Welcome everyone! Please remember to LIKE this video and SUBSCRIBE because then we can spend more time into growing our channel and put out more content for you guys! Hope you enjoyed one of Muslim Minds first pieces of original content, let us know what other topics we should create videos like this of! Any questions or comments you have for us, leave them down below so we can answer them! May peace be upon you all!
Islam is one religion with no sects. There will be 73 sects or rather deviations but only the true group one is saved. The true one that follows the Quran and Sunnah and three righteous generations. Madahib are not denominations or sects. All four madahib are haqq. As for theology there is only one theology that all madahib and the three righteous generations followed. Islam should not be understood through the reason of the Greek Philosophers. Allahu3alam.
I’m a Christian, but this video was well thought out and easy to follow through! Shoutout to Reedemed Zoomer for the inspiration, but y’all still did your thing making this simple and concise. Massive respect to you guys and God bless 🙏
1) that is a hadith 2) the authentic part is that the muslims will divide into 72 sects 3) The part with contention is the part that they are all in hell except one. Assume all the statements are authentic. The hadith states that this saved sect is the "Jama'a", or main body of Muslims. Not some fringe esoteric group like Isma'ilis Not heretics like Ahmadia/Qadiyanis Not radicals like the khawarij (closest modern equivilant is modern day IZIZ) Or deviants like the Jahmis Or the extreme grave worshiping sufis He also said in another hadith "God's hand is with the Jama'a (main body of Muslims)", and indicated in many other hadiths the importance of not deviating from the main body of Muslims. As long as you are upon the pure, prophetic methodology of sunni Islam, as long as you don't differ in fundamentals of creed (oneness of Allah, Allah not manifesting in creation) you will ve saved For more info: islamqa.info/en/answers/90112/who-are-the-saved-group www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/107122/eternity-in-hellfire-for-the-72-deviant-sects islamqa.info/en/answers/129109/is-following-the-four-madhhabs-included-in-the-hadith-about-the-73-sects @@Orthosaur7532
@@MuslimMindsUSShias have a distinct belief of God though they adhere to Divine Simplicity (a Catholic belief too to be fair) and has a Trinitarian inspired belief such as the belief of the Essence, ilm Allah (knowledge of God), the Soul where creation comes from.
although the notion of the Divine Simplicity held by shi'is are similar to Christian Catholic "energia theology" in comparison to Shi'ite "sifa theology" that they're distinct from the unknown essence of God and created wholly that creation may identify God through them. this is also why the shiites can say the imams are with the attributes of God, and same with Christ (though the shiites believe imams are persons on their own, but we believe the humanity of Christ is united to the divine person, hence it is Divine and the person is attributed with attributes of which God is identical to, such as way and truth, and love (Christ is not a human person, the union of the person which is Divine and the flesh isn't to say God changed)
and we also believe Christ' person isn't created, and the attributes attributed to the person is by His nature whilst Shi'is believe the persons of the imams definitely are created but by the sifa inherited to them became what they are (basically nestorianism)
This video is done very well, as an Orthodox. Really explains thing well, especially fkr those who are interested in differences in Islam or simply want to learn more about the religion. Thank you
one correction, the work tassawuf has many meanings in arabic. Some tasawwuf (sufism) is bida'h and some is praiseworthy. Even sunni muslims engage in tasawwuf to an extent where the understanding of tasawwuf is to have a deeper connection with allah and to enhance your remembarance of allah transcending the physical world. Deobandis and barelwis espicially. Also, the ash'ari and maturidii school of aqeedah are almost the same with a few minor differences which even some kalam scholars hold that they are just semantically different.
Haha we can’t go too in depth, gotta keep it simple and engaging. Maybe in the future though 👀- Hamza Besides, Quran only and Ibadis are considered heretical, not technically denominations or sects. They are not commonly known or associated as a type of Islam such as ahmadis by the masses. They are more independent Islamic self-associating groups. -Rohaib
@@MuslimMindsUS For your kind info, Ibadis are Muslims, not Heretics. However Ahmadis, Nation of Islam and also pure Quranists are considered Heretics. @ 22 April 2024 # 5:59 PM
Nice video boys! It's like the Redeemed Zoomer video about Christian Denominations! I'd like to add the the Sufi whirling practice is specific to the Mevlevi order of Sufism. Orders of Sufism, or Tariqa, is defined as the path to God or Haqq, i.e: Connecting to the divine. Most orders follow the same fundementals of Islam anyways. The differences would be in how they do their hadras/dhikrs. Some do whirling, some just chant astagfiullah, la illaha illah la over and over, some just do it in silence. Depends. It would also be incorrect to call Sufism a sect... It's more like a practice within Islam or dimension for the lack of better term, trying to connect to Allah on a deep spiritual level. Most Sufis are Sunnis.
Islam is one religion with no sects. There will be 73 sects but only the true one is saved. The true one that follows the Quran and Sunnah and three righteous generations. Madahib are not denominations or sects. All four madahib are haqq. As for theology there is only one theology that all madahib and the three righteous generations followed. Islam should not be understood through the reason of the Greek Philosophers. Allahu3alam.
@@coda5153 Rasoolullah most of the time drank sitting down so we should do the same. However he drank stand up so it is not haram. But it is better to sit down. What is your point here?
@@user-kc4rh6wn6u Correction. All madhabs aren’t haqq in the sense that every single ruling within these madhabs is a green light and you can pick and choose. The madhabs are generally correct, but some rulings are wrong within a particular madhab, as scholars are humans and get things wrong. An example is Hanafis saying one doesn’t need a guardian, which goes against a clear Hadith.
Read what the prophet (pbuh)'s will was,he said "I left in you that if you take guidance in you won't be lost,Allah's book and my household,they won't be separated" This is in sahih Bukhari and you can search it
I am irreligious but I have a deep respect for Islam (frankly, more than any other religion). Thank you for making such informative and eye opening videos about your religion. ❤
My best Muslim friend has told me that Sufism isn't really a denomination itself but more of a "Thought" than a denomination. He's described himself as a "Hanafi-Sufi", and basically follows what the Ottoman Empire followed.
My parents grew up in middle east as muslims but they moved after the war so, I grew up in the church and thought that was the whole religion just going to church every Sunday and eventually stopped going and started to do my own thing. But I wanted to find the purpose of life because I knew everything we worked for would pass away. So I started to look into all the religions to see if christianity was even really the ultimate truth. Later on opened up the Bible and saw the Jesus people talked about was completely different from what was in the Bible. I started to draw closer to the higher power and had a supernatural encounter with him and I felt the most love and peace and was truly indescribable and out of this world, and nothing i've ever felt from then on and never will tbf will come close to that experience, but I was shocked because I wasn't expecting this encounter, so I went up to my balcony and everything looked brand new like it was the first time seeing the nature when I looked outside. Almost like a new born and it was like it was so detailed . Every time I used to go outside it looked so boring and mundane and natural but this time that all changed, and I’m here to tell you it’s about a relationship not religion and he is real and did die on the cross for you willingly and thinks you as the only person and was thinking of you while dying.
Zaydiyya do not do any of the things it is said "shia" do, but we do deny the twelver doctrine of an infallible Imam, and the doctrine that Imamate can be passed down. The most authentic opinion in the Zaydi school is that the Sunni hadiths can be acted upon. To be clear we do not believe in a "line" of Imams as no human can absolutely declare someone obligatory to follow. The Imams are chosen by shura, like at the vent of saqifah.
This was an informative and balanced video but there are a few things I would like to point out. 1.Mutazillites were their own sect not a Sunni creed. Both the early Asharis and Atharis used to refute them and Imam Ahmad (Rahimahullah) was tortured for opposing their view that the Quran was created and not the Speech of Allah (during the Mihna). 2. Not all Atharis were literalists, many of the traditional and early Atharis considered the wordings of the divine attributes to be Mutashabihat (meaning their true meaning was only known to Allah). 3.The image you used for the Barelvis were actually Turks, many Barelvis have opposition to musical instruments and the whirling practices. Many Deobandis also belong to Sufi orders as well (like the Naqshandis,Qadiris,Chishti and Suhrawardiyya). You will usually only find both of these groups amongst South Asians though. I get you couldn’t cover all sect but there were a few other sects which existed (at least historically) such as the Karramiyah (who believed Allah was made out of body parts,sat down on the Arsh and physically came down the Heavens at night and believed the universe was eternal), as well as the Jahmimiyyah (who believed Allah was literally everywhere and had many similarities to the Mutazillites). There were also the Murji’ah along with the Qadiriyah (the Qadiriyah used to reject Destiny and claim that calamities do not come from Allah but only good does which is why they were referred to as the Magians of the Ummah). There also some Shia subjects like the Nusayris (who call themselves “Alawites”) whose beliefs are in line with the early Shia Ghulat and Batiniyyah. They fall into Shirk (polytheism) due to them believing Imam Ali (Rahimahullah) was the incarnation of Allah. There were some other Shia subsects like the Qarmatians/seveners.
Yea because it’s clearly a false belief. Everyone stays or accepts the Sunni paradigm while people leave Shi’ism. It goes against sound reason and the fitarh.
@@ozone2126 Then title the video "a criticism of Shia beliefs" or something. I know plenty who left Sunnism and became Shia-I myself left Sunnism and converted Mu'tazilism...
Oh yes. Let’s believe in a religion that’s 300 years after Jesus, advocates for a 100% man 100% god, Hercules person, a triune but one god being, a dying man god being, and has a corrupt book… yeah, NO! P.S. Jesus was born in Palestine, which means he wasn’t some white-skinned, blue-eyed guy who waved around an American flag.
Thank you for the video! I am a Christian but I am interested in Islam culture and history, even though I don't believe it is true. Peace and God bless!
Quick advice, brothers. Just like how you criticized the Nation of Islam and others, it would have been wise to criticize Asharis, Shias, and the rest too. Also, in the video it almost seem like you guys were differentiating Atharism and Salafism, yet they’re the same thing. p.s No ill intent.
We noticed this too brother actually after the fact, we were too middle ground sounding. Khair Insha Allah, this vid will be more so informative and we will probably make follow-up videos break these down further bithnillah
Assalamu Alaikom, very good video Allahuma Barik, but I had a question, is it a must to choose a school of aqeedah or can i just believe in Allah point blank period, for example with the issue of Allah having a hand. The Atharis say "Allah has a hand unlike ours and in a way that befits his majesty" and asharis say "Allah does not have a hand and this is a metaphor to his power", now although both ideas are plausible am I as a layman allowed to choose neither and say "I believe in Allah and his hand in whatever way he meant it whether it is literal or metaphorical because he knows best"? Also hypothetically, if someone was to choose the "wrong" aqeedah, will they still be considered a muslim on the day of judgement? Im looking forward to anyones feedback.
Salafis say he has a hand that befits him, Atharis say what you say, it's called Tafwidh al Ma'ana "We leave the meaning to Allah SWT" is the view of Ahmad bin Hanbal and many other prominent atharis. Asha'aris also say the same as the atharis, it's just New Asharis and Maturidis that say it is a metaphor. As for hellfire and aqidah, all of the 3 are valid except the salafi aqidah, but if the person follows any of them when they aren't a scholar they won't be judged.
@@apexinn Waseem, don't listen to this guy; he might be on drugs or something. Instead, "Dus Dawah" is a good channel that teaches the correct creed, which is Salafi/Atharism. P.S. Use the tools Allah gave you, like sound reasoning and your Fitrah. When you do, you'll come to realize Salafism is true because we advocate nothing but Quran, sunnah and sahaba.
All Asharis Dont say its a metaphor for power. You have a misunderstanding. Most Asharis Say its better not to delve in these matters while affirming Allah is not like creation(official position), Even refraining from translating "Yad" as Hand, like the salafis. Some later asharis did interpretation of it as power, to prevent Tajsim(Likening of God to creation). Asharis say Allah doesnt have a physical hand like humans, because thats what hand translates to.Allah is not a body since bodies are created, The Quran says There is no likeness to God and hes unique. Best thing for us laymen is, Hold Surah Ikhlas for Aqeedah, since its very clear, and Was the Answer to "Who is God that you worship?"
5:23 I wish you could just explain the domninations without your personal opinion on them saying there is no proof and what not,which makes this video pretty biased against shia honestly
You didn't mention ismailis (aga Khanis), who consider themselves to be the second largest "Shia sect". They don't have islamic salah. They only do their own dua, which isn't done facing Kaba, and it is 3 per day, combined into 2. Once in the morning and two combined in the evening. It is a secretive cult-like sect centred around the idolisation of "the Aga Khan", to whom they are obliged to give a large % of their income every month. Some consider this to be a Shia sect, others consider it to be a financial scam. Check out Salim Lalani's TH-cam channel. He is a former Aga Khan devotee who has exposed their practices, which he sees as abusive and exploitative. What's your opinion on Ismailism?
Because we had a lot to cover in ten minutes we only brushed on this sect barely, maybe one day in the future we can expose it further. Jazak Allah khair for sharing
quick question why are these denominations of islam in your eyes not the same as the Christian denominations? i don't think either effect the validity of the religions but wanted to hear your thoughts on it . Also what school are you guys?
From what we learned and know about Christianity, there are huge differing beliefs between Catholics and Protestants that are too huge to ignore regarding the direct creed of Christianity. All of islams “denominations” are not differing on that nature, the foundation of the faith is secure and unshakable, there are just differences on small legal and ritual matters. To our understanding, the differences in Christian denominations are larger and some Christian groups call other Christians heretics and stuff like that. Let me know if that makes sense and interested to hear your thoughts! We are Sunnis and don’t specifically hold to one group. - Hamza
@@MuslimMindsUShey Hamza! Thanks for the response. I understand your point of view but I would disagree with that statement since those who are actually educated/ in scholar work of Christianity will agree while there are differences the three of prots orthodox and catholic agree on the fundamental essentials (found in the nicene creed) i will agree though on a general pop level as in the average Protestant calling each other heretical that is definitely an issue that arises a lot from bad teachings (especially in America lol) . This is a topic i looked into alot so id like to think i have a decent grasp on it but thank u for ur response regardless!. Another question if you guys don’t hold to any school of thought in particular do you go to certain schools of thought depending on the situation at hand or do you just hold to what the authentic hadith and Quran say and not mind everything else? Thanks! Great video as always
"Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the FINAL messenger", what about the group called Ahmadiyya? That group can be found in India and Pakistan if i'm not mistaken.
assalamu alaikum, may Allah accept your efforts but this is too simplistic of an explanation with some mistake my brothers. one could easily be misled by this video. i would recommend taking the video down and remaking it or leaving this topic till you're more knowledgeable. better safe than sorry. some feedback please read it carefully: - in mentioning shias visiting shrines you neglected to mention they commit shirk (the greatest sin) by making duas to their saints. you also neglected to mention twelvers/raafidah curse the companions and doubt the Quran's preservation. if one has these beliefs ofcourse it takes one out of the fold of Islam - you called schools of fiqh and schools of aqidah both "schools of thought". this is quite confusing and might make one assume they're further sub categories... (they're not). call them schools of fiqh and schools of aqidah (or the best english equivalent) - you call followers of Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab "Wahhabis". this is an exonym (a namecalling label) my brothers. there's no such sect that calls themselves "wahhabi" - you often cannot pronounce words properly (no offense). such as calling ahl-e-hadith ahle "E" hadith. it's pronounced more like "eh". or pronouncing shia matam (strong t) as ma-th-am - you mentioned kharijites alongside Ahmadis. this might make it seem like they're out of the fold of Islam. they're not An-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said: “The view of ash-Shafi'i and the majority of his fellow scholars is that the Khawarij are not to be described as disbelievers; this also applies to the Qadariyyah and the majority of the Mu‘tazilah and other groups that follow whims and desires.” (Sharh Muslim, 7/160) I advise you to avoid the fake neutral approach of non Muslim channels and be proud of saying the truth even if it seems "biased" may Allah bless you
The problem in the video is that many of the things that your attributing to certain schools are in their counterparts, you should of done more research But thank you for your efforts.
Assalamualaikum Akhi, we attempted to highlight what those schools were most known for. Other school may definitely have had those same points, however some are known more for a speciality than others
@@MuslimMindsUS وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته that’s understandable in some points, but things like ijmaa and qiyas and shafii madhab.. not really something special to them, qiyas is more emphasized in hanafi fiqh and everyone except dhahiri school use it a lot, also ijmaa is used by all school so not really a shafii thing.
4:46 What you said is really your own belief and opinion of the Sunni sect we Shia beleives that the imams are chosen from Allah (aswt) and the prophet (pbuh) DID mention who the next caliphate will be,read ghadir khumm hadith.
I saw your video on the Christian denominations and I would like to see your guys honest opinion and react to this song please ( O Come to the Altar - Elevation Worship ) Thank-you and hope you had a good Ramadan
People who use it as such are typically ignorant of its true meaning. Every true Muslim would technically believe they are salafi as we try to emulate the way of the Salaf. - The early Muslims who lived with and followed the teachings of the prophet Muhammad ﷺ However, the term has garnered some negative attention due to extreme individuals who use the term to describe themselves. Wahhabism, in practice is too strict and ignores reason and practicality (obviously within the Islamic paradigm) -Rohaib
4:30 Don't just explain why you don't support their interpretation, provide *Why* they believe Ali should have been selected. Shia believe Ali was chosen because of the Bey3a at Ghdier Qum. And the story about Abu Bakr being instructed by the Prophet to Lead Prayer goes against the fact that he instructed Abu Bakr to leave Medinah on an expedition.
We avoided going too deep into the disagreements for the sake of keeping the video short. Maybe in a future video. We highlighted two important elements, the prophet never directly appointed a successor, and on his death bed he chose Abu Bakr radiallahuan to lead the prayer
@@MuslimMindsUS You are just proving your bias. Instead of providing a brief insight into the schools of Islam, you highlight why this group must surely be in the wrong. Either be impartial and mention the arguments of both, or be brief and mention neither.
Length and time He can not go into detail. I agree he was biased [ i am shia] I left a comment on this video. It goes into detail about all things which Muslim minds are interested which goes against what We believe... You can find it and read it, it will surely please you
@@MuslimMindsUS 1. You can do istijmaar instead of istinjaa 2. istinjaa does not need to be done immediately 3. man's awrah is up to knees & not including them 4. the condition for mas-h is that the type of sock must be such that the colour of skin isn't seen 5. only school that allows men to wipe over khimar during wudhu (also men over turban depending on conditions) 6. touching a non-mahram doesn't break wudhu (opposed to shafi'is) 7. fatihah isn't obligatory to recite for the one being led by an imam 8. woman (even non-mahram) can pray next to imam as long as not touching 9. jumu'ah can be prayed at duha (before zenith) 10. jumu'ah can be prayed in the desert area 11. when eid and jumuah are on the same day, you're exempt from jumu'ah as long as you pray eid prayer 12. eid prayer is only fard kifaya 13. many concessions for prayer to be combined 14. unlike hanafis, hanbalis allow for prayers to be combined while travelling 15. witr can be only 1 rak'ah 16. one may just pray fatiha during obligatory prayers 17. ^ non-obligatory too, obviously 18. women can lead other women in salah as opposed to malikis 19. women can pray in the masjid, opposed to latter-day hanafis 20. tawarih is 20 rak'ahs, as opposed to malikis who require 36 21. gold that women use as jewellery is exempt from zakah 22. only one upright person is needed to see the moon for the entering of ramadan 23. opposed to malikis, someone who mistakenly eats/drinks while fasting doesn't need to make up his day 24. no kaffarah is needed for the one who breaks fast in ramadan, except in the instance of sexual intercourse 25. only vomiting purposely breaks the fast 26. hajj tamattu' is preferrable 27. sacrificing animal on eid al-adha' is sunnah & not wajib 28. a woman whose marriage ended in khula only has one month of iddah 29. the khula is not considered a divorce and the couple can remarry after a khula
Pretty sure the teaching in Ahmadiyya far outshines the mainstream understandings of true Islam. It does NOT make up fairytale narration out of the Quran or the Hadith. It follows Quran much closely thanks to their Prophet (Their Masih and Mahdi) which is subject of opposition and is considered “boring” compared to mainstream ideas that Jesus is somehow still alive and will return and fight dajjal (a person) together with Imam Mahdi. Cool story for a novel, still fictional. Similar to… when the Jews was waiting for their Messiah, but got Jesus instead. And there is a list of stuff that makes way more sense than mainstream understanding. Just closely read 5:116-117. If Isa(as) comes back the Quran has to be abrogated. Isa(as) cannot be saying those words of the Quran if he actually comes back. But some muslims ullama believe Quran can be abrogated. This is an invention, and a helpful tool to support their narratives
Muslim Minds is a typical example of one of the 72 sects. They prefer to create their own definition of a Muslim rather than use the definition present in Quran and Ahadtih.
@@That_dawg420 wuts ur prove? your comment is baseless lifeless and stupidity of climax. He said he was pro-sunni because Muslims mind didn't use Shia hadith interpretation to give its overview. He only used Sunni interpretation. Secondly the video needs to be short and concise and his views were mostly solely based upon what sunni believed no shia comment. I do not hate sunni, I have great sunni friends. We both are Muslims with minor differences and believe in core beliefs of Islam. How about you replace your keyterm *baseless* with something more pleasant :D
Why don't all Islam denominations accept the Quran as being a creation (not eternal), wouldnt it fit better with the concept of Tawheed? If the Quran is uncreated, that would seem like the Quran itself is divine no?
8:45 There is no such thing as Wahhabism Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab did not invent a new Religious doctrine , he was Hanbali and did not invent something called Wahhabism. He was only spreading Sunnism in Arabia and fighting Sufism.
Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab hated the Hanbali madhab after he realized they believed in tawassul and did not believe in destroying Jannatul Baqi. Leave the cult of Anthropomorphism.
@@gharib6458 You are delusional. Fights a doctrine that doesn't exist to begin with Literally no one claims to be Wahhabi Because there is no such thing as Wahhabism!!
@@destroylonely428 they literally mended relationship and there so much Daleel for that. And let’s say they didn’t, the prophet Muhammad (SAWA) literally confirmed that the sahabah have Allah on their side and that Allah was pleased with them. There are literally 10 sahabah that are confirmed jannah and from them, 4 are cursed by the rawafidh. Even when Uthman (RA) was getting attacked, Imam Ali (AS) asked his followers to defend him. Wallahi if the original Shia of Ali were alive today, they would be from Ahlul Sunnah
The shias do not believe Imam Ali (as) should have been elected as the leader of the ummah, we believe he was chosen by God, as the Prophet DID INFACT EXPLICITLY state this during Ghadeer, atleast do correct research
Most of the groups covered aren’t really “sects” as we understand in English or describing other faiths, just minor differences in rituals that’s do not effect the fundamentals That’s why the main distinction we included is shiaism as it moves past just standard differences of opinions
@MuslimMindsUS Thats objectively false. Shiaites (atleast the twelfth ones, which are the majority) hit themselves with chains on the begining to the end of muharram. they also pray on rocks. combine their prayers and their hijri calender is somehow a day off. some of the sufis dance in the mosques. and sing to "allah allah" while wobbling their heads. they believe wudu gives them special powers or something. the ahmadiyya have a whole new prophet somehow DESPITE the quran clearly stating that there wont be a new prophet after prophet muhammad s.a.w call them whatever you want. theres no shia muslim or sunni muslim or whatever muslim...theres only muslim and kaffir. there is no gray area. i would highly suggest you educate yourself on the dangers of the rawafidh and the khawarij lest you may be preyed as the ignorant
@@hixark4502 As a 12er, I will say.... You have absolutely 0 understanding of Shia Islam. You are replying heavily in regards of stereotypes bud... That chain thing is only down by small small minority like 5% of Shai. [It's cultural] Its fr banned in Iran- Also, what do you mean by worshipping on stone? It's made out of clay, when we prostate we keep our heads on Earth [soil] not something that is human-made or organic... Listening to you makes me wonder may Allah guide you out of the hatred that is consuming you
@@hixark4502 *Educate yourself* I would say to you rather you saying to Muslim minds.... Do you know Khawarji were the enemies of Shia? They murdered Imam Ali [as] Khawarji don't exist today, the only one who exist is the off shoot branch Ibadi in Oman...... Khawajis are Muslims extremist who believe in violence..... If I rem correctly that's suppose to be ISIS who call themselves Sunni while kill and murd Muslims [mostly Shia]..... As a Shia I don't believe ISIS should represent Sunnis, they are not. I have sunni friends and they are best of ppl....
I like you guys and iv been watching your videos from time to time. Your are pretty knowledgeable for your age and as someone about same age it is nice to see, but these "im right, you are wrong" leads nowhere. I know that one of your main reasons not to believe in Bible is belief that bible is corrupted. But please reconsider that it isnt just written text ,there were thousands of martyrs from first centuries. How is it possible all of them couldnt remember two simple sentences (about Christ divinity) but nevertheless they laid their lives for them! Are all of them insane? This is just one of many problems with that theory but almost no one talks about this, especially western preachers who forget or simply ignore first 15 or even more centuries of the Church... It is so sad, please take this in consideration. Wish you all the best and may the Lord finish his work with you :)
@@AlQuranAlKareem-tf9lpI bet they don’t even know they history of those letters. Hint: 2nd temple destroyed and the letters (Yode, Hay, Vave, Hay) or YHWH were left. And the Jews didn’t say the word because they thought the pronunciation of the word for God was lost. So to be respectful to god they just said Elohim.
@@MuslimMindsUS they divided into sects each following a path more ignorant than the other and rejected the order of the prophet Twelver Shias follow Quran and Ahlulbeit as the prophet ordered Following Ahlulbeit = Following Prophet Muhammad = Following Allah Following Abu Hanifa # Following Ibn Hanbal # Following Shafi'e # Following Malek By the way , Ibn Hanbal sent Takfir upon Abu hanifa and celebrated his death See how much deviant they are
@@MuslimMindsUS they divided into sects each following a path more ignor/ant than the other and rejected the order of the prophet Twelver Shias follow Quran and Ahlulbeit as the prophet ordered Following Ahlulbeit = Following Prophet Muhammad = Following Allah Following Abu Hanifa # Following Ibn Hanbal # Following Shafi'e # Following Malek By the way , Ibn Hanbal sent Ta/kf/ir upon Abu hanifa and celebrated his dea/th See how much deviant they are
___________________*(• each of this marks a paragraph. 3 • mean that disclaimer, 2 • mean it contains a hadith or reference)*____________________ •••This gonna be controversial *[nvm everything I say in this comment is controversial lol. btw remember I am Shia so my perspective is all according to Shi'ite. I wanna give recognition to what we think in this matter. I don't want to spread hate, I don't hate Sunni. I have great Sunni friends, all are great people. I hope one day this hatred ends and we all live in peace & harmony!! :D]* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As a Shia, I would like to point out this video is great as per its length and does a good job of building the bases of Shi'ites. However, I would like to point out that your overview of Shi'ite was solely based upon the Sunni hadith, and no regard was taken from Shia hadith... It would have been great if you also put views over from shia hadith in part with Sunni ones in the Shia overview. [I understand you had to make the video as quick and short as possible but a mention of interpretation taken only taken from Sunni hadith would have been awesome! ] Before I begin, I will say here is where the Muslim Minds overview is rejected by Shias [detailed overview is below] 1) 4:35 2) 4:44 3) 5:26 4) 5:48 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I will give oversight of what Shia believe and what our interpretation of hadith proves in the sect overview: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) 4:35 ••Hadithul Ghadir is one of the main evidence Shia use to prove the appointment of Imam Ali AS as caliph, among other things. In it, the prophet Pbuh mentions what is known as Hadith Al-Thaqalayn (hold on to Quran and Ahlul Bayt AS, to never go astray), as well as *"Whoever I am his maula, Ali is his Maula"*. And to top it off, Umar at the end of the speech came to Imam Ali AS to congratulate him. [Congragulate him for becoming Maula of faith] Now the word Maula has numerous meanings, *it can mean successor or friend* •The entire incident is undisputed in its occurrence, it was attended by at least 70 thousand Muslims in broad daylight, and the news spread to all Sahaba. It was the last Hujjah of the prophet pbuh, he was bidding farewell to the Ummah, so everyone expected a major announcement. •How Sunnis interpret it: "The prophet PBUH was only saying Imam Ali is his "friend", but not his successor". •My point against this is that everyone knew that Imam Ali was a friend of the Holy Prophet. Not only he was married to his daughter but also Saad Ibn Abu Waqas recorded that the Messenger said to ‘Ali: "Are you not satisfied that you are to me like Aaron to Moses except that there shall be no prophethood after me?". All these factors proved his great relationship with the Holy Prophet so for the Prophet to say in front of 70000 people that Ali is his *friend* makes no sense unless he was there to regard Ali as his *successor*... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) 4:44 •According to Shia narrations when AbuBakr saw the prophet was sick he went to the mosque to lead the prayer (without the prophet telling him to do so) but as soon as the prophet felt better and was informed that AbuBakr went to lead the prayer he got angry and ordered those around him (I think Imam Ali and Ibn Abbas) to help him and take him to the mosque and he was taken to the mosque while his feet were dragged on the ground (he couldn't walk by himself) when he reached the mosque AbuBakr was standing at the front so the prophet dragged him aside and he led the prayer while he was seated. Sunnis regard this as the Holy Prophet himself ordered Abu Bakr to lead the prayers. Remember, most of the Sunni narrations in this regard are from Aisha. *Some clues show the story wasn't the way Sunnis tell it. For example:* •• The prophet had ordered AbuBakr and Umar to attend the army of Usama which was camping outside of Medina and was ready to set off but they refused to obey the prophet until the prophet said: "May Allah curse those who refuse to attend the army of Usama".so AbuBakr shouldn't be present in Medina so that the prophet send him to lead the prayer in his stead. •According to Sunnis, Prophet came to the mosque but didn't draw Abubakr away, rather he sat at the front and led AbuBakr's prayer and AbuBakr led the prayer of the people. That means there was one congregation prayer with two Imams! (sunnah.com/mishkat:1140) •The following narration shows that AbuBakr was not leading the prayer rather he was just a Mukabbir (the person who says the Takbir loudly so people keep track of the prayer): sunnah.com/abudawud:606 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) 5:26 Here is a playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLCWrVR_uQBZTQbSyA3YdMpqM7Jj9a_KHe.html Scroll and you will find a video titled *"Why occultation?". The video does a good job of explaining. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4)5:48 *How can an Imam guide other people to the truth if they either don't know what it is or refuse to obey with it when they know it?* •• The path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked your anger or of those who are astray. 1:7 •• And We made them Imams guiding by Our command. And We inspired to them the doing of good deeds, establishment of prayer, and giving of Zakah; and they were worshippers of Us. 21:73 •• And when Abraham was tried by his Lord by [His] commandments and the latter fulfilled them, He said: "Behold, I shall make thee a Imam of men. He [Abraham] asked: "And [wilt Thou make Imams] of my offspring as well? "[God] answered: "My covenant does not embrace the evildoers." 2:124 •• And of thy Lord blessings [of Imamate] proclaim it 93:11 ••O you who believe! Obey God, and obey the Apostle and [obey] those from among you who have been entrusted with authority [the Imams]; and if you are at variance over any matter, refer it unto God and the Apostle, if you [truly] believe in God and the Last Day. This is the best [for you], and best in the end •••*This is one of the frequently asked questions, here is a Reddit reply on this same question and it does a great job of explaining [Maybe too great :P]* www.reddit.com/r/shia/comments/uyaoe4/i_have_some_questions_about_infallibility/? www.reddit.com/r/shia/comments/stshnn/one_of_the_few_hadiths_which_explicitly_mentions/hx5sczb
Welcome everyone! Please remember to LIKE this video and SUBSCRIBE because then we can spend more time into growing our channel and put out more content for you guys!
Hope you enjoyed one of Muslim Minds first pieces of original content, let us know what other topics we should create videos like this of!
Any questions or comments you have for us, leave them down below so we can answer them!
May peace be upon you all!
Islam is one religion with no sects. There will be 73 sects or rather deviations but only the true group one is saved. The true one that follows the Quran and Sunnah and three righteous generations. Madahib are not denominations or sects. All four madahib are haqq. As for theology there is only one theology that all madahib and the three righteous generations followed. Islam should not be understood through the reason of the Greek Philosophers. Allahu3alam.
th-cam.com/video/J9_8xHxKiiI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6tQJqYNtGsnEHqkZ
I’m a Christian, but this video was well thought out and easy to follow through! Shoutout to Reedemed Zoomer for the inspiration, but y’all still did your thing making this simple and concise. Massive respect to you guys and God bless 🙏
Appreciate it Patrick
the thumbnail is like the muslim version of that christian denominations explained in 10 minutes
Yup, we got inspiration from Redeemed Zoomer 😎😅
@RehanShaikh-zo2leDoesn't the Quran literally say that 72 sects will go to hell? How does that not count as "sect"?
@RehanShaikh-zo2le ur bringing the hadith about not imitating others and ignoring the hadith about the 73 sects lol
@RehanShaikh-zo2le jeez what did we christians do to you
1) that is a hadith
2) the authentic part is that the muslims will divide into 72 sects
3) The part with contention is the part that they are all in hell except one.
Assume all the statements are authentic. The hadith states that this saved sect is the "Jama'a", or main body of Muslims.
Not some fringe esoteric group like Isma'ilis
Not heretics like Ahmadia/Qadiyanis
Not radicals like the khawarij (closest modern equivilant is modern day IZIZ)
Or deviants like the Jahmis
Or the extreme grave worshiping sufis
He also said in another hadith "God's hand is with the Jama'a (main body of Muslims)", and indicated in many other hadiths the importance of not deviating from the main body of Muslims.
As long as you are upon the pure, prophetic methodology of sunni Islam, as long as you don't differ in fundamentals of creed (oneness of Allah, Allah not manifesting in creation) you will ve saved
For more info:
islamqa.info/en/answers/90112/who-are-the-saved-group
www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/107122/eternity-in-hellfire-for-the-72-deviant-sects
islamqa.info/en/answers/129109/is-following-the-four-madhhabs-included-in-the-hadith-about-the-73-sects
@@Orthosaur7532
Catholic here.. Good video guys..
Appreciate it MrMonchis!
@@MuslimMindsUSShias have a distinct belief of God though
they adhere to Divine Simplicity (a Catholic belief too to be fair) and has a Trinitarian inspired belief such as the belief of the Essence, ilm Allah (knowledge of God), the Soul where creation comes from.
although the notion of the Divine Simplicity held by shi'is are similar to Christian Catholic "energia theology" in comparison to Shi'ite "sifa theology"
that they're distinct from the unknown essence of God and created wholly that creation may identify God through them.
this is also why the shiites can say the imams are with the attributes of God, and same with Christ (though the shiites believe imams are persons on their own, but we believe the humanity of Christ is united to the divine person, hence it is Divine and the person is attributed with attributes of which God is identical to, such as way and truth, and love (Christ is not a human person, the union of the person which is Divine and the flesh isn't to say God changed)
and we also believe Christ' person isn't created, and the attributes attributed to the person is by His nature
whilst Shi'is believe the persons of the imams definitely are created but by the sifa inherited to them became what they are (basically nestorianism)
@@SlaveofGod777so shiaism is like a catholic-esque version of Islam?
This video is done very well, as an Orthodox. Really explains thing well, especially fkr those who are interested in differences in Islam or simply want to learn more about the religion.
Thank you
Glad you liked it and it clarifies Islam for you Orthosaur! Be sure to subscribe and like the video, more coming!
-Hamza
Sunni ❌
Shia❌
Muslim ✅
💯💯💯💯
Now I really want to see y'all and Redeemed Zoomer collaborate on something
That would be cool, maybe one day it’ll happen 😏
-Hamza
Oh yes!!
2 Corinthians 6:14
@@bigboineptune9567 How ironic and cowardly
@@blackblack1167 How?
All Islamic denominations explained in 10 minutes from the Sunni perspective..
Multiple people who are Shia have said this is a fair video 🫢👀
-Hamza
@@MuslimMindsUS Disagree
Shia perspective is not valid anyway, not authentic
-Rohaib
@@MuslimMindsUS This is what I was talking about
@@MuslimMindsUS what?
Proud to be a Muslim from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦
one correction, the work tassawuf has many meanings in arabic.
Some tasawwuf (sufism) is bida'h and some is praiseworthy.
Even sunni muslims engage in tasawwuf to an extent where the understanding of tasawwuf is to have a deeper connection with allah and to enhance your remembarance of allah transcending the physical world.
Deobandis and barelwis espicially.
Also, the ash'ari and maturidii school of aqeedah are almost the same with a few minor differences which even some kalam scholars hold that they are just semantically different.
No drugs please, only Quran and sunnah.
@@ozone2126 no umer, Abu bakr, utman or aisha please, only Ahlul bayt
@@Rizvi-2 only if the rafidha stop hurting themself
@@rohat6427 only if the sunnis stop following the Sunnah of umer pla
@@Rizvi-2 what is the sunnah of umer?
Really great video guys, super interesting. Just a question, there wasn’t also a third sect called ibadism?
I wish you had talked more about Ibadism and Quran-only Islam.
Haha we can’t go too in depth, gotta keep it simple and engaging. Maybe in the future though 👀- Hamza
Besides, Quran only and Ibadis are considered heretical, not technically denominations or sects. They are not commonly known or associated as a type of Islam such as ahmadis by the masses. They are more independent Islamic self-associating groups.
-Rohaib
Ibadi’s are the Theological descendants of the Khwarij.
@@MuslimMindsUSnow I know why bektashism isn’t here thanks!
I just wanna know more about bektashism because it is a very different sect
@@MuslimMindsUS
For your kind info, Ibadis are Muslims, not Heretics.
However Ahmadis, Nation of Islam and also pure Quranists are considered Heretics.
@ 22 April 2024
# 5:59 PM
Nice video boys! It's like the Redeemed Zoomer video about Christian Denominations!
I'd like to add the the Sufi whirling practice is specific to the Mevlevi order of Sufism. Orders of Sufism, or Tariqa, is defined as the path to God or Haqq, i.e: Connecting to the divine. Most orders follow the same fundementals of Islam anyways. The differences would be in how they do their hadras/dhikrs. Some do whirling, some just chant astagfiullah, la illaha illah la over and over, some just do it in silence. Depends. It would also be incorrect to call Sufism a sect... It's more like a practice within Islam or dimension for the lack of better term, trying to connect to Allah on a deep spiritual level. Most Sufis are Sunnis.
nicely explained
Islam is one religion with no sects. There will be 73 sects but only the true one is saved. The true one that follows the Quran and Sunnah and three righteous generations. Madahib are not denominations or sects. All four madahib are haqq. As for theology there is only one theology that all madahib and the three righteous generations followed. Islam should not be understood through the reason of the Greek Philosophers. Allahu3alam.
“Muhammed drank water standing up so i should do the same”
@@coda5153 Rasoolullah most of the time drank sitting down so we should do the same. However he drank stand up so it is not haram. But it is better to sit down. What is your point here?
@@user-kc4rh6wn6u Correction. All madhabs aren’t haqq in the sense that every single ruling within these madhabs is a green light and you can pick and choose. The madhabs are generally correct, but some rulings are wrong within a particular madhab, as scholars are humans and get things wrong. An example is Hanafis saying one doesn’t need a guardian, which goes against a clear Hadith.
Read what the prophet (pbuh)'s will was,he said "I left in you that if you take guidance in you won't be lost,Allah's book and my household,they won't be separated"
This is in sahih Bukhari and you can search it
asharu and maturidi is NOT greek philosophy. man wahabis are crazy
4:30 You could've named Ghadir Khumm my brothers.
Maybe we will explain shiaism further in a separate video Insha Allah 👍
@@MuslimMindsUS Thank you, Jazakallah Khair, this is how uniting the Ummah is done.
@@MuslimMindsUS This guy had time to explain Mu’tazilis (an EXTINCT SCHOOL OF THOUGHT) but not Ghadir khumm 💀 What a joke
@@NaqiAliyeaaa let’s unite ❤❤💕☺️🥰 and then when the day of JUDGEMENT comes, shia will cursed me out for not telling them the truth huh.. yea no.
Fr bro just ignored the whole reason shia Islam exists💀
I am irreligious but I have a deep respect for Islam (frankly, more than any other religion). Thank you for making such informative and eye opening videos about your religion. ❤
Hey KingAlton, thanks for your appreciation and support for our video and channel! Glad you liked the video 😁
-Hamza
My best Muslim friend has told me that Sufism isn't really a denomination itself but more of a "Thought" than a denomination. He's described himself as a "Hanafi-Sufi", and basically follows what the Ottoman Empire followed.
My parents grew up in middle east as muslims but they moved after the war so, I grew up in the church and thought that was the whole religion just going to church every Sunday and eventually stopped going and started to do my own thing. But I wanted to find the purpose of life because I knew everything we worked for would pass away. So I started to look into all the religions to see if christianity was even really the ultimate truth. Later on opened up the Bible and saw the Jesus people talked about was completely different from what was in the Bible. I started to draw closer to the higher power and had a supernatural encounter with him and I felt the most love and peace and was truly indescribable and out of this world, and nothing i've ever felt from then on and never will tbf will come close to that experience, but I was shocked because I wasn't expecting this encounter, so I went up to my balcony and everything looked brand new like it was the first time seeing the nature when I looked outside. Almost like a new born and it was like it was so detailed . Every time I used to go outside it looked so boring and mundane and natural but this time that all changed, and I’m here to tell you it’s about a relationship not religion and he is real and did die on the cross for you willingly and thinks you as the only person and was thinking of you while dying.
what does that have to do with the video btw nice bait too
Akhi that is not the picture of ibn abd al wahhab rahimullah. Cameras didnt exist back then. If am not mistaken this is his brother
Another brother pointed this out to us, our editor accidentally added this, we will correct this Insha Allah
Zaydiyya do not do any of the things it is said "shia" do, but we do deny the twelver doctrine of an infallible Imam, and the doctrine that Imamate can be passed down.
The most authentic opinion in the Zaydi school is that the Sunni hadiths can be acted upon.
To be clear we do not believe in a "line" of Imams as no human can absolutely declare someone obligatory to follow. The Imams are chosen by shura, like at the vent of saqifah.
Great Video, I learned so much about Islam!
There are only Muslims, not sunni or shia
Epic video, its like UsefulCharts video but more simple and easier to understand. Will be subscribing ❤
Glad you liked it!
If Redeemed Zoomer left Calvinism and became Muslim:
😂
This was an informative and balanced video but there are a few things I would like to point out.
1.Mutazillites were their own sect not a Sunni creed. Both the early Asharis and Atharis used to refute them and Imam Ahmad (Rahimahullah) was tortured for opposing their view that the Quran was created and not the Speech of Allah (during the Mihna).
2. Not all Atharis were literalists, many of the traditional and early Atharis considered the wordings of the divine attributes to be Mutashabihat (meaning their true meaning was only known to Allah).
3.The image you used for the Barelvis were actually Turks, many Barelvis have opposition to musical instruments and the whirling practices.
Many Deobandis also belong to Sufi orders as well (like the Naqshandis,Qadiris,Chishti and Suhrawardiyya).
You will usually only find both of these groups amongst South Asians though.
I get you couldn’t cover all sect but there were a few other sects which existed (at least historically) such as the Karramiyah (who believed Allah was made out of body parts,sat down on the Arsh and physically came down the Heavens at night and believed the universe was eternal), as well as the Jahmimiyyah (who believed Allah was literally everywhere and had many similarities to the Mutazillites).
There were also the Murji’ah along with the Qadiriyah (the Qadiriyah used to reject Destiny and claim that calamities do not come from Allah but only good does which is why they were referred to as the Magians of the Ummah).
There also some Shia subjects like the Nusayris (who call themselves “Alawites”) whose beliefs are in line with the early Shia Ghulat and Batiniyyah. They fall into Shirk (polytheism) due to them believing Imam Ali (Rahimahullah) was the incarnation of Allah.
There were some other Shia subsects like the Qarmatians/seveners.
Very informative, Jazak Allah khair!
Alhamdulillah Proud to be Sunni Hanafi Barelvi Muslim and also follow Sufi Order
Wouldn't recommend this video to non-Muslims as it's heavily Sunni biased, like systematically providing counter-arguments for shia beliefs.
Yea because it’s clearly a false belief. Everyone stays or accepts the Sunni paradigm while people leave Shi’ism. It goes against sound reason and the fitarh.
@@ozone2126 Then title the video "a criticism of Shia beliefs" or something.
I know plenty who left Sunnism and became Shia-I myself left Sunnism and converted Mu'tazilism...
There are many sunnis who left sunni Islam for shia even scholars, what's your point lmao
Great video!
This right here. This is fire 🔥!
Redeemd Muslims 😳
🤣
Oh yes. Let’s believe in a religion that’s 300 years after Jesus, advocates for a 100% man 100% god, Hercules person, a triune but one god being, a dying man god being, and has a corrupt book… yeah, NO! P.S. Jesus was born in Palestine, which means he wasn’t some white-skinned, blue-eyed guy who waved around an American flag.
Excellent and a much needed video ❤
Thanks!
Great video, very informative!
Thank you!
Thank you for the video! I am a Christian but I am interested in Islam culture and history, even though I don't believe it is true. Peace and God bless!
great video but you should have added druze and alawites
Quick advice, brothers. Just like how you criticized the Nation of Islam and others, it would have been wise to criticize Asharis, Shias, and the rest too. Also, in the video it almost seem like you guys were differentiating Atharism and Salafism, yet they’re the same thing. p.s No ill intent.
We noticed this too brother actually after the fact, we were too middle ground sounding.
Khair Insha Allah, this vid will be more so informative and we will probably make follow-up videos break these down further bithnillah
Please react to the speech given by Swami Vivekanand in 1893 at Chicago, USA
Great video! Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Assalamu Alaikom, very good video Allahuma Barik, but I had a question, is it a must to choose a school of aqeedah or can i just believe in Allah point blank period, for example with the issue of Allah having a hand. The Atharis say "Allah has a hand unlike ours and in a way that befits his majesty" and asharis say "Allah does not have a hand and this is a metaphor to his power", now although both ideas are plausible am I as a layman allowed to choose neither and say "I believe in Allah and his hand in whatever way he meant it whether it is literal or metaphorical because he knows best"?
Also hypothetically, if someone was to choose the "wrong" aqeedah, will they still be considered a muslim on the day of judgement?
Im looking forward to anyones feedback.
Salafis say he has a hand that befits him, Atharis say what you say, it's called Tafwidh al Ma'ana "We leave the meaning to Allah SWT" is the view of Ahmad bin Hanbal and many other prominent atharis.
Asha'aris also say the same as the atharis, it's just New Asharis and Maturidis that say it is a metaphor.
As for hellfire and aqidah, all of the 3 are valid except the salafi aqidah, but if the person follows any of them when they aren't a scholar they won't be judged.
@@apexinn Waseem, don't listen to this guy; he might be on drugs or something. Instead, "Dus Dawah" is a good channel that teaches the correct creed, which is Salafi/Atharism. P.S. Use the tools Allah gave you, like sound reasoning and your Fitrah. When you do, you'll come to realize Salafism is true because we advocate nothing but Quran, sunnah and sahaba.
@@ozone2126 Salafism is not the correct creed.
All Asharis Dont say its a metaphor for power. You have a misunderstanding.
Most Asharis Say its better not to delve in these matters while affirming Allah is not like creation(official position), Even refraining from translating "Yad" as Hand, like the salafis.
Some later asharis did interpretation of it as power, to prevent Tajsim(Likening of God to creation).
Asharis say Allah doesnt have a physical hand like humans, because thats what hand translates to.Allah is not a body since bodies are created, The Quran says There is no likeness to God and hes unique.
Best thing for us laymen is, Hold Surah Ikhlas for Aqeedah, since its very clear, and Was the Answer to "Who is God that you worship?"
Yes believe in Allah, his Books, his messengers and the 12 imams for guidance
5:23
I wish you could just explain the domninations without your personal opinion on them saying there is no proof and what not,which makes this video pretty biased against shia honestly
You didn't mention ismailis (aga Khanis), who consider themselves to be the second largest "Shia sect".
They don't have islamic salah. They only do their own dua, which isn't done facing Kaba, and it is 3 per day, combined into 2. Once in the morning and two combined in the evening.
It is a secretive cult-like sect centred around the idolisation of "the Aga Khan", to whom they are obliged to give a large % of their income every month.
Some consider this to be a Shia sect, others consider it to be a financial scam.
Check out Salim Lalani's TH-cam channel. He is a former Aga Khan devotee who has exposed their practices, which he sees as abusive and exploitative.
What's your opinion on Ismailism?
Because we had a lot to cover in ten minutes we only brushed on this sect barely, maybe one day in the future we can expose it further.
Jazak Allah khair for sharing
Informative video 👏
Thanks Yaznoor glad you enjoyed 😁
-Hamza
Very good breakdown
Thanks Noor glad you liked it 😁
-Hamza
quick question why are these denominations of islam in your eyes not the same as the Christian denominations? i don't think either effect the validity of the religions but wanted to hear your thoughts on it . Also what school are you guys?
From what we learned and know about Christianity, there are huge differing beliefs between Catholics and Protestants that are too huge to ignore regarding the direct creed of Christianity. All of islams “denominations” are not differing on that nature, the foundation of the faith is secure and unshakable, there are just differences on small legal and ritual matters. To our understanding, the differences in Christian denominations are larger and some Christian groups call other Christians heretics and stuff like that. Let me know if that makes sense and interested to hear your thoughts!
We are Sunnis and don’t specifically hold to one group.
- Hamza
@@MuslimMindsUShey Hamza! Thanks for the response. I understand your point of view but I would disagree with that statement since those who are actually educated/ in scholar work of Christianity will agree while there are differences the three of prots orthodox and catholic agree on the fundamental essentials (found in the nicene creed) i will agree though on a general pop level as in the average Protestant calling each other heretical that is definitely an issue that arises a lot from bad teachings (especially in America lol) . This is a topic i looked into alot so id like to think i have a decent grasp on it but thank u for ur response regardless!. Another question if you guys don’t hold to any school of thought in particular do you go to certain schools of thought depending on the situation at hand or do you just hold to what the authentic hadith and Quran say and not mind everything else? Thanks! Great video as always
JazakAllah Khairan
"Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the FINAL messenger", what about the group called Ahmadiyya? That group can be found in India and Pakistan if i'm not mistaken.
Heretical group, consider them Mormons of the Islamic world. Beliefs are far too removed from Islam.
-Rohaib
assalamu alaikum,
may Allah accept your efforts but this is too simplistic of an explanation with some mistake my brothers. one could easily be misled by this video. i would recommend taking the video down and remaking it or leaving this topic till you're more knowledgeable. better safe than sorry. some feedback please read it carefully:
- in mentioning shias visiting shrines you neglected to mention they commit shirk (the greatest sin) by making duas to their saints. you also neglected to mention twelvers/raafidah curse the companions and doubt the Quran's preservation. if one has these beliefs ofcourse it takes one out of the fold of Islam
- you called schools of fiqh and schools of aqidah both "schools of thought". this is quite confusing and might make one assume they're further sub categories... (they're not). call them schools of fiqh and schools of aqidah (or the best english equivalent)
- you call followers of Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab "Wahhabis". this is an exonym (a namecalling label) my brothers. there's no such sect that calls themselves "wahhabi"
- you often cannot pronounce words properly (no offense). such as calling ahl-e-hadith ahle "E" hadith. it's pronounced more like "eh". or pronouncing shia matam (strong t) as ma-th-am
- you mentioned kharijites alongside Ahmadis. this might make it seem like they're out of the fold of Islam. they're not
An-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
“The view of ash-Shafi'i and the majority of his fellow scholars is that the Khawarij are not to be described as disbelievers; this also applies to the Qadariyyah and the majority of the Mu‘tazilah and other groups that follow whims and desires.” (Sharh Muslim, 7/160)
I advise you to avoid the fake neutral approach of non Muslim channels and be proud of saying the truth even if it seems "biased"
may Allah bless you
The problem in the video is that many of the things that your attributing to certain schools are in their counterparts, you should of done more research
But thank you for your efforts.
Assalamualaikum Akhi, we attempted to highlight what those schools were most known for. Other school may definitely have had those same points, however some are known more for a speciality than others
@@MuslimMindsUS وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته that’s understandable in some points, but things like ijmaa and qiyas and shafii madhab.. not really something special to them, qiyas is more emphasized in hanafi fiqh and everyone except dhahiri school use it a lot, also ijmaa is used by all school so not really a shafii thing.
4:46
What you said is really your own belief and opinion of the Sunni sect we Shia beleives that the imams are chosen from Allah (aswt) and the prophet (pbuh) DID mention who the next caliphate will be,read ghadir khumm hadith.
Do a video about Sufi or Tasawwuf!
Good video 🙌🏽
Thank you!! 😊
Btw what denomination you choose
bro striking onesself is absolute haram
according to sunnis not shias
Why is the sound so weird?
I like how there was litte bias in the video good summary
Thanks for noticing and glad you enjoyed
- Hamza
I saw your video on the Christian denominations and I would like to see your guys honest opinion and react to this song please
( O Come to the Altar - Elevation Worship )
Thank-you and hope you had a good Ramadan
8:32 How do you guys feel when people use salafi/wahabi as a pejorative term?
People who use it as such are typically ignorant of its true meaning. Every true Muslim would technically believe they are salafi as we try to emulate the way of the Salaf. - The early Muslims who lived with and followed the teachings of the prophet Muhammad ﷺ
However, the term has garnered some negative attention due to extreme individuals who use the term to describe themselves.
Wahhabism, in practice is too strict and ignores reason and practicality (obviously within the Islamic paradigm)
-Rohaib
You mean Wahhabism, salafism is accepted by the scholars, but even when I’m call a wahabi, it honestly feels like I’m doing something right.
4:30
Don't just explain why you don't support their interpretation, provide *Why* they believe Ali should have been selected.
Shia believe Ali was chosen because of the Bey3a at Ghdier Qum.
And the story about Abu Bakr being instructed by the Prophet to Lead Prayer goes against the fact that he instructed Abu Bakr to leave Medinah on an expedition.
We avoided going too deep into the disagreements for the sake of keeping the video short. Maybe in a future video. We highlighted two important elements, the prophet never directly appointed a successor, and on his death bed he chose Abu Bakr radiallahuan to lead the prayer
@@MuslimMindsUS
You are just proving your bias.
Instead of providing a brief insight into the schools of Islam, you highlight why this group must surely be in the wrong.
Either be impartial and mention the arguments of both, or be brief and mention neither.
I think in a future video you should highlight the existence of a Shia hadith corpus; and different interpretations of shared haditb
Very cool
Thanks TexanNative!
The 4 Sunni Schools of thought Imams studies under Imam Jafar as-Sadiq (AS) why didn't you mention that?
Length and time
He can not go into detail. I agree he was biased [ i am shia]
I left a comment on this video. It goes into detail about all things which Muslim minds are interested which goes against what We believe... You can find it and read it, it will surely please you
Yea bro, they follow the students but not the teacher😅
The Hanbali madhab isn't strict, it's actually more lenient than other madaahib in some aspects.
Interested, in what aspects are hanbalis more lenient?
@@MuslimMindsUS
1. You can do istijmaar instead of istinjaa
2. istinjaa does not need to be done immediately
3. man's awrah is up to knees & not including them
4. the condition for mas-h is that the type of sock must be such that the colour of skin isn't seen
5. only school that allows men to wipe over khimar during wudhu (also men over turban depending on conditions)
6. touching a non-mahram doesn't break wudhu (opposed to shafi'is)
7. fatihah isn't obligatory to recite for the one being led by an imam
8. woman (even non-mahram) can pray next to imam as long as not touching
9. jumu'ah can be prayed at duha (before zenith)
10. jumu'ah can be prayed in the desert area
11. when eid and jumuah are on the same day, you're exempt from jumu'ah as long as you pray eid prayer
12. eid prayer is only fard kifaya
13. many concessions for prayer to be combined
14. unlike hanafis, hanbalis allow for prayers to be combined while travelling
15. witr can be only 1 rak'ah
16. one may just pray fatiha during obligatory prayers
17. ^ non-obligatory too, obviously
18. women can lead other women in salah as opposed to malikis
19. women can pray in the masjid, opposed to latter-day hanafis
20. tawarih is 20 rak'ahs, as opposed to malikis who require 36
21. gold that women use as jewellery is exempt from zakah
22. only one upright person is needed to see the moon for the entering of ramadan
23. opposed to malikis, someone who mistakenly eats/drinks while fasting doesn't need to make up his day
24. no kaffarah is needed for the one who breaks fast in ramadan, except in the instance of sexual intercourse
25. only vomiting purposely breaks the fast
26. hajj tamattu' is preferrable
27. sacrificing animal on eid al-adha' is sunnah & not wajib
28. a woman whose marriage ended in khula only has one month of iddah
29. the khula is not considered a divorce and the couple can remarry after a khula
@@MuslimMindsUS THIER more lenient in music than for example the hanafis (still think it’s haram btw)
@@AGENTOfMKA No all four madahib strictly forbid all music except the duff only on eid and weddings
All 4 schools are from ahlus Sunnah alhamdulilah. For a laymen like me I found hanbali the easiest because it is very straightforward
thanks for actually being respectful towards shias : )
also a few mistakes: shias do pray 5 times a day. also matham is a cultural practice
btw, alevis and alawites aren't Muslims as alawites worship Ali and alevis don't even pray.
Pretty sure the teaching in Ahmadiyya far outshines the mainstream understandings of true Islam. It does NOT make up fairytale narration out of the Quran or the Hadith. It follows Quran much closely thanks to their Prophet (Their Masih and Mahdi) which is subject of opposition and is considered “boring” compared to mainstream ideas that Jesus is somehow still alive and will return and fight dajjal (a person) together with Imam Mahdi. Cool story for a novel, still fictional. Similar to… when the Jews was waiting for their Messiah, but got Jesus instead. And there is a list of stuff that makes way more sense than mainstream understanding. Just closely read 5:116-117. If Isa(as) comes back the Quran has to be abrogated. Isa(as) cannot be saying those words of the Quran if he actually comes back. But some muslims ullama believe Quran can be abrogated. This is an invention, and a helpful tool to support their narratives
Muslim Minds is a typical example of one of the 72 sects. They prefer to create their own definition of a Muslim rather than use the definition present in Quran and Ahadtih.
Goofy ah ah… ain’t nobody accepting your religion bro. Thank Allah for Islam.
@@ozone2126 search for “fasting growing islamic sect in the world”
@@ozone2126 search for " fastest growing islamic sect"
@@ozone2126 google "fastest growing islamic sect"
This was actually a very clear and easy to understand video thank you for explaining
mashaalllah
very clear pro-sunni video but overall pretty good
That's what every shia say 🙄
@@HalalKebabMuncher it is a baseless sect. If not provide the proof then
@@That_dawg420 wuts ur prove? your comment is baseless lifeless and stupidity of climax.
He said he was pro-sunni because Muslims mind didn't use Shia hadith interpretation to give its overview. He only used Sunni interpretation. Secondly the video needs to be short and concise and his views were mostly solely based upon what sunni believed no shia comment.
I do not hate sunni, I have great sunni friends. We both are Muslims with minor differences and believe in core beliefs of Islam. How about you replace your keyterm *baseless* with something more pleasant :D
Yes correct
You guys are fire
Thank you Noor!
Clearly, this video was created with a sunni preference. Although, not like I can blame you lol. Still, the attempts for neutrality were appreciated.
I'm Shia Muslim but ehh it is acceptable
Thanks ArabtheWorld 😁
Yeah a few things here and there, but nonetheless it’s a good video, much better than blatant takfir of everything and anything 😂
Mu'tazila are not sunni and that is the opinion of all classical scholars of ahlus sunnah wal jamaah
very cool!
Thanks Mascthetic! 😁
Alhamdulilah for being Athari
A lot of theee are in crusader kings 3 i never knew what thry stood for
Lol glad you understand now 🤣
@MuslimMindsUS oh and as a black man I'm sorry some of us have twisted your faith. The stuff that comes black nationalist and hoteps is awful
Why don't all Islam denominations accept the Quran as being a creation (not eternal), wouldnt it fit better with the concept of Tawheed? If the Quran is uncreated, that would seem like the Quran itself is divine no?
Qur'an is Allah's word which is eternal as its an attribute of Allah like His mercy, knowledge, wisdom, and power
Alhamdulillah Proud to be Sunni Hanafi Barelvi Muslim and also follow Sufi Order
Ooooor you can follow Quran and sunnah on the understanding of the salaf
@@ozone2126 Salafi is Devil Sect
8:45
There is no such thing as Wahhabism
Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab did not invent a new Religious doctrine , he was Hanbali and did not invent something called Wahhabism. He was only spreading Sunnism in Arabia and fighting Sufism.
Alhamdulillah Proud to be Sunni Hanafi Barelvi Muslim and also follow Sufi Order
Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab hated the Hanbali madhab after he realized they believed in tawassul and did not believe in destroying Jannatul Baqi. Leave the cult of Anthropomorphism.
@@gharib6458
You are delusional. Fights a doctrine that doesn't exist to begin with
Literally no one claims to be Wahhabi Because there is no such thing as Wahhabism!!
@@1batarfi Wahabi is a Devil Sect
Deobandi vs Barelvi ❤️🔥❤️🔥
Alhamdulillah Proud to be Sunni Hanafi Barelvi Muslim and also follow Sufi Order ❤❤❤
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Missing ibadis lol
🔥🔥
Sakeena 🫡🫡
React more to Protestantism give us more respect
5:10 you forgot to mention that shia believe imam Mahdi will be killed by a woman with a beard💀
this is like %1
🙏🏽🙏🏽
😊😊
Thanks Saabreen!!
-Hamza
Just one thing: Shias (especially twelvers) are not considered muslim
Reason?
@@mouhmmedadil9782 cursing the Sahabah takes you out of the fold of islam
@@muhammadabdurahman3121 what about the sahaba that cursed each other?
@@destroylonely428 they literally mended relationship and there so much Daleel for that. And let’s say they didn’t, the prophet Muhammad (SAWA) literally confirmed that the sahabah have Allah on their side and that Allah was pleased with them. There are literally 10 sahabah that are confirmed jannah and from them, 4 are cursed by the rawafidh. Even when Uthman (RA) was getting attacked, Imam Ali (AS) asked his followers to defend him. Wallahi if the original Shia of Ali were alive today, they would be from Ahlul Sunnah
where in the Quran does it say "whoever curses the sahaba is a kafir"?
The shias do not believe Imam Ali (as) should have been elected as the leader of the ummah, we believe he was chosen by God, as the Prophet DID INFACT EXPLICITLY state this during Ghadeer, atleast do correct research
نكتة علم المثليين غير لائقة الله يصلحك
W wahabis
remember that sects are harram.
Most of the groups covered aren’t really “sects” as we understand in English or describing other faiths, just minor differences in rituals that’s do not effect the fundamentals
That’s why the main distinction we included is shiaism as it moves past just standard differences of opinions
@@MuslimMindsUS same building blocks just different interpretation... I agree with you
@MuslimMindsUS Thats objectively false.
Shiaites (atleast the twelfth ones, which are the majority) hit themselves with chains on the begining to the end of muharram. they also pray on rocks. combine their prayers and their hijri calender is somehow a day off.
some of the sufis dance in the mosques. and sing to "allah allah" while wobbling their heads. they believe wudu gives them special powers or something.
the ahmadiyya have a whole new prophet somehow DESPITE the quran clearly stating that there wont be a new prophet after prophet muhammad s.a.w
call them whatever you want. theres no shia muslim or sunni muslim or whatever muslim...theres only muslim and kaffir. there is no gray area. i would highly suggest you educate yourself on the dangers of the rawafidh and the khawarij lest you may be preyed as the ignorant
@@hixark4502 As a 12er, I will say.... You have absolutely 0 understanding of Shia Islam. You are replying heavily in regards of stereotypes bud... That chain thing is only down by small small minority like 5% of Shai. [It's cultural] Its fr banned in Iran-
Also, what do you mean by worshipping on stone? It's made out of clay, when we prostate we keep our heads on Earth [soil] not something that is human-made or organic...
Listening to you makes me wonder may Allah guide you out of the hatred that is consuming you
@@hixark4502 *Educate yourself* I would say to you rather you saying to Muslim minds.... Do you know Khawarji were the enemies of Shia? They murdered Imam Ali [as]
Khawarji don't exist today, the only one who exist is the off shoot branch Ibadi in Oman......
Khawajis are Muslims extremist who believe in violence..... If I rem correctly that's suppose to be ISIS who call themselves Sunni while kill and murd Muslims [mostly Shia].....
As a Shia I don't believe ISIS should represent Sunnis, they are not. I have sunni friends and they are best of ppl....
Christ is Lord
Allah is Lord
@@MuslimMindsUS Philippians 2:5-7 John 8:58 John 14:4-7 Revelation 22-13
I like you guys and iv been watching your videos from time to time. Your are pretty knowledgeable for your age and as someone about same age it is nice to see, but these "im right, you are wrong" leads nowhere. I know that one of your main reasons not to believe in Bible is belief that bible is corrupted. But please reconsider that it isnt just written text ,there were thousands of martyrs from first centuries. How is it possible all of them couldnt remember two simple sentences (about Christ divinity) but nevertheless they laid their lives for them! Are all of them insane? This is just one of many problems with that theory but almost no one talks about this, especially western preachers who forget or simply ignore first 15 or even more centuries of the Church... It is so sad, please take this in consideration. Wish you all the best and may the Lord finish his work with you :)
@@picoroja what about YHWH? Did Jesus replace YHWH?
@@AlQuranAlKareem-tf9lpI bet they don’t even know they history of those letters. Hint: 2nd temple destroyed and the letters (Yode, Hay, Vave, Hay) or YHWH were left. And the Jews didn’t say the word because they thought the pronunciation of the word for God was lost. So to be respectful to god they just said Elohim.
Sunnis are upon deviance
🧐
@@MuslimMindsUS they divided into sects each following a path more ignorant than the other and rejected the order of the prophet
Twelver Shias follow Quran and Ahlulbeit as the prophet ordered
Following Ahlulbeit = Following Prophet Muhammad = Following Allah
Following Abu Hanifa # Following Ibn Hanbal # Following Shafi'e # Following Malek
By the way , Ibn Hanbal sent Takfir upon Abu hanifa and celebrated his death
See how much deviant they are
@@MuslimMindsUS they divided into sects each following a path more ignor/ant than the other and rejected the order of the prophet
Twelver Shias follow Quran and Ahlulbeit as the prophet ordered
Following Ahlulbeit = Following Prophet Muhammad = Following Allah
Following Abu Hanifa # Following Ibn Hanbal # Following Shafi'e # Following Malek
By the way , Ibn Hanbal sent Ta/kf/ir upon Abu hanifa and celebrated his dea/th
See how much deviant they are
jesus is lord
___________________*(• each of this marks a paragraph. 3 • mean that disclaimer, 2 • mean it contains a hadith or reference)*____________________
•••This gonna be controversial *[nvm everything I say in this comment is controversial lol. btw remember I am Shia so my perspective is all according to Shi'ite. I wanna give recognition to what we think in this matter. I don't want to spread hate, I don't hate Sunni. I have great Sunni friends, all are great people. I hope one day this hatred ends and we all live in peace & harmony!! :D]*
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As a Shia, I would like to point out this video is great as per its length and does a good job of building the bases of Shi'ites. However, I would like to point out that your overview of Shi'ite was solely based upon the Sunni hadith, and no regard was taken from Shia hadith... It would have been great if you also put views over from shia hadith in part with Sunni ones in the Shia overview. [I understand you had to make the video as quick and short as possible but a mention of interpretation taken only taken from Sunni hadith would have been awesome! ]
Before I begin, I will say here is where the Muslim Minds overview is rejected by Shias [detailed overview is below]
1) 4:35
2) 4:44
3) 5:26
4) 5:48
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I will give oversight of what Shia believe and what our interpretation of hadith proves in the sect overview:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1) 4:35
••Hadithul Ghadir is one of the main evidence Shia use to prove the appointment of Imam Ali AS as caliph, among other things. In it, the prophet Pbuh mentions what is known as Hadith Al-Thaqalayn (hold on to Quran and Ahlul Bayt AS, to never go astray), as well as *"Whoever I am his maula, Ali is his Maula"*. And to top it off, Umar at the end of the speech came to Imam Ali AS to congratulate him. [Congragulate him for becoming Maula of faith] Now the word Maula has numerous meanings, *it can mean successor or friend*
•The entire incident is undisputed in its occurrence, it was attended by at least 70 thousand Muslims in broad daylight, and the news spread to all Sahaba. It was the last Hujjah of the prophet pbuh, he was bidding farewell to the Ummah, so everyone expected a major announcement.
•How Sunnis interpret it: "The prophet PBUH was only saying Imam Ali is his "friend", but not his successor".
•My point against this is that everyone knew that Imam Ali was a friend of the Holy Prophet. Not only he was married to his daughter but also Saad Ibn Abu Waqas recorded that the Messenger said to ‘Ali: "Are you not satisfied that you are to me like Aaron to Moses except that there shall be no prophethood after me?". All these factors proved his great relationship with the Holy Prophet so for the Prophet to say in front of 70000 people that Ali is his *friend* makes no sense unless he was there to regard Ali as his *successor*...
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
2) 4:44
•According to Shia narrations when AbuBakr saw the prophet was sick he went to the mosque to lead the prayer (without the prophet telling him to do so) but as soon as the prophet felt better and was informed that AbuBakr went to lead the prayer he got angry and ordered those around him (I think Imam Ali and Ibn Abbas) to help him and take him to the mosque and he was taken to the mosque while his feet were dragged on the ground (he couldn't walk by himself) when he reached the mosque AbuBakr was standing at the front so the prophet dragged him aside and he led the prayer while he was seated. Sunnis regard this as the Holy Prophet himself ordered Abu Bakr to lead the prayers. Remember, most of the Sunni narrations in this regard are from Aisha.
*Some clues show the story wasn't the way Sunnis tell it. For example:*
•• The prophet had ordered AbuBakr and Umar to attend the army of Usama which was camping outside of Medina and was ready to set off but they refused to obey the prophet until the prophet said: "May Allah curse those who refuse to attend the army of Usama".so AbuBakr shouldn't be present in Medina so that the prophet send him to lead the prayer in his stead.
•According to Sunnis, Prophet came to the mosque but didn't draw Abubakr away, rather he sat at the front and led AbuBakr's prayer and AbuBakr led the prayer of the people. That means there was one congregation prayer with two Imams! (sunnah.com/mishkat:1140)
•The following narration shows that AbuBakr was not leading the prayer rather he was just a Mukabbir (the person who says the Takbir loudly so people keep track of the prayer): sunnah.com/abudawud:606
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
3) 5:26
Here is a playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLCWrVR_uQBZTQbSyA3YdMpqM7Jj9a_KHe.html
Scroll and you will find a video titled *"Why occultation?". The video does a good job of explaining.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
4)5:48
*How can an Imam guide other people to the truth if they either don't know what it is or refuse to obey with it when they know it?*
•• The path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked your anger or of those who are astray. 1:7
•• And We made them Imams guiding by Our command. And We inspired to them the doing of good deeds, establishment of prayer, and giving of Zakah; and they were worshippers of Us. 21:73
•• And when Abraham was tried by his Lord by [His] commandments and the latter fulfilled them, He said: "Behold, I shall make thee a Imam of men. He [Abraham] asked: "And [wilt Thou make Imams] of my offspring as well? "[God] answered: "My covenant does not embrace the evildoers." 2:124
•• And of thy Lord blessings [of Imamate] proclaim it 93:11
••O you who believe! Obey God, and obey the Apostle and [obey] those from among you who have been entrusted with authority [the Imams]; and if you are at variance over any matter, refer it unto God and the Apostle, if you [truly] believe in God and the Last Day. This is the best [for you], and best in the end
•••*This is one of the frequently asked questions, here is a Reddit reply on this same question and it does a great job of explaining [Maybe too great :P]*
www.reddit.com/r/shia/comments/uyaoe4/i_have_some_questions_about_infallibility/?
www.reddit.com/r/shia/comments/stshnn/one_of_the_few_hadiths_which_explicitly_mentions/hx5sczb