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Justin nailed it by stating he's worried. He has good reason to be worried and you can be damn sure we're worried too. Both teams know the other can do a proper number on them. I'm not as anxious as the country felt in '95 but goddam am I scared and pumped for this weekends game.
I'll take the high road. I think we've got the team to do it that's not blind faith or arrogance or anything in between we know what SA will bring to the fight and no-way will it be a forgone. But again I'll back the Abs I'm confident they'll do the job.
@@rodeo4786 I don’t disagree. Haven’t checked the odds but if they’re making it 50/50 then my moneys on AB’s. Last weeks fatigue has a lot to do with it. Hopefully we’re recharged and give a good game.
Very different context, South Africa looked visibly tired during and after the semi final and ABs are fresh and injury free. It was the opposite in 2019, England expended a ton of energy to beat ABs. Eben was a non factor versus england, Kolisi was a non factor.
@@2011hwalker we looked tired after that last quarter final in 2019. I am not sure Eben and Siya are going to be non factors on Saturday... apparently you can be a non factor and still win !
Yawn .. Tindall's hatred of all things SA comes to the fore again.. remember his 2019 " if SA wins the WC it will be a travesty" comment?. Now on the French game "SA create nothing" forgetting about the three trys. I hope we win just so that he can cry into his royal cornflakes for another 4 years. Jussie, what a white side.
Absolute tool Tindell. Cant actually be objective and his analysis as a former player is awful. Marshall is another level, and was a great player who understands the Boks.
the Jerry Collins story made me think of the great Herschelle Gibbs's innings of 175 in the 438 game against Australia. Also out on the town till the sun came up.
You all seem to have serious memory loss, South Africa was in exactly the same position as NZ going into 2019. The two teams respect and challenge each other in equal measure, the rest of the wirld needs to catch up. 🇿🇦
As a Kiwi it is the ultimate test there is no greater challenge for a rugby player in our country, history, tradition all contribute to playing these matches, a RWC Final is the pinnacle. It will be a battle.
As a South African I can understand Mike's devastation at England's loss. They played superbly- Farrel, Steward, Curry and others were brilliant. South Africa played poorly until the 67th minute. I do not think the penalty decision is valid having watched from every angle it looked like a penalty to me. Having said that there were a few mistakes by O Keef on both sides and some also went against SA--especially in the first half! England only scored 3 points in the second half--they had quite a few opportunities to close out the match and take the referee out of it and they could not. They dominated South Africa playing exactly like SA used to play. After the try SA were always going to find a penalty if not that one before the end of the game. Probably the wrong team won on the night but the right team is in the final. I think England would have had little chance against the ABs in a final. I am glad Mike predicted an All Black win because he usually gets it wrong! I would fancy our chances if Ireland had got through but the ABs can thrash us on any given day, but if we win it will be close! Lets see what Rassie comes up with! He is the Steve Jobs of rugby--a bit crazy but a brilliant innovator! One point would do it for me--then there will probably be another week of moaning!
Superbly? We were and are a very very average team with a new coach a confused style. An average England team came with 90 seconds of knocking out the self proclaimed ‘best’.
In all fairness England should have won the game, but they did not. Average England team yes, but that was the best you have played all World Cup. Your hardest game was Argentina in the groups and well they did not even turn up. Fiji took you very close and you could argue you nicked that from them. Eng vs SA was the worst we have played lol World Cup. We have also had to play sides ranked in the top 6 to get to the final and we there. The AB’s are going to be a hard nut to crack but they a nut and we can crack them excuse the poor metaphor. Let’s just hope it’s a great game not like our last performance. 🇿🇦
Fans on social media are such a small part of the whole fanbase, so I agree it’s very rude to say we are all awful, I like this pod a lot but all the abuse Springbok teams /fans get is turning me into a troll too 🤣
Tindall’s dislike for South Africa is revealing. He clearly fears Springboks quality. Was he once humiliated by a South African team? I once met Nick Easter and he couldn’t praise South African rugby enough, the respect was off the charts.
Do you always comment on male podcasters looks? Or do you just reserve it for people who’ve achieved more in one lifetime that you could in a thousand.
@@kraaidievoel apologies mate my bad. Using the word covering is like saying they were helping him hide something or carrying him because he wasn't up to the job
On the “curfew” story, I would add Herschelle Gibbs before scoring 175 in the famous 438 game. If you haven’t yet, have a read of his autobiography about the night before that game
The English invented rugby and cricket but the people they oppressed are winning them. We won them saturday in rugby and cricket. We are a resilient nation and no matter what you guys say about the Springboks we are one team to be rekond with. English must play netball 😂😂
Bottom line, the ultimate world cup final is going to happen between the world's two greatest teams. Win or loose, there is massive respect between both team's and supporters.
SPRINGBOKS HAVE 58 MILLION SOUTH AFRICA SPORTING THEM Springboks are the only team to win the three world Cup finals they played in but did not play in 87 & 91, which they have done better than All Blacks. The Springboks have the team to win World Cup for the 4th time!!!!
Mike Tindall, your love affair with the Springboks is the stuff of legend....and not every Bok supporter is as arrogant as you claim. Marshy, so Rassie is not well liked by the players? Elaborate please?
Marshal always appreciate your unbiased views, great player and pundit! Tindall we know you don’t like 🇿🇦 and that’s okay bru, we don’t mind. This is going to be a great game and fine margins I’m sure. Come on the BOKKE 🇿🇦🤙🏼.
Like MARSHY said a bokka coach is never challenged. His way is the ONLY WAY and bokka players accept that. Kiwi mentality is all about adaptability .....so questions and game plans are a natural involvement of the TEAMs progression ...the Coach makes the final decisions from that input. He does have the last say...
@@teawaruaedwards274what nonsense. Springbok players are all about the team and do stand up against any coach who they believe is not acting in the best interest if the team and the Jersey. They eid so to Straueli and De Villiers. Under De Villiers it was Smit and other senior players who basically coached the team.
Thank you GBR, true legends of the game and go the mighty AB's... Noreira, i raro i te manaakitanga o te runga rawa, kia kaha, kia maia, kia manawanui koutou Te Kapa o Pango. Kua tae mai ano te wa Aotearoa, hei awhi, hei tautoko, hei karakia ma to matou nei Kapa ki tawhiti ra... Noreira, noho ora mai koutou katoa, paimarire...
Obviously some tipsy guys here mates but woowee - I think the below the belt smutsing of the Boks was below Tins and Justin's iconic status. A Bok supporter forgives and raises a glass anyway.
Its because they talk such a load of crap that they hate being criticised for the crap they pass off as rugby expertise. Nothing more than their own unmitigated biases. They never ever even rated the Boks to get to the final. And even after the back-to-back victory and four time winners they still find it hard to speak without revealing their begrudged biases and anti-Bok sentiment. I suppose up North they just hate it when they control the rules the venues and the allocation of referees while we take away the spoils of victory. Its the only way we can show them a finger.
Great discussion!! Justin's reflection of Brendan Venters approach of how the Bok's used to play is what has changed in the South African's approach and a great manifest of how they have changed since 2019. Also a big reason for Rassie's success. As a Saffer, you never under estimate the AB's or right them off in any tournament. imo SA will win as they can adjust and hopefully quickly adapt to the big pressures the AB's will bring to this Final as they did in the knock-out rounds. And,... yes playing against the AB's you are always worried for 80 long minutes. From a spectator angle, hopefully we are treated to a rugby event for the history books. Both Teams have exceptional talent for doing doing just that..... As far as loosing , prefer loosing against NZ than Ireland, England or France any day! :)
He was always going to struggle to be selected for the sky sport rwc commentary team, they know he would spend much of the tournament on the sauce and his altercation with Akira in 2022 and a lot of the bs he has talked about fossie, cane and others means he doesn't have a great relationship with the ab camp.
"For the good of the game please let the AB's win" - Tindall. All that statement reveals is just how much Tindall dislikes SA, other than that it makes no sense. SA beat England because they are a better team, get over it.
Exactly! What is the good of the game? I want south africa to win coz inspires a nation, inspire a young boy to pick up a rugby ball instead of a gun or drugs, this is what we are playing for
They want the game to be a cross between 7s and league. The game has attracted new viewers because of the physicality. Need to speak to Elon Musk to keep scrums in rugby union 😁 😂
I'm from South Africa, my name is Yusuf...I think your show is absolutely brilliant. Your knowledge about this beautiful game is outstanding....love your show and long may it continue. ❤ PS. You guys are much better than the Australian version 😂
Love the banter 😂 especially since the panels hung over and half cut 💯 brilliant.....if the boks win it will be hard as a AB fan but after watching all the rugby podcasts and talking to our SA fans i wouldnt want any other team to win , the genuine respect they show towards the black jersey is humbling 👍 ..LETS GO BLACKS 💪🇬🇸🥇💯
Great to watch and to listen to the commentary and banter. There is a lot of rugby knowledge around the table which makes it both interesting and entertaining. There is understandably still a lot of pain all around after the devastating loss of England against the Boks on Saturday. One can sense the disappointment still lingering in the air. That being said as a South African, rather than being compared to a mosquito I’d much rather think that it would be more closer to home, especially for our English friends in the panel, to compare us with a Staffordshire Bull Terrier - a tenacious but vicious foe that never gives up and who always punch way above its weight. Just like Mike said, we South Africans don’t like to lose. But then as my father also said, a good loser is a frequent loser. It is exactly that fighting spirit that makes us such a force to be reckoned with, and so dangerous. It is the same tenacity that made the British crown also underestimate the Boer farmers during the Anglo Boer War. I’m looking forward to listening to the show again after this weekend’s final. Especially since I was also in the stands at Ellispark during the last time that these two great teams met at a RWC Final and the boks clinched the Cup after refusing to give up.
"punch above its weight" What the hell are you talking about,? Until 97 we led the ABs who until then had never won a series in SA. We won there in 1949, 3/0. After our period of adjustment to re-entry and politics, we're back where we were for decades. Four out of four times world champions, back to back and number 1 in the world. Rugby history not your string point.
Great pod guys. Reminiscent of pods in 2019. Writing off the bok's after England beat Aus and NZ on the trot. A section of my countrymen will be impossible to live with if we win but I guess for each one of them there's also at three that live in townships that could use that champion feeling. Go bokke
Saffa and blood is green Springboks supporter here. Listening to Justin Marshall telling how about 6 senior players pitched up in defense of Fossie... Huge respect for those players.
Hmmm. Marshall’s take on the ‘regimented’ style of SA coaching is a bit off. Schalk Brits said on the RWC pod today that Rassie empowers players to make their own decisions…encourages it. You don’t steal a QF and SF like we did without being resourceful and thinking outside the box.
Oh please, please Boks please win if only to get seriously right up Mike Tindell’s nose. So now he’s hating less on the South African rugby players and putting all that belligerence on South African supporters with some kind of stupid imitation of what a South African fan looks and sounds like. I hate stooping to his level but I’m doing it.
Nobody can afford his time to get him on this sort of thing anymore. Despite how he comes across on camera, he's actually a clever and very wealthy businessman
Du Pont doesn't get any sanctions or fines for blaming the ref. When other teams do it World Rugby steps in fast. No wonder the French feel that they have the right to treat Ben like shit cause Antionette and World Rugby said it's ok in the minds of the French. I don't blame the French I blame World Rugby and Ben should be pissed off for being thrown under the bus like this. You could clearly see his bias in that first half!
Obviously, but is that good or bad....also one less rest day for SA. Argentina was not exactly stressful for NZ. Boks have the best rotation in the world keeping that pack fresh, which is going to be better than anyone else anyway. AB's technically are the only team that can handle the SA scrum, not in overall power though.
to All you jabbers !!! if England and France were so good !!! Where were the GOALS. South Africa is world class ! We do what works for us !! We do we ! Stop concentrating on us ! You Do You
Brilliant. Totally blootered. Mike seems to have been pished all RWC. I haven’t really seen my wife the whole tournament. And I’ve only been in the house and at the boozer
With the Rugby World Cup drawing to a close and in the aftermath of the Springbok/England match, I would like to teach the English rugby commentators, columnists, and supporters one Afrikaans word, which is very applicable in the current situation. “Bitterpis” is an Afrikaans word. A direct translation into English would be bitter pee. Bitterpis refers to an attitude, words, and actions of bitterness, negativity, and cynicism fueled by feelings of failure, despair, inferiority, incompetence, envy, etc. The word can be used as a noun as well as an adverb. Therefore, people like Warren Gatland, Mike Tindall, Sir Clive, Mat Williams, and many other English commentators can be described as a bitterpis, while their comments are simply bitterpis. A bitterpis will always deny the facts and find excuses why things did not go their way. South Africa is playing in the World Cup final of 2023, and England, France, and Wales are not. In fact, no Northern Hemisphere team reached the final. Those are the facts, like it or not! Please, stop being (a) bitterpis!
The fact they say Rassie isn’t well liked by South Africans is wildly incorrect and just downright wrong. We absolutely love him. Yet again rugby media bagging the springboks and South Africans 🤡
Jordan, " the best player in the world" until Kolbe picks him up, spins him around and gently puts him down after Kwagga takes the ball out of his hands, like candy from a baby.😂
I always feel people don't know how to read stats when it comes to SA. They keep winning games that they statistically should be losing which means they are looking at other parameters. the "missed tackle" stat has been crazy high for 4 years compared to other tier one nations but teams are being tackled backwards against the boks so are they really missed tackles or is that stat calculated wrong. Run meters - SA tries to play without the ball as much as possible waiting for the opp to mess up so of course their run meters will be less. Also when SA lost games trying things like the French game in 2022 or the second Wales test, SA is playing poorly but when the All Blacks get rolled it's because they have a cunning plan....
Regarding missed tackles ....if 3 players tackle one, 2 slowing him down and one taking him down, is that 2 missed tackles and one made? I think so technically. Other teams would only have one tackler, maybe 2. The Boks line speed stat is number one in the works, you're going to get a lot of half tackles with that
@@andy_oliveIf your line speeds is so fast that one player is getting his hands on a player and allowing him down, that's a missed tackle but technically, it's not tackle, it's a tactic like you say but you can't being someone down so easily in the open field, you can however get on them faster than any other team and create havoc, either they make a minimal gain, go nowhere or even backwards. SA has the fastest line speed to the tackle in the world, the AB's have the fastest time to breakdown in the world ...what a matchup.
@@marcdaniels9079You don't follow the game so you, especially not the Boks. Winning world cups is what it's all about. Rassie has spent 4 yrs experimenting and implementing. Yes, there have been some losses but still in the top 4 always. Now....well we've beaten the top 6 ranked teams in the world.
France should have won because they 'deserved' it. England because the were 'heroic'. NZ because of their 'great style'. South Africa: we dont lose finals...
Gosh lots has changed in South Africa since the Brendan Venter times 😂 some things may still apply but on the whole its quite different. Some old rugby players might not like Rassie but as a coach for the current team and fans he is very popular.
@@marcdaniels9079 bud you cant ignore everything and everyone in life hey... Its fun watching ignorant, arrogant people with a lack of depth get proven wrong time and time again..
This pod reflects everything good about rugby, the nationalism, the socialising after the games, the people from different walks of life, mutual respect, good will banter, not taking life to seriously, leaving everything on the field, the love of the game etc. All team's have one eyed fans, poor losers and arrogant arse holes. Maybe some more than most😂. But that makes up the tapestry of the game. Rugby is a balance of speed, accuracy, discipline and power. Need all four to be a great team and hopefully for NZ they get the power right but I think they won't and might lose. South Africa to win 😅.
Hi all, After watching this, my respect for the England team has gone right down to Tindell's level.. I am ashamed that Tindell said what he said, and is basically taking things very personally, when after all winning at rugby is a business, and the business is to win at all costs. A bit like the British Empire of old, where their scorched earth policies on most of the world at the time was acceptable. He forgets that South Africa is no longer a 1st world nation and the fact that South Africa actually has a team that can win against 1st world nations, is in itself astounding, considering all the shit that the country has been going through the last 25 years or more. He obviously lacks self-respect in every aspect, without empathy, where brawn is his only brain-power, I bet he is as malicious at home as he is on the field, the kind of guy who hates losing in any way. One thing I have noticed is that no-one here mentioned the fact that South Africa cricket and rugby teams beat England on the same day. HAHAHA - another thing I have noticed across all English sportsman/teams, that they are the worst losers ever, they are just unable to take a fair beating. South Africa, I have to congratulate your massive humbleness, throughout the RWC, no fans were on your side at any of the matches, and you managed to break though with very little support throughout this event, except from the SA fans that managed to be able to afford to be there. You deserve this win by all accounts. One last thing, if one looks back at any English game, you will find the dirtiest players in the game, and always throwing the first punches, and then run crying to the ref to sort it out....what a bunch of softies!!!! The LIONS used to be a team worth considering, not today...Springboks has just received a new fan, that's me. If you lose on Saturday, just remember, at least it would be to a worthy opponent. The END.
I love how Tindall seems to always get the wrong read before a RWC. Talks about Will Jordan being the best player, only to be limited to 11 meters made in the final and dominated by Cheslin Kolbe.
Well Marshy have been socializing with proper respect full South African that carried him home when he could not walk by himself. Tindall was also at that lunch that is why I am surprised he is in 1 piece
100% and he’s not the only one 😂😂😂 I’ve noticed that every podcast or show during the World Cup, there’s been a slow decline in the health and wellbeing of all the host’s and guests. It seems all the ex players no matter the nationality are just having a constant party in France.
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Saying the boys don’t like Rassie is insane 😂
Exactly!
Rassie is our man fr the time the boys love Rassie he is more like a father to them
Everyone loves Rassie!
I wouldn't agree. And you definitely have no clue.
Justin Marshall is an absolute legend, ❤️ from a saffa.
Justin nailed it by stating he's worried. He has good reason to be worried and you can be damn sure we're worried too. Both teams know the other can do a proper number on them. I'm not as anxious as the country felt in '95 but goddam am I scared and pumped for this weekends game.
I'm as anxious as 95
@@GavinMaGrath I’m not in SA so that has a great way of not ramping up my anxiety I recon.
I'll take the high road. I think we've got the team to do it that's not blind faith or arrogance or anything in between we know what SA will bring to the fight and no-way will it be a forgone. But again I'll back the Abs I'm confident they'll do the job.
@@rodeo4786 I don’t disagree. Haven’t checked the odds but if they’re making it 50/50 then my moneys on AB’s. Last weeks fatigue has a lot to do with it. Hopefully we’re recharged and give a good game.
Fatigue doesn't really suit our winning game plan.
Justin Marshall is a legend! He's been on a few podcasts today hungover as hell, and still great value for money.
He’s a muppet. No one likes his rugby commentary in NZ. He was dropped by every network as he always talks too much rubbish and is too confident.
He’s always hungover😂😂😂👏👏
Thanks Marshall for being honest especially when it comes to the Springboks
This is exactly how the boks were written off 2019
Just love it🙃🙃
Very different context, South Africa looked visibly tired during and after the semi final and ABs are fresh and injury free. It was the opposite in 2019, England expended a ton of energy to beat ABs. Eben was a non factor versus england, Kolisi was a non factor.
@@2011hwalker we shall see come Saturday
@@2011hwalker we looked tired after that last quarter final in 2019. I am not sure Eben and Siya are going to be non factors on Saturday... apparently you can be a non factor and still win !
Who wrote them off? Which minute?
Yawn .. Tindall's hatred of all things SA comes to the fore again.. remember his 2019 " if SA wins the WC it will be a travesty" comment?. Now on the French game "SA create nothing" forgetting about the three trys. I hope we win just so that he can cry into his royal cornflakes for another 4 years. Jussie, what a white side.
When it comes to talking about South Africa, Tindall can be a bit of a “wit kant” can’t he.
tindall Full of envy for south África because they are a good team!!!!!he is just a plank and a useless PLANK
😂As a Kiwi who understands some Afrikaans
“For the good of the game” from a former England player is rich. They play the negativist rugby of all
“Wyd kant” too.
@@dollydollydolly7277Tindall is just a miserable kant.
10:45 the look on Tindall’s face, one part disgust and other part bitterness with a dash of envy 👹
Tindall spouting off about, for the good of the game? Doubt he'd be saying that if england were in the final.
England played the style of rugby everyone hates to beat the Boks but all of sudden it's ok. This good of the game BS is actually bad for the game !
Absolute tool Tindell. Cant actually be objective and his analysis as a former player is awful. Marshall is another level, and was a great player who understands the Boks.
The moral custodianship is such ego-centric horseshit.
the Jerry Collins story made me think of the great Herschelle Gibbs's innings of 175 in the 438 game against Australia. Also out on the town till the sun came up.
When Men were Men …
Guys, general consensus in SA was always that there was going to be an SA-NZ final, it's the way we play. It's what we wanted, it's a true contest.
You all seem to have serious memory loss, South Africa was in exactly the same position as NZ going into 2019. The two teams respect and challenge each other in equal measure, the rest of the wirld needs to catch up. 🇿🇦
As a Kiwi it is the ultimate test there is no greater challenge for a rugby player in our country, history, tradition all contribute to playing these matches, a RWC Final is the pinnacle. It will be a battle.
Marshall has been on a few shows today knocking some back, he looks knackered.
Justin is just a legend!!!
Justin Marshall is the best commentator hands down....Knows the game and Objective
As a South African I can understand Mike's devastation at England's loss. They played superbly- Farrel, Steward, Curry and others were brilliant. South Africa played poorly until the 67th minute. I do not think the penalty decision is valid having watched from every angle it looked like a penalty to me. Having said that there were a few mistakes by O Keef on both sides and some also went against SA--especially in the first half! England only scored 3 points in the second half--they had quite a few opportunities to close out the match and take the referee out of it and they could not. They dominated South Africa playing exactly like SA used to play. After the try SA were always going to find a penalty if not that one before the end of the game. Probably the wrong team won on the night but the right team is in the final. I think England would have had little chance against the ABs in a final. I am glad Mike predicted an All Black win because he usually gets it wrong! I would fancy our chances if Ireland had got through but the ABs can thrash us on any given day, but if we win it will be close! Lets see what Rassie comes up with! He is the Steve Jobs of rugby--a bit crazy but a brilliant innovator! One point would do it for me--then there will probably be another week of moaning!
Superbly? We were and are a very very average team with a new coach a confused style. An average England team came with 90 seconds of knocking out the self proclaimed ‘best’.
To beat the All Blacks, Bokka have to improve 100% from their England win, to even get close.
In all fairness England should have won the game, but they did not.
Average England team yes, but that was the best you have played all World Cup. Your hardest game was Argentina in the groups and well they did not even turn up. Fiji took you very close and you could argue you nicked that from them.
Eng vs SA was the worst we have played lol World Cup. We have also had to play sides ranked in the top 6 to get to the final and we there.
The AB’s are going to be a hard nut to crack but they a nut and we can crack them excuse the poor metaphor.
Let’s just hope it’s a great game not like our last performance. 🇿🇦
@@TheDandob1982"Self proclaimed best"?
That didn't age well 😂
@@petes9524 What do you mean? Lots of fans did proclaim you were the best. Which part of my statement was inaccurate?
As an All Black fan I didn't want to verse SA in the final, but as a Rugby fan there is no greater spectacle
Exactly. As a South African we would have loved to have played Argentina.
The hate Tindall has for South African fans is insane. He gets paid for his opinion so each to their own I suppose.
Entitled semi Royal!
Fans on social media are such a small part of the whole fanbase, so I agree it’s very rude to say we are all awful, I like this pod a lot but all the abuse Springbok teams /fans get is turning me into a troll too 🤣
Apparently we live rent free in his head🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tindall’s dislike for South Africa is revealing. He clearly fears Springboks quality. Was he once humiliated by a South African team?
I once met Nick Easter and he couldn’t praise South African rugby enough, the respect was off the charts.
To be fair, Tindall has reasons for it. The boks can be dirty AF.
MT has become so bitter 😂. It was his team that bought the 'so-called' negative game on to Saturday's pitch.
Tindall looks like he should be ringing the bells at notre dame
Do you always comment on male podcasters looks? Or do you just reserve it for people who’ve achieved more in one lifetime that you could in a thousand.
@@TheDandob1982hi mike
@@jemsalmonphotography What?
@@jemsalmonphotographybro that's like hi Shane 🤣
MSSP
Made me laugh out loud 😂
Is Hask snorting lines?
Probably.
He’s an airhead, yes. HIGHLY likely!!🥴🤣
Sadly yes. Poor twit.
@@rupertmarx4750highly likely
Shitaly 😂
So so difficult for these Poms to give South Africa credit!
I like what JM said about the AB players covering for their coach...
It's not covering it's supporting and being a team. They were there and doing it, JM was on the outer talking bs like a lot of the press to get views.
@dink.... I think you misunderstood me I meant supporting
@@kraaidievoel apologies mate my bad. Using the word covering is like saying they were helping him hide something or carrying him because he wasn't up to the job
On the “curfew” story, I would add Herschelle Gibbs before scoring 175 in the famous 438 game. If you haven’t yet, have a read of his autobiography about the night before that game
The English invented rugby and cricket but the people they oppressed are winning them. We won them saturday in rugby and cricket. We are a resilient nation and no matter what you guys say about the Springboks we are one team to be rekond with. English must play netball 😂😂
Bottom line, the ultimate world cup final is going to happen between the world's two greatest teams. Win or loose, there is massive respect between both team's and supporters.
SPRINGBOKS HAVE 58 MILLION
SOUTH AFRICA SPORTING THEM
Springboks are the only team to win
the three world Cup finals they played in
but did not play in 87 & 91, which they have done
better than All Blacks.
The Springboks have the team to
win World Cup for the 4th time!!!!
Mike Tindall, your love affair with the Springboks is the stuff of legend....and not every Bok supporter is as arrogant as you claim.
Marshy, so Rassie is not well liked by the players? Elaborate please?
Marshal always appreciate your unbiased views, great player and pundit! Tindall we know you don’t like 🇿🇦 and that’s okay bru, we don’t mind.
This is going to be a great game and fine margins I’m sure.
Come on the BOKKE 🇿🇦🤙🏼.
SA fans are being kants to Tindall because he is being a kant towards them.
Indeed! Tindall is on the wrong Kant of history here!😂
Lol. Tindall is a proper kant
He is a wit kant met n rooi nek.😂😂😂. Lost all my respect for Tindall when he started vomiting shit about SA. I am surprised to see he is there
I kant believe you just said that
We'll at least Curry's given us days of laughter. Gosh, I hope that Bongi is not banned 😥
In Rassie, we BELIEVE 🇿🇦🏆🏉
Like MARSHY said a bokka coach is never challenged. His way is the ONLY WAY and bokka players accept that.
Kiwi mentality is all about adaptability .....so questions and game plans are a natural involvement of the TEAMs progression ...the Coach makes the final decisions from that input. He does have the last say...
Rassie had a ONE-POINT PLAN all along!😂👏🏻
@@teawaruaedwards274what nonsense. Springbok players are all about the team and do stand up against any coach who they believe is not acting in the best interest if the team and the Jersey. They eid so to Straueli and De Villiers. Under De Villiers it was Smit and other senior players who basically coached the team.
Thank you GBR, true legends of the game and go the mighty AB's... Noreira, i raro i te manaakitanga o te runga rawa, kia kaha, kia maia, kia manawanui koutou Te Kapa o Pango.
Kua tae mai ano te wa Aotearoa, hei awhi, hei tautoko, hei karakia ma to matou nei Kapa ki tawhiti ra... Noreira, noho ora mai koutou katoa, paimarire...
Obviously some tipsy guys here mates but woowee - I think the below the belt smutsing of the Boks was below Tins and Justin's iconic status. A Bok supporter forgives and raises a glass anyway.
Mike Tindall is such a CRINGE. He needs to be excommunicated by the Royal Family. Tindall=Prince Harry. #TindallLacksClass 🤮
Justin Marshall, solid man, great All Black,, calm head, respect..
South African supporter here, Tindal we are nice guys dude, what's the matter with you.
Its because they talk such a load of crap that they hate being criticised for the crap they pass off as rugby expertise. Nothing more than their own unmitigated biases. They never ever even rated the Boks to get to the final. And even after the back-to-back victory and four time winners they still find it hard to speak without revealing their begrudged biases and anti-Bok sentiment. I suppose up North they just hate it when they control the rules the venues and the allocation of referees while we take away the spoils of victory. Its the only way we can show them a finger.
And it hurts.
Great discussion!! Justin's reflection of Brendan Venters approach of how the Bok's used to play is what has changed in the South African's approach and a great manifest of how they have changed since 2019. Also a big reason for Rassie's success. As a Saffer, you never under estimate the AB's or right them off in any tournament. imo SA will win as they can adjust and hopefully quickly adapt to the big pressures the AB's will bring to this Final as they did in the knock-out rounds. And,... yes playing against the AB's you are always worried for 80 long minutes. From a spectator angle, hopefully we are treated to a rugby event for the history books. Both Teams have exceptional talent for doing doing just that..... As far as loosing , prefer loosing against NZ than Ireland, England or France any day! :)
Amen, southern hemisphere all day!!!!
Thanks for all the pods guys! Great job.
Great channel guys. I know deep down Mike, really wants the Springboks to win. So we all cool. Lets go BOKKE! 🇿🇦
Hey Tindall how’s the grapes?💚🤣👊🏾🇿🇦😘
The epic final lived up to what history said it would be.
Congrats both teams.
Marshys lucky Supersport took him over otherwise he would’ve had to be on his best behaviour with SkyNZ 😂
He was always going to struggle to be selected for the sky sport rwc commentary team, they know he would spend much of the tournament on the sauce and his altercation with Akira in 2022 and a lot of the bs he has talked about fossie, cane and others means he doesn't have a great relationship with the ab camp.
@@drinkdrinkdrunk they don’t like honesty funny that.
"For the good of the game please let the AB's win" - Tindall. All that statement reveals is just how much Tindall dislikes SA, other than that it makes no sense. SA beat England because they are a better team, get over it.
Tindall is a sad tw@t isn’t he. 🥴
Exactly! What is the good of the game? I want south africa to win coz inspires a nation, inspire a young boy to pick up a rugby ball instead of a gun or drugs, this is what we are playing for
No it doesn’t - it means the beautiful game vs the brutal boring game (to some) It’s like Brazil vs Germany in football WC
They want the game to be a cross between 7s and league. The game has attracted new viewers because of the physicality.
Need to speak to Elon Musk to keep scrums in rugby union 😁 😂
Nah ah, I love his crying. I hope he never gets over it. I live for hearing how much he dislikes us.
look at tindall face when Marshall speak about pollard kkkkkkkkk ENVY IN HIS EYES!!! CANT HIDE IT 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
I'm from South Africa, my name is Yusuf...I think your show is absolutely brilliant. Your knowledge about this beautiful game is outstanding....love your show and long may it continue. ❤
PS. You guys are much better than the Australian version 😂
When hell freezes over. GBRA all day everyday
Love the banter 😂 especially since the panels hung over and half cut 💯 brilliant.....if the boks win it will be hard as a AB fan but after watching all the rugby podcasts and talking to our SA fans i wouldnt want any other team to win , the genuine respect they show towards the black jersey is humbling 👍 ..LETS GO BLACKS 💪🇬🇸🥇💯
I think you need to get Marshall on more often. He was quality and added a lot to the programme.
Great to watch and to listen to the commentary and banter. There is a lot of rugby knowledge around the table which makes it both interesting and entertaining. There is understandably still a lot of pain all around after the devastating loss of England against the Boks on Saturday. One can sense the disappointment still lingering in the air.
That being said as a South African, rather than being compared to a mosquito I’d much rather think that it would be more closer to home, especially for our English friends in the panel, to compare us with a Staffordshire Bull Terrier - a tenacious but vicious foe that never gives up and who always punch way above its weight. Just like Mike said, we South Africans don’t like to lose. But then as my father also said, a good loser is a frequent loser.
It is exactly that fighting spirit that makes us such a force to be reckoned with, and so dangerous. It is the same tenacity that made the British crown also underestimate the Boer farmers during the Anglo Boer War. I’m looking forward to listening to the show again after this weekend’s final. Especially since I was also in the stands at Ellispark during the last time that these two great teams met at a RWC Final and the boks clinched the Cup after refusing to give up.
"punch above its weight" What the hell are you talking about,?
Until 97 we led the ABs who until then had never won a series in SA. We won there in 1949, 3/0.
After our period of adjustment to re-entry and politics, we're back where we were for decades. Four out of four times world champions, back to back and number 1 in the world.
Rugby history not your string point.
49:12 Haskell liked that quite a bit, look at his reaction afterwards lol. Just banter btw people, just good ole banter.
Its good that APayno is there and keeps everything on track. Great to hear from Justin Marshall, always plenty of intel! X
Great pod guys. Reminiscent of pods in 2019. Writing off the bok's after England beat Aus and NZ on the trot. A section of my countrymen will be impossible to live with if we win but I guess for each one of them there's also at three that live in townships that could use that champion feeling. Go bokke
Where were they written off?
I’m supporting Boks since 95 Andre Jubert best FB ever! I’m Welsh 🏴
Saffa and blood is green Springboks supporter here. Listening to Justin Marshall telling how about 6 senior players pitched up in defense of Fossie... Huge respect for those players.
Hmmm. Marshall’s take on the ‘regimented’ style of SA coaching is a bit off. Schalk Brits said on the RWC pod today that Rassie empowers players to make their own decisions…encourages it. You don’t steal a QF and SF like we did without being resourceful and thinking outside the box.
35:59 That is the reason why South African Afrikaaners make good soldiers then.
Oh please, please Boks please win if only to get seriously right up Mike Tindell’s nose. So now he’s hating less on the South African rugby players and putting all that belligerence on South African supporters with some kind of stupid imitation of what a South African fan looks and sounds like. I hate stooping to his level but I’m doing it.
The blokes look like they are suffering . Don't miss being hungover . Excellent commentary boys, keep it up 👍
It was great to see Justin on the show, very entertaining. You should ask Marc Ellis on in person.
Nobody can afford his time to get him on this sort of thing anymore. Despite how he comes across on camera, he's actually a clever and very wealthy businessman
Du Pont doesn't get any sanctions or fines for blaming the ref. When other teams do it World Rugby steps in fast. No wonder the French feel that they have the right to treat Ben like shit cause Antionette and World Rugby said it's ok in the minds of the French. I don't blame the French I blame World Rugby and Ben should be pissed off for being thrown under the bus like this. You could clearly see his bias in that first half!
Why is Justin Marshall zapping us while holding the mike @8:38 to 9:27??? 😂😂😂
Boks had hardest road to final. Fact.
Oh absolutely!
They have, very different from their previous world cup wins
Obviously, but is that good or bad....also one less rest day for SA. Argentina was not exactly stressful for NZ.
Boks have the best rotation in the world keeping that pack fresh, which is going to be better than anyone else anyway. AB's technically are the only team that can handle the SA scrum, not in overall power though.
Nobody cares except Bok fans
@@marcdaniels9079 you again. 💩
Tindall is really salty and a bad loser. Hates SA just for the sake of it. That's why I prefer GBRA.
to All you jabbers !!! if England and France were so good !!! Where were the GOALS. South Africa is world class ! We do what works for us !! We do we ! Stop concentrating on us ! You Do You
This will be the last rugby World Cup so glad it’s these two teams
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How does Tindall get away with being permanently pis$ed on tour?! Doesn't he have kids
Brilliant. Totally blootered. Mike seems to have been pished all RWC. I haven’t really seen my wife the whole tournament. And I’ve only been in the house and at the boozer
Tindall is an affront to his in-laws. What a classless idiot. 👎🏻
Wonder who your wife's been seeing
MT just cannot move on……
Rassie answed for what he did when he made that video . Why not Du Pont double standards
Sad that there is so much hatred for South Africa especially coming from a specific person on that panel that I usually like. Really sad.
With the Rugby World Cup drawing to a close and in the aftermath of the Springbok/England match, I would like to teach the English rugby commentators, columnists, and supporters one Afrikaans word, which is very applicable in the current situation.
“Bitterpis” is an Afrikaans word. A direct translation into English would be bitter pee. Bitterpis refers to an attitude, words, and actions of bitterness, negativity, and cynicism fueled by feelings of failure, despair, inferiority, incompetence, envy, etc.
The word can be used as a noun as well as an adverb. Therefore, people like Warren Gatland, Mike Tindall, Sir Clive, Mat Williams, and many other English commentators can be described as a bitterpis, while their comments are simply bitterpis.
A bitterpis will always deny the facts and find excuses why things did not go their way. South Africa is playing in the World Cup final of 2023, and England, France, and Wales are not. In fact, no Northern Hemisphere team reached the final. Those are the facts, like it or not!
Please, stop being (a) bitterpis!
As a Kiwi "Ja precis" lol
What on earth are you talking about? .... The vast majority of us just continued living our lives 🤦♂️
Justin Marshall fair comments… yes England need to improve their attitude towards the refs.. no manners and entitled.
Tindall still sitting with a mouthful of sour grapes.... 'for the good of the game' ??
Go Fozzie bring home that Cup.
Well done chaps .. I've really enjoyed your entertainment between games ..
Awesome pod, great craic all round with fantastic insights. Good banter from Justine and the boys :)
The fact they say Rassie isn’t well liked by South Africans is wildly incorrect and just downright wrong. We absolutely love him. Yet again rugby media bagging the springboks and South Africans 🤡
Marshall calling Foster petulant is laughabley transparent.
His credibility is waning before our eyes.
Shame really, as he's a decent rugby analyst.
Jordan, " the best player in the world" until Kolbe picks him up, spins him around and gently puts him down after Kwagga takes the ball out of his hands, like candy from a baby.😂
Your Rugby Show is the most entertaining & knowledgable , great to watch guys , best wishes John (NZ)
I always feel people don't know how to read stats when it comes to SA. They keep winning games that they statistically should be losing which means they are looking at other parameters. the "missed tackle" stat has been crazy high for 4 years compared to other tier one nations but teams are being tackled backwards against the boks so are they really missed tackles or is that stat calculated wrong. Run meters - SA tries to play without the ball as much as possible waiting for the opp to mess up so of course their run meters will be less. Also when SA lost games trying things like the French game in 2022 or the second Wales test, SA is playing poorly but when the All Blacks get rolled it's because they have a cunning plan....
Regarding missed tackles ....if 3 players tackle one, 2 slowing him down and one taking him down, is that 2 missed tackles and one made? I think so technically. Other teams would only have one tackler, maybe 2. The Boks line speed stat is number one in the works, you're going to get a lot of half tackles with that
@@GavinMaGrath probably but then is it a good number to look at? because a missed tackle is a mistake while a 3 man tackle is a tactic.
They haven’t won many games at all in the Rugby Championship in the last 20 years though. NZ 14 - SA 3😅
@@andy_oliveIf your line speeds is so fast that one player is getting his hands on a player and allowing him down, that's a missed tackle but technically, it's not tackle, it's a tactic like you say but you can't being someone down so easily in the open field, you can however get on them faster than any other team and create havoc, either they make a minimal gain, go nowhere or even backwards. SA has the fastest line speed to the tackle in the world, the AB's have the fastest time to breakdown in the world ...what a matchup.
@@marcdaniels9079You don't follow the game so you, especially not the Boks. Winning world cups is what it's all about. Rassie has spent 4 yrs experimenting and implementing. Yes, there have been some losses but still in the top 4 always. Now....well we've beaten the top 6 ranked teams in the world.
France should have won because they 'deserved' it.
England because the were 'heroic'.
NZ because of their 'great style'.
South Africa: we dont lose finals...
Marshy's deep in the beers maaayyyte
Gosh lots has changed in South Africa since the Brendan Venter times 😂 some things may still apply but on the whole its quite different. Some old rugby players might not like Rassie but as a coach for the current team and fans he is very popular.
you think Springboks wont lose a game for the greater or bigger picture then you dont know Saffas mates
You guys are great...always giving us a reminder of why the English are hated..!!!.
So why TF do you watch it then ? 😅
@@marcdaniels9079 bud you cant ignore everything and everyone in life hey... Its fun watching ignorant, arrogant people with a lack of depth get proven wrong time and time again..
Respect to Justin Marshall for not being afraid to point out Dupont's poor behavior.
How do I watch or listen to the lock in am I being daft guys
If NZ wins...Fossie gets a chance to say thank you...stick your job where the sun don't shine. Shame, such a nice bloke. However, GO BOKKE 👊💪💚💛🇿🇦
Excited for this final, i hope my Wallabies can turn up in four years.
The big thing for me is that South Africa didn’t win. They jut refused to lose!
Go the All Blacks!!!!
Can't wait for Sunday morning here
in Queensland Gold Coast Australia
Entitled Tindall saying entitled bull. Is he and his side kick the best commentary they can trot out.
This pod reflects everything good about rugby, the nationalism, the socialising after the games, the people from different walks of life, mutual respect, good will banter, not taking life to seriously, leaving everything on the field, the love of the game etc. All team's have one eyed fans, poor losers and arrogant arse holes. Maybe some more than most😂. But that makes up the tapestry of the game.
Rugby is a balance of speed, accuracy, discipline and power. Need all four to be a great team and hopefully for NZ they get the power right but I think they won't and might lose. South Africa to win 😅.
Hi all,
After watching this, my respect for the England team has gone right down to Tindell's level.. I am ashamed that Tindell said what he said, and is basically taking things very personally, when after all winning at rugby is a business, and the business is to win at all costs. A bit like the British Empire of old, where their scorched earth policies on most of the world at the time was acceptable. He forgets that South Africa is no longer a 1st world nation and the fact that South Africa actually has a team that can win against 1st world nations, is in itself astounding, considering all the shit that the country has been going through the last 25 years or more. He obviously lacks self-respect in every aspect, without empathy, where brawn is his only brain-power, I bet he is as malicious at home as he is on the field, the kind of guy who hates losing in any way. One thing I have noticed is that no-one here mentioned the fact that South Africa cricket and rugby teams beat England on the same day. HAHAHA - another thing I have noticed across all English sportsman/teams, that they are the worst losers ever, they are just unable to take a fair beating. South Africa, I have to congratulate your massive humbleness, throughout the RWC, no fans were on your side at any of the matches, and you managed to break though with very little support throughout this event, except from the SA fans that managed to be able to afford to be there. You deserve this win by all accounts. One last thing, if one looks back at any English game, you will find the dirtiest players in the game, and always throwing the first punches, and then run crying to the ref to sort it out....what a bunch of softies!!!! The LIONS used to be a team worth considering, not today...Springboks has just received a new fan, that's me. If you lose on Saturday, just remember, at least it would be to a worthy opponent. The END.
ABs will be as consistent in every aspect of the game as ever, but the Boks will want it more.
Boks win
Good episode this one, good humour and banter.
Farrell wasn’t nonchalant it came across as sheer arrogance.
I love how Tindall seems to always get the wrong read before a RWC. Talks about Will Jordan being the best player, only to be limited to 11 meters made in the final and dominated by Cheslin Kolbe.
I listen all the rugby podcasts - gawd the English are so biased. How did you get involved here, Marshy?
Bloody hell - Marshall looks like he’s suffering…
😂👏🏻
He's seriously hungover. He is literally hanging on for dear life.😂
He's either terribly hingover or sick or both.
Well Marshy have been socializing with proper respect full South African that carried him home when he could not walk by himself. Tindall was also at that lunch that is why I am surprised he is in 1 piece
100% and he’s not the only one 😂😂😂
I’ve noticed that every podcast or show during the World Cup, there’s been a slow decline in the health and wellbeing of all the host’s and guests. It seems all the ex players no matter the nationality are just having a constant party in France.
Thought calling Foster petulant for sticking to his guns was a bit strange. I would say determined or maybe cussed.
Wasnt going to watch this but so glad I did - best wc session yet - thanks guys