Terror in the Irish Borderlands
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ม.ค. 2021
- In the Irish borderlands, Sean Quinn was always known as a tough businessman. Hugely successful and having created thousands of jobs, he was seen by many as a local hero. Then it all went wrong.
Video by Carla Howe and Angus Bennett
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executive producer: a mini-series about the Quinn affair, and then a multiple-season series on the troubles in northern ireland
@@karlosdeevs The trouples would likely be used to pad out the beginning of the show as filler despite having nothing to do with it.
Kenneth Branagh is definitely gonna be in this series. Or at the very least, Guy Ritchie will direct this if it was a movie.
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Underrated comment☘️👍
What's with people thinking when someone gets lucky and rich, it all their effort, but when they get unlucky and lose money, they're victims?
You can't have it both ways.
1 lorry and £500 to a few billion was some going
It's not only luck. You need luck, you need work and you need to be willing to take risks. You don't get rich just by working harder.
You never get rich through hard work. You gamble and take money from others. You have to step on others toes to get rich.
@@ph11p3540 no you don't. People get rich because they do work hard, but in addition to that they are willing to take risks you are not.
@@ph11p3540 There is a reason why a lot c suite executives are borderline psychopaths. You have to be able to be smart and not a complete psychopath with no social skills, but willing to do whatever it takes to "win" and not feel guilty about stepping on others. Also taking the risks needed to get rich is also a trait that many borderline psychopaths can make because they assume (as Sean Quinn almost rightly did) that some form of moral hazard will happen and other people will take the downside of the risk and they don't care.
The fact this sean quinn stuff hasn't been made into a series is surprising. It is completely insane.
It is now
There was recently a series on RTÉ called Quinn Country documenting his rise, fall, and the kidnapping of Kevin and the abuse of Quinn buildings
By the title of this video I expected this to be yet another video about the troubles. I was pleasantly dissapointed.
The RA are always involved don't worry
The Troubles, WW2 was called The Emergency.
Gas, only in Ireland.
The moral of the story to Sean Quinn, and the other fool Sean fitzpatrick, was the idea you can leverage huge ammounts of fake stock in order to prop up real commodities while all the while gambling out of your own narcissism that you'll get super rich while others in the real economy suffer.
These people are an embarrassment to Ireland and exclude the violence karma has a way of paying you back.
The stocks were real, and he leveraged his own capital. Took a high risk high reward approach for to long. You don't play odds like that long-term, let alone after you've pulled off the high reward.
This is excellent reporting! Prime piece of journalism... it would surely make into a fantastic series.... staggeringly creepy story
I didn't see much journalism. Just alot of speculation.
@@deedrabbit not really? they make it out like hes responsible? A man was jailed for three years today because he attacked the two directors because hes dad lost hes job over what they did. I like these clips but these is completley innacurate
The main suspect in the Lunney incident followed me when I was driving through the Derrylin area, he was suspicious of us because we were driving a similar car to the unmarked ones used by the police at the time.
Irish people will pay an extra tax on their insurance policies for the next 20 years to pay for the sh!t show that was Quinn Insurance. I feel sorry for Sean Quinn that he lost his business but he still lives in a big house, his children live in big houses and drive nice cars without working? How does this miracle happen?
When you siphon money offshore and block creditors, that's how it happens.
Thing I dont get is the local revelry, yes he created jobs but only cause it suited him.
He would sell out anyone if it was in his interest.
I guess these people felt abandoned by the govt (British and Irish BTW) and Sean Quinn was the only man doing something for them. They may have been correct about that but does not make them any less a fool
Hard work according to some commenters (I wish I was joking)
@@cianmcguire5647 well, he obviously worked obsessively hard to earn that type of money. You are deluding yourself if you think you can get that wealthy without devoting all of your time to that goal. However, that does not make him any more innocent. He got too greedy and made bad decisions and couldn't accept that. He was a bad loser.
@@MD-uu5nt If hard work is inheriting land and status in your community and getting vast cheap loans then all politicians are hard workers in Ireland too ;)
When people say "They cannot imaginage another human being doing unspeakable things to another" really makes me wanna slap some sense into that person. Especially if you are someone who lived through the great wars. Quit being so naive, humans are the worst monsters out there.
Amazing story, got all the elements of a great film.
Never gamble on a bank. Never EVER gamble on a bank. (unless you have insider info, in which case, that's illegal but go for it)
Banks are normally the safest bets in the world, however this is Ireland I guess.
USA and Israel, those banks aint falling without the governments falling
@@ValdVincent what are you on about Lehman Brothers failed as a result of the financial crash as well. Failing financial institutions are not only for places like Ireland.
@@ValdVincent what do you mean 'but this is ireland I guess'
@@ValdVincent people thought that too in Ireland, 'too big to fail' the government will just bail them out, there's no such thing as a safe bet. (BOI & AIB were bailed out, the biggest banks, he just took the wrong bet I guess)
@@dazza2350 tiny country
What is this with people being fanatic about billionaires and torturing people/staging coups for them? It's as if they were gods.
Well Yes,they are De-facto Gods (Devils) of Society, Manipulating Political and Economical Aspects to a Large Extent.....
CEOs are generally psychopaths
To be fair, he was the main employer in he's area, which was largely forgotten by the government. He gave well paying jobs, was the main funder of community programs and as I was told by a local generally kept the local area alive when most areas had mass immigration of younger people out of them to bigger cities. ( he apparently was very generous to and well like all over he's home because he never forgot where he came from and always financially held up a largely remote area). Couple that with the region already being full of dissedent IRA member and its a recipe for violence.
Most aren't. Most billionaires are pretty boring people. The guys who did the kidnapping seem like they were getting paid by someone, likely either involved with the companies or a major benefactor of the business or employment they created.
Well practically they are. If you have capital in this modern world, you run the world, that's just how it is. We just have to pray that the right guys be the owners of capital
made a high stakes gamble on Anglo and lost. 'allegedly' hid money due to creditors leaving Irish people to foot the bill. complained to the vatican when the local priest condemned the paymaster of the thugs who tortured one of the executives now running the business he gambled away. judgement warped by an inflated ego.
A narcissist - one of several types of personality disorders - is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others
Love the series. Like SERIOUSLY!!!
Born on the border between nothern ireland and Ireland. There is only ONE Ireland. How your country divided our country is well known for hundreds of years.
This is about the downfall of a company, not sectarian violence or oppression 😂
Are you American? If so kindly keep your mouth shut on this issue
Oh FFS, that may be a political aspiration but reality check, Dublin doesn't call the shots North of the border, the money has the Queen's face and the cops are not called Gardai.
@@ChairmanRingo me ? I'm Irish born in tipp 😂
@@cilliangillick nah course not mate your comment is very sensible I’m talking about op
They teach all this in northern irish business studies
Those 2 guys should go knocking door to door in the borderlands asking for information 😅
Yes, indeed! Their accents would elicit some interesting replies?
This is an amazingly well put together account of a great story.
Wow. Excellent video.
used to play football against Sean Quinn well back in the day, he was a great player as well, still there is nowt as strange as folks as they say
Is it an old Yorkshire saying ?
@@anthonymitchell8893 it is indeed, but they say Nowt as Queer as folk but then am i allowed to type that, lol.
I grew up in Cavan around this time and while I was young and had no idea what was happening. I was aware of a businessman called Sean Quinn that everyone loved who ended up in prison. When I was a kid I thought he was arrested for being too rich.
Sean Quinn never ended up in prison
Didn't he do some time for contempt of court?
@@Dabhach1
Was that not his son?
@@mijicmugendo Happens to me all the time.
You thought he was arrested for being too rich seriously?
I thought only Chinese billionaires have horror stories.
im interested:)
which chinese billionairs do you mean?
both of you can’t spell? Billionaire?
@@johannes960 Jack Ma - Founder of Alibaba (Basically Chinese Amazon), he made some comments in October about how China is inefficient for business or something, or there needs to be more economic freedom - and since then he hasn’t been seen or heard from in over 2 months.
Or Russian?
@@johannes960 too many. there is a nouns in Chinese called Being (Force) Suicide 被自殺. And it not happened to rich people, it happened to quite a few middle level commie that is not aline with CCP.
Very well put together
Quinn, The Irish version of McAfee.
Trump's predecessor
McAfee is funny
Mc Afee is an irish name so its likely he has irish ancestry
@@galoglaich3281 *WTF, Ireland be scary doe.....**
@@jctai100 Trump 2024
“We may never know who the Paymaster is” 🤣
Translation; we may never be able to do anything about him, but we tannin hopeful
His nickname is possibly 'Slab'.
Made me laugh as well :) Who could it be? Maybe some Japanese mobster, or an African warlord, or an alien from another planet... we'll never know.
What people don't realise is this will never be forgotten and at some stage people will pay a massive price for it.
Who? Where? When? What??
You just said nothing
I remember this being in the papers. Mental what happens where you Live and you have no idea it's actually happening.
Makes you think of Italian and Irish mafia from a few decades again in NYC
Wasn’t just NYC it was all over the east coast. New Jersey, Philadelphia, Boston, and other places had a lot of mob activity, both Irish and Italian.
Gangsterism exists in most places; the difference is usually just a matter of scale.
Sadly where the catholics, of which I'm one, migrated to in the states there was corruption.
@J T I think mutually compatible mention of both is fair and accurate
@J T ah yes. Nothing to see here etc...
With the title I thought this was a video about Zaford clan lore or something, and the first ten seconds could very well be part of the intro to a Borderlands dlc.
"WHO CRASHES A WAKE?!?!"
How does a man from a poor family with no formal education get the capital to start a huge conglomerate? I'm genuinely curious
@@L.C.Sweeney Nothing to do with his first business being selling cement and gravel he extracted from his family farm then I suppose?
Must've been a whole lot of hard work to create that cement from nothing.
@@L.C.Sweeney We'll never know, because I don't already own land with valuable resources I can sell.
I legitimately don't know what that second half is meant to mean. It wasn't farming that made him rich my man. So I've no idea what relevance that's meant to hold.
You're basically doing a less extreme version of going upto some midwestern farmer who just hit oil and telling him his farm is useless because farms don't make much money...
(edit: I'm not saying the guy didn't have an eye for opportunity or smart decision making, but those are different from working hard. I'd imagine most farmers work hard and by your own admission they're not rich, so just working hard clearly isn't the explanatory factor you think it is.)
@@L.C.Sweeney Thanks, that makes sense, I didn't know his family had some land that they owned. I took poor family to mean that they didn't own any property.
@@JustWazza
Rich/successful people are often keen to push their rags to riches story because that means they are where they are through merit and anyone who didn't make it failed on their own. This guy was handed a farm with valuable resources on it, immediately putting him in a position that only a fraction of others would ever find themselves in yet for some reason feels justified to say his family was poor. If owning a farm with valuables resources on it is poor what are the ordinary people who don't even own their own house, let alone acres of farmable land and mineable resources???
@Heloise O'Byrne Fascinating, property gave it all to him, then took it all. As they say, success is borrowed, never owned.
His brother Peter who has the reputation of being among the top five Economists in Europe surely could have saved his hide!!!!
In 2002 I insured my motorcycle with Carole Nash for €300, the renewal jumped to €600 for no reason.
Quinn insured me for €200 then they went belly up.
Cool story bro
@@huzcer I reckon there's a book in that story.
Quinn were great at cutting the costs of legal bills by using retired traffic police to settle disputes instead of solicitors.
@@anthonyhassett I think their main business model was not having proper reserves for an insurance company.
@@huzcer no different to any of the banks that are over leveraged.
People don't live in the reality of things, they just live in the ego of things.
This should be a Netflix series
"We'll never know who the mastermind was."
Despite there only being one person who would obviously seriously benefit from it. Hmmmmmm, that's a real head scratcher. 🤔
An English fella talking about the border a border that wouldn't exist but for his country
And that's his fault? He's a reporter
@@Weebay_213 the problems at the border are only there because of the border. Ignorance is bliss
@@goadedmachine8448 of course I agree there should not be a border but your "an English fella" comment makes you sound like a plank. A blissful one
@@Weebay_213 He called it borderlands the same as they called south armagh bandit country the same as the coined the term beyond the pale. All derogatory terms for native peoples living in said areas.
Common denominator? The English
@@goadedmachine8448 Whats that got to do with his accent?
What border? There's no border in Ireland!
2 of the guys responsible for carrying out the attack sentenced to 18 and 25 years respectively yesterday. The paymaster is still at large.
Aye sure he's living in a big house somewhere in Cavan. Think his surname is Quinn?
If they did NOT think this was inevitable then they had their heads burred deep in the sand. They are watching their jobs that does not require a degree to have vanish.
Nice choereograhy, pretty scary stuff.
It's the law of omerta. You don't know who you are dealing with
Its FerMANagh not Furmahnar ....... oh dear
I wanted to ask if he considers himself a man or a mon.
It's FerMANa, not FerMANagh, if you want to be pedantic. Oh dear...
@@ardakolimsky7107 no its not i live here, its fermanagh because its an irish word.
@@irishskier9432 Firstly, Fermanagh is _not_ an Irish word (I'm assuming you mean Gaelic). The Gaelic name of the area is Fear Manach.
Secondly, try re reading the original comment, and then try working out why you are wrong in any case.
@@ardakolimsky7107 its the English translation of the word fear manach yes and its not Gaelic. The word you're looking for is Gaelige. The use of the word Gaelic is used synonymously with the sport of Gaelic football. I would know this as I am from Fermanagh am an Irish speaker so don't come here with your English explanations that you got from wikipedia about my culture and my country.
driving a helicopter ? thats a new one
Worked well for Colin mc rae 👏
Its the market my friend
Quinn has bought up all potential quarry sites in Fermanagh and cavan.where did that money come from?
The millions he made over his life as a successful business man?
Saved up from the housekeeping money
He's supposedly bankrupt.
there's a weird irony that Quinn group tried to get out of dogde but the people working for them are preventing that from happening.
This would make a great Netflix mini series
Once the facts come out.....
His wife was sadder than him for sure
quinn is worth -3 billon but still has more nmoney than me
Many parts of Ireland are still quite clannish and tribalistic. Quinn was basically a clan leader.
And you're basically talkin' outta ya ass!
Walk into any country pub and you'll understand
@@cilliangillick fucking all country pubs now, fuck all this years to be honest
@@YoreYore-xq7kz true wouldn't bother me if they never opened
You could say that about any rural area, he brought jobs to a deprived area and lied about how they were lost, people were hurt. Nothing about tribalism here at all
We as Americans should study this right now
The legacy was a surcharge on every insurance policy taken out for years.
If u dig deeper you'll actually realise the state bailing out Anglo was the real reason
Yes and that’s why I am paying 4000 plus per year for a third party insurance with full no claim bonuses applied for my old truck
That's just one of the many reasons Irish insurance is a cluster fuck. Refusal to insure cars over 15 years old. Ludacris payouts. Zero transparency in pricing. The list goes on.
@@mrmc2465 when you say the state you mean "We , the tax payer"!
A chilling and horrific story.
Looking at this now from MSM on a self made man, I have a total suspicion as to its validity.
So basically Quinn is the villain from Roadhouse.
When I came on the vid and heard the voice, I thought it was Ross Kemp lol
Wheres the Quinn interview?🙄
It wasn’t filmed. They were just collecting quotes for the story
This ain't no place for no hero
Yes brother, the Heavy 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Sectarian violence? Did you mean British Imperialism?
lmfao right
@@alectorellishiddenchips1725
Maybe educate yourself
@@mijicmugendo ???..... im agreeing..... my family was ira bruh....
@@alectorellishiddenchips1725
My apologies . I took it you where dismissing it.
@@mijicmugendo all cool i see how it could come across that way.... i would be just as upset if i saw someone dismissing this comment
Is that Ian Hislop in the thumbnail?
If he gambled the money, then that would make AIB a casino. Why is a casino pretending to be a bank?
Google shorting lmao Quinn was just a idiot
The Irish sure don’t mess around
The Irish Catholic priests do.
@@andrewnevermind4902 😂😂
@@andrewnevermind4902 we didn't have much of that issue in Ireland
@@memetopia5130 excuse me? What did you base that on? There’s been reports on hundreds of priests with thousands of victims in the last 40ish years. There’s a well documented history of abuse by clergy men in this country and it’s shocking to me a citizen of Ireland doesn’t know, much less denies this.
@@memetopia5130 theres nine men dead of suicide in the graveyard by my house in rural nw ireland because of a pedophile priest, go ahead and say that again
What an egomaniac
Just the lads having some craic, that’s all. No harm done.
3 network sharing data with government on the movement of people in Ireland
Yeah I'd go with that 100 percent
Hmmm u serious bro?
One of the laws of investing : never fall in love with a stock. Sometimes you have to let them go
That is true. #1 rule in risk management, always cut your losses so that you may trade another day. The markets can stay irrational longer than you can remain solvent.
The co-journalist looks like Colin Farrell in 10 years
“The Irish Lex Luthor”? 🤔
This is great journalism. NETFLIX, MAKE THIS INTO A SHOW!!!!
They can't because the truth will certainly revolve around SF IRA and guess who the biggest supporter of SF IRA is then and today? It's the woke asshats in the DNC like Joe Biden. A far left Californian company will never publish anything that paints the Democrats in a bad light, they're too busy being a mouth piece for the Duchess of Duplicity
“County fuh-maa-naa” lol its fermanagh lads
Brits can’t say it right
@@dairebeare7839 if your from Fermanagh you are a Brit lad it’s in the uk 😂
@@sadmanhusain4846 lol like I’m gonna tell a lad called Husain tell me who is and isn’t Irish
@@dairebeare7839 I'm English, and I live in England. The Americans' are the people who get it wrong, you're just ignorant that the English language is a derivative within American society but the English people, living in England are apparently the people who are talking incorrectly; ignorance at its finest.
@@sadmanhusain4846 No you're wrong, The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is the name of the country, making him Irish not British.
There exist no border in Ireland, exept the sea.
I will stretch to say there exists an IMPOSED border on Ireland
@@cianmcguire5647 There are lots of saxons in Ulster, but no border, it doesn't exist.
@@POLITICUS-DANICUS when I worked in straban? Everyone made it very clear they were from the North of Ireland and not northern ireland
@@christycullen2355 yea, saxon colonizers.
We’re very flattered you want to rejoin the Union, but it’ll be a difficult sell with the British taxpayer.
Guess Quinn and Trump would be best friends, as they have so much in common.
Trump’s America was great
Sincerely, Botswana 🇧🇼
@@jezwc you fool
@@bmcg8888 Africans like Trump because of his stance on China. Educate yourself
@@jezwc fools
@@bmcg8888 I thought you liberals were all about empowering “brown people” 😝
How is it not obvious that Quinn is the guy who hired them?
Not enough concrete evidence to prosecute yet (no pun intended)
Because it could of just been a fan of Quinn’s that hired them.
@@joshbentley2307 LOL 'a fan' I wonder who you could mean
@@RJH1971 There was loads of people who have been jailed for attacking managment because they lost there jobs, didnt have to be Quinn. A guy was jailed for three years today because he beat two of managment to a pulp at a petrol station because they terminated hes dads job. A lot of people in the area had motivation to get back at the new managment.
Knowing it and proving it are two different things.
Sounds like trumps Irish cousin
Sean quinn told the irish government that he would pay every penny he owed back in 10 years!! They should have let him..
Wasn't too different to somebody losing an election recently.
Justice for Harry Dunn.
Never forget. Never Forgive.
We don't call it bandit country for nothing
I'd have dissolved it. Not worth the headache. Or sell it to the yanks.
My friend is called Sean Quinn 😅
2:32 my people, my group....come all ye named Quinn, let us return to our homeland.
And you guys thought the Irish Mob was gone.
A man was kidnapped and tortured and was given zero time on television
Stock market catches the best of them out. Takes years to learn, never charge at one thing market unless the price is extremely undervalued. Most people look to one year, i was one of them, what can be done in 5 is amazing.
Left school at age 14 or 15. Became an billionaire & lost it all ??? He's not a victim he's a mark...
the man done all this to him self he has said it him self now we are paying for it
You are very naive to think that that AIB/BOI bailouts weren't bigger.
This guy got screwed by the stonk market
Wow, I remember the story on the news, I thought they just kidnapped him, didn't know they tortured him
Lmao did you think they tickled him
@@ciarand2823 😂😂😂😂
Was a warning! If you must hurt a man it must be so severe that he will not come back. This torture was not severe by Irish standards. Looks like amateurs torture!
Both sides used Dublin jimmy when they needed him
Three men were just sentenced today
Creditors are vultures
I wonder how Brexit is going to pan out on the island of Ireland?
VAT is being charged on certain parcels and stuff from the UK.
I'd be more worried about the island of Great Britain, if Scotland and Northern Ireland vote for independence.
@@Peannlui I'll be voting for independence for Scotland, and reentry into the EU.
Thumbnail looks like Carlos ghosn
I live in the area. There are issues with Quinn that have never been made public. I'll leave it at that.
it's the internet, you can say whatever you want
Yes speak the truth
@@alexm566 He's talking about the sheep shaggin
Sooo you want to hear a story?
Ghost of the Molly Maguires?
Stay away from leverage kids
Soo kinda like game stop right now?
Irish Sopranos
Only much worse