Gotcha. Was unaware of the upgrade on the eagle. Most 210's were the turbo but you have gone big with this. Beautiful plane. We had a 182 rg and it was a neat plane but I sure wish we had your prop. Simply awesome. One super single engine. Much better than most people realize.
26 gallons an hour X $7.00 a gallon of JetA= $182 bucks an hour at 216 kts X 1.15 = 248 MPH, 2 hour round trip, $364 bucks. How much do you need to have in cash to live comforably and be able to maintain the TP210? I'd say at least be completely out of debt and have 3 million in cash and an income of about 80K a year. What say you all?
I think I would want to grab a few low mileage planes for parts... Good air frames with engines that were gone because of random parts failure... Strip out the Motors and keep them for parts... Also I would want to do a modern version of the Silver Eagle with a full glass panel for absolute minimization of engine operation issues... Also I would always fly it with a competent friend... I believe one should Fly like one Scuba Dives... Never Alone... There are Old Pilots, there are Bold Pilots... But there just are not many OLD... BOLD... Pilots.... The Alps Reach up to grab you real fast when a single like that has an Engine failure that can actually be righted... One to fly it and one to fix the problem... May I also suggest learning the Techniques that ATP Pilots do for these issues... Some days I feel a bit Old.... Some Days I feel a Bit Bold... But I make Sure I'm on Tera Firma when Both are a Happening thing...
Literally no one has said cost of ownership of an airplane is cheap. You can’t just compare everything in life to a dollar amount without taking in the value aspect of it, otherwise we’d all just eat bread and drink water.
The advantage of a silver eagle is that, aside from acquisition cost, its actually cheaper to operate than a piston P210. This is solely because the TSIO-520 they came with only had 1400hr TBO and the Allison is 3600. Yes the fuel burn is higher, but you climb at 2000fpm instead of 600 in the piston, you also dont have to step climb with the Allison. Typical flight plan for these is 25gph, but its more like 20 in reality.
TO/Landings were incredible. The views out the window is second to none. wonderful video. I hope you have a good maintenance schedule for that nose wheel suspension. Not sure it was designed for repeated rough field TO/Landings.
There is money and then there is money. But this is an amazing machine what is the range of This Plane? What a beautiful machine I wish everybody could afford one
NonyaBusiness! Actually, what AEROMAGNUM TV might be trying to say in limited form expressing, "nope" is that although the Silver Eagle does burn 'JetA' as opposed to its counterparts insistence of 'Avgas', the previously installed Continental consumed(s) 23 gph, while the 250B17F/2 450 shp that weighs half of what the reciprocating engine weighed pencils out to about 22 gph (+/-). (Fuel consumption (gph): @ 12,000 ft: 24.0, @ 17,500 ft: 22.7, @ 23,000 ft: 19.5) The transformation is nothing short of phenomenal and can only be truly realized behind the yoke. Believe me, it IS phenomenal! And the SE can take off AND land in minimal space, usually 600ft. for landing/ 700ft. TO over a 50ft obstacle. That is something the OEM reciprocating hulk-of-a-machine could never do, let alone consider taking off from this mountainside. FYI: Even the best reciprocating P210R could never make it out of this Locher grass strip. In simplistic terms, it could never be said that it is "poor bang for the buck". A comment like this might be in consideration of VLJ options. But given the mountainous strip angles and terrain, I am pretty sure even the best of the best comparable 'very light jet' would end up in the owners warehouse with great loss. So, "Best Bang" for the owners strip,,, well dig a little more for the Pilatus PC-12. So, nothing could be further than the truth ... and like Ferris Bueller said, "It is so choice, if you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up.
Isn't this a 210? When I used to fly with Civil Air Patrol as a search and rescue pilot I remember doing a search for one of these that crashed. It turned out that the pilot flew through cumulus clouds and the wings were ripped off. Must have been really horrible riding that plane all the way down without a wing. I have always thought that really slick look was weaker than a traditional construction with a wing strut.
I did not know the MU2 did not have ailerons? Are you sure, seems odd to me. I'm not an aeronautical engineer but it sure looks like the MU2 's high wing is really tied into the fuselage with a lot more structural integrity, it looks to me as a non expert that the 210 is tied into the fuselage at a very thin section of the fuselage. What do I know...
MU 2 has spoilers on top, Really check it out, extream wing loading, same as a 210 theres more than it looks like, there is an AD to have the spair inspection done, I've flown 210s and the are tough birds, MU 2 s are my favorite, noisy Garret's and buddy it's a get up and go Plane
Looking to buy a silver eagle.. Thank you for sharing quite Enjoyable..I owned a C210 long time ago…four sears not much of a pay load..nothing like this one.
Pilatus is a turbine without struts, tbm, Mitsubishi MU-2 ... whats your point here the 210 is a good airframe, its a different wing design it doesn't need struts
I'm with Jones here.......love Cessna but no strut no go for me.......my son was a CFI (now 737 driver) years ago and taught a guy to fly in the 210. All was well until one day over the Rockies at 20,000ft the wings came off and the whole family cratered.........I have time in 152-172-182 and they are all great, even hit some severe in the 182 and it came through without a ruffle.........struts good.......
-- It IS easy to do! I watched video yesterday of a Draco -- modified with 600 hp turbine -- totaled out on takeoff as the left wing dipped slightly -- 3 seconds into the takeoff roll -- about a half second from being airborne, and then it was all over ...over a million dollars worth of modifications all over the place! Way too much power!
Nice convertion, The turbine engines are more powerful and lighter than a piston engine, and you probably get a higher payload and a realy nice climbrate. However the airframe probaly has a VNE limitation so any rocket except for climb performance ? Probably not.
Spectacular video. Thank you. One question I do have is why so many P210 turbine aircraft including yours, does not have a full anti-ice/de-ice package on it given its altitude capability and performance and area you are flying in?
The probability of a turbine failure is essentially 0 (mean time between failures is on the order of hundreds of thousands of flight hours), based on what he showed in the video he was flying as high as he could under visual flight rules. To go higher than 18,000 feet would have required filing an instrument flight plan which comes with ATC hefty fees in Europe.
I had many of these radios in my prior panel, fun to see them still working in 2018. I see you never even launched the Argus, with it's 9 year old database. I even had the Argus and the Shadin fuel flow you have. I am curious about the VFR flight only placard: clearly that's appropriate for your home airport I'd think it would be useful for enroute or destination weather. Although, 30 GPH, 147 kts at altitude and what, 90 gallons without Flint tip tanks? You probably are not flying into many major weather systems in that distance. Fond memories for me and an outstanding package for the world you are enjoying. Very nice all around.
LOL idle fuel consumption rate during checks on the ground is 11.6 gallons per hour...an older Cessna 182 consumes 11.9 gph at 135 kts TAS! But you get what you guzzle for, piston will never be as reliable as a turbine despite the lower fuel rates.
Oh Boy! that engine start sound after fuel introduction is very very satisfying!
I have been in love with the 210 since high school and when I discovered the Silver Eagle, I was enamored.
All I know is this guy has done very well for himself and has shared with us his passion, thanks
Zz
Dude those two Landings I seen our excellent Landings! Oh my God you can't do it no better than that, soft soft touch down way to go. I'm Impressed.
This is my favorite airplane video on TH-cam. You just accomplish so much in this video. So well done.
This is one of my favorite aircraft because it's a 210 but with a turboprop and the 210 is already pretty cool
INCREDIBLE video!! Terrifying landing into valley! Fantastic airmanship!
Beastie turboprops! Just their sound is music to the ears. Beautiful video!
Perfect airframe for a turbine upgrade! Must be a joy to fly.
I love the turboprop. beautiful
Ah, the fruits of patience, hard work and higher education. What a beautiful aircraft! Well done.
Just love that startup sound
0:57 BEAUTIFUL sound
One of my all time favorites.
Classic Cessna Beautiful countryside with a relaxing view
Beautiful creation. Thank you for doing this.
Wow, i expected the wings to rip off on take off !! What a wonderful sound on startup.
Awesome, the one of my dream plane. Thanks for sharing 👍
What a sweet place you have there!
Such a beautiful sound.
Ammazing plane! Love the approach looks complicated...
Love Cessna!!! Thank you for the video!!!
Cool plane. Wild STC. The gear comes up pretty quick.
Man that thing is such a freaking hot rod!
This 210 is powerful ! Very Good ! Congratulations 😊😊😊👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Damn!!!! 2:06 That thing is loud as a rocket!! But absolutely beautiful plane! I checked it's a derivative of the 206, but w RG and w/o wing strut.
Its a p210 with an Allison turboprop
Gotcha. Was unaware of the upgrade on the eagle. Most 210's were the turbo but you have gone big with this. Beautiful plane. We had a 182 rg and it was a neat plane but I sure wish we had your prop. Simply awesome. One super single engine. Much better than most people realize.
Wow.........now that's power. 25 gph..
Two is what? Twice the fun or twice the trouble of twice the Maitnance. Lol turbine be fun tho
Danke für die immer wieder coolen Videos! Macht echt Spass!
Someone has some very
deeeeeeeeeeeep pockets!
Thousands of viewers began smiling when we heard the turbine winding up and igniting.
Now this is what I call a conversion - what a great thing!
The P-210 Silver 🦅 is the most powerful singer engine Turboprop that you will ever need and to operate out of a grass strip is incredible
That engine sure does sing a sweet sound.
Naw. I need a Pilatus PC-12, which, I believe, has operated out of the very grass strip in the video.
26 gallons an hour X $7.00 a gallon of JetA= $182 bucks an hour at 216 kts X 1.15 = 248 MPH, 2 hour round trip, $364 bucks.
How much do you need to have in cash to live comforably and be able to maintain the TP210? I'd say at least be completely out of debt and have 3 million in cash and an income of about 80K a year. What say you all?
I think I would want to grab a few low mileage planes for parts... Good air frames with engines that were gone because of random parts failure... Strip out the Motors and keep them for parts... Also I would want to do a modern version of the Silver Eagle with a full glass panel for absolute minimization of engine operation issues... Also I would always fly it with a competent friend... I believe one should Fly like one Scuba Dives... Never Alone... There are Old Pilots, there are Bold Pilots... But there just are not many OLD... BOLD... Pilots.... The Alps Reach up to grab you real fast when a single like that has an Engine failure that can actually be righted... One to fly it and one to fix the problem... May I also suggest learning the Techniques that ATP Pilots do for these issues... Some days I feel a bit Old.... Some Days I feel a Bit Bold... But I make Sure I'm on Tera Firma when Both are a Happening thing...
Literally no one has said cost of ownership of an airplane is cheap. You can’t just compare everything in life to a dollar amount without taking in the value aspect of it, otherwise we’d all just eat bread and drink water.
The advantage of a silver eagle is that, aside from acquisition cost, its actually cheaper to operate than a piston P210. This is solely because the TSIO-520 they came with only had 1400hr TBO and the Allison is 3600. Yes the fuel burn is higher, but you climb at 2000fpm instead of 600 in the piston, you also dont have to step climb with the Allison. Typical flight plan for these is 25gph, but its more like 20 in reality.
Anyone with a plane like this makes more than $80k a year most likely a lot more.
500K + is my guess.@@MattMorris481
TO/Landings were incredible. The views out the window is second to none. wonderful video. I hope you have a good maintenance schedule for that nose wheel suspension. Not sure it was designed for repeated rough field TO/Landings.
There is money and then there is money. But this is an amazing machine what is the range of This Plane? What a beautiful machine I wish everybody could afford one
I think it had a 1,000 nautical mile range!
what a fantastic sound...
I love that plane along with the Cessna 337
WOW! Fantastic plane and vid.
Increíble! Precioso todo.
Great job....AWESOME....and a joy to watch!👍
Fantastic flying..this is a beauty!
NonyaBusiness! Actually, what AEROMAGNUM TV might be trying to say in limited form expressing, "nope" is that although the Silver Eagle does burn 'JetA' as opposed to its counterparts insistence of 'Avgas', the previously installed Continental consumed(s) 23 gph, while the 250B17F/2 450 shp that weighs half of what the reciprocating engine weighed pencils out to about 22 gph (+/-). (Fuel consumption (gph): @ 12,000 ft: 24.0, @ 17,500 ft: 22.7, @ 23,000 ft: 19.5)
The transformation is nothing short of phenomenal and can only be truly realized behind the yoke. Believe me, it IS phenomenal! And the SE can take off AND land in minimal space, usually 600ft. for landing/ 700ft. TO over a 50ft obstacle. That is something the OEM reciprocating hulk-of-a-machine could never do, let alone consider taking off from this mountainside.
FYI: Even the best reciprocating P210R could never make it out of this Locher grass strip.
In simplistic terms, it could never be said that it is "poor bang for the buck". A comment like this might be in consideration of VLJ options. But given the mountainous strip angles and terrain, I am pretty sure even the best of the best comparable 'very light jet' would end up in the owners warehouse with great loss. So, "Best Bang" for the owners strip,,, well dig a little more for the Pilatus PC-12.
So, nothing could be further than the truth ... and like Ferris Bueller said, "It is so choice, if you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up.
Isn't this a 210? When I used to fly with Civil Air Patrol as a search and rescue pilot I remember doing a search for one of these that crashed. It turned out that the pilot flew through cumulus clouds and the wings were ripped off. Must have been really horrible riding that plane all the way down without a wing. I have always thought that really slick look was weaker than a traditional construction with a wing strut.
. . .but never strong enough to attempt to fly into a cumulus cloud.
ever looked at an MU 2 no struts two engines, and OMG no alerions,
I did not know the MU2 did not have ailerons? Are you sure, seems odd to me.
I'm not an aeronautical engineer but it sure looks like the MU2 's high wing is really tied into the fuselage with a lot more structural integrity, it looks to me as a non expert that the 210 is tied into the fuselage at a very thin section of the fuselage. What do I know...
MU 2 has spoilers on top,
Really check it out, extream wing loading, same as a 210 theres more than it looks like, there is an AD to have the spair inspection done, I've flown 210s and the are tough birds, MU 2 s are my favorite, noisy Garret's and buddy it's a get up and go Plane
I agree the MU 2 is a beautiful airplane. Thanks for making me smarter.
Ok how.many turbines do you have stuffed in that hanger???
Makes me downright giddy to listen to that thing take off ! 🤣
Locher airfield seems to have the most exquisite airplanes
Hill down landing, unpaved, wet, impressive.
Very impressive piloting skills. It was also nerve-racking to watch.
Looking to buy a silver eagle..
Thank you for sharing quite
Enjoyable..I owned a C210 long time ago…four sears not much of a pay load..nothing like this one.
Watch that hot start
I definitely want one of these
I want one of these with full Garmin avionics
My god that is the machine
love the plane, one of the most rugged planes there are.
I had to come back and watch your starting procedures and what was your rotation speed and climb out power on takeoff?
Wahnsinns Bilder, vielen Dank fürs Video!
So you got to have an American registration number to operate this in Europe?
That plane is amazing. It just lacks the glass cockpit.
Lindo avião, um sonho... Parabéns e Boa Sorte em seus vôos. 👏👏🤝🇧🇷
Awesome plane, great airport,
This is great. Thanks for posting.
Man! what a beauty those Cantilever wings so clean no struts,I am jealous but, have FUNNNN.
Great vid! Great plane 18000 ft, 190 kts, 24 gal, 1400 useful, 950 miles, but the 5 blades is it a plus???
Wow. Serious climb performance.
Is that a Centurion with a turbine?
I love it and I'll be there always for the next flight out
Turbine with wings without struts.... hmmm.. I would be terrified to overspeed this thing, and I think it would be so easy to do.
Pilatus is a turbine without struts, tbm, Mitsubishi MU-2 ... whats your point here the 210 is a good airframe, its a different wing design it doesn't need struts
I'm with Jones here.......love Cessna but no strut no go for me.......my son was a CFI (now 737 driver) years ago and taught a guy to fly in the 210. All was well until one day over the Rockies at 20,000ft the wings came off and the whole family cratered.........I have time in 152-172-182 and they are all great, even hit some severe in the 182 and it came through without a ruffle.........struts good.......
-- It IS easy to do! I watched video yesterday of a Draco -- modified with 600 hp turbine -- totaled out on takeoff as the left wing dipped slightly -- 3 seconds into the takeoff roll -- about a half second from being airborne, and then it was all over ...over a million dollars worth of modifications all over the place! Way too much power!
@@camdraper4644 A 737 doesn't have struts either ...
@@Vulcancruiser It's called a cantilevered wing. The vast majority of aircraft do not have struts.
Why does it still have American registration?
No incentive to change it to local reg.the us has a lot of laws favourable to GA
Nice convertion, The turbine engines are more powerful and lighter than a piston engine, and you probably get a higher payload and a realy nice climbrate. However the airframe probaly has a VNE limitation so any rocket except for climb performance ? Probably not.
@sk.fox2011 You are simply . . . stupid
That landing was smooooth.
Very nicely done.
Dream plane. Great video!
Aeronave incrível com bela paisagem...
US registration on the tail, Germany registration on the wing and instrument panel?
Wow. You are one lucky man. Great video and thanks for sharing.
Are you kidding me? This is awesome!
How many knots?...how many gph?
In the FL's 205kts True at 25gph.
What a gorgeous airplane.
Spectacular video. Thank you. One question I do have is why so many P210 turbine aircraft including yours, does not have a full anti-ice/de-ice package on it given its altitude capability and performance and area you are flying in?
incredible scenery, but wouldn't you like to have a little more altitude over those mountains in case of an engine failure?
The probability of a turbine failure is essentially 0 (mean time between failures is on the order of hundreds of thousands of flight hours), based on what he showed in the video he was flying as high as he could under visual flight rules. To go higher than 18,000 feet would have required filing an instrument flight plan which comes with ATC hefty fees in Europe.
I like the model of the plane
I was checked out in a C-210.
Great plane.
Not like this one.
Nice plane. Thanks for sharing.
I had many of these radios in my prior panel, fun to see them still working in 2018. I see you never even launched the Argus, with it's 9 year old database. I even had the Argus and the Shadin fuel flow you have. I am curious about the VFR flight only placard: clearly that's appropriate for your home airport I'd think it would be useful for enroute or destination weather. Although, 30 GPH, 147 kts at altitude and what, 90 gallons without Flint tip tanks? You probably are not flying into many major weather systems in that distance. Fond memories for me and an outstanding package for the world you are enjoying. Very nice all around.
I love the sound of a gas turbine spooling up in the morning. It sounds like..... victory
How do the running costs and performance compare to something more mundane (but quick), like a Cirrus or Mooney?
And people think money is evil... Some know what its for!
LOL idle fuel consumption rate during checks on the ground is 11.6 gallons per hour...an older Cessna 182 consumes 11.9 gph at 135 kts TAS!
But you get what you guzzle for, piston will never be as reliable as a turbine despite the lower fuel rates.
Not familiar with this particular type, I was wondering if it was actually calibrated in litres per hour?
20- 25 gallons per hour is normal fuel burn @ cruise speeds for this aircraft.
I guess when compared in terms of hourly rates a 172 it AINT LOL. Kick the tires and light the fires lets get airborne.
Love these silver eagles.
Holy scheiße that's beautiful!
Cuanto Cuesta esa afaptacion en dólares?
Start up moving directly to high idle?
What kind of prop is on the front of this plane?
That would be a 5 blade prop
🤣
A noise generating prop.
Man this thing is bad ass. So much power in a small plane. Looks really fun to fly.
Nice airplane and mountains, thank you for this video.
Sure Sounds Good...
Not Short on POWER
awesome video. i love the view
So Beautiful... 😢😢😢
Jesus. Thing was at VNE still on the ground.
😂
The sound of the turbine is beautiful!