Not sure if you did it yet but Im going to chime in here. You know thats a touchy situation, because the number one rule is to protect the coins patina, and to have it lightened or removed is a controversial subject, I honed my skills to project the coins integral patina, but if I was doing it, now only take this as my opinion, and if you decide to use this method; I am not responsible for any damage to your coin or anyones coin reading this... Ok, now if it was my coin, I would place the coin in a vinegar, salt, and baking powder solution, the ratio is 1/2 cup of hot water, 1/2 cup vinegar, and 1 TBS of baking powder, and 1tsp of non iodized salt, put in to a small to medium plastic tub or glass jar (microwave safe) place all liquids in and microwave for 1-2mins until hot, then dissolve salt and baking powder; it will fizz but stir down, then place your coin in and watch it like a hawk, until it lightens up to where you like it. (remember once you start you cant go back) now I cant tell you how long so like I said you will have to watch it, and remove it and rinse in water. Good luck
Be very very careful with copper. If copper turns pink your using the wrong kind of solvent. Stay away from Brasso, TarnX, jewelluster, or Ezest. Only use "Coin Conditioner" "Coin Care" or "Blue Ribbon Coin Conditioner". The others will strip the surface, the ones I mentioned merely strip debris.
I just recently have gotten into collecting coins. I saw this video and tried looking up the Blue Ribbon coin conditioner you were using. I couldn't find it, however there is a product called Classic Coin Conditioner that has taken it's place. Have you ever used this product and if so would you recommend it or something else for copper coins? Thank you for your time and very informative video. Have a great day.
I have not used classic coin conditioner. Blue ribbon is no longer made and it's difficult to get but it is high quality stuff. Generally runs about $200 a bottle on eBay when it comes up for auction sales. The best substitute that I like is "Coin Care" which is sold at Wizard Coin supply. Or you can look it up on ebay as well as other distributors may have it.
Great question! A copper coin should receive fresh oil every 5-10 years depending on how it is stored. If it is encapsulated in a slab, it will likely hold out longer. If it is in a soft flip it may start to gunk up again in a months time. Blue ribbon is a two part chemical. It first removes debris and it second lays a layer of lubricant to protect the surfaces from corrosion. Anything one can do to prevent that lubricant from fully drying up is generally good. But the bottom line is, no storage method is perfect. The oils from fingers. little microscopic silicate and sulfide residues and mineral deposits unseen to the eye will start to grow a little a bit. This is the best way I can explain it without consulting a scientist to make sure I'm using the right verbiage. But yes, this won't last a lifetime. One needs to monitor the condition. Glossy is good, but when it turns to a dull film or a thin layer of what looks like condensation it's probably time to hit it with a q tip and a little more oil or some sort.
Sorry yes this is a very good suggestion. I recorded this video long ago before I really had invested anything into my TH-cam channel. I plan to re record this entire process and touch on some points that need better coverage. But for right now it's hard to take it down because it gets so many views and I'd rather have people learn something and now brasso their coins orange
I found a 1942 in circulation in really bad shape it’s one of the few times I’ve used vinegar I’m not sure if it was a good idea but at least now I can see the coin and it’s details it wasn’t a very strong clean.
Will the coin clean liquid work on older coppers found metal detecting that aren’t as clean and pretty as the one you show? I have several I would like to save but have no idea how to do so. Thanks
Hello sir, sorry I am late to respond to this. What I would recommend for coins dug into the ground is an ultrasonic cleaner. These can be purchased pretty cheap from online retailers. Blue ribbon and. O coin care are not going to be strong enough for ground dug copper. You can also try using porcupine quills to pick off dirt and verdigris. They are not sharp enough to scratch the copper but they are sharp enough to remove debris. You can buy them on eBay.
Allliant chemical still has 1-1-1 tce for $99 a gallon plus shipping. Experimenting with various oils and preservative metals or micro crystaline wax, would probably get you the exact result you want as a professional.
Professional restorer of coins, all you do is whips blue ribbon on them, save money just use transmission fluid in them it’s the same as blue ribbon is made from, transmission fluid and actions mixed together that’s all it is
Trichlorethylene (very nearly the same as Trichloriethane) was the forerunner to today's brake parts cleaner. Used to get gallons and gallons of it, cheap, for cleaning automotive parts. Trichlorethylene evaporates very FAST and maybe could cause cancer ;-0)
Its a substance called Blue Ribbon Coin Conditioner. Its a touchy subject because the substance is no longer made any longer and nothing quite compares to it. The ingredients aren't known for sure, it remains somewhat a mystery but most people think it is combination of a refrigerant chemical, paint thinner, and mineral oil. In particular one of these substances is no longer legal to produce. These bottles general run $200-250 on eBay. They aren't cheaper, but they will last awhile.
Well two things, this turned out not to be my best result because I was trying to record and conserve at the same time. Normally I'm a little more focused, careful, and I be mindful of not making it look too splotchy and oily. Secondly, unfourtunately when it comes to copper coins copper unlike silver is very reactive to environmental effects. In order to keep these coins around for the next generation to enjoy the need to go through a process of conservation so they aren't lost to the elements.
Definitely not a good idea to rub anything. That will break the luster bands and make it look polished, that is the wrong look in the mainstream market.
I have a copper coin that it so dark you can't see the detail. Is there some sort of product that I could use to lighten it?
Not sure if you did it yet but Im going to chime in here. You know thats a touchy situation, because the number one rule is to protect the coins patina, and to have it lightened or removed is a controversial subject, I honed my skills to project the coins integral patina, but if I was doing it, now only take this as my opinion, and if you decide to use this method; I am not responsible for any damage to your coin or anyones coin reading this...
Ok, now if it was my coin, I would place the coin in a vinegar, salt, and baking powder solution, the ratio is 1/2 cup of hot water, 1/2 cup vinegar, and 1 TBS of baking powder, and 1tsp of non iodized salt, put in to a small to medium plastic tub or glass jar (microwave safe) place all liquids in and microwave for 1-2mins until hot, then dissolve salt and baking powder; it will fizz but stir down, then place your coin in and watch it like a hawk, until it lightens up to where you like it. (remember once you start you cant go back) now I cant tell you how long so like I said you will have to watch it, and remove it and rinse in water. Good luck
What happens when you send this coin to PCGS? Do they send it back to you saying it was cleaned or is there no sign of any cleaning?
Pcgs uses acetone to clean coins.
@@66bigbuds what do they apply after using acetone?
@@shiyraha5249 water
Ive tried this on copper and some copper turns blue a pink! Have you seen anything like it? Usually happens on rb pennys
Be very very careful with copper. If copper turns pink your using the wrong kind of solvent. Stay away from Brasso, TarnX, jewelluster, or Ezest. Only use "Coin Conditioner" "Coin Care" or "Blue Ribbon Coin Conditioner". The others will strip the surface, the ones I mentioned merely strip debris.
@@devastator665 yes I used coin care not ezest or anything like that
Dude, get your camera work under control! It’s noisy and distracting.
Will be re-recording this video for this reason and others.
I just recently have gotten into collecting coins. I saw this video and tried looking up the Blue Ribbon coin conditioner you were using. I couldn't find it, however there is a product called Classic Coin Conditioner that has taken it's place. Have you ever used this product and if so would you recommend it or something else for copper coins? Thank you for your time and very informative video. Have a great day.
I have not used classic coin conditioner. Blue ribbon is no longer made and it's difficult to get but it is high quality stuff. Generally runs about $200 a bottle on eBay when it comes up for auction sales. The best substitute that I like is "Coin Care" which is sold at Wizard Coin supply. Or you can look it up on ebay as well as other distributors may have it.
@@devastator665 thank you sir.
The active ingredient in blue ribbon destroys the Earth's Ozone. Probably why it was discontinued.
Does this application dry hard over time -- like a real layer or one wipe after 9 months and it wipes off ??
Great question! A copper coin should receive fresh oil every 5-10 years depending on how it is stored. If it is encapsulated in a slab, it will likely hold out longer. If it is in a soft flip it may start to gunk up again in a months time. Blue ribbon is a two part chemical. It first removes debris and it second lays a layer of lubricant to protect the surfaces from corrosion. Anything one can do to prevent that lubricant from fully drying up is generally good. But the bottom line is, no storage method is perfect. The oils from fingers. little microscopic silicate and sulfide residues and mineral deposits unseen to the eye will start to grow a little a bit. This is the best way I can explain it without consulting a scientist to make sure I'm using the right verbiage. But yes, this won't last a lifetime. One needs to monitor the condition. Glossy is good, but when it turns to a dull film or a thin layer of what looks like condensation it's probably time to hit it with a q tip and a little more oil or some sort.
I would invest in a camera tripod...
Sorry yes this is a very good suggestion. I recorded this video long ago before I really had invested anything into my TH-cam channel. I plan to re record this entire process and touch on some points that need better coverage. But for right now it's hard to take it down because it gets so many views and I'd rather have people learn something and now brasso their coins orange
I found a 1942 in circulation in really bad shape it’s one of the few times I’ve used vinegar I’m not sure if it was a good idea but at least now I can see the coin and it’s details it wasn’t a very strong clean.
Will the coin clean liquid work on older coppers found metal detecting that aren’t as clean and pretty as the one you show? I have several I would like to save but have no idea how to do so. Thanks
Hello sir, sorry I am late to respond to this. What I would recommend for coins dug into the ground is an ultrasonic cleaner. These can be purchased pretty cheap from online retailers. Blue ribbon and. O coin care are not going to be strong enough for ground dug copper. You can also try using porcupine quills to pick off dirt and verdigris. They are not sharp enough to scratch the copper but they are sharp enough to remove debris. You can buy them on eBay.
Sam Shafer I never would have thought of porcupine quills. Thanks for the ideas
Wouldn't some sort of soft fabric be better than Q-tip?
Allliant chemical still has 1-1-1 tce for $99 a gallon plus shipping. Experimenting with various oils and preservative metals or micro crystaline wax, would probably get you the exact result you want as a professional.
Thanks, good info.
Glad it was helpful!
VERDI-CARE™ FTW! You didn't even mention it.
Professional restorer of coins, all you do is whips blue ribbon on them, save money just use transmission fluid in them it’s the same as blue ribbon is made from, transmission fluid and actions mixed together that’s all it is
Trichlorethylene (very nearly the same as Trichloriethane) was the forerunner to today's brake parts cleaner. Used to get gallons and gallons of it, cheap, for cleaning automotive parts.
Trichlorethylene evaporates very FAST and maybe could cause cancer ;-0)
Really appreciate this info!
It would have been helpful to give us the ingredients of the mystery solvent you used.
Its a substance called Blue Ribbon Coin Conditioner. Its a touchy subject because the substance is no longer made any longer and nothing quite compares to it. The ingredients aren't known for sure, it remains somewhat a mystery but most people think it is combination of a refrigerant chemical, paint thinner, and mineral oil. In particular one of these substances is no longer legal to produce. These bottles general run $200-250 on eBay. They aren't cheaper, but they will last awhile.
I liked it better before you cleaned the coin.
Well two things, this turned out not to be my best result because I was trying to record and conserve at the same time. Normally I'm a little more focused, careful, and I be mindful of not making it look too splotchy and oily. Secondly, unfourtunately when it comes to copper coins copper unlike silver is very reactive to environmental effects. In order to keep these coins around for the next generation to enjoy the need to go through a process of conservation so they aren't lost to the elements.
What about when they have that damn green and Black on them that shit kill's coins and Wii spread out to other Coins
I'm sure you just destroy the value of this coin by doing that. Under a microscope you will see the damage you have done.
This is false information unfourtunately. A cotton swab does not leave hairlines unless it is pressed extremely rapidly and hard into the surface.
Totally untrue Blue Ribbon is the gold standard. Just be sure to go easy with q tip. PNG dealer and EAC member.
Never clean your coins
Dip it in Tarn-X then rub it down with a sunshine cloth make it shine
Definitely not a good idea to rub anything. That will break the luster bands and make it look polished, that is the wrong look in the mainstream market.