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Mobot Royale Folding Bike Review & First Ride
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- This is a first look and initial impressions review of the Royale folding bike by Mobot, which is a bicycle company based out of Singapore.
ROYALE Foldable Bicycle By Mobot
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Frame: Chromoly steel
Weight: 13.1 kg
Wheels: 16″
Drivetrain: 6 speed c/w STURMEY ARCHER 3 speed internal gear hub
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0:00 - Bicycle introduction: Royale by Mobot (formerly Camp Royale Folding Bike)
1:20 - How the bike folds
3:54 - Royale Folding Bike overview & parts, pros and cons
9:25 - copyright issues
10:45 - Ride test (with 360 camera)
14:04 - Flower garden stop
15:07 - Final thoughts
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The color is both blue and purple (it's considered a Chameleon color in the paint world). Just depends on the angle you look at it and the sun. I love those paint jobs.
Wow, nice colour. Btw, was that wooden ties on the train track? I'd have thought Japan would be on concrete or steel ties to get speed up.
It's BLURPLE. And, I like it! Thanks for the video, as always!
(edit) How's the gearing? Looks like the 2-speed derailleur gears are close-ratio; do they fit between the ratios of the 3-speed hub? Thanks again! Cheerio!
It's きらきら
It’s both! And do you have a Japanese version of this review? I’m in Kyoto and my wife and I are looking into bromptons but, of course, the price is the sticking point. Have you tried a Brompton to compare to this?
Good comment on parts. If you follow up, then suggest covering: 1: Compatibility with Brompton after market, 3rd party upgrades.
2: After a month or so of riding, borrow a Brompton to compare feel/ride.
3. Compare for shopping vs. MomaChaire/Dutch bike.
Thanks for the video ideas!
Really want to see these 3 things being covered too !
I ride a Brompton pretty much everywhere except sand (and believe me, I have tried). The bikes handle just fine for long rides as well. An extended seatpost will help. I have one and a telescoping one. Whatever gets practical cycles into people's hands at a price that isn't out of reach gets a thumbs up from me.
The paint technique is called colour shift.
The paint is done with tiny pearls that reflect light as one colour in the direction and reflects light as another in the other direction. It's very cool.
here in singapore.. brompton, mobot and camp pikes are EVERYWHERE......... anyway glad to see a mention of my country in my frequent channel! :)
They seem very popular over there!
I got a Tern 20" folding bike. Might get another 16" Mobot Royale in future.
This type of foldable bikes like Mobot are very popular in Singapore as riders ride on pavements or PCN. If any breakdowns on the bikes during rides, we can just fold the bike and take a train or cab back home.
They do seem really convenient! You gotta put them in a bag here in Japan sadly.
Greetings from Singapore! We have many Brompton clones such as Pikes, 3Sixty and Paikesi.
Another good foldable bike to consider is the Birdy BD-1, which is also available in Japan. It has a monocoque aluminum frame with full suspension.
Which is the best quality? Will last the longest? Frame hinges etc.
What a great looking bike. Would be useful to do a 6 months or 1 year later review to see if the quality stand the test of time maybe. Thanks for sharing. Hopefully I can get my hands on one on my next trip to Singapore.
Thanks for the video! Love the color. The lock nut on the indicator chain needs to be tightened against the barrel adjuster. The way you have it, shifting will begin to slip. Also to note: no pedaling while shifting the 3spd IGH, pedal while shifting the 2spd derailleur side. Would love to see followup video on how you like it. Cheers!
Thanks for the tips!
The "Flex" is from the suspension block. (The parts which contacts the rear triangle when you slams onto the chassis, when you unfolds your bike)
I am from Singapore. Was riding the same bike but branded under Pikes for 8 months before selling it to buy a Brompton 6 speed. Pikes is a good bike and very enjoyable to ride even for long distances of up to 100km in my experience. There are some minor quality issues but these can be fixed.
Brompton build quality is much better for every component of the bike. There is no noticeable flex in the frame when going up slopes or during rapid acceleration. It rides like a full frame bike rather than a folding bike. I would say both pikes and brompton are good bikes but Brompton is the best.
*11:18** That invisible selfie stick is cool man LOL*
Great video. Nice to see Japan! Well produced. Both the Video and the Bike!!
In 1980s had a Bickerton aluminium foldable for London and a Claude Butler Dalesman for Oxford.
Brompton is great design. But being manufactured in UK is not efficient. Also the major frame q innovation stopped 20 year ago.
As an experienced cyclist over 47+ years, i can replace parts. Thus since Mobot frame is 100% excellent and legal. I can not justify being a blind "brand follower" of a UK built product.
The flex you're feeling is probably the suspension block doing it's job! Looks like a very good clone, many of the parts look identical to original Brompton parts. I think Brompton are using copyright on the look of the bike to fight clones like this now the patents have expired.
That could be it! curious to see how that copyright argument goes since it kind of defeats the purpose of design patents.
An EU court ruled that a design copyright was a legitimate alternative to a patent if the RESULTS of a design could be achieved in some other way. Personally, I have trouble imagining how someone could achieve the same three-fold results as the Brompton without copying almost all its design features. In this case, that defense would be irrelevant since this design is such a close copy, many of the same parts can be used. You can find that EU court decision described here: www.maucherjenkins.com/commentary/brompton-bike-case-cjeu-copyright-design
Thanks for sharing that. It seems like a strange ruling since it would really monopolize this type of 3-fold pattern and set a very controversial precedent. Curious to see how other international courts react.
Indonesia have 2 brands that has this copy, Element Pikes 6 speed,and United Trifold 3 speed, both are around 500 USD and brompton spare parts compatible..other is korean brand, 3sixty.
@@TwoWheelCruise I don't think it's the case. Dahon Curl is sold in EU and one can argue that it is Brompton copy as well. Yet because it has some changes to the looks, Brompton can't block it. This bike looks like direct copy of Brompton hence I don't see it being possible to sell it in EU.
It is both purple and blue! Thanks for this video! Although I have my own Trifold bicycle (an Aceoffix), it's nice watching this video about a Mobot Royale Trifold. So therapeutic indeed!
Thank you. I find your review very informative. I've been mulling on getting a Brompton like fold bicycle. Many brands these days doing the same.
I am truly enjoying your channel. great work👍 I was never a fan of folding bikes. I am in Canada, so like the US everything is “big” so traveling with a regular bicycle is easy. Having said that, this video gave me a better understanding and appreciation of a folding bicycle. Enjoy your ridding. 😊
So I went to checkout Mobot Royal. The 3 speed is 1200 SGD, plus 662 shipping to US = 1860 SGD ~ 1350 USD. That's really expensive for a clone. For that price I can get the Aline for cheaper; or the 3 speed C line for ~1800 USD. And I can get the brompton within an hour drive.
Not to mention parts, availability, and warranty.
In indonesia we have also Indonesian brompton called as element pikes. The price is only USD500.
I always wanted a Brompton folding bike which seems very practical for short commutes and be able to take into buildings with you instead of locking bike outside. The mobot sure does look promising, tho. I love the very compact fold design and color.
I did as well, but the price barrier was too high for me, especially as a first folding bike. They are great for traveling though
Looks good. l like to get one.
So nice review, thanks for sharing bro. 👍I just bought the Royale Dragon Red for my wife, she loves it. Such a great bike, and affordable price. 👌 Mobot has found a good segment. 👍
Awesome!
Do you get to keep the bike? If they're not paying you, but you get to keep a $1000 bike, that seems like it could bias the review, even if it's not intentional.
I’ve been eyeing the Mobot Royale for a while. Looking forward to your long term review! I’m looking for something just right for simple exploring here around Korea and hopefully on trips to Japan post covid.
It looks like it will be a great travel bike! We will post some more follow-up test videos coming up.
Go for it David, Mobot Royale will make you ride like a King 😎
Very nice chameleon color. Usually Brompton knock off have better crank arm ground clearance for 170mm so it's less risky on road bump where it's very dangerous if the pedal stuck but just be safe to level the pedal on bumps Also be careful with the transparent color front block it's easy to break compare to the solid color one since it's more durable material.
We love the color! Thanks for the tips!
very beautiful color indeed, Can't judge it's blue or purple from the video
Thanks! :)
Wow. Can't believe something from my country is in Japan.
Something made in China by Singapore copycat featured in japan
What lazy island country are u from.? Your tiny island ppl can't cook food eat out all day
The rich will go for Brompton.. the avg middle income like me will go for such nice color and foldie bike.. no matter wat brand you ride, at the end the most important is ..enjoy the ride!!!!
That bike is worth it just to make Thuong that happy! 💖
She's been wanting a folding bike for a while :)
@@TwoWheelCruise I know, she wants to go fishing too. 🐟
Nice bike. I see purple. Nice train going by. Thanks for sharing...🎥😃👍👌👊🚴♂️🚴♀️❤❤❤
Thanks for watching!
That’s awesome. Finally a Brompton clone. Perhaps the lower cost is due to lower quality components, but I would also factor in the difference in labor costs. Brampton bikes are made in England, so you will pay more for labor. Yours is a sweet looking bike. The color is super great. One thing I didn’t care for about the Brompton is the dull paint jobs. As far as ride is concerned, I tried riding a Brompton, but I didn’t quite care for it. A little flimsy feeling, and the smaller wheels gave the bike a bit rougher ride, unless you are riding on a smooth surface. Would I get one, well, I might consider the Royal based on the fact it’s so much cheaper than the original Brompton. For a folding bike, the design is better than anything else out there that I’ve seen. Great purchase, Cruise. I’m sure you both will have years of pleasure riding it. Well, you will once you get a longer seat post. Great fun!!
Thanks Kelala! The brighter colors and lower price point are really nice and yes, the labor cost is surely much higher in the UK.
Watching from Philippines.....most of Filipinos likes bike especially today pandemic...stay safe 😉😁😷👍
I have two and it is great.
Awesome!
Hi, Cruise! Great vid! Question: What quality compromises does this bike come with, compared to a Brompton?
I've enjoyed riding my Dahons, but recently purchased a Brompton Explore M6R, which I am enjoying equally, but it folds down so much smaller! Sweet for traveling!
Thanks and cheers!
I have been searching for an alternative to Brompton, I think this is it. Hope they ship to the US.
As a Dane I looked for a folding bike, at first from Asia, 3sixty or the like, but they didn't want to sell to Europe, maybe for Copyright Infringement, so in the end I bought a by then Top 2019 Flame Painted, black version SuperlightM6LXBrompton. Since then I have made it much lighter, for now 8,5 kilo with mudguards and about the same weight as the new Top, 4 gear Titanium Brompton, of course also with mudguards! And for half the price of one, even with the extra titanium and carbon parts.
But the Brompton is finely made with hinges and soldering looking very professional. Finn. Denmark
Wow! Thuong looks amazing on the new bicycle. Thank you very much for sharing another wonderful video regarding this new folding bicycle it was very interesting to watch.
Tom from UK.
The paint is adopting Three-layer Coating technology, with chameleon effect under different lighting or view from different angle. You can name is Metallic Purple, or Metallic Blue.
Good point on highlighting the flex man! It's gonna be a slight issue for me
I just love this bicycle
This mobot, paikesi is basically is rebrand from Element Pikes Indonesia. Check Pikes Gen 3
Is it true??
Gen 2
Check Element Pikes gen 2 or gen 3
Element Pikes in China is call paikesi no different only color and the brand mobot
The last version is gen 2.. im from indonesia..
At 2:50 the bike is Singapore brand made in Indonesia but not China. Very nice and quality bike.
Invisible selfie stick? You are an amazing human being.
Love it haha
Designed using tracing paper obviously, but it does look nice and will be very interesting to see how well it does in the long term as my Brompton is very sturdy and takes quite a battering on and off road. If you could get a Brompton to make a direct comparison that would be very interesting. Thank you for the video🎥👌
Yes, we'd like to make a direct comparison if possible
That's an awesome colour!
Hello from Meguro Ku! Fellow bike enthusiast!
Frame looks great. Cranks look insubstantial however. Main difference I see is no pentaclip attached to top of seatpost.
Thank you for sharing!
I also own a Brompton clone. The brand name’s called Pikes. As far as I know, it is one of the two available B-clones available here in the Philippines, the other being the 3sixty brand. I intended to by a Brompton but since it’s so difficult to get one here in the Philippines these days, plus it’s quite expensive to boot, I opted to try out the Pikes first. Getting a Brompton will most certainly burn a huge hole in my pocket so I figured I should just try it first and get the feel of that kind of bike. I’ve used road bikes and mountain bikes for as long as I can remember but only had very limited experience with a folding bike. So far, so good. What you and Thuong-chan got seems to perform similarly with Pikes. It’s called Royale so it’s probably just the same as the Camp Royale bike, also sold in Singapore if I remember correctly. It’s probably renamed for the market. Similar specs, as well as parts and components. Haven’t made any major upgrades on my Pikes yet but a lot of those in our local Pikes group already have. For upgrades, I suggest you change the front carrier block. The translucent plastic is brittle. Mine easily broke. Also change the suspension block for better ride comfort. Get the original Brompton replacement parts. You can also try the Schwalbe Marathon Racer or Kojak for the tires. You might wanna replace the pedals as well. On my Pikes, the stock folding pedals feel stiff.
Thanks for the extra tips! Mobot changed the name from Camp Royale to just Royale. Once I wear some of these parts out I will start replacing them, definitely going with marathons!
@@TwoWheelCruise I see. I didn’t know they changed name to simply “Royale”.
If I may also add. If you guys are gonna use the foldie for grocery runs, you might wanna get easywheel extenders. As it is, you can push around the bike just fine. But it will tend to tip over on its heavier side. Be advised tho that the dimensions of aftermarket brands are specific to Brompton measurements so make sure to check out the measurements before purchasing. I am assuming Royale and Pikes have the same or similar measurements, so I guess it’s logical to assume that you’ll have to use some washers to get a suitable fit.
And since the stock easywheels are also quite thin, should you guys want something beefier, you can use rollerblade wheels. Just try to look for larger diameter ones if possible so you’d have better ground clearance. I haven’t personally used those but I saw some from our local group that did and it seemed fine. Fun fact: the 3sixty B-clone use rollerblade wheels that light up instead of the easywheels.
Cool colours. Changes according to the angle of view.
Yeah, it's really cool :)
Love the color. Iʻm going to say more purple than blue. Looks like a fun riding bike.
Thanks! I think the same 😃
@@TwoWheelCruise Would love to see it in more direct sunlight, than the overcast skies. Still though looks really cool. Enjoy the ride!
Wow the bike paint is awesome!
Sweet folder, Cruise and Thuong!
Thanks!
The flex you are feeling is probably from the compression of the suspension block and not with the frame nor seat post.
Thanks for the tip!
Great bike
Nice. I own a Royale too. Enjoying every moment of it. I have seen a couple of friends upgrading the components. For me, I am happy as it is except for the saddle. I personally prefer the soft gel type.
Awesome! First upgrade for me will be a longer seatpost haha
Really digging the colour :) lovely purple flip
We really like it too! 😊
There are telescopic seatposts so you can still fold it compactly but still use it for taller riders.
Thanks! I'll look into these.
Hi from UK 🇬🇧 Good video
Looks like a decent bike. I'm guessing the joints are flexy just because in order to make a solid folding bike a lot of engineering needs to go into it but for a daily commuter seems legit. I personally stick with tern folding bikes, they're Rick solid and very fairly priced. The tern byb would be comparable in size since tern doesn't offer 16" folders. Cheers!
It's been a long time since Chinese engineering was crap, CNC has made sure of that, it's the lack of height of the frame that makes foldies seem flexible.
Living the dream
Nice color👍 and the bike looks great.
Thanks! 😁
To me it looks like a sapphire blue - beautiful regardless!
Really cool bike, hopefully it is as rugged and durable as a Brompton. I'd call the color Galaxy Blue especially with the sparkly glittery finish, but whatever it's called it looks great!!
Thanks Kyle! That sounds like a better color name haha. It's our first shiny bike 💎
Lovely folding bikes
Simple, good looking and like brompton👍
...saw a blog of a carbon frame Royale...really nice
Wow looks great on Thoung
Something that might be of interest to anyone interested in Bromptons, there are a few more Brompton clones from other companies that you can get from Singapore as well. One brand is called Pikes that is based from Indonesia I believe and another is 3sixty.
Yup. Pikes is from Indonesia and the 3sixty is Korean brand.
Do u think it's same OEM, with different marketing (and thus different parts on same frame)? Or are there clues in frame welds that speak to different frame factory?
Interesting, good to know!
Just install a drop bar and bamm you good to goooo 💯📈📈📈
Haha I'll start with the flat bar 😎
@@TwoWheelCruise hehe also add a bigger ring set for hear option. And the ✨BAMM ✨
Thanks for the informative review. I would never have thought that a foldable bike would be appropriate for long rides. Fast travel with decent control is a concarn for me. So, if this bike can be ridden at around 10-12 mph and still retain stability, I am interested in hearing more. I will be looking forward to more on the Royal folding bike.
John C. Bielik
We can easily maintain those speeds, but I will definitely want a longer seatpost. Lots of people do touring on similar style bikes.
Fantastic vid. Good review.. do you have a review on Raleigh foldable bike?
Thanks! I've never tried that one.
Shoot I want one but I’ve been cleared to continue working from home and no longer commuting. Maybe as a grocery getter (any reason to buy another bike). 😋
Working from home is great, but miss the bike commute Haha
excellente vidéo ,ce vélo est une alternative au brompton qui souffre d/un prix exorbitant !
Perfect jeans for testing the sadle
We have exactly the same bicycle in the Philippines but it is branded as PIKES.
Yes PIKES imported from Indonesia 🇮🇩
Wow. Never seen this bike before.
The hummingbird bike is the best folding bicycle I have ever tried/owned. It blows everything else out of the water because it is only 6.8kg and folds up (takes about 5 seconds to fold) in a way that the weight is equally balanced and the wheels do not double up so it is super easy to carry. Because the components are so high quality and because it is so light weight (with the special carbon wheel mags available as an option), no gears are needed. It is so light weight that it just keeps gliding after you pedal. And for hills you can stand up and use your body weight. I was really surprised that a single speed can be so fun to ride. And no trying to wheel it on awkward wheels because it is so easy to just carry. Nothing can beat it.
lol at almost 5000 USD. No thanks.
@@lazzb446 The components aren't cheap, almost all carbon bikes cost several thousand dollars. If you want the best parts that are lightweight, of course it will cost a lot. Its a hell of a lot more fun and still cheaper than cars or motorcycles, to use this bike combined with public transportation. No insurance, gas, repairs, license fees, etc. It is not an experience you can get on most bicycles either. It is really perfect for Japan. I am adding a kinekt suspension seat post to mine in addition to a spongy wonder bike seat for ultimate comfort.
Wow! My dream bike....
very nice shade of Blur-ple ...
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You forgot to add that Mobot provides a 5 years warranty on the frame & fork . I own a Royale too.
Thanks! It's written in the video description.
Good folding bike !
Thanks!
We are using B clones in the Philippines. There are 2 brands. The first one here was the 3Sixty. It costs around U$620 or so. It does not flex like your brand. it comes in 3 or 6 speeds. I owned this and it works well. Sold it as I had too many bikes already and I also had the original Brompton.
The newer one, about a year old is the Pikes. Way cheaper for 6 speeds at around U$500 or so. I haven't tried it yet, but it should be as good. Cheaper too.
As for the rear rack. We have that too with my Brompton and the 3Sixty and Pikes. They don't use the longer one. It is heavier and cumbersome. Also, basically, the hubs of these bikes are not noisy. Also, they don't flex. IF the locks and fit are good at the joints, no flexing. However, you do have a rear suspension block, that rubber thing at the rear under the seat post. That may be too soft. Get something stiffer, or one with metal springs + rubber combo.
What you will find is that most Brompton and clone users use the front block to attach bags. It is more convenient. For one, you still get to fold the rear wheel. You don't have to remove the contents there. At the front, it is a matter of unlocking the bag and you can remove the bag already. With the bag in front, you can also keep it there and push or pull the bike while the rear is folded like a trolly. The bag also stays in place even if you completely fold the bike!
Another advantage of the bag being in front is, you can put your water bottle there or purse, or whatever and it is easily reached. I go to the market and have my stuff all there. Remove it and enter the store, and get back and mount the bag. A good bag can carry more than 15kg, maybe 20kg. The block can hold it.
I also bought only the mount to the block and created my own front carrier so I can put any bag, backpack, basket, etc. Original Brompton bags are also expensive. So, you can make one yourself by simply buying the block that goes to the bike.
Trust me, try out using the front bag solution. You will not use the rear rack anymore. If you do, its simply because you have so many things to carry and you can't load it on the front.
As long as you use these small bikes for their intended purpose, they are more practical for urban commute. They can go to MRTs, trains, etc. Also inside establishments. No worries about it being stolen. These bikes are not super fast, but they accelerate quickly, very nimble, and spiffy to use. I say, go get yourself one, whatever the brand.
Thanks for all of your tips! Making our own front bag sounds like a fun project :)
@@TwoWheelCruise not sure how I can send a Pic of my own modified front rack that is detachable via the front block so you could see it.
FYI, the other half of the block costs around U$10 only. The standard front carrier or mini pannier, maybe another U$8-9.
Kabayan how do you compare your Brompton to ur clones?
The bike look so cute
Awesome review!! The one thing i love about Royale bikes is that most of the colour component are all in black, kinda look the "Black Edition" version. And also much more affordable compare to Brompton "Black Edition". Also could you recommend what kind of carrying bags are used for this folding bikes?? Looking forward to those reviews!! 😃👍
The colors are really nice! Not sure about bags yet
Hey guys, great work! Can you look into the Harry Quinn Portable E-Bike as well. It's basically a Brompton clone with an electric hub motor and internal battery. I want to get one instead of a Brompton for obvious reasons. Much appreciated if you guys can do it
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Isn't this a complete copy of a Brompton? I thought there was a company in Asia that Brompton had sued do to infringements?
I started getting interested with folding bikes and mini vellos today, and coincidentally this video just got uploaded... perfect timing! That's a nice bike! Stay safe! I'm a new subscriber :)
Thanks! We've been wanting to try them for a while :)
@@TwoWheelCruise great timing! stay safe, your channel is a big help for me. :)
Very nice bike ! I think you need 2 of them.
Might go that direction if this holds up well :)
Royal can be alternative for people who can't pursue brompton price no matter how many years for saving money due to inflation.
Pikes and this Mobat (Camp) are sourced from the same Shenzhen China factory. I did a bit of research on the Pikes as it’s available here in the Philippines and I’m interested in getting one. There’s also a Litepro version and a couple of others available on Shopee and Lazada. What’s nice about having these copies is that it grew the aftermarket parts for these bikes, I see a lot shared with Bromptons. I’m 5’10 and need to get the longer seatpost also. I tried a Pikes at my friends bike shop and noted that. A big difference with these bikes and Bromptons is the use of hi tensile steel on the forks and rear triangle vice chromoly used in the Bromptons.
Thanks. At 6'2" I wondered about that.
Thanks for the extra information! I noticed a few different brands seemed to be using the same factory for the frame. That's a good point about the growing aftermarket parts.
if you ever get a chance to try to ride a Moulton folding bike, really unique feel, really cool.
Moulton is not a folding bike but more a separable bike
i like folding bikes!
Nice vid on folding bike. But is it proper to put a seat post suspension for a better ride?
Thuong looks so happy with the foldie!
She was really excited for this to arrive :)
Nice bike 😍
@Two Wheel Cruise An "off-topic" question: Have you or your wife rode around Tokyo and if so, what places do you recommend for a good ride?
Looks purple. Nice color. Definitely looks like a Brompton clone. I've ridden folding bikes in the past. Dahon and custom Bike Friday folders. I'm 6 feet 3 inches tall so I wouldn't go smaller than 20 inch wheels. You no doubt noticed how fast the acceleration is due to the small wheels. I agree to swap the handlebars for a straight flat one.
Thanks for the tip! It's our first 16" bike, but yeah flat bars and 20" sound nice.
As a Persian I approve the colour
There's a cheaper Brompton clone/alternative also here in Southeast Asia called Pikes. Retails for about ~500USD.
Oh wow, that's really cheap!
@@TwoWheelCruise you can google element pikes and 3sixty. They all brompton clone
FYI, Royale, pikes, paikesi all came from the same manufacture. Just different branding for different regional market. And of cos, the bikes might come with different components depending on target market and pricing level.
@@renjie9015 are they all made in China ?
@@sohailahbalmer7094 yes by Camp China Factory.