour or so for this
LOVED that opening with Natasha and Clint. Amazing design and combat especially with Hawkeyes arrow shooting at the intro🙌🙌🙌🙌
They should just call “what if” , “Tony Stark dies in every episode “
First episode
@@willvermillion1025 bro literally died in every episode he was in lmao
Lmao fr
I feel like that was their shot at RDJ for not coming back to do VO
Kenny Stark
Been waiting for this video all day
The editing making it looks like Uatu was terrified of the redcap/garden-gnome was incredible.
Also, has yanking a USB early EVER caused actual problems in the real world? Or it is like needing to turn off all electronic devices during a takeoff?
0:11 When Mason says "Remember when life was better?" And James seems to give a natural sigh afterwards....
This hits differently because we're listening to two Australians who are in an indefinite lockdown.....
Thanos got his wish… perfectly balanced.
I enjoy these videos almost as much as I do the actual episodes. You guys are doing a great job.
SPOILERS: I had a question on how thanos got the soul stone because in the scene where he meets ultron he has it but in another scene untrons army is fighting the guardians of the galaxy where gamora is alive so I’m still wondering on how he could’ve gotten it.
Maybe in this reality, he loved Nebula more and killed her?
@@GreaserMan yeah thats what I thought as well but i wasn’t sure
@@ak9260 I'm hoping it was actually Ebony Maw. He deserves love...although he'd have to die...hm.
@@GreaserMan hahaha maybe lol
Interesting how the infinity stones worked outside of their own universe in this episode. Usually (in the comics) they can’t and I assumed the mcu was going that route since they didn’t work in the TVA in Loki
Mason sounded legitimately disturbed at how dated James' "bag of chips" reference was.
No mention of Mustafar? It’s actually so wild that was briefly shown, I love that that they did it
Mustafar? Wait WHAT
This episode gave me flashbacks to marvel vs capcom infinite. Painful memories.
Same here
@@sternonisoil Maybe Thanos could've defeated Ultron if he mastered the Satsui no Hado. XD
Coming back to these, I realized something about What if: It would have been a GREAT way to hint at things yet to come in the PRIME MCU. Things that we never got to see active in the previous movies, destined to become active later down the line, that we'll have to wait to see appear in later films. Some intense backdoor foreshadowing beyond what we've gotten, which was really just Captain Carter, who just gets killed in MOM
I do appreciate that the plan is "we need to stop a genocidal madman who do we need the help of, ah yes a Nazi I'm sure replacing the ai of Ultron with a Nazi will go amazingly
Feeling that it won't even work and Ultron is gonna pull the typical "I evolved beyond this programming."
I mean its literally just 2 white people left on earth i think the robot nazi would be ecstatic at the idea
@@almalone3282 I mean Natasha is Slavic but then again HYDRA seems to be more about totalitarian control in general rather than racial supremacy (ironically making HYDRA a moderate Nazi faction)
Love the editing with The Watcher and the nome from Strange Supreme. Smashing!
Honestly Marvel has been trying to redeem the weaker movies for a while. Loki made a big deal about Thor Dark World following Avengers Endgame. We've had a revisit of the Incredible Hulk in a previous ep of What If along with various cameos of characters from that movie in other things. Obviously Age of Ultron here. I'm surprised we didn't get an Ironman 2 cameo yet.
Re: Thanos, I was fine with a defeat for the Mad Titan, it's Ultron's "comic" after all. The problem was when Thanos did that move triumphantly warping in Infinity War...he already had his Black Order and entire army on the field. He wasn't just strolling in about to get jumped. Now if Ultron hacked Thanos' ship and his Chitauri and that's why suddenly Thanos (a genius and master strategist) found himself alone and surprised...maybe that would be better.
I just wanted there to be a bit of a struggle for Ultron when fighting Thanos, he can still win but it shouldn’t be this damn easy for him to win
@@IcyDiamond Well like I said, the end result is fine, time constraint was what it was, but I think they could have just added 10 seconds with the army showing up....then getting hacked and end being the same.
@@rubaiyat300 I would’ve cut the Natasha and Clint plot line to focus more on Ultron honestly
@GiRayne Different courses for different horses. I felt it either needed to have half the characters and stories offloaded into different movies/shows so we could have a tight story be told, or it needed to be split into two movies. Things that explain why the Tony that basically quit being IM in IM3 and destroyed his suits is now in charge of an entirely autonomous Iron Legion and back in the suit. And that's just one storyline. And for me, I'm used to a premier team like the Avengers, or X-men, or JLA, or JSA, breaking up into smaller groups to achieve different goals or stories.
@GiRayne I agree, I think it was a great film, sure, a little bloated but still great. Most complaints come from expectations due to the comic book, but as a normal fan that isn’t an issue. I felt age if ultron was much mire beautiful cinematically as opposed to the og avenger which looks visually ugly and cartoonish. Like you said, it’s also the only movie where it’s a fixed team and will be the last avengers movie because the universe is just way too big now so even if they have a smaller roster in the next movie, you will be left wondering why the other heroes aren’t there. Finally, the movie was a launchpad for many other marvel movies like civil war, ragnorok, and even Wanda vision. I just wish we had mire if ultron as opposed to him being a one time thing
That gnome edit was perfect lol 12:41
What’s that clip of them they often show with the puppet? It looks like it’s part of a professional production.
I loved the editing on this video! I mean every one is good but nice work!! And this was my favorite episode so far, then the doctor strange episode. Can't wait to see the ending
I just realized something: when Nat and Clint went to Siberia, they went to the same place the other Winter Soldiers were stored. But since this takes place only after Age of Ultron: those Winter Soldiers would have still been alive in cryosleep. Should have used them againt the drones.
9:16 “HE’S NOT TALKING TO ME MASON”
A headbut from The Watcher's big dome would probably crack open a planet.
The editing of the Gnome vs The Watcher... just.... * chefs kiss *
Maybe instead of merging these specific universes he will recruit the heroes from the past episodes (and hopefully some brand new ones to not make it feel too small) and bring them to a version of Battle World and lure Ultron there.
I had a couple of issues with this episode:
If Ultron can take out Thanos without even trying, surely Vision could as well, so why didn't he in Infinity War?
Edit: you brought it up, I agree there is too much Worfing of Thanos in this series
If Thanos can snap half the Universe out of existence, then why doesn't Ultron snap all of the Universe. He goes to war with everyone when he could have won with just a thought
Edit again:
The names in Russian on the folders are as follows:
Peter Bertucci - Art Department coordinator for Marvel until Aug 2021
Paul Lasaine - Production Designer for What If
Sintiya (I think Cynthia?) khallei (Kelly maybe?) - can't find this one Final Edit: I think this is Cynthia Halley, the kh sound CAN be a harsh H sound, and a woman of that name worked on What If
Fran Portillo - design coordinator for Marvel Studios
Molly Sotak - design coordinator for Marvel Studios until May 2021
@GiRayne of course it would be boring, but not doing it is a plot hole that needs to be explained
Currently leaving a like because I am trained like a pavilion dog every time I hear the intro
pavlovian
@@jonathonrobinson6081 tomato toomato
That's how they get ya!
Do you think Pavlov thought about feeding his dogs every time he heard a bell?
@@codycox7114 Accents =/= spelling
I loved the editing with the gnome demon meeting the watcher
Renner's haircut in Endgame would look fine on younger, more handsome people.... the problem is that Renner's an old man with a weird shaped head.
I like also a detail some people have missed. During the whole episode Barton is shooting with his robotic right arm, but when Barton shoots his last arrow while sacrificing he uses his human left arm
Always looked forward to these videos 😂
Very much appreciated the Marvel 1602 talk
I would’ve liked to have seen the stones used more individually or in combination, rather than used for “big laser beam” over and over again.
Also, has vision always been this powerful?? Since when has the mind stone been capable of cutting thanos in half and disintegrating uru?
Overall, my favourite episode so far.
The inconsistencies make me hate this episode honestly
I wouldn't put it past vision to hold back, but he did slice that one air control tower in half in Civil War.
I think in the comics the stones are not so limited as to just their name. People with real mastery can do anything with any of the stones. But yeah we only got that one combo with Thanos using the Space and Power stones to reach out and crush a moon to toss at Stark and crew on Titan. Honestly any major effect should have been one stone (depending on what you were doing) and either Power or Reality to signify where the juice was coming from.
@@IcyDiamond I feel like the only actual inconsistency is Thanos having the soul stone and then 2 minutes later, Gamora clearly being shown to be alive.
@@Snurlaxe That and didn’t his journey for the stones start after Age Of Ultron, how did he even get the time stone? And if Ultron in Visions body could easily kill Thanos, then why couldn’t Vision easily kill Thanos in the main Marvel universe
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