Jamie being salty at the end was the best, and I think that effort put into a dish shouldn't be wasted, but if a time limit is part of a competition, it should disqualify anyone over said time limit
Yeah, this is why I despise the time limit bs. Good food can take time. Let everyone in the kitchen take their time with stuff. Instead we end up with this rigmarole that is absolutely pointless and only leads to anger and salt in the comments.
Barry should finish his dish, they should eat it so the food doesn't go to waste, and then he should be disqualified at the end because he went over time.
@@writershard5065 well....but where do you draw the line then?? the Time limits are usually enough to make a decent dish if you are not fucking around. Managing your time and multitasking are vital kitchen skills and should go into judging 100%. not to mention that Barry could have finished in time if he had "wanted to" but chose to be cocky at the start instead
Can't argue against Jamie here, he lost a battle because his opponent got to ignore a limitation he had to deal with. With that being said, salty Jamie makes for amazing footage
I cant say I agree. The time limits they impose are just for artificial drama that truly adds nothing else to the video. Barry's recipe was better, therefore he wins. Would happily eat either one.
@@davidcampbell9981 they're just there for artificial drama, they also define what type of dish to serve. If you know that you have an hour worth of time, you won't start a two hour dish, even if it's the better recipe.
Definitely think Jaimie should get a “Time management” badge, or even extra time on the next battle. Maybe he gets as much extra time as Barry took in finishing his dish?
ye he should get some badge. Or something. Because if we say Barry dish is more tasty overall, well.... Jamie would have more tasty dish too because if he spent all that extra time doing more work on crumble etc. it would be more tasty.
Maybe there should be penalty badges... Instead of simply negating a badge that was earned previously, the penalty badge would count as a -1 regardless of whether or not there was a badge in a similar category already. In the end, they'd simply subtract the bad badge count from the good badge count. 🤔
I think that Jamie deserves a time management badge in reparation. The food has to come out in a reasonable time and he dealt with the constraints in a way that Barry failed at. He wasn't a few seconds over he was WAY over time.
Fully agree! There has to be either a penalty for failing the time limit or a consolation prize for someone who did it in the time but didn't edge the other out on flavor. A badge sounds like a sensible way to go.
All of this! It wasn't just plating, Barry still had an awful lot of preparation and cooking to do after the time was over. The LEAST he had to do was serve some amazing food, and that shouldn't be enough for him to win the battle.
As much as I absolutely love to see James, it's a bit unfair that Mike previously lost a battle because he went over time, but Barry won regardless of going over time. The rules should be clear and universely applied
I mean it was also unfair when Mike won a battle cause of a Chicken Curry that he did not make despite both Jamie and Barry making their "leftovers" from scratch
I've stood up for Baz before when I felt he got unfairly judged, however, being the benefactor of unfairness doesn't make it right. Jamie stuck to the time limit, he should've won by default.
@@christopheralthouse6378 I completely agree, especially as James was actively warning him that he wasn't going to have the time. Barry really should have had the choice between serving what he had or continuing to cook but forfeiting the match. I'm also not convinced he would have lost if he had served immediately after his beef was decanted.
James, no. This reminds me of the Normals budget/badge battle where Mike made sausage roll and went over his time. Ben was very open in saying that he would have won if he hadn't gone over the time.
@@khaldrakon James is a guest. Not a regular. Guests should be allowed to bend the rules a little bit. After all, the guest is correct over the regular
@@khaldrakon That's... stupid. How do you know he didn't deduct score from it? From what it sounded like, Jamies just wasn't as good. The taste is the most important part hands down, sure the time limit should still be a factor. But if Barry's dish was just that much better than Jamies in taste then a time penalty still wasn't enough to over take it. It still would have won.
I know you're used to judging colder food with the amount of time it takes to setup for the glamour shots but you've gotta give Jamie some credit there. His mash was sitting there for at least 10-20 minutes waiting for Barry to finish his dish. Jamie finished on time and definitely deserves the win or at the very least a badge for being able to finish his on time.
To be fair, Jamie did hit James in the balls with a sizeable brass bell once, causing James to double over in pain. (Jamie did it deliberately just to be funny.) Then, Jamie declared Ben the winner (...and James the loser) of that cooking battle. I'm okay with back-stabby-ness...it's got reasons.
James "I know this decision will be controversial for either choice" Me - no it isn't, it's the most cut and dry battle yet, James is just being kind. James "I chose Barry" Me - YOU WHAT!?! HE DIDN'T EVEN FINISH! WHERE'S... THE DISH!??
Oooh is that the SortedFood version of the Taste It Now Make It segment from Hell's Kitchen? I am actually going to be excited to see that challenge play out or even given a twist in SortedFood fashion!
I wish we knew HOW MUCH extra time Barry needed. It felt like he took a whole like extra 20 min or so. If it was an extra like 2 minutes to fry the taco, that's more understandable. But yeah, Jamie took the time limit into account and finished his dish in the tune allotted, he either deserved the win, or as someone in another comment suggested, give Jamie a time management badge.
He had time to; Release the steam from the cooker. Dice the beef into 1 inch cubes. Throw it into a pot to stew it. Explain what he was doing (while not multitasking) Fry off his tortillas. Add cheese. Flip and brush them. Plate and garnish. All as slowly and pretentiously as possible. Barry had time to completely clear down and then start messing with the lights and calling his wife. I'd estimate 20 minutes easy.
James has set a DANGEROUS precedent. Either Jamie gets to pull an extra time bonus out in some battle, or he needs to get some compensatory badge. Otherwise challenge rules are out the window!
I mean, why is there a time limit at all, really? It's always seemed unnecessary and detrimental to... everything. Except the few things where it's very deliberate, like those videos where they had exactly enough time to cook a soecific dish, etc
In my opinion Baz did not win this battle. He went over the time and should have been disqualified. However my family is very forgiving and if I go 15 min past dinner time they are still ok with it as long as it tastes good. :-)
James said the beef needed a touch more time, but Jamie’s was perfectly cooked. Is it not a beef badge that was up for grabs? Regardless of whether Barry’s tasted nicer, Jamie cooked the beef better?
I guess the argument could be that even though it is a beef badge, and the beef might have needed more time, the dish overall highlighted the beef better and was an overall better beef dish?
@@praymedis350 sure, but the argument that is made here still holds true. If you set certain requirements and you don't follow all of them, it should disqualify or at least impact your overall score. It's like using salmon instead of beef and saying "but it's cooked better and the dish is overall tastier" - yeah, but it's also salmon and not beef.
But Barry's additional time wasn't used to entirely recreate a component of his dish to act as a saving grace but instead solely finish the pressure cooker's set timer to finish up and plate.
@@Kkarinaama Yes, instead Barry needed significantly more time to finish a core component of his dish because his time management was so poor that he couldn't get it into the pressure cooker before Jamie's was already in for 20 minutes.
I have to side with Jamie on this one, the time limit has to play a bigger factor in the judging, The fact that this was a beef battle and that was what Barry was predominantly waiting on and according James himself said the beef should have been cooked slightly longer. Knowing the cut of beef your cooking needs to come into account as it is a Beef badge. Barry could of chosen a different cut of Beef that would of cooked faster, I understand how flavourful beef ribs are but they also take longer to cook than many other cuts of beef. Jamie on the other hand choose to use beef cheeks, a cut of beef that has great flavour but could still be cooked in the time limit. To some it up Jamie should of won as it appeared that he knew his cut of beef better, or in the very least Jamie should also be given his Beef badge.
I agree 100% He could have cut the beef into smaller pieces to cook faster and the beef wasn't even the only issue, the so called "tortillas" weren't even round or cooked/ready, he lost all the way around. James really made a huge mistake here.
Said it better than I could have. I completely agree, as much as I love James, he needed to take the time and ingredient choices more into account than he did.
THIS IS WHAT I CAME HERE TO SCREAM! THANK YOU, KIND COMMENTER!! Shoulda gone to Jamie, it was perfectly cooked and within the time limit. If Barry was gonna go over anyway, why not just let him push til his was perfectly cooked? Glad to know I’m not the only one here who gives a damn about the rules. *insert John Goodman from The Big Lebowski gif here*
For an ‘Ultimate beef battle’ Barry had no beef ready in the time given! There needs to be a penalty or there is no point of a timed trial! I will say Barry’s finished dish did look amazing and I’ve gotta try it, but I’m still gonna need justice for Jamie because he was cheated by a cheater.
I didn’t get to taste it, so I can’t argue with the decision of the better dish, however I definitely feel that given how far Barry went over, Jaime should’ve won. I think a fun compensation could be the two of them battling again, but give Jaime the amount of time Barry went over as extra time. Also, give the man a time management badge!! Btw, this comes from someone who’s favored Barry over the others since I first discovered this channel a few years ago.
Jamie was in the right. Imagine if Barry served what was prepared at the end of the time, it would have been just the garnishes and dry tortillas. On that merit, Barry would have lost the beef battle because he had no beef to serve.
Yes, I'm afraid I have to agree. :) I mean, taste is important, but it can't be everything... Otherwise, someone could just prepare an amazing chicken dish and win, even though it's a beef battle... "Where's the beef?" --James, misquoted 😆 Having said all of that, I will be low-key disappointed in Barry's trolling skills if he doesn't double down and intentionally rub this one in during future episodes... "Jamie, beef's supposed to be your specialty... but remember how I beat you that one time in an ultimate beef battle?" 😆 I'll also be low key disappointed in Ben if he doesn't have something to say about this at some point whenever he gets back from his travels!
On the other side he agreed to said deadline so is totally unacceptable giving him more time, specially if they are trying to see who is more suitable to be a chef extra time is not a luxury they have.
Excellently put. 👍 As someone who has had the misfortune of botching steps and ending up in the kitchen ludicrously late into the evening, I can sympathize with Barry and appreciate the recognition that his dish turned out well despite the time... But I fully agree with you that if the time limit is there, it should matter. ⏲
Jaimie : perfectly cooked beef, made his dish in the time limit Barry : Slightly underdone beef despite no time limit, took his time after the time limit was off. James : "Both decisions would be controversial!" Excuse me how Jaimie winning would be controversial since he respected the time limit, and the beef was done well? Because it isn't Barry? That's just not fair.
Because of the fact that Jamie won of a technicality rather than legitimately. Sure you can argue as much as you want that Barry cooked over the time limit but disquaifying him over the beef would mean that Jamie won because his opponent couldn't manage their time. Not based on food.
@@muchluck7981, it's both. In a professional environment if you can't serve up excellent food in a timely manner you won't last long. To my mind, well cooked beef served 30 minutes sooner wins over slightly undercooked beef served 30 minutes later. Not fair, disappointed in James, especially since he had ONE tiny criticizom of the dish.
@@thesupercoach It would mean Jamie won because he met a time limit. Not because his beef dish tasted the best. Time should be a factor yes but if you lost despite meeting the time limit then it's a half victory in my honest opinion. You won the competetion but didn't win the chef's heart. That's what I see it as. Basically the plot of Rocky
@@muchluck7981 no shit he won. If I sit a test and get a really high score because I take twice as long as the other test takers, is it fair to say I won? No. When there's a time limit, if you fail to meet it, then you fail. If the challenge had been to produce a dish at some stage that day then Jamie probably loses, but that wasn't the challenge.
For Barry to redeem himself for the poor time management, he should have to finish a food challenge in under the required time, to show that he can do proper time management. Either that or just ban him from getting the TM badge.
Or like someone else suggested: Introduce a 'penalty badge', which counts as negative one badge, showing his shortcomings in this battle the same way that normal badges showcase successes.
Jaime deserves a time management badge for this! Even taking into account the time when he'd let James step in for him and then completing his dish on time. Barry's dish looked great, but in the context of the battle, Jaime should've won.
@@KarinIris123 Yes, he had. An he didn't won that challange. Just as he didin't won with lava cake when he missed the time limit. And just as Mike, when he was over time (but I forgot in what battle).
@@freezemypath4 true. however this was a beef challenge. barry had no beef ready within the time limit. and when it was done, it was a little undercooked as james said. where jamie had perfectly cooked beef. therefor, even ignoring the time limit, jamie should have won either way since his beef was actually cooked properly
Looking at this a year later... Jamie's palate is knockout, and he really has the ability to step out of his comfort zone and chef up and command the others as cooks when he needs to. On the other hand, on this week's video (first week Jan 2023), he fried chorizo and sliced a bun for a Tapas challenge. The key phrase is definitely "when he wants to be".
@@mwilson5449 High five for the late to the party gang! I don't think Jamie even counts as a normal anymore. He's more skilled than most cooks in restaurants outside of his adhd when using a knife.
Jammie was robbed of the win! As he said “a time limit is a time limit” Barry should of served with no beef! Side question, how much extra time did Barry need? Loving seeing James back again!
Both dishes looked amazing but Jamie did deserve the win here, considering that he planned accordingly and had his dish ready in the alotted time. Since Badges are still on the line, I think Jamie should get a "Time Management" badge or at least rescind Barry's badge (if he has one). Nevertheless, great job to both :)
A rule is a rule. Mike lost a battle previously due to him running over the time limit. Although Barry's finished dish was better. Barry should suffer some penalty. Maybe a loss of a time management badge (if he has one)
I agree that Baz's dish is definitely the one I'd prefer, but Jamie has a point "whats the point of having a time limit if youre gonna ignore the time limit"
The only part that bugs me about the overtime ( honestly dont know how egregious it was just what we could see in the video) is that the reason James said it won was it was a little bit more delicious rather than stand out, how much better would Jamies dish had been if it wasn't sitting and waiting for Barrys or if Jamie had the extra time to push his dish further.
Barry's dish looked incredible. I would be immensely happy to be able to eat it. That being said, if it were to happen in a restaurant, would i be alright waiting the extra however long it took to complete the dish? Just saying, if it took like an extra 30-45 minutes, i'd be out the door at that point Barry definitely should not have won that. If ignoring the time limit is a thing, and the only important aspect is the taste, whats stopping somebody from spending hours smoking a prime cut of meat then serving that? Plus, if this sort of thing is rewarded instead of being punished, wont others do the same in the future? I think that should be avoided imo
This destroys any meaning or tension buildup you may get from time calls. 5 minutes left doesn't mean anything if one cook is just allowed to continue while the others present what they could. No tension, no penalty. No rush. Take your time Jamie and Mike, because clearly it no longer matters.
While I absolutely adore Barry, he didn't deserve to win. There was a time limit and Barry didn't stick to it. Jamie took the limit in consideration and did a bang up job. Also, how does a "more than edible" beef dish win over a perfectly made beef dish? Barry's badge should be rescinded and/or Jamie should be allowed to have the extra allotted time in his next battle. With that said, I'd want to try the tacos!
Both dishes looked absolutely fantastic, but I think Jamie deserved the win. Plus, in the original lava cake battle, he ran out of time with his puddle cake and he wasn’t given any more time… By that logic, Barry exceeding the time limit means he should’ve only served up what he had.
same when he made a poke bowl he used extra time but was instantly disqualified. Same thing happened with Mike in one of those timed battles over time and was disqualified because of it.
Oh, James. I have missed you. However, you REALLY forked up. Jamie would have had to seriously screw up for Barry to earn the win. The time limit is part of the challenge!
Barry should have lost automatically for not having a dish in the allotted time. I wish James have Jamie the win because of that, and then followed it up with “but the tastiest dish was Barry’s”
eh i don't think the time should be the end-all of the battles. i actually prefer it when they recognize that sometimes, a meal is worth waiting for. i do think that means barry shouldn't have gotten the badge(didn't ask james to step in when he should have), but the better dish was still barry's.
@@Babe-vi6cv the better dish was Barry’s but there’s waiting a little longer and then there’s waiting too long On top of that Jamie’s was getting colder and less fresh while Barry got his completely fresh
Yeah, Barry went WAY over the "time limit" it wasn't even by a couple of minutes and just put the beef that went over time on a plate, he still had to do a lot more other than wait the pressure cooker timer. OK that you try his dish BUT not ok that he still qualified as a "contender". BTW Jamie calling Barry's wife was hilarious as heck....LOL! 😀
I'm going to say it. Jamie was robbed! If he'd had another 10 minutes + he could've done the bits that James said were missing. Barry should've forfeited any win.
I met James at work today, he came in for lunch and he was very nice when I went over to gush at him. It was one of the best things that's happened to me in a long time! Thank you for being so nice James!!
Yay! So glad James has been coming back for a couple videos! I also am constantly learning from you guys. I actually cooked a full meal for my family out of a recipe book I had never used before. Cooking is not something I do often for lack of motivation and depression (causes me to not want to eat so why cook?). But you guys have given me the courage to cook more! Last night I cooked spinach mushroom and shrimp ligunu with a side of zucchini. Everyone really liked it! So thank you all and keep doing what your doing!!!
@@SortedFood Thank you so much! I will try! Now I just want to order more cookbooks especially ridiculous ones! THE OFFICAL OVERWATCH COOKBOOK HERE I COME! 😆 That should be one you guys review!
Absolutely unbelievable. I was so excited to see James back and then he comes in with just an abomination of a final judgement. Just further proof that the "chefs" are biased against Jamie, the resident Everyman in the group.
Gotta be real, Barry's cockiness in timed battles has so often backfired, and other than taking the piss out of him, I don't feel like he's generally been penalized for it in the judgment. Frankly, I would never have given him the win, as delicious as his tacos looked. He knew the conditions walking into this and still failed to meet a critical one.
@@KippDotter Maybe there's a reason for that? :p No diss against his recipes, but Barry's execution in the battles generally comes up short because of his tendency to waste time and rush himself toward the end.
I'm with Jamie, what is the point of having a time limit if you're not going to use it? He should of had to open the pressure cooker ahead of time and go from there.
I partly disagree. When there is a time limit, the result plated when the time is up should be judged. As Barry had a clean plate, the win should go to Jamie. As I really dislike food waste, it would be Ok for me to finish the dish exceeding the time limit (i. e. out of the competition), plate it and enjoy it. It makes no sense to me to waste the food for the sake of a time limit.
@@hefudgedafrog Time managment is part of the challenge. When the goal is to have a plated dish after the time is up, it is fair to judge what is on the plate. An empty plate is not a likely winner. If the competitor decides to open the cooker sooner to get a dish on the plate, it´s fine. Just don´t interfere with his time managment. When the time is up, the race is run.
James I love having you back but this is the second time you’ve awarded Barry something undeserved, a time limit is a time limit! (The first was the merengue badge, and to be fair I only think Mike deserved half a badge on that)
tbh...I think Barry should have just been disqualified because in any FAIR competition if you don't have it on the plate in the time limit you don't get to serve it. And it wasn't just a few seconds over. It was a WHOLE assembly of the dish and more cook time. Very valid point of "What's the point of a time limit if you're going to ignore the time limit?!"
If you go back to the Ultimate Seafood Battle (3 way not the one with just Barry and Jamie), Jamie gets extra time due to screwing up his rice. So he gets that extra time to cook new rice and to assemble his dish.
@@Ayumikii quite simply as extra challenge but things never go to plan. Take for instance the Cooking to the beat recipe challenge where Jamie and Kiko Bun where challenged to cook a dish and prepare a pina colada within 1hr. They took 1hr 38mins and as Jamie said "what's time when you are having fun"
@@michaelbonis769 at this point I feel like they should just throw the time limit out of the window...instead of making it a timed battle this is just, an ingredient challenge....
@@Ayumikii exactly! Abolish the time limit, unless it's something that deliberately needs a time limit (pass it on, etc), as all it adds in the normal course of things is add unnecessary drama
Even if you ignore the time limit debacle, it was a BEEF battle and James stated clearly that Jamie's beef was cooked perfectly and Barry's was a little underdone. No way does Barry deserve this - Jamie didn't get extra time when his lava cake wasn't ready in time, Barry should relinquish this win if he had any sense of honour. Very disappointed with James here.
@@chainsawpanda2 Can't remember but he was given the opportunity for extra time. Mike has had something similar. Whether they used their extra time effectively or not is broadly irrelevant
Check out the subtitles for that, the auto-generator thinks he said "bring down" ⁉ How difficult would it be to improve the quality of the subtitles? Some channels go to town, I've been quite spoiled by "Critical Role" who had a team of volunteers handcrafting them❣
As an Indonesian, I can guarantee that's not rendang. That's plum curry beef cheeks. Rendang has a whole different colour and texture and is a whole lot spicier.
I think everyone arguing that it was unfair has to realize. It's fun. They're friends having fun with food. It's not gonna hurt anyone if there is a bad badge distribution a few times. It's all for the love of making delicious food and making good videos for people to enjoy. So do just that, relax and enjoy.
No no no no. Jamie's beef was cooked perfectly. And, he got it all done within the time limit. Clearly he won. I do not doubt the Barry's dish tasted wonderful, but James himself made the arguments for why Jamie won.
Honestly I think we've moved past the point that the guys should get a pass for not completing things in the time limit. It was fine when the "normals" were still normal, but the ultimate battle format has been going on so long that there's no excuse aside really poor time management here. If you're now evaluating their skills, Barry needs to be penalized for his missteps. I think finishing after the time is up needs to be an automatic disqualification, or a rule that the dish MUST be served as-is when time is called. How is Barry's "win" here fair when he got so much more time than Jaime? How can you fairly judge two dishes when one has been sitting out getting cold while the other is served relatively fresh?
Yeah, Jamie's in the right here. It doesn't matter how good Barry's dish was, since Jamie was the only one to cook to the brief. A restaurant could serve the best food imaginable, but if you need to wait 90 minutes or two hours for it to arrive at your table, then that's pretty damning.
I get that, but if they let him finish and plate, and take the time into consideration, why shouldn't he have a chance to win? If it isn't an instant disqualification, shouldn't there still be an opportunity for Barry to win?
@@JB-mu6si No, IMO time limits should be respected or there is no longer any tension to the video. Barry should still finish the dish if not there is no longer a video but then he can know if he would have won or not based on his dish. But he should still lose,
@@JB-mu6si Cause whats the point of the timelimit if i can just ignore it like Barry did? If the task would be to cook a Dish with Beefribs and Jamie would do Porkribs would he then still have a chance to win?
@@martinchua9104 @Derkrieg1 I remember a Seafood battle between mike, barry and jamie where jamie was late aswell cause of his rice, and then it wasnt a problem so why all the fuss now over barry being late? Barry deserved the win and i'm happy for him #barryisbestnormal
Jamie deserved that win. Mike's gone over before and going over the time was the primary reason he lost. Jamie's right, what's the point of the timed challenge if one participant can just ignore the time limit and spend more time making the dish taste better. Bad precident. Should have tried Barry's dish with only the elements he finished in time. Then try his late beef entry after judging.
Jamie cooking in a restaurant: Happy customers eating good food after waiting a reasonable amount of time who recommended the restaurant to all of their friends. Barry cooking in a restaurant: Unhappy customers who waited too long for their food and complain to the wait staff (or just get up and leave) then don't recommend the restaurant to their friends.
Really James?! Jaime is absolutely the winner. Barry had no beef ready when the time limit was up and James even said it could use more time!! Ben needs to rescind Barry’s badge, again. 😂
@@AlecanderWatson he forgot to place his meat early. If you go back and watch .. you’ll see that Berry had time to place the meat first thing but he wasted some time talking and showing us the beautiful meat pieces
I feel like James was given extra time, he could make his dish better. You have to put in account time for that purpose as well. If Barry gets extra time to make his food taste better, but goes over the time, that penalty should apply to the food as well. That's my opinion at least.
All things considered, I do think the verdict should've been "Barry would have won if he'd finished in the time limit, but he didn't, so Jamie wins by default."
The best part of the whole video was James saying repeatedly to himself, "Just one day, gotta be nice." I was dying and can totally appreciate that. I'm that guy at work too.
Look, I might have not been there to taste the dish, but I feel like Jamie won this battle - not only because of the time but also based on James' comments? How does a beef that needs a longer cook wins a beef battle?! While he said Jamie's beef was perfectly cooked? Yeah, this was really not a fair win at all! And Barry should have been disqualified for going over the time limit, not just a couple minutes, but from the looks of it (with the jokes and what he still had to do) he went over the time a lot!
I imagine that Jamie was just making a lot of jokes about Barry going over the time limit. Could've have just been an extra 10-15 minutes. Clearly Barry won because his dish was just better tasting than Jamie's dish. Barry's beef could have been cooked longer and could have been softer, but the flavors were still there.
@@b4history32 10-15 minutes on an hour 30 or was it hour 40 minute competition is quite a lot. Based on an hour thirty thats an extra 1/6 time compared to Jamie and its a beef battle. If your beef isn't there then shouldnt win
@b4 history @@Piratemonkeyify yes, exactly - I dont mean I think he went over an hour or that long, just that it wasn’t a quick 5 min over the time. He had to wait for the pressure to go off (which they said in the video reviewing the pot that it takes a couple minutes), then cut the meat (which you can see he was no longer in a hurry), fry the tortilla and plate his dish. All together, Id say at least ten minutes? Probably closer to 15? The point is Jamie *had* time to make the jokes, even some that obviously went on to bloopers. Like I said, I can't judge on taste, only on what James said. This was a beef battle. Yes, obviously the flavor was there, Jamie and James even look a bit speechless at one point. But if cooking the beef correctly is not taken into consideration, or the time in a timed battle, then these types of videos are kind of pointless? Just have the boys make the dishes without the pressure, and just judge them on taste. lmao - sorry, I didnt mean to write a whole essay on this, it's not even that serious, but out of all battles Ive seen over many, many years, I think this one was probably one of the most unfair wins.
@@chaoticbells I mean, it makes sense. In a BEEF battle, Jamie's beef was done on time and spot on. How is it the one who's BEEF wasn't even done on time, and James himself admitted needed even more cooking time, the winner of the BEEF challenge that was under time constraints? It really does feel like a pity judging, and all that extra time, of course Jamie's wouldn't be as good, it had far too much time to cool down while Barry's was definitely still up at the proper temperature.
So, considering all that, for James to still pick Barry, his dish must have been exponentially better than Jamie's dish. That says more about Jamie than Barry doesn't it?
Jamie's high pitched melt down followed by "I thought I missed you" is perfect. You can see the steam coming out his ears
It mixes in quite well with the residual steam coming out of the pressure cooker that Barry released just a moment ago... 😆
That little “I’ve missed this”from James is just🥺
I see James, I click.
The “Back for one day, gotta be nice” mantra from James is amazing
Take a long deeeeeep breath.... you can do this! 💪
@@SortedFood since this comment on my view of the page appears directly after a bit of porn spam, it reads a little unfortunately ;-)
@@KimAndrewsbykimbo :S I see so many of those spams nowadays. I try to always report them.
That mantra is the most relatable thing for me [other than Barry] :')
Mantra was nice but I was waiting for a classic "Where's the dish?" from James. Perfect time to do it
Jamie being salty at the end was the best, and I think that effort put into a dish shouldn't be wasted, but if a time limit is part of a competition, it should disqualify anyone over said time limit
Yeah, this is why I despise the time limit bs. Good food can take time. Let everyone in the kitchen take their time with stuff. Instead we end up with this rigmarole that is absolutely pointless and only leads to anger and salt in the comments.
Barry should finish his dish, they should eat it so the food doesn't go to waste, and then he should be disqualified at the end because he went over time.
The time limits are always so dumb. Its just to add artificial drama.
@@StarkMaximum not disqualify outright.....but he only gets judged on whats on the plate when the bell rings
@@writershard5065 well....but where do you draw the line then?? the Time limits are usually enough to make a decent dish if you are not fucking around. Managing your time and multitasking are vital kitchen skills and should go into judging 100%.
not to mention that Barry could have finished in time if he had "wanted to" but chose to be cocky at the start instead
Can't argue against Jamie here, he lost a battle because his opponent got to ignore a limitation he had to deal with. With that being said, salty Jamie makes for amazing footage
I need to like this more than once, take every exclamation mark as a thumbs up!!!!!!!!!!😎
I cant say I agree. The time limits they impose are just for artificial drama that truly adds nothing else to the video. Barry's recipe was better, therefore he wins. Would happily eat either one.
Nah. The better dish won. Jamie wouldn't have won with a few extra minutes.
@@davidcampbell9981 except its not just artificial jamie lost the seafood battle for going over and mike lost another for going over
@@davidcampbell9981 they're just there for artificial drama, they also define what type of dish to serve. If you know that you have an hour worth of time, you won't start a two hour dish, even if it's the better recipe.
Of course Barry had more flavor. He spent a whole week finishing his dish.
HAHA 🤣 perfection
@@endybear3750 I know. There so annoying
@@endybear3750 I hope you guys reported them as well. Might help a little bit and at least I feel better after reporting those bots.
@@F13Helm not sure whether to report them as s3xual or just plain ads
@@StormCrusher94 i'd say report them as seggsual, it's probably higher on youtube's priority list than just ads
Definitely think Jaimie should get a “Time management” badge, or even extra time on the next battle. Maybe he gets as much extra time as Barry took in finishing his dish?
ye he should get some badge. Or something. Because if we say Barry dish is more tasty overall, well.... Jamie would have more tasty dish too because if he spent all that extra time doing more work on crumble etc. it would be more tasty.
I don't think James has the time to spend another week in the studio
Maybe there should be penalty badges... Instead of simply negating a badge that was earned previously, the penalty badge would count as a -1 regardless of whether or not there was a badge in a similar category already. In the end, they'd simply subtract the bad badge count from the good badge count. 🤔
I think that’s a really good idea - especially the giving Jamie extra next time. Or maybe Barry could have the time taken off next battle?
I like this idea. Or if Barry has any time-related badges, he should lose one.
I think that Jamie deserves a time management badge in reparation. The food has to come out in a reasonable time and he dealt with the constraints in a way that Barry failed at. He wasn't a few seconds over he was WAY over time.
Fully agree! There has to be either a penalty for failing the time limit or a consolation prize for someone who did it in the time but didn't edge the other out on flavor. A badge sounds like a sensible way to go.
I cannot support this comment enough. Sure Barry's tasted better but there has to be something for the superior time management on Jamie's part!
Fully agree. And if he spent all that time Barry was taking to actually finish, he would have more tasty dish too.
or perhaps barry have one taken away? Win this round but have that penalty
All of this! It wasn't just plating, Barry still had an awful lot of preparation and cooking to do after the time was over. The LEAST he had to do was serve some amazing food, and that shouldn't be enough for him to win the battle.
As much as I absolutely love to see James, it's a bit unfair that Mike previously lost a battle because he went over time, but Barry won regardless of going over time. The rules should be clear and universely applied
I mean it was also unfair when Mike won a battle cause of a Chicken Curry that he did not make despite both Jamie and Barry making their "leftovers" from scratch
I've stood up for Baz before when I felt he got unfairly judged, however, being the benefactor of unfairness doesn't make it right. Jamie stuck to the time limit, he should've won by default.
EXACTLY! Also, how did I not watch this one almost a year ago?
@@christopheralthouse6378 I completely agree, especially as James was actively warning him that he wasn't going to have the time. Barry really should have had the choice between serving what he had or continuing to cook but forfeiting the match.
I'm also not convinced he would have lost if he had served immediately after his beef was decanted.
James, no.
This reminds me of the Normals budget/badge battle where Mike made sausage roll and went over his time. Ben was very open in saying that he would have won if he hadn't gone over the time.
No extra time. Barry should get time deducted from next battle!!!!
Exactly. There is literally established precedent, if you go over the time limit, you lose
@@khaldrakon James is a guest. Not a regular.
Guests should be allowed to bend the rules a little bit. After all, the guest is correct over the regular
@@muchluck7981 James is not a guest. No matter where he's at.
@@khaldrakon That's... stupid. How do you know he didn't deduct score from it? From what it sounded like, Jamies just wasn't as good. The taste is the most important part hands down, sure the time limit should still be a factor. But if Barry's dish was just that much better than Jamies in taste then a time penalty still wasn't enough to over take it. It still would have won.
I know you're used to judging colder food with the amount of time it takes to setup for the glamour shots but you've gotta give Jamie some credit there. His mash was sitting there for at least 10-20 minutes waiting for Barry to finish his dish. Jamie finished on time and definitely deserves the win or at the very least a badge for being able to finish his on time.
So does James get a "Knife Skills" badge for how deeply and cunningly planted a blade I'm jaimie's back?
a rather brutal yet apt description of what happened.
Yo, this made me laugh so hard 🤣🤣🤣
Couldn't agree more.
To be fair, Jamie did hit James in the balls with a sizeable brass bell once, causing James to double over in pain. (Jamie did it deliberately just to be funny.) Then, Jamie declared Ben the winner (...and James the loser) of that cooking battle. I'm okay with back-stabby-ness...it's got reasons.
If Jamie used more time he could've did the '' Coconut flakes'' thing James recommended but I guess FOLLOWING THE TIME RULE ISNT IMPORTANT lol
haha he could have toasted the nuts instead of mocking Barry :D
@@enikoregenyi2104 idk, by now I think the jokes are a required part of these competitions. 🤣
James "I know this decision will be controversial for either choice"
Me - no it isn't, it's the most cut and dry battle yet, James is just being kind.
James "I chose Barry"
Me - YOU WHAT!?! HE DIDN'T EVEN FINISH!
WHERE'S... THE DISH!??
I'm two years late but this should be top comment
I like how Jamie puts a disclaimer first when he makes fusion cuisines. Don't want to get attacked by an entire culture anymore.
Badge idea: They need to blind taste a dish and recreate it. Closest one wins a badge.
Yeeees! Up on that for sure!
Love this idea :)
Oooh is that the SortedFood version of the Taste It Now Make It segment from Hell's Kitchen? I am actually going to be excited to see that challenge play out or even given a twist in SortedFood fashion!
This is a fantastic idea!
so basically what the did on Bon Appetite
I wish we knew HOW MUCH extra time Barry needed. It felt like he took a whole like extra 20 min or so. If it was an extra like 2 minutes to fry the taco, that's more understandable. But yeah, Jamie took the time limit into account and finished his dish in the tune allotted, he either deserved the win, or as someone in another comment suggested, give Jamie a time management badge.
He had time to;
Release the steam from the cooker.
Dice the beef into 1 inch cubes.
Throw it into a pot to stew it.
Explain what he was doing (while not multitasking)
Fry off his tortillas.
Add cheese.
Flip and brush them.
Plate and garnish.
All as slowly and pretentiously as possible.
Barry had time to completely clear down and then start messing with the lights and calling his wife.
I'd estimate 20 minutes easy.
James has set a DANGEROUS precedent. Either Jamie gets to pull an extra time bonus out in some battle, or he needs to get some compensatory badge. Otherwise challenge rules are out the window!
I mean, why is there a time limit at all, really? It's always seemed unnecessary and detrimental to... everything. Except the few things where it's very deliberate, like those videos where they had exactly enough time to cook a soecific dish, etc
In my opinion Baz did not win this battle. He went over the time and should have been disqualified. However my family is very forgiving and if I go 15 min past dinner time they are still ok with it as long as it tastes good. :-)
James said the beef needed a touch more time, but Jamie’s was perfectly cooked. Is it not a beef badge that was up for grabs? Regardless of whether Barry’s tasted nicer, Jamie cooked the beef better?
Yeah, They only mentioned the instructions badge but at 16:34 you can see Barry getting another badge as well.
I don't agree with that one at all.
I guess the argument could be that even though it is a beef badge, and the beef might have needed more time, the dish overall highlighted the beef better and was an overall better beef dish?
Having beef with Barry’s win doesn’t count though 🤣
@@praymedis350 Yeah, you said it perfectly.
@@praymedis350 sure, but the argument that is made here still holds true. If you set certain requirements and you don't follow all of them, it should disqualify or at least impact your overall score.
It's like using salmon instead of beef and saying "but it's cooked better and the dish is overall tastier" - yeah, but it's also salmon and not beef.
I'm with Jamie. Time limit is a hard line. There's a reason Jamie couldn't win the seafood battle with his rice that had to be redone
But Barry's additional time wasn't used to entirely recreate a component of his dish to act as a saving grace but instead solely finish the pressure cooker's set timer to finish up and plate.
@@Kkarinaama you either get extra time or you dont
@@Kkarinaama Yes, instead Barry needed significantly more time to finish a core component of his dish because his time management was so poor that he couldn't get it into the pressure cooker before Jamie's was already in for 20 minutes.
Jamie’s commentary throughout this vid is EVERYTHING! There’s got to be a badge for that.
Chefs don't generally prattle on incessantly while cooking. So no, no badge.
@@Khazandar But Normals who are living their dreams are entirely entitled to prattle on as much as they want. 2 badges for Jamie IMO!
With Jamie on this one, he totally should have won once Barry went over the time limit with no beef ready.
I have to side with Jamie on this one, the time limit has to play a bigger factor in the judging, The fact that this was a beef battle and that was what Barry was predominantly waiting on and according James himself said the beef should have been cooked slightly longer. Knowing the cut of beef your cooking needs to come into account as it is a Beef badge. Barry could of chosen a different cut of Beef that would of cooked faster, I understand how flavourful beef ribs are but they also take longer to cook than many other cuts of beef. Jamie on the other hand choose to use beef cheeks, a cut of beef that has great flavour but could still be cooked in the time limit. To some it up Jamie should of won as it appeared that he knew his cut of beef better, or in the very least Jamie should also be given his Beef badge.
I agree 100% He could have cut the beef into smaller pieces to cook faster and the beef wasn't even the only issue, the so called "tortillas" weren't even round or cooked/ready, he lost all the way around. James really made a huge mistake here.
Said it better than I could have. I completely agree, as much as I love James, he needed to take the time and ingredient choices more into account than he did.
THIS IS WHAT I CAME HERE TO SCREAM! THANK YOU, KIND COMMENTER!!
Shoulda gone to Jamie, it was perfectly cooked and within the time limit. If Barry was gonna go over anyway, why not just let him push til his was perfectly cooked?
Glad to know I’m not the only one here who gives a damn about the rules. *insert John Goodman from The Big Lebowski gif here*
Or just put the beef into the pressure cooker sooner (as he was urged to do several times)?
For an ‘Ultimate beef battle’ Barry had no beef ready in the time given! There needs to be a penalty or there is no point of a timed trial! I will say Barry’s finished dish did look amazing and I’ve gotta try it, but I’m still gonna need justice for Jamie because he was cheated by a cheater.
Let’s be honest here, I think deep down James does not really like Jamie. It’s obvious in a few of their videos.
I didn’t get to taste it, so I can’t argue with the decision of the better dish, however I definitely feel that given how far Barry went over, Jaime should’ve won.
I think a fun compensation could be the two of them battling again, but give Jaime the amount of time Barry went over as extra time. Also, give the man a time management badge!!
Btw, this comes from someone who’s favored Barry over the others since I first discovered this channel a few years ago.
Jamie was in the right. Imagine if Barry served what was prepared at the end of the time, it would have been just the garnishes and dry tortillas. On that merit, Barry would have lost the beef battle because he had no beef to serve.
Yes, I'm afraid I have to agree. :) I mean, taste is important, but it can't be everything... Otherwise, someone could just prepare an amazing chicken dish and win, even though it's a beef battle... "Where's the beef?" --James, misquoted 😆
Having said all of that, I will be low-key disappointed in Barry's trolling skills if he doesn't double down and intentionally rub this one in during future episodes... "Jamie, beef's supposed to be your specialty... but remember how I beat you that one time in an ultimate beef battle?" 😆
I'll also be low key disappointed in Ben if he doesn't have something to say about this at some point whenever he gets back from his travels!
On the other side he agreed to said deadline so is totally unacceptable giving him more time, specially if they are trying to see who is more suitable to be a chef extra time is not a luxury they have.
I just think back to the battle where Jamie got another shot at his sushi rice and went well over time. I think it evens out on aggregate
YES
@@Smagasins You are right. Jamie did get extra time for sushi rice. It all balances out.
WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THE TIME LIMIT IF YOU'RE GOING TO IGNORE THE TIME LIMIT
yes Jamie 👏👏👏😂
Agree 100%
Time limit is a time limit. Had that been followed, Barry wouldn't have even had beef for the beef battle. Jamie won.
Excellently put. 👍
As someone who has had the misfortune of botching steps and ending up in the kitchen ludicrously late into the evening, I can sympathize with Barry and appreciate the recognition that his dish turned out well despite the time... But I fully agree with you that if the time limit is there, it should matter. ⏲
I love how they're competitive and banter but still pay each other compliments with no ego BS when the food is great. What a great bunch of lads
Jaimie : perfectly cooked beef, made his dish in the time limit
Barry : Slightly underdone beef despite no time limit, took his time after the time limit was off.
James : "Both decisions would be controversial!"
Excuse me how Jaimie winning would be controversial since he respected the time limit, and the beef was done well? Because it isn't Barry? That's just not fair.
Because of the fact that Jamie won of a technicality rather than legitimately.
Sure you can argue as much as you want that Barry cooked over the time limit but disquaifying him over the beef would mean that Jamie won because his opponent couldn't manage their time. Not based on food.
@@muchluck7981, it's both. In a professional environment if you can't serve up excellent food in a timely manner you won't last long.
To my mind, well cooked beef served 30 minutes sooner wins over slightly undercooked beef served 30 minutes later.
Not fair, disappointed in James, especially since he had ONE tiny criticizom of the dish.
@@muchluck7981 what technicality? Either there's a time limit or there isn't. What's the point of a time limit if it plays no part in the competition?
@@thesupercoach It would mean Jamie won because he met a time limit. Not because his beef dish tasted the best. Time should be a factor yes but if you lost despite meeting the time limit then it's a half victory in my honest opinion.
You won the competetion but didn't win the chef's heart. That's what I see it as. Basically the plot of Rocky
@@muchluck7981 no shit he won. If I sit a test and get a really high score because I take twice as long as the other test takers, is it fair to say I won? No.
When there's a time limit, if you fail to meet it, then you fail. If the challenge had been to produce a dish at some stage that day then Jamie probably loses, but that wasn't the challenge.
For Barry to redeem himself for the poor time management, he should have to finish a food challenge in under the required time, to show that he can do proper time management. Either that or just ban him from getting the TM badge.
Or like someone else suggested: Introduce a 'penalty badge', which counts as negative one badge, showing his shortcomings in this battle the same way that normal badges showcase successes.
Maybe it's up to Ben to revoke another one of Barry's badges
Have Barry have as much less time as he spent over time on this one.
@@redholm But then Barry would have to just, like... watch, the next 5+ battles?
@@eivind261093 Not really? I doubt he went an hour over time. It was probably more max 15 minutes but Jamie made it look like it was a very long time.
Jaime deserves a time management badge for this! Even taking into account the time when he'd let James step in for him and then completing his dish on time. Barry's dish looked great, but in the context of the battle, Jaime should've won.
I think Jamie already had time management
Jamie has that badge already
Didn't Jaime have a similar issue as Barry during a rice challenge or something?
@@KarinIris123 Yes, he had. An he didn't won that challange. Just as he didin't won with lava cake when he missed the time limit. And just as Mike, when he was over time (but I forgot in what battle).
Barry’s dish looked amazing but Jamie made his dish within the limits of the task. Jamie deserved the win.
EXACTLY! James should have praised Barry's dish as tasting better, but deducted points for being LATE! Jamie was robbed!
Jamie has for sure won a battle before while going over the time limit
@@freezemypath4 true. however this was a beef challenge. barry had no beef ready within the time limit. and when it was done, it was a little undercooked as james said. where jamie had perfectly cooked beef. therefor, even ignoring the time limit, jamie should have won either way since his beef was actually cooked properly
Sorted works because the bonds of friendship. This show is the perfect example of said love.
Thank you.
Regardless of his loss, Jamie has proven to me time and time again to be the normal I think is the best cook when he wants to be.
Ya, I would say he is the one who retains what he learns every week and utilizes it.
Looking at this a year later... Jamie's palate is knockout, and he really has the ability to step out of his comfort zone and chef up and command the others as cooks when he needs to. On the other hand, on this week's video (first week Jan 2023), he fried chorizo and sliced a bun for a Tapas challenge. The key phrase is definitely "when he wants to be".
@@mwilson5449 High five for the late to the party gang! I don't think Jamie even counts as a normal anymore. He's more skilled than most cooks in restaurants outside of his adhd when using a knife.
@@mwilson5449I’ve always felt that Jamie is the most “chef-like” of the normals
Jammie was robbed of the win! As he said “a time limit is a time limit” Barry should of served with no beef!
Side question, how much extra time did Barry need?
Loving seeing James back again!
1) It was great to have James back, even if only for a day.
2) Jamie deserved to win since he followed the rules.
3) Both things looked delicious.
Jamie: "Me and James 😏, we got history, we got chemistry"
Also Jamie: "I miss BEN, BEN is my bestie. Bestie, bestie, bestie."
Jamie is so fickle.
Both dishes looked amazing but Jamie did deserve the win here, considering that he planned accordingly and had his dish ready in the alotted time. Since Badges are still on the line, I think Jamie should get a "Time Management" badge or at least rescind Barry's badge (if he has one).
Nevertheless, great job to both :)
Watching James work is like watching an artist paint. It's beautiful and amazing how easy he makes it look!
Jaime deserves a time management badge for sure! Or Barry gets even less time his next battle. Gotta make it fair
I just love Jaime's Ebbers song. Hope he realizes that Ben now has something to point to if he ever complains about him.
And here all this time, we thought it was Barry and Ben who were the best of friends. 😆
A rule is a rule. Mike lost a battle previously due to him running over the time limit.
Although Barry's finished dish was better.
Barry should suffer some penalty. Maybe a loss of a time management badge (if he has one)
Exactly.
Jamie has the time management badge already, Barry doesn't. I guess this battle further proves why
"What's the point in having a time limit, if you're going to ignore the time limit?!" Exactly. #JusticeForJamie
James Mantra of "Back for a day ,gotta be nice" clouded his judgement at the end
I agree that Baz's dish is definitely the one I'd prefer, but Jamie has a point "whats the point of having a time limit if youre gonna ignore the time limit"
Imagine if they gave James a curve ball and played their chef cards at the same time...up for the multitasking James? 😂
That would be awks 😂
The only part that bugs me about the overtime ( honestly dont know how egregious it was just what we could see in the video) is that the reason James said it won was it was a little bit more delicious rather than stand out, how much better would Jamies dish had been if it wasn't sitting and waiting for Barrys or if Jamie had the extra time to push his dish further.
🤔 That's a very good point.
Barry's dish looked incredible. I would be immensely happy to be able to eat it. That being said, if it were to happen in a restaurant, would i be alright waiting the extra however long it took to complete the dish? Just saying, if it took like an extra 30-45 minutes, i'd be out the door at that point
Barry definitely should not have won that. If ignoring the time limit is a thing, and the only important aspect is the taste, whats stopping somebody from spending hours smoking a prime cut of meat then serving that? Plus, if this sort of thing is rewarded instead of being punished, wont others do the same in the future? I think that should be avoided imo
if you were in a restaurant you wouldnt be waiting because something like that is cooked ahead of time
This destroys any meaning or tension buildup you may get from time calls. 5 minutes left doesn't mean anything if one cook is just allowed to continue while the others present what they could. No tension, no penalty. No rush. Take your time Jamie and Mike, because clearly it no longer matters.
While I absolutely adore Barry, he didn't deserve to win. There was a time limit and Barry didn't stick to it. Jamie took the limit in consideration and did a bang up job. Also, how does a "more than edible" beef dish win over a perfectly made beef dish? Barry's badge should be rescinded and/or Jamie should be allowed to have the extra allotted time in his next battle.
With that said, I'd want to try the tacos!
Both dishes looked absolutely fantastic, but I think Jamie deserved the win.
Plus, in the original lava cake battle, he ran out of time with his puddle cake and he wasn’t given any more time… By that logic, Barry exceeding the time limit means he should’ve only served up what he had.
same when he made a poke bowl he used extra time but was instantly disqualified. Same thing happened with Mike in one of those timed battles over time and was disqualified because of it.
Oh dang I forgot that lava cake!!! Sorry Barry tacos looked good but…..
James doing EXACTLY what they say because he would just finish their dishes in 5 seconds and make it amazing otherwise 😂
Either it was cut or he actually didn't, as he turned the hob off ...
YIKES! I would revoke Barry's time management badge if he has one haha this was absolutely hilarious
"Oh that's where my spoon went!" Made LOL for real. :)
I wish I had a James card sometimes…
I would cook 💯 times more if I had someone with professional knife skills in the house.
@@shellh929 Not sure if Azeria was talking about cooking.
@@diynevala no comment
messing up my toast n i call in james to fix everything up n he just makes me a beef wellington
Oh, James. I have missed you. However, you REALLY forked up. Jamie would have had to seriously screw up for Barry to earn the win. The time limit is part of the challenge!
Barry should have lost automatically for not having a dish in the allotted time. I wish James have Jamie the win because of that, and then followed it up with “but the tastiest dish was Barry’s”
eh i don't think the time should be the end-all of the battles. i actually prefer it when they recognize that sometimes, a meal is worth waiting for.
i do think that means barry shouldn't have gotten the badge(didn't ask james to step in when he should have), but the better dish was still barry's.
@@Babe-vi6cv the better dish was Barry’s but there’s waiting a little longer and then there’s waiting too long
On top of that Jamie’s was getting colder and less fresh while Barry got his completely fresh
My heart is so happy with James’ intermittent appearances. It’s so nice to know he’s still a part of the sorted family ❤️
Ha-ha, the looks on their faces after James gave Barry the win. Hilarious! 🤣
James comes back, judges beef battle, manages to start more beef, leaves.
🤣
Yeah, Barry went WAY over the "time limit" it wasn't even by a couple of minutes and just put the beef that went over time on a plate, he still had to do a lot more other than wait the pressure cooker timer. OK that you try his dish BUT not ok that he still qualified as a "contender". BTW Jamie calling Barry's wife was hilarious as heck....LOL! 😀
I'm going to say it. Jamie was robbed! If he'd had another 10 minutes + he could've done the bits that James said were missing. Barry should've forfeited any win.
A time limit is a time limit only if it actually limits you! Definitely agree with Jamie that his should have won! #teamjamie #teamtimelimit
"barry you can laugh but I'm plating up a dish" jamie is hilarious 😂😂
I met James at work today, he came in for lunch and he was very nice when I went over to gush at him. It was one of the best things that's happened to me in a long time! Thank you for being so nice James!!
I think Barry needed to earn an Anti-Time Management Badge for this one. It will count as a -1 to his overall badge count.
Yay! So glad James has been coming back for a couple videos! I also am constantly learning from you guys. I actually cooked a full meal for my family out of a recipe book I had never used before. Cooking is not something I do often for lack of motivation and depression (causes me to not want to eat so why cook?). But you guys have given me the courage to cook more! Last night I cooked spinach mushroom and shrimp ligunu with a side of zucchini. Everyone really liked it! So thank you all and keep doing what your doing!!!
That's incredible....we bet they loved it! Keep up that courage - you can do this 💪
@@SortedFood Thank you so much! I will try! Now I just want to order more cookbooks especially ridiculous ones! THE OFFICAL OVERWATCH COOKBOOK HERE I COME! 😆 That should be one you guys review!
That´s awesome. Homecooked food is a great way to show love and care for others AND yourself.
@@miekekuppen9275 Yeah starting to learn that. Thank you!
@@miekekuppen9275 Yes! Love it!
Absolutely unbelievable. I was so excited to see James back and then he comes in with just an abomination of a final judgement. Just further proof that the "chefs" are biased against Jamie, the resident Everyman in the group.
🤣🤣🤣 I busted out laughing in a coffee shop when he started washing dishes and then continued to laugh until the end of the challenge!
James is chaotic-evil. He turns up, creates mayhem and then leaves again. Gotta respect it.
D&D AND Sorted Food in one comment. You win sir!
@@kinghomer999 You know this is the right side of the internet!
Gotta be real, Barry's cockiness in timed battles has so often backfired, and other than taking the piss out of him, I don't feel like he's generally been penalized for it in the judgment. Frankly, I would never have given him the win, as delicious as his tacos looked. He knew the conditions walking into this and still failed to meet a critical one.
How often did he win a battle? Over most of the battles, it felt like a free win for the one, who goes against Barry.
@@KippDotter Maybe there's a reason for that? :p No diss against his recipes, but Barry's execution in the battles generally comes up short because of his tendency to waste time and rush himself toward the end.
@@Morgannin ever tought that's intentional, they can't just make videos plainly cooking and thats it
@@Speardon thats why we have curve balls and banter not them fucking up on purpose being cocky and then rewarded
I'm with Jamie, what is the point of having a time limit if you're not going to use it? He should of had to open the pressure cooker ahead of time and go from there.
I partly disagree. When there is a time limit, the result plated when the time is up should be judged. As Barry had a clean plate, the win should go to Jamie. As I really dislike food waste, it would be Ok for me to finish the dish exceeding the time limit (i. e. out of the competition), plate it and enjoy it. It makes no sense to me to waste the food for the sake of a time limit.
@@maxlutz3674 That's such a stupid justification, they can eat it and mark it as good/bad or otherwise - just don't permit it to win?
@@hefudgedafrog Time managment is part of the challenge. When the goal is to have a plated dish after the time is up, it is fair to judge what is on the plate. An empty plate is not a likely winner. If the competitor decides to open the cooker sooner to get a dish on the plate, it´s fine. Just don´t interfere with his time managment. When the time is up, the race is run.
"Oh! That's where my spoon went!"
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL XD
And I think it's 100% clear that Jamie totally loved that taco, he's just sore it took slightly longer to make. :)
That beat at 2:12 gave me flashbacks to that song "Show me your genitals....your genitals" from back in the day lol!
James I love having you back but this is the second time you’ve awarded Barry something undeserved, a time limit is a time limit! (The first was the merengue badge, and to be fair I only think Mike deserved half a badge on that)
tbh...I think Barry should have just been disqualified because in any FAIR competition if you don't have it on the plate in the time limit you don't get to serve it. And it wasn't just a few seconds over. It was a WHOLE assembly of the dish and more cook time. Very valid point of "What's the point of a time limit if you're going to ignore the time limit?!"
If you go back to the Ultimate Seafood Battle (3 way not the one with just Barry and Jamie), Jamie gets extra time due to screwing up his rice. So he gets that extra time to cook new rice and to assemble his dish.
@@michaelbonis769 then why even have a timed competition?!!
@@Ayumikii quite simply as extra challenge but things never go to plan. Take for instance the Cooking to the beat recipe challenge where Jamie and Kiko Bun where challenged to cook a dish and prepare a pina colada within 1hr. They took 1hr 38mins and as Jamie said "what's time when you are having fun"
@@michaelbonis769 at this point I feel like they should just throw the time limit out of the window...instead of making it a timed battle this is just, an ingredient challenge....
@@Ayumikii exactly! Abolish the time limit, unless it's something that deliberately needs a time limit (pass it on, etc), as all it adds in the normal course of things is add unnecessary drama
Even if you ignore the time limit debacle, it was a BEEF battle and James stated clearly that Jamie's beef was cooked perfectly and Barry's was a little underdone. No way does Barry deserve this - Jamie didn't get extra time when his lava cake wasn't ready in time, Barry should relinquish this win if he had any sense of honour. Very disappointed with James here.
He did for his pokebowl sushi rice though so it's not like Jamie hasn't benefited
I agree with you, but I also think it’s not that deep man lol
@@NomaanTahir did Jamie win tha battle?
@@chainsawpanda2 Can't remember but he was given the opportunity for extra time. Mike has had something similar. Whether they used their extra time effectively or not is broadly irrelevant
@@chainsawpanda2 pretty sure he lost BECAUSE of the time limit.
James should come back for a Chef vs Chef, except Ben gets as much time as he wants
Totally with everyone else here, Jamie deserves a time management badge and/or Barry deserves to lose his.
Was there an Organisation Badge? If Barry has it, he shouldn`t anymore now 😂
"Rendang" but in quotation marks. I see Jamie still remembers the paella crisis 😁😁 Also, great to see James and his judgey looks!
Check out the subtitles for that, the auto-generator thinks he said "bring down" ⁉
How difficult would it be to improve the quality of the subtitles? Some channels go to town, I've been quite spoiled by "Critical Role" who had a team of volunteers handcrafting them❣
As an Indonesian, I can guarantee that's not rendang. That's plum curry beef cheeks. Rendang has a whole different colour and texture and is a whole lot spicier.
Both dishes looked absolutely fantastic. Might go for birria tacos tonight then make a rendition of that Rendang tomorrow.
First
DOOOOOOO it!!!
Made Birria tacos once and they are totally worth all the work.
Maybe a collab might be nice, making some anime food
@@vikashKumar-ir6ph When you are replying to an existing comment you are very much NOT first.
I think everyone arguing that it was unfair has to realize. It's fun. They're friends having fun with food. It's not gonna hurt anyone if there is a bad badge distribution a few times. It's all for the love of making delicious food and making good videos for people to enjoy. So do just that, relax and enjoy.
No no no no. Jamie's beef was cooked perfectly. And, he got it all done within the time limit. Clearly he won. I do not doubt the Barry's dish tasted wonderful, but James himself made the arguments for why Jamie won.
Honestly I think we've moved past the point that the guys should get a pass for not completing things in the time limit. It was fine when the "normals" were still normal, but the ultimate battle format has been going on so long that there's no excuse aside really poor time management here. If you're now evaluating their skills, Barry needs to be penalized for his missteps. I think finishing after the time is up needs to be an automatic disqualification, or a rule that the dish MUST be served as-is when time is called. How is Barry's "win" here fair when he got so much more time than Jaime? How can you fairly judge two dishes when one has been sitting out getting cold while the other is served relatively fresh?
I've would've just scrapped Barry's and he could just finish it up later and take it home.
Yeah, Jamie's in the right here. It doesn't matter how good Barry's dish was, since Jamie was the only one to cook to the brief.
A restaurant could serve the best food imaginable, but if you need to wait 90 minutes or two hours for it to arrive at your table, then that's pretty damning.
I get that, but if they let him finish and plate, and take the time into consideration, why shouldn't he have a chance to win? If it isn't an instant disqualification, shouldn't there still be an opportunity for Barry to win?
@@JB-mu6si No, IMO time limits should be respected or there is no longer any tension to the video. Barry should still finish the dish if not there is no longer a video but then he can know if he would have won or not based on his dish. But he should still lose,
@@JB-mu6si Cause whats the point of the timelimit if i can just ignore it like Barry did? If the task would be to cook a Dish with Beefribs and Jamie would do Porkribs would he then still have a chance to win?
I promise it isn't that serious
@@martinchua9104 @Derkrieg1 I remember a Seafood battle between mike, barry and jamie where jamie was late aswell cause of his rice, and then it wasnt a problem so why all the fuss now over barry being late? Barry deserved the win and i'm happy for him #barryisbestnormal
Jamie deserved that win. Mike's gone over before and going over the time was the primary reason he lost. Jamie's right, what's the point of the timed challenge if one participant can just ignore the time limit and spend more time making the dish taste better. Bad precident. Should have tried Barry's dish with only the elements he finished in time. Then try his late beef entry after judging.
No beef dish to serve when time runs out on the beef challenge is an automatic loss.
Jamie cooking in a restaurant:
Happy customers eating good food
after waiting a reasonable amount
of time who recommended the
restaurant to all of their friends.
Barry cooking in a restaurant:
Unhappy customers who waited
too long for their food and
complain to the wait staff (or just
get up and leave) then don't
recommend the restaurant to their
friends.
Really James?! Jaime is absolutely the winner. Barry had no beef ready when the time limit was up and James even said it could use more time!! Ben needs to rescind Barry’s badge, again. 😂
The recipe was obviously not chosen particularly well given the restraints of the battle, or he should have called James in to do all of the prep.
@@AlecanderWatson he forgot to place his meat early. If you go back and watch .. you’ll see that Berry had time to place the meat first thing but he wasted some time talking and showing us the beautiful meat pieces
I feel like James was given extra time, he could make his dish better. You have to put in account time for that purpose as well.
If Barry gets extra time to make his food taste better, but goes over the time, that penalty should apply to the food as well. That's my opinion at least.
Let's not forget that Jamie went over time in the seafood battle so they're even now.
Yeah, absolutely, this was nonsense.
All things considered, I do think the verdict should've been "Barry would have won if he'd finished in the time limit, but he didn't, so Jamie wins by default."
The best part of the whole video was James saying repeatedly to himself, "Just one day, gotta be nice." I was dying and can totally appreciate that. I'm that guy at work too.
Love seeing James back
Look, I might have not been there to taste the dish, but I feel like Jamie won this battle - not only because of the time but also based on James' comments? How does a beef that needs a longer cook wins a beef battle?! While he said Jamie's beef was perfectly cooked? Yeah, this was really not a fair win at all! And Barry should have been disqualified for going over the time limit, not just a couple minutes, but from the looks of it (with the jokes and what he still had to do) he went over the time a lot!
I imagine that Jamie was just making a lot of jokes about Barry going over the time limit. Could've have just been an extra 10-15 minutes. Clearly Barry won because his dish was just better tasting than Jamie's dish. Barry's beef could have been cooked longer and could have been softer, but the flavors were still there.
@@b4history32 10-15 minutes on an hour 30 or was it hour 40 minute competition is quite a lot. Based on an hour thirty thats an extra 1/6 time compared to Jamie and its a beef battle. If your beef isn't there then shouldnt win
@b4 history @@Piratemonkeyify yes, exactly - I dont mean I think he went over an hour or that long, just that it wasn’t a quick 5 min over the time. He had to wait for the pressure to go off (which they said in the video reviewing the pot that it takes a couple minutes), then cut the meat (which you can see he was no longer in a hurry), fry the tortilla and plate his dish. All together, Id say at least ten minutes? Probably closer to 15? The point is Jamie *had* time to make the jokes, even some that obviously went on to bloopers.
Like I said, I can't judge on taste, only on what James said. This was a beef battle. Yes, obviously the flavor was there, Jamie and James even look a bit speechless at one point. But if cooking the beef correctly is not taken into consideration, or the time in a timed battle, then these types of videos are kind of pointless? Just have the boys make the dishes without the pressure, and just judge them on taste.
lmao - sorry, I didnt mean to write a whole essay on this, it's not even that serious, but out of all battles Ive seen over many, many years, I think this one was probably one of the most unfair wins.
@@chaoticbells I mean, it makes sense. In a BEEF battle, Jamie's beef was done on time and spot on. How is it the one who's BEEF wasn't even done on time, and James himself admitted needed even more cooking time, the winner of the BEEF challenge that was under time constraints? It really does feel like a pity judging, and all that extra time, of course Jamie's wouldn't be as good, it had far too much time to cool down while Barry's was definitely still up at the proper temperature.
*Barry's time goes over*
*Barry still has to do extra after that*
*James says the beef STILL needed more time*
*Barry wins*
...
Erm.
Well, James did the majority of the cooking for him, so really he was just giving himself the win.
So, considering all that, for James to still pick Barry, his dish must have been exponentially better than Jamie's dish. That says more about Jamie than Barry doesn't it?
Jamie is aware of the ‘Paella Crisis’ and is undergoing course-corrective measures by adding air quotes.
As an Indonesian, I can confirm that "rendang" is not rendang. It's plum curry beef cheeks.
There needs to be a SORTED jail so we can throw Barry and James in there for their crimes!
I'd like to see two normals try to make the dalgona (sugar honeycomb) from Squid Game. "It's just two ingredients" *laughs maniacally*