@@mrr4975 Nope I think he means that Asians / Foreigners have overtaken the local / native population in places such as West Ham / Newham / Upton Park and how the Asians / Foreigners feel invaded during footie / match days which is literally hilariously ironic hahaha
Can't believe we are having such a heated debate about this in the UK in 2023. The Brits tip toeing around, terrified of being accused of being far right, while the argument is over something that has nothing to do with this country shows just how oppressed we have become ourselves.
The presenter seemed to be encouraging the stupidity for men of their religious culture to refer to western women as whores because women in the west don’t let a piece of cloth determine how virtuous they seen to be. Culture in all the countries where this religion is practice have a male privilege culture where women are suppressed and seen as a piece of meat 🥩 to bear children and to cook and keep them clean. How degrading the other women is correct in what she was saying. It’s a symbol of suppression and misogynistic. A disgrace and it’s not the scarf but what it represents. 🤮
I stopped in my tracks at that point about King Charles is a multi faith ambassador . No he is King of England and is the underpin of the Church of England.
@@garypautard1069well king Charles ruined it all with that "defender of all faith" phrase. Imo it was ill-advised, trying to win all to your side will only make you lose your core supporters. And its sad that they really have to tip toe around the issue, kept bringing up comparison to Nuns. And when the other lazily interrupted and said ..."you are not free just because you are exposing yourself" that shows her malice and the way they see it : if a woman is not wearing hijab, she is exposing herself! Talk about tactics of a taskmaster.
@@cristybelloNo, they are not. It depends on religious communities. Nuns work in schools, as nurses, in kindergartens, and the majority of that communities is not behind walls.
A nun chooses to wear it. She decides to live as a nun. She doesn’t have the expectation to live like a nun. Muslim women are expected to wear it. But Islam wants womento wear it as a reflection for their inner modesty and piousness. If internally you’re not modest or pious, wearing it would make it a hypocritical act. You’re wearing it for yourself. Please as people let’s stop talking about people’s beliefs like as if we’re “ all-knowing”. We’re not.
@@nisaalam955Humans do not need religion to have constructive morality and ethics. We can respect differences until those differences impede the liberty and equality of any other peaceful, peace-seeking human.
@@lerumovanzyl1953 the laws in this world were created according to religion. How do you know morality ? Where do you learn it from? The aztecs thought that burning their babies was moral for example. Some religions think some things are moral some other things not so much. Like Islam tells you to not drink alcohol as it is immoral and its benefits don’t outweigh the negatives. But this is all to say that our morality is governed by religion. No doubt about it my friend. In Islam humans choose to live life according to the world or live life according to God. Islam doesn’t impede the liberty of humans. Instead it liberates us. Did you know that in Islam women were allowed to divorce their husband long before the west allowed it? Women cover for themselves, and God. As a sign of humility, not disgrace. A woman who knows she’s beautiful doesn’t need to show it to the world to seek external validation. The world is temporary anyways. Once we understand the true meaning behind Islamic acts, people will stop judging based on what they hear or see. These honour killings happening around the world in the NAME of Islam… they are a disgrace to humanity and to the good name of Islam. We don’t condone honor killings. "Do not attempt to take another human being's life, which God made sacred."(Quran, 17:33). And again: "Whoever kills a human being not convicted of murder ( or in self defence) is considered the murderer of all mankind. Whoever saves the life of a single human being is considered to have saved the life of all mankind!" (Quran, 5:32).
she's certainly modest when she speaks, so what modesty does she think she is preserving? not many Christian girls get murdered for what they refuse to wear in the world.
The Quran 33.59 imposes full covering on Muslim women. Why? To avoid being molested by Muslim men. That is why Muslim men feel they can molest any uncovered woman any time they want. 🤣
@Kleoptra calling a hijab a scarf is like calling a crucifix a necklace. when was the last time you heard of a Christian girl getting murdered for what she chose not to wear?
Spot on shame on the UK Public for no banning this evil forced on some little girls even today In GBUK and women from on day one our evil puppet controlled politicians obeying orders used it later as s weapon to divide and cause hate
So much for modesty when she is speaking over another person who has the floor. She was given her chance to speak, and she spoke of modesty while contradicting the value she was claiming to promote by speaking over another person. Hypocrite! The hijab is a sign of submission.
The contrary thing is that the woman on the left has her hair uncovered, but wears virtually no makeup, and is probably considered 'unmodest' by Islamic standards, but the Muslim woman on the right, while she wears a head scarf, has a full face of glamorous makeup on and yet is considered 'modest'. I don't understand the double standards here. Is the woman on the right really considering her whole appearance just for herself and God, when she's wearing so much makeup? Furthermore, the man almost points this hypocrisy out by saying that she's very attractive. Is he not supposed to look upon her and find her beautiful, when she is using almost every 21st century trick in the book to appear more beautiful and glamorous in the eyes of all who see her?
The make up is to make us think they have freedom. Truth is they are controlled in every aspect of their lives and the hijab represents that truth. I remember the story of Benaz and my heart will always hurt over the awful way in which she was killed, by her uncle, cousins (all male family members). Woman are not respected in that culture at all. They are suppose to love and enjoy beatings they get for the least offense. I thank God I did not grow up in a religion that only respect the men. There is nothing attractive about the muslim faith that has little to no care or concern about the women. The women who go along with this are either brainwashed or fearful of their lives point blank period.
I suppose if you want to look attractive to men and you have horrible hair then they can excuse the hair being covered due to religion and then apply full face make-up
Just shows the hijab wearing lady's ignorance on modesty with full make up and not what male dominated religions are about. Afghanistan has just shut all women's salons as haram and un Islamic
Challenge to all Muslim ladies who says Hijab is a choice..set up a small camera and say to your father, brother and husband..i will not wear hijab..lets see the honest reaction.
Challenge to all Non-muslim ladies ..set up a small camera and say to your father, brother and husband..i will wear hijab and become a Muslim ..lets see the honest reaction
@@WeeeAffandi challenge to Mulsim set up camera and tell your father and mother that u give up Islam and converting to other religion. Let's see the reaction.
"These are isolated incidents" These are whole countries, and quite a lot of them. This woman is either brainwashed or she's malevolently lying to push an agenda. She really shows her culture by interrupting rudely all the time
Typical of these misguided people . In Iran, women are wanting to rid of this garb , and not being sentenced to death under sharii laws , fir notvwearing this .
A lot of your culture, habits are strange to other ppl, the whole world is not just YOU. You can take off all your clothes and she can not wear a hijab. Strange very strange. 🙄
Wherever Islam spreads it's evil tentacles it brings domination death and destruction. The only religion in the world that advocates conversion or death to non believers.
None of the participants had done any research into the reason Muslim women have to cover up. None of them even mentioned the Quranic verse that orders them to do so. Quran 33.59.
I've been to Cairo twice and came to the realization that women have no other choice but to wear hijab in this country. In Cairo with its 20+ million people, I saw only two girls not wearing hijab: one was walking down a busy street and everyone was staring at her as she was from a different planet and the other girl was in a special area where rich young people hang out in the city.
Okay let’s please not lie here, I’m from Egypt and I myself live in Cairo and I am not veiled and neither are most of my friends and the people that go to my university and wherever I go (malls, cafes, etc..) there’s a mix of both. People who are veiled and those who aren’t. So please let’s not spread misinformation :)
I just wish Britain didn't have to *care* one way or another. I miss the days when we weren't talking about Islam all the time. Our culture is being conquered, and all we care about is not offending this creed.
@@sabinamarciniak7552our culture our heritage our history is British. From the RF to the constitution to the commonwealth . That's 2.4 billion people. History of our Kings and Queens, knights and all the rest. We won't be giving it up for Anyone. Come to our country and fit in or go . Our ancestors would've killed any invaders coming in via Trojan horses . They had a Point
I read that.. Makeup is haraam Shaping the eyebrows is haraam Going out in public places without a male guardian is haraam Talking to strange men is haraam ? I was asked to check surah al azab 59?
… it seems being born a woman is pretty much Haram, by modern western standards. I bet they cannot sing or dance or god forbid be joyfull or show happiness either.
no..... they dont want other men to want to r@pe their wives. those countries are not like ours. you should go to a really fkd up place in the world for a year and get out of that sheltered life you live now. youll learn something.
Exactly! they are completely blind to their own ridiculous hypocrisy. It's just absurd that a woman should be made to feel ashamed of her own hair, and that she has to hide it from God and strangers.
modesty doesn't mean not looking pretty or presentable. Countres where women are covered from head toe still have sexual harrassment and rape issues so it's not hpw people look the problem. it's sickeness in people's mind regardless of race and religion.
I think they should be banned as in France....piles of make up but has to cover her hair in case she inflamed a man.....go back to a country where a hijab is welcomed.Islamic men want to cover up their women but in many UK cuties are happy to groom girls as sex slaves..they consider white women are trash to be used for sex..double standards.....Islamic women on this type of show are always Shouty..oh and modern nuns do not often wear a veil..which dates back to pre mediaeval times..well before Islam began...Why does a six year girl need to look modest...she is just a child for goodness sake.
@KleoptraA cross does not cover her . A cross does not prevent a man seeing her hair. Why not teach men to respect women. Why not teach and insist that men not have sex with a nine year old.
She is covering up because her husbands and the local community are telling her. If she stopped wearing it, the husband and the community would start the intimidation to put it back on. She is just too embarrassed to admit it.
A non British problem foisted on the people along with a raft of other problems courtesy of replacement levels of immigration. We should have banned all non British attire for all public services and never given in as alternative countries were always available and you chose Britain so fit in or go.
One of Britain's greatest strengths is its inclusion, diversity, and equality. People from any colour, race, or religion can follow their culture or religion. That's the beautiful thing about Britain, however theres always hate mongers like yourself ready to hop on a soap 📦 on any given opportunity. Get a life Pal!
exactly! When we go to their country, God forbid us being dressed "inappropriately"! They will look at you like you're naked and ready to be r*ped on the spot
It's simple once a woman can choose to go across an entire city without it, in a country where they are forced to wear it. Without getting killed or arrested. We won't talk about it anymore.
@@Jman-uz6gp I know, growing up one of the neighbors was a Muslim family. They were very progressive in that they retained parts of their faith. But in practice was very secular in the same vain of people who mainly go to church for funerals and weddings. Luckily social media was not a thing so they only had to pretend that they were "good Muslims" whenever family members would visit them. Our parents had to explain to us kids that during those visits we couldn't play or hangout like usual. And the women had to play dress up and do all the work that the family normally shared. Even other Muslim families that didn't even live near us would call each other. Putting on an act just in case someone saw them around town, living integrated lives. When I was in my teens we had moved. I became friends with a Muslim girl who started dating one of my best friends. When family members found out she had a white boyfriend. They sent her back "home" to a country she had never been in her entire life. Because she had committed a sin but it could be salvaged since she was still a virgin. So it was decided it was for the best that at 14 she would need to marry an adult man. She managed to get a hold of a phone, called my friend and told him what was happening, begging for help. Since she just vanished one day and the parents wouldn't tell us why she wasn't at school or at home. Him and his parents tried to get child services involved, and were ready to take custody of her if that is what it took. They were told there was nothing they could do because they were not her legal guardians. And were told it would be a political nightmare if they were to go after the parents for having abandoned their daughter. Because it could be viewed as not having religious tolerance. Her final text to my friend she said she couldn't take it anymore. Her husband treated her as his personal servant. And he needed to teach her how to get rid of the western influence. So when she found out that she was pregnant she sent the text and then jumped. So when I would debate people later in life and they accused me of being Islamophobic. I always ask them to be spesific and tell them those two stories. If it's phobic to be against people having to pretend they are religious enough in fear of reprisal. Or being against forcing girls to become child brides, then I'm guilty as charged. But then you must also say that I'm Catholic-phobic since I'm not a fan of what priests has been doing either and all the other problems various religions has caused. So you can't really charge me with having a problem against people with different skin pigmentation. I have a problem with bad ideas getting spread.
@@dcworld4349 That's quite terrible what happened to your friend. You are correct its not about race or skin color at all. It's religious ideas that hurt people that have no place in modern society. All the best to you.
Girl, please get a life with your paranoid. A. S. S you look like you haven't even been out on your own just yet. Trust me. You have no idea what's out of the world. Get a clue before you start making senseless judgment. You're judging people and projecting about your thoughts. Don't do that, don't Assume
@@M4RV3ymYes , hate , and they will not impose their culture on a freedom peoples ofva democracy . Islamic religion picks an chooses what to believe , what to eat , how to sleep , go to bathroom , and what religion to believe .
@JohnEglick-pl1sb who is imposing culture on you. Let us Muslims do our thing and you do your thing I'm not telling you how to eat,sleep,how to go to bathroom,or anything let us live the way we want Don't impose your western caner on us.
I'm tired of this nonsense that people always pretend that the hijab is a piece of clothing worn voluntarily. If it were, women would simply take it off at customs or at borders for inspection, but they don't because it's suddenly not voluntary after all, but forced on them, whether by male family members or a false understanding of religion.
Go to sleep then . And that’s your opinion that it’s a false understanding of religion . I’m sick and tired of women having to explain themselves to bigots.
I call BS on this choice thing. In college I had grown friends frightened of their families. They couldn’t receive phone calls, talk openly to men ( friends )or be seen walking with their friends if their family caught them they would get a beating and have school privileges taken from them. This was the 80’s nothing has changed.
My muslim friends has mullah visiting them atleast twice a weak after school for preaching, he would put lot of diktats which is prohibited for female even as a child , they feared the day he visited & would wipe out nail polish etc to convince him , else they are beaten up 😢. And women in coastal hot sweaty climate throughout year in Indian coastal region wear black burka, only eyes are open. They walk like this under sun home from school. While we are sweaty in normal uniforms. I don’t know if our climates suites this arabic dress . Most Muslims women are found at doctors especially skin specialists.
I feel this religion really justifies the collective bad side of the male brain- leads to justified beatings and living in fear. It disturbs me when a female of this religion has had “good males” in her family allowing and supporting her education. And allowing that to be the only narrative! That’s not the case for a big percentage of the females that are forced to behave I fear of beating ostacization even death.
The sad thing is that their holy book prohibits its followers to live in countries governed by non-muslims. All illegal, violent "immigrants" are therefore happily going all to hell, or are soldiers invading for a future bloody jihad.
Hehe, well said! You'll never get a response from the hooded ones because they can't deny this sad fact of threats and violence, suffered by hundreds of millions of girls and women.
How does a "culture" that treats women like 2nd class citizens allowed to get away with this? It shows no attempt in integrate or assimilate into a country. And is there any mention of the women of Iran who rose up against wearing this symbol of oppression and who have been brutally put down by the regime?
Ikr, much better to have a culture that oppresses young men and chemically castrates children and chops parts off of young people to put new bits on lol.
Pity we real white Christian people can't make these uncivilised immigrants follow our laws and live like a real British person instead of allowing them to practise their uncivilised ways in our Christian country!
Any mention of the women in france forced to remove it you guys are hypocrite when Muslim women are killed by your religion soldiers and countries all over the world on jndia china Africa the Middle East nobody hear y’all but all of sudden you care about Muslim women and choose what is oppressive on their behalf
Khadija is spot on, it also shapes the way non-Muslim women are viewed, you'd have to be wilfully ignorant to suggest otherwise. And if there's "no compulsion in religion" then why is the penalty for apostasy death?
"it also shapes the way non-Muslim women are viewed" As we saw with the grooming gangs - white children were regarded as being unworthy of respect because they were infidels.
A stupid useless debate. Why? Because not a single person present quoted the Quranic verse 33.59 that IMPOSES full covering on Muslim women to prevent them being molested by the Prophets companions! 😂
the bible says 1 Corinthians 11:3-15, Paul writes that if a woman is to be so immodest as to wear her hair uncovered while praying or prophesying in a Christian assembly she might as well shave her head. Paul instructs the Corinthians that it is “one and the same” for a woman to have her head shaved and for her to unveil her hair.. ppl call themselvs Christian?
No it’s called holding them accountable and stopping spread of intentional misinformation information and false narrative- Khadija looks bitter period!
As a Nigerian wait till you see moderate Muslims, your everyday friends, colleagues, justify and defend the genocide of millions of Christians.. From all Indicators you guys are getting there in no long time this whole discussion will move to the defence of the slaughters of western kafirs and the custodians of free speech..
Yup. Terrorism victimises entire societies beyond those immediately killed or injured. And yet, the people who are literally terrified of terrorists are supposedly the bad guys. Mind bending logic.
@@rtube420 Don't worry it s coming to an end very soon, just sit tight and watch what happen's in our country, yes our country in the next couple of years. You will not see it coming.
Weak response from GB female presenter. Fearful of speaking the truth. And this sculpture depicting hijab women is an Insult to womens rights and frightening chapter in the demise of UK!
@@noelpucarua2843 your either a recent arrival or embracing the changes. Majority of white indigenous people who Grandfather's, Great Grandfather's who s roots belong to a European Christian society will unambiguous state that this country is deteriorating rapidly . Crime , mental illness, mass immigration, cannot see a doctor, dentist, mass murders by religious fanatics, general instability in society. The list is endless.
@@noelpucarua2843the millions of so called "asylum seekers" flooding in for years now. The blatant power grab by foreigners pushing the whole "white supremacist" bullsh*t trying to revise white people out of history. The diminishing of our rights and freedoms and the erasure of "white" culture to push "diversity and equity". Christians being attacked all over the world. Christians being arrested for praying or reading their Bibles in public. I mean the list goes on.
Who's getting raped all over the world?? Men or women?? Women wear hijab to protect themself from the dirty eyes of the evil people. And just think what will happen if a women marries four men. There will be a severe clash in the family and a women can give birth to only one of the husband's baby at a time biologicaly . But this doesn't apply to men.
I don't know about 4 that's a bit much. Maybe to that's still pushing the envelope. But still it's very complex to deal with the multiple different personalities. Can't make everybody happy
@@atiqaly6567 The news says Banaz was killed after leaving an abusive marriage and falling in love with another man. As for Mahsa, she was arrested for not wearing the hijab properly and was severaly beaten by the poilce officers and she later died.
Where did you get that statement from? I wear the hijab because I want to; not because my partner tells me to wear it. In fact he wouldn’t care if I decided to take it off one day. My choice for wearing a scarf is for God and God-only.
@@fatimaali3651What I take from your statement is that Muslim women are more than willing to follow Muslim customs whilst men are less inclined to do so. In reality although you personally have the choice as to whether you want to or not many women are forced by men to ‘cover up’. In the West that is a crime because Western women have for years worked to have equal rights yet men still have the power to force their women to cover up despite Western freedoms for women to make their own choice.
@@fatimaali3651 Many women are fighting for different & living in fear in another country for not wanting to wear it! So I guess it's a debate with different angles, that ppl need to have to understand.
@@belindakennedy5828When did you find the time to try arguing with ALL the Muslims? Haven't you got a job? Remember, benefits scroungers are NOT cool.
I also found it ironic for her to promote values of modesty while talking over another person. Like instead of covering your head, maybe cover your mouth and listen?
Last year, on a searing hot July say, on a beach in Dorset that was holding an annual volleyball event with championships for professionals and lots of nets for holiday makers to play, there was a group of Muslim men playing, wearing shorts and vest tops. Their wives, covered from head to foot, some in a niqab, were huddled against the promenade wall or in the shelters for shade. I thought Muslim men were supposed to dress modestly too so yes, seeing the men dressed like westerners and the women muffled up I'd say it's misogynistic attire.
That is typical of how they behave in the Middle East in 45 degree weather. The women don't have any choice or they would be denounced as sluts even by their own families and other women.
@@yakovshani240 I agree with all you say which is why I have no time for almost all organised religion, much of which I regard as basically evil. Many don't understand that when people talk about equality, they are talking about equality of opportunity, not equality of being which, as you state, cannot be because of the biological differences, although, in that respect, I cannot argue with the 'equal but different' concept in the same was as 3 +3 = 6, but so does 2+2+2, 1+5 etc equal 6 but in a different way.
You paint a dismal picture and of course there is nothing more dismal than being covered in bed sheet in hot weather .Also I was taught by nuns at school and the difference between their attire which had a full skirt ,extremely elegant and the muslim kit is like night and day .V
@@joangrennan886 IT WAS dismal, that's what struck me most of all ( and the hypocrisy of the men who are also supposed to dress modestly ). If the women had looked relaxed and happy I would not have noticed so much but they looked utterly miserable.
Do you want only one point of view and do you think that point of view should be Reform? If you want people to be able to vote for Reform you'd better allow people to think as they wish. Of course, allowing people to think as they wish is MULTICULTURALISM. Not everyone chooses to vote reform and not everyone can tell people what to think.
She has an air of arrogance. But when you consider that Islam is a supremacist doctrine the teaches its followers that they are superior to all other people, well, that could explain the attitude. Looking down her nose at the kuffars perhaps.
@@run2cat4run there were far less feet on the ground in places like India than the other way round now yet and you would say that was wrong? So are u a huge hypocrite then ???
@@run2cat4run Making third world countries better? Giving them clean water, food, all the things they take for granted today? We've never left a country in a worse state then we found it, these people just come in like lotus and strip mine a country, destroying the local culture and then moving on to do it to another country. They've trashed their own country and are doing the same to ours.
That goes against your western values of freedom and liberty they should be free to do what they want as long as it doesn’t harm someone that’s your values so stick with it
Europe is not Christian but Rather a secular including its constitutional law. In Europe Darwin’s evolution theory is directly against Christianity you teach it to the children in schools. Children are thought that we are not created by god, you can be gender fluid change, transgender,homosexual and man can marry a man which is of course a major sin in Christianity. So let’s get this straight you live in a secular Democracy with values that allows freedom of speech and freedom to practice what ever faith religion you chose
The very word "Islam" means "submission". It's heartbreaking that they don't realize the mental and spiritual oppression they are under. Most are compelled by their society and culture to adhere to the traditions. One Algerian woman living in the UK (and essentially free from the hold her parents had over her right up to her 40s) told me that British people can never understand how much of a stronghold the family is in these cultures...
No religion does really. Just believe in God or don't and try to be a good person. Religion hasn't made any of the evil go away. I feel it more or less just perpetuated it and brought us to where we are to begin with.
The reason to cover the hair and most of the body is down to the men having control over their women, after all the women and girls are less than second class citizens. I have observed this on a daily basis, the men and boys given extreme preference, leading to extreme misogyny.
@TheRandompaint They make even little child to wear it for a reason. They condition them from childhood. They make those girls from childhood to believe that this is how they should be for rest of their life. They condition their mind saying man marrying many women is normal thing. They just normalize husband beating wife. Their book says that men can beat their wife to keep them under control.
Lady made the point about many Brits going to live in places like Spain and not really learning the language and fully entering the culture - which is true. On the other hand, the Brits don't try to impose their religion on the native population, or call them unpleasant names, or seek to change the laws of the host country.
Indeed or committed to threaten to throw the non confirming off the highest building. Its sugar coated by that young lady for now just wait until the religion finds its teeth. Pure Medieval thoughts alive and kicking.
They should learn the languages though. If you want to move to another country it should be because you appreciate or admire the culture. The only reason we as british get away with it, is because most places speak English to a certain extent.
Brits have history of taking over other people's countries, making laws for them to obey, pushed their religion on them, took the resources of the country and enforced it all with their army.
There are a lot of people who have lived in this country, for 50 or more years, and are unable to speak English. That is why a lot of money is spent on interpreters. No other country does this, you learn the language or you pay for your own interpreter.
The woman wearing the hijab keeps saying she chooses to wear it. People “choose” for different reasons and sometimes your choice isn’t yours from the start.
@@LifeIsThePrayer If "it makes her feel safer" then this means that her brothers in faith are absolutely ALLOWED to molest and rape those girls and women who don't wear the arabian hood, right? Because it's happening constantly in the West and the left-wing mass media tries by all means to cover up those crimes (helping the local people to begin to vote for right wing parties, see Holland).
you know what, every parent have to give the parental rules to their children but at a certain age a children have a choices to worship what they want thats all!
Why don’t they have the courage of your convictions and faith …..by leaving the west and living in a Muslim country Otherwise it’s just a token gesture…..go make your Muslim countries better
It is true to the fact that, the countries which consider islam as it’s religion forces the women to cover their body and these atrocities and brutalities upon women for disobeying the muslim misogynistic laws for the repression of woman are unacceptable.
Actually, even the C of E has admitted it is no longer a Christian country. More and more are leaving the Church. I think that is a good thing. Religion should not be privileged in any waý. We are a secular country and thank goodness for that.
I wrote about this way back in the 1990s as a political columnist in a secular country, Malta, and I ended up losing my journalistic career because of this. Ended up muzzled and censored and eventually in a criminal court. So, Khadija Khan is totally correct in what she says. Women in Muslim countries do NOT have a choice! It is totally misogynistic and is especially unacceptable in secular western societies, in my opinion. I wonder why Fahima did not allow Khadija to speak the truth about how Muslim women suffer in silence and often end up murdered or stoned to death just because they show some part of their bodies. Fahima knows that that is a common practice among Muslims. She just didn't want us to hear it expressed by a fellow Muslim woman! And shame on the presenters for not stopping Fahima from butting in constantly and trying to drown Khadija's speech.
@@noelpucarua2843 If they really wish to, i.e. without the religious and cultural pressures, yes, I will support whatever. On the other hand, when you are domiciled in a foreign country, you can't take your culture with you. You would do better to adapt to the new host country's culture.
@@szendrichSo, every Brit speaks the language of the country they live in, is that your point? Our is it just your wild imagination? My experience in numerous countries proves you wrong.
@@noelpucarua2843 Who's talking about language here? We're talking about cultural practices. As a woman, I find it offensive to see other women being treated as less then. Many Western women feel the same way. We've fought for equality for centuries. The hijab is to me a symbol of women's suppression and lack of freedom. That's my point.
The female host's perspective is misguided. It's inherently misogynistic! Muslim men have the freedom to wear what they choose, while Muslim women face severe restrictions. Women who refuse to comply with these dress codes often risk their lives. In contrast, nuns won't face lethal consequences if they decide to remove their religious attire. It's crucial to recognize this stark difference!
Oppressive is when you're a slave of the society you live in! In the west women are seen as visual creatures and are objectified and overtly sexualised, you can't deny that! Just look at Hollywood, music industry, porn industry or the music industry? You're oppressing your women by using them as mere commodities for sexual gratification! Go rescue them! The west is going through a pandemic of body dismorphia where women are changing the way they look because of the pressure society and your culture imposes on them! Brazilian butt implants, lip fillers, boob jobs, face lifts, botox the list is endless, and to top it off, you're taking away women's rights by calling them "cis women"? BTW Can you answer the most controversial question on western TV, what is a women??!😂
you think gb news is a valid choice right? its just a different part of the same machine. its moulding your mind from another angle than the bbc because your mind is already primed in their chosen direction they wish to herd you and you dont even realise that.
The scarf should have covered more if her chest area , otherwise what’s the point of wearing it and with makeup on top of that ? We can still see the shape of her hair under her scarf , it’s funny how some of these hijabi girls say they’re wearing the scarf but don’t know how to tie it properly and are actually using it as a fashion statement coz they still wanna “look cute “ wearing it , they’re all over hijabi-tok
The idea of the hijab, apparently (no where in the quran), is modesty and not to be stared at by men, and here is this lady with lipstick and mascara precisely to look attractive. And in a secular democracy where she can say what she likes. Honestly, they should relocate to Muslim countries and try and live there rather than creating controversy after controversy in the West
It is double standards, she wants to look `modest` but covers her face in make-up, lipstick and mascara. No doubt she gets her nails done regularly as well. Just saying.
Full covering for Muslim women is mandated by Allah in the Quran. Chapter 33 verse 59. 'So that they may be recognised and not molested.' 😁 Other women are fair game of course. 😂
Women don't solely wear makeup to attract men, women like men like to express themselves as they have done for millenia! Personal adornment is a fundamental trait that differentiates us from all other species & is at the core of us being human.
..30. Tell the believing men; they should lower their gaze and protect their chastity; this will make their lives purer. Allah is fully aware of what they do. 31. And tell the believing women; they too should lower their gaze, protect their chastity, and not expose their beauty except what is visible, and their head covers should be stretched over their breasts. They should only display beauty to their husbands, fathers, father in law, their sons, husband’s sons, brothers, nephews, nieces, women, slave maids, elderly male servants free of sexual desires, and children who are naive of women’s nakedness. Neither should they stamp their feet to draw attention to their hidden beauty. Believers turn to Allah in repentance together, so you may be successful. Not in the Holy Quran I hear you say?? I just showed you one verse from the Quran and there's plenty more! Don't go around preaching what you don't know like this pathetic women who thinks she's a Muslim yet doesn't know the basics of Islam!
Anyone pick up where she said "you're not free just because you want to expose yourself" basically saying the other woman should cover up, yet she has the cheek to say wearing the hijab is a choice
She is not saying to cover her up. It's a simple thing freedom is not being naked or wearing less clothes, freedom is a very big term. It includes freedom of education, economy, speech,expression, clothing, voting rights etc.
@@jumblestiltskin1365You complaining is a visible sign of you trying to play the victim. By the way, it is "fewer hijabs" not "less hijabs". Maybe you should integrate and learn English.
Truth. Shxite community, you actually have Muslim mullahs Turning up at houses now,.....FFS ....sick of this. I say 20% of Muslims in the UK are sick of it, wish the government could ban this tripe
It’s so creepy for Men and women to tell a woman how she should dress, did we all forget her body her choice.The triple standard is shocking and embarrassing
no one tells anyone from the Quran to do anything. Truth stand out from lies and there is no compulsion in religion. Chapter 2/256 Quran. This is the religion. Men grow beards women wear scarves and cover their adornments. This is to protect women and men from immorality so that we can progress in innovative critical, logical, rational and reasonable solutions to advance. Alcohol gambling and nakedness is not progressive in society rather it’s a dangerous evil force of exploitation in men and women. Look at female pop stars what are they teaching girls that naked is ok. No it is immoral and indecent and it creates bad thoughts in men and seriously diverts progressive thinking.
When ever I’ve seen women out with their male partners whilst wearing full or partial face/head coverings it’s noticeable that the men wear western clothing which suggests it’s the women who adhere to the Muslim culture either voluntarily or forcibly .
As I've just commented, on a searing hot July day last year on a local beach, Muslim men were playing volleyball in shorts and vest tops while their wives, muffled up from head to foot, a couple with only their eyes showing, tried to find shade.
I’ve seen …even in Dubai..the men wear shorts flip flops T shirts ….the woman fully covered .in searing heat …walking behind their men ….so sad ..all in the name of religion..we don’t want it here ….
@@joancline4844while women in the western world are treated like second class citizens in the work place, raped while at work, the institution of marriage is not existent, partners cheating with other people, pornography is an epidemic in all age groups from kids to adults…. This is western society for you!!! Clean up your own houses first before commenting on others
@@joancline4844 ‘Don’t want it here’ such hypocrisy considering you went to a Muslim country Dubai and probably wore a bikini at the beach😂😂 I don’t think the people of Dubai wanted that there either
@@Prankcallish haha ..no way would I ever wear a bikini ..and when walking about I always am fully covered …respecting the laws of the land ……and Dubai is totally geared up for western visitors it’s their lively hood ….I was making an observation about the clothes .the local woman wear compared to the local men …I can have an opinion like you have …well at least in this country up to date You can !……and no I don’t like to see woman suffering in searing heat …all to please a man ..
@@jay.jay. Really? And what about the command of your Creator for men to lower your gaze to avoid sin? What about the command of your Creator for women to go out of the house ALWAYS with a mahram, when they go to school, university, shopping, driving, etc in the sinful West but don't do? See? It not your Creator you taqiyya experts follow but only what YOU desire.
@@jay.jay. Please explain why the Iranian women began to throw away the chador and hundreds were imprisoned, raped and even killed for showing dead cells (hair).
I live in a large populated muslim area and i always have more respect for muslim women who dont wear it because its likely at some point they had to defy the opinion, threats or indoctrination from some fanatical loon
@jj-yi1ne British people aren’t forcing them to wear or refrain from wearing the hijab, so there isn’t any indoctrination on the part of the Brits. If a Muslim man tries to force a woman to wear it against her will that would be in line with indoctrination.
Why? Because they do as you want then to by disrespecting their own culture and faith and being forced and indoctrinated Into believing in your secular Liberal nonsense?!
That's what Muslims do... Watch any debate with them involved. Usually fists start flying, all in the peaceful name of Islam 😂... at the end of the day, they oppress thier little girls by indoctrinating them into hilter youth style beliefs and mindsets!
I have no problem with women wearing the Hijab IF that’s their choice what I do have a problem is seeing little girls wearing one. They obviously haven’t been given the choice have they? Why would a parent do this? It’s brainwashing
O.K, why do I see western women dress their 9/10 year old in transparent figure hugging leggings where you can see their butt cracks and boob tube or a bikini? Why do you make children wear your cultural attire like jeans a short tops? Are you not sexualising your children? Why would you do that?
Thing is most of the time little girls want to wear it cos they want to look like their mothers or older sisters. Children tend to copy their older family members and enjoy doing that. It’s not that controversial like cmon it’s ridiculous having this debate about hijab. 25% of the world population is Muslim that’s 1 in 4 people, it’s not controversial or abnormal, we as British people just need to move on from this pointless debates
Exactly...it is false modesty......some of these women inafrican countries wert and are shaking their butties to tiktok....I find that so hilarious.....why have your head covered and the shape of your backside is being shown through your clothing and shaken to a worldly music best.....I want to understand that.....
@@noelpucarua2843 That's precisely the problem. You think that shows multicultural accommodation and puts us on a pedestal. In fact it makes us look weak in the eyes of those you are trying to impress. Waken up !
"Force to wear it" Just yesterday I went out to get groceries and over heard a lady saying she was called into a family meeting for not wearing hijab where all manner negative words was spoken to her.
They're going against the religion of Islam by forcing someone to wear hijab. In Islam is it not permissible to force anyone to wear hijab so they're sinning by placing that force. It's every women's choice if they wear it or not. Simple as that. That's what PRACTICING Muslims follow.
The very fact we in Britain have to have this debate in the first place proves how broken and invaded we really are.
When football season starts you are definitely not invaded it’s the other way round
@@mohammedibrar3299wtf are you talking about
@@Welshwolf62he’s talking about the amount of Muslim fans being at games but then it’s ok as they’re supporting the same team as you!!!
@@mrr4975 Nope I think he means that Asians / Foreigners have overtaken the local / native population in places such as West Ham / Newham / Upton Park and how the Asians / Foreigners feel invaded during footie / match days which is literally hilariously ironic hahaha
Excellently stated. Nothing more to add
Can't believe we are having such a heated debate about this in the UK in 2023. The Brits tip toeing around, terrified of being accused of being far right, while the argument is over something that has nothing to do with this country shows just how oppressed we have become ourselves.
The presenter seemed to be encouraging the stupidity for men of their religious culture to refer to western women as whores because women in the west don’t let a piece of cloth determine how virtuous they seen to be. Culture in all the countries where this religion is practice have a male privilege culture where women are suppressed and seen as a piece of meat 🥩 to bear children and to cook and keep them clean. How degrading the other women is correct in what she was saying. It’s a symbol of suppression and misogynistic. A disgrace and it’s not the scarf but what it represents. 🤮
I stopped in my tracks at that point about King Charles is a multi faith ambassador . No he is King of England and is the underpin of the Church of England.
@@garypautard1069well king Charles ruined it all with that "defender of all faith" phrase. Imo it was ill-advised, trying to win all to your side will only make you lose your core supporters. And its sad that they really have to tip toe around the issue, kept bringing up comparison to Nuns.
And when the other lazily interrupted and said ..."you are not free just because you are exposing yourself" that shows her malice and the way they see it : if a woman is not wearing hijab, she is exposing herself! Talk about tactics of a taskmaster.
Brits v British passport holders here.
@@obajuluwaoluwatomisin3883 The "build back better" phrase is also troubling.
Nuns do not get murdered for choosing not to cover.
Nuns live appart from society! They are mostly into their nunhouses
@@cristybelloNo, they are not. It depends on religious communities. Nuns work in schools, as nurses, in kindergartens, and the majority of that communities is not behind walls.
A nun chooses to wear it. She decides to live as a nun. She doesn’t have the expectation to live like a nun. Muslim women are expected to wear it. But Islam wants womento wear it as a reflection for their inner modesty and piousness. If internally you’re not modest or pious, wearing it would make it a hypocritical act. You’re wearing it for yourself. Please as people let’s stop talking about people’s beliefs like as if we’re “ all-knowing”. We’re not.
@@nisaalam955Humans do not need religion to have constructive morality and ethics. We can respect differences until those differences impede the liberty and equality of any other peaceful, peace-seeking human.
@@lerumovanzyl1953 the laws in this world were created according to religion. How do you know morality ? Where do you learn it from? The aztecs thought that burning their babies was moral for example. Some religions think some things are moral some other things not so much. Like Islam tells you to not drink alcohol as it is immoral and its benefits don’t outweigh the negatives. But this is all to say that our morality is governed by religion. No doubt about it my friend.
In Islam humans choose to live life according to the world or live life according to God. Islam doesn’t impede the liberty of humans. Instead it liberates us. Did you know that in Islam women were allowed to divorce their husband long before the west allowed it? Women cover for themselves, and God. As a sign of humility, not disgrace. A woman who knows she’s beautiful doesn’t need to show it to the world to seek external validation. The world is temporary anyways. Once we understand the true meaning behind Islamic acts, people will stop judging based on what they hear or see. These honour killings happening around the world in the NAME of Islam… they are a disgrace to humanity and to the good name of Islam. We don’t condone honor killings.
"Do not attempt to take another human being's life, which God made sacred."(Quran, 17:33). And again: "Whoever kills a human being not convicted of murder ( or in self defence) is considered the murderer of all mankind. Whoever saves the life of a single human being is considered to have saved the life of all mankind!" (Quran, 5:32).
I don’t get the hijab. Plastered in make up is ok, high heels are ok, as long as you’re wearing a bedsheet on your head?
she's certainly modest when she speaks, so what modesty does she think she is preserving?
not many Christian girls get murdered for what they refuse to wear in the world.
The Quran 33.59 imposes full covering on Muslim women. Why? To avoid being molested by Muslim men. That is why Muslim men feel they can molest any uncovered woman any time they want. 🤣
@Kleoptra calling a hijab a scarf is like calling a crucifix a necklace.
when was the last time you heard of a Christian girl getting murdered for what she chose not to wear?
Spot on shame on the UK Public for no banning this evil forced on some little girls even today In GBUK and women from on day one our evil puppet controlled politicians obeying orders used it later as s weapon to divide and cause hate
Or married as kids🤔
So much for modesty when she is speaking over another person who has the floor. She was given her chance to speak, and she spoke of modesty while contradicting the value she was claiming to promote by speaking over another person. Hypocrite! The hijab is a sign of submission.
The contrary thing is that the woman on the left has her hair uncovered, but wears virtually no makeup, and is probably considered 'unmodest' by Islamic standards, but the Muslim woman on the right, while she wears a head scarf, has a full face of glamorous makeup on and yet is considered 'modest'. I don't understand the double standards here. Is the woman on the right really considering her whole appearance just for herself and God, when she's wearing so much makeup? Furthermore, the man almost points this hypocrisy out by saying that she's very attractive. Is he not supposed to look upon her and find her beautiful, when she is using almost every 21st century trick in the book to appear more beautiful and glamorous in the eyes of all who see her?
The make up is to make us think they have freedom. Truth is they are controlled in every aspect of their lives and the hijab represents that truth. I remember the story of Benaz and my heart will always hurt over the awful way in which she was killed, by her uncle, cousins (all male family members). Woman are not respected in that culture at all. They are suppose to love and enjoy beatings they get for the least offense. I thank God I did not grow up in a religion that only respect the men. There is nothing attractive about the muslim faith that has little to no care or concern about the women. The women who go along with this are either brainwashed or fearful of their lives point blank period.
Exactly!!
I suppose if you want to look attractive to men and you have horrible hair then they can excuse the hair being covered due to religion and then apply full face make-up
Just shows the hijab wearing lady's ignorance on modesty with full make up and not what male dominated religions are about. Afghanistan has just shut all women's salons as haram and un Islamic
Well said 👏👏👏
Challenge to all Muslim ladies who says Hijab is a choice..set up a small camera and say to your father, brother and husband..i will not wear hijab..lets see the honest reaction.
That's called protection.... Just like you would stop you women from onlyfans.....
Challenge to all Non-muslim ladies ..set up a small camera and say to your father, brother and husband..i will wear hijab and become a Muslim ..lets see the honest reaction
@@WeeeAffandi challenge to Mulsim set up camera and tell your father and mother that u give up Islam and converting to other religion. Let's see the reaction.
@@enigma..01 challenge to you to mind your own business
Mind you're business
"These are isolated incidents" These are whole countries, and quite a lot of them. This woman is either brainwashed or she's malevolently lying to push an agenda. She really shows her culture by interrupting rudely all the time
It's a brainwash religion. That's how cults work
She seems angry because she is. She is unable to be honest.
She is a slave.
Typical of these misguided people . In Iran, women are wanting to rid of this garb , and not being sentenced to death under sharii laws , fir notvwearing this .
Misogynistic definitely.
She's malevolently lying (taqiyya) to push her wahhabi-salafi agenda, of course.
You will never change the mind of a cult member
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A lot of your culture, habits are strange to other ppl, the whole world is not just YOU. You can take off all your clothes and she can not wear a hijab. Strange very strange. 🙄
They're definitely a cult and more ppl need to know this
How could pedo Church is a cult while child marriage and jihads are allowed and not considered as a cult
Exactly it's evil! From satan! Read their book about Aisha!
If you have a debate whether a religion is peaceful, it's most probably not peaceful! 😐
Same as the ira
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Wherever Islam spreads it's evil tentacles it brings domination death and destruction. The only religion in the world that advocates conversion or death to non believers.
Same as our foreign policy
Religion of pieces.
Talking about losing control of a debate, GB news presenters need to get a grip and take control when two people talk over each other.
ugh I love GBN but omg I really can only watch clips of it now cause of the constant talking over each other
One person was repeatedly talking over the other.
That in itself is very telling.
None of the participants had done any research into the reason Muslim women have to cover up. None of them even mentioned the Quranic verse that orders them to do so. Quran 33.59.
@@suzannechapman4302it was Fahima doing the interruption. You're welcome.
@@clarkporter1340yeah other street women was doing fine?
I've been to Cairo twice and came to the realization that women have no other choice but to wear hijab in this country. In Cairo with its 20+ million people, I saw only two girls not wearing hijab: one was walking down a busy street and everyone was staring at her as she was from a different planet and the other girl was in a special area where rich young people hang out in the city.
Okay let’s please not lie here, I’m from Egypt and I myself live in Cairo and I am not veiled and neither are most of my friends and the people that go to my university and wherever I go (malls, cafes, etc..) there’s a mix of both. People who are veiled and those who aren’t. So please let’s not spread misinformation :)
I just wish Britain didn't have to *care* one way or another. I miss the days when we weren't talking about Islam all the time.
Our culture is being conquered, and all we care about is not offending this creed.
Hit the nail on the head …love it 👍😀👍
We’re not, it’s only GB News.
What culture?
We have to care, because muslims take advantage of our tolerance to destroy our society.
@@sabinamarciniak7552our culture our heritage our history is British. From the RF to the constitution to the commonwealth . That's 2.4 billion people. History of our Kings and Queens, knights and all the rest. We won't be giving it up for Anyone. Come to our country and fit in or go . Our ancestors would've killed any invaders coming in via Trojan horses . They had a Point
I read that..
Makeup is haraam
Shaping the eyebrows is haraam
Going out in public places without a male guardian is haraam
Talking to strange men is haraam ?
I was asked to check surah al azab 59?
Those who wear perfume are hooker written in Hadiths..
… it seems being born a woman is pretty much Haram, by modern western standards. I bet they cannot sing or dance or god forbid be joyfull or show happiness either.
For speaking against their belief people are threatened and killed all over world. Harami
And, it's all valid , especially after I talked to an attractive , and intelligent Iranian women .
@@JohnEglick-pl1sb Please don't compare Iranian women with other muslimas...
The men don't want other men staring at their wives. Some even go so far as wearing those black letter box hijabs too. It's all about control.
Cause they know the men can't control themselves. So much for honourable Muslim men, you need them covered up so that men don't get funny ideas
no..... they dont want other men to want to r@pe their wives. those countries are not like ours. you should go to a really fkd up place in the world for a year and get out of that sheltered life you live now. youll learn something.
@@dtl5623What else would you call them.
You got the gist 👍
wont let them drink either etc
She wears the hijab for modesty but wears makeup
And fixes eyelashes.
Exactly! they are completely blind to their own ridiculous hypocrisy.
It's just absurd that a woman should be made to feel ashamed of her own hair, and that she has to hide it from God and strangers.
modesty doesn't mean not looking pretty or presentable. Countres where women are covered from head toe still have sexual harrassment and rape issues so it's not hpw people look the problem. it's sickeness in people's mind regardless of race and religion.
Everyone sins differently.
And fitted clothes
Wears a hijab for modesty then puts on full makeup to look attractive
loooool
most excellent
I think they should be banned as in France....piles of make up but has to cover her hair in case she inflamed a man.....go back to a country where a hijab is welcomed.Islamic men want to cover up their women but in many UK cuties are happy to groom girls as sex slaves..they consider white women are trash to be used for sex..double standards.....Islamic women on this type of show are always Shouty..oh and modern nuns do not often wear a veil..which dates back to pre mediaeval times..well before Islam began...Why does a six year girl need to look modest...she is just a child for goodness sake.
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They are empowering? Why don’t you ask the females of Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq whether it’s empowering..
That is different since the government forced women to cover up
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She supports women being punished for being immodest.
It's obvious
I wouldn't change to your religion for free
@@dtl5623 what’s that got to do with the hijab clever clogs?
I have seen a 5yr old wearing a Hijab is that her choice?
@KleoptraA cross does not cover her . A cross does not prevent a man seeing her hair. Why not teach men to respect women. Why not teach and insist that men not have sex with a nine year old.
No it was her moms choice just the same way your mom put on a jacket for you when it was cold, was that your choice?
@@nami20622 no one puts on a jacket for no reason or for morality reasons pitting the person against rest of the society
I've seen a lot in the UK
She is covering up because her husbands and the local community are telling her. If she stopped wearing it, the husband and the community would start the intimidation to put it back on. She is just too embarrassed to admit it.
And you know everything about her.😂
Lol. Even if she is saying that she is doing it by herself, people like you are still there to judge her. 😵💫...
That is your beliefs. As a Muslim women I Wear my Hijab and comfortable on it no one force me for it ❤❤
She's risking her life by not wearing it. There are women in prison and many have died because of this attire..
Lol you are speaking for her. Not very feminist of you
Always in denial
"At the end of the day", the lady in green has tons of makeup on and yet is posing to be so pious and modest!
A non British problem foisted on the people along with a raft of other problems courtesy of replacement levels of immigration. We should have banned all non British attire for all public services and never given in as alternative countries were always available and you chose Britain so fit in or go.
One of Britain's greatest strengths is its inclusion, diversity, and equality. People from any colour, race, or religion can follow their culture or religion. That's the beautiful thing about Britain, however theres always hate mongers like yourself ready to hop on a soap 📦 on any given opportunity. Get a life Pal!
exactly! When we go to their country, God forbid us being dressed "inappropriately"! They will look at you like you're naked and ready to be r*ped on the spot
Brilliant comment well said could not have put it better myself 😊
It's simple once a woman can choose to go across an entire city without it, in a country where they are forced to wear it. Without getting killed or arrested. We won't talk about it anymore.
She talks about choices. Let's see what happens if she one day chooses to not wear it in Iran, Saudi, etc.
Fact is in 98% of Muslim families if a woman stopped wearing it her own family would denounce or hurt her!
@@Jman-uz6gp I know, growing up one of the neighbors was a Muslim family. They were very progressive in that they retained parts of their faith. But in practice was very secular in the same vain of people who mainly go to church for funerals and weddings. Luckily social media was not a thing so they only had to pretend that they were "good Muslims" whenever family members would visit them. Our parents had to explain to us kids that during those visits we couldn't play or hangout like usual. And the women had to play dress up and do all the work that the family normally shared.
Even other Muslim families that didn't even live near us would call each other. Putting on an act just in case someone saw them around town, living integrated lives.
When I was in my teens we had moved. I became friends with a Muslim girl who started dating one of my best friends. When family members found out she had a white boyfriend. They sent her back "home" to a country she had never been in her entire life. Because she had committed a sin but it could be salvaged since she was still a virgin. So it was decided it was for the best that at 14 she would need to marry an adult man. She managed to get a hold of a phone, called my friend and told him what was happening, begging for help. Since she just vanished one day and the parents wouldn't tell us why she wasn't at school or at home. Him and his parents tried to get child services involved, and were ready to take custody of her if that is what it took. They were told there was nothing they could do because they were not her legal guardians. And were told it would be a political nightmare if they were to go after the parents for having abandoned their daughter. Because it could be viewed as not having religious tolerance.
Her final text to my friend she said she couldn't take it anymore. Her husband treated her as his personal servant. And he needed to teach her how to get rid of the western influence. So when she found out that she was pregnant she sent the text and then jumped.
So when I would debate people later in life and they accused me of being Islamophobic. I always ask them to be spesific and tell them those two stories. If it's phobic to be against people having to pretend they are religious enough in fear of reprisal. Or being against forcing girls to become child brides, then I'm guilty as charged.
But then you must also say that I'm Catholic-phobic since I'm not a fan of what priests has been doing either and all the other problems various religions has caused. So you can't really charge me with having a problem against people with different skin pigmentation. I have a problem with bad ideas getting spread.
@@dcworld4349 That's quite terrible what happened to your friend. You are correct its not about race or skin color at all. It's religious ideas that hurt people that have no place in modern society. All the best to you.
It's getting intolerable. Women are being murdered for not wearing this garb. Support your sisters and don't wear this headdress.
Can never argue with a moslem they are always right
LOOK AT IRAN PRO 1970 all the women wore western clothes.
Only when they brainwash their own kind
Because it wasn't a Muslim Country then, Persian nation which has been destroyed by Islam.
@Kleoptra it didn't use to be Muslim, though, did it
@Kleoptra so my statement stands correct. They didn't use to be Muslim
afghnistan under ussr wore same
Covering heads but having dangerous thoughts doesn't take away from how hateful they are about everyone n country
Girl, please get a life with your paranoid. A. S. S you look like you haven't even been out on your own just yet. Trust me. You have no idea what's out of the world.
Get a clue before you start making senseless judgment. You're judging people and projecting about your thoughts. Don't do that, don't Assume
Priceless comment.
Hate ? What are you talking about?
@@M4RV3ymYes , hate , and they will not impose their culture on a freedom peoples ofva democracy .
Islamic religion picks an chooses what to believe , what to eat , how to sleep , go to bathroom , and what religion to believe .
@JohnEglick-pl1sb who is imposing culture on you. Let us Muslims do our thing and you do your thing I'm not telling you how to eat,sleep,how to go to bathroom,or anything let us live the way we want Don't impose your western caner on us.
I'm tired of this nonsense that people always pretend that the hijab is a piece of clothing worn voluntarily. If it were, women would simply take it off at customs or at borders for inspection, but they don't because it's suddenly not voluntary after all, but forced on them, whether by male family members or a false understanding of religion.
It's not at all. 70% of females luv it.
@@habibkamal8408nice joke Abdul 😂
Go to sleep then . And that’s your opinion that it’s a false understanding of religion . I’m sick and tired of women having to explain themselves to bigots.
@@graemerose1616no one’s saying that doesn’t happen.
@@graemerose1616 Yes, when you see little girls wearing it, it must be forced on them.
I call BS on this choice thing. In college I had grown friends frightened of their families. They couldn’t receive phone calls, talk openly to men ( friends )or be seen walking with their friends if their family caught them they would get a beating and have school privileges taken from them. This was the 80’s nothing has changed.
My muslim friends has mullah visiting them atleast twice a weak after school for preaching, he would put lot of diktats which is prohibited for female even as a child , they feared the day he visited & would wipe out nail polish etc to convince him , else they are beaten up 😢. And women in coastal hot sweaty climate throughout year in Indian coastal region wear black burka, only eyes are open. They walk like this under sun home from school. While we are sweaty in normal uniforms. I don’t know if our climates suites this arabic dress . Most Muslims women are found at doctors especially skin specialists.
I feel this religion really justifies the collective bad side of the male brain- leads to justified beatings and living in fear.
It disturbs me when a female of this religion has had “good males” in her family allowing and supporting her education. And allowing that to be the only narrative!
That’s not the case for a big percentage of the females that are forced to behave I fear of beating ostacization even death.
The sad thing is that their holy book prohibits its followers to live in countries governed by non-muslims. All illegal, violent "immigrants" are therefore happily going all to hell, or are soldiers invading for a future bloody jihad.
Hehe, well said! You'll never get a response from the hooded ones because they can't deny this sad fact of threats and violence, suffered by hundreds of millions of girls and women.
Miss Khadija why don't you just declare that you oppose God's order to cover the head and bosom. This is God's command.
How does a "culture" that treats women like 2nd class citizens allowed to get away with this? It shows no attempt in integrate or assimilate into a country. And is there any mention of the women of Iran who rose up against wearing this symbol of oppression and who have been brutally put down by the regime?
Because they take over.
Not even 2nd class is some places .
Ikr, much better to have a culture that oppresses young men and chemically castrates children and chops parts off of young people to put new bits on lol.
Pity we real white Christian people can't make these uncivilised immigrants follow our laws and live like a real British person instead of allowing them to practise their uncivilised ways in our Christian country!
Any mention of the women in france forced to remove it you guys are hypocrite when Muslim women are killed by your religion soldiers and countries all over the world on jndia china Africa the Middle East nobody hear y’all but all of sudden you care about Muslim women and choose what is oppressive on their behalf
Khadija is spot on, it also shapes the way non-Muslim women are viewed, you'd have to be wilfully ignorant to suggest otherwise. And if there's "no compulsion in religion" then why is the penalty for apostasy death?
I will be band again if I even mentioned your ideology as a racist but I'm fine if I talk about any other ideology this is sharia working in the uk
@@Bournetobefree-j6m Islam is not a racist.
"it also shapes the way non-Muslim women are viewed"
As we saw with the grooming gangs - white children were regarded as being unworthy of respect because they were infidels.
It's all nonsense
A stupid useless debate. Why? Because not a single person present quoted the Quranic verse 33.59 that IMPOSES full covering on Muslim women to prevent them being molested by the Prophets companions! 😂
When you can't win the point, stop the other person from talking by shouting over them.
Mind Begs the Question:
If Hijab - shields from Prying Eyes
Prying Eyes - no need to shield from
Prying Eyes - best to shield from?
Liberate the nun... Let them wear bikkkkkkini
they brought in atheist with a muslim name to criticiize the woman in hijab, the atheist woman does know quran and what khimar is..
the bible says
1 Corinthians 11:3-15, Paul writes that if a woman is to be so immodest as to wear her hair uncovered while praying or prophesying in a Christian assembly she might as well shave her head. Paul instructs the Corinthians that it is “one and the same” for a woman to have her head shaved and for her to unveil her hair.. ppl call themselvs Christian?
No it’s called holding them accountable and stopping spread of intentional misinformation information and false narrative- Khadija looks bitter period!
It is always sickening to hear muslim reasoning.
It's called taqiyya, they know no other way.
So sick of them especially the women.
Absolutely sickening every conversation they have . They murder thier own daughters and wives.in the of religion .
we in england dont want this rubbish its a christian country and thats how it should be ... we dont want integration ....
As a Nigerian wait till you see moderate Muslims, your everyday friends, colleagues, justify and defend the genocide of millions of Christians..
From all Indicators you guys are getting there in no long time this whole discussion will move to the defence of the slaughters of western kafirs and the custodians of free speech..
One perception when we see extremism ? One isolated incident? That’s the problem, she’s minimising acts of terrorism.
What acts of terrorism do you mean? Do you have specifics or do you mean all terrorism?
Yup. Terrorism victimises entire societies beyond those immediately killed or injured. And yet, the people who are literally terrified of terrorists are supposedly the bad guys. Mind bending logic.
The face of terrorism, why have we got bomb blast barriers going up all over our country, satanist animals
Nice one TH-cam hiding my posts again duh.
@motherrossiya2871You got 4 likes so far for that.
Now, can you explain it?
Boring now we don’t want any of this bollocks in England anymore!
Exactly.. do what you want in Islamic countries or in the mosque.. but in BRITISH SOCIETY we do NOT accept oppression!!!
You are spot on here.
It was always boring. islam should have no place in the west
Well it's here to stay, what you going to do about it?
@@rtube420 Don't worry it s coming to an end very soon, just sit tight and watch what happen's in our country, yes our country in the next couple of years. You will not see it coming.
Weak response from GB female presenter. Fearful of speaking the truth. And this sculpture depicting hijab women is an Insult to womens rights and frightening chapter in the demise of UK!
Tell us about this "demise of the UK".
@@noelpucarua2843 your either a recent arrival or embracing the changes. Majority of white indigenous people who Grandfather's, Great Grandfather's who s roots belong to a European Christian society will unambiguous state that this country is deteriorating rapidly . Crime , mental illness, mass immigration, cannot see a doctor, dentist, mass murders by religious fanatics, general instability in society. The list is endless.
@@noelpucarua2843the millions of so called "asylum seekers" flooding in for years now. The blatant power grab by foreigners pushing the whole "white supremacist" bullsh*t trying to revise white people out of history. The diminishing of our rights and freedoms and the erasure of "white" culture to push "diversity and equity". Christians being attacked all over the world. Christians being arrested for praying or reading their Bibles in public. I mean the list goes on.
Obviously...rudiculous
Absolutely. Apologist for it, citing a Catholic nun covering her head as comparable to 100,000s of Muslim women having to cover themselves.
It’s a woman with the hijab keeps interrupting. I don’t think she interrupts men where she lives.
All Muslim men should wear HIJAB and all Muslim women should be able to have 4 husbands, and all Muslim men and women will live happily ever after.
Who's getting raped all over the world?? Men or women??
Women wear hijab to protect themself from the dirty eyes of the evil people.
And just think what will happen if a women marries four men. There will be a severe clash in the family and a women can give birth to only one of the husband's baby at a time biologicaly . But this doesn't apply to men.
That is Not Fair !!!
Your wife has 4 husbands so what's your problem 😂 How many kids are yours and how many has she with her other "husbands"
I don't know about 4 that's a bit much. Maybe to that's still pushing the envelope. But still it's very complex to deal with the multiple different personalities. Can't make everybody happy
@@Thekhussaintheres something called dna test you know.
As a woman from the United States I thank you for remembering Banaz and Massa! My heart hurts for these women.
What heppened to them?
@@atiqaly6567 They were killed. The story of Mahsa i heard from a online person who lives in Iran. She said women don't have much freedom.
@@SameerPrehistorica why were they killde?
@@atiqaly6567 The news says Banaz was killed after leaving an abusive marriage and falling in love with another man. As for Mahsa, she was arrested for not wearing the hijab properly and was severaly beaten by the poilce officers and she later died.
@@SameerPrehistorica ohh okey thanks for the info
Covering up because men who wrote the rules said so 😂😂😂😂😂
Where did you get that statement from? I wear the hijab because I want to; not because my partner tells me to wear it. In fact he wouldn’t care if I decided to take it off one day. My choice for wearing a scarf is for God and God-only.
@fatimaali3651 um last I read the quoran tells you to cover up.written by a man
@fatimaali3651 why don't men wear it as well then? Why do only women cover up across the world?
@@fatimaali3651What I take from your statement is that Muslim women are more than willing to follow Muslim customs whilst men are less inclined to do so. In reality although you personally have the choice as to whether you want to or not many women are forced by men to ‘cover up’. In the West that is a crime because Western women have for years worked to have equal rights yet men still have the power to force their women to cover up despite Western freedoms for women to make their own choice.
@@fatimaali3651 Many women are fighting for different & living in fear in another country for not wanting to wear it! So I guess it's a debate with different angles, that ppl need to have to understand.
Come on you Muslim woman your men do what they want wake up stop being subservient 😢
Fahima constantly interrupted the other woman. I think this is a sign that she knew that the other woman was right in everything she had to say.
That's what Muslims do🤷
The presenters were a bit pathetic 🙄
@@belindakennedy5828When did you find the time to try arguing with ALL the Muslims?
Haven't you got a job?
Remember, benefits scroungers are NOT cool.
Khadija is ignorant 😒
I also found it ironic for her to promote values of modesty while talking over another person. Like instead of covering your head, maybe cover your mouth and listen?
Last year, on a searing hot July say, on a beach in Dorset that was holding an annual volleyball event with championships for professionals and lots of nets for holiday makers to play, there was a group of Muslim men playing, wearing shorts and vest tops. Their wives, covered from head to foot, some in a niqab, were huddled against the promenade wall or in the shelters for shade. I thought Muslim men were supposed to dress modestly too so yes, seeing the men dressed like westerners and the women muffled up I'd say it's misogynistic attire.
That is typical of how they behave in the Middle East in 45 degree weather.
The women don't have any choice or they would be denounced as sluts
even by their own families and other women.
@@yakovshani240 I agree with all you say which is why I have no time for almost all organised religion, much of which I regard as basically evil. Many don't understand that when people talk about equality, they are talking about equality of opportunity, not equality of being which, as you state, cannot be because of the biological differences, although, in that respect, I cannot argue with the 'equal but different' concept in the same was as 3 +3 = 6, but so does 2+2+2, 1+5 etc equal 6 but in a different way.
You paint a dismal picture and of course there is nothing more dismal than being covered in bed sheet in hot weather .Also I was taught by nuns at school and the difference between their attire which had a full skirt ,extremely elegant and the muslim kit is like night and day .V
@@joangrennan886 IT WAS dismal, that's what struck me most of all ( and the hypocrisy of the men who are also supposed to dress modestly ). If the women had looked relaxed and happy I would not have noticed so much but they looked utterly miserable.
That's the way they like it...
Banned in France.Follow suit.
Freedom of religion and expression sweetheart.
They all bring their problems with them ban all religions both but backward shit
@@AndyFelmaBush Sweetheart?
bring back page 3
Ban the bikini 👙!!
Hijab is part of her faith...what faith ???
Which verse in the Quran explicitly said muslim women should cover her hair...??
WE MUST make the politicians accept we want nothing to do with Islam OR MULTICULTURALISM, Vote reform.
Their “multiculturalism” is deleting Western culture.
Do you want only one point of view and do you think that point of view should be Reform?
If you want people to be able to vote for Reform you'd better allow people to think as they wish.
Of course, allowing people to think as they wish is MULTICULTURALISM. Not everyone chooses to vote reform and not everyone can tell people what to think.
@@noelpucarua2843 You mean foreign culture invades, dominates and replaces indigenous culture?
Guess what, I’m an Englishmen born and bred white male from Yorkshire and I am a Muslim. There are plenty of us.
@@richadambudgen7520you need to have a word with yourself then
You’re a traitor
Suppression of women and arranged marriages should not be tolerated in Britain. Everyone knows they don't have a choice.
Arranged marriage is fine if ppl agree even Justin Bieber had one
Arranged marriage does not mean forced. Any marriage that is forced is invalid in Islam. Please stop talking without knowledge.
@@livinia296So it's OK to arrange a marriage with an underage girl, IT DOES HAPPEN!
@@kathleenc7337
No it not ok. Islam forbid it!
Ban cousin marriages and it would stop. They do it to bring their family over.
Muslim men should cover up if faith is faith... Tony cuenca
So do but not all. I saw one woman in the full get up and the husband in shorts. They looked stupid 🙄
yep, blindfold those muslim men
Militant-secular-feminist-revenge-logic.
I hate pretentious, upper class, and searching for meaning hijabi women! I would love to see them live in an Islamic society.
Goodness, the lady on the right is very rude. She keeps interrupting and not allowing the woman on the left to finish speaking.
Because she knows that she is in the wrong & doesn't like to hear the truth.
You will find they always do that when they are losing the argument.
She has an air of arrogance. But when you consider that Islam is a supremacist doctrine the teaches its followers that they are superior to all other people, well, that could explain the attitude. Looking down her nose at the kuffars perhaps.
It's the only time she gets to speak without being beaten by the Muslim men
How do you know you're a women?
Fahima kept interrupting the other lady when she was speaking. Very disrespectful
Rich wear it for fashion and poor are forced.
Said by islamophobe indian.😂.
Show some proof that the poor are forced.
I can say it about any type of clothes, that the poor are forced.
No honour in killing your daughters.
@Kleoptraare you HALALA PRODUCT From BHIKARISTAN or PORKISTAN
@Kleoptra
No Islamic faith ever murdered their daughters for refusing to marry a msn 20+ years older?
I live on the outskirts of Birmingham all I see every day is Burqas and Hijabs everywhere. I don't like it. ENGLAND FOR THE ENGLISH
England for freedom
And? Look at how the British Empire use to operate
100 years ago English used to also dress eerily Simalar
@@run2cat4run there were far less feet on the ground in places like India than the other way round now yet and you would say that was wrong? So are u a huge hypocrite then ???
@@run2cat4run Making third world countries better? Giving them clean water, food, all the things they take for granted today?
We've never left a country in a worse state then we found it, these people just come in like lotus and strip mine a country, destroying the local culture and then moving on to do it to another country.
They've trashed their own country and are doing the same to ours.
It shouldn't be in this country if people want it stay in your country law of the land
We don't have a law in this land outlawing choice of clothes unless they are revealing private body parts
That goes against your western values of freedom and liberty they should be free to do what they want as long as it doesn’t harm someone that’s your values so stick with it
Notes how the muslim women behave by not letting the other ex muslim women talk⚠️⚠️⚠️❓️❓️❓️
Come on Eamon, step in and stop the over talking of each other.
This is what happens when you remove Europe's Christian heritage - you create a void which is inevitably dominated by less savoury creeds.
Women also observed hijab under European christiandom loool
Christianity is another Middle Eastern religion
@@edaleman2758 And?
@@edaleman2758 your christian heritage is from the middle east so whats your point LOL
Europe is not Christian but Rather a secular including its constitutional law.
In Europe Darwin’s evolution theory is directly against Christianity you teach it to the children in schools.
Children are thought that we are not created by god,
you can be gender fluid change, transgender,homosexual and man can marry a man which is of course a major sin in Christianity.
So let’s get this straight you live in a secular Democracy with values that allows freedom of speech and freedom to practice what ever faith religion you chose
Why did the presenters not tell that woman to be quite. She had a chance to speak but she keeps interrupting the other lady. Totally disrespectful.
That's the way taqiyya experts (please watch also videos with that guy called Muhammad Hijab) react when cornered and confronted with the truth.
My thought exactly!
Absolutely, you're right, but this attitude of entitlement from fanatics is the norm.
Another professional victim bravely enduring her life here in the UK. Give Afghanistan a go. I hear it's nice this time of year.
I am Italian and l would like the woman who Is wearing the hijab to come to Italy ,enter a church and see that no woman wears veils anymore !
Terrible
@@mdrizzy4965 The nun do.
In visiting the pope, the royals do.
People with cancer do.
You are so silly, ahh ahhh pay for her flight first
As I am an Italian, I do NOT want any Muslims in Italy! They will destroy our culture!
@@halimaakbar5530you give nuns eoyals and people with cancer as example 😂😂😂
There is no compulsion in Islam .......yea right
Why wont they go ome.
@@johntooth1886they can’t afford the bus fare back to Birmingham.
Not forgetting , it's the religion of "peace".
I must be missing something?
The very word "Islam" means "submission".
It's heartbreaking that they don't realize the mental and spiritual oppression they are under. Most are compelled by their society and culture to adhere to the traditions.
One Algerian woman living in the UK (and essentially free from the hold her parents had over her right up to her 40s) told me that British people can never understand how much of a stronghold the family is in these cultures...
Cult members will always defend their own oppression. They are dangerous.
The hijab woman is rude. Always interrupting the lady who is on the left.
They all like that. Angry,miserable idiots
That's what they do, rudely interrupt others peaceful life.
She's a moslim who don't care for Western culture of respect
Because she sees her as an infidel - Islam offers nothing to infidels but subjugation and death
No manners from the lady in the hijab
The comment "We don't have the voice to say it loud" this speaks for itself
That religion has no place in a modern world
@Carol.howard
I'm not sure any religion has any place in a modern society? They are all full of hypocrisy, misinterpretation and fanatical believers.
It's not going to disappear by saying that
Pedophile MOH and murdering AL 😂😂😂
No religion does really. Just believe in God or don't and try to be a good person. Religion hasn't made any of the evil go away. I feel it more or less just perpetuated it and brought us to where we are to begin with.
That's why it's the fastest growing religion in the world.😊
The reason to cover the hair and most of the body is down to the men having control over their women, after all the women and girls are less than second class citizens. I have observed this on a daily basis, the men and boys given extreme preference, leading to extreme misogyny.
No it’s called modesty
How covering is equivalent to control ?
It's crazy that they're so disgusting that even children need to cover up
@TheRandompaint They make even little child to wear it for a reason. They condition them from childhood. They make those girls from childhood to believe that this is how they should be for rest of their life. They condition their mind saying man marrying many women is normal thing. They just normalize husband beating wife. Their book says that men can beat their wife to keep them under control.
@@TheRandompaint I'm always shocked seeing small girls wrapped in black not being able even to enjoy their childhood
Lady made the point about many Brits going to live in places like Spain and not really learning the language and fully entering the culture - which is true. On the other hand, the Brits don't try to impose their religion on the native population, or call them unpleasant names, or seek to change the laws of the host country.
Brits don’t go around in gangs raping the local girls either
Indeed or committed to threaten to throw the non confirming off the highest building. Its sugar coated by that young lady for now just wait until the religion finds its teeth. Pure Medieval thoughts alive and kicking.
They should learn the languages though. If you want to move to another country it should be because you appreciate or admire the culture. The only reason we as british get away with it, is because most places speak English to a certain extent.
Brits have history of taking over other people's countries, making laws for them to obey, pushed their religion on them, took the resources of the country and enforced it all with their army.
There are a lot of people who have lived in this country, for 50 or more years, and are unable to speak English. That is why a lot of money is spent on interpreters. No other country does this, you learn the language or you pay for your own interpreter.
The amount of covert racism in the comments is disgusting.
The woman wearing the hijab keeps saying she chooses to wear it. People “choose” for different reasons and sometimes your choice isn’t yours from the start.
Her "choice" has been inculcated into her since childhood.
She knows no different!
One of the reasons she actually gave for her choice is that it makes her feel safer.
That says a lot.
So how do people choose to not wear it….
If she wants to run around naked , then let the dumb ass be laughed at arrested !!
@@LifeIsThePrayer If "it makes her feel safer" then this means that her brothers in faith are absolutely ALLOWED to molest and rape those girls and women who don't wear the arabian hood, right? Because it's happening constantly in the West and the left-wing mass media tries by all means to cover up those crimes (helping the local people to begin to vote for right wing parties, see Holland).
A 7 year old is made to wear Hijab so it's not choice.
Bingo!
you know what, every parent have to give the parental rules to their children but at a certain age a children have a choices to worship what they want thats all!
Why don’t they have the courage of your convictions and faith …..by leaving the west and living in a Muslim country
Otherwise it’s just a token gesture…..go make your Muslim countries better
It is true to the fact that, the countries which consider islam as it’s religion forces the women to cover their body and these atrocities and brutalities upon women for disobeying the muslim misogynistic laws for the repression of woman are unacceptable.
England is an Christian country... Endof..... Tony cuenca
I wish it was it wouldn't be such a mess.
It's not you lot turned your back on it a long time ago. If you really were this wouldn't be an issue.
yeh see how people dressed in England 100 years ago
You must be joking mate, dont see any christian rules and 10 commandments being adhered to, christian country???
Actually, even the C of E has admitted it is no longer a Christian country. More and more are leaving the Church. I think that is a good thing. Religion should not be privileged in any waý. We are a secular country and thank goodness for that.
I wrote about this way back in the 1990s as a political columnist in a secular country, Malta, and I ended up losing my journalistic career because of this. Ended up muzzled and censored and eventually in a criminal court. So, Khadija Khan is totally correct in what she says. Women in Muslim countries do NOT have a choice! It is totally misogynistic and is especially unacceptable in secular western societies, in my opinion. I wonder why Fahima did not allow Khadija to speak the truth about how Muslim women suffer in silence and often end up murdered or stoned to death just because they show some part of their bodies. Fahima knows that that is a common practice among Muslims. She just didn't want us to hear it expressed by a fellow Muslim woman! And shame on the presenters for not stopping Fahima from butting in constantly and trying to drown Khadija's speech.
Super annoying actually - she was shouting over Khadija. The presenters were completely useless. 🙄 Khadija was 💯 right.
Do you support people's right to wear a hijab if they wish, or will you demand for yourself the right to say it is, or is not, their wish?
@@noelpucarua2843 If they really wish to, i.e. without the religious and cultural pressures, yes, I will support whatever. On the other hand, when you are domiciled in a foreign country, you can't take your culture with you. You would do better to adapt to the new host country's culture.
@@szendrichSo, every Brit speaks the language of the country they live in, is that your point? Our is it just your wild imagination?
My experience in numerous countries proves you wrong.
@@noelpucarua2843 Who's talking about language here? We're talking about cultural practices. As a woman, I find it offensive to see other women being treated as less then. Many Western women feel the same way. We've fought for equality for centuries. The hijab is to me a symbol of women's suppression and lack of freedom. That's my point.
A woman defending Islam is like a chicken defending KFC.
🎯 🤣
Jajajaja a chicken wing on a string.
😂
😂🤣
Who laughed ? Copied and pasted not even a chuckle joke how embarrassing
The female host's perspective is misguided. It's inherently misogynistic! Muslim men have the freedom to wear what they choose, while Muslim women face severe restrictions. Women who refuse to comply with these dress codes often risk their lives.
In contrast, nuns won't face lethal consequences if they decide to remove their religious attire.
It's crucial to recognize this stark difference!
A headscarf is one thing, doesn't bother me, it's the full tent nonsense that I see as oppressive, and we all know it is.
The headscarf is like a gateway drug or a frog in boiling water
These people are trying to use Liberal laws to interpret the Koran but once they get power people will see just how anti-liberal it is.
Oppressive is when you're a slave of the society you live in! In the west women are seen as visual creatures and are objectified and overtly sexualised, you can't deny that! Just look at Hollywood, music industry, porn industry or the music industry? You're oppressing your women by using them as mere commodities for sexual gratification! Go rescue them! The west is going through a pandemic of body dismorphia where women are changing the way they look because of the pressure society and your culture imposes on them! Brazilian butt implants, lip fillers, boob jobs, face lifts, botox the list is endless, and to top it off, you're taking away women's rights by calling them "cis women"?
BTW Can you answer the most controversial question on western TV, what is a women??!😂
So nudity is not a problemetic for you 😂
@@usmanbinaffan8405 why will it be? I'm not like Muslims who get turned on by every woman dey see not wearing a curtain all over
It goes to show you how indoctrinated they are when they actually think they have a choice 😢
same goes for you too. reflect on that.
you think gb news is a valid choice right? its just a different part of the same machine. its moulding your mind from another angle than the bbc because your mind is already primed in their chosen direction they wish to herd you and you dont even realise that.
Well she’s keeping her husband happy ..she’s knows deep down it’s all about that ..
Really depends where people come from. Sometimes it’s choice and I don’t know why people don’t understand this.
The scarf should have covered more if her chest area , otherwise what’s the point of wearing it and with makeup on top of that ? We can still see the shape of her hair under her scarf , it’s funny how some of these hijabi girls say they’re wearing the scarf but don’t know how to tie it properly and are actually using it as a fashion statement coz they still wanna “look cute “ wearing it , they’re all over hijabi-tok
The idea of the hijab, apparently (no where in the quran), is modesty and not to be stared at by men, and here is this lady with lipstick and mascara precisely to look attractive. And in a secular democracy where she can say what she likes. Honestly, they should relocate to Muslim countries and try and live there rather than creating controversy after controversy in the West
It is double standards, she wants to look `modest` but covers her face in make-up, lipstick and mascara. No doubt she gets her nails done regularly as well. Just saying.
@Kleoptra Iran has the clothing rule
Full covering for Muslim women is mandated by Allah in the Quran. Chapter 33 verse 59. 'So that they may be recognised and not molested.' 😁 Other women are fair game of course. 😂
Women don't solely wear makeup to attract men, women like men like to express themselves as they have done for millenia! Personal adornment is a fundamental trait that differentiates us from all other species & is at the core of us being human.
..30. Tell the believing men; they should lower their gaze and protect their chastity; this will make their lives purer. Allah is fully aware of what they do. 31. And tell the believing women; they too should lower their gaze, protect their chastity, and not expose their beauty except what is visible, and their head covers should be stretched over their breasts. They should only display beauty to their husbands, fathers, father in law, their sons, husband’s sons, brothers, nephews, nieces, women, slave maids, elderly male servants free of sexual desires, and children who are naive of women’s nakedness. Neither should they stamp their feet to draw attention to their hidden beauty. Believers turn to Allah in repentance together, so you may be successful.
Not in the Holy Quran I hear you say?? I just showed you one verse from the Quran and there's plenty more! Don't go around preaching what you don't know like this pathetic women who thinks she's a Muslim yet doesn't know the basics of Islam!
Andrew Tate love people like that...
Anyone pick up where she said "you're not free just because you want to expose yourself" basically saying the other woman should cover up, yet she has the cheek to say wearing the hijab is a choice
She is not saying to cover her up. It's a simple thing freedom is not being naked or wearing less clothes, freedom is a very big term. It includes freedom of education, economy, speech,expression, clothing, voting rights etc.
Excuses@@imranhasan4109
She still wears it because she'll be targeted by her own community if she doesn't.
How do you know anything about her? Do you also know why everyone does anything?
Wearing this in the UK is a visible badge of pride for victimhood. When I was in dubai I saw less hijabs and burkas than downtown in Birmingham.
@@jumblestiltskin1365You complaining is a visible sign of you trying to play the victim.
By the way, it is "fewer hijabs" not "less hijabs". Maybe you should integrate and learn English.
Truth. Shxite community, you actually have Muslim mullahs Turning up at houses now,.....FFS ....sick of this. I say 20% of Muslims in the UK are sick of it, wish the government could ban this tripe
@@jumblestiltskin1365 what's a women, you answer that first..🤣
Absolute bollocks ! Contradiction all the way through.
It’s so creepy for Men and women to tell a woman how she should dress, did we all forget her body her choice.The triple standard is shocking and embarrassing
Your liberal society doesn’t and when there is a godless society and anything goes guess what, that leads to degeneracy. We don’t tell, God does!
Absolutely spot on
no one tells anyone from the Quran to do anything. Truth stand out from lies and there is no compulsion in religion. Chapter 2/256 Quran. This is the religion. Men grow beards women wear scarves and cover their adornments. This is to protect women and men from immorality so that we can progress in innovative critical, logical, rational and reasonable solutions to advance. Alcohol gambling and nakedness is not progressive in society rather it’s a dangerous evil force of exploitation in men and women. Look at female pop stars what are they teaching girls that naked is ok. No it is immoral and indecent and it creates bad thoughts in men and seriously diverts progressive thinking.
"Her body, her choice". Is a statement of convenience.
Used only to promote immorality. 😄
Amen to that 🎉🎉🎉
When ever I’ve seen women out with their male partners whilst wearing full or partial face/head coverings it’s noticeable that the men wear western clothing which suggests it’s the women who adhere to the Muslim culture either voluntarily or forcibly .
As I've just commented, on a searing hot July day last year on a local beach, Muslim men were playing volleyball in shorts and vest tops while their wives, muffled up from head to foot, a couple with only their eyes showing, tried to find shade.
I’ve seen …even in Dubai..the men wear shorts flip flops T shirts ….the woman fully covered .in searing heat …walking behind their men ….so sad ..all in the name of religion..we don’t want it here ….
@@joancline4844while women in the western world are treated like second class citizens in the work place, raped while at work, the institution of marriage is not existent, partners cheating with other people, pornography is an epidemic in all age groups from kids to adults…. This is western society for you!!! Clean up your own houses first before commenting on others
@@joancline4844 ‘Don’t want it here’ such hypocrisy considering you went to a Muslim country Dubai and probably wore a bikini at the beach😂😂 I don’t think the people of Dubai wanted that there either
@@Prankcallish haha ..no way would I ever wear a bikini ..and when walking about I always am fully covered …respecting the laws of the land ……and Dubai is totally geared up for western visitors it’s their lively hood ….I was making an observation about the clothes .the local woman wear compared to the local men …I can have an opinion like you have …well at least in this country up to date You can !……and no I don’t like to see woman suffering in searing heat …all to please a man ..
If only you could wear it some days and choose not to wear it other days - that would prove that you had some choice in the matter.
But , in totalitarian Moslem nations there isn' t such freedom of choices !!
Exactly!
You submit to your Creator fully once you decide to do it. Not one day yes, one day not.
@@jay.jay. Really? And what about the command of your Creator for men to lower your gaze to avoid sin? What about the command of your Creator for women to go out of the house ALWAYS with a mahram, when they go to school, university, shopping, driving, etc in the sinful West but don't do? See? It not your Creator you taqiyya experts follow but only what YOU desire.
@@jay.jay. Please explain why the Iranian women began to throw away the chador and hundreds were imprisoned, raped and even killed for showing dead cells (hair).
If women are required to cover up, then why arent men? Surely all humain beings are equal in the eyes of God?
What i dont get is how its supposed to make the person modest you dont need to cover up to be modest thats how you behave.
exactly, and they go attack Jewish people on the street or anyone else at the protests and still consider themselves "modest"
Because long hair is a temptation for the creepy men.
We still have blasphemy laws, riddle me that.
Ideological coercion is the point. Choice is not choice in fact. If it were, daughters would at no point be forced to START wearing it.
I live in a large populated muslim area and i always have more respect for muslim women who dont wear it because its likely at some point they had to defy the opinion, threats or indoctrination from some fanatical loon
Mind Begs the Question:
Wearing Mask - Prevention
Wearing Hijab - Oppression?
True
@jj-yi1ne British people aren’t forcing them to wear or refrain from wearing the hijab, so there isn’t any indoctrination on the part of the Brits. If a Muslim man tries to force a woman to wear it against her will that would be in line with indoctrination.
Why? Because they do as you want then to by disrespecting their own culture and faith and being forced and indoctrinated Into believing in your secular Liberal nonsense?!
Really dreadful facilitating allowing them to talk over each other over and over.
That's what Muslims do... Watch any debate with them involved. Usually fists start flying, all in the peaceful name of Islam 😂... at the end of the day, they oppress thier little girls by indoctrinating them into hilter youth style beliefs and mindsets!
Usual muslim exchange of just shout your dogma louder
The presenters were pathetic with this! The lady with the scarf on was by far the dominant speaker..
Presenters need to get their guests in line. Allowing the lady on the right to continue to interrupt and talk over the other was unfair and wrong
Love how the hijab rants away, talks over the other woman and is then given the last word😂
I have no problem with women wearing the Hijab IF that’s their choice what I do have a problem is seeing little girls wearing one. They obviously haven’t been given the choice have they? Why would a parent do this? It’s brainwashing
O.K, why do I see western women dress their 9/10 year old in transparent figure hugging leggings where you can see their butt cracks and boob tube or a bikini? Why do you make children wear your cultural attire like jeans a short tops? Are you not sexualising your children? Why would you do that?
Every child is condition from day one; and it's ( primarily ) the prerogative of the parents . ....
Thing is most of the time little girls want to wear it cos they want to look like their mothers or older sisters. Children tend to copy their older family members and enjoy doing that. It’s not that controversial like cmon it’s ridiculous having this debate about hijab. 25% of the world population is Muslim that’s 1 in 4 people, it’s not controversial or abnormal, we as British people just need to move on from this pointless debates
If modesty is truly her purpose then why is she putting on make up? And that too so much of it. Does that not negate the whole argument?
Exactly...it is false modesty......some of these women inafrican countries wert and are shaking their butties to tiktok....I find that so hilarious.....why have your head covered and the shape of your backside is being shown through your clothing and shaken to a worldly music best.....I want to understand that.....
@@useniamistry7720 totally agree! It’s a conundrum
Where is the abaca,?
Make-up is haram / prohibited in islam also use of perfume.....
@@anthonyshinde9662 yep! How is she justifying hijab then while indulging in so much haram as per Islam?
The very fact that we accept this in our country reinforces the view that we are weak and don't really believe in our own values.
We value the choice of people to wear what they want.
@@noelpucarua2843 That's precisely the problem. You think that shows multicultural accommodation and puts us on a pedestal. In fact it makes us look weak in the eyes of those you are trying to impress. Waken up !
Even the Archbishop of Canterbury doesn't believe in biblical teachings.
@@lewislee9201 Nor does he seem to support good old British values
@@DM-le4yiSo, let me get this straight. Do you want others to tell you what you can and cannot wear?
Its a straight forward yes or no question.
So is she saying her creator is admitting that he has created something so ugly he wants it hidden. If he is the 'Creator', why would he do that?
So why's she wearing makeup? 💄 😘
It’s a contradiction! Make up and jewellery are being modest but showing hair isn’t 🙄 crazy rules
Yes she's not supposed to be wearing makeup and jewellery. But she is not an Angel. No one is perfect!!!!
@@livinia296 why shouldn't she be wearing makeup and jewelry?!
@Kleoptraare you HALALA CHILD from BHIKARISTAN or PORKISTAN
@@livinia296but most religious people pretend to be perfect and try to force their religious nonsense on others.
"Force to wear it" Just yesterday I went out to get groceries and over heard a lady saying she was called into a family meeting for not wearing hijab where all manner negative words was spoken to her.
They're going against the religion of Islam by forcing someone to wear hijab. In Islam is it not permissible to force anyone to wear hijab so they're sinning by placing that force. It's every women's choice if they wear it or not. Simple as that. That's what PRACTICING Muslims follow.
Ah you happened to over hear that. What else did you over hear. What she made for dinner last night? Her plans for the summer.