Pferd Machnist Files Set: First Impressions
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- A first look at a set of Pferd machinist files I picked up. Quality and performance seem good so far. Anyone else have experience with Pferd Files?
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This Set:
PFERD 16078 5-Piece 8" 531 WRU Set (Amazon): amzn.to/2CHdwA2
Other Pferd five-file sets:
PFERD 16077 5-Piece 8" 531 WRU Set (Amazon): amzn.to/2EP34wl
PFERD 16079 5-Piece 8” 532 WRU Set (Amazon): amzn.to/2EPTtp0
PFERD 16080 5-Piece 10” 541 WRU Set (Amazon): amzn.to/2GHPdUZ
PFERD 16081 5-Piece 10” 542 WRU Set (Amazon): amzn.to/2BMUsmZ
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The first German tools I ever bought were a pair Pferd files about three years ago. So far I have been able sharpen a few other tools, shape brass/aluminum , and in a pinch remove wood in few different situations. The handle shape has made all the above much easier. Also the individually packaged ones say made in Germany and mine even listed the hardness at 63 HrC
Miss your videos, man. Best tool reviews on TH-cam, even still.
For the long term review, we are using them for around 20 years almost daily because we make special tools and prototypes, they are still good in shape^^
It seems like every file I own, with the exception of some very fine hobbyist model-making files I bought 20 years ago, is a cast-off or hand-me-down. You're encouraging me to think about doing some upgrading with this episode. Thanks very much for posting this video!
Randy Novick I think that’s most of us. Just bought a few and am glad I did!
I have quite a few Pferd files (and also carbide burs and abrasive wheels). They make a good product. Only a few of them have "Germany" printed on them. Very few files are made in Europe (and none in the US) any more. Grobet went from Switzerland to Italy for the most part, some made in India and Glardon-Vallorbe is the only Swiss file maker now as I recall. Nicholson, Simmonds, and all American brands now manufacture in Mexico, South America, and India. Bahco makes theirs in Spain and not Sweden now.
One way to know a quality file isn't just the hardness, but the grinding of the file prior to the teeth being cut. It should be smooth and grind marks uniform and very shallow. You can see them on the uncut area between the tang and teeth. Most files made these days look like they were ground on a bench grinder with a 46 grit wheel. Try the Barrette style Swiss pattern file. I've found them to be one of the best shapes to get into tight places, angles, and overall use. The safe back comes in extremely handy.
Pferd isn't really well known in Canada but fortunately the auto parts store I work at is now an official Pferd retailer, we have really made a difference with Pferd's grinding discs even to the point of having fabrication companies ditch their Norton and Walter stuff for Pferd!
Hi there!
It is not on toppic, but I want you to know, that there is a Wiha electricians toolkit in a Sortimo L-Boxx for just 50 Euro at German retailers. It was once a Bosch promotion but it seems to clog up to much storage units, so a lot of these are sold now. There are some to find on German eBay, too. I did a review on them and uploaded the video yesterday. Just FYI.
I used to love Pferd. But it seems that the quality lacks these days. I'd just buy the files solo and add some wooden handles if you use them often.
Regards,
Etna.
Cool, I'll check the Wiha set out, thanks.
Thx for the review I’ve never used file handles at all 😊
As always a pleasure to watch your videos keep then coming.
I have never heard of that brand name before but if they are made by a German company that's been doing it for hundreds of years I would trust that they are very well made. Like you said, time will tell.
Tim's Tool Reviews It's a well known brand in Europe and they are good. Similar company as Tyrolit.
I have yet to see a bad German made (industrial) product. Sure there maybe a better article something, but the German option is going to be a very strong candidate too. Sad that the rest of Europe is falling so much behind, so fast. First and third sector economies are good, but you actually need to MAKE something at some point.
Just the review i needed. Thanks
All I know is that there is no File maker left that produces in Germany. Most produce in India where they shipped the German machines to. They also ship steel from Germany to India and the tools back. I know that you can still get hand hewn Files in Germany but I guess that is old stock. Some sold under German brands are made in Switzerland.
Cool thanks for the information.
Yep, F. Dick outsourced their file production to "Vallorbe" in Switzerland. Only their knives are still made in Germany.
This is not correct pferd still manufactures many type of files in Germany
Again? I spoke to someone from Pferd a few years ago and he said that the machines are standing in India (Because I wanted special ones).
The website says that they have 2 factories in Germany and so do the jobs they offer
Pferd still has a large manufacturing facility in Marienheide, Germany. Marienheide is where Pferd began making files for blacksmiths in 1799, per the company website. Although, I'm not sure what is produced there today.
On a side note, I'm very curious how these compare to the Stahlwille file set I've been looking at on KC Tool. Have you ever used any of the Stahlwille files?
I have one of the Stahlwille waring file sets, P/N 12800. They are made in India, but have been holding up so far. They have varnished wood handles. There is a more expensive set of key files, 13100, that is made in Poland.
I have a set of stahlwille files that look very similar to these actually, all have made in Germany on them too, are bloody excellent files
No matter the brand, keep two sets of files, and reserve one set for soft non-ferrous metals and plastic and so on.
A file will never cut brass the same after you have used it on steel.
You can rotate the used "soft" files onward to steel to some extent, but often you want different cuts anyway.
Bahco Ergo file handles are also very good. Nicholson handles suck IMO, they taper too much at the end and I constantly feel like the file is slipping out of my hand.
They cost about 3x the price of a Brazilian made Nicholson here in Mexico, but yeah! They're great still.
When I saw the brand name the first thing that came to mind was they were shortening the word "Preferred" as a marketing ploy.
How well have they held up so far? Has anyone used these long term?
I don’t like plastic handles; I use wooden ones, sometimes self made. Some from alder wood where I left the bark on are very comfy.
nice job. very informative
Hallo from Germany, I use Pferd files every day. They are are really good value for money if you think that for the average person they will last a lfietime... Every day industrial use they last for years...
Can you do a review of a tool made by facom and also a review of a tool made by pb swiss?
more nice stuff from germany
Can you cut steel with it
Half way through the video and the only thing important about a file is how hard is it and how longgydo they last... Not the handle
German tools are the best!!
hmm, you just mighjt be my excuse to update my files :-) thanks
We get them in South Africa very good quality
You're pronouncing it wrong. The "pfer" part of the word sounds more like "fair" and not "fear". I'm spending lot of money because of watching your reviews. Thanks.
Then I guess I've always said that wrong because that was the way my high school German teacher taught us. One of the first words you learn are the animals...Hund, Katze, Vogel, Pferd, Kuh, Maus
noticed that too.. maybe your teacher learned a different dialect? google translate pronounces it the way I learned, which is kinda like a Berlin style: translate.google.com/#de/en/Pferd
When working a project one has to balance price with performance-- Pferd is just too expensive to justify purchasing them- Even if I went through 3 cheaper sets it still would be cheaper than Pferd. A file is a tool that removes metal- not a sports car- for the price Pferd is asking the files should come in a hardwood case not a cheap cardboard box- even then they're overpriced.
This is from an old childrens tv show. watch?v=cw-YhPH7YVk
Nobody knows how to make a file anymore. It's a lost art!
Not true. The best files are still made by a German knife company called F.Dick which have been around since 1778: www.dick.de/en/files-and-rasps/products/
Just out of interest, do you have children , a son who will inherit all these tools. Cause man you sure do collect tools. And tools are expensive but they worth very little s cond hand, you basically never get your money back. Perhaps you one of those rich show off ornament type folks.