Magnificent! From a time when armies not only wore bright uniforms, but used different colors for different units. For the Austrians alone I see white for infantry and cuirassiers, green for uhlans (lancers), and blue for hussars.
@@igorjajic6898, Serbian Russ land?? What a hell is that? You must be a racist bigot pig. You and you type have no place in Europe, shame on you pig!!
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@@igorjajic6898 romanian nation stand by you Serbia my brother any day vs austrohungayry! i doesnt care even is my destruction like a nation i prefer speking rusian not forced maghiarizarion like in our Romanian Transilvania!
Justice ? The habsburg rule Hungary because they don’t have a boy descent only girl and they married them to the habsburg cause if not the ottoman will came in and grab it far back then they are very terrified there army humourous And best in the world . The Austrians they didn’t do anything worst they done all the same whatever it was the Croat hungri or romanian they were being treat at the same level as germans. That why they rule peaceful for nearly 7-800 years others place in the world is crueler than that.remember that.
Damn I wish that this was overdubbed in English and released in the West. The western world knows nothing of our history. Nothing is taught in the schools.
I learned magyars invaded Europe and were defeated at Lechfeld and settled down in Hungary. Fought the Turks and won. Fought the Turks again and lost and were conquered. Austria came in and took Hungary from the Turks. Hungary fought the Austrians and lost (48) and latter came to an arrangement as Austria-Hungary. Gain its independence after it lost in WW1 and [lost] a lot of territory. Join Hitler and gained some territory back but lost to the Soviet Union in 45 and again in 56. Overthrew the communists in '89 (?) and is now like a rebel state in Europe.
@@jrt818 "rebel state of europe" Orban knows the limits of his actions. He's like teenager who pisses of his parents (germany, france) but knows where are the limits of his actions cause he don't want to be knicked out from the house (the union).
"Плохо ты брат мадьяров знаешь!"(Старый Сапёр Водичка)... Хотел бы я выучить венгерский, а то нифига не понятно. Когда смотришь на английском, французском, немецком, испанском, итальянском, или каких то западнославянских языках, хоть что то ясно. А тут - как китайская грамота. Хотя, язык энергичный. P.S. Без шапки - это Шандор Петефи?
Yes! Red doesn't always mean communist or leftist. Just think about the fact, that the Roman legioners wore also red clothing underneath their armor and a red robe, not to mention the British uniforms from the 18. th century. In this case it was simply the color of revolt against Habsburg Austria, and the newly risen Hungarian army(now separated from the Habsburg Austria's military) wanted to wear different uniforms than their old Austrian ones(which was mainly white upper clothing, with black hats and white or grey trousers...as you can see in the movie). The revolution came so fast, that the suddenly independent Hungarian Republic had hard times to organise equipment(weapons and uniforms), as the military industry was almost completely in the hands of Austria. This had not influenced the fact that Habsburg Austria was defeated and only the intervention of the Russian Empire saved them from the total collapse.
@@ottotot2097 I do not even understand why You thought I connect Bem red cap with comunism. I must inform you that red colour of blood does not mean people and animals are communists in general!
He learned a couple of words in Hungarian, for example in this very battle, he said to his retreating troops „Ne fuss magyar! Nincs híd, nincs haza.” (Don't run Hungarian! No bridge, no motherland - they had to hold the bridge over the river Sztrigy at all costs.) But usually he spoke in French or - quite badly - in German.
Great video, but I have to correct you on some details from your description below the video. 1. Yes, many nationalities lived in Hungary during the time of the Hungarian revolution of 1848-49. But it was not always like this. Before the battle of Mohács of 1526, which brought the Ottoman occupation, Hungary had 80 % Hungarian population. The Muslim Ottomans massacred a huge part of the Hungarians, and took the others, and brought them to Anatolia and other places of their empire. Many Hungarians even were deported to Egypt, the descendants of them today being the Magyarabs in Egypt and Sudan. After the Ottomans practically emptied Hungary, in their place were brought by the Ottomans, than by the Austrians, who chased out the Ottomans, occupying themselves the country, Serbians, Romanians and other prople, who became the ancesters of those nationalities which rebelled in 1848, on Austrian money, although Hungary gave them the greatest nationality rights which were given to a nationality in the 19th century. These rights were fortified in the Nationality Law of 28 July 1849, the first ever nationality law in the world! Despite of this, half of the Romanians, the Croatians, the Serbians, the Transylvanian Saxons and a part of Slovaks rebelled against Hungary, because the Austrians promised them that they will give them Hungarian lands to start there their own states. Other nationalities like the Russins, the majority of the Slovaks, half of the Romanians, the majority of the Germans and the Jews supported the Hungarian government, and fought in the Hungarian army. So only a half of the nationalities of Hungary helped the Austrians, the other half helped Hungary. Look that Hungary issued his money in Hungarian-German, Slovak,-Serbo/Croatian-Romanian languages, which show that these nationalities had unprecedented rights in Europe: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Kossuth_bank%C3%B3.jpg/1200px-Kossuth_bank%C3%B3.jpg 2. About how the war started. In 15th of March 1848, the Hungarians made a peaceful revolution in Budapest led by the Hungarian national poet, Sándor Petőfi, and Lajos Kossuth went to Vienna, which was that time in revolution, and made the emperor to accept the Hungarian demands of autonomy of the country. The emperor sweared on the Hungarian constitution, which ment that he recognised the Hungarian autonomy. Yes, many revolutions were in the empire at that time: Vienna, Italy, Prague. But in the summer of 1848, after the battle of Custozza, the Austrians put down all these revolutions, and decided to attack Hungary. So they started to incite the nationalities from Hungary to rebell against the Hungarians, than in 11 September 1848, Jelacic the Croatian ban, attacked Hungary. The Hungarian government resigned, because the emperor broke his word and swear on the Hungarian constitution, and declared the Hungarian government illegal. So started the war between Hungary and Austria and his nationality allies from Hungary. SO NOT THE HUNGARIANS ATTACKED AUSTRIA, AS YOU SAY, BUT THE AUSTRIANS DID THAT. Than the Austrian troops, helped by the Croatian troops of Jelacic, invaded Hungary in 5 December 1848. They occupied Budapest in 5th January 1849, while the Serbians occupied Southern Hungary, the Austrians led by Anton Puchner together with Romanian and Saxon troops, joined in February 1849 by 8 000 Russians, Transylvania, the Austrian troops of Franz Schlik Northern Hungary, taking over the majority of the Hungarian territory. But starting with March 1849, the Hungarian army defeated heavily these enemies in all fronts (after the victory of Józef Bem at Nagyszeben in 11 March against the Russo-Austrian troops- about which battle this very movie, which you uploaded here talks - and the decissive victory of Artúr Görgey against the main Austrian troops of Alfred Windischgraetz at Isaszeg at 6th April), and liberated almost all Hungary, except som minor territories near the borders. At 14th April 1849 Hungary declared its total independence, and in 21th May liberated the castle of Buda after a long siege, from the Austrian troops. The Austrians were now affraid to loose their capital, Vienna, and demanded a huge Russian support from tzar Nicholas I. The new Austrian emperor went to Warshaw, than in Russian hands, and kissed the hands of Nicholas to thank his help to crush Hungary. So 200 000 Russians, together with 170 000 Austrians, and around 50 000 nationality troops attacked Hungary. The mission of defeating this 420 000 strong invasion army was in the hands of 165 000 Hungarian troops, which were very ill armed, and had lack of ammunitions. Of course it was impossible to do this. But despite of this, the Hungarian troops won several great victories against this huge army, like at 2nd July at Komárom, 15-17th July at Vác, 14th July at Kishegyes or 2-3 August 1849 at Komárom. But of course the conclusion could not be other than defeat. So at 13th August 1849, the main Hungarian troops led by Artúr Görgei put down their weapons infront of the Russian troops at Világos. But the last resistance stopped only at 2nd October with the surrender of Komárom.
Oh, thank you very much for your comments. I have a deep interest and interest in Eastern European history, but in our country Eastern European history has less academic understanding than Western European history. So it's hard to get information. I usually have to rely on English encyclopedias, but I don't know what's true and what's not true.
Vincent Celeste Well it is hard to say what it was. We hungarians call it freedom war, war for liberation from the Habsburg rule (szabadsagharc). In my oppinion it was like the American revolution agaoinat the English rule led by George Washington.
Splendid Thank you very much for your interest in our history. Yes its very hard to know from outside what it really happened. Even for us, the Hungarians is hard, because, for example today too, the majority of the historical documents from that war, are in Vienna, and many of them were not released to the historians. From many of the major battles we have only the contemporary Austrians descriptions, and these, of course represent only their point of view. The Hungarians, who fought war for life and death, had no time to describe the battles and other events, right after they happened, than after the defeat of the revolution the interdicted for many decades to Hungarians to research these, and during this times the participants died out. But, of cpurse, we, Hungarians know better what happened in those time, because we have great historians who research that. And I can say also, that they are more objective than those of our neighbouring countries. The latters try every time to present the common history and wars with Hungarians, like their nation was like an angel, did nothing wrong, while the Hungarians were devils. In their oppinion Hungary oppressed them, killed them and so on, while they are very quiet about what the nationality allies of the Austrians did against the Hungarian civil population, their massacres against the unarmed Hungarian women, children and men, only because they were Hungarians. And they are also quiet, when we show them the Kossuth bancnotes or talk about the first minority legislation in the world from july 1849, as a proof that they lie when they talk about oppression. Maybe they had not the same rights as the Hungarians, but certainly they had more rights than any nationality in the world in those times. On the other hand Hungarian historians are not one sided, like the Croatian, Romanian, Serbian or Slovak historians (who have the guts to represent the movements of their nations in 1848, as revolutions, while they fought for the Habsburg empire against the Hungarian revolution - so to fight against a revolution is not a revolution is not a revolution, but a counter revolution) because they point out also the faults of the Hungarians against these people, that they commited cruelty acts ans sometimes massacres against Romanians or Serbians, as a response to their massacres, amd that at the beginning, they were reluctant to give them every right that they wanted. The Romanian and Slavik historians only talk about this, but are quiet about tge rights they received some months later, which rights their ancesters (of course not all but half of them) rejected, and joined th Austrian empire.
I am happy to talk with the Hungarian people about this history now. I feel as much pleasure as finding a treasure when I find movies about Hungarian history and the history of the Balkans.
They were invaded Hungary for 150 years, destroyed the heritage of the Hungarian medieval age, but sometimes anyway they helped, yes. If their interest seeked that...
Maďari si chceli vydobiť väčšiu samostatnosť a zrovnoprávnenie s Rakúskymi krajinami ale na svojom území- Uhorsko voči iným národom uplatňovali tvrdú ruku
Ну хоть в одном кино показали как кавалерию на картечь могли навести. А то вряд-ли они просто так скакали на пушки, а тут лошары думали мол щас лопухов изрубим в капусту и облом.
You'd really think, given their historical penchant for it, that their nationalist propaganda would be slightly less crude and beat you over the head-blatant. Frankly, the only people to come out of this looking good are the costumers - who did an absolutely amazing job.
nagyon örülök neki hogy nem csak feltetted, de feliratiztad is! viszont 1 hiba van az angol résznél, amikor bem azt mondja, hogy fúvasson takarodót, akkor nem alarm, ami riadót jelent, mert támadásnál mondják ezt! A takarodó a visszavonulást jelenti, ami angolul fall back! kérlek javítsátok ki ha van rá lehetőség! valamint úgy láttam van igény az első rész feliratozására is! kérlek ha van rá időtök tegyétek meg!
Диоген Полигонщик. А сейчас в моде фильмы, в которых восхваляются поражения: "Перл - Харбор", "Дюнкерк", недавний янкише фильм про их "героическую" высадку во Франции в 44-ом...
@@georgipetrov4227 А уж как сейчас венгры "свободны" под Гейросоюзом и НАТО... О том как они умирали за австрияков с 1526 по 1918(с короткими перерывами при Бетлене, Текели, Ракоци и Кошуте) и за Гитлера в 1941-45, умолчим...
A good old movie was made during the communist dictatorship. This explains the text at the end that Bem says that this is real internationalism and a world revolution. Ridiculous. There was no question of such a thing regardless of the fact that the sons of many peoples fought in the Hungarian army, some for personal reasons and others because of their antipathy towards the Habsburg Empire.
Az 1848 -as forradalmaknak nagy helye van a világtörténelemben, azonban a magyarok függetlenségigénye az Osztrák Birodalomtól szabadságharc lett, és Ferenc József osztrák császár Magyarország császára lett, bár a magyarok megnyerték a háborút.
"A bécsi légió kerüljön az ellenség hátába, aztán elébük és reája." :D Nem tudom ki írta ezt a szöveget, de akkora marhaság,, pont amilyennek hangzik :D
Any of these poor, ignorant foot soldiers could've fought just as bravely for the other side and would not have known what they were fighting for, or against. That is the way of war.
@Outcast of The Blue Fire Nation of Outlandia The Habsburg Empire did have more men on the Italian front, and even the Hungarian parlament was unsure about the dethronization, but of course the Russian intervention decided the end of the war
Doug's Soldiers Hungarian revolution in 19c. was endid by invasion of Russian empire. Same in 1956. Shame on Orban for dealung with the enemy of Civilization.
@@georgipetrov4227 How about hungarian invasion in 1941? And now compare numbers of victims of 1848+1956 vs 1941. And shut up, proponent of civilisation.
the film lies. This war was not for the interests of Hungarian nationality. It is typical that the film was made in 1953 under the Communist dictatorship.
Are you saying that this film was made under socialist system and that the value of the film was not made because it was made in the age of communism? Is the movie made in the country under the Communist Party unconditionally worthless? So, what do you think about 'war and peace'( 1966-67 )?
In the film is some communist propaganda, like in the end, 6:17 when Genaral bem said, looking to the soldiers marching: "This is a real internationalism", and Petőfi replyed: "The soldiers of world freedom". But Petőfi (who in film is played by a 50 years old actor, while in reality he had only 26 years), in his poems really wrote about world freedom, like in his poem Egy gondolat bánt engemet (A taught hurts me). Other untruth propaganda is when Puchner the Austrian general, in the battle of Piski sais: "Lets let the Romanian insurgents to attack", and the Orthodox Romanian archbishop (Andrei Saguna) says: "But Avram Iancu (the leader of Romanians) will not fight against Bem", while in reality the Romanian insurgents participated in that battle against the Hungarians, and Avram Iancu led his troops to kill 10 000 Hungarian civilians in the most barbarian ways possible. For example his troops tortured and killed the sister of the great Hungarian writer, Imre Madách (writer of the drama The Human Tragedy, recognized as one of the greatest plays in dramaturgy), her 15 years old son and her husband, by throwing them infront of famished pigs, which eat them alive. Avram Iancu indeed did not fought Bem, because he had no courage in doing this in open fields, only among his mountains, where Bem did not entered, although he planned to do that, but the Russian intervention forced him to fight against the Russians. So the movie tries to present the Romanians of Avram Iancu in a positive way, as fighters for freedom, who sympathised with the Hungarians, but in reality they were the helpers of the Austrian troops, causing damages to them and the Hungarian population, every place where they could. Another communist intervention in the movie is when they show the battle of Nagyszeben (in the final part of the movie), Bem's greatest victory, they do not use Russian soldiers, although the majority of the enemy army was the Russian intervention troops led by Igor Skaryatin. But the makers of the movie fearing that the Soviets who ruled Hungary in those times, will be angered of this, so they showed only Austrian soldiers. Yes we can find Communist propaganda and distortion of the historical truth in the film, but at least we have a historical movie here, while today Hungary does not make any real historical movies... And of course we cannot expect from a movie to present 100 % historical truth... The movie is considered art (but the truth is that its more political or social propaganda than art, as they are todays Hollywood movies too), so they can distort history. So its better to have a movie with errors, than have nothing.
Magaa háború voltmagyar nemzetiség ellenes. Céljai egészen mások voltakmint ahogy az ma a közt8udatban él. A kortársak sem látták, és azóta is rejtve van az igazi cél. Ennek kifejtése itt ezen a helyen hát hogy is mondjam , ninc skevem hozzá, de az biztos hogy nem volt egyszerű rájönni. Tessék figyelni a rákövetkező korszakot úgy 1867 és 1914 között. Ott a megfejtés.
Name 1997 Read my dispute here with Johny Jergovich, to see that this accusation is a big lie. I do not want to repeat all what I wtote here before. So before you comment first read the comments. This accusation that the the Hungarians behave badly with the nationalities is a huge lie. In the matter of fact todays Romania, Slovakia or Ukrain does not give so many rights to todays Hungarian minorities, as Hungary gave to the Serbians, Romanians, Croatians or Slovaks in 1849.
Так тут не русские а австрияки, форма то белая. А Паскевич в Венгрии вообще баталий не устраивал, одними маневрами так Гергея загонял, что тот сдался...
Hungarian revolution against who? Austria? I presume this was made by the communist govt. Weird the communists never made a movie about the uprising against the Soviet occupation.
Weird?...XD...clearly, you have never lived in a Soviet occupied communist country, man! In that case, you'd know that any director, writer would have never had their movie published, if not destroyed and him/herself landing in prison or even to the gulag in Siberia. Communism was not the pink fluffy unicorn world that some idiot leftist try to make it look like, to the ppl in the West, today. It was tyranny, a grey world with no freedom of speak(at all in the public) or making art any different direction than the ideology allowed. Only "allowed" art was existing and even that controlled by censors. It's like you'd ask: Why no nazi state supported German directors, film makers in Germany were making films in the 1930's-40's, showing the evil nature of Hitler? There wasn't rly an option like that....XD
1848 nem magyar forradalom volt. Tessék elkezdeni ezt a gondolatot ízlelgetni és lassan lassan értelmezni. Úgy vagy 170 évvel később már érdemes lenne megérteni
A magyarok kihasználták az európai eseményeket amik 1848 elején kezdődtek. Hogy kinek az érdeke (természetesen a háttérhatalomé) volt mindez, az mindegy. De ne feledjük el, hogy abban a pillanatban Magyarország Habsburg elnyomás alatt állt, akik megtömték Magyarországot románokkal, szerbekkel, németekkel, ezáltal megteremtve Trianon okait, és mindent megtettek azért, hogy ezek a nemzetiségek a magyarokat gyűlöljék, felhasználva őket a magyar szabadságküzdelmek ellen, arra biztatva őket, hogy hátbaszúrják a magyarokat, ahányszor ők felkelni próbáltak. Nem az osztrákok nevelték fel, küldték Rómába és nyugatra tanulni azon románokat, akik megalapították az Erdélyi iskolának nevezett román nacionalista egyletet, akik fennen kezdték hírdetni a dákó-román elméletet, és hogy ennek okán ők Erdély urai és nem a magyarok, megteremtve ezzel az Avram Iancu féle mészárlások ideológiai okait? Ugyanúgy segítették a szerb, szlovák vagy horvát nacionalizmus és magyargyűlölet megerősödését. A forradalom előtt nem az osztrákok küldték a Magyarországon szerveződött magyar származású bakákból és huszárokból álló ezredeket a birodalom más tartományaiba, és tömték meg Magyarországot idegen katonasággal, és adtak fegyvert a románok, szerbek és horvátok kezébe, határőrezredekké szervezve őket? Miközben a magyar katonákat mind külföldre küldték, addig minden román, szerb vagy horvát katonát Magyarországon hagytak, hogy sakkban tartsák a magyarokat. Mi baj történhetett volna ebből ugyebár? "Csupán "néhány magyarellenes népirtás, és a magyarok hátbatámadása, és az osztrákokkal való szövetkezésük... Ennyire "becsületesek" voltak az osztrákok... Vajon a Horea által 1783-84-ben elkövetett magyarellenes mészárlások nem az osztrák felbújtásnak köszönhetők? Vajon Avram Iancu, Knicanin, Hurban, vagy Jellasics nem az osztrákokat segítették a magyarok ellen? És ez véletlen lenne? Jól tudjuk, hogy nem az... Mindez nem adott okot, hogy a magyarok kihasználják az 1848-as forradalmakat, hogy elérhessék legalább az önrendelkezésüket a birodalmon belül, a magyar katonaság hazahívását és a külföldi elküldését, hogy megvédhessék a hazájukat? Mindegy, hogy ki indította el a párizsi forradalmat, a magyarok jórészt azonban a saját nemzeti érdekeiket követték, hogy megszabaduljanak a Magyarországot elsorvasztó Habsburg hatalomtól, hogy a kezükbe vehessék végre a sorsukat. Sajnos az orosz intervenció miatt ez nem sikerült... Kossuthék ennek ellenére a végsőkig kitartottak a magyar királyság intézménye mellett, még az osztrák támadás után is, csupán az 1849 március 4-i oktrojált alkotmány bécsi kikiáltása után, amikor is Ferenc Jóska eltörölte Magyarországot, akkor határozták el a trónfosztást... Tehát ha annyira libsi forradalom lett volna, akkor Kossuthék miért nem kikáltották ki már 1848 március 15-én a köztársaságot? Miért vált páriává a forradalmat követő hónapokban Petőfi azért mert a királyság ellen agitált? Jó lenne ezen elgondolkodni...
most mennem kell de azért súgok valamit. -----Kossuth bankó története.---- Kezd el utána nézni. Kossuth-ék és bandája, nem voltak valójában a Habsburgok ellenségei,hanem valójában együtműködő cinkosai. Az igyazi ellenség a magyar lakosság volt. A magyar népi kultúra és történelmi öntudat. Aháborúnak gazdasági okai voltak. A többi csak dísz és mese.Sajnos most mennem kell. Egyébként is mindek meséljekelmindent. Úgy szép ha magadtól jösz rá.
Még egyszer olvasd el, amit írtam. És szerinted miben segített a magyar népi kultúrán a Habsburg uralom, azonkívül, hogy megtömték az országot idegenekkel és a magyarok ellen izgatták őket, megteremtve ezzel a Trianon okait? Olvasd el a 12 pontot, és rájössz, hogy igenis a magyarságért volt a forradalom. Pont az, hogy nem volt trónfosztás március 15-én, és nem kiáltották ki a köztársaságot, mutatja, hogy Kossuthék számára fontos volt a történelmi öntudat. Hogy ők is részben, a háttérhatalom által szervezett megosztó és romboló ideológia hatása alatt álltak, az más tészta. Ők valóban hitték azt, hogy az a népüket szolgálja. A nemesi előjogok eltörlése a jobbágyoknak való földosztás, meg egyebek... Most tudjuk, hogy ez rézse volt Magyarország lerombolásának. Azok, akik nekik ezeket tanították, nem mondták azt, hogy ezzel az céljuk, hogy kivegyék a magyarok kezéből az ország földjét. Máskülönben is lehetetlen lett volna, hogy Magyarország megmaradt volna feudális államnak, miközben az egész világ már nem volt az... A téves ideológiájuk ellenére, a magyar forradalmárok szerették Magyarországot és népét, és őszintén azt hitték, hogy ez mentheti meg az országot. Olvasd csak el Petőfi verseit, aki a királyokat, a nemeseket, a papokat szidja, a világszabadságról beszél, de amikor a hazájáról, a magyar történelemről ír verseket, igazi hazaszeretet árad belőlük. Olvasd el az Élet vagy halál című versét, vagy a Magyar vagyok címűt. A népi kultúra ellen lett volna? Ő volt a legnépiesebb költő! Ő írta a János vitézt! Ő írt több száz népies verset! Nem volt ő a magyar nép meg a kultúrája ellen. Csak elhülyítették a szabadkőműves francia forradalom eszméi. Ebben valóban tévedett. De nem azért, mert valamilyen sötét összeeskűvés részese lett volna, hanem csak azért mert fiatal és naiv volt. Sajnos ez az igazság. De a magyar forradalmároknak részben igazuk volt. A Habsburg uralom tarthatatlan volt, ha nem akarták, hogy Magyarországról eltűnjön az utolsó magyar is. Az amit a Habsburgok csináltak akkor, pont az volt, amit az EU tesz a migránsokkal Európa ellen. Tehát a forradalomra és szabadságharcra szükség volt.
You mean the croatian government asked for greater independance from Hungary wich was granted, then Jelacic on the orders of Wien decided to attack hungary anyway, the habsburgs supplied his army then Josip jelacic got defeated at Pákozd and then he fought by the side of Windisch gratz and took Buda And Pest with him, then he and good old winidisch got defeated again in the spring campaign, then the habsburgs called in the russians to the war and the hungarians surrendered to the russians, to the russians not jelacic. No offense, i might add i think croatia is a good neighbour and i support croatian independance.
Hungarians burned my home town to the ground in 1848 during so called "revolution". Thousends died, for them making a deal to split country up to Austro-Hungaria. That lead to internal conflicts in the country, Hungarians becoming more and more opresive against other nations in it. One of the causes of WW1 was Hasburgs trying to give way to Hungarian pretensions in southern Europe, not that thay didnt had the same aspirations.
>Hungarians becoming more and more opresive against other nations in it. Sure. Learning the language of your country is utterly oppressive ? And what came after them was any better ?
@@charlesisland1895 yes, exterminating other languages is oppressive. And what came after them was absolutely ahead. I.e. Czechoslovakia was modern, democratic state. With i.e. women having right to vote since the beginning. Hungary remained utterly aggressive totalitarian one.
Jankó Ábrahám was a bandit, as the movie says: he never fought against armed forces, his greatest bravery was robbing and killing civilians, burning schools, churches and libraries. Later he got his punishment from God: died alone, lost his mind, just roaming in the mountains and trying to play daconazi songs on his flute...
@@istvancsiszer8229 false. He never ordered any massacre. The massacres were carried out by romanian peasants by their own initiative(mostly for avenging the previous massacres made by hungarians, or for simple banditism), while Avram Iancu togheeter with Axente Sever and other leaders were involved in resisting in a guerilla war against hungarian militias and honveds, and survival of the romanian people during the civil war.
Are they fighting because they don't like the hats of the other side? The reasons for these European wars is that ridiculous. All the soldiers could change sides and they still wouldn't know what they are fighting for.
Hehe hehe! Peace bro! We'll it's not Bright side of our history, after all we fight together against turks and Austrian centralize and we have like 600 years of unity. Our nations suffer equly over history. And it's fuck up thing with nationalism and emotions hehehe. It was that time as it was. Brother bloodbath... Sad
Johny Jergovic This is not true! In the Hungarian revolutionary army particupated, alongside Hungarians. The German, the Viennese, the Italian and the Polish legion fought for Hungary, many of the Generals were Polish (Jozef Bem, Henrik Dembinski, Jozef Wisocki), Serbian (Janos Damjanich), German (Karl Leiningen Westerburg, Georg Lahner), and even English (Richard Guyon). Half of the Romanians, the Majority of the Slovakians, all the Ruthens, the majority of the Germans from Hungary also fought in the Hungarian army against the Habsburgs and Romanov emperors, whos ally was Jelacic. One of the Hungarian generals was even a Croatian, named Karl Knezich, and died, being executed by the Austrian general Julius von Haynau. So instead of writing here lies, please read some history...
Well at begining there was this romantic revolutionary feling that the fight for the right couse but soon and going to the end of war they more and more realase that they fight for hungary exspansion and wrong cose. By time, serbs, croats, slovakians, rumunians and other entitetes fight firlese battles ageinst no hungary people but against despot goverment in budapest! In the word is this romantic wieu on this revolution but for as little nations it was strugle for survive! History is not childrenbook. Sorry for response but we must be critical and objectiv about history. There”s no black white story here.
Johny Jergovic "Sorry for response but we must be critical and objectiv about history." Well, you should start this with yourself. I brought here many proofs that the Hungarian government was not "despotic" as you try to demonstrate. Nowhere in the world at that moment a government was ready to give such huge rights to the nationalities, as Hungary. Even gave promise to give full autonomy to Croatia. The Hungarian money had inscriptions in the nationalities languages. Show me today one country in the world which gives these rights to the minorities! This is not romanticism, this is the truth! I gave you that article, I gave you the photos of Kossuth's money as proofs. Today the Romanian, Slovak or Ukrainian government refuse from the Hungarians even a crumb of the rights which the Hungarian government offered to the nationalities. So what are you talking about man?
Soo if i understood!? Only hungarian side of history is right and we all other nationality are wrong and have drunken idiots ho write history??? Its call revision of history! Sorry dude i will put my side on serbian, croatian, slovakian and god knows wich nacionalty seriuse historianas! 😂😂😂😂 Im have it enaf!!
Mr. Jergovic, this is the truth! How can you call the good people those who allied themselves with the Habsburg emperors, who oppressed them, against the Hungarians who wanted their freedom, and promised autonomy and gave rights to the nationalities, which today too can be considered very democratic (like I showed in my comments to your former comments)? How can you call those nationality leaders who allied themselves with the most oppressive empires of those times (the Habsburgs and the Russians) against a nation which fought for freedom, rejecting the Hungarians friendly approach, promises of autonomy, and some of them (the Romanians and the Serbians) making massacres against the Hungarian population, the good guys? This is not one sided story. This is the truth. You cannot make a truth of your own... Besides this movie has nothing about Croatians. So why do you comment here? You seem that you hate Hungarians, who in your freedom war against the Serbians in the 1990s, helped you soo much, gave you weapons, helping you to become independent... You seem to be different from the majority of the Croatians who are thankful for the Hungarian help... And do not forget our common history, our common fights against the Ottoman invasion neither.
@Alexandru Muscas Say those who still learn in the school the lies invented by the Communist historians of Ceausescu. Even some of your historians who think normally, like Lucian Boia, recognize that your official history is nothing else than nationalist propaganda.
@Alexandru Muscas I bet you have no guts to go to Boia and tell this lie on his face. You just comment and accuse him of being payed by the Hungarians from the safety of your youtube account. Like all your racist Romanian comrades.
@Alexandru Muscas Lets see. Lets not question the credibility of your source. I have no time to research if this was only invented by you or some of the nationalist Romanian journals. Lets assume that these lines were really written down. An did you asked, if its true what you say, why did some Hungarian newspapers wrote such things about Romanians? Did you? Lets look on the events. 1848.10.12. Kisenyed (Sângătin) - Romanian peasants massacred 140 Hungarian civilians, 1848.10.14-18. Magyarigen (Ighiu) - Romanian peasants massacred 176 Hungarian families (if we take a family as 4 people, the minimum for those times that means 704 people), Between 12-20 October there were Romanian massacres against Hungarian civilians in the following localities: Asszonynépe (Asinip), Boklya (Bochia), Borosbocsárd (Bucerdea Vinoasa), Bugyfalva (Budesti), Csáklya (Cetea), Forrószeg (Forosig), Mikesásza (Micasasa), Zám (Zam), in total several thousands of Hungarians being killed. Around 20 October 1848, there were attrocities in: Around Balázsfalva (Blaj) - around 400 Hungarians, Alvinc (Vintu de Jos) - 2 Hungarians, Around Sárd (Sard) - 300 Hungarians, Algyógy (Geoagiu) - 85 Hungarians, 1848.10.21. Gyulafehérvár (Alba Iulia) - Romanians kill 42 Hungarian inhabitants of the city, 1848.10.23-24. Zalatna (Zlatna) - Ompolygyepű (Presaca Ampoiului) - Romanians kill 700 Hungarian civilians (women, children alike) in the most barbaric way. And the massacres continued until August 1849, killing women, children, old men alike. Here is a good documentary about these massacres. th-cam.com/video/7qXmve7pp7w/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=EPSfilm Here are some contemporary depictions of the terrible atrocities and massacres against the Hungarians: static.magyarhirlap.hu/mh/webimage/8/3/9/2/6/wimage/zalatnaimeszarlas.jpg kep.cdn.indexvas.hu/1/0/1671/16710/167104/16710442_d22323c47d08e9e23bccb956217583c3_wm.jpg 3.bp.blogspot.com/-lPkyblVw3Ok/VR2FOOJDQEI/AAAAAAAACPI/hK_Ss-Wdcss/s1600/Abrudb%C3%A1nya.jpg But you ask yourself why Kossuth’s newspaper wrote those? BECAUSE OF THESE MASSACRES! Is this not enough cause for you? After so many Hungarian women, children and unarmed men killed, you ask yourself, why Kossuth’s newspaper wrote this? Here is a Romanian historian, who cannot be named a friend of the Hungarians, Marius Diaconescu, who, although in a little biased way, which try to favourize the Romanians (he attacking in many of his writings the Hungarians, being one of the most nationalistic, we can say Hungarian-hater Romanian historians of today), recognize the Romanian atrocities against the Hungarians: “Românii nu au fost doar victime. Au fost la rândul lor călăi. Şi noi, românii, am ucis, am jefuit, am incendiat şi am violat. Mai mult sau mai puţin decât ungurii? În astfel de cazuri orice statistică sau evaluare cantitativă este fără sens. Documentele nu fac statistici, dar cantitatea poate fi exprimată printr-un singur cuvânt: mult.”www.historia.ro/sectiune/general/articol/avram-iancu-si-contra-revolutia-romaneasca-din-transilvania-in-1848-1849 He recognizes in the same article, that the real revolutionaries were the Hungarians, while Avram Iancu became the ally or the servant of the conunter-revolutionary Habsburg forces, which wanted to crush the Hungarian revolution: (“Dintr-o perspectivă globală, de ansamblu, românii au făcut contrarevoluţie, deoarece au fost instrumentul vechii guvernări absolutiste austriece împotriva revoluţiei maghiare. Folosindu-se de sentimentele de antipatie dintre români şi maghiari, austriecii, după ce au pierdut puterea în Transilvania în favoarea ungurilor, i-au manipulat pe români şi i-au folosit ca armată de gherilă împotriva ungurilor.”). So even your nationalist historian, Marius Diaconescu contradicts your claim that the Hungarian revolution was not a revolution, while the Romanians made the revolution.
So you come here with a book written, in 1851 by an American historian. Great job, man! Did you ask yourself if this guy was payed by the Habsburg Empire to denigrate the Hungarian revolution, which was very popular among the Americans and western Europeans in those times. Kossuth, when he went to America, he was celebrated like a hero, spoke in the American senate. And when Haynau, the Austrian general, who, with Russian help, crushed the Hungarian revolution, and executed more than 100 Hungarian generals and revolutionaries, was chased and beaten on the street, by the people of London, Bruxelles and Paris who sympathised with the Hungarian revolution, when he went there in visit. Of course the Habsburgs wanted to denigrate him in every way, so they payed some historians from America and different Western European countries to write these lies about Kossuth and the Hungarian revolution. Lets see the truth here. Did you saw the money of the Hungarian revolution, the Kossuth bankó (Kossuth banknotes)? en.mandadb.hu/common/file-servlet/document/334969/default/doc_url/2008302114.JPG The Hungarians and Kossuth were so “oppressive” towards the Romanians and the other nationalities, that they wrote in the languages of every one of those nationalities on the Hungarian money. the Romanian inscription is the Cyrillic inscription from the money, because then the Romanians used the Cyrillic alphabet. Yeah, Kossuth and the Hungarians were so “oppressive” that they wrote in the languages of the nationalities on the Hungarian money. I guess, in your great logic, that Romania today is oppressive towards the Hungarians, because it is no Hungarian inscription on Romanian money. Lets see what rights the Hungarians had promised to the Romanians in in August-September 1848, so large that today the Hungarians from Transylvania have no such rights. Unfortunately this video doesn’t talks about these rights elaborated by the Union Committee of the Hungarian parliament, but the truth is, that huge rights were promised to the Romanians, as I will give the source below: Lets see what rights promised the Hungarians to the Romanians, which the Romanians refused, and started instead to massacre the Hungarians: a.it permitted the use of the Romanian language in primary and secondary schools and seminaries, moreover in church administration. b.In villages of Romanian tongue and in the parishes, it recommended that the records should be both in Romanian and Hungarian, while it stipulated only Hungarian correspondence with other authorities. c.In counties, seats and cities inhabited by Romanians it allowed speeches in Romanian at official councils, and assemblies. d.In the language of command of the national guard, Romanian would be also used besides the Hungarian. e.The acts and royal and ministerial decrees would be published in Romanian as well. f.Official documents, requests, petitions written in Romanian would have to be accepted everywhere. g.Even those Romanians could be elected in the county assemblies and commissions who could not speak the Hungarian language but only understood it. h.Administrators of Romanian tongue paid by the state would be employed at the royal courts of justice for the free representation of the poor people of Romanian tongue. i.the Romanians were to be employed in a “fair proportion” in every branch of public administration. j.It promised that Transylvanian acts and laws prejudicial to Romanians would be repealed. k.Concerning educational affairs, the bill promised that the Romanian tongued population would be taken into account at the establishment of public schools. l.A department of Romanian philology and literature would be established at the university. www.epa.uz.ua/00400/00463/00005/pdf/152_katus.pdf So all of these weren’t enough for Avram Iancu and the other Romanian leaders to be peaceful, and not to massacre Hungarians. Today the Hungarians from Transylvania, which I am part of, have lesser rights than Kossuth promised to the Romanians in September 1848, and which weren’t enough for them. a.We do not have the right that in Hungarian villages the records have to be made only in Romanian. b.The language of the police, gendarmes and troops in the regions inhabited by the Hungarians in Transylvania, are only in Romanian, c.The official decrees of the towns, counties, ministries and state are only in Romanian, d.Official documents, decrees, petitions are only in Romanian, e.Those Hungarians who cannot speak Romanian, cannot be elected in county assemblies and commissions or any other official place. f.In the Hungarian majority counties in the public administration or state institutions or companies, as well as in police, courts, gendarmeries, prefectures the Romanians are represented in 70-80 %, while 70-80 % of the population of the counties are Hungarians. www.neuerweg.ro/singura-etnie-privilegiata-in-tinutul-secuiesc-sunt-romanii/ g. And on Romanian money you cannot see any Hungarian inscription... Today the Hungarians from Transylvania have far less rights than the Romanians of Avram Iancu... But the Romanians allied with the Habsburgs, and between October 1848 and January 1849 massacred thousands from the Hungarian population mainly from Southern Transylvania. Lets take it in this way: in 1848, when there was no international legislation in favour of minorities, and the majority of the countries were very oppressive with their nationalities, trying to assimilate, or exterminate them in every way, in Hungary you had Romanian inscriptions on your language, and nationality laws. And Józef Bem did not massacred the Romanians (this was done in several cases, as a response to the Romanian massacres aforementioned by Hungarian paramilitary groups, to which Bem commanded to stop the massacres), furthermore, he called them many many times to stop the anti-Hungarian attacks, promising them to be not punished by the Hungarian authorities for their crimes. Unfortunately they did not accepted, and continued the massacres. He even founded a Romanian newspaper in Brassó (Brasov), called Espatriatul, which tried to unite the two nations against the Habsburg empire: www.old.monitorulexpres.ro/?mod=monitorulexpres&p=actualitate&s_id=134965 www.uzprbrasov.ro/index.php?page=cronologia_presei_brasovene Kossuth, Bem and the Hungarian revolutionaries were so “oppressive” that they gave asylum to the Romanian revolutionaries from Vallachia, like Cezar bolliac and Nicolae Balcescu, who fled from the Ottoman and Russian invasion, when those empires crushed the revolution from their countries. Kossuth and Balcescu made an agreement to secure the rights of the Romanians of Transylvnaia, which resulted in the first nationality law in the history of the world in 28 July 1849.
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LONG LIVE THE SOLDIERS OF THE FREE WORLD,POLSKA,AND HUNGARIA!!
Polak Węgier dwa bratanki
I do szabli i do szklanki!
Long live Magyar orsag from Poland!
Bem is a true hero of two nations.
Lengyel testvér
The uniforms look fantastic
the attention to detail in those uniforms are incredible
actually a lot of them are wrong :d (im hungarian)
Magnificent! From a time when armies not only wore bright uniforms, but used different colors for different units. For the Austrians alone I see white for infantry and cuirassiers, green for uhlans (lancers), and blue for hussars.
After the defeat of the uprising in Poland, thousands of soldiers and officers with Józef Bem went to fight for the freedom of Hungary
Poland? It was a Great Russia.
@@igorjajic6898, Serbian Russ land??
What a hell is that?
You must be a racist bigot pig.
You and you type have no place in Europe, shame on you pig!!
@@igorjajic6898 romanian nation stand by you Serbia my brother any day vs austrohungayry! i doesnt care even is my destruction like a nation i prefer speking rusian not forced maghiarizarion like in our Romanian Transilvania!
God bless them
@@vyacheslavtomilchik5277 No, it was still Poland
A great number of these Hungarian officers fought for the union during the American Civil War.
Filth
@@johns2240 what?
During the american civil war all european powers thoughts were "how can this benefit me?"
We did not only fight in the Civil War, but also in the Revolutionary war.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Kovats_de_Fabriczy
Justice for Hungary!!!
Justice ? The habsburg rule Hungary because they don’t have a boy descent only girl and they married them to the habsburg cause if not the ottoman will came in and grab it far back then they are very terrified there army humourous And best in the world . The Austrians they didn’t do anything worst they done all the same whatever it was the Croat hungri or romanian they were being treat at the same level as germans. That why they rule peaceful for nearly 7-800 years others place in the world is crueler than that.remember that.
Islam fór Hungary
🇭🇺✌🌹✌🇭🇺Dicsőség a hazáért és a szabadságért elesett hősöknek!!!
Damn I wish that this was overdubbed in English and released in the West. The western world knows nothing of our history. Nothing is taught in the schools.
Europe different languages and different nationalities
I learned magyars invaded Europe and were defeated at Lechfeld and settled down in Hungary. Fought the Turks and won. Fought the Turks again and lost and were conquered. Austria came in and took Hungary from the Turks. Hungary fought the Austrians and lost (48) and latter came to an arrangement as Austria-Hungary. Gain its independence after it lost in WW1 and [lost] a lot of territory. Join Hitler and gained some territory back but lost to the Soviet Union in 45 and again in 56. Overthrew the communists in '89 (?) and is now like a rebel state in Europe.
@@jrt818 it sounds really depressing when you put it this way but it's still a massive redpill
@@jrt818 "rebel state of europe"
Orban knows the limits of his actions.
He's like teenager who pisses of his parents (germany, france) but knows where are the limits of his actions cause he don't want to be knicked out from the house (the union).
@Ambrus Kovács Jól összefoglalta, miért kell ekkora bunkónak lenni?
"Плохо ты брат мадьяров знаешь!"(Старый Сапёр Водичка)...
Хотел бы я выучить венгерский, а то нифига не понятно. Когда смотришь на английском, французском, немецком, испанском, итальянском, или каких то западнославянских языках, хоть что то ясно. А тут - как китайская грамота. Хотя, язык энергичный.
P.S. Без шапки - это Шандор Петефи?
да
0:04 is it Bem apó (in red cap)?
Yes
Yes my friend :)
Yes! Red doesn't always mean communist or leftist. Just think about the fact, that the Roman legioners wore also red clothing underneath their armor and a red robe, not to mention the British uniforms from the 18. th century. In this case it was simply the color of revolt against Habsburg Austria, and the newly risen Hungarian army(now separated from the Habsburg Austria's military) wanted to wear different uniforms than their old Austrian ones(which was mainly white upper clothing, with black hats and white or grey trousers...as you can see in the movie). The revolution came so fast, that the suddenly independent Hungarian Republic had hard times to organise equipment(weapons and uniforms), as the military industry was almost completely in the hands of Austria. This had not influenced the fact that Habsburg Austria was defeated and only the intervention of the Russian Empire saved them from the total collapse.
@@ottotot2097 I do not even understand why You thought I connect Bem red cap with comunism.
I must inform you that red colour of blood does not mean people and animals are communists in general!
What language did Bem actually use back then? Did he knew Hungarian?
I think he mostly spoke french or polish if they knew the language.
He learned a couple of words in Hungarian, for example in this very battle, he said to his retreating troops „Ne fuss magyar! Nincs híd, nincs haza.” (Don't run Hungarian! No bridge, no motherland - they had to hold the bridge over the river Sztrigy at all costs.) But usually he spoke in French or - quite badly - in German.
He spoke French. He used translators when giving orders. Petőfi, the Hungarian poet, was one of his translators.
Great video, but I have to correct you on some details from your description below the video.
1. Yes, many nationalities lived in Hungary during the time of the Hungarian revolution of 1848-49. But it was not always like this. Before the battle of Mohács of 1526, which brought the Ottoman occupation, Hungary had 80 % Hungarian population. The Muslim Ottomans massacred a huge part of the Hungarians, and took the others, and brought them to Anatolia and other places of their empire. Many Hungarians even were deported to Egypt, the descendants of them today being the Magyarabs in Egypt and Sudan. After the Ottomans practically emptied Hungary, in their place were brought by the Ottomans, than by the Austrians, who chased out the Ottomans, occupying themselves the country, Serbians, Romanians and other prople, who became the ancesters of those nationalities which rebelled in 1848, on Austrian money, although Hungary gave them the greatest nationality rights which were given to a nationality in the 19th century. These rights were fortified in the Nationality Law of 28 July 1849, the first ever nationality law in the world! Despite of this, half of the Romanians, the Croatians, the Serbians, the Transylvanian Saxons and a part of Slovaks rebelled against Hungary, because the Austrians promised them that they will give them Hungarian lands to start there their own states. Other nationalities like the Russins, the majority of the Slovaks, half of the Romanians, the majority of the Germans and the Jews supported the Hungarian government, and fought in the Hungarian army.
So only a half of the nationalities of Hungary helped the Austrians, the other half helped Hungary.
Look that Hungary issued his money in Hungarian-German, Slovak,-Serbo/Croatian-Romanian languages, which show that these nationalities had unprecedented rights in Europe: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Kossuth_bank%C3%B3.jpg/1200px-Kossuth_bank%C3%B3.jpg
2. About how the war started. In 15th of March 1848, the Hungarians made a peaceful revolution in Budapest led by the Hungarian national poet, Sándor Petőfi, and Lajos Kossuth went to Vienna, which was that time in revolution, and made the emperor to accept the Hungarian demands of autonomy of the country. The emperor sweared on the Hungarian constitution, which ment that he recognised the Hungarian autonomy. Yes, many revolutions were in the empire at that time: Vienna, Italy, Prague. But in the summer of 1848, after the battle of Custozza, the Austrians put down all these revolutions, and decided to attack Hungary. So they started to incite the nationalities from Hungary to rebell against the Hungarians, than in 11 September 1848, Jelacic the Croatian ban, attacked Hungary. The Hungarian government resigned, because the emperor broke his word and swear on the Hungarian constitution, and declared the Hungarian government illegal. So started the war between Hungary and Austria and his nationality allies from Hungary.
SO NOT THE HUNGARIANS ATTACKED AUSTRIA, AS YOU SAY, BUT THE AUSTRIANS DID THAT.
Than the Austrian troops, helped by the Croatian troops of Jelacic, invaded Hungary in 5 December 1848. They occupied Budapest in 5th January 1849, while the Serbians occupied Southern Hungary, the Austrians led by Anton Puchner together with Romanian and Saxon troops, joined in February 1849 by 8 000 Russians, Transylvania, the Austrian troops of Franz Schlik Northern Hungary, taking over the majority of the Hungarian territory. But starting with March 1849, the Hungarian army defeated heavily these enemies in all fronts (after the victory of Józef Bem at Nagyszeben in 11 March against the Russo-Austrian troops- about which battle this very movie, which you uploaded here talks - and the decissive victory of Artúr Görgey against the main Austrian troops of Alfred Windischgraetz at Isaszeg at 6th April), and liberated almost all Hungary, except som minor territories near the borders. At 14th April 1849 Hungary declared its total independence, and in 21th May liberated the castle of Buda after a long siege, from the Austrian troops.
The Austrians were now affraid to loose their capital, Vienna, and demanded a huge Russian support from tzar Nicholas I. The new Austrian emperor went to Warshaw, than in Russian hands, and kissed the hands of Nicholas to thank his help to crush Hungary. So 200 000 Russians, together with 170 000 Austrians, and around 50 000 nationality troops attacked Hungary. The mission of defeating this 420 000 strong invasion army was in the hands of 165 000 Hungarian troops, which were very ill armed, and had lack of ammunitions. Of course it was impossible to do this. But despite of this, the Hungarian troops won several great victories against this huge army, like at 2nd July at Komárom, 15-17th July at Vác, 14th July at Kishegyes or 2-3 August 1849 at Komárom. But of course the conclusion could not be other than defeat. So at 13th August 1849, the main Hungarian troops led by Artúr Görgei put down their weapons infront of the Russian troops at Világos. But the last resistance stopped only at 2nd October with the surrender of Komárom.
so basically it was a hungrarian civil war?
Oh, thank you very much for your comments. I have a deep interest and interest in Eastern European history, but in our country Eastern European history has less academic understanding than Western European history. So it's hard to get information. I usually have to rely on English encyclopedias, but I don't know what's true and what's not true.
Vincent Celeste Well it is hard to say what it was. We hungarians call it freedom war, war for liberation from the Habsburg rule (szabadsagharc). In my oppinion it was like the American revolution agaoinat the English rule led by George Washington.
Splendid Thank you very much for your interest in our history. Yes its very hard to know from outside what it really happened. Even for us, the Hungarians is hard, because, for example today too, the majority of the historical documents from that war, are in Vienna, and many of them were not released to the historians. From many of the major battles we have only the contemporary Austrians descriptions, and these, of course represent only their point of view. The Hungarians, who fought war for life and death, had no time to describe the battles and other events, right after they happened, than after the defeat of the revolution the interdicted for many decades to Hungarians to research these, and during this times the participants died out. But, of cpurse, we, Hungarians know better what happened in those time, because we have great historians who research that. And I can say also, that they are more objective than those of our neighbouring countries. The latters try every time to present the common history and wars with Hungarians, like their nation was like an angel, did nothing wrong, while the Hungarians were devils. In their oppinion Hungary oppressed them, killed them and so on, while they are very quiet about what the nationality allies of the Austrians did against the Hungarian civil population, their massacres against the unarmed Hungarian women, children and men, only because they were Hungarians. And they are also quiet, when we show them the Kossuth bancnotes or talk about the first minority legislation in the world from july 1849, as a proof that they lie when they talk about oppression. Maybe they had not the same rights as the Hungarians, but certainly they had more rights than any nationality in the world in those times. On the other hand Hungarian historians are not one sided, like the Croatian, Romanian, Serbian or Slovak historians (who have the guts to represent the movements of their nations in 1848, as revolutions, while they fought for the Habsburg empire against the Hungarian revolution - so to fight against a revolution is not a revolution is not a revolution, but a counter revolution) because they point out also the faults of the Hungarians against these people, that they commited cruelty acts ans sometimes massacres against Romanians or Serbians, as a response to their massacres, amd that at the beginning, they were reluctant to give them every right that they wanted. The Romanian and Slavik historians only talk about this, but are quiet about tge rights they received some months later, which rights their ancesters (of course not all but half of them) rejected, and joined th Austrian empire.
I am happy to talk with the Hungarian people about this history now. I feel as much pleasure as finding a treasure when I find movies about Hungarian history and the history of the Balkans.
Turkey and Hungary 🇹👍🇭 the Ottoman empire supported the Hungarians
Because of interest,not because of some love for Hungarians,so stop with acting.
They were invaded Hungary for 150 years, destroyed the heritage of the Hungarian medieval age, but sometimes anyway they helped, yes. If their interest seeked that...
Виндишгрец и прочие паны генералы утром спозаранку войну начинали...
Somehow I'm reminded of the opening song to "F Troop".... turned a retreat into victory.
OH.... WHY DO SO MANY MEN HAVE TO DIE IN WAR
It is not even a war it a revolt against the Hasburg
What is the name of this movie?
Föltámadott a tenger (1953)
@@malac8860 thanks
Maďari si chceli vydobiť väčšiu samostatnosť a zrovnoprávnenie s Rakúskymi krajinami ale na svojom území- Uhorsko voči iným národom uplatňovali tvrdú ruku
And three years later............ The same thing happened
0:45 looks nasty
a végső zene egyébként Petőfi: föl támadott a tenger c. műve, ezt érdemes a music mellé odaírni!
Uungarischäh Gulaschsuuppääh ässen mit Ässbästäck oder soooo....
Nice Austrian cuirassier!
But not battle effective this time
Can you share the link of this film? Great video!
Could this movie be considered an epic?
Ну хоть в одном кино показали как кавалерию на картечь могли навести. А то вряд-ли они просто так скакали на пушки, а тут лошары думали мол щас лопухов изрубим в капусту и облом.
You'd really think, given their historical penchant for it, that their nationalist propaganda would be slightly less crude and beat you over the head-blatant. Frankly, the only people to come out of this looking good are the costumers - who did an absolutely amazing job.
The infantry with cannons at their backs are praying the artillery peasants don't accidentally drop their torches near the powder hole
nagyon örülök neki hogy nem csak feltetted, de feliratiztad is! viszont 1 hiba van az angol résznél, amikor bem azt mondja, hogy fúvasson takarodót, akkor nem alarm, ami riadót jelent, mert támadásnál mondják ezt! A takarodó a visszavonulást jelenti, ami angolul fall back! kérlek javítsátok ki ha van rá lehetőség!
valamint úgy láttam van igény az első rész feliratozására is! kérlek ha van rá időtök tegyétek meg!
Cannister and none of the horse dead
Hmmm....... This is NOT mount and blade
이런 고전영화들은 어디서 가져오는 겁니깤ㅋㄲㄱㅋ
M'r Lee 이거?! 구글에 'historical film of 국명'라고 치면 다나와!
English
Cuando veo esta película de Hungria, ganan la guerra; cuando veo la película desde su contendedor, los húngaros pierden la guerra.
Looks like Stratego the movie.
I love when the captions say "ATAACK" instead of "ATTACK". 😅
But that doesnt matter cause the film is epic ❤
Empire of childrena had charge in western childrena flag of tickle torture of eteled.
Венеры вспоминают про то как проиграли свою революцию?
Диоген Полигонщик
Только русские готовы умирать не за свободу а за право быть рабами.
Диоген Полигонщик. А сейчас в моде фильмы, в которых восхваляются поражения: "Перл - Харбор", "Дюнкерк", недавний янкише фильм про их "героическую" высадку во Франции в 44-ом...
@@georgipetrov4227 А уж как сейчас венгры "свободны" под Гейросоюзом и НАТО... О том как они умирали за австрияков с 1526 по 1918(с короткими перерывами при Бетлене, Текели, Ракоци и Кошуте) и за Гитлера в 1941-45, умолчим...
A good old movie was made during the communist dictatorship. This explains the text at the end that Bem says that this is real internationalism and a world revolution. Ridiculous. There was no question of such a thing regardless of the fact that the sons of many peoples fought in the Hungarian army, some for personal reasons and others because of their antipathy towards the Habsburg Empire.
Az 1848 -as forradalmaknak nagy helye van a világtörténelemben, azonban a magyarok függetlenségigénye az Osztrák Birodalomtól szabadságharc lett, és Ferenc József osztrák császár Magyarország császára lett, bár a magyarok megnyerték a háborút.
"A bécsi légió kerüljön az ellenség hátába, aztán elébük és reája." :D Nem tudom ki írta ezt a szöveget, de akkora marhaság,, pont amilyennek hangzik :D
Any of these poor, ignorant foot soldiers could've fought just as bravely for the other side and would not have known what they were fighting for, or against. That is the way of war.
这就是全亚洲最大首屈一指的奢侈Night club，顶级超豪华的CHROMA夜店
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¡¡ los hijos de Atila !!
those wild and crazy hungarians lol
against which Nation was the Hungarian revolution?
The Habsburg Empire, of which it was an autonomous part
@Outcast of The Blue Fire Nation of Outlandia The Habsburg Empire did have more men on the Italian front, and even the Hungarian parlament was unsure about the dethronization, but of course the Russian intervention decided the end of the war
Great!
Anyone know the name of the movie?
Föltámadott a tenger
Interesting that this patriotic film was released just three years before the Russian crackdown. Anyone have a link to Hungarian DVD suppliers?
Doug's Soldiers
Hungarian revolution in 19c. was endid by invasion of Russian empire. Same in 1956. Shame on Orban for dealung with the enemy of Civilization.
@@georgipetrov4227 How about hungarian invasion in 1941? And now compare numbers of victims of 1848+1956 vs 1941. And shut up, proponent of civilisation.
@@georgipetrov4227 Whom do you call an enemy of Civilization?
@@oldadmiral Hungarian "invasion" in 1941? Lol
@@felegyhazifilmklub en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary_in_World_War_II
See Part "Invasion of the Soviet Union"
What a fucking irony
Movie made in 1953
And in 1956 they revolted again
Non ho capito un cazzo
Può sempre imparare in ungherese, come io ho imparato l'italiano.
:))))))
Як фільм називається?
Море восстало
Are this contain some communistic propaganda? Talking about internaionalism
6:11
Not sure of the impact on Hungary, but communists were quite involved in other 1848 Revolutions.
No they fought for free world read the songs from our writer Sándor Petőfi
00:49 기병 잡는 쉬운 방법
Kochany Bem, zanim przegrał spuścił Austriakom takie knoty że popij wodą...😀
the film lies. This war was not for the interests of Hungarian nationality. It is typical that the film was made in 1953 under the Communist dictatorship.
Are you saying that this film was made under socialist system and that the value of the film was not made because it was made in the age of communism?
Is the movie made in the country under the Communist Party unconditionally worthless? So, what do you think about 'war and peace'( 1966-67 )?
In the film is some communist propaganda, like in the end, 6:17 when Genaral bem said, looking to the soldiers marching: "This is a real internationalism", and Petőfi replyed: "The soldiers of world freedom". But Petőfi (who in film is played by a 50 years old actor, while in reality he had only 26 years), in his poems really wrote about world freedom, like in his poem Egy gondolat bánt engemet (A taught hurts me).
Other untruth propaganda is when Puchner the Austrian general, in the battle of Piski sais: "Lets let the Romanian insurgents to attack", and the Orthodox Romanian archbishop (Andrei Saguna) says: "But Avram Iancu (the leader of Romanians) will not fight against Bem", while in reality the Romanian insurgents participated in that battle against the Hungarians, and Avram Iancu led his troops to kill 10 000 Hungarian civilians in the most barbarian ways possible. For example his troops tortured and killed the sister of the great Hungarian writer, Imre Madách (writer of the drama The Human Tragedy, recognized as one of the greatest plays in dramaturgy), her 15 years old son and her husband, by throwing them infront of famished pigs, which eat them alive. Avram Iancu indeed did not fought Bem, because he had no courage in doing this in open fields, only among his mountains, where Bem did not entered, although he planned to do that, but the Russian intervention forced him to fight against the Russians. So the movie tries to present the Romanians of Avram Iancu in a positive way, as fighters for freedom, who sympathised with the Hungarians, but in reality they were the helpers of the Austrian troops, causing damages to them and the Hungarian population, every place where they could.
Another communist intervention in the movie is when they show the battle of Nagyszeben (in the final part of the movie), Bem's greatest victory, they do not use Russian soldiers, although the majority of the enemy army was the Russian intervention troops led by Igor Skaryatin. But the makers of the movie fearing that the Soviets who ruled Hungary in those times, will be angered of this, so they showed only Austrian soldiers.
Yes we can find Communist propaganda and distortion of the historical truth in the film, but at least we have a historical movie here, while today Hungary does not make any real historical movies... And of course we cannot expect from a movie to present 100 % historical truth... The movie is considered art (but the truth is that its more political or social propaganda than art, as they are todays Hollywood movies too), so they can distort history. So its better to have a movie with errors, than have nothing.
Magaa háború voltmagyar nemzetiség ellenes. Céljai egészen mások voltakmint ahogy az ma a közt8udatban él. A kortársak sem látták, és azóta is rejtve van az igazi cél. Ennek kifejtése itt ezen a helyen hát hogy is mondjam , ninc skevem hozzá, de az biztos hogy nem volt egyszerű rájönni. Tessék figyelni a rákövetkező korszakot úgy 1867 és 1914 között. Ott a megfejtés.
szalard world freedom but didn't want freedom for the minorities
Classic
Name 1997 Read my dispute here with Johny Jergovich, to see that this accusation is a big lie. I do not want to repeat all what I wtote here before. So before you comment first read the comments. This accusation that the the Hungarians behave badly with the nationalities is a huge lie. In the matter of fact todays Romania, Slovakia or Ukrain does not give so many rights to todays Hungarian minorities, as Hungary gave to the Serbians, Romanians, Croatians or Slovaks in 1849.
Always support from Poland ! but my country is under ocupation
Your brain is under occupation!!! Idioto!
@@bodziokrakowski5613 Poliniak 100% brawo poliniaku wykazales sie erudycją
How many Hungarian generals did the Austrians execute?
13 + the prime minister Batthyány.
@@istvancsiszer8229 Did you have 13 generals?
"В каждой избушке,свои погремушки!"........
why would slovaks fight for those dirty people
cheesey or what
4:3/48 пехота пошла! Пехота пошла!
Русские тогда венграм навешали, так что нехрен тут врать ))))
Так тут не русские а австрияки, форма то белая. А Паскевич в Венгрии вообще баталий не устраивал, одними маневрами так Гергея загонял, что тот сдался...
@@АлександрНикольский-ы5ы да я не доконца смотрел, увидел начало и решил, что венгры понтуются мол русских разбили )))
Az oroszok a mai napig agresszorok!!
Hungarian revolution against who? Austria? I presume this was made by the communist govt. Weird the communists never made a movie about the uprising against the Soviet occupation.
Weird?...XD...clearly, you have never lived in a Soviet occupied communist country, man! In that case, you'd know that any director, writer would have never had their movie published, if not destroyed and him/herself landing in prison or even to the gulag in Siberia. Communism was not the pink fluffy unicorn world that some idiot leftist try to make it look like, to the ppl in the West, today. It was tyranny, a grey world with no freedom of speak(at all in the public) or making art any different direction than the ideology allowed. Only "allowed" art was existing and even that controlled by censors. It's like you'd ask: Why no nazi state supported German directors, film makers in Germany were making films in the 1930's-40's, showing the evil nature of Hitler? There wasn't rly an option like that....XD
1848 nem magyar forradalom volt. Tessék elkezdeni ezt a gondolatot ízlelgetni és lassan lassan értelmezni. Úgy vagy 170 évvel később már érdemes lenne megérteni
A magyarok kihasználták az európai eseményeket amik 1848 elején kezdődtek. Hogy kinek az érdeke (természetesen a háttérhatalomé) volt mindez, az mindegy. De ne feledjük el, hogy abban a pillanatban Magyarország Habsburg elnyomás alatt állt, akik megtömték Magyarországot románokkal, szerbekkel, németekkel, ezáltal megteremtve Trianon okait, és mindent megtettek azért, hogy ezek a nemzetiségek a magyarokat gyűlöljék, felhasználva őket a magyar szabadságküzdelmek ellen, arra biztatva őket, hogy hátbaszúrják a magyarokat, ahányszor ők felkelni próbáltak.
Nem az osztrákok nevelték fel, küldték Rómába és nyugatra tanulni azon románokat, akik megalapították az Erdélyi iskolának nevezett román nacionalista egyletet, akik fennen kezdték hírdetni a dákó-román elméletet, és hogy ennek okán ők Erdély urai és nem a magyarok, megteremtve ezzel az Avram Iancu féle mészárlások ideológiai okait? Ugyanúgy segítették a szerb, szlovák vagy horvát nacionalizmus és magyargyűlölet megerősödését.
A forradalom előtt nem az osztrákok küldték a Magyarországon szerveződött magyar származású bakákból és huszárokból álló ezredeket a birodalom más tartományaiba, és tömték meg Magyarországot idegen katonasággal, és adtak fegyvert a románok, szerbek és horvátok kezébe, határőrezredekké szervezve őket? Miközben a magyar katonákat mind külföldre küldték, addig minden román, szerb vagy horvát katonát Magyarországon hagytak, hogy sakkban tartsák a magyarokat. Mi baj történhetett volna ebből ugyebár? "Csupán "néhány magyarellenes népirtás, és a magyarok hátbatámadása, és az osztrákokkal való szövetkezésük...
Ennyire "becsületesek" voltak az osztrákok...
Vajon a Horea által 1783-84-ben elkövetett magyarellenes mészárlások nem az osztrák felbújtásnak köszönhetők? Vajon Avram Iancu, Knicanin, Hurban, vagy Jellasics nem az osztrákokat segítették a magyarok ellen? És ez véletlen lenne? Jól tudjuk, hogy nem az...
Mindez nem adott okot, hogy a magyarok kihasználják az 1848-as forradalmakat, hogy elérhessék legalább az önrendelkezésüket a birodalmon belül, a magyar katonaság hazahívását és a külföldi elküldését, hogy megvédhessék a hazájukat? Mindegy, hogy ki indította el a párizsi forradalmat, a magyarok jórészt azonban a saját nemzeti érdekeiket követték, hogy megszabaduljanak a Magyarországot elsorvasztó Habsburg hatalomtól, hogy a kezükbe vehessék végre a sorsukat. Sajnos az orosz intervenció miatt ez nem sikerült...
Kossuthék ennek ellenére a végsőkig kitartottak a magyar királyság intézménye mellett, még az osztrák támadás után is, csupán az 1849 március 4-i oktrojált alkotmány bécsi kikiáltása után, amikor is Ferenc Jóska eltörölte Magyarországot, akkor határozták el a trónfosztást... Tehát ha annyira libsi forradalom lett volna, akkor Kossuthék miért nem kikáltották ki már 1848 március 15-én a köztársaságot? Miért vált páriává a forradalmat követő hónapokban Petőfi azért mert a királyság ellen agitált? Jó lenne ezen elgondolkodni...
most mennem kell de azért súgok valamit. -----Kossuth bankó története.---- Kezd el utána nézni. Kossuth-ék és bandája, nem voltak valójában a Habsburgok ellenségei,hanem valójában együtműködő cinkosai. Az igyazi ellenség a magyar lakosság volt. A magyar népi kultúra és történelmi öntudat. Aháborúnak gazdasági okai voltak. A többi csak dísz és mese.Sajnos most mennem kell. Egyébként is mindek meséljekelmindent. Úgy szép ha magadtól jösz rá.
Még egyszer olvasd el, amit írtam.
És szerinted miben segített a magyar népi kultúrán a Habsburg uralom, azonkívül, hogy megtömték az országot idegenekkel és a magyarok ellen izgatták őket, megteremtve ezzel a Trianon okait?
Olvasd el a 12 pontot, és rájössz, hogy igenis a magyarságért volt a forradalom.
Pont az, hogy nem volt trónfosztás március 15-én, és nem kiáltották ki a köztársaságot, mutatja, hogy Kossuthék számára fontos volt a történelmi öntudat.
Hogy ők is részben, a háttérhatalom által szervezett megosztó és romboló ideológia hatása alatt álltak, az más tészta. Ők valóban hitték azt, hogy az a népüket szolgálja. A nemesi előjogok eltörlése a jobbágyoknak való földosztás, meg egyebek... Most tudjuk, hogy ez rézse volt Magyarország lerombolásának. Azok, akik nekik ezeket tanították, nem mondták azt, hogy ezzel az céljuk, hogy kivegyék a magyarok kezéből az ország földjét. Máskülönben is lehetetlen lett volna, hogy Magyarország megmaradt volna feudális államnak, miközben az egész világ már nem volt az...
A téves ideológiájuk ellenére, a magyar forradalmárok szerették Magyarországot és népét, és őszintén azt hitték, hogy ez mentheti meg az országot. Olvasd csak el Petőfi verseit, aki a királyokat, a nemeseket, a papokat szidja, a világszabadságról beszél, de amikor a hazájáról, a magyar történelemről ír verseket, igazi hazaszeretet árad belőlük. Olvasd el az Élet vagy halál című versét, vagy a Magyar vagyok címűt. A népi kultúra ellen lett volna? Ő volt a legnépiesebb költő! Ő írta a János vitézt! Ő írt több száz népies verset!
Nem volt ő a magyar nép meg a kultúrája ellen. Csak elhülyítették a szabadkőműves francia forradalom eszméi. Ebben valóban tévedett. De nem azért, mert valamilyen sötét összeeskűvés részese lett volna, hanem csak azért mert fiatal és naiv volt. Sajnos ez az igazság.
De a magyar forradalmároknak részben igazuk volt. A Habsburg uralom tarthatatlan volt, ha nem akarták, hogy Magyarországról eltűnjön az utolsó magyar is. Az amit a Habsburgok csináltak akkor, pont az volt, amit az EU tesz a migránsokkal Európa ellen. Tehát a forradalomra és szabadságharcra szükség volt.
Te egy színtiszta elmebeteg vagy. 1848 egy európai forradalom részeként kezdődött, de aztán magyar függetlenségi harc lett belőle.
@@szalard Kovács Péter te szélhámos homár te
Što ne pokažete kako je general Mor Percel, bežao od srpskih graničara šajkaša kod Mošorina i Vilova aprila 1849.
Percel je streljao zarobljene serviane na vise mesta..Znaci dobijao je bitke...
The revolution was crushed by Croatian Viceroy Josip Jelacic
You mean the croatian government asked for greater independance from Hungary wich was granted, then Jelacic on the orders of Wien decided to attack hungary anyway, the habsburgs supplied his army then Josip jelacic got defeated at Pákozd and then he fought by the side of Windisch gratz and took Buda And Pest with him, then he and good old winidisch got defeated again in the spring campaign, then the habsburgs called in the russians to the war and the hungarians surrendered to the russians, to the russians not jelacic. No offense, i might add i think croatia is a good neighbour and i support croatian independance.
@Hungary #1 just opposite my friend.
@Hungary #1 which ones in particular?
@Hungary #1 you for real?
Jelačić ran like a rabbit. He didn't stop until Schönbrunn, when met rhe first armed forces. He was brave only against civilians.
Hungarians burned my home town to the ground in 1848 during so called "revolution". Thousends died, for them making a deal to split country up to Austro-Hungaria.
That lead to internal conflicts in the country, Hungarians becoming more and more opresive against other nations in it.
One of the causes of WW1 was Hasburgs trying to give way to Hungarian pretensions in southern Europe, not that thay didnt had the same aspirations.
>Hungarians becoming more and more opresive against other nations in it.
Sure. Learning the language of your country is utterly oppressive ? And what came after them was any better ?
@@charlesisland1895learning?they banned all other languages you nutcase
@@charlesisland1895 yes, exterminating other languages is oppressive. And what came after them was absolutely ahead. I.e. Czechoslovakia was modern, democratic state. With i.e. women having right to vote since the beginning. Hungary remained utterly aggressive totalitarian one.
Long live the Empire!
U mean the Big Hungary?
@@mateborda8684 No, Oësterreich.
AVRAM IANCU ,MIHAI VITEAZU L ,cu cine ne luptam acum ?
???
Jankó Ábrahám was a bandit, as the movie says: he never fought against armed forces, his greatest bravery was robbing and killing civilians, burning schools, churches and libraries. Later he got his punishment from God: died alone, lost his mind, just roaming in the mountains and trying to play daconazi songs on his flute...
@@istvancsiszer8229 false.
He never ordered any massacre.
The massacres were carried out by romanian peasants by their own initiative(mostly for avenging the previous massacres made by hungarians, or for simple banditism), while Avram Iancu togheeter with Axente Sever and other leaders were involved in resisting in a guerilla war against hungarian militias and honveds, and survival of the romanian people during the civil war.
Minden vaolt ez csak nem magyar szabadságharc. Nincs ez a történelem még igaz módra megírva.
von Döbrögi Hat milyen szabadsagharc volt? Roman?
Are they fighting because they don't like the hats of the other side? The reasons for these European wars is that ridiculous. All the soldiers could change sides and they still wouldn't know what they are fighting for.
The heroes of 1848 were fighting to gain independence from the Austrians. They died for their country so take your shitty opinions elsewhere.
I laughed at this comment.
Hehe hehe! Peace bro! We'll it's not Bright side of our history, after all we fight together against turks and Austrian centralize and we have like 600 years of unity. Our nations suffer equly over history. And it's fuck up thing with nationalism and emotions hehehe. It was that time as it was. Brother bloodbath... Sad
I sead wath is true. Whay you think nobody else join they revolution?
Johny Jergovic This is not true! In the Hungarian revolutionary army particupated, alongside Hungarians. The German, the Viennese, the Italian and the Polish legion fought for Hungary, many of the Generals were Polish (Jozef Bem, Henrik Dembinski, Jozef Wisocki), Serbian (Janos Damjanich), German (Karl Leiningen Westerburg, Georg Lahner), and even English (Richard Guyon). Half of the Romanians, the Majority of the Slovakians, all the Ruthens, the majority of the Germans from Hungary also fought in the Hungarian army against the Habsburgs and Romanov emperors, whos ally was Jelacic. One of the Hungarian generals was even a Croatian, named Karl Knezich, and died, being executed by the Austrian general Julius von Haynau. So instead of writing here lies, please read some history...
A lot of other country wanted to help but those french fries are told them to not help
Well at begining there was this romantic revolutionary feling that the fight for the right couse but soon and going to the end of war they more and more realase that they fight for hungary exspansion and wrong cose. By time, serbs, croats, slovakians, rumunians and other entitetes fight firlese battles ageinst no hungary people but against despot goverment in budapest! In the word is this romantic wieu on this revolution but for as little nations it was strugle for survive! History is not childrenbook. Sorry for response but we must be critical and objectiv about history. There”s no black white story here.
Johny Jergovic
"Sorry for response but we must be critical and objectiv about history."
Well, you should start this with yourself.
I brought here many proofs that the Hungarian government was not "despotic" as you try to demonstrate. Nowhere in the world at that moment a government was ready to give such huge rights to the nationalities, as Hungary. Even gave promise to give full autonomy to Croatia. The Hungarian money had inscriptions in the nationalities languages. Show me today one country in the world which gives these rights to the minorities!
This is not romanticism, this is the truth! I gave you that article, I gave you the photos of Kossuth's money as proofs.
Today the Romanian, Slovak or Ukrainian government refuse from the Hungarians even a crumb of the rights which the Hungarian government offered to the nationalities.
So what are you talking about man?
Johny Jergovic
I will not start to say lies about my nation, smearing it, in order to please you...
Soo if i understood!? Only hungarian side of history is right and we all other nationality are wrong and have drunken idiots ho write history??? Its call revision of history! Sorry dude i will put my side on serbian, croatian, slovakian and god knows wich nacionalty seriuse historianas! 😂😂😂😂 Im have it enaf!!
Mr. Jergovic, this is the truth! How can you call the good people those who allied themselves with the Habsburg emperors, who oppressed them, against the Hungarians who wanted their freedom, and promised autonomy and gave rights to the nationalities, which today too can be considered very democratic (like I showed in my comments to your former comments)? How can you call those nationality leaders who allied themselves with the most oppressive empires of those times (the Habsburgs and the Russians) against a nation which fought for freedom, rejecting the Hungarians friendly approach, promises of autonomy, and some of them (the Romanians and the Serbians) making massacres against the Hungarian population, the good guys? This is not one sided story. This is the truth. You cannot make a truth of your own...
Besides this movie has nothing about Croatians. So why do you comment here?
You seem that you hate Hungarians, who in your freedom war against the Serbians in the 1990s, helped you soo much, gave you weapons, helping you to become independent... You seem to be different from the majority of the Croatians who are thankful for the Hungarian help...
And do not forget our common history, our common fights against the Ottoman invasion neither.
@Alexandru Muscas Say those who still learn in the school the lies invented by the Communist historians of Ceausescu. Even some of your historians who think normally, like Lucian Boia, recognize that your official history is nothing else than nationalist propaganda.
@Alexandru Muscas I bet you have no guts to go to Boia and tell this lie on his face. You just comment and accuse him of being payed by the Hungarians from the safety of your youtube account. Like all your racist Romanian comrades.
@Alexandru Muscas Lets see. Lets not question the credibility of your source. I have no time to research if this was only invented by you or some of the nationalist Romanian journals. Lets assume that these lines were really written down. An did you asked, if its true what you say, why did some Hungarian newspapers wrote such things about Romanians? Did you?
Lets look on the events.
1848.10.12. Kisenyed (Sângătin) - Romanian peasants massacred 140 Hungarian civilians,
1848.10.14-18. Magyarigen (Ighiu) - Romanian peasants massacred 176 Hungarian families (if we take a family as 4 people, the minimum for those times that means 704 people),
Between 12-20 October there were Romanian massacres against Hungarian civilians in the following localities: Asszonynépe (Asinip), Boklya (Bochia), Borosbocsárd (Bucerdea Vinoasa), Bugyfalva (Budesti), Csáklya (Cetea), Forrószeg (Forosig), Mikesásza (Micasasa), Zám (Zam), in total several thousands of Hungarians being killed.
Around 20 October 1848, there were attrocities in:
Around Balázsfalva (Blaj) - around 400 Hungarians,
Alvinc (Vintu de Jos) - 2 Hungarians,
Around Sárd (Sard) - 300 Hungarians,
Algyógy (Geoagiu) - 85 Hungarians,
1848.10.21. Gyulafehérvár (Alba Iulia) - Romanians kill 42 Hungarian inhabitants of the city,
1848.10.23-24. Zalatna (Zlatna) - Ompolygyepű (Presaca Ampoiului) - Romanians kill 700 Hungarian civilians (women, children alike) in the most barbaric way.
And the massacres continued until August 1849, killing women, children, old men alike.
Here is a good documentary about these massacres. th-cam.com/video/7qXmve7pp7w/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=EPSfilm
Here are some contemporary depictions of the terrible atrocities and massacres against the Hungarians:
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But you ask yourself why Kossuth’s newspaper wrote those?
BECAUSE OF THESE MASSACRES! Is this not enough cause for you? After so many Hungarian women, children and unarmed men killed, you ask yourself, why Kossuth’s newspaper wrote this?
Here is a Romanian historian, who cannot be named a friend of the Hungarians, Marius Diaconescu, who, although in a little biased way, which try to favourize the Romanians (he attacking in many of his writings the Hungarians, being one of the most nationalistic, we can say Hungarian-hater Romanian historians of today), recognize the Romanian atrocities against the Hungarians: “Românii nu au fost doar victime. Au fost la rândul lor călăi. Şi noi, românii, am ucis, am jefuit, am incendiat şi am violat. Mai mult sau mai puţin decât ungurii? În astfel de cazuri orice statistică sau evaluare cantitativă este fără sens. Documentele nu fac statistici, dar cantitatea poate fi exprimată printr-un singur cuvânt: mult.”www.historia.ro/sectiune/general/articol/avram-iancu-si-contra-revolutia-romaneasca-din-transilvania-in-1848-1849
He recognizes in the same article, that the real revolutionaries were the Hungarians, while Avram Iancu became the ally or the servant of the conunter-revolutionary Habsburg forces, which wanted to crush the Hungarian revolution: (“Dintr-o perspectivă globală, de ansamblu, românii au făcut contrarevoluţie, deoarece au fost instrumentul vechii guvernări absolutiste austriece împotriva revoluţiei maghiare. Folosindu-se de sentimentele de antipatie dintre români şi maghiari, austriecii, după ce au pierdut puterea în Transilvania în favoarea ungurilor, i-au manipulat pe români şi i-au folosit ca armată de gherilă împotriva ungurilor.”). So even your nationalist historian, Marius Diaconescu contradicts your claim that the Hungarian revolution was not a revolution, while the Romanians made the revolution.
So you come here with a book written, in 1851 by an American historian. Great job, man! Did you ask yourself if this guy was payed by the Habsburg Empire to denigrate the Hungarian revolution, which was very popular among the Americans and western Europeans in those times. Kossuth, when he went to America, he was celebrated like a hero, spoke in the American senate. And when Haynau, the Austrian general, who, with Russian help, crushed the Hungarian revolution, and executed more than 100 Hungarian generals and revolutionaries, was chased and beaten on the street, by the people of London, Bruxelles and Paris who sympathised with the Hungarian revolution, when he went there in visit. Of course the Habsburgs wanted to denigrate him in every way, so they payed some historians from America and different Western European countries to write these lies about Kossuth and the Hungarian revolution.
Lets see the truth here. Did you saw the money of the Hungarian revolution, the Kossuth bankó (Kossuth banknotes)? en.mandadb.hu/common/file-servlet/document/334969/default/doc_url/2008302114.JPG
The Hungarians and Kossuth were so “oppressive” towards the Romanians and the other nationalities, that they wrote in the languages of every one of those nationalities on the Hungarian money. the Romanian inscription is the Cyrillic inscription from the money, because then the Romanians used the Cyrillic alphabet. Yeah, Kossuth and the Hungarians were so “oppressive” that they wrote in the languages of the nationalities on the Hungarian money. I guess, in your great logic, that Romania today is oppressive towards the Hungarians, because it is no Hungarian inscription on Romanian money.
Lets see what rights the Hungarians had promised to the Romanians in in August-September 1848, so large that today the Hungarians from Transylvania have no such rights. Unfortunately this video doesn’t talks about these rights elaborated by the Union Committee of the Hungarian parliament, but the truth is, that huge rights were promised to the Romanians, as I will give the source below:
Lets see what rights promised the Hungarians to the Romanians, which the Romanians refused, and started instead to massacre the Hungarians:
a.it permitted the use of the Romanian language in primary and secondary schools and seminaries, moreover in church administration.
b.In villages of Romanian tongue and in the parishes, it recommended that the records should be both in Romanian and Hungarian, while it stipulated only Hungarian correspondence with other authorities.
c.In counties, seats and cities inhabited by Romanians it allowed speeches in Romanian at official councils, and assemblies.
d.In the language of command of the national guard, Romanian would be also used besides the Hungarian.
e.The acts and royal and ministerial decrees would be published in Romanian as well.
f.Official documents, requests, petitions written in Romanian would have to be accepted everywhere.
g.Even those Romanians could be elected in the county assemblies and commissions who could not speak the Hungarian language but only understood it.
h.Administrators of Romanian tongue paid by the state would be employed at the royal courts of justice for the free representation of the poor people of Romanian tongue.
i.the Romanians were to be employed in a “fair proportion” in every branch of public administration.
j.It promised that Transylvanian acts and laws prejudicial to Romanians would be repealed.
k.Concerning educational affairs, the bill promised that the Romanian tongued population would be taken into account at the establishment of public schools.
l.A department of Romanian philology and literature would be established at the university.
www.epa.uz.ua/00400/00463/00005/pdf/152_katus.pdf
So all of these weren’t enough for Avram Iancu and the other Romanian leaders to be peaceful, and not to massacre Hungarians. Today the Hungarians from Transylvania, which I am part of, have lesser rights than Kossuth promised to the Romanians in September 1848, and which weren’t enough for them.
a.We do not have the right that in Hungarian villages the records have to be made only in Romanian.
b.The language of the police, gendarmes and troops in the regions inhabited by the Hungarians in Transylvania, are only in Romanian,
c.The official decrees of the towns, counties, ministries and state are only in Romanian,
d.Official documents, decrees, petitions are only in Romanian,
e.Those Hungarians who cannot speak Romanian, cannot be elected in county assemblies and commissions or any other official place.
f.In the Hungarian majority counties in the public administration or state institutions or companies, as well as in police, courts, gendarmeries, prefectures the Romanians are represented in 70-80 %, while 70-80 % of the population of the counties are Hungarians.
www.neuerweg.ro/singura-etnie-privilegiata-in-tinutul-secuiesc-sunt-romanii/
g. And on Romanian money you cannot see any Hungarian inscription...
Today the Hungarians from Transylvania have far less rights than the Romanians of Avram Iancu... But the Romanians allied with the Habsburgs, and between October 1848 and January 1849 massacred thousands from the Hungarian population mainly from Southern Transylvania.
Lets take it in this way: in 1848, when there was no international legislation in favour of minorities, and the majority of the countries were very oppressive with their nationalities, trying to assimilate, or exterminate them in every way, in Hungary you had Romanian inscriptions on your language, and nationality laws.
And Józef Bem did not massacred the Romanians (this was done in several cases, as a response to the Romanian massacres aforementioned by Hungarian paramilitary groups, to which Bem commanded to stop the massacres), furthermore, he called them many many times to stop the anti-Hungarian attacks, promising them to be not punished by the Hungarian authorities for their crimes. Unfortunately they did not accepted, and continued the massacres. He even founded a Romanian newspaper in Brassó (Brasov), called Espatriatul, which tried to unite the two nations against the Habsburg empire: www.old.monitorulexpres.ro/?mod=monitorulexpres&p=actualitate&s_id=134965
www.uzprbrasov.ro/index.php?page=cronologia_presei_brasovene
Kossuth, Bem and the Hungarian revolutionaries were so “oppressive” that they gave asylum to the Romanian revolutionaries from Vallachia, like Cezar bolliac and Nicolae Balcescu, who fled from the Ottoman and Russian invasion, when those empires crushed the revolution from their countries. Kossuth and Balcescu made an agreement to secure the rights of the Romanians of Transylvnaia, which resulted in the first nationality law in the history of the world in 28 July 1849.