@@annieleoutside6044 so what you think about the dirigo 2? how long have you been using the dirigo 2? I wonder what is the most issue you're having with the dirigo 2?
This is the best video I've seen on hyperlight. If I would have had this info. sooner I would have bought this instead of zpacks at least on one occasion. I'm sizing up the unbound now, I think its just a zpacks duplex, slightly heavier. I have the duplex so I think I'll try the one you displayed here. the smaller version of the duplex, hopefully lighter. I'm learning, so think you so much for the information. I've made some very expensive mistakes. Your video is so awesome, I can't thank you enough. they really should send you some free stuff because no one has given a better understanding of these products then you from what I've seen. Your review is the best, and I envy your lifestyle. slowly I hope to see more of it myself in my own world. going to Europe would be awesome, I hope to do that someday also. seems like you have some beautiful places to see over there
how is the floor of the mesh insert? Could you set up a compact camp chair in it? Do you cook in in as well? Contemplating the ½ insert, but would love the bug protection from where I use it. Thanks.
@Annie Le Outside thank you so much for this review. We went with the 4. It certainly is huge! We missed an obvious downside and that is lack of vestibule combined with the top of the zipper nearing mid-tent, opening it up during rain or storm just comes straight down in to our down bags. Any tricks to minimize this issue? Otherwise, phenomenal tent. Has withstood super high winds and snowstorms in the Rocky Mountains
Hi Rodney. Well we dont unzip it all the way if its really wet (just crawl in and out) and what we have done about the lack of porch is unclip one corner and fold the inner back which then creates a big porch space. hope that helps!
Rodney - For 1 or 2 person, you can sleep at the "back" placing your sleeping gear parallel to the door rather than pointing at it. I went for the UL4 too for that reason, and despite hiking solo most time. For a minor weight penalty (compared to UL2) you gained flexibility - something welcome when you call your tent Home for longer period, when you need to wait for the heat or the storm to pass...
Great video comparison of the 3 tents ( only interested in the mids though) Was going to get the Ultamid 2 with full insert but now thinking of going for the Ultamid 4 with half insert. weight difference is negligible and not much more in price. I have been using a Go lite Shangri La 5 for many years and like the space. At 6'1" the extra height might be nice.,
We use the Ultimid 4 with the half mesh bathtub insert for cycle touring, All our panniers and gear fit easily in one half. Plus we really like that if the weather is really bad in the morning we can take down the Half without ever leaving the tent. That allows us to gear up out of the weather 😃. I do find it impossible to tighten the Ultimid 4 to the ground using Hyperlites carbon pole, which has been annoying. Do you have problems with the Ultimids not being tight to the ground ?
That sounds like a great set up! Having so much porch space must be great. We dont actually have a hyperlite pole, we have the ruta locura adjustable which seems a good length at its shortest for getting a snug pitch. with the paddle its harder, ive sometimes dug an indent for it to sit into.
Question, can the half inserts be orientated to any side of the tent? Ig, connected to the top right and top left corners to create a porch/vestibule at the front?
You said you used the Ultamid 2 in the winter. Did it trap the heat at all ? I am considering using it as a winter tent because it is so lightweight but am concerned that is will be freezing cold in the tent. What was your experience with this tent in cold weather ?
Hi, these are not tents for providing lots of insulation. Saying that, im not sure a more traditional sil nylon double skin provides much either. you can pitch them higher or lower to allow more or less air flow at the bottom. The advantage of such a light shelter is it allows me to carry that extra jacket for warmth.
You said the Ultamid 2 was a great winter tent. What did you mean ? Does it trap heat pretty well ? If so how does that work with the bottom of the tent open ?
@@newlifeeveryday1821 Id say the tent provides more of a wind shelter than warmth. Not that i think a double skin sil nylon tent provides much warmth either. But as its light i can take that extra jacket or bigger sleeping bag which does keep me warm.. I guess itl be down to personal preferance.
Annie, how do you store your dirigo 2 when you're not going to use for a while or few months? you let it loose or do you just store it as usual in hyperlite stuff sack?
Hi Andrew, i think i mention in the video that we have had the mid 2 up in around 50-60mph and it seems really solid. I still dont get a good nights sleep in that mind!
They are useless for anything but camping in snow, due to the ridiculously visible bright white DCF, they are very heavy for DCF tents, and ludicrously expensive too. My Jumper Home Mountain House 1.5p, in real tree camo DCF, can be used anywhere thanks to its stealthy colour scheme, it only weighs 326g, or 448g with a 3m x 1.5m Polycro groundsheet (about half the weight of a HMG DCF tent), and it only cost me £350, with free postage and no customs fees!
I mean i use them all year round and never have a problem with the light. DCF is an expensive material and has differing grades like other fabric. I costed up the fabric using the same grade as hyperlite and it would have cost me the same in fabric as it would to buy the tent. Each to thier own though and im glad you have a shelter you like.
If your only using pay to campsites with your tent then fair enough, but I would never pay to stay and I always wild camp for free. But the UK government is currently trying to pass a bill (which will soon be on it's second reading through Parliament) that will make trespassing (and therefore wild camping) in England and Wales a criminal offence, instead of a civil offence as it is now. ...So stealth gear will become absolutely essential...A bright white tent is the complete opposite of stealthy, hence why I only recommend ultralight tents made from low viz camo DCF.
I don’t understand the hype in this brand, seems like a overpriced $800 piece of tarp. I don’t think this brand will survive in any extreme condition. trekking pole as support is a joke to me. Get a big Agnes, MSR or NEMO that’s more reliable.
Best comparison video so far on these tents. I’ve really wanted to see something like this for a long while. Thank you so very much.
Hi Mark, thanks for you feedback! Im glad its been useful :)
@@annieleoutside6044 so what you think about the dirigo 2? how long have you been using the dirigo 2? I wonder what is the most issue you're having with the dirigo 2?
Hi Annie, Thanks for your refreshing no nonsense commentary on these tents quite useful when considering a purchase🏴
glad to help!
Really good video, great to get real world opinions on kit. Keep them coming!
thanks Richard!
This is the best video I've seen on hyperlight. If I would have had this info. sooner I would have bought this instead of zpacks at least on one occasion. I'm sizing up the unbound now, I think its just a zpacks duplex, slightly heavier. I have the duplex so I think I'll try the one you displayed here. the smaller version of the duplex, hopefully lighter. I'm learning, so think you so much for the information. I've made some very expensive mistakes. Your video is so awesome, I can't thank you enough. they really should send you some free stuff because no one has given a better understanding of these products then you from what I've seen. Your review is the best, and I envy your lifestyle. slowly I hope to see more of it myself in my own world. going to Europe would be awesome, I hope to do that someday also. seems like you have some beautiful places to see over there
How you pronounced Appalachian is good and also surprising. I live 80 miles from the south of it, and I almost never hear it pronounced that way. 👍🏼
nice selection, i had the same. I recently sold my ultamid 4 and bought the liteway pyraomm max as a replacement. 👍
Love the video. Just like you I own all 3 of these.
Could you make a video comparing the Black diamond meg light to these tent in the video.... Blessings!
Thank you for making this video...Friar Rodney Burnap.
This is awesome
how is the floor of the mesh insert? Could you set up a compact camp chair in it? Do you cook in in as well? Contemplating the ½ insert, but would love the bug protection from where I use it. Thanks.
@Annie Le Outside thank you so much for this review. We went with the 4. It certainly is huge! We missed an obvious downside and that is lack of vestibule combined with the top of the zipper nearing mid-tent, opening it up during rain or storm just comes straight down in to our down bags. Any tricks to minimize this issue? Otherwise, phenomenal tent. Has withstood super high winds and snowstorms in the Rocky Mountains
Hi Rodney. Well we dont unzip it all the way if its really wet (just crawl in and out) and what we have done about the lack of porch is unclip one corner and fold the inner back which then creates a big porch space. hope that helps!
Rodney - For 1 or 2 person, you can sleep at the "back" placing your sleeping gear parallel to the door rather than pointing at it. I went for the UL4 too for that reason, and despite hiking solo most time. For a minor weight penalty (compared to UL2) you gained flexibility - something welcome when you call your tent Home for longer period, when you need to wait for the heat or the storm to pass...
Good job 👍
Very nice I also own all these shelters.
Great video. Many thanks!
Thanks. Glad you liked it!
Great video comparison of the 3 tents ( only interested in the mids though) Was going to get the Ultamid 2 with full insert but now thinking of going for the Ultamid 4 with half insert. weight difference is negligible and not much more in price. I have been using a Go lite Shangri La 5 for many years and like the space. At 6'1" the extra height might be nice.,
The 4 is sooo much bigger than the 2. I think i prefer the 2 as its a bit cosier, but the 4 really gives you that extra height.
@@annieleoutside6044 thanks Annie. Just received the Ultamid 4 with half insert. Haven't had a chance to set it up yet. Very light!
@@RobFomenko Sweet! What an awesome set up that will be! I hope you have some good adventures planned for it!
We use the Ultimid 4 with the half mesh bathtub insert for cycle touring, All our panniers and gear fit easily in one half. Plus we really like that if the weather is really bad in the morning we can take down the Half without ever leaving the tent. That allows us to gear up out of the weather 😃. I do find it impossible to tighten the Ultimid 4 to the ground using Hyperlites carbon pole, which has been annoying. Do you have problems with the Ultimids not being tight to the ground ?
That sounds like a great set up! Having so much porch space must be great. We dont actually have a hyperlite pole, we have the ruta locura adjustable which seems a good length at its shortest for getting a snug pitch. with the paddle its harder, ive sometimes dug an indent for it to sit into.
@@annieleoutside6044 The HMG pole is made by Ruta Locura. Bet its just the length difference.
Once they’re pitched up I think that they use quite a lot of ground space. Problematic when you hike preferably in woods and mountains like I do
Question, can the half inserts be orientated to any side of the tent? Ig, connected to the top right and top left corners to create a porch/vestibule at the front?
Any idea when you’ll have them back in stock?
Do you use the Hilleburg line locks on the Ultamid 4 tent as well?
yep, they work really well.
You said you used the Ultamid 2 in the winter. Did it trap the heat at all ? I am considering using it as a winter tent because it is so lightweight but am concerned that is will be freezing cold in the tent. What was your experience with this tent in cold weather ?
Hi, these are not tents for providing lots of insulation. Saying that, im not sure a more traditional sil nylon double skin provides much either. you can pitch them higher or lower to allow more or less air flow at the bottom. The advantage of such a light shelter is it allows me to carry that extra jacket for warmth.
You said the Ultamid 2 was a great winter tent. What did you mean ? Does it trap heat pretty well ? If so how does that work with the bottom of the tent open ?
So i thinks its a great winter tent as it is very light, strong and spacious.
@@annieleoutside6044 Thank you. Is the tent warm enough for winter?
@@newlifeeveryday1821 Id say the tent provides more of a wind shelter than warmth. Not that i think a double skin sil nylon tent provides much warmth either. But as its light i can take that extra jacket or bigger sleeping bag which does keep me warm.. I guess itl be down to personal preferance.
I just received my Ultamid 2. Can you please tell me how you store your tent when you aren't using it ? Thanks.
exciting! I store mine dry, hanging in a cuboard.
"If you're taller than me at 5'6"..."
I stopped there.
No inner portion for the ultamids?
I use them alot without the inner. Until bug season at least!
Annie, how do you store your dirigo 2 when you're not going to use for a while or few months? you let it loose or do you just store it as usual in hyperlite stuff sack?
Hi Enrico, I let it dry fully and store it in its stuff sack. However, if i had the space i would hang them up if i could.
One question I have is how do the mids handle high winds? Any experience of camping with these tents in U.K storm conditions? Thanks!
Hi Andrew, i think i mention in the video that we have had the mid 2 up in around 50-60mph and it seems really solid. I still dont get a good nights sleep in that mind!
@@annieleoutside6044 Thanks so much. I'm still trying to justify the purchase of the Ultamid over a Hilleberg.
I thought these would have a small pack size considering the weight 🤔
The Dyneema fabric does not compress as well as sil nylon despite being lighter. It does pack smaller with use though.
Are you British? In the Uk. Any distributors in the uk?
Hi Neel. Backcountry.scot is a distrubuter in scotland :)
Annie Le Outside amazing! Thanks so much.
guys please be fair at least mention the price for these tents
They are useless for anything but camping in snow, due to the ridiculously visible bright white DCF, they are very heavy for DCF tents, and ludicrously expensive too.
My Jumper Home Mountain House 1.5p, in real tree camo DCF, can be used anywhere thanks to its stealthy colour scheme, it only weighs 326g, or 448g with a 3m x 1.5m Polycro groundsheet (about half the weight of a HMG DCF tent), and it only cost me £350, with free postage and no customs fees!
I mean i use them all year round and never have a problem with the light. DCF is an expensive material and has differing grades like other fabric. I costed up the fabric using the same grade as hyperlite and it would have cost me the same in fabric as it would to buy the tent. Each to thier own though and im glad you have a shelter you like.
If your only using pay to campsites with your tent then fair enough, but I would never pay to stay and I always wild camp for free. But the UK government is currently trying to pass a bill (which will soon be on it's second reading through Parliament) that will make trespassing (and therefore wild camping) in England and Wales a criminal offence, instead of a civil offence as it is now. ...So stealth gear will become absolutely essential...A bright white tent is the complete opposite of stealthy, hence why I only recommend ultralight tents made from low viz camo DCF.
I don’t understand the hype in this brand, seems like a overpriced $800 piece of tarp. I don’t think this brand will survive in any extreme condition. trekking pole as support is a joke to me. Get a big Agnes, MSR or NEMO that’s more reliable.
Errr ....... she said they have used the tents in extreme conditions, in winter and they have been fine, very strong. Pictures provided as proof.