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Slovak uprising happened only in Western Slovakia, most of Slovaks fought on the side of the Revolution. You forget that too: Around 40% of the private soldiers in the Hungarian Revolutionary Volunteer Army consisted of ethnic minorities of the country.[5]
Fatherland? Only a fool can call the land Father. It's motherland. It's "szülőföld" = birthing place / anyaföld = female. U throw in the seeds and it takes care of them. By the way most of the Hungarian words have 2 meanings at least: szülő = parent the person who is giving birth = mother. Sun = father (Sol Iustitiae) = male, Moon = female (Hold = mirror of the truth = Holy Mary) also Hónap (Holdnap = 28 days which is also the cycle of a woman approx) Esztendő (year) = Istenidő (God's time) and there is much much more :D - 'cos it's a very ancient language.
Yes! And the many Poles who fought with us in 1848 are always in our hearts and we consider them Hungarian, in fact more Hungarian than even Hungarians because they gave their lives for this land even though some of them did not even speak our language. Greetings to Polish brothers from Hungary.
Thanks for a video about Hungarian history, and also for the attention for details! Keep it up! Not even in scholarly literature have I seen such a detailed description of troop movemnents; and the political contexts is also well briefed. You could check the pronunciation of Hungarian and Croatian names. :) The 51K vs 17K might be inflated, possibly you counted all personel (even Roth division) for Croatia and only the directly involved troops for Hungary. Although both sides retreated after the battle, politically it was a great victory for Hungary, as the revolution survived, and the military had more time to prepare. Still the the Hungarian Army day is celebrated on 29th of September as commemoration to this battle.
No, according to the best specialist of the 1848-49, Hermann Róbert, the Croatian troops which were near the battlefield were these: - 1. division led by Lieutenant General Karl Hartlieb with 14,108 soldiers and 12 cannons, - 2. division led by Major General Johann Kempen von Fichtenstamm with 15,389 soldiers and 12 cannons, - 3. division led by Major General Johann Schmidl with 20,961 soldiers and 36 cannons, This makes in total: 50,458[ soldiers and 60 cannons. Because of the fact that Hartlieb arrived too late, only the second and 3. divisions fought in the battle, with 36,350 soldiers and 48 cannons. But from the initial 17,516 soldiers and 46 cannons at their disposition, the Hungarians involved in the battle only 10,444 soldiers and 36 cannons. So it was more than 3 to 1 Croatian superiority among the troops which effectively participated in the battle. The troops of Major General Karl Roth of 9,000 soldiers and 12 cannons were far away, heading towards Székesfehérvár, but they never arrived. So the total number of the Croatian troops which attacked Hungary was around 59, 458 soldiers and 72 cannons. Hermann Róbert's article about the battle with the exact number of troops on both sides is this: Hermann, Róbert (2010), "A pákozdi csata. 1848 szeptember 29", Hadtörténelmi Közlemények 2014 (volume 127, nr. 2)
Awesome video. There are lots of good details about conflict beetwen our ban Jelačić and Hungarians. There are also many more details, but to fully cover history of Croatian and Hungarian relations in this period you would need an even bigger video than this. You said everything what is important. The only criticism I have is pronunciation of croatian names, but I understand its hard for many people. I can't wait to see more of this.
hungarian names are the same mispronunced in this video but who cares he doesnt have to speak every language in the world. Other thing is that Jellasics was the single person in that time period who could change the history if he allies with Hungary against the Habsburgs we could have been independent together....imagine if there were no WW1 and WW2 or the first WW1 could have been much more worse in an other time period, who know. There are a lot of small bits in the history that if that doesnt happen who knows where we could have been now.
@@KOVROL The problem is that the new Hungarian Parliament and Government dissolved the idea of supporting Croatia as a state and let them use their language. We showed the same disrespect towards Croats that the Hansburgs showed to us. THAT is why Jellasics had no intention to talk.
I was waiting so long for you to cover the events of 1848! Thank you! Please keep up the good work, there are a lot more interesting battles in this conflict :)
Great. Very detailed work. As in most actual battles of this place and time they can be very confusing. You do an excellent job of presenting them. Not a easy process I'm sure. Thank you !!
Great Video!! I am doing a thesis on Hungarian Alexander Asboth who fought in the Hungarian Revolution and went on to serve in the AMerican Civil War. Asboth served as a Lt. Col. on Kossuth’s staff.
This is extraordinary! I've heard little of this conflict other than a generalization of Hungarians revolting but your video is a spectacle of embodiment Keep the great work
Funny thing about this revolution is that many of the Hungarian officers fled to foreign lands and helped other nations to fight their revolutions or taught them military tactics. For example they took part in the US civil war, in the unification of Italy, Crimean War... Just to name a few.
Interesting video! Something that could have maybe interested viewers too: That the famous Radetzky march that gets played every year at the new years concert of the viennese philharmonics was composed by waltz king Johann Strauss in honour of Count Radetzky and his victory at Custoza. And that this Radetzky already was one of the main planners of the battle of nations at Leipzig against Napoleon.
My friend lives in Pakozd and I visited her often. This is a well-done video. Thank you. This describes is a similar pattern in history. In 1848 the people were hopeful for change, free press, fair opportunities, equal rights for all....The Empire, Vienna was like a cumbersome, slow moving, aircraft carrier and couldn't be fast and flexible enough....
I'm so hyped for this series! I really, really wish you will gave the same kind of love to this series as you gave to the Frederick the Great one! 6:28 Formation of a *responsible* government. Hungary had a government prior too (headed by the Palatine), but it was not subject to scrutiny from the parliament and lacked designated ministries. Otherwise, your description of Hungary's status within the Habsburg Monarchy is more or less on point. I would only suggest not using the term Austrian Empire when referring to the entirety of the Habsburg Monarchy, since Hungary was legally and administratively a completely separate entity from Austria. In the same vein, I would also suggest not saying that the Austrian Emperor was the King of Hungary, instead I would suggest saying that the Habsburg Monarch was the Austrian Emperor and the King of Hungary at the same time. Hungary's relation to Croatia, Slavonia and Transylvania is a bit murky, but legally speaking all of them where "attached" or "partner" countries of Hungary. Transylvania was directly incorporated into Hungary Proper during the summer of 1848, but the rest retained this status. Lastly, I would also suggest not using the term Budapest, since Budapest didn't exist at the time. Well, technically you could say Budapest, but I would suggest spelling it "Buda-Pest" in the subtitles. Alternatively, you could say either "Buda and Pest", or "Pest-Buda" (afaik this last one is the most widely used term for the twin cities in this period). With all that being said, thank you so much for covering this conflict. I really hope you will do it justice!
Extremely wonderfully explained of political backgrounds and that war ( hungrian revolution) wagged...( house 🏠 of history) channel you are a great one 👍🏻
It is interesting how low the casualtied were, considering that more than 60 000 men were involved. However best Croatian grenzer troops were in Italy at the time, majority of Jelachich troops were reserve 2nd line troops.
In this battle the Hungarians too had very low value troops. Like half of them were national guards and militias, many of them using scythes instead of riffles. We can say that the only professional forces were the Austrian units fighting on both sides. This is why they, did not understand what is happening, and felt caught in the middle, and tried to make ceise fire several times during the battle. They simply did not want to fight against those who some weeks earlier were their own comrades. After this battle Jelacic sent home his unprofessional troops, and was reinforced with more Austrian units, his troops becoming like half Croatian half Austrian, while the new Hungarian commander, Artúr Görgei sent home his unprofessional troops only after the battle of Schwechat, when they started routing after the first Austrian cannon balls hit them.
I think it's very possible that many purposefully did not shoot to kill. Which was actually extremely common amongst troops in modern warfare until recently.
Awesome!! First time I see our historical event in such documentary form! The title says part 1, thus I hope you cover the independence war in a series and this won't be the only episode. Such an important event in Europa's history.
Thank you for covering this! Not only is it a revolution I knew nothing about, but it’s closer to a subject I’d like to know more about, and that is “what was Austria”. I tend only to hear of their defeats and the Hapsburg political games, and this is at the very least directly concerning the history of Austria, and no less part of the birth of the modern Hungary. Also, the Balkan region.
Being austrian, i have to say, even during school i only learned about austrian military defeats never about any won battle. (although learning is a bit much, it got mentioned) And it left me wondering: "how on earth does this country still exist, and how could the Habsburgs stay not just in power over austria, but the majority time of the HRE when all you ever hear is them loosing a battle. As for "political games" the major game i know of was to focus on marry their children off to other rulers to avoid wars and gain allies or territory. Their family motto could be translated to "others may wage wars, you lucky austria marry". btw.: WW1 and 2 were covered in school mainly by telling us "we started them, we are the bad ones, and our side commited the worse war crimes ever". No details on the wars themselves, just a focus on the last two parts. So all i know about WW1 and 2 i had to read up after school in actual books, articles, and by using YT videos of professional and hobby historians.
@@nirfz Russia...thats how they stayed in power. Unfortunatelly... Altho it has to be said that the Hungarian revolution was also an internal war between two royalist camps that viewed the forced abdication of Ferdinand I as a coup d' état and did not recognise the new emperor as legitimate. Hence why so many Austrians also fought on the Hungarian side.
@@jacky9590 The russians didn't help them since 1278... My wondering was not about the hungarian revolution, but during their whole time as rulers of austria and partially the HRE. The russians did help them during the hungarian revolution, correct, but i meant the over 600 years they were in power. What i meant is: Someone who constantly looses doesn't stay in power. But they did, so they probably didn't only loose.But the focus on the internet is on when they lost, so it could be that we get a tiny bit of a wrong picture.
Revolutions are always played off as a movement of the people. But probably around 95% or more are about some rich folks wanting more wealth for themselves, but they market it as a "peoples" movement. Great video again HoH
No, its just that any revolution that was sucessful or semi sucesfull had some noble at the head of it. Having a bunch of peasants rise up with pitchforks and no support almost always meant death for them. Having the funds to train them and arm them, as well as the knowledge to lead the peasants was a duty only a noble could do. So you dont know about the many peasant revolutions that just ended in slaughter, because they are local history.
Hi, could you please lower the music volume/increase the volume of your voice when speaking whilst music is playing please? The music volume was overpowering your voice. Good video 👍
I loved the video! If my opinion is of any use tho, I think you should try and animate each unit block individually instead of groups of four (tho it's not essential and I understand animation is quite difficult, your work is great btw) and imo, having the units wobble a little while in melee combat was a really cool thing you did in the older videos! (Many people don't add that detail and it makes everything so much more smooth)
The voice actor's voice is so low at some points you barely recognize it from loud music. It's a constant feature of your latest videos and it's rather uncomfortable. Otherwise the content is great.
Wait wtf?? I thought the casualty figures would be in the thousands when you look at the size of the armies. How the hell did both armies only lose some 100 men?
Great video, although it's hardly a confused skirmish rather than a battle, this reflects the absence of the will to fight in the Croatian side and the poor tactical abilities of their leadership.
Well, the Croatians were those who attacked. It was not about the absence of will to fight, but rather the fact that both the Croatian and the Hungarian armies were formed by so-called indisciplined popular insurrectionists, militias, and volunteers, who did not know what is a battle. So they were brave until the first shoots started, then lost the will to fight immediately, and got panicked when the first enemy cannonballs started to hit them.
Pretty detailed, only the conclusion is not clear - why they concluded a ceasefire, why Jelacic didn't renew the attack when he received the troops that were lagging behind, and what was his reasoning to withdraw.
No. From nobody. But wait till towards the second part of the series, when the Russians will step in supporting the Habsburgs against the Hungarians, and the war will become a little like Friedrich the Great's war against the world. Only that the Russians involved much more against Hungary in 1849, than against Friedrich.
Prussia was actually busy stopping liberal German uprisings in whole Germany and was also fighting a war against Denmark (which they lost). The Hungarians already performed better and were closer to independence than their Italian counterparts. Prussia may was Austria's rival when it came to domination in Germany, but what both hated in common was liberalism.
0:17 Bozzai Pál poet, one of the young people of March. Literary history calls March Youths, in a broader sense, the persons younger than thirty who participated in the direct preparation of the 1848-49 revolution and war of independence, as well as in the events of March 15, 1848, the literary representatives of the radical revolutionary spirit, or in a narrower sense, Petőfi's circle of friends, the literary masses of the Hungarian countryside sympathetic to their goals, the young orators of the March Revolution. 2:14 There is a joke: The foreigner asks how the Austro-Hungarian monarchy is structured. The answer is very simple: The monarchy consists of the Hungarian kingdom and the Austrian empire. The Austrian Empire consists of the Grand duchy of Austria, the Kingdom of Bohemia and Galicia. The Kingdom of Hungary consists of the countries of the Holy Crown, i.e. the Kingdom of Hungary and the Kingdom of Croatia. 3:24 There are two dates for the beginning of the Hungarian reform era (one literary and one political). In 1825, Vörösmarty's epic The Conquest of the Carpathian Basin was published under the title Run of Zalán. And the national assembly of 1832-1836. At this national assembly, a law was passed that the official language of the laws should be Hungarian. There are two dates for the beginning of the Hungarian reform era (one literary and one political). In 1825, Vörösmarty's epic The Conquest of the Carpathian Basin was published under the title Run of Zalán. And the national assembly of 1832-1836. At this national assembly, a law was passed that the official language of the laws should be Hungarian. By the way, what sources do you work with?
Its quite funny how the war ended since we surrendered to the russians and not to the austrian this is really simbolic becouse we said we lost to the russians not the austrians
Sándor Petőfi: National Song On your feet now, Hungary calls you! Now is the moment, nothing stalls you, Shall we be slaves or men set free That is the question, answer me! By all the gods of Hungary We hereby swear, That we the yoke of slavery No more shall wear. Slaves we have been to this hour, Our forefathers who fell from power Fell free and lived as free men will, On land that was their own to till, By all the gods of Hungary We hereby swear, That we the yoke of slavery No more shall wear. Whoever now his life begrudges Deserves his death with thieves and drudges, For setting his own worthless hide Above his country’s need and pride. By all the gods of Hungary We hereby swear, That we the yoke of slavery No more shall wear. The sword shines brighter than the fetters It is the finery of our betters, Of slaves and fetters we grow bored. Leap to my side, ancestral sword. By all the gods of Hungary We hereby swear, That we the yoke of slavery No more shall wear. Magyars, once more our name and story Shall match our ancestors’ in glory The centuries of shame and hurt Can now be washed away like dirt. By all the gods of Hungary We hereby swear, That we the yoke of slavery No more shall wear. And wheresoever we may perish Grandchildren those graves shall cherish Singing our praises in their prayers To thank us that our names are theirs. By all the gods of Hungary We hereby swear, That we the yoke of slavery No more shall wear.
Somehow, this seemed to me to be the stupidest battle I've ever seen, totally devoid of any real tactics, at least on the Croatian side. On the other hand, I knew nothing about how the Hungarian revolution had any real battles to it, and then especially didn't know that different areas within the empire fought each other and in particular that the Croatians and Hungarians had fought battles against each other. Which is really interesting and good to learn.
Are you sure those casualty figures are correct? Those numbers were extremely low for such a large battle? The Croats especially, given that they were going up hill, i was expecting high casualties.
They are correct. Both armies consisted of mostly unorganized untrained peasants. The few regular troops on both sides didn’t want to fight eachother, given that they were comerades just a while ago in the Austrian army. This battle is only significant, because this was the first major battle of the revolution.
Sounds like the handling of the troops on both sides was rather more amature than professional. Also, why didn't the Ottomans attack? Historically they took every opportunity to attack the Hapsburgs.
It's really hard to manage this many troops, and thr Ottomans were way too weak to do anything, they were more busy with trying to keep their empire toghether at this point
1:23 unaccurate to visualize Hungary without Transylvania at the time. technicly it wasn't part of the country, as the Austrians considered it as diferent province, but one of the main objectives of the Revolution was to unify Hungary with Transylvania again (as long as the Revolutionaries didn't dethroned the Habsburgs, cause after that it hardly mattered anymore). And Hungarians considerd it as one country.
Thank you for the video, but allow me a couple of comments: It was strange to hear that the outcome of the battle was in doubt, because after the battle, Jelasic fled to Vienna and left the country, and his auxiliaries and about 8,000 people were surrounded by the Hungarians at Ozora a few days later and the Croats laid down their arms. This was a clear Croatian defeat, Jelesic fled to Vienna, while he originally wanted to go to Budapest (or Pest-Buda). By the way, Pákozd really wasn't a big battle, and this was mostly due to the cowardice of Jelasic and the Croats, who, despite being twice as strong, fled the country instead. After that, the war lasted for more than a year with much bloodier battles, and I hope the makers will work on them in such detail, in which case there will be about 20 more episodes of the series. The brave fighters of the Hungarian War of Independence deserve that others also know their story, and that the story of the war should not only be known in the Carpathian Basin. Thank you.
After the battle, which it self was barely more then a exchange of fire, their was a 3 day truce. In the evening after the battle Hungarians orderd a general retreat and in the darkness, mistakenly fired upon one anouther. Anyway, Jelačić retreated because he feared an anti-Austrian populace to the south woud revolt, so his army woud be encircled so he marches northwest to establish communication with Vienna, while the Hungarians didn’t persue the marching army with their cavalry. Considering the casuelties numbered less then 100 in a battle of over 60,000 this was less of a military victory and more of a moral one
04:41 Hungarian names are in reverse order. Family name (surname) first, then the name(s) chosen by the parents. F.e. Kossuth Lajos, Móga János, etc. In other words: Our first names are not first :- ) should you ever need any help with Hungarian names (people and places), I am glad to help.
Damn that pronunciation if Jelacic hurts my ears... I hope next part will cover Serbian Vojvodina and how both Austrians and Hungarians kept promising stuff to Serbs but in fact just lied. So everyone can understand why this shitty empire needed to go down.
Than also talk about the genocide the Serbs committed against the Hungarians, and why Damjanich said that he will kill every Serb man ,women and children in revenge, or how Kossuth in his proclamation promised no revenge but warned them . Or how the Romanian guerilla troops massacered villages, and wounded soldiers left on the battlefield. Or how Slovak guerilla troops massacered villages and nobility, like the family of Madách Imre . So with all due respect stfu Serb. If Hungary,Coatia,Bulgaria,Macedonia,Bosnia and Albania would pay you guys back for all the ethnic clensings you fuckers committed since 1848 and the Serb-Ottoman wars, there would be no Serbs left alive.
(I will assume this is a genuine question) Briefly: A-H ---> WW1 ---> Invaded by Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Romania --->Treaty of Trianon (more like dictation) ---> destroyed economy, no industry, surrounded by Little Entente (hostile states) ----> Only economic partners: Germany, Italy ---> joining Axis ---> negotiating with the Allies ---> invaded by Germany ---> Holocaust ---> thrown to the USSR ---> destroyed economy again ---> no domestic capital during privatization ---> almost complete loss of domestic industry ---> Here we are (I'm not an expert so feel free correcting me or adding to it)
I like how one of the old documentary put it. When they talk about freedom,They meant the freedom to absolutely oppress the weak. Its a great shame that the Emperor ended up giving power and autonomy to his least loyal people(except the Italian) and leave his loyal slav high and dry.
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Slovak uprising happened only in Western Slovakia, most of Slovaks fought on the side of the Revolution. You forget that too: Around 40% of the private soldiers in the Hungarian Revolutionary Volunteer Army consisted of ethnic minorities of the country.[5]
Fatherland? Only a fool can call the land Father. It's motherland. It's "szülőföld" = birthing place / anyaföld = female. U throw in the seeds and it takes care of them.
By the way most of the Hungarian words have 2 meanings at least: szülő = parent the person who is giving birth = mother. Sun = father (Sol Iustitiae) = male, Moon = female (Hold = mirror of the truth = Holy Mary) also Hónap (Holdnap = 28 days which is also the cycle of a woman approx)
Esztendő (year) = Istenidő (God's time)
and there is much much more :D - 'cos it's a very ancient language.
Hoh! Have you read this basic contitutional history? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austro-Hungarian_Compromise_of_1867
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Yes! And the many Poles who fought with us in 1848 are always in our hearts and we consider them Hungarian, in fact more Hungarian than even Hungarians because they gave their lives for this land even though some of them did not even speak our language.
Greetings to Polish brothers from Hungary.
Thanks for a video about Hungarian history, and also for the attention for details! Keep it up! Not even in scholarly literature have I seen such a detailed description of troop movemnents; and the political contexts is also well briefed. You could check the pronunciation of Hungarian and Croatian names. :) The 51K vs 17K might be inflated, possibly you counted all personel (even Roth division) for Croatia and only the directly involved troops for Hungary. Although both sides retreated after the battle, politically it was a great victory for Hungary, as the revolution survived, and the military had more time to prepare. Still the the Hungarian Army day is celebrated on 29th of September as commemoration to this battle.
No, according to the best specialist of the 1848-49, Hermann Róbert, the Croatian troops which were near the battlefield were these:
- 1. division led by Lieutenant General Karl Hartlieb with 14,108 soldiers and 12 cannons,
- 2. division led by Major General Johann Kempen von Fichtenstamm with 15,389 soldiers and 12 cannons,
- 3. division led by Major General Johann Schmidl with 20,961 soldiers and 36 cannons,
This makes in total: 50,458[ soldiers and 60 cannons.
Because of the fact that Hartlieb arrived too late, only the second and 3. divisions fought in the battle, with 36,350 soldiers and 48 cannons.
But from the initial 17,516 soldiers and 46 cannons at their disposition, the Hungarians involved in the battle only 10,444 soldiers and 36 cannons. So it was more than 3 to 1 Croatian superiority among the troops which effectively participated in the battle.
The troops of Major General Karl Roth of 9,000 soldiers and 12 cannons were far away, heading towards Székesfehérvár, but they never arrived. So the total number of the Croatian troops which attacked Hungary was around 59, 458 soldiers and 72 cannons.
Hermann Róbert's article about the battle with the exact number of troops on both sides is this: Hermann, Róbert (2010), "A pákozdi csata. 1848 szeptember 29", Hadtörténelmi Közlemények 2014 (volume 127, nr. 2)
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Awesome video. There are lots of good details about conflict beetwen our ban Jelačić and Hungarians. There are also many more details, but to fully cover history of Croatian and Hungarian relations in this period you would need an even bigger video than this. You said everything what is important. The only criticism I have is pronunciation of croatian names, but I understand its hard for many people. I can't wait to see more of this.
Agree. Also France was a kingdom, not an empire in 1848 and in the 1848 revolutions became a republic.
hungarian names are the same mispronunced in this video but who cares he doesnt have to speak every language in the world. Other thing is that Jellasics was the single person in that time period who could change the history if he allies with Hungary against the Habsburgs we could have been independent together....imagine if there were no WW1 and WW2 or the first WW1 could have been much more worse in an other time period, who know. There are a lot of small bits in the history that if that doesnt happen who knows where we could have been now.
@@KOVROL The problem is that the new Hungarian Parliament and Government dissolved the idea of supporting Croatia as a state and let them use their language. We showed the same disrespect towards Croats that the Hansburgs showed to us. THAT is why Jellasics had no intention to talk.
@@humorpalanta Wrong. It is a myth. The status of Croatia was not changed and not aaffected by any new laws.
Great video! I can't wait for the following parts. I'm especially looking forward to hearing you talk about general Józef Bem.
I was waiting so long for you to cover the events of 1848! Thank you! Please keep up the good work, there are a lot more interesting battles in this conflict :)
Croats and Hungarians fought countless battles together against Ottomans to the last man,so this sounds more like a quarrel.
Great. Very detailed work.
As in most actual battles of this place and time they can be very confusing. You do an excellent job of presenting them. Not a easy process I'm sure.
Thank you !!
Great Video!!
I am doing a thesis on Hungarian Alexander Asboth who fought in the Hungarian Revolution and went on to serve in the AMerican Civil War. Asboth served as a Lt. Col. on Kossuth’s staff.
This is extraordinary! I've heard little of this conflict other than a generalization of Hungarians revolting but your video is a spectacle of embodiment
Keep the great work
Funny thing about this revolution is that many of the Hungarian officers fled to foreign lands and helped other nations to fight their revolutions or taught them military tactics. For example they took part in the US civil war, in the unification of Italy, Crimean War... Just to name a few.
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Interesting video! Something that could have maybe interested viewers too: That the famous Radetzky march that gets played every year at the new years concert of the viennese philharmonics was composed by waltz king Johann Strauss in honour of Count Radetzky and his victory at Custoza.
And that this Radetzky already was one of the main planners of the battle of nations at Leipzig against Napoleon.
Excellent work as always!
Incredible video, I have always wanted to see something like this on the Hungarian Revolution of 1848.
The savage massacre how Croatian and Hungarian names were butchered by the video is unparalleled. Hungarian-Croatian brotherhood despite all.
Well, considering how puny losses were on each side, the massacre had to take place *somewhere* ;)
Great video, covering a conflict that I've never seen elsewhere on here
My friend lives in Pakozd and I visited her often. This is a well-done video. Thank you. This describes is a similar pattern in history. In 1848 the people were hopeful for change, free press, fair opportunities, equal rights for all....The Empire, Vienna was like a cumbersome, slow moving, aircraft carrier and couldn't be fast and flexible enough....
I'm so hyped for this series! I really, really wish you will gave the same kind of love to this series as you gave to the Frederick the Great one!
6:28 Formation of a *responsible* government. Hungary had a government prior too (headed by the Palatine), but it was not subject to scrutiny from the parliament and lacked designated ministries.
Otherwise, your description of Hungary's status within the Habsburg Monarchy is more or less on point. I would only suggest not using the term Austrian Empire when referring to the entirety of the Habsburg Monarchy, since Hungary was legally and administratively a completely separate entity from Austria. In the same vein, I would also suggest not saying that the Austrian Emperor was the King of Hungary, instead I would suggest saying that the Habsburg Monarch was the Austrian Emperor and the King of Hungary at the same time.
Hungary's relation to Croatia, Slavonia and Transylvania is a bit murky, but legally speaking all of them where "attached" or "partner" countries of Hungary. Transylvania was directly incorporated into Hungary Proper during the summer of 1848, but the rest retained this status.
Lastly, I would also suggest not using the term Budapest, since Budapest didn't exist at the time. Well, technically you could say Budapest, but I would suggest spelling it "Buda-Pest" in the subtitles. Alternatively, you could say either "Buda and Pest", or "Pest-Buda" (afaik this last one is the most widely used term for the twin cities in this period).
With all that being said, thank you so much for covering this conflict. I really hope you will do it justice!
here is a proper article aboout the legal/constitutional status of Kingdom of Hungary en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austro-Hungarian_Compromise_of_1867
It was an excellent video, thank you for creating it. I'll share in as many groups as I can.
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Extremely wonderfully explained of political backgrounds and that war ( hungrian revolution) wagged...( house 🏠 of history) channel you are a great one 👍🏻
Outstanding video as always. Cheers from Tennessee
FINALLY someone covers this topic!
Excellent lecture. Hopefully it is the first part of "the European uprisings" which is a little known part of European history. Once again thank you.
Awesome!!, a Video About the First italian independence war would be interesting
Well, the video was incredible, can't wait to see Franz Joseph step in later!
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It’s always weird to me when there are numerous instances of “fierce fighting” but then the casualty numbers are low.
It is interesting how low the casualtied were, considering that more than 60 000 men were involved.
However best Croatian grenzer troops were in Italy at the time, majority of Jelachich troops were reserve 2nd line troops.
In this battle the Hungarians too had very low value troops. Like half of them were national guards and militias, many of them using scythes instead of riffles. We can say that the only professional forces were the Austrian units fighting on both sides. This is why they, did not understand what is happening, and felt caught in the middle, and tried to make ceise fire several times during the battle. They simply did not want to fight against those who some weeks earlier were their own comrades. After this battle Jelacic sent home his unprofessional troops, and was reinforced with more Austrian units, his troops becoming like half Croatian half Austrian, while the new Hungarian commander, Artúr Görgei sent home his unprofessional troops only after the battle of Schwechat, when they started routing after the first Austrian cannon balls hit them.
I think it's very possible that many purposefully did not shoot to kill. Which was actually extremely common amongst troops in modern warfare until recently.
I am Hungarian. Liked and subscribed this was amazing
Amazing, can't wait to see more of the series.
Awesome!! First time I see our historical event in such documentary form! The title says part 1, thus I hope you cover the independence war in a series and this won't be the only episode. Such an important event in Europa's history.
Outstanding, as usual.
This series will be a good one
Respect my friend 🙏🏻 great video
Do a lot of Napoleon's battles! They never get old.
Thank you for covering this! Not only is it a revolution I knew nothing about, but it’s closer to a subject I’d like to know more about, and that is “what was Austria”. I tend only to hear of their defeats and the Hapsburg political games, and this is at the very least directly concerning the history of Austria, and no less part of the birth of the modern Hungary. Also, the Balkan region.
Being austrian, i have to say, even during school i only learned about austrian military defeats never about any won battle. (although learning is a bit much, it got mentioned) And it left me wondering: "how on earth does this country still exist, and how could the Habsburgs stay not just in power over austria, but the majority time of the HRE when all you ever hear is them loosing a battle.
As for "political games" the major game i know of was to focus on marry their children off to other rulers to avoid wars and gain allies or territory.
Their family motto could be translated to "others may wage wars, you lucky austria marry".
btw.: WW1 and 2 were covered in school mainly by telling us "we started them, we are the bad ones, and our side commited the worse war crimes ever". No details on the wars themselves, just a focus on the last two parts.
So all i know about WW1 and 2 i had to read up after school in actual books, articles, and by using YT videos of professional and hobby historians.
@@nirfz Russia...thats how they stayed in power. Unfortunatelly... Altho it has to be said that the Hungarian revolution was also an internal war between two royalist camps that viewed the forced abdication of Ferdinand I as a coup d' état and did not recognise the new emperor as legitimate. Hence why so many Austrians also fought on the Hungarian side.
@@jacky9590 The russians didn't help them since 1278... My wondering was not about the hungarian revolution, but during their whole time as rulers of austria and partially the HRE.
The russians did help them during the hungarian revolution, correct, but i meant the over 600 years they were in power.
What i meant is: Someone who constantly looses doesn't stay in power. But they did, so they probably didn't only loose.But the focus on the internet is on when they lost, so it could be that we get a tiny bit of a wrong picture.
@@nirfz Austria didn’t lose all wars. It was a mixed bag. Austria/Habsburgs beat the Ottomans.
Another battle in the most peaceful period in human history!
Too many names of people I have no knowledge of & their importance to events. This was not so much a battle but a series of indecisive skirmishes.
Revolutions are always played off as a movement of the people. But probably around 95% or more are about some rich folks wanting more wealth for themselves, but they market it as a "peoples" movement. Great video again HoH
No, its just that any revolution that was sucessful or semi sucesfull had some noble at the head of it. Having a bunch of peasants rise up with pitchforks and no support almost always meant death for them. Having the funds to train them and arm them, as well as the knowledge to lead the peasants was a duty only a noble could do. So you dont know about the many peasant revolutions that just ended in slaughter, because they are local history.
I am very excited for this video!!!
Im looking forward to this series
Hi, could you please lower the music volume/increase the volume of your voice when speaking whilst music is playing please? The music volume was overpowering your voice. Good video 👍
Thanks for the feedback, will do!
@@HoH I think the mix was fine.
i love your videos. please more
I loved the video! If my opinion is of any use tho, I think you should try and animate each unit block individually instead of groups of four (tho it's not essential and I understand animation is quite difficult, your work is great btw) and imo, having the units wobble a little while in melee combat was a really cool thing you did in the older videos! (Many people don't add that detail and it makes everything so much more smooth)
Still waiting on part 2 😅
The voice actor's voice is so low at some points you barely recognize it from loud music. It's a constant feature of your latest videos and it's rather uncomfortable. Otherwise the content is great.
Wait wtf?? I thought the casualty figures would be in the thousands when you look at the size of the armies. How the hell did both armies only lose some 100 men?
Great video, although it's hardly a confused skirmish rather than a battle, this reflects the absence of the will to fight in the Croatian side and the poor tactical abilities of their leadership.
Well, the Croatians were those who attacked. It was not about the absence of will to fight, but rather the fact that both the Croatian and the Hungarian armies were formed by so-called indisciplined popular insurrectionists, militias, and volunteers, who did not know what is a battle. So they were brave until the first shoots started, then lost the will to fight immediately, and got panicked when the first enemy cannonballs started to hit them.
i'm always so baffled when a battle like this has so few casualties
These people knew each other. They lived in the same country. I can be relatives or friends. They just picked a side....
will this be ever continued?
Pretty detailed, only the conclusion is not clear - why they concluded a ceasefire, why Jelacic didn't renew the attack when he received the troops that were lagging behind, and what was his reasoning to withdraw.
Really good video. I wonder if Hungary received any support from Prussia during this time
No. From nobody. But wait till towards the second part of the series, when the Russians will step in supporting the Habsburgs against the Hungarians, and the war will become a little like Friedrich the Great's war against the world. Only that the Russians involved much more against Hungary in 1849, than against Friedrich.
Prussia was actually busy stopping liberal German uprisings in whole Germany and was also fighting a war against Denmark (which they lost). The Hungarians already performed better and were closer to independence than their Italian counterparts. Prussia may was Austria's rival when it came to domination in Germany, but what both hated in common was liberalism.
@@szalard And after all Hungary serves Russia like a dog.
It's motherland, not fatherland! We are not Germans.
Awesome Vid's I'm so hooked! Love this Channel!
0:17 Bozzai Pál poet, one of the young people of March. Literary history calls March Youths, in a broader sense, the persons younger than thirty who participated in the direct preparation of the 1848-49 revolution and war of independence, as well as in the events of March 15, 1848, the literary representatives of the radical revolutionary spirit, or in a narrower sense, Petőfi's circle of friends, the literary masses of the Hungarian countryside sympathetic to their goals, the young orators of the March Revolution.
2:14 There is a joke: The foreigner asks how the Austro-Hungarian monarchy is structured. The answer is very simple: The monarchy consists of the Hungarian kingdom and the Austrian empire. The Austrian Empire consists of the Grand duchy of Austria, the Kingdom of Bohemia and Galicia. The Kingdom of Hungary consists of the countries of the Holy Crown, i.e. the Kingdom of Hungary and the Kingdom of Croatia.
3:24 There are two dates for the beginning of the Hungarian reform era (one literary and one political). In 1825, Vörösmarty's epic The Conquest of the Carpathian Basin was published under the title Run of Zalán. And the national assembly of 1832-1836. At this national assembly, a law was passed that the official language of the laws should be Hungarian.
There are two dates for the beginning of the Hungarian reform era (one literary and one political). In 1825, Vörösmarty's epic The Conquest of the Carpathian Basin was published under the title Run of Zalán. And the national assembly of 1832-1836. At this national assembly, a law was passed that the official language of the laws should be Hungarian.
By the way, what sources do you work with?
I am glad that for the most part nobody got hurt.
nice work, but you are saying Jelačić wrong
Great job
Its quite funny how the war ended since we surrendered to the russians and not to the austrian this is really simbolic becouse we said we lost to the russians not the austrians
Thanks
when will have the next Hungary's War of Independence
Sándor Petőfi:
National Song
On your feet now, Hungary calls you!
Now is the moment, nothing stalls you,
Shall we be slaves or men set free
That is the question, answer me!
By all the gods of Hungary
We hereby swear,
That we the yoke of slavery
No more shall wear.
Slaves we have been to this hour,
Our forefathers who fell from power
Fell free and lived as free men will,
On land that was their own to till,
By all the gods of Hungary
We hereby swear,
That we the yoke of slavery
No more shall wear.
Whoever now his life begrudges
Deserves his death with thieves and drudges,
For setting his own worthless hide
Above his country’s need and pride.
By all the gods of Hungary
We hereby swear,
That we the yoke of slavery
No more shall wear.
The sword shines brighter than the fetters
It is the finery of our betters,
Of slaves and fetters we grow bored.
Leap to my side, ancestral sword.
By all the gods of Hungary
We hereby swear,
That we the yoke of slavery
No more shall wear.
Magyars, once more our name and story
Shall match our ancestors’ in glory
The centuries of shame and hurt
Can now be washed away like dirt.
By all the gods of Hungary
We hereby swear,
That we the yoke of slavery
No more shall wear.
And wheresoever we may perish
Grandchildren those graves shall cherish
Singing our praises in their prayers
To thank us that our names are theirs.
By all the gods of Hungary
We hereby swear,
That we the yoke of slavery
No more shall wear.
Somehow, this seemed to me to be the stupidest battle I've ever seen, totally devoid of any real tactics, at least on the Croatian side. On the other hand, I knew nothing about how the Hungarian revolution had any real battles to it, and then especially didn't know that different areas within the empire fought each other and in particular that the Croatians and Hungarians had fought battles against each other. Which is really interesting and good to learn.
Great, I just cannot get why Transsylvania (which is Erdely) nor part of Hungary here.
It clearly is.
"A concise 69 words"
Man knows his priorities.
Are you sure those casualty figures are correct? Those numbers were extremely low for such a large battle? The Croats especially, given that they were going up hill, i was expecting high casualties.
They are correct. Both armies consisted of mostly unorganized untrained peasants. The few regular troops on both sides didn’t want to fight eachother, given that they were comerades just a while ago in the Austrian army. This battle is only significant, because this was the first major battle of the revolution.
@@ferencjenoerdei2893 thanks for confirming
Make a video on the battle of keresztes
Next episode when
How soon will there be a video on Minden?
Please check the prononciation of names, you butchered basicly all of the hungarian and slavic ones
Is this series being continued
I was interested but the background music was giving me a headache so I bailed early.
Sounds like the handling of the troops on both sides was rather more amature than professional. Also, why didn't the Ottomans attack? Historically they took every opportunity to attack the Hapsburgs.
It's really hard to manage this many troops, and thr Ottomans were way too weak to do anything, they were more busy with trying to keep their empire toghether at this point
The objective of 1848 was extinct and destroy the austrians, hungarys and croats. That objective was concluded in 1915 after ww1
What is the difference between the yellow and blue troops on the Croatian side? I'm confused.
Yellow is Austrian, blue is Croatian. They fought on the same side.
Being Croatian on my mother's side I'm always happy to hear about Croatia Long live Croatia
They Said that they dont see a Croatia just Hungary.That Croatia dont exist
1:23 unaccurate to visualize Hungary without Transylvania at the time. technicly it wasn't part of the country, as the Austrians considered it as diferent province, but one of the main objectives of the Revolution was to unify Hungary with Transylvania again (as long as the Revolutionaries didn't dethroned the Habsburgs, cause after that it hardly mattered anymore). And Hungarians considerd it as one country.
It is accurately represented. You confirm so in your own comment. And the narrative makes sure to explicitly touch upon Transylvania's case.
Thank you for the video, but allow me a couple of comments: It was strange to hear that the outcome of the battle was in doubt, because after the battle, Jelasic fled to Vienna and left the country, and his auxiliaries and about 8,000 people were surrounded by the Hungarians at Ozora a few days later and the Croats laid down their arms. This was a clear Croatian defeat, Jelesic fled to Vienna, while he originally wanted to go to Budapest (or Pest-Buda). By the way, Pákozd really wasn't a big battle, and this was mostly due to the cowardice of Jelasic and the Croats, who, despite being twice as strong, fled the country instead. After that, the war lasted for more than a year with much bloodier battles, and I hope the makers will work on them in such detail, in which case there will be about 20 more episodes of the series. The brave fighters of the Hungarian War of Independence deserve that others also know their story, and that the story of the war should not only be known in the Carpathian Basin. Thank you.
After the battle, which it self was barely more then a exchange of fire, their was a 3 day truce. In the evening after the battle Hungarians orderd a general retreat and in the darkness, mistakenly fired upon one anouther. Anyway, Jelačić retreated because he feared an anti-Austrian populace to the south woud revolt, so his army woud be encircled so he marches northwest to establish communication with Vienna, while the Hungarians didn’t persue the marching army with their cavalry. Considering the casuelties numbered less then 100 in a battle of over 60,000 this was less of a military victory and more of a moral one
Well done, but your pronunciation of Croatian names made my ears bleed. In future if you need help with Croatian names, feel free to ask.
There always must be a war
The eastern border of the ottoman empire isn't drawn right
Emperor Ferdinand I of Austria or King Ferdinand V of Hungary
Map of Hungary is wrong.
Transylvania is part of Hungary.
One of the 12 points of the reformers was literally Union with Transylvania. Sajnos tévedsz a történelmünkkel kapcsolatban.
When you fight a whole day only to kill 200 men....
The main purpose of the battle is not to kill people.
STEPHEN THE GREAT BATTLES!!!!!!!!
so it begins!!😅
04:41 Hungarian names are in reverse order. Family name (surname) first, then the name(s) chosen by the parents. F.e. Kossuth Lajos, Móga János, etc. In other words: Our first names are not first :- )
should you ever need any help with Hungarian names (people and places), I am glad to help.
Battle of Eger
Damn that pronunciation if Jelacic hurts my ears...
I hope next part will cover Serbian Vojvodina and how both Austrians and Hungarians kept promising stuff to Serbs but in fact just lied. So everyone can understand why this shitty empire needed to go down.
Than also talk about the genocide the Serbs committed against the Hungarians, and why Damjanich said that he will kill every Serb man ,women and children in revenge, or how Kossuth in his proclamation promised no revenge but warned them . Or how the Romanian guerilla troops massacered villages, and wounded soldiers left on the battlefield. Or how Slovak guerilla troops massacered villages and nobility, like the family of Madách Imre . So with all due respect stfu Serb. If Hungary,Coatia,Bulgaria,Macedonia,Bosnia and Albania would pay you guys back for all the ethnic clensings you fuckers committed since 1848 and the Serb-Ottoman wars, there would be no Serbs left alive.
Let's not forget, Serbs were Ottoman era migrants and refugees on that territory.
@@FerencBulker some... But other were there before Hungarians came to Europe
@@DelijeSerbia Yes, but they were not from Serbian ethnicity.
@@FerencBulker Well if you neglect Serbian/Slavic roots for places like Pančevo, or Balaton lake.
1:22 = that map of Hungary is incorrect ! That time Croatia was part of Hungary , and Erdély [ transylvania ] both was HUNGARY ! Etc...
Yes, the Revolution that threatened to tear apart the Empire of the Habsburgs, thank God they managed to keep it together
Habsburgs: short on chins, long on politics and strategy
I don't know about civic democracy. Be normal.
From this to Orbán. What went wrong? Great video once again!
Do not involve here the actual politics. There are other platforms for this. Thanks.
(I will assume this is a genuine question)
Briefly: A-H ---> WW1 ---> Invaded by Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Romania --->Treaty of Trianon (more like dictation) ---> destroyed economy, no industry, surrounded by Little Entente (hostile states) ----> Only economic partners: Germany, Italy ---> joining Axis ---> negotiating with the Allies ---> invaded by Germany ---> Holocaust ---> thrown to the USSR ---> destroyed economy again ---> no domestic capital during privatization ---> almost complete loss of domestic industry ---> Here we are
(I'm not an expert so feel free correcting me or adding to it)
Stupid people has been driven with a massive propganda.
The people of "this " era would be marching to take back Subcarpathia at the minimum.
Can you do a video on the fall of the Ottoman Empire?
Seeing turquoise color troops made me realize that would be a good color for ottoman troops.
I like how one of the old documentary put it.
When they talk about freedom,They meant the freedom to absolutely oppress the weak.
Its a great shame that the Emperor ended up giving power and autonomy to his least loyal people(except the Italian) and leave his loyal slav high and dry.
All this fighting and around 500 casualties in total?! Were they firing insults at each other? Lol
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