PS5 Beeps then shuts off. Very weird short circuit.
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The anti-glare microscope light solution has been around for a long time. Amscope's SE400 (introduced in 2011) has a glare-avoiding gooseneck light built in. And add-on dual gooseneck lights for microscopes have been around for a very long time. All of these are anti glare solutions compared to ring lights. This in no way diminishes Alex's Channel and his amazing contributions to the field. I think it's awesome what he and his company brings to the table. But just chronologically speaking anti-glare lights for microscopes have been around for many years.
Principles of Microscope Illumination and the Problem of Glare. Journal of the Optical Society of America. Vol. 34, Issue 12, pp. 695-710 (1944)
Its just a 6500k temperature or so bulb, nothing special. I use a $12 flood light as a microscope light, works awesome. 😂
He might of coined the term is all
Side lighting or polarization-filters are common practice for a very long time in many different industries.
If you found liquid metal on the board there may be some leakage onto the caps under the plastic shield on the APU, I have seen this issue before, great videos by the way, thanks for your efforts.🙂
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Good Point !
My guess is, that the owner had the ps5 on its side, therefore causing liquid metal to leak onto the board, therefore killing the mainboard due to metal shorts. This is what sony doesnt tell you.
@@nickwood8694mine has been on the side since january 2021, no problems.
10:31 - did anyone notice that Alex put M020 chip in the wrong way? It's rotated 90 degrees comparing to what it was 20 seconds ago.
Yes, that M020 is facing the wrong way - not the original problem, but it will compound the problem.
Yes noticed it off camera, but that's not the problem.
@@NorthridgeFix Yes, of course it's not the main problem, but it could add up to the problems next shop will be dealing with.
As for the original problem , these 2 amps must show up somewhere. Besides the notes about area next to the Panasonic chip, maybe it's worth freezing the board and see what will light up on a thermal cam.
9:05 you can see a very small heat spot right beside the Panasonic chip , it might be the cause of the short
I tested everything in the area and behind the board. I did see a slight heat spot after chip removal but culprit is unknown. I also measured surrounding caps and replaced all chips in the area and nothing changed. I'll give it another go on Monday and we'll see how it goes.
@@NorthridgeFix you done all the chip replacement , now the only thing I can suggest may or not work is to have an ultrasonic cleaning to get rid of the liquid metal tat's trap
I was about to post this as well but as always I'm late to the party 😅
Could the pcb layers be shorted internally? Where does that tiny heat spot come from?
unknown , he'll have to do it again for us to see @@mikeh6286
This is like watching Sherlock Holmes drama. Eagerly awaiting part 2
I taught Advanced Electronics so I enjoy watching your videos. I am particularly impressed with your skill doing fine soldering and replacing micro components. I am particularly interested in seeing where you are going with this video because it appears this one could be a challenge. Certainly, it is a little more involved than your standard short circuit troubleshooting and component replacement. Good luck
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Now this is a interesting one. You gotta love the in-depth repairs. Even though time is money sometimes the joy of fixing a tricky device is worth it.
Something tells me it may be the controller on the cpu itself. Its an AMD APU so the actual display out is on the cpu die. The Panasonic chip is only used to drive (convert) some of the data signal to standard HDMI (and display port) output.
Also, faulty RAM and faulty hard storage can cause this as well (at least on PC loose or faulty ram will prevent the display from turning on even if you somehow get past bios load).
The 2 amp draw sounds like a faulty ram chip. The area where you wiped the liquid metal from **might** be the test pad area for the ram chips (difficult to tell because not everything was in view)
you know a great deal about computer repair or computer design do you have a shop or are you an engineer?
you remove panasonic chip and then inject voltage, I saw a hot point on or under the panasonic chip. Check 8:45 I think its the issue between layer of board. Its tiny hot point.
An ultrasonic deep clean would be advised to eliminate possible short caused by liquid metal
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Same way they do body work if lights are projected from the sides. It shows ridges and scratches that you can’t see when the light is shining from the top! Excellent skills and a steady hand goes along way!!
Plain and simple you made it easier all around the the repair field for electronics. Your store has brought everything close at hand... great job Alex...you made it so easy for me to learn about electronics and to find a short. From there it's a process of elimination. Thank you ...and if ever like to donate old electronics to me That would be most excellent...keep posting videos...
Alex . I saw a similar problem. Either liquid metal under core cover . Or cap pad shorting to ground layer .
Hi Alex, please check the diodes at the panasonic chip and hdmi port area, if the diodes are good, try to replace the panasonic chip with the new chip. I once worked on a PS5 with the same symptoms and replacing the hdmi chip solved the problem.
I saw a heat spot up in the corner where you point your short killer prop , maybe that you missed it out check video time 9:05 ..
Having fun watching your videos and teaching me alot of things thanks for sharing with us Alex ..❤
Thank you for all your great videos and hard work could the liquid metal have split under the plastic tape around the cpu thank you again kind regards
Is there a part 2 yet?
You are a fucking star man! No technician will ever publish a video like this, and this is something that happens in our profession every day! Problems we can't solve! Just keep doing what you're doing! You are the best!
Might be more Liquid Metal somewhere perhaps under a chip.
It takes a real thinker to say they can't figure it out, so I bow to your knowledge and intelligence. You will figure it out in the end.
3 beeps is a POST failure. It generally indicates a terminal problem with the unit and is most commonly caused by heat related issues having caused the GPU or CPU to have become unseated. It is a common cause of the dreaded YLOD, you might have to reflow the chip.
1 beep then off.
@@NorthridgeFix The POST system tells you the problem, by the number of beeps. It's a code, like a check-engine code.
You have to gooble the codes for whoever makes the motherboard/BIOS.
Probably RAM or BIOS ROM.
when the part 2 of the video u will release?
Hi Alex, it can be a line which is inside of the board layers between the components.
Wow! If anybody can find the fault and fix this PS5 board, I have the highest confidence you can do it. Your the best technicain I have seen anywhere on youtube.
Roll your tounge in and calm down mate.Thousands of people do this job every day,it requires concentration,focus,logical thinking and patience.Once you accive that you have experience,not for everybody but we are not surgeons or gods.Alex is very good and talented and very driven,max respect to him for what he does,but unique,surgeon and all the hyperbolic fanboy language,not really.We don't save lives,we fix electronic stuff.Get a grip,have a beer and calm down.Its a job.
The short is a small short. Caused by the liquid metal spill, I’d clean and check all components in that area thoroughly.
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Waiting for next video.
In some cases, the encoder could be the middle man between the line and the actual short. Essentially showing like it's the issue, but ends up being another line connected to the encoder.
I wonder if there is some damage to the layers some how
there's definitely a heat spot above the blue spot where i assume was the panasonic chip?
I hope you found the source of the problem. That's an interesting one.
Waiting for the part 2
It’s probably liquid metal under the apu shorting the circuit to ground maybe check the resistance of the apu
Hey Alex, at what temperature and air speed do you set your hot hair station?
Might be more Liquid Metal somewhere perhaps under a chip.. Check for standby voltages.
You are 100% right sir.
Never give up Alex
great vids! question: how do you identify a broken component, like a cap, if nothing is written on it?
Most of the time donor board save the day
With great difficulty. If you cant get the schematics or a doner board.
I would replace or remove the 5 legged component bottom right of Panasonic chip and see if it releases the short.
I'm guessing 9:04 where the chip was is just solder reflecting or something? I'm guessing cause it looked dark before.
What if you cooled the board and try the current injection again. To give a wider difference in temperature to view.
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I thought that the thermal camera would detect the damaged component, but I was surprised that there are shorts that the thermal camera cannot detect, no matter how accurate it is. This is additional information that I will keep
A dead short has zero resistance. No resistance means no heat.
P=RI^2 so zero Ohms does not get hot even at 2A. I predict that the node's trace is shorted -- perhaps via liquid metal. It might be worthwhile to warm the entire board and then blow under chips with compressed air trying to remove any liquid metal.
Replace the HDMI port or the Panasonic encoder chip or both. Based on your video I would start with chip
Alex.... You're a beast :)
The sidelight for antyglare is so obvious that I didn't think it had to be invented by anyone. :)
5:37 Hahaha, I think you're referring to Sorin's video microscope No glare reflections. I see your name in the comments. Buy yea he's too late to the game.
E perché è troppo tardi per il gioco? Mi spieghi la battuta?
Did he do any follow up on this?
if 2A cannot be seen under thermal camera it usually a metal liquid spill under a chip or HDMI connector ??
I had seen this issue on a PS5 which was caused by Wireless Wifi Board IC Chip J20H100. Maybe that is a possibility to try out, for eliminating doubts? ..just putting my 5c.
Check for standby voltages
Check the south bridge IC i had few PS5 same issue i found short in one cap and i just replace the IC and everything goes back to normal. Good luck sir
why didnt you use flux when removing the panasonic chip?
yeah recently Sorin used the antiglare light , and didn't mention you although i am positive he watches you because he talked about the microscope and the flux previously
Is that a hotspot at 9:04 about a 1/3 from the top, in the middle? You see what looks like a hotspot when you bumped up the voltage.
I noticed that too, right around where the Panasonic chip used to be
I just wanted the post the same 😅
whats mainboard revision edm-020 or 030? first pay your attention to SSD controller, then could measure powering lines resistamce to APU.
Curious to hear the story on the Liquid Metal leak… if that is the culprit, surely the previous repair shop would’ve said something about it
If I don't have a donor board, what type of fuse should I put in the F7001 PS5 Slim?
ivan on pine hollow auto diagnostics gave your channel a plug today
Hi small solder pol can cost this short or coil also can teak lot of amper an the camera can not see the heat
im curious , why dont you inject voltage from the very start to know which parts is heating up ?
Did you ever manage to sort out this board?
Maybe the hdmi encoder chip and HDMI port both could have been the problem together?
I love having a go at fixing my own equipment, my success rate over the past 40 years is 0%
Have to love the copy cats and then they make money off of your concept. I’m glad you said something. They are the same ones that say “World Record of…” I don’t believe in “world records” because chances are, someone else did it at a faster rate but it wasn’t captured on video.
could be an ac signal from a failed dc source leaking to ground through a capacitor.
Maybe there's some liquid metal under the small IC
Hello my friend. I watch your videos carefully. I think it will be very useful if you show the measuring instrument in a part of the screen.
hello need your help I bought a ps5 for repair with strange symptoms the image blinks and the sound crackles and does not always start the system has 2 seconds of blood I made a bios backup the motherboard is EDM-010 console model CFI-1016A I now have no voltage 3.3V you had after hearing the signal and I had no voltage?
The fluctuation is strange. It's like a cap is charging from the small current from the meter, then discharging and cycling. More strange that the earth side does it.
Thank god Alex invented the anti glare light - just kidding !!!
The cap you removed is intermittent. Reading Short and open. 10 mfd cap you always change..
My wife likes big heat transfer
Board need bath of ultrasonic cleaning to get rid of liquid metal completely
Very interesting that it's a Sony product with a Panasonic component.
The NF microscope package along with the anti glare light is the bomb. I have them and love it!
Are you shipping your products to Poland? :D
Nice try. Love to see videos like this
Maybe liquid metal leaked under protection cover
Heat spot @9:26 ?
3:37 Sony use Panasonic chipsets. How cool is that? 😎
The infamous beep on beep off. So many repair channels have been defeated by The fault. Mainly because it could be a lot of things. Normally it's just liquid metal underneath something but who's going to spin the time to take everything off.
You are also the first to start using thermal camera for finding shorts, and everyone else acts like they found it
I still remember the video 2017. I had few subscribers and new to TH-cam. th-cam.com/video/Cx81ot6PiUY/w-d-xo.html Everyone else followed after that date. Factories started to produce the mini thermal cameras to find short circuits.
The FLIR Lepton was the first cost-effective IR module I was aware of for makers and hobbyists. It's been so awesome to see the technology gain popularity!
If you put more current into the short, you will eventually see it on the thermal cam. Might be on an internal layer so it's slow to warm up on the surface.
I am more interested in the amps being consumed in the short since Alex is only showing the volts.
Also 1 volt could warm anything.
did you manage to find a fix?
Q = mc∆t. The mass matters when transferring heat, indeed. But also the delta temperature matters. So, 20,000 degrees difference can compensate a lighter mass 😊
I am in complete agreement with your statement. From my perspective, it appears that you were among the first, if not the very first, to introduce and promote the concept of anti-glare lighting in your industry. Unless someone can provide evidence of an earlier video discussing the same topic and its properties, the answer seems quite straightforward. Although you may not be pursuing patents for these ideas, the significance lies in recognition, and without a doubt, you have earned it.
It's genuinely remarkable that no one else in the field seems to be addressing the glare issue. Whenever I conduct a Google search or seek solutions on TH-cam, your channel consistently emerges as the go-to source for guidance on this matter.
As previously mentioned, your contribution to the field holds immeasurable value. While I invest just a few minutes in composing these messages, you have dedicated countless years to consistently sharing your expertise, much like an exceptional educator.
I want to emphasize that our discussion pertains to the TH-cam channel, Northridge Fix, which also operates a microsoldering repair business and has recently posted a video on anti-glare lighting. Your insights and dedication are truly commendable, and I am honored to engage in this conversation.
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@@cloud1930 I will write that one down for sure ;-)
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My PS3 did this. Infact I might send it to Alex
When I bought my microscope it was glaringly obvious that the ring light needed to go. Pun intended :)
I watch your channel everyday. You do some impressive work, but what about schematics? I have not seen use
I suffer from a small tip 😂😂😂
Think it needs a new motherboard 😊
Northridge I want to ask you that can we use water for cleaning mother board I mean I want to wash my PS4 mother board can we?
Don't even think unless you don't want that device anymore.
@@yummy_blueberry thank you very much
So the alcohol is the best option for cleaning purpose.
You can use Isopropyl Alcohol or you can use MBC(mother board cleaner if Isopropyl Alcohol isn't available. I mentioned second item because in some countries you can't get Isopropyl Alcohol with ease).
diodes?
So I have the same Problem in my ps5 it beeps and the light turns on but shuts down and I had took it already to a repair show and they said it's the motherboard but I don't believe them
Was this shop the coder3??🤣