I traded my Elite for the Empyrean II . I found it to be a better all rounder. Also finally someone does a comprehensive comparison for these two! Awesome video 👌🏾👌🏾
Fantastic review, thanks very much. Like another person suggested though, hearing what these sound like for gaming would be great too. FPS would probably have all of these as amazing, but namely normal single-player stuff would be good to hear more on. A lot of these high-end headphones dont do well for that purpose because they're either too forward or too recessed in the mids for example. The Caldera is definitely one of them (I owned them for music and gaming, and may very well sell them for that reason)
For FPS, go get a pair of AKG K702s on the cheap or a pair of HD800s on the expensive. The K702/HD800 follow the 80/20 rule on soundstage, K702 is 80% as good for 20% of the price. Both would be way cheaper than a Meze.
Love the comparisons with the he-1000se as I’ve been thinking of going for that as my detail monster headphone. I have an Empy 2 and a Caldera currently. So anyway, great job!
May I ask, what are your use cases for both The Caldera and empy 2 ? I have the Caldera and contemplating empy 2 but not sure what I would use them for over the Caldera
@@mikylenaidoo1779 I honestly couldn’t find one. I wanted to give the Empys a try and while that are a great set, I got rid of them cause the Caldera does virtually everything better. Empy II wins in bass slam and comfort, but it’s Caldera in everything else.
Are you still using the Turtle beach stealth pro EQ settings from your previous video or have you fine tuned further? Always love your reviews, very detailed and you are the only one i trust for audio!!!
Having heard both of these at CJ, the Elite beats it handily for being more unique and more technically impressive. Empy II is too safe relative to the rest of their lineup, and it still doesn't warrant the price point technically.
First I wanna say thanks for a great review. My question is what are your EQ settings for the EMP 2 with the stock pads? Really looking forward to your answer. Cheers Fonz
Great review man! Personally my favorite is the OG Empyrean, (I wish you make a review with the OG Empy to….🙂🙏🏻) very unique, organic and lively sound. With Gustard R26 dac is even better, huge soundstage. For gaming what pads is the best for Meze Elite?
the driver in the Emp2 is actually the MZ3V2, the Elites use the MZ3SE and the original Empyrean uses the MZ3, i have no idea what the differences are.
I currently own Hifiman Edition XS. Due to my new job, and other factors, I've decided it's time to start giving serious thought about the next step. Giving it some thought, and reading/asking around, I decided the next step after the Edition XS is The Endgame. Something high end from Meze. Something that looks as good as it sounds. Something that will last forever, and fetch a pretty penny at my Estate Sale, when I have no kids to pass them down to. 😂For awhile, i wanted the Elites because they were a bit brighter than the original Empyrean. Now, it's the Empyrean II that are a bit brighter, and I like a more sparkly sound so Empyrean II it is. Thanks for saving me $1000! Maybe I'll get the 109 Pro as a bonus now! 🤣
I am eagerly anticipating the moment when I will be able to save up $3,000 and finally acquire mine. You also answered my question. If I could connect this to an xbox controller 👍🎮 really appreciative 😊
There will probably always be something in the pipeline, cant really fall for the FOMO especially when the Empy 1 is still a valid option. Also Meze has been dropping 1 big release per year essentially, so I wouldn't expect and Elite 2 for at minimum 1-2 years
I know people buy these expensive cans not exclusively for gaming, but since I discovered your channel through gaming content, why isn't there a gaming section? I mean if I have the money, I want to know the endgame upgrade path and don't want to spend that much if these are comparable with cheap gaming headsets in that area.
My man said $4000. Immediately stopped watching😂. Liked the video nonetheless 😁. Any update on the EQ video for Warzone 2? The Community needs you Brother.🍻
The sensitivity of the Elite is 101 dB (1 mW / 1 kHz), the specifications of the Empyrean II relate to 1V and you will find 105 dB SPL @ 1 kHz, 1 V on the official Meze Homepage. If you calculate this to mW, you will receive 90 dB (1mW / 1 kHz), so it is clear that the Empyrean II is not so loud as the Elite at the same level.
I'm debating on making a video for it but both are good for gaming. I like the Elite for racing games, but the Empyrean 2 for everything else. Mild 6-8k reduction and it's excellent
@@GadgetryTech I like your channel for the gaming and audio marriage. I too would have preferred a little more input on gaming. I also didn't get the vibe that you loved either one...thoughts seemed flat. Maybe the way I took it. You have really good reviews...I would like to see a follow up video, where you talk about gaming and how this compares to similarly priced headphones for music and gaming.
thats not a case...thats a whole briefcase which is way worse since now everyone gonna think you carry 1 million in cash there in public with no security
I traded my Elite for the Empyrean II . I found it to be a better all rounder. Also finally someone does a comprehensive comparison for these two! Awesome video 👌🏾👌🏾
How did you trade them? I'm wanting to do the same.
Beautiful headphones, great comprehensive review, thank you.
You deserve more subs!! Keep grinding
Fantastic review, thanks very much. Like another person suggested though, hearing what these sound like for gaming would be great too. FPS would probably have all of these as amazing, but namely normal single-player stuff would be good to hear more on.
A lot of these high-end headphones dont do well for that purpose because they're either too forward or too recessed in the mids for example. The Caldera is definitely one of them (I owned them for music and gaming, and may very well sell them for that reason)
For FPS, go get a pair of AKG K702s on the cheap or a pair of HD800s on the expensive. The K702/HD800 follow the 80/20 rule on soundstage, K702 is 80% as good for 20% of the price. Both would be way cheaper than a Meze.
Any idea how the Empyrean II compares to the ZMF Atrium?
Nowhere close. Slightly more resolving but Atrium has an addictive timbre wich you want to hear again and again. Empy 2 will not do that.
Test the hamonicDyne zeus elite, for me it's great for gaming
Could you possibly do a video of some good IEMs?
Nice video! Also, thanks for the EDM song rec, I don't usually listen to stuff like that, but I liked it
Love the comparisons with the he-1000se as I’ve been thinking of going for that as my detail monster headphone. I have an Empy 2 and a Caldera currently. So anyway, great job!
May I ask, what are your use cases for both The Caldera and empy 2 ? I have the Caldera and contemplating empy 2 but not sure what I would use them for over the Caldera
@@mikylenaidoo1779 I honestly couldn’t find one. I wanted to give the Empys a try and while that are a great set, I got rid of them cause the Caldera does virtually everything better. Empy II wins in bass slam and comfort, but it’s Caldera in everything else.
What I can see from the measurements an EQ bass shelf with the Alcantara pads would be interesting to hear, have you try that?
Are you still using the Turtle beach stealth pro EQ settings from your previous video or have you fine tuned further? Always love your reviews, very detailed and you are the only one i trust for audio!!!
Would like to know as well
Awesome review? Did you try the Elite hybrid pads on the Empyrean II? How did they measure in the upper-mids and the treble?
Having heard both of these at CJ, the Elite beats it handily for being more unique and more technically impressive. Empy II is too safe relative to the rest of their lineup, and it still doesn't warrant the price point technically.
First I wanna say thanks for a great review. My question is what are your EQ settings for the EMP 2 with the stock pads? Really looking forward to your answer. Cheers Fonz
Thank you very much!
Great review man! Personally my favorite is the OG Empyrean, (I wish you make a review with the OG Empy to….🙂🙏🏻) very unique, organic and lively sound. With Gustard R26 dac is even better, huge soundstage.
For gaming what pads is the best for
Meze Elite?
the driver in the Emp2 is actually the MZ3V2, the Elites use the MZ3SE and the original Empyrean uses the MZ3, i have no idea what the differences are.
May I ask where those headphone stands come from please?
I currently own Hifiman Edition XS. Due to my new job, and other factors, I've decided it's time to start giving serious thought about the next step. Giving it some thought, and reading/asking around, I decided the next step after the Edition XS is The Endgame. Something high end from Meze. Something that looks as good as it sounds. Something that will last forever, and fetch a pretty penny at my Estate Sale, when I have no kids to pass them down to. 😂For awhile, i wanted the Elites because they were a bit brighter than the original Empyrean. Now, it's the Empyrean II that are a bit brighter, and I like a more sparkly sound so Empyrean II it is. Thanks for saving me $1000! Maybe I'll get the 109 Pro as a bonus now! 🤣
I am eagerly anticipating the moment when I will be able to save up $3,000 and finally acquire mine. You also answered my question. If I could connect this to an xbox controller 👍🎮 really appreciative 😊
Great video as always. if you had to keep one, which one would it be?
Empyrean 2 was better for me for some of my music.
So I recently got the Empyrean 2's and am wondering if the Elite's are different enough to justify having both?
The question becomes, now that there is Empyrean 2, are they working on Elite 2?
There will probably always be something in the pipeline, cant really fall for the FOMO especially when the Empy 1 is still a valid option. Also Meze has been dropping 1 big release per year essentially, so I wouldn't expect and Elite 2 for at minimum 1-2 years
Please review denon d7200
I know people buy these expensive cans not exclusively for gaming, but since I discovered your channel through gaming content, why isn't there a gaming section? I mean if I have the money, I want to know the endgame upgrade path and don't want to spend that much if these are comparable with cheap gaming headsets in that area.
The he1000se is 2000$ since a while which is a bargain
Regarding the Emp II. being quieter despite being more sensitive - it’s likely because the ears are farther from the drivers due to deeper earpads.
Interestingly even when I pad swapped to thinner ones it was still difficult to pick up the sensitivity gains
My man said $4000. Immediately stopped watching😂. Liked the video nonetheless 😁. Any update on the EQ video for Warzone 2? The Community needs you Brother.🍻
I have nothing Meze - one day I'll change that.
Love that Rezz song... Try "Centipede" by Kermode one of my favorite test tracks.
which one has better detail retrieval; Empy 2, Elite, or HE1000SE ?
He1000se
the "new" oval pads are so much better... Elite's
The sensitivity of the Elite is 101 dB (1 mW / 1 kHz), the specifications of the Empyrean II relate to 1V and you will find 105 dB SPL @ 1 kHz, 1 V on the official Meze Homepage. If you calculate this to mW, you will receive 90 dB (1mW / 1 kHz), so it is clear that the Empyrean II is not so loud as the Elite at the same level.
I'm surprised that you didn't cover gaming performance
I'm debating on making a video for it but both are good for gaming. I like the Elite for racing games, but the Empyrean 2 for everything else. Mild 6-8k reduction and it's excellent
@@GadgetryTech I like your channel for the gaming and audio marriage. I too would have preferred a little more input on gaming. I also didn't get the vibe that you loved either one...thoughts seemed flat. Maybe the way I took it. You have really good reviews...I would like to see a follow up video, where you talk about gaming and how this compares to similarly priced headphones for music and gaming.
thats not a case...thats a whole briefcase which is way worse since now everyone gonna think you carry 1 million in cash there in public with no security
Would you prefer to buy it without a nice case?
For this price, I expect to feel Lady Gaga licking my ear when I listen to her songs.
Dank Pods frfr
yeet, 1st
Nailed it!!
2nd 😂
lol. "very niiiice"
Quality cans for a quality channel
328th
Empyrean 2 is just the better one of is meh and the elite isn’t better than the 2 it just isnt