Acura Type S Turbo V6 - Development Story
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- Acura’s all-new Type S Turbo V6 engine incorporates technologies from the NSX supercar to produce 355 horsepower and 354 lb.-ft. of torque, helping it make the TLX Type S the best performing Acura sedan ever. The new Type S engine also will power the upcoming MDX Type S.
Learn more on Type S here: www.acura.com/type-s - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
happy to see a Dual Cam V6 finally besides the ones in the NSX, this emotion and ingenuity has been missing for awhile, glad to see it making a comeback
The engineers at Acura did a great job.
Yeah but needs more power
I'd like to see the Acura Legend return.
It did as the RL
I had the privilege of owning an '02 RSX type S. Best years of my early adulthood lol. Car was a blast to drive. Good for Honda for returning back to its roots- performance and reliability.
Yep, '07 Civic Si here (pretty much same engine). I still think it's the best NA engine Honda has ever produced outside of S2k family.
@@sergeybebenin yess sir, k20a2 baby!
@@sergeybebenin Yepp the K series is def hands down the best honda engine next to s2k f20 engine but the k24 is okay. Ive had a gsr b18, em1 b16, prelude h22 and now i have a Rsx typeS k20z, its the best engine. My friend has a s2k and that thing is super nice, want to get a s2k but prices are wayy to high now.
I Still have one, 148k daily driven bone stock and still sees 8k rpm daily. One of the best cars ever built as far as reliability and fun to drive!
@@jaimehurtado2138
👍 I went all the way to 275k mi without a single engine issue. Unfortunately had an accident in winter and insurance said it's not worth fixing.
Finally a long clip from Acura. This brand has so many channels and almost no clips to smallest clips explaining technologies or address any criticism of their decisions so they can keep their loyal customers secured
4:54 Did he just say "Hyper VTEC" ?!
A dealership I cannot name showed me under the hood of one of these bad boys just yesterday, I am very exited.....It was hard not to take photos. My 2012 MDX is still going strong yall keep up the good work.
How is the engine oil burning? I heard this is a common problem with the 3.7 v6.
I worked at the Anna Engine Plant where this is made for 25 years. The associates have reason to be proud building this and the NSX motors.
I'd thought the NSX engines were made elsewhere, but I looked it up: "A team of eight elite associates build NSX engines at the Acura engine plant in Anna, Ohio - where 4,000 square feet is their exclusive domain" Ok, then. Those guys built my engine :)
@@asdf51501 wanna buy me a speaker since ur rich
...I just bought one! ....I drive Luxury cars all the time in my line of work protecting celebrities, THIS TYPE S, is a BEAST!
I can't believe it was under $100K !
Year of the TIGER EYE PEARL !
Lucky you
It's a brilliant redesign, very innovative and futuristic.
Not so futuristic tbh
@@Ecuador006 its good future planning, it leaves room for them to crank this thing up over time almost like mercedes did in f1 this past generation.
I have a 2023 TLX Type S, it’s really a joy to daily drive
If these things handle boost like the tsx did this will be an tuner's AWD dream
Type S is BACK!! Well done Acura!
Glad to see Aluminum Valve covers not those shitty plastic ones.
Agreed
The valve covers literally are the cam bearing caps due to the short design of the engine. They would HAVE to be metal.
@@jay.fromthebay yep, would that it make difficult to do maintenance work like changing valve cover gaskets?
@@MrSamPhoenix not necessarily. A lot of Honda engines especially the newer k series rely on precision fit with a little bit of silicone sandwiched in between. They have done it for years on transmission halves, engine girdles, oil pumps and other things. And it works well when everything is torqued correctly.
@@paul06660 - I hope it’s as easy as changing the valve cover gaskets for the SOHC J-series.
One of the main reasons I love the SOHC J-series engines is how easy they’re to work on (along with being torquey, smooth, reliable V6 engine designs).
& would putting everything back become a headache if we do have to reseal the valve covers one day?
This is a car I aspire to drive because I know of the workmanship behind it. Former Honda, R&D (Raymond, OH) tech. Can't wait to get behind the wheel.
The TLX is the most beautiful sedan in its class Imo.
Would love to see a limited edition Type S coupe with 400hp
That would be nice!
Q50 red sport would smoke that thing to dust 😅
@@keithjay4944 Don't be so sure, its only a couple of ticks faster than the Type S. If Acura managed to make the Type S lighter and pumped up the horses to 400, it wouldn't be a contest.
With a manual ✔
I have this memory of the earlier Type S marketing from Acura stating the car would be "over 400 horsepower", but if that was true, I can't find evidence of it now (it may have been youtuber speculation). But I'm still disappointed the car doesn't already come with 400hp. I was genuinely hoping for something that would compare well to a Lexus RC F (or GS F) with its 477hp (comparing well doesn't mean beating it, just in the ballpark). Instead, it seems Acura had their sights set firmly on a lower target.
It's a very good looking car, and will likely sell pretty well for Acura. I'd love to see a jazzed up version too, with both an HP and a cosmetic upgrade of some sort (spoiler and diffuser, that kind of thing). They could make something that appeals to wealthier buyers who like the car and would like it to look more sporty (as opposed to classy). Shrug.
Disclaimer: I own an Acura, but it has significantly more horsepower than this.
Love my 2023 TLX Type S
I’ve had issues with audio and sometimes, (when using sport + and manual shift) the gears are slow to respond… just curious if you’ve had similar issues?
@@donaldwilson803 I’ve noticed audio issues when my iPhone is connected to CarPlay.
Sometimes in sports + mode the gears are long or like you stated, slow to respond.
@@usmc187 I’m not out here being all fast and furious lol, so the slow gearshift isn’t a big problem for me. However, I was driving yesterday and lost all audio. No fm, xm, navigation, nothing. Just trying to see if it’s happened to others. Thank you for your reply!
@@donaldwilson803 usually all speakers go out except the front center which is strange.
Great car still underpowered vs it’s euro counterparts definitely a step in the right direction.
At least they already have the lead in the SH-AWD system. Making Audi's Quattro system and Mercedes 4Matic system a run for their money.
Just drove our 2022 type s home!
A lovely engine, I love my Type S
Just curious if you’ve had audio issues or slow gear shift issues when in sport + and manual?
Not a lot of new cars get my attention but this one looks good from the inside and out thanks to the team for making this 💯💪🏾🔥
This is my attainable dream car
Can’t wait to see this engine spread across the Acura models. 🔥
I dig it. I'm ready to do some real-world durability testing with this thing :)
Acura give this man one for free.
I'm sure everyone is waiting for your results
It's been a year. How is it?
You all did well on this. Maybe a bigger than 3.0 V6 would’ve been better but the power numbers from this are nice, the exhaust note is pretty nice, similar to European competitors, the AWD has been great for 15-20+ years
You'd be sacrificing reliability with higher displacement
"designed for high strength"
Translation: "ready for tuners to make this thing to 400+ hp"
600+
Probably had already close 325hp out of the box
Good luck with that small td04 turbo 🤦🏻♂️
@@Acura_mechanic I'm referring to the block strength not the capability of the original configuration
@@nighthawkj30A4 355out of box
Wait until hondata and ktuner get one for testing
Amazing
Great car!
Feels like we are living in a parallel universe. Japanese legacy autos pushing the boundaries of their V6's and Tesla doing their thing.
The 3.0 liter Type S Turbo V6 engine is a double overhead camshaft engine which be exclusively marketed under the Acura brand. This is a big change because of the Acura V6 engines were of the J-series single overhead camshaft V6 engines which have been used since the mid 1990's. This is a production-based 3.0 Liter V6 turbocharged engine and it should be interesting to see if Honda Performance Development can use this engine in the 24 hours of Le Mans and World Endurance Championship as the Honda HR28TT twin turbocharged V6 and Honda HR35TT twin turbocharged V6. The Acura NSX has 3.5 liter twin turbocharged double overhead camshaft V6. I'm looking forward to see the what the Honda tuners have in store for this V6 engine.
I thought the NC1 Acura NSX had a different V6 engine?
I also thought the NC1 NSX had a block and head made by Cosworth?
The NC1 NSX engine is not shared with other Acura car lines like the MDX.
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@@zzzzzsleeping Yes, you are correct. NC1 engine is different from any of Acura V6 engines. Cosworth did make the cylinder heads and engine block. Two weeks ago, I had the pleasure of driving a tuned NC1 and it is one bad ass sports car. The EV mode is one coolest features of the NC1.😎
I can't wait till this thing gets out into the real world and drivers can test the launch control to see what it's capable of.
This car is going to be one of those that's actually at its best out on the streets.
Like ALL Acura /Honda cars. They focus on driving pleasure which matters in the real world, rather than stupid hp numbers
0-60 4.7s
It’s okay, even underwhelming
@@E82N55 apparently not.
The testers at the press event weren't made aware that the car has an official launch control, even reporting that it didn't have launch control, so they all just did their best with the brake pedal and throttle.
The Type-S launch control system likely improves the transmission logic on launch, and in fact uses the twin scroll turbo to increase then maximize boost pressure specifically at launch rpm.
Then, I doubt anyone attempted to launch the car using the parking brake, a classic method known to improve numbers.
It just hasn't been tested nearly thoroughly enough to claim the acceleration is underwhelming.
@@E82N55 just came out and already way behind the competition.
@@JAM_2024 great looking car but Acura has disappointed me so far. They need to find a way to cut some weight from the vehicle.
Did I just heard MDX type S 🤯
8:09 - 8:19 That is your commercial right there Acura.
I thought the NC1 Acura NSX had a different V6 engine?
I also thought the NC1 NSX had a block and head made by Cosworth?
Is the NC1 NSX engine shared with other Acura car lines like the MDX ?
They really should have paired it with a 6-speed manual But sadly that isn't the case I know automatics these days are faster and all that jazz But there's something having high performance and having full control of that power through a manual transmission and that connection between man and machine
I couldn't agree more ..
I’m coming from an evo x, I honestly won’t miss manual at all lol.
And I have my doubts that automatics are even as superior as they are claimed to be. I mean, the whole thing about better MPG from automatics doesn’t necessarily bear out in real world driving. I feel like, to a large degree, automakers don’t want to make manual cars because most people don’t want them. They then have to exaggerate the advantages of them in order to placate stick shift aficionados.
1:25 Espero que esa manguera este allí solo para la presentación del video,( es una manguera de agua con grabados en blanco, donde sale de la parte lateral de la culata y entra a un enfriador de aceite) por que estarían contradiciendo su eslogan de precisión en la construcción. se que es tonto fijarme en estos detalles y que después en la fabricación en masa esos detalles se corrigen, pero me a pasado que e encontrado vehículos nuevos de fabrica con fallos tan ridículos como una manguera estrangulada o cambiada de posición, que provoca fallas graves en el motor.
Now we know what engine will be in the 2023 accord
I want to own a blue TLX Type S one day. Beautiful looking car
glad to see acura getting its mojo back. would love to see them come up with a 450hp+ version to compete with the M/AMG/RS cars.
TLX Type R, man that would be amazing
SAME
As an 06 TL driver (non type-S) when it’s time for a new car, hopefully this will be it!
Also side note, I feel like a type-S RDX would’ve been sick over the MDX
I agree. Actually, it sounds like this motor will get dropped into a number of platforms. It would be wicked if mated to a resurrected/updated S2000 roadster. I too have an ‘06 TL 5AT, w. 166K miles. The car is heavily modded, and it has been super-reliable & durable. And it corners like a go cart. I’d see myself with a TLX Type S as well.
LOVE that you used the old Tyse S gauges.
I hope it runs on timing chain instead of belt.
VTEC BABY 🏎💨💨💨
Prelude??
Can't wait till this is the base version for all MDX and TLX models. Plz Acura make a MDX Hybrid & Plug-in version god damn it haha
Acura made an MDX hybrid, and I'm very disappointed that they didn't go hybrid for the Type S. This new V6 has less power and torque than an RLX Sport Hybrid.
the engine feels good，much faster than before，amazing！-Alonso
A 1998 Acura Integra GS-R was my first new car. I daily-drove, road-tripped, auto-crossed, and tracked that car for 13years and 153k miles and enjoyed every minute of it. Considering coming back to the brand now and trying to figure out why I would purchase this instead of an IS500 or CT4VBW.
I am disappointed by the lack of technical depth in this video, there are barely 2.5min (2:40-5:10) of real meat, everything else is fluffy marketing artsy-speak. Just tell us that this is a single-twin-scroll light-pressure turbo V6 with VCM and direct-actuated valves. Turbocharger located above the transmission for compact transverse packaging. It is so easy guys...stop obscuring the data.
Why are you using a timing belt?
1991 Supra = 320HP.
2021 Type S = 355Hp.
1.17HP/yr. Making progress!
The Supra made 276 hp in 1991, not 320...also, you're comparing a coupe to a sedan...that's like comparing apples to oranges.
@@KardiFan2000 320 in NA markets. JDM = Gentlemen's Agreement.
Edit: You're right - I was referring to 1993 Supra (MK4), not 1991.
@@channelnamehere4065 I know I'm right lol...either way it's dumb to compare it to the Supra...the NSX is the only Acura that can compare to that.
Stupid comment since a lot of the competitors have similar power figures. Also if you were a proper car fan you'd know it's not all about power but how it's used on the road. The S2000 had 240hp and is considered one of the most fun cars ever
Your comment is stupid. I was pointing out that in 1993, a 3.0L I6 made 320 HP and here in 2021, we managed to get 355 out of the same displacement. It's like they took 1993 technology and took it in for extrude honing while phoning it in. Progress! And yes, if I were a proper car fan, I'd be a fanboy of this car too, but since I'm not, you'd forgive me for not loving everything on wheels. Besides, if Acura didn't want comparisons, they shouldn't use words like "...technologies from the NSX supercar to produce 355 horsepower and 354 lb.-ft. of torque, helping it make the TLX Type S the best performing Acura sedan ever." Yea, they did!
Are the cylinders in this engine coated with Kumamoto Plating?
More horse and I would buy
Did I hear “HYPER VTECH” !?!?
My biggest concern about this engine is whether or not that turbo will last as long as all the k-series and j-series that have come before it. I buy Acuras because I know I can get to 200,000 miles without a worry.
Although N/A would most likely last a bit longer, I think this engine should be able to last 200k. Honda has been making turbocharged engines for a long time now, and they also mentioned strength was one of their priorities with this engine.
Can’t be any worse than that oil diluting garbage in the crv
Yea they should’ve tested that engine for longer. The bigger 2.0T with gdi doesn’t have any problems though, so I doubt their bigger engines will have it either.
Please make this in a Type R. If you make this in a R I will get one. I owned a 2008 type S loved it. I think fixed most things that the type s needed. Good bye Subaru STI! I’m so glad I never got a Subaru.
indeed. a type-R with the NSX v-6 and a twin scroll (thought perhaps not a twin turbo) would likely give about 450bhp. Perfect for some whoop ass.SOLD!
Type R is for Honda.
Type R is Honda only
@@jeriiiiiimigricoooo There will be a type r at some point Billy! Because that’s what we want!
Why do so many car clowns keep saying his car lacks the performance of the Euro brands? Who cares? Those cars spend more time getting repaired than on the road, so it doesn't matter anyway.
I know the engine is destined for a mass produced car, and the Type S badge is more of a grand touring compared to track ready Type R... But gosh... I really want this engine unleashed on a Type R or a dedicated light sports car... Dare I say S3000?
I love the thought process a s3000 would be hell in a shell 🤣
Need to bring back the cl badge
RWD manual
CLX
I got two questions. Does it have a limited slip differential? Why doesn’t it have Vtec?
Honda Best Engines🔥🔥🔥
Easy to work on & Reliable❤️❤️❤️
Correct👍💯💯💯
It needs more HP. All of its competitors have more than 355 HP. Also, those exhaust tips are hilariously huge. Just do a center exit exhaust with two 3” tips.
"Just do a center exit exhaust with two 3” tips."....it's not a Civic 🤦🏾♂️
Just turn the boost up.
great job honda I love it
That TLX tye S needs a 6MT bad!!!
My FBO rsx s is the best car I will ever own glad for a new style of a type s
I wonder if this engine has VTEC. It would be nice if it had it on both intake and exhaust, but if it even had vtec, it would probably be only on exhaust just to light up the catalytic converters faster for emissions purposes. A man can hope though
No VTEC
@@hybrdthry911 I cannot lie. I am dissapointed. I wish honda could make modern, dual VTEC, naturally aspirated, high revving motors like the original K series and B series again. Ah, one can only hope
@@inaNis_ They won't...that era is pretty much over. When Honda announced their Earth Dreams technology a few years ago, I knew things would change. They're all about fuel efficient turbos and lower-revving engines now...it is what it is 🤷🏾♂️
@@KardiFan2000 It's unlucky to see but they gotta do what they gotta do in this market to survive. Hell, even toyota is making under squared, turbocharged, torquey engines as well. I don't know if there are any main stream companies that are still making high revving NA motors anymore, honestly
DOHC
RIP VTEC. You will be forever missed.
Not that I'm hating this engine.
Can I put that motor in my civic
Manual please
Dear Acura, I am a huge fan of the NSX would love to make content for your company, may I know how to get access to a press vehicle?
I am going to buy on of these bad boys
Man I just got the 2019 tlx a spec and then they announced this a month after 😭
Wait a few years and get one in the used market. That's what I'm probably going to do with the Type S
I'm just sad it doesn't offer a manual.
nice vid ...made me have more of an appreciation for the tlx/mdx type s badge
Really annoying how they keep saying "all new". It's still a J-series. A heavily modified J-series, yes, but still a J-series. Other than that, it's a great engine and I really love the TLX Type-S.
Just think how good a J series V6 is without any Turbo and newer tech added to it. It's a j 35 on steroids.
Bravo Acura, bravo.
Dope
Is it made in USA or Japan??
USA
@@lloydhudson6463 Then we should be worried about quality control and reliability? Made in Japan models tends to be more reliable like Lexus
@@spawn11 Well, any time you have an all new vehicle, reliability is always a question mark.
@@lloydhudson6463 agree
@@spawn11 Acuras have been made in the US since the beginning and have great reliability. It's in the brand's DNA
Pretty cool stuff, I just wish this new twin turbo DOHC J-series was as pretty as the older J-series V6 engine design. Saying that, the Acura TLX Type-S is a gorgeous car to behold.
We would've given our souls to have this Engine in our 98-2002 CG2's.
Just got the aspec I wish I could've waited for this
Dear Honda,
Congratulations. You have finally come back with a car that can compete with the market. Mostly all I wanted Honda to be. That being said, let me tell you one thing. You are one company that I would 100% trust when it comes to engine that can rev to 8000-9000rpm. You have accumulated such knowledge over the years and that is what made Honda stand out. I know there is a reason why turbo is instead being used over letting engine to run faster. However, I would someday want to see those engines coming back. So I say "You have technology to create one of the most addicting engines to drive on street. USE IT! Find a way to make it viable versus other engines!". Please. Thank you
Where do you see 9000 RPM? 6200 is all this thing allows.
@Sergey M, who cares, it produces peak output at well under 2,000 rpm.
Love the car
They removed VTEC right?
Unfortunately. They put dumb VCM in the car but not vtec.
Vtec Bhhhhhhhh
@@robbym3542 There is also VCT in this engine...same system that's used in the new NSX.
@@KardiFan2000 that’s nice but most of that is for fuel economy. The motor needs to rev out more and have vtec. 6k rpm just isn’t exciting. Bmw makes the best engine right now IMO
@@robbym3542 True, but the days of hitting VTEC at 8000 or 9000 rpm are unfortunately over. Turbo boost is the new wave for Honda...more fuel efficient and more torque.
So does these mean the J series V6 will be eventually replaced by this new Engine?
I think not, this engine is designed for type S series cars only, people love the J V6 series, Honda will not miss the opportunity to make more profit from the old but loved J series
@@jtomtl that brings me some assurance and good news to hear.
@@nighthawkj30A4 Glad to help, FYI this new 3.0 V6 doesn’t have V-TEC, so it’s a con for some Honda fans
@@jtomtl really no Vtec huh?
@@jtomtl well they better have Non Turbo Version that has Vtec V6 otherwise its deal breaker.
Had me until VCM... I sure hope it's better than it is on our Honda Pilot.
Are you kidding me? OF COURSE it's better than the Pilot's engine, hilarious comments on youtube 😂
@@omairsh8 Hey - Clearly I was talking about the implementation of VCM which had MANY problems on Honda's prior models including causing ring fouling / sticking, leading to spark plug fouling, misfires, catalytic converter failure, and led to countless rebuilds. Honda even got sued over it because it was such a disaster. That doesn't even include all the NVH issues, which as the mounts broke in just kept getting worse. Yes, I hated my car with 5k miles and Honda could only say "that's how it's supposed to run". Sadly that was how it was supposed to run with VCM.
I'm sure the new engine is more powerful and responsive but if it's as remotely bad as what they did to the J35Z4 then it's a hard no from me.
Hopefully there will be a VCM Muzzler for that VCM. Don't want to run into engine mount issues, ring fouling, oil burns.
@@romanjaan19 Yeah, sure hope so. Honda has at least been consistent with connectors and all, I wonder if the existing solutions will still work.
180k on 2014 Accord 3.5 absolutely flawless. Never any issues, can barely feel the engagement. Saved tons of gas over its life (MPG well north of 35+ when engaged at highway cruise)
They need to put this into a sleek 2-door coupe ASAP.
I hope. But unfortunately, the coupe market is pretty much dead these days.
@@KardiFan2000 Especially for Acura.
Yehh tht would be nice but not enough ppl buy them. I would hve liked to see a tlx look similar to the BMW M2 coupe. It would def be one of best coupe that are out today if they did tht.
@@machtschnell7452 In general, it's dead. But yes.
I wish Acura would make a 6 speed manuel version😔
Perhaps they will consider it just have to push them for it. After all they need to listen to there customers.
People actually have to buy them though...when the ILX had a 6-speed, barely anyone bought them...and not surprisingly, Acura dropped the 6-speed. People need to stop capping in the comments and actually buy the manuals when they come out 🤦🏾♂️
How about Rdx type S? Are we going to see one ?
The next Gen RDX will get the Type S treatment and not the current Gen. So we may have to wait at least 2 to 3 years more for an RDX Type S I believe.
Cant wait for type s rdx to be honest.. mid size suv with that kind of engine insane 🤯🤯🤯
4th gen RDX
Only problem is you're the slowest in the segment. 400 or at least 385hp
💪🏻👍🏻
I'll eventually upgrade to an Acura. Gonna enjoy my 19 Accord
2.0?
Acura is still under power!
Sweet! Let's see the manual transmission development story next! *wink* wink* *nudge*....manual pleassse!
YEESSSS!!!!
Well done Honda, well done Acura!
no vtec ?
Its turbo 🤣😂
Now they need to put this motor in a premium rear drive sports sedan.
and manual so i can drift and Acura lol, I would 100% be buying one if it was RWD manual
The TLX IS a premium sports sedan. The SH-AWD system sends up to 70% of the power to the rear wheels. Best AWD system on the market
V6 turbo will it be the future of honda also ?
Do you think it’s time to let go of my 07 TL Type S and snatch this?
All day any day dude
No. This V6 sounds like an NSX with COVID.
@@aspecreviews Geez! HAHAHA this comment tho! Just wait until someone does a muffler delete or better yet straight pipes this thing...
@@yourdudegabe4291 a muffler delete would just make it more annoying. It wouldn't make it sound like the old TLX i-VTEC 7000-rpm V6.
Glad Acura is having more updated engine. The Acura RL can't pass my Passat 0-70mph because the lack of turbo
This thing is a true beauty !
This thing with a tune will definitely make alot more power honda played it safe with the power figures and left it for the consumer to have fun cant wait to see what this can do