Indeed they do, leaving tools and step ladders inside brand new aircraft isn't great and airlines would rather they didn't do it. There's also been many other issues with the Dreamliner which is such a shame considering she's a nice looking aircraft with an absolutely beautiful wing design.
watching this video, part of me feels that Boeing should try and do something like this with the 737, a carbon composite single aisle plane, would help with fuel burn
The title of this video "From Start to Finish: How The Boeing 787 Is Made" is misleading. While the video discusses the history of this aircraft, it does not tell us "from start to finish", how it's really made. Where are the videos on the carbon composite fibers that are wrapped around the fuselage over and over again? Where does the wrapping start and how many turns does it take to complete it? As a pilot, I am interested in a true "start to finish" video on how this incredible plane is built.
The original ones were the 787-8 so your not wrong. This video was the the first time I ever Hurd of the E tho. I built them in Everett from 2011-2016. I’ve Hurd them called B787 or 787BBJ or 787-8. you never know, the sales and marketing did all kinds of things for this jet. I used to call it the Prius of the sky’s or the legacy guys called it the “plastic princess” it was an amazing plane. I’m happy I was a part of it.
@@adams.9029 It's good that you're proud of it, you should be mate, it's a fantastic aircraft and has, in my opinion, the most beautiful wing design on any aircraft since Concorde.
The 787 Dreamliner is one of the most popular widebody aircraft by Boeing and the money making machine airliner in the aviation industry and one of those reasons is fuel cost.
@@ndlben7129 787 is overrated regarding passenger experience. I flew 787 and a350 on the same day with the same airline. A350 was a much better experience in the way of space, noise and seats.
Even though the A350 is the overall best looking modern airliner, the curved wing design on the Dreamliner is absolute stunning...... a design classic in my opinion.
Always found it odd how they would take so many chances with this and not clean sheet a 737 replacement instead of trying to hang even bigger engines on it and masking it with software.
I think, with the all composite materials designs of the 787 and A350, they have paved the way for all new aircraft designs in the future for this market to be entirely composite with super fuel efficient engines.
Now that travel is spiking at unbelievable rate, we will see more demand for this efficient aircraft, hopefully for domestic US routes, I travel every week for work and every single flight is full.
If they decide to go ahead with the 797 that should learn from there last mistakes and create a twin aisle aircraft built for future. The 777 has been a success story for Boeing continue that playbook
I totally agree with 平和. Quality control and safety MUST be their number one priority. They must build an 848 (sorry, my naming for a new 747) based on carbon composite technology and twin engines. ☺
Don’t forget about Rolls Royce’s Trent 1000 engines having horrible issues in the early days. Don’t know if it is still going on and probably best for a different video.
How many planes does Boeing have to sell to recover its research and development costs? When is that break-even point likely to occur, given the pandemic and production issues? Is the Airbus A350 likely to reach its break-even point before Boeing, despite starting later? Enquiring minds want to know.
Great and informative video. Would be nice to have it for every single plane type. I wouldn't think that there are many parts coming from Japan and even Europe. Please make more vids on this topic with other planes. Thank you
so much time of the video (I would say half) was not about the production of the 787 or even not about the 787 at all. I think its unnecessary to talk about the origin of Airbus for example
Boeing is moving the 787 production out of renton so that it doesn't have to deal with the unions and save money. Being went from making the best planes to just making planes
The subcontracting of the production of large components may not be the most cost effective. However, the practice produced positive political and business outcomes. The number of "public" complaints by product customers and their governments appeared to be significantly less considering the number of hiccups and issues surrounding the 787. Complaints would have unintended consequences on executives and board members residing within a complaining company and/or country. Can't bite the hands when those hands are members of the same country clubs your hand belongs to.
Gradually production will return to normal, but not as absurd as before, the world undergoes both an economic and moral adjustment, paper money will disappear Physical phones and digital bank accounts will be our official currencies where we will make transfers of millions and billions, however we will no longer have the need to travel so much in the future and the market will adapt to reality, in another 15 years we will not have 2 pilots in the cockpit, we will only have 1 will be needed to manage the machine. Let's start soon the Jetsons era.
Very bad outsourcing plan. The original goal was to push through development cost onto the suppliers. The original plan was for Boeing to spend about 5 billion now it’s well over 30 billion. They seriously screwed that up.
How a 787 is made... it starts with burning polyacrylonitrile or rayon string to make carbon fiber filaments. Those filaments are wound up on spools and later used to make carbon fiber cloth. And then a lot more happens....
@@AnotherPointOfView944 In a nutshell, they were awere about the lithium-ion battery issues and ignored the advices of some important researchers about the application of this type of battery especially in an aircraft. Furthermore, the results of various tests were ignored too and they insist on that type even so. After the first incident, the Boeing said that the 787 was secure, but a few days later we had the second incident, but that time with an airborne plane in Japan, wich could end in a giant disaster... And to finalize, the FAA was imprudent about the security of the system and allow the Boeing to mantain the lithium-ion batteries even with the known problems... If you want to see more about, check the book "The Crash Detectives - Investigating the World's Most Mysterious Air Disasters". On part 4, the author goes a little deep into the case
I still don't trust any plane built in South Carolina. In my opinion Boeing screwed the pooch moving it to SC. They have so much talent in Washington and that's where it should be built. Just look at the Quality Control issues they have. No thanks, I'll fly on an Airbus if I have the option, and we usually do.
Why do you think it will fall out of the sky and break apart? I think you'll find the ones at SC will fly to Everette to then be delivered to the customer. Yes, we know Boeing screwed the pooch moving producti0on to SC. The problems are at both factories so the 787 cannot be better built there. I mean just look at what the quality control issues are getting fixed. Why no thanks? I think you'll fly on a delaminating a350 that will fall out of the sky? what happens if every airbus is full and you have to fly on a Boeing? just refuse to fly if that happens I guess!
There is nothing interesting about avaition in india as no commercial planes are made here and talking about airlines they are not such interesting and world class to be talked about
I feel like the dreamliner is a gamechanger, but it's not going to live as long and will probably be replaced by a different plane, depending on the market.
That is such urban legend BS. One guy, John Barnett, made these comments but now it's turned into "everyone that builds them". Not one fatality since the first commercial flight just about 10 years ago. Let me ask you this. How many Boeing 787 production workers have you spoke directly to that told you they "won't fly on it"? I'm guessing zero.
Yeah sure. I am a retired Boeing employee and worked on the 777, 747, 767 and the 787 before leaving. Lets see my last trip to the Philippines was just before the Pandemic and I rode on a 787 to Japan then the connecting flight was on a 767. The 787 was felt perfectly safe and much more comfortable then the 767. On returning to the states it was on a 777 to Japan then back on the 787 back to the states
And first improve ur English mate what is plan ? Its plane u should really sit at home because where ever u will work u will spread negativity and problems as ur English says it all about who the heck u r
The A350 could sound like the end of the honeymoon period of the 787. I've flown in both as a passenger with several airlines and while the 787 is a great aircraft, the A350 is streets ahead. It has every advantage of the Boeing and more besides.
@@ndlben7129 I think that the 777, but the 787-10 indeed could have a very much passenger, the only bad is it's short-range, perfect for replacing old 777-200, but its Boeing make a long version range of the 10, I am sure it would sell very well and make the competence with the a350-900
The common theme with these companies stay away from union shops in the north and go to the south where there is cheap labor and no unions. The people in the south never seem to get shit together
They need to make quality control/safety their number one priority.
Indeed they do, leaving tools and step ladders inside brand new aircraft isn't great and airlines would rather they didn't do it. There's also been many other issues with the Dreamliner which is such a shame considering she's a nice looking aircraft with an absolutely beautiful wing design.
sadly they went with mdd
The Dreamliner is an experience!
watching this video, part of me feels that Boeing should try and do something like this with the 737, a carbon composite single aisle plane, would help with fuel burn
Absolutely correct.
I think it's expensive though
Basically redesign the 737 MAX as a new plane
It is the future for airplanes.
All new designs will be carbon probably as they replace old designs.
That might be true
But it'll take at least 10 years to make that happens
Yes, they should
The title of this video "From Start to Finish: How The Boeing 787 Is Made" is misleading. While the video discusses the history of this aircraft, it does not tell us "from start to finish", how it's really made. Where are the videos on the carbon composite fibers that are wrapped around the fuselage over and over again? Where does the wrapping start and how many turns does it take to complete it? As a pilot, I am interested in a true "start to finish" video on how this incredible plane is built.
It's totally misleading. Propaganda video!!!
IM a fan of BOEING specially 787 ,737 and 777x they are amazing and superior planes
The E in 7E7 stood for Eight.
Also
Efficiency
It never stood for Eight lmao, it's just E for Ecology/Economy
The original ones were the 787-8 so your not wrong. This video was the the first time I ever Hurd of the E tho. I built them in Everett from 2011-2016. I’ve Hurd them called B787 or 787BBJ or 787-8. you never know, the sales and marketing did all kinds of things for this jet. I used to call it the Prius of the sky’s or the legacy guys called it the “plastic princess” it was an amazing plane. I’m happy I was a part of it.
@@adams.9029 It's good that you're proud of it, you should be mate, it's a fantastic aircraft and has, in my opinion, the most beautiful wing design on any aircraft since Concorde.
Graceful wings amazing..
The 787 Dreamliner is one of the most popular widebody aircraft by Boeing and the money making machine airliner in the aviation industry and one of those reasons is fuel cost.
I wonder how many planes Boeing have to sell to break even on the 32 Billion dollar development cost?
@@thehoundGOT it does not take away its popularity
@@ndlben7129 787 is overrated regarding passenger experience. I flew 787 and a350 on the same day with the same airline. A350 was a much better experience in the way of space, noise and seats.
@@uwemai1925 the 787 outsells the A350... (1500 orders vs 970 orders) If you want more space, buy a 19.5" Premium seat...
@@ndlben7129 i prefer the a350 for the reasons given.
Even though the A350 is the overall best looking modern airliner, the curved wing design on the Dreamliner is absolute stunning...... a design classic in my opinion.
Always found it odd how they would take so many chances with this and not clean sheet a 737 replacement instead of trying to hang even bigger engines on it and masking it with software.
0:58 the Boeing 777 first flew in 1994, not 1997
Nice video 👍
I think, with the all composite materials designs of the 787 and A350, they have paved the way for all new aircraft designs in the future for this market to be entirely composite with super fuel efficient engines.
A correction: the 777 first flew on June 12, 1994, and was introduced a year later on June 7, 1995 with United Airlines.
It's a minor component but important- the "movable trailing edge" control surfaces of the 787 are made in Melbourne Australia.
Now that travel is spiking at unbelievable rate, we will see more demand for this efficient aircraft, hopefully for domestic US routes, I travel every week for work and every single flight is full.
Can you also make a similar video on the A350?
No...
@@ndlben7129 why?
The wing fixed leading edge and wing movable leading edge are also manufactured by Spirit Aerosystems in the US.
There are some parts also built in UAE ALAIN and the company called Strata and located in Alain airport
If they decide to go ahead with the 797 that should learn from there last mistakes and create a twin aisle aircraft built for future. The 777 has been a success story for Boeing continue that playbook
It needs to compete with the A321 tho for it to be viable, therefore it needs to be a middle of the market aircraft
I totally agree with 平和. Quality control and safety MUST be their number one priority. They must build an 848 (sorry, my naming for a new 747) based on carbon composite technology and twin engines. ☺
I think the 787 will sell to pre pandemic numbers because its so efficient
787 It's the right size imho
@@ndlben7129 they just need a 787-10ER for the aging 777-200ER replacement and its bingo
Don’t forget about Rolls Royce’s Trent 1000 engines having horrible issues in the early days. Don’t know if it is still going on and probably best for a different video.
How many planes does Boeing have to sell to recover its research and development costs? When is that break-even point likely to occur, given the pandemic and production issues? Is the Airbus A350 likely to reach its break-even point before Boeing, despite starting later? Enquiring minds want to know.
Wow! I never knew this!
They need to get deliveries going again, there is still alot of demand for the 787.
777 was 1994 not 1997
Nice
Is it just me or does the nose of the 787 resemble the DE Havilland Comet?
Too many people commenting without sticking to the subject at hand. Focus.
Great and informative video. Would be nice to have it for every single plane type. I wouldn't think that there are many parts coming from Japan and even Europe. Please make more vids on this topic with other planes. Thank you
Same with airbus. It’s a globalized economy now
No mention of the battery issues?! 🤔
Well it kind of says in the title that this is about assembly, not the problems.
You don't have to mention everything in every video.
Old news, long solved, not relevant to the videos purpose.
I agree. It was a major problem that grounded the whole fleet. They should have mentioned it at least in passing.
Let's not forget the QC issues in SC.
so much time of the video (I would say half) was not about the production of the 787 or even not about the 787 at all. I think its unnecessary to talk about the origin of Airbus for example
Erm, the 777 first flew in 1994 and entered service in 1995, not 1997.
They probably meant the 777-300, which somehow was the last major widebody variant developed before the 787
Boeing is moving the 787 production out of renton so that it doesn't have to deal with the unions and save money. Being went from making the best planes to just making planes
787 production was never in Renton..... How about stating it correctly as Everett in the 40-26 building there.
@@mikeske9777 lol yeah you're right but the rest is true
Boeing is a compnay not a charity work
@@gleitsonSalles a company that cheaped out on safety to make a bigger profit and it came back to fuck them up in the end.
Man I'm from the states and I'm utterly confused if Charleston is NC or SC. Your say SC but label NC lol
Can we have a video like this on the a350 please
It’s a beautiful aircraft but it’s a shame to watch news over and over about its issues.
The subcontracting of the production of large components may not be the most cost effective. However, the practice produced positive political and business outcomes. The number of "public" complaints by product customers and their governments appeared to be significantly less considering the number of hiccups and issues surrounding the 787. Complaints would have unintended consequences on executives and board members residing within a complaining company and/or country. Can't bite the hands when those hands are members of the same country clubs your hand belongs to.
Gradually production will return to normal, but not as absurd as before, the world undergoes both an economic and moral adjustment, paper money will disappear Physical phones and digital bank accounts will be our official currencies where we will make transfers of millions and billions, however we will no longer have the need to travel so much in the future and the market will adapt to reality, in another 15 years we will not have 2 pilots in the cockpit, we will only have 1 will be needed to manage the machine. Let's start soon the Jetsons era.
0:56 *1994
Messy operation. Should of kept everything in Washington. Administration , engineers , labor force. Make for more reliable plane.
Just imagine the CEO of Boeing has a private Airbus A320 .....ಠ_ʖಠ
Now I need to research this.
Is this true? 🤨
Source.. would love for this to be true haha
@@Oskar0424 mate we shouldn't talk about others as our pm is literally flying in 777 and our country couldn't even build a commercial plane
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Dream lifter and first built 787 in my channel
Very bad outsourcing plan. The original goal was to push through development cost onto the suppliers. The original plan was for Boeing to spend about 5 billion now it’s well over 30 billion. They seriously screwed that up.
You forget to mention that there are some news about South Carolina plant about Quality Control.
Wrong. This was mentioned.
How a 787 is made... it starts with burning polyacrylonitrile or rayon string to make carbon fiber filaments. Those filaments are wound up on spools and later used to make carbon fiber cloth. And then a lot more happens....
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0:41 the 707 wasn’t a wide body aircraft. Single isle son!
He never said Wide Body
He just said successful
The 787 is amazing , but what they did with the batteries was bizarre
I know they had problems with batteries, but please explain further.... I am interested to know.
@@AnotherPointOfView944 In a nutshell, they were awere about the lithium-ion battery issues and ignored the advices of some important researchers about the application of this type of battery especially in an aircraft. Furthermore, the results of various tests were ignored too and they insist on that type even so.
After the first incident, the Boeing said that the 787 was secure, but a few days later we had the second incident, but that time with an airborne plane in Japan, wich could end in a giant disaster...
And to finalize, the FAA was imprudent about the security of the system and allow the Boeing to mantain the lithium-ion batteries even with the known problems...
If you want to see more about, check the book "The Crash Detectives - Investigating the World's Most Mysterious Air Disasters". On part 4, the author goes a little deep into the case
@@rafacosta_x_ Thanks for the update :-)
@@AnotherPointOfView944 Just a correction, actually it is in the part 3 of the book that I've mentioned
@@rafacosta_x_ Thank you for telling me. Much appreciated.
I still don't trust any plane built in South Carolina. In my opinion Boeing screwed the pooch moving it to SC. They have so much talent in Washington and that's where it should be built. Just look at the Quality Control issues they have. No thanks, I'll fly on an Airbus if I have the option, and we usually do.
Boeing cutting costs has never hurt anyo.... wait... nevermind
@@davidguy1555 Check their quality control issues.
Why do you think it will fall out of the sky and break apart? I think you'll find the ones at SC will fly to Everette to then be delivered to the customer. Yes, we know Boeing screwed the pooch moving producti0on to SC. The problems are at both factories so the 787 cannot be better built there. I mean just look at what the quality control issues are getting fixed. Why no thanks? I think you'll fly on a delaminating a350 that will fall out of the sky? what happens if every airbus is full and you have to fly on a Boeing? just refuse to fly if that happens I guess!
Sounds like you’re bitter
Union fanatic.
plz make a video on india🇮🇳
You mean how corrupt Air India is?
@@mirzaahmed6589 No. On India.
You mean Indiana or the Cleveland Indians?
There is nothing interesting about avaition in india as no commercial planes are made here and talking about airlines they are not such interesting and world class to be talked about
The 777 first flew in 1994, not 97, and entered service in 1995.
I think he means 777-200ER
He probably meant the 777-300 (non ER) has it technically was the last new major widebody development before the 787!
There are lots of errors in these programs
@@donaldstanfield8862 you joke ? The 777 program (non -X) was the most profitable aircraft ever
First view and comment for this amazing video ❤️❤️
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@@nishantkhincha481 lmao
I feel like the dreamliner is a gamechanger, but it's not going to live as long and will probably be replaced by a different plane, depending on the market.
The 787'S BUILT IN Evert Wash. Are good the ones maid in NC. Have problems, No one wants them.
Give them time.
The Boeing 707 is not a wide body.
Cheaply
The people who make these plan, won't fly on it. That's enough for how its made
That is such urban legend BS. One guy, John Barnett, made these comments but now it's turned into "everyone that builds them". Not one fatality since the first commercial flight just about 10 years ago. Let me ask you this. How many Boeing 787 production workers have you spoke directly to that told you they "won't fly on it"? I'm guessing zero.
Yeah sure. I am a retired Boeing employee and worked on the 777, 747, 767 and the 787 before leaving. Lets see my last trip to the Philippines was just before the Pandemic and I rode on a 787 to Japan then the connecting flight was on a 767. The 787 was felt perfectly safe and much more comfortable then the 767. On returning to the states it was on a 777 to Japan then back on the 787 back to the states
And first improve ur English mate what is plan ? Its plane u should really sit at home because where ever u will work u will spread negativity and problems as ur English says it all about who the heck u r
The A350 could sound like the end of the honeymoon period of the 787. I've flown in both as a passenger with several airlines and while the 787 is a great aircraft, the A350 is streets ahead. It has every advantage of the Boeing and more besides.
The 787 outsells the A350 by 550 aircraft ahead
Your statement is infounded
@@ndlben7129 I think that the 777, but the 787-10 indeed could have a very much passenger, the only bad is it's short-range, perfect for replacing old 777-200, but its Boeing make a long version range of the 10, I am sure it would sell very well and make the competence with the a350-900
@@sergiolaurencio7534 the 787-10ER (which you were talking about) will be an excellent replacement for the aging B777-200ER
The common theme with these companies stay away from union shops in the north and go to the south where there is cheap labor and no unions. The people in the south never seem to get shit together