RICHARD DAWKINS & BRIAN GREENE! EVOLUTION, PHYSICS, SCIENCE, ALIENS, GHOSTS, ATHEISM & GOD
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An Evening with Richard Dawkins & Brian Greene in NYC on Nov 1st 2018.
The awe-inspiring Dawkins sits down with Theoretical Physicist Brian Greene to talk all things science. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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Brian Greene is an amazing physicist to listen to. So knowledgeable.
He is very knowledgeable of the fairytales he's created . There is no experimental evidence to support his theory's .
@@hindsight2022 He understands a wide range of physics unrelated to string theory. He even said if string theory was proved wrong he would be happy. If he was proved wrong he would most likely still do physics.
Brian Green : Richard have you started believing in god?
Richard Dawkins: certainly not
Brian Green: thank god.
I feel enlightened by these 2 extraordinary minds.
Amazing. Thanks for sharing
Two brilliant minds.
really?
Yes, really!
Recall the discussion with Jordan Peterson regarding his vision of DNA-like structures during a mushroom experience, and the counterpoint that DNA's appearance is common knowledge. You referenced Francis Crick. It's noteworthy that Crick also experimented with LSD, a 5ht2a agonist akin to mushrooms. The perception of DNA-like structures, which seem more tangible than our daily reality, is a fairly common experience and has been reported long before the modern scientific discovery of DNA.
About discussion at 1:20:40
Brian talks about ultimately the reading from the instrument doing the measurement of a quantum state needs to be seen by some conscious agent and thus some may think consciousness has some role. That is a very misleading analysis. There is a confusion between two types of events (E1) vs (E2 or E3) :
- event E1 where an instrument (say a video camera) makes a measurement on a quantum state to make it collapse and records the reading
- event E2 when a conscious entity - say Alice reads that recorded reading and groks what it was. Note this can happen 10 years later and 1 billion miles away.
- event E3 when a conscious entity - say Bob reads that recorded reading and groks what it was. Note this can happen 20 years later and 2 billion miles away.
sure.
But Event E1 is when the collapse happened. The lab may even have been destroyed the next day after the instrument with recorded reading was taken out and sent first to Alice and then to Bob. What does it even mean to talk about Alice collapsing the quantum state after 10 years, when the lab was destroyed the next day. That is absurd.
E1 is not the same as E2
E1 is not the same as E3
E2 is not the same as E3
but the measurement only happened at E1 and the quantum state collapsed then.
So this shows us that a instrument like a video camera - which every one will agree collapsed the wave function.
Sure a macroscopic, conscious entity present in the lab could have done the "measurement" to collapse the wave function, but not because it is conscious, but because it is macroscopic.
The labs that develop quantum computers do not shields the quantum state from consciousness of human lab personnel. They put the quantum state in vacuum separated from air molecules lest they will destroy it.
So can we please stop bringing in consciousness into Quantum Physics context from now on?
Man only has the understanding of the meaning that he himself has given that meaning, and this power of giving meaning to man is only through his intelligent self-aware mind, which is caused by his sensory organs, but the question is that this self-aware and intelligent mind of man, this self-awareness and intelligence What does he owe himself to? Because every creature that was created from the benefit of this air and earth is not beyond this air and earth.
About discussion at 1:30:00 Brain generates consciousness. Brain is a electro-chemical machine. Chemistry as a whole is based on quantum physics. So it is not clear why only collapse of wave function is micro-tubules is considered important for the generation of consciousness. The overall chemistry in the brain which is completely dependent on quantum effects is responsible for generating consciousness. The bonds in chemical reaction have to deal with "quantum" orbitals of electrons in atoms and molecules.
“You know I love hymns and Christmas Carols. I feel at home in the Christian ethos. I feel that we are a Christian country in that sense”. -Cultural Christian Richard Dawkins 2024
❤❤BRIAN❤❤
Wolfram claims to understand quantum mechanics. I can't say that I understand exactly how his "ruliad" differs from the many-worlds interpretation, but it does seem to be similar, and more complex.
Dawkins doesn’t know how or why or what happened but he’s SURE that darwinianism is real 😂
Darwinianism?!! Do you mean evolution? Evolution IS true. It happens. Cope.
@@damienschwass9354 if you say so
@@milDelux not if I say so- it simply is, regardless.
@@damienschwass9354 you’re about as convincing as Dawkins is.
@@milDelux whether you’re convinced or not is irrelevant.
Love these two. Brilliant
About discussion at 29:00 Brian seems to be wondering about how physics gives rise to self experience. He should ask as simple question - if the brain is not working in a normal way will one have a self experience. If a brain is injured - parts of consciousness are affected. If the brain is under the influence of alcohol or drugs the conscious experience is affected. Under general anesthesia the consciousness is completely gone. The reason is that brain has subsystems for the perception of senses, but also has the subsystems that observe other subsystems and register and classify that as conscious experience. When those later subsystems are not in working condition we loose their function which is the internal recognition of consciousness.
Think of it this way:
- stage 1 - we use to think sickness was caused by wrath or curse of a deity
- stage 2 - we found out that sickness is cased by microorganisms like bacteria or viruses (biology)
- stage 3 - we precisely know the biochemistry of how viruses cause the pathology. In fact that is what allows us to develop precise vaccines - like mRNA COVID 19 vaccine. (molecular biology, bio-chemistry, organic chemistry, or simply chemistry)
About consciousness:
- stage 1 - we use to think there is something like soul or spirit that gives us consciousness
- stage 2 - the consciousness is generated by the brain
- stage 3 - we will understand how brains ( or its subsystems I talk about in paragraph 1) actually do it.
We are at stage 2 with respect to understanding brain and consciousness.
From my own experience I would argue that we don't lose consciousness during general anesthesia. I could remember stuff from while I was under. People remember stuff even though they were brain dead. I belive it is just we typically don't remember such experiences.
@@EmmetCromie From my own experience it was completely opposite. I do remember distinctly, when I was put under general anesthesia, for a appendicitis operation that, I was not conscious at all. I did not remember anything, absolutely anything after it wore off. It was very very different compared to a very deep sleep. For example, even in a very deep sleep, if there is a loud noise or someone pinches me I will wake up. But clearly I did not feel the operation or I am sure I would not have suddenly come out of anesthesia even if there was a life threatening earthquake or fire, when I was under anesthesia. It is as if those hours did not happen from the point of view of my awareness.
Of course, the effect of general anesthesia varies from person to person. I presume though that you did not feel the pain of the procedure when you were under general anesthesia.
@@SandipChitale No pain but with a lot of focus I could remember that I experieneded something. Just because people typically don't remember does not mean something did not happen
@@EmmetCromie Not sure what you mean. I know I did not have any sense of existence. It felt distinctly different than deep sleep. Just like your experience is true so is mine :) .
It is possible that in your case the general anesthesia did not do its full job, so that you do not even get psychological trauma due to the invasive procedure. And it is true that anesthetics affect differently on different people. But most people I have talked to share my experience of completely being gone unlike deep sleep.
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Yes, #'s are shared "i" AM specially formed! Yes, even formulas can't exist! Without here 1ST!
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"Shut up and calculate" dogma hindered progress in fundamental understanding of quantum mechanics. "Hard problem of consciousness" dogma is hindering the progress in understanding of consciousness. Both dogmas should be rejected. Science should never be asked to stop asking why? and how? questions.
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I've noticed in recent Dawkins 'debates' he seems to be irritated, maybe defensive. I could just feel it. This was a pleasant change in his demeanor.
I love Dawkins but there are times he rubs me wrong. i think it's more a culture thing than anything. English vs American and all that fun
He'd always rubbed me up the wrong way historically to be honest but I've really grown in respect for him recently.
He has bad anxiety with no peace.
Imagine being as smart as he is and being on a planet full of religious dipshits and corrupt politicians that value paper over all life on planet earth AND the earths health for that matter. I’d be fucking annoyed too. He’s surrounded by dopamine addict adolescent minded adults.
We often see him defending his atheism, but in this video he's freely discussing his earthly cosmology.
This is an old video ...I saw this video ages ago, (maybe years).
finally someone who believes evidence of something is not evidence of the contrary. Brian Greene take note.
The third sky at Pavel mins that are superior realityes, beyond physics, if somebody not perceve, his problem...
Brian should let him speak and finish his sentence.
Can I assume that quantum mechanics goes on inside our brains? I would think it would have to. So free will seems to be more like randomness. Are criminals in the world locked up because of randomness or brain damage? Does every man contain evil and kindness?
Blaming bad actions on “randomness” is akin to blaming the devil.
People have a choice and they need to accept responsibility for their actions.
#Evolution did it 😂
The infinitely small volume that Dawkins mentions - I conceive of it as containing the energy, not the mass, of the universe. Mass formed later.
And was all the energy contained in that volume? Or did the process create energy in a sort of runaway fashion?
Maybe that volume was a portal through which the energy flowed, from another domain.
(゜ロ゜) Natural selection is the character flaw in evil that is integrity is more important than life otherwise evolution is tragic circumstances with nothing intelligent happening. Almost everyone survive until they reproduce. Nothing is getting selected except for the character flaw in evil. I found a replacement for the character flaw in evil that I liked but God makes me forget things that will cause me trouble.
Our beautiful shared "i" AM will say, it's vital! For an infant daughters to be raised by strongest Heirs Hosts! Why?
No lines just watershed events. Not a clue and that's OK
This is sooooo last century.
How terribly disappointing ……
Grieves ME! For many can't even recognize one another in front! Why revealed for thee to RECOGNIZE? If ye can't even recognize one another? What is a 2 STATES? IF CAN'T EVEN RECOGNIZE ONE ANOTHER IN FRONT?
WHAT
the conversation is circular and boring.
Because they are missing the most important element GOD
Ye all are SO specially formed! As ye see #'s! Yes, I so love all my #'s specially formed!
Nonsense
Why do all mammals have 2 eyes , 1 nose , 2 ears and 1 mouth
Many will say the CORNER STONE!
Pop even I can be silent! Is like...Noone can uproot nor shaken but here to stay for good. Who can shut the "OPEN DOOR"? I'll wait right Here! None! Noone
Well put.
Can we stop asking “why” there is something rather than nothing. There is no why. There is no reason or purpose that something exists. The question at best is “how” things have emerged as they have. We also will likely never know what came before. It’s a pointless question.
You're really missing the point.
Nothingness has no limitations on possibilities. Otherwise it wouldn't be nothingness. Only possibilities are all the autogenic rules a finite turing machine can compute. Therefore those rules come into existence within nothingness. Time is the application of the rules onto each other. Space is the relationship between the rules. Quantum mechanics is a result from all the possible application orders of the existant rules. General relativity emerges from the dimensionality of a region of space changing due to space deleation/folding rules. The expansion of the universe are the self inserting 3 dimentional rules exponentially creating more of themselfs. Don't know how dark matter could fit into this hypothesis. But outside that idea consiousness is a story generated by a neural game engine for use by a simulated person for generating actions, predicting the future and planning around to maximize our reward function.
It's the same thing as an archeologist asking why there's a certain style of rock in a region. Not only that but it's really a fascinating thing to consider. Why are we here. Why is anything real. It's amazing and scary.
Yes, David, but we can't
help being curious :
People always say how
"curious" we are..😊.
Our enquiring minds
have led us to discover
so many things....
When folk ask " why? " ,
we say, " why not ?".
I " love " Prof' Dawkins..
great teacher....
a gentle , sensitive
human .🦉😊
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@@rickybloss8537 Ricky,
that's a lot to take in :
thank you ! 🙂🦉🤔🦉
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A child talking to a man
Maybe one day Dawkins will grow up
Supposing the situation was reversed and a religious person being interviewed said they wanted to get rid of science? What arrogance, Dawkins stating he wanted to get rid of religion, what happened to tolerance. Dawkins also said Jewish people have a strong reason for religion but Christ being crucified is not a reason for Christians be loyal to Christianity and to live its message? Religion being 500 years old, really? Native peoples and all of humanity were religious going back to the earliest days on record? What ignorance you are expressing Mr. Dawkins. The tape cut off, someone likely killed it as it was veering into the ridiculous.
Nonsense
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Sense not nonsense.
Religion has caused you to view many things backwards.
He knows far more about Christianity than you do.
Seems like you missed the whole point of that part. The accusation of arrogance seems a projection to me.
Heirs Hosts shared, "i" AM will say a BLINK nor a TWINKLE OF AN EYE! As HE IS! As HERE all HIS shared "i" AM. A twinkle of an EYE! Speed come here! Remind and comes with comfort concerning Who? Where thy motion nor given the approval? From Thee LORD! Why?
Because you are nonsense and irrelevant.
Dawkins is a bigot
For HIS Beautiful will say, remember HATE is murder unto HIM! Yes, HE was denied by a kiss before! Nor denied in front of HIS Heir Host Pilot! Why PILOT washed HIS HANDS? Knows the Holy BLOOD STAINS UPON accusers hands! Yes, How else can all the accusers came with curses upon one another! To be set underfoot? Prepared for the little Child born "i" under HIS FEET! COME My little child born "i" and take thy seat with Thy "AM"! The "i" AM. The I AM singularity shared "i" AM come forth! Sincere conversations now can take place! Between "i" and His AM. Remember where increase belongs? And know who gives increase?
The nonsense jesus bot.
Matthew 11: v 27-All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. God decides who and when we shall know Him.
Who coined this nonsense?
Jesus is not in the house or anywhere else...
@@arifsaleem5467Mathew 11.27, can’t read ?
What a pile of absolutely useless nonsense.
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Matthew? It's a fictional character, even you know that.