Why Is A Baofeng UV-5R Not Allowed On GMRS Frequencies Or FRS Channels & What Will The FCC Do?
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- The Baofeng UV-5R is a ham radio and according to the FCC you are not permitted to use the UV-5R or any ham radio to talk on GMRS channels - but, why? In this video I explain the FCC rules about using a Baofeng on GMRS and what the FCC will do if you do use your Baofeng UV-5R on GMRS frequencies.
Disclosure & clarification: NO FCC rules or regulations were violated in making this video. I did NOT transmit on my UV-5R on GMRS or any other frequencies while recording this video. Sophisticated editing techniques and CGI were used to make it appear that I used a UV-5R to transmit on a GMRS channel, but rest assured, it was all make-believe.
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Thank you for supporting China and their junk radios. Did you get a kick back???
Please let us know which GMRS radios are not made in China and I will be happy to review those.
And no, I got no kickback, I make these videos just for the stupid comments.
found the sad ham
Find any radio or electronic for that matter that isn't made in China...
@@TheNotaRubiconI love dad hams:)
To make a stupid statement like that you must be Japanese.
FCC takes this very seriously , I have a friend that got 20 years just for ripping the tag of his mattress.
Probably the same guy that's been living in a plastic bubble since Prop 65 passed.
That's a bunch of Crap 99 percent of tags Say Can only be removed By owner If you own the mattress you can remove the tag you don't go to prison for removing a Tag @Larry0465
I got busted for the tag infraction myself. 10 years of lifespan was wasted. But.. it was a justifiable crime. 🙂
They hate when you removed the mattress antenna
I knew that mattress tag was a problem.
New purchaser of UV-5R. I subbed for your entertaining presentation, TeeShirts, and the radio announcer timbre to your voice. Your audio is well done.
Perfect level of sarcasm and information. Would recommend.
Awesome work thank you for all your videos 😂 Now Waiting for talkpod A36 review
Thanks for forever changing the way I say "Baofeng".
It is time for us to have a completely unnecessary argument over the correct spelling of Boofwang
I almost want to report you for not pronouncing it boo-fwang this whole time, you damn racist.
I say "Baufén" en español 😂 So there...
Phonetically correct is "bow fung", but I like Randall's pronunciation better.
How many fars can yours talks?
You kill me. This channel is priceless. Maybe the only source of humor in ham.
A $250,000 fine? Damn, I could take a submarine ride to the Titanic for that.
One way ride
They would have to hand deliver that fine. Please hand deliver that fine. Please please please please
Bring extra batteries so you can steer
Yep 👍
And no FCC laws in international waters! 😂
Those were some pretty sophisticated editing techniques and CGI you used to make it appear that you used a UV-5R to transmit on a GMRS channel. I am highly impressed.
Well, someone smart like Randy, who would NEVER use a UV5R or any other unapproved radio on GMRS, would surely know how to edit and do CGI very well.
That is why Randy is a "TH-cam Superstar professional"
He's very professional, and talented, to boot.
He even CGI’d the radios in the background to light up at the same time. Nifty little trick!
If the country goes belly up I doubt there will be any FFC goons around to police the perceived issue. LOL
There won't be any teachers around to help you get that GED, either. Sad.
@@waytospergtherebrowhy would you need a GED then lmao
As an electronic dork all my life I have built radios and transmitted on them all my life. No one will be allowed to tell me what I can do with a radio
I have done something similar for years as well for many different projects. Really it does not matter unless you interfere with a business, emergancy service and it will not be fun and could be expensive.
Omg you will go to Gail.😭😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
How does the FCC know which radio we are actually using anyway?
Does the baofeng transmit something that gives up its identity?
@@mr.viewer6988 Not sure "Gail" would like that. Or, maybe she wood?
@@mr.viewer6988I've never seen her, but I heard "Gail" is cute as a button!😂
Raise your hand if you use your UV5R on GMRS 👋
Xts 5000 gang and xpr 7550 on frs. Gotta get the range when annoying construction flaggers.
U R GOIN 2 PRISONS GOOD SIR
You have to change the antenna on the uv5r to receive and transmit on gmrs and or frs???
you dont HAVE to change the antenna, but an antenna tuned for GMRS would work better.. That said, many people I know use their UV-5R for close (less than 1mile) comms on GMRS with the stock antenna and it works just fine..
👋🏻
I haven't found such an enjoyable channel in a very long time. Love what you're doing.
We are literally choking to death on overbearing government regulations. It’s ridiculous. I love unelected bureaucrats who pull arbitrary restrictions right out of their ass. We all do it, and nobody cares. Live your life - f@ck the restrictions
the FCC won't do jack shit about using it on GMRS.
Yah, thats why I said pretty much exactly that in the video. You should try watching it.
It will be fine. They have to come for your guns first. And your gas stove. And diesel engines. First, before the radios.
@@LatitudeSkyDon't know about that
@KLWWorldNews1yep. Name the parameters.
@@LatitudeSky here in New York they're coming for coal fired pizza ovens; I'm not kidding.
I am disappointed there is no pinned comment from an "expert" yet. :-(
Sometimes it can take a day or two for the idiots to come out of the woodwork.
@@TheNotaRubicon Hey hey, hey, I can hear you !
Don’t adjust you squelch knob just yet…some old bat in a shack in Iowa is writing their rough draft as we speak. Policies are for a reason you know! 😂
Give “Some”People” time to wake up from their naps. Just wait, it’s coming.
I’m here for the sad ham tears with a bucket of popcorn hitting refresh.
Thanks to Randy, I now know how to ker-chunk my local repeaters…allegedly. That makes me feel powerful as an advanced GMRS and CB operator.
@bodazaphfa makes sure when you are allegedly ker-chunking your local repeater you do it correctly.. with the Roger beep on 😂
I’m not worried bout the FCC ….as a matter of fact my buddy hunter and I were talking to the big guy and he guaranteed me I was ok to use any boofwang .
I have 2...I paid for them, I own them, and I will push any button on MY radio I want, whenever I want. Sad hams can go pound sand if they don't like it.
Cool story. I bought a car and I own it. I’ll drive on any side of the road or sidewalk that I want.
Fun fact: slow down the playback speed to see the subliminal messages and Randy sounds like he's had one too many adult beverages!
“Some people” don’t have anything better to do than whine and cry about what radio is being used for what purpose! Good lord people-get a life
Mostly the old dudes. Nobody gives a shit unless you're being disruptive to others who were already communicating.
@@ImperiumLibertas Even if you're using a "proper" radio, you can still be disruptive to others. The radio itself has nothing to do with it.
Sad HAM's: Angery😠
Well, "some people" take themselves way too seriously and make the asanine assumption that others do, as well.
I own two of those uv-5r's programmed for GMRS and FRS for Daily use awesome radios.
Rebel
And not registered with the gubmint? 😯
Is there anyway for anybody to find out your transmitting from a baofeng on a gmrs channel?
@@anthonydantona8672 yes and no. You can triangulate any transmitting frequency that's broadcast. So if someone really wanted you they could track you down and see what you're using up close. If you're not being a prick and/or tying up a frequency band and using a call sign nobody is going to care.. Baofengs give up a bit of spurious transmissions, meaning they also transmit on a few frequencies up and or down from the frequency you are intending to transmit on . That being said those emissions are a bit worse on a Baofeng than a dedicated GMRS radio of another brand. So if someone wanted they could make a pretty good guess what you were doing and track you to bust you if they wanted to, but that's very rare and nobody has ever been charged with using a Baofeng on ANY unauthorized channel as long as it doesn't interfere with police or fire departments. I've used Baofengs to talk on FRS, GMRS, HAM and MURS for years and never had anyone say anything to me.
@@anthonydantona8672 yes. But nobody cares as long as you're not causing problems to fire or emergency units.
I will never call my UV5R a Baofeng ever again.... it is now called a BOOFWANG ! I love these videos !
#Boofwanggang
@@dillioncowie5220 has a ring to it 😂
So what radio will you get.?
The best part about using a UV-5R on GMRS is that when the FCC rush at you and say "WE DEMAND TO INSPECT THAT RADIO!!!", you can just boot it into a storm sewer or drop it into the Ohio River and say "What radio?" then buy another 8-pack of them for $27.99 or whatever.
Thanks Randy (from a Happy Ham and GMRS owner) :)
If Edward G. Robinson was alive today I wonder if he would say, "The FCC, see?
SEE!
I’m calling bullshit! I’m more than positive that when the other inmates check your papers in jail and they find out you were Hamming or GMRSing WITHOUT a license they leave you we the f@ck alone! Atleast that’s what I’ve heard from sad Ham’s.
I wonder if the reason that they have not done anything is because rule’s are not law Hmmmmmm😂
Could be, but then the ATF goes after people that break ATF rules but not breaking laws. Do the FCC boys have guns?
I feel somewhat neglected with this video. He didn't tell me I was his favorite viewer or spend 2 minutes telling me how valuable my time is :(
Aahh..gmrs frequensees?..dude..
channels, hammers use frequensees, us GMRS users do channels...👍👍
I'm just here for the expert comments 😮
They will send 100 armed IRS agents to your house and force your oldest daughter into a Marital arrangement with a SAD HAM!?! 🤷
Or they will do nothing to the tens of thousands of “violators” and the world will continue 😂
Kinda like when Dr. Johnny Fever thought the "Matress Cops where after him when he was working a Remote at the transmitter.
I was never interested in radios. This dude has so many funnys for so fars that now I want one. The background music is awesome. Well done.
Ordered some Uv5rs for my kid some walkie talkies not knowing what they are .....saw a few of his vids can already tell I'm gonna do some radio nerdin and go down the rabbit hole
I have been looking at getting some uv5r radios to have as shtf back up communication. I think this video just sold me on getting them no matter what.
especially with GMRS being relatively cheap, and easy to get into.
I only say switch to license-restricted HAM frequencies / other non-gmrs frequencies AFTER a SHTF scenario, because as it stands, HAM radio nerds can be a bunch of losers and generally, if they pry you for your FCC given callsign and you refuse to give it to them while transmitting on HAM bands they probably will report you, most likely because they're a bunch of nerds.
On GMRS frequencies, nobody is going to question you in the slightest, because nobody will ever listen to you in the first place besides your intended comms partners.
In shtf situation, you won't need a license so go for it
My cup of "I give a shit" is full. Oh, crap, I spilled it. Thanks for the video and knowledge you absolute ninja! I was already subscribed so I hit the SUBSCRIBE button twice.
IM GONNA BLOW 8W ON FRS YOU CANT STOP ME
Yes “some people” are full of Crap…… sadly it’s a lot more than just “some”…..
I like how the picture of Adam Schiff for brains got brighter when you were talking about people who are full of crap. Wasn’t it he who invented GMRS?
YOUR GOING TO GET A $10,000 FINE AND GO TO JA,..... OWWW MY FINGER I BROKE IT OMG.
I love Randy’s humor lol “Boofwang” is what I’m calling it from now on. Subscribed. Any chance of reviewing the Persistent Systems MPU5 radio and it’s “smart radio” system compared to other radios?
That's actually the correct pronunciation. It got changed a bit when it hit the overseas market.. but that never made it correctly pronounced.
I love your sense of humor
Always been a little bit of a pirate....never worried about Charlie.
The sophisticated editing techniques to simulate the uv on GMRS was amazing!
Your subliminal cuts crack me up. Adding the beep tone in post processing...genius. It takes me a while to nail the frame with a pause on 0.25 slo-mo but always worth it. (Strange though it makes me crave popcorn like back in the 1960's drive-in movies). I use a lot of eye drops as I have to watch your videos without blinking so I don't miss one. I love the occasional secret codes you throw in too. Glad I was able to get one of your digital decoder rings early on. Does everyone know about this? ... Porkey Pig, glad ham.
Looking forward to the next “sad ham” pinned comment
The FCC is a kind of Soviet agency?
I love you man! You never fail to make me smile & grin every time I watch.
I just changed the badges on all my radios..... Problem solved.....
😂 love all you share, also like your off road clips !
Ham fudds
Well done as always NRP...Love the GAS shirt as well!
Be careful randy Theres a gr00mer on your wall 😂✌🏻
I love your sense of humor! And that poster behind you was the icing on the cake 😂 …You’re an absolute genius 😂😂😂 🙌🙌🙌
What is the poster? I do not get it.
1:40 I don't work for the FCCs. I don't have to follow their rules.
I always thought not being type certified for multiple radio services was just a way to keep the costs down. In all honesty the gmrs boofangs are probably the same radio inside as the ham blaufungs.
The GMRS UV-5R is 100% the same on the inside as the ham version. The only difference is the programming/firmware and a type-acceptance sticker from the FCCs.
I have both radios, guess what!!! I'll write again when I get out.
I used mine on MURS last week.
It would have been interesting to see Randy perform the factory reset unlock routine on the Tidradio GM-5R right after saying the GMRS rules are baked into the radio. I don't have one, so I have no idea if it'd work, but it would be interesting no matter the result.
I'm not entirely sure what gmrs baofeng I have but it's the ones he's reviewed on his channel (UV-5G?)
You can literally just put ham frequency into the radio with chirp and it will transmit
I know this wasn't entirely what you were asking but I thought I'd share
Is there a hack to unlock the GM-5R ?
@@jbr84tx yes.
@@jbr84txI think you just use a cable
@@xexat I have THAT radio (Baofeng UV-5G/Raddiodity UV-5X) and it does NOT transmit on HAM, it is locked to GMRS
Hi Randy, Great video and very true, its a joke because I know people who use ham radios everyday on GMRS with no issues, including Motorola 5000 radios on GMRS. You can hear the chirp tone when they transmit and You know wright away that there Motorola radios.
They've been using them for Years. As long as You dont cause interference and the radio is set wright. No one is going to know or even care. Im sure the FCC knows that this is being done, They just dont want to know about it or have their noses rubbed in it in my
Opinion. Thanks for the education and Facts.
I only use Motorola gear for 2M/440 and wouldn't hesitate to use one on GMRS. What chirp are you talking about on your buddy's Motorola? That MDC1200 squwak/data burst? Lots of other radios are set up to use that, not just /\/\. You can turn it off in the CPS too - I don't have it enabled on any of mine. Though it is sometimes fun to turn it on just to piss off uptight hams who flip out when they hear it, claiming (falsely) "THAT'S ILLEGAL!!!"
whats with shifty shiff?
Well…you’re right. I don’t like this content. But…I do LOVE it! Thank you for elaborating on this topic (that I asked you about in ‘another’ video of yours)! As they say in the big city: “You da man!!!!”
Also….Tidradio TD-H8? Thoughts?
My emissions are anything but spurious and exceptionally clean! My radio, however, not so much.
Isnt the same for PMR ? BF UV-5R is emitting on 446MHz with ~0.65W on low, instead of 0.5W maximum allowed, I don't think anoyone would give a fk about it.
The SECOND an Individual Got LICENSED, Amateur Radio, They are AUTHORIZED to Design, Build & MODIFY their OWN EQUIPMENT! That means they can take a GMRS Radio & MODIFY it for TRANSMISSION on AMATEUR RADIO FREQUENCIES! AE0QG
Oh boy, this poor Baofeng UV-5R, every time I turn around, gets demoted, beaten, kicked all the time!
I have 2 of them, getting scared to use them, may end up in jail or worst electrocuted by big G?
Same goes with these RC Drones!
Hopefully the FCC will have their own SWAT team in the future to catch UV5R users on gmrs.
Maybe they could borrow some from the IRS
Those radio cops play hardball!
😂😂
With the current regime in the white house, don't count it out 😂
They already have the Radio Emergency Tactical Action Response Detachment.
I know you was talking about GMRS, however I thought i would post that on the FCC page it says FRS radios must have permanently fixed antennas. so that gm5r radio can only be used for GMRS not FRS.
Or did they change this rule?
Let them catch me HAHAHA!!
there are More than 100,000 cites and towns in the u.s..
and since a lot of people live outside of a city or town, the f.c.c. would need 600,000 or more employees to catch a small amount of people using a ham HT on GMRS.
GMRS range isn't that good and 5 watts isn't that noticeable.
Breaker, Breaker 1,2,3. Nobody hears you. I repeat,,,,,, Nobody hears you. (i was listening)
I will be honest i wanted to see what the blipped message was so i went back to pause it...
The number of sad sack hams that lost there minds at that moment! It's like a million voices cried out then were suddenly silenced! Oh the giggles this is putting me through, LMAO!
well played sir ...
I can't listen as slow as you communicate. It is annoying.
I'm so sorry you had to go through this! Please let us know if you need any more attention.
If you browse the FCC compliance action database it becomes immediately obvious that the FCC enforcement arm has MUCH bigger fish to fry than the individual operator.
100% true, love the Roger beep at the very end.
I'm a ham and I liked this video, because now I'm going to call them all "Boof-wangs."
Sounds like a good reason to repeatedly say wang on the bands without sounding like profanity "Hi-Hi".
OMG, Please let us know what your prison commissary info is. I have a Beef Wellington I need to send to you!!
My great grandfather came from Germany. So he is well experienced to say "It's boofwang you idiot"
Looking for "One RADIO to rule them all, One Radio to find them, One Radio to bring them all, and under the FCC'c bind them"
I'll stick to my prc-163 & prc-167
Can ya get one for me, bro? $100, cash money! :P (ATTN: To the NSA tech reading this, I AM KIDDING - I am fully aware these are CCI and cost more than my house. Also, let's keep my young brother out of Leavenworth - he had nothing to do with my dumb joke)
I can hear some sad hams inner Greta Thunberg rage, typing "HOW DARE YOU!" I have like 15, 8 watt UV-5R's and all used on GMRS. Full power... I don't use my call sign that much either because no one is listing except who I lent my other handset/s to...
I query you good sir,
What if some enterprising radio dork took an FCC type 95 accepted radio like a “Boof-wang” GM-15 pro and accidentally spilled the firmware for “Boof-wang” UV-13 pro onto it and wound up with “Boof-enstien” radio? 🤔🧐🤨🤪
I kind of remember, back in the day. Long time ago. In the past. There would be kits. Curious peoples. Projects. When all put together, homemade radios were created. I wonder what would happen if I magically increased my intelligence and I put together a radio from junk found on the side of the road, that just happened to meet all of the FCC rules about GMRS radios. Could I talk on said radio while keeping the FCC happy? Does the FCC have to inspect my homegrown radio before I blabber on it, while offroading with my modified, yet still street legel Ranger. As far as I know there are no rules against me talking on my radio, because I do have a GMRS license that I paid 35 bucks for, and I promise I will stay on the official GMRS frequencies, I mean the GMRS channels. Hmmm. I never actually read the rules. I threw them away with my instructions for my UV-5r. Food for thought.
As someone who clearly doesn't know much about radios, if some outlaw was wanting to get a radio, and going into it they knew they were wanting their radio to have access to both ham/GMRS frequencies, would they get the UV5R, or the uV 5G? And, if their radio does access both, would it be considered "Unlocked"??
If you have a radio that is certified for use in another service, EXCEPT AMATUER, then that radio can be used on GMRS if frequency entry is NOT available on the radio, but can be programmed by external means. Here is the Rule: 95.1761 (c): "No GMRS transmitter will be certified for use in the GMRS if it is equipped with a frequency capability not listed in § 95.1763, unless such transmitter is also certified for use in another radio service for which the frequency is authorized and for which certification is also required. No GMRS transmitter will be certified for use in the GMRS if it is equipped with the capabilities to operate in services that do not require equipment certification, such as the Amateur Radio Service. All frequency determining circuitry (including crystals) and programming controls in each GMRS transmitter must be internal to the transmitter and must not be accessible from the exterior of the transmitter operating panel or from the exterior of the transmitter enclosure." This means that a part 90 radio can be used for GMRS as long as frequency cannot be changed via the radio itself. The only drawback to using a Part 90, however, is once you program a channel with frequency and either CTCSS or DCS, you are stuck with that config for that channel and cannot change the "privacy codes" like you can on a GMRS radio!! You do have to adhere to the other parts of the rules such as bandwidth and power out, which is easy for MOST Part 90 radios, which ALSO have more stringent rules for operation.
There are part 90 accepted UV-5R radios out there, but do NOT fall under this clause if you do NOT disable the keyboard. If there is a way to do this, I have NOT found it.
So, as states in the video, GMRS basic rules:
1. Adhere to bandwidth requirements.
2. FRS ch 8 thru 14 are limited to 1/2 a watt.
3. Handhelds are limited to 5 watts with the above exceptions.
4. Mobiles, Repeaters and Base stations are limited 50 watts with the above exceptions.
5. GMRS CAN use an external antenna. There are other limits set , but for most users, will probably not apply. Base and repeater operators may have other requirements from the FAA regarding height and distance from an active airport and antennas above 200 feet AGL may have lighting requirements.
In short, READ the FCC rules in Part 95, and if there are questions, there are ways to contact the FCC for clarification. The video is 99 percent correct for 99 percent of users.
LOl for the quick flash of disclaimer at 1:31 :)
To preach to the proverbial choir, here, and to possibly tweak "Some People"...
1. The FCC has much more important things to worry itself with than one, or two, or even a couple thousand handy-talkies that may not exactly be "spectrally pure." Even connected to an external antenna (base, mobile, extended portable, vibrator from your lady's nightstand, etc), signals from such a rig aren't going to cause the collapse of the United States of 'Merica or anything else.
2. If these radios are so Evilbad, then how and why in hell are they being allowed to be sold to purchasers in the US? See the first sentence of #1, above. The same can also be said about "Export" CB radios that have expanded frequency capability and new-manufacture linear amps that splatter like diarrhea through a ceiling fan. 💩 The interesting thing is that there are some who are making a tidy living from selling all this "illegal" gear. Yay, Capitalism. 💰
3. As far as I and others are concerned, so long as any "questionable" radio gear is operated responsibly (i.e., using it for communicating or rendering aid if necessary, and not making an ass of oneself), then it is no one else's business what gear is being used. Noblesse Oblige, as our French comrades would say.
4. True Story: Years ago after obtaining my Amateur Radio license, someone had the audacity to tell me since I was now a licensed Ham, that it was illegal for me to use CB Radio. I asked for the rule, book, chapter, section, paragraph, and sentence where this was stated. I never got an answer.
Posted 1 Hr ago and nobody pinned yet?? You're slipping Randy!!!
The word is getting around the sad-ham community that they're just making themselves look stupid if they say anything.
@@TheNotaRubiconpeople are catching on you are trying to get someone to troll. Maybe throw in a twist and make a dead serious technical video. It would probably confuse people..
I assume that your door has already been smashed in and your radios destroyed by the FCC Police. Good luck with your $10,000 fine! As a licensed H.A.M. operator of eight months, your simulated tones are in violation of the FCCs.
Doomsday happens... im listening in on frequencies... hello, anyone there over!?
Me - i can't talk too you, i don't have licenses
Randy. Can’t remember a review of the Baofeng GM-15 Pro GMRS. It seems to be a good radio with usb c charging port. Water resistance…. and so on. What do you think about it? Would like to se a complete review from you.
I figured (if/when) shtf comes, who's going to give a (tihs) if you have a license. But I'm going for my "Technician" license for random emergencies' and sporadic communications.
"Certified" or "Type Accepted" HMMMMMM. I use mine on GMRS all the time.
Was that Adam "Pencil Neck" Schiff on your display? Bet he can't hit a fastball better than Steve Garvey.
Unlawful to use just like linear amplifiers on the citizens band radio.
Are these laws or imposed rules like the ATF is attempting to do with firearms following the RCMP tyranny model?
Yes. Its illegal and you should be ashamed of yourself Randy! Promoting this nonsense. This channel should be .zip filed and removed from the internet. Fixed antennas only. Blatant disregard for your own self promotion.
Illegal GMRS transmissions? Sorry Officer you must be mistaken. I lost my Boofwang years ago in a tragic boating accident.
... or we could all just change our last name to Biden and then we would be exempt from ALL laws!!! I hope that wasn't a personalized pic from your next Senator...
Frankly, I’ll use my radio the way I see fit, period! I have it for SHTF anyway and really don’t care what fucc thinks!
Wow 10 years in prison and 250k fine for using a radio to talk? Wow is that a felony? That would be a funny story hey what you in for? Using a radio.. also what even charge is that?
Well we switched out the syrup bottles and threw away the butter with the girl on the label so now I’m wondering if I simply just tear off the label on the UV-5R Baofeng I’ll probably be ok … right