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  • Hope you guys enjoy this new series that I’ve put together! Thank you all so much for watching!
    DISCLAIMER this series/video is NOT intended to be a deep dive. If you would like to learn more about the punk/hardcore subculture - I would highly recommend you check out the channel Punk Rock MBA - whom makes fantastic videos (way more detailed than this one) about any and everything punk related.
    / @thepunkrockmba
    SOURCES:
    • Ian Mckaye on nazi punks
    • Nardwuar vs. Henry Rol...
    www.wonc.org/alternage-retros...
    www.masterclass.com/articles/...
    flypaper.soundfly.com/hustle/...
    www.liveabout.com/hardcore-pu...
    www.deadkennedys.com/history.html
    www.altpress.com/orange-count...
    www.altpress.com/80s-los-ange...
    diyconspiracy.net/terms/nardc...
    www.vulture.com/2022/11/punk-...
    thewire.in/culture/punk-versu...
    legsville.com/the-l-a-p-d-vs-...
    tropicsofmeta.com/2018/07/30/...
    IG: / r1chmom

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  • @michaelwoodward5787
    @michaelwoodward5787 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +154

    Hardcore changed my life as a teen. Taught me to question everything.

    • @resist_rebel_revolt
      @resist_rebel_revolt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      im a teen and i have recently got into hc punk and its teaching me to turn the anger i have towards the system and how it treats ppl into compassion for those around me. i love hc so much and its helping me through the stuff im going thru rn

    • @cinnamonbiscuit727
      @cinnamonbiscuit727 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think it’s also good to control your anger. Some anger is good, but not to get upset at a lot of things (coming from another teen)

    • @richmom
      @richmom  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@resist_rebel_revolt good luck to you my friend, you'll pull through!! 🙇‍♂🙇‍♂

    • @infectedgoat7775
      @infectedgoat7775 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      “Now I know how it feels to fly
      My eyes are wide open and my soul's on fire
      All those years I was living a lie
      But last night Hardcore saved my life”
      -WISDOM IN CHAINS‘Chasing the Dragon’

    • @Oliviux78
      @Oliviux78 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@resist_rebel_revolt Yeah. The system (government) is definitely fucked right now. I can definitely see the rage at this point.

  • @gavinshickle1814
    @gavinshickle1814 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

    A friend of mine once said that hardcore taught him about compassion. This has stuck with me ever since.

    • @superunknown2812
      @superunknown2812 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting.

    • @andreaorofalo
      @andreaorofalo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jesus taught the same.

    • @knutsenneundorf116
      @knutsenneundorf116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think this quote is from Ian Mackaye: Hardcore is about fighting bullshit.

  • @notgoingdownwithoutafight1606
    @notgoingdownwithoutafight1606 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    I'm an old hardcore punk and still actively playing and writing music. It's amazing how many 20 somethings are into this stuff 40 years on

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      we'll make sure the flame keeps going on! it's too important to fall into obscurity! cheers from ATL brotha 🤝🤝

    • @Floral_Green
      @Floral_Green 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I’m a 27-year-old from the UK and it’s been my favourite kind of music/scene since the age of 16. Funny to think that an ex getting me a copy of ‘American Hardcore: A Tribal History’ completely sealed the trajectory of my tastes from thenceforth.
      Will always have a place in my heart.

    • @publicjeremynumberone
      @publicjeremynumberone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      10-15 years ago, if you went to a show, say Black Flag, Circle Jerks, etc, it was only us old dudes there soaking up the nostalgia. A couple weeks ago at a Circle Jerks show, at least 25% of the crowd were under 30. I was caught off guard

    • @gregc6072
      @gregc6072 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ….im 58, been listening/go to shows/been loyal to the scene since the late 80’s 💪🏻😎

    • @TheUnholyPosole
      @TheUnholyPosole 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@gregc6072...how, I've been in since the 90's, and all I see are larpers, playing dress up. Literally zero punk bands called out the Govt in 2021, and they won't even call out politics. It's all a joke. It's just entertainers, entertaining for money, pretending to be radical.

  • @leohirsch5056
    @leohirsch5056 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    my band is signing to alternative tentacles, so stoked to see the mention

    • @richmom
      @richmom  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      congratulations man! that's awesome for you guys!

    • @bYtealiEnSzen
      @bYtealiEnSzen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Congrats! What's the name of the band?

  • @akakizz
    @akakizz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +174

    No mention of Boston hardcore, SSD, DYS, Gang Green, Jerry’s Kids, and others! Otherwise, good little intro video to hc

    • @CamBoone
      @CamBoone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Jerry’s Kids is one of my favorite groups

    • @Captain_Calcium
      @Captain_Calcium 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Have you tried crying about it harder?

    • @Damon0mania
      @Damon0mania 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Watch it again for your SSD shot.

    • @eatassonthefirstdate
      @eatassonthefirstdate 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no doubt what Abt early FSU bands too? Mighty Mighty Boss tones had HC kids going to see them too back in the early/mid 90s.
      crazy as hell dude FSU went from being a hate-edge crew beating up kids who smoke cigs & stomping then robbing dope dealers, and NOW down in the southern states their chapters are the ones selling dope😅 and Elgin James is a Hollywood producer somehow?
      did he film/produce the Boston Beatdown DVD ????
      I'm sure you've seen that if ur from that scene bro.

    • @eatassonthefirstdate
      @eatassonthefirstdate 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Damon0maniaI caught that too lol

  • @mr_ozzio5095
    @mr_ozzio5095 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    The UK had hardcore as well from the late 70s, Discharge - GBH - Crass - The Varukers - Chaos UK - Napalm Death(81-83) Just to mention a few...
    Thatcher and Reagan were both pedalling the same rhetoric, the 1985 Brixton Riots in London are a perfect example!

    • @willieluncheonette5843
      @willieluncheonette5843 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      GBH, Crass, Varukers, Chaos UK are hardcore? To me they are pure punk

    • @AndersPack
      @AndersPack 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@willieluncheonette5843 Apart from Crass I agree with you, I'd call them HC personally, if you include GBH you should prob. include Exploited as HC and I doubt anyone claims they are. (easy way to determine would be if skins were allowed at the concert IMO.. :P )

    • @willieluncheonette5843
      @willieluncheonette5843 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AndersPack Plus those bands are not from the late 70's....they are from the 80. There were VERY few HC songs from the 70's. Black Flag and Ter Middle Class come to mind here in USA .

    • @AndersPack
      @AndersPack 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@willieluncheonette5843 Exploited were late 70's but, yeah there weren't really much HC around back then, Oi! also grew quite a lot bigger and faster in the UK (that scene o/c included more than just pure music - here in Sweden we got Asta Kask and similar'ish as the second wave)

    • @Aurora2097
      @Aurora2097 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Jup. GBH, Discharge, Exploited and the lot were and are Hc Punk. Very different from 77 punk rock! But sometime near the late 80ies the scene split up into gutter and peacock Punks who were into the Mohawk bands and skinheaded jocks who were into the "New School". Only Hardcore, not Punk anymore.They hated Punks.

  • @EncoreASMR
    @EncoreASMR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +124

    Metalheads will never admit it, but hardcore punk influenced metal heavily

    • @antondzajajurca7797
      @antondzajajurca7797 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      As an old metalhead I can say - nonesense . Crossover, thrash, death metal and grindcore are "purest" expression of metal (with of course classical heavy metal ) :)

    • @putridabomination
      @putridabomination 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      "they'll never admit it" yeah sure
      people who know their stuff are more than aware of the genres roots, and the subgenres/microgenres that are full of punk influence

    • @tracenewbolds2573
      @tracenewbolds2573 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      As a metalhead that has been in 2 punk bands that fell in love with hardcore punk and just punk rock altogether,I can say that punk rock is a huge influence on my playing and music tastes. The "don't just settle with some shit" and DIY attitude got me really far in life. I have had many metalhead friends or just friends that think my music is just noise tell me "that shit sucks" then I even used to bring people to shows my old band would have mostly illegal shows or basements etc and then hear em tell me "man that was awesome and fun" 😂

    • @Jmack7861
      @Jmack7861 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@antondzajajurca7797you listed two hxc genres when listing “purest expressions of metal”
      There’s no shame in admitting you like multiple genres or that other genres influenced your favorite genre.

    • @ulfhednar9304
      @ulfhednar9304 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Grindcore yes, but that's about it.

  • @tomayres534
    @tomayres534 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    heard ian mackaye in an interview recently talk about how the straight edge lyrics got massively misinterpreted and over done , like for example when he said ‘don’t drink don’t smoke don’t fuck’ he was really referencing excessive alcoholism/ smoking , and conquest sex rather than advocating for complete abstinence from those things and it was never an intention to start the straight edge movement

    • @tomayres534
      @tomayres534 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the interview was on Joe Puggs podcast, don’t have the name off the top of my head but definitely have a look if you’re interested it’s a great interview

    • @Aurora2097
      @Aurora2097 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Still sxe maybe saved my life. I got into too muxh self-destructive drinking. I needed a complete cut and sxe provided a safe space to do that.

    • @tomayres534
      @tomayres534 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Aurora2097absolutely, even tho it was an accidental movement , that doesn’t take away from the impact it had and especially the way it pulled a lot of people out of self destructive cycles. glad to hear it pulled you up dude

    • @0n344
      @0n344 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Always thought he was full of shit

  • @randomguyontheinternet7940
    @randomguyontheinternet7940 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Punk, Metal, Blues and Soul music fucking saved my life. Marvin Gaye, Nirvana, Minor Threat, The VU, Bam Bam, Son House and the Bad Brains debut brought me into a whole new world of introspection.
    Keep searching, always. Love yourself, and those around you. We're all in this together, living in hell.

  • @Cancel-Flip
    @Cancel-Flip 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Me and my friends had a shitty hardcore band back in high school. We only wrote 5 songs, never recorded anything, and only played 3 shows in our small town. it was so much fun

  • @grimetimes1
    @grimetimes1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I’m an Oxnard local and I’m glad to see NARDCORE getting some acknowledgment. It often gets overlooked when talking about Southern California HC. But the reach in the area is still felt to this day. When I knew it had a real impact is when Slayer decided to cover Dr. Know’s Mr. Freeze and put it on Undisputed Attitude album. The fact that a big thrash metal band was listening to a local HC band from Oxnard was awesome

    • @KManLeos
      @KManLeos 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ill Repute were dope!

  • @bYtealiEnSzen
    @bYtealiEnSzen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Overlooked bands in NYC: Kraut, The Nihilistics, No Thanks, False Prophets, The Mob, Heart Attack (Jesse Malin's band). The skinhead element arrived a little later in the NYC scene. In Chicago Articles of Faith was an early punk hardcore fusion band. Punk Rock Saves Lives is a great organization today available at many shows. Met them at the Muddy Roots festival last year: Great People. Back in the 80's Rock Against Reagan was a rock and rolling Yippie force to be reckoned with, shows from the flatbed truck!!!. Maximum Rock and Roll out of San Fran was a pivotal in the scene. They had independent hardcore punk reports from all over the country (and then world) that would write in and talk about the bands in their city zines. It was every band managers bible for trying to get contacts in a webless world. I went to NYC on the "eve" of the arrival of The Clash. The anticipation was palpable. It was the beatlemanía for punk rockers!

    • @IsmJism
      @IsmJism หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea - The Mob; Also - Big Apple: Rotten To The core comp

  • @shoeshane6494
    @shoeshane6494 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    The Germs needed to be mentioned. They were arguably the earliest hardcore punk band, and were highly influential to quintessential punk artists like Poison Idea.

    • @kx-2333
      @kx-2333 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Earliest?
      That would be
      the middle class then germs and
      bad brains with their black dots sessions

    • @IsmJism
      @IsmJism หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea - PIdea w/Tiny Tim gunshot on cover

  • @kai_plays_khomus
    @kai_plays_khomus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    HC saved my life. Twice.
    I expected a superficial cliché ridden Wikipedia entry summary when I clicked the thumbnail - and what I got instead was another realization of personal bias instead, something I thoroughly enjoy because HC made me strive for being a little less wrong in the evening than I had been in the morning.
    I don't think you could have made a better video about the origins of Hardcore within the given amount of time, not omitting the differences of the various local scenes while still not getting lost in specifics but putting your attention on the shared mindset, the underlying ethos making it one larger scene in spite of at times considerable differences on a local level.
    And though it carries a ton of aggression its underlying message is still empowering af - I don't even want to know how many suicides had been prevented because a desperate individual stumbled over Hatebreed's "Perseverance" LP..

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you so much!! long live HC & cheers from ATL!

  • @PUNKROCKGREENY
    @PUNKROCKGREENY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I found this interesting, well made and well paced. Good referencing in the description too. Similarly after the first wave in the UK, it was followed by a hardcore variation - Discharge for instance in 79. Great stuff. - I look forward to more.

  • @gorefist3907
    @gorefist3907 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this. As a 50 year old who experienced the CBGE NYHC scene back in the day I never gave thought as a child outside my area. This has been educational. Please keep this going.

  • @madzen112
    @madzen112 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That international network hidden from view was the thing that really impressed me when I first encountered hardcore, a true parallel universe.

  • @PatBrennan24
    @PatBrennan24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Would love to see a deeper dive into the history of each region. The historical/political connection to hardcore is fascinating to me. I feel like we should be taking notes... history is echoing to us from the Reagan era right now!

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would love to do a proper deep dive! Punk & hardcore is something that's shifted my life since a very young age, & once I have the proper budgeting, equipment & team I wouldn't mind throwing out a multi part miniseries going super deep into the history!!

  • @poorboy59
    @poorboy59 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    many thanks for this great video on HARDCORE PUNK...i'm italian and 65 years old...i search my old single of MIDDLE CLASS and i here... "WORLD UBER ALLES !"... Antonio

  • @MrMmnngghh
    @MrMmnngghh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Both the late seventies punk and early eighties hardcore style scenes are alive and well in Melbourne, Australia.
    Not only are they thriving, they're organising shows together as one scene.
    We played a DIY gig at an abandoned industrial facility with four bands half our age.
    Of course it depends at least a bit on where you or your scene happens to be on the globe.
    In our corner of the world, the current / next generation have got this.

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      super sick! I only know about a couple few modern punk acts from Australia like Amyl & The Sniffers & The Chats, do you have any other recommendations?

    • @danfurtado9158
      @danfurtado9158 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's lit bro I listened to a lotta hardcore screamo and then the scene bands I grew up too. In USA idk in central California probably never was a scebe.
      In the Us for the most part underground rap kinda fills that role for people younger than me but I still rock with it

    • @aotctd
      @aotctd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richmom They literally Cosplay us
      That is Imitation
      You all look like Wannabes

    • @aotctd
      @aotctd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They literally imitate
      No Own Identity
      Culture Vultures

    • @aotctd
      @aotctd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danfurtado9158 Stop attaching that Garbage to Our Cultures

  • @CamBoone
    @CamBoone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I love 80’s hardcore so much, I’m almost positive there will be a reprise of the style on TikTok or whatever the big social media is in the next 10 years

    • @sunnohh
      @sunnohh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Been into diy hardcore for 20 years and it’s never been bigger…

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      so true!! there's such a huge resurgence going on right now!

    • @clstile
      @clstile 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Texas seems to be the new hub for the younger generation of hardcore right now

    • @camdencantwell846
      @camdencantwell846 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’d say we’re at least partially there! bands like scowl and jivebomb seem to be inspired by negative approach pretty hard

    • @disbarge9862
      @disbarge9862 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Scowl was on tour with negative approach last summer so..

  • @hysterikole1
    @hysterikole1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm a hardcore kid from the '80's (yup, Im still a kid) . Decent vid. Brings back memories.

  • @ClaytonMacleod
    @ClaytonMacleod 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Barely mention DOA, which is where the term hardcore originated. (They played some shows just a few weeks back!)

    • @johnchedsey1306
      @johnchedsey1306 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Two of my BC friends are DOA's backing band now. It was a real highlight a couple years ago to have dinner with them and Joe Keithley, who is one of the coolest people ever.

    • @ClaytonMacleod
      @ClaytonMacleod 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnchedsey1306 Yeah, he's always pretty nice when I see them for their Vancouver Island shows. I recorded a few of them, which are on my channel somewhere.

    • @bYtealiEnSzen
      @bYtealiEnSzen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stret Marks were an early band from the Canada scene.

  • @richardbeatch6675
    @richardbeatch6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    No mention of D.O.A. (other than a passing reference)? WTF? Their debut album, Something Better Change, was recorded between 1977 and 1979, being released in early 1980. Clearly a hardcore release. The 1981 follow up, Hardcore '81, was one of, if not the first uses of "hardcore" in print and is, in many ways, a blueprint for much of the 80's hardcore that followed. They are credited by many, notably Rollins himself, as paving the way for the hardcore scene by pioneering the touring paradigm with flophouses and friendly basements across the continent.

  • @fuzzedout5324
    @fuzzedout5324 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Damned were initially signed to Stiff records, which were not a major record label

  • @Leshiy.
    @Leshiy. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for making this 🤘🤘

  • @soundofhistory_
    @soundofhistory_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video! I'm excited to see the rest of the series

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you very much!!

  • @durthed
    @durthed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The most hardcore appearing punks, are often the least punk rock in their music and philosophy. And playing in a hc band is 2 jobs: 1 - paying for instruments, rehearsal space, hard copies of releases and self promotion. 2 - playing the gigs themselves. This is what I've learned being 60 and breaking into the scene in '79. Nothing more satisfying exists! OI OI OI Cheers!!

  • @NicholasTanek
    @NicholasTanek 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well done. It was important that you wrapped it up stating how influential the scene was.

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you!!

  • @cornnflaek3271
    @cornnflaek3271 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Phenomenal video man!

    • @richmom
      @richmom  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you so much!!

  • @chrisbrown6642
    @chrisbrown6642 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This makes a lot of great points and is totally cool but it's socal heavy leaving out the midwest entirely and most of the rest of the east coast as well, besides DC and NY. All that aside, a decent introduction to those learning about the past

  • @Damon0mania
    @Damon0mania 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I appreciate the way ya mentioned something I've been saying for over 25 years now, and that's the world we live in today never would have come to exist if not for the initial DIY HC scenes of the early 80's. Grammas are "zine editors" with their cool handles on social media now. Everyone's an "entrepreneur" in advertising with less commitment than a kid stealing a stack of flyers from a copy shop back in the day to promote a show, demo, or other pop up community event. Not sayin' it's any good. In fact, it seems the divisiveness has only gotten worse since the good ol' days of Reagan Era Hardcore.
    Where did we all go so wrong lol we were punks duh🎉🎉🎉

  • @obnoxious-cackle
    @obnoxious-cackle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:47 not even four minutes in, but as someone born and raised in Ventura County I LOVE that you brought up Nardcore 🤘🏻

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      of course my brotha 🤝🤝

  • @colonelkilling2425
    @colonelkilling2425 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!

  • @mrnordyk1125
    @mrnordyk1125 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👍G Video
    Hungry for more about😁
    Part2 please.
    More about HC Punk subgenres and fusiongenres, from 80's too this times.
    And more about HC influences on independent scene. World wide.
    Thnx Mom😎

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no problem! can't wait to do more!!

    • @mrnordyk1125
      @mrnordyk1125 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richmom Awensome!
      👍🤞🏻😎

    • @aotctd
      @aotctd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Leave Our Cultures alone
      Just talk about the Imitators
      😁

  • @themichael3105
    @themichael3105 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is brilliant. Cheers

    • @richmom
      @richmom  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you so much!!

  • @sanchovilla1342
    @sanchovilla1342 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the San Diego scene? Don't leave us out. Acid Bath, Battalian of Saints, Manifest Destiny, Caustic Uproar and many many more

  • @livvyyyyyyyyyyy
    @livvyyyyyyyyyyy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think it’s really cool how punk influences were also really relevant in the 90s, with movements like grunge and riot grrl/women punk and alternative rock in general having heavy punk influences or almost creating a new wave of punk even though it overall sounded different from the OG hardcore from the 70s and 80s.

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      this is fax! the 90's deserves a whole video on its own!

    • @livvyyyyyyyyyyy
      @livvyyyyyyyyyyy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@richmom yes! Would love to see that

    • @aotctd
      @aotctd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Grunge Generation are the 80's alt generation

    • @aotctd
      @aotctd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Keep Up

    • @aotctd
      @aotctd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richmom I think all you Noobs need to stop acting like you are Our Generation or Cultures

  • @RyanGriswold-og7ey
    @RyanGriswold-og7ey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dont forget michigan. Some of the earliest punk and hardcore punk bands came from michigsn. The fix,the meatmen,the latin dogs,necros,and many more were doing hardcore punk as early as 78 and 79 as well.

  • @Jeremy-in2px
    @Jeremy-in2px 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The MidWest and Texas had scenes with bands that contributed to the movement of the 80's as well,Underground Punk & Metal were typically intertwined with skateboarding...Glory Daze...

  • @UkY71
    @UkY71 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Damn how do you only have 1k subs ?!! This was beautifully researched , well structured and nicely edited with your own style !!! Good job bro

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      one day we'll be big!!

    • @aotctd
      @aotctd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richmom You Imitators already are
      Hijacking People's Cultures You All Have Nothing To Do With
      You are the mainstream Cosplayers

  • @NSG27
    @NSG27 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You never mentioned The Germs, Screamers, Weirdos etc for the LA scene.

  • @stankosick4558
    @stankosick4558 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great 14 minute documentary! It was a great time to be alive. Hardcore (Punk in general) attracted me in 84 and my sister is still amazed that it is in my rotation 40 years later.
    However, if I may be permitted to add constructive criticism: the is premise is why hardcore was/is important so should spend less on time on the origins and particular bands and more how the music/scene demonstrated its inclusiveness, how indies could tour etc...

  • @viniciuslima-sn5un
    @viniciuslima-sn5un 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great video

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you!!

  • @liluf0728
    @liluf0728 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    NYHC for life ❤️ great video

  • @ramiromares7617
    @ramiromares7617 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Texas had its own. Queercore skate rock bands like Big Boys, the Dicks, Butthole Surfers, the Huns. Just to name a few. All had an influence on the bands mentioned in the video.

    • @richmom
      @richmom  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i know butthole surfers but I'll have to check out the rest!!

  • @FlukeStarb
    @FlukeStarb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    missed boston hc a little bit, still nice vid...

  • @LaurenOliviArt
    @LaurenOliviArt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video dude!! ❤ subscribed

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you so much!!

  • @danplaysguitar6706
    @danplaysguitar6706 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Greg Ginn professional waste man, I love it

  • @KattMurr
    @KattMurr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Troy Core was big in upstate New York...

    • @nicholaslafond6662
      @nicholaslafond6662 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was mostly in the '90s though.

  • @55tranquility
    @55tranquility 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love a bit of hardcore, i grew up skateboarding in the 80s and hardcore was linked particularly the DIY attitude. As a teen hardcore introduced me to anti racism, feminism, not eating animals etc and at the same time with a positive just get up and do it attitude. In the UK there was a kind of cross over with the leather and studs hardcore of Discharge, Napalm Death, Chaos UK etc and the more straight ahead hardcore of bands like The Stupids, False Face, No Way Out etc - i was into the second group. Although I also loved Crass and the SubHumans, it was the music inspired by Minor Threat, Black Flag and Fugazi that we loved.

  • @SBpunx-el2bw
    @SBpunx-el2bw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty cool video

  • @brak54321
    @brak54321 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video. Hardcore Punk is the most inspiring of genres. Keep it Rich Mom.

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you!!

    • @livvyyyyyyyyyyy
      @livvyyyyyyyyyyy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One of the main reasons I even learned or found out about punk and hardcore was because the 90s alternative rock I enjoy (mainly grunge and riot grrl) stemmed from punk (and some argue it was a form of punk in the decade). It seems pretty influential with how many alt rockers in the 90s seem to be inspired by punk rock, almost creating a new thing from it.

    • @aotctd
      @aotctd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Grunge Generation is 80's Alt Generation
      90s Was The Commercialisation

    • @aotctd
      @aotctd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also the Uploader Imitates Our styles
      Styles Also Tied To Our Parent's Cultures

  • @Squad21Photography
    @Squad21Photography 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should make a video highlighting Boston hardcore

  • @alejandrovasquez7871
    @alejandrovasquez7871 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No mention of Boston straight edge HC it's a crime. But in general good video

  • @sebastianHG__
    @sebastianHG__ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good shit man

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you brotha 🤝

  • @CarlosEduardo-mn4wj
    @CarlosEduardo-mn4wj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video man, spread the word

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you!!

    • @aotctd
      @aotctd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NO
      STOP ATTACHING TO OUR CULTURES
      TELL Y O U R O W N STORIES

  • @GotteHeavyMetalZamurai
    @GotteHeavyMetalZamurai 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Blast - Damned Flame / Hope is the first hardcore punk release. 1973

  • @mikefarrell4742
    @mikefarrell4742 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To the point. No frills…no fat. Efficient and interesting. Not to mention this is exactly how I recall it

  • @oso5812
    @oso5812 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a good video 👍

    • @richmom
      @richmom  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @JpBoudreaux
    @JpBoudreaux 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not a single mention. If Southern hardcore, which is a beast all its own.

  • @DiabeI1312
    @DiabeI1312 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    damn the editing is amazing

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you!!

  • @HANGIN_in_PERRYDISE
    @HANGIN_in_PERRYDISE 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    changed my life forever back in 1979
    60 now and still hardcore thru and thru

  • @FelonDeGeneres
    @FelonDeGeneres 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As someone who's been going to shows for almost twenty years, this was the greatest surface level representation of this history, and incredibly impressive that it achieves that in the length of this video (standard YT attention span length). I'd even venture to say this less then fifteen minute video does more justice for old Hardcore than the movie American Hardcore, which barely discusses the East Coast with way too much focus on the West Coast community, bands, and culture. Unfortunately, the NYHC scene would prove to be more conservative as opposed to their peers nearly everywhere else, and would adopt an "America first" attitude going into the 80s. Unfortunately other problematic matters would arise from NY going towards the 90s.

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thank you! it was incredibly tough to give equal space to the super deep history of the genre but I'm glad you enjoyed it!!

    • @IsmJism
      @IsmJism หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm from NYC - Tell me about it - No mention of A7 Club where Bad Brains & countless others got their start

    • @FelonDeGeneres
      @FelonDeGeneres หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IsmJism this was a brief once over. If this was a full on documentary, you wouldn't be wrong.

    • @noizaddikshin
      @noizaddikshin หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well, there were several sides to the New York scene. On one side there was Agnostic Front and Cro Mags, on the other there was the left leaning band like Heart Attack, False Prophets, Virus and perhaps in the middle there was Beastie Boys, Misguided, Crucial Truth, NY Mob. But, all those guys were friends, really. I saw all these bands except for Beasties and they were all great.

    • @FelonDeGeneres
      @FelonDeGeneres หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@noizaddikshin word, there was also the ABC no Rio scene, which was a response to the violence at CBGBs.

  • @Shadowbannddiscourse
    @Shadowbannddiscourse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool video but there are 2 places you forgot even when mentioning LA county that were important, Hollywood and East LA . Bands likenthe Germs and the Bags ( hollywood) and East LA ( Stains ) were important .Also , Out of Vogue was released in 78. Ita crazy between 78-79 many bands started playing faster middle Class Bad Brains , the Hates etc. . The Damned was playing fast from the get go .which I'm sure had an influence. It was all punk rock back then
    I dig your Rod Serling Twilight zone intro

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🙌🙌🙌

    • @aotctd
      @aotctd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richmom You weren't there

  • @jimstanley7786
    @jimstanley7786 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don't forget the UK hardcore scene!

    • @Gonyos
      @Gonyos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This need to be made

    • @noizaddikshin
      @noizaddikshin หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't think the UK had a hardcore scene until the end of the 1980s. Oi, Brit Punk, Anarcho Punk was the stuff that made the UK great in the early and mid-1980s. All, more-less, based on 1977 Punk. So may great UK bands in those years.

    • @Gonyos
      @Gonyos หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@noizaddikshin there were called UK82

  • @promongopusher7515
    @promongopusher7515 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    gr8 essay my fren

    • @richmom
      @richmom  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you very much 🤝

  • @HikingHalfdead
    @HikingHalfdead 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great music a lot of it grew up on it now looking back at systems and how they work I realize it was just a pressure release valve for impotent rage which accomplished nothing.

  • @user-mt2pb1uc5i
    @user-mt2pb1uc5i 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video . dude do more 😊

    • @richmom
      @richmom  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      more coming soon!!

    • @user-mt2pb1uc5i
      @user-mt2pb1uc5i 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richmom cant w8 . hardcore punker for life . greetings from greece . this genre of music it still is so influential all over the world

    • @richmom
      @richmom  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-mt2pb1uc5i in that case Γεια!! cheers from the States!

  • @BGTsoundandvision
    @BGTsoundandvision 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I know you can't get to them all but D.O.A. needs to be mentioned as they blazed the trail that Black Flag and others then followed. I had a front row view for all of it. I have a little problem with some of your conclusions being a little too simplistic but you are not making this video for me. Because I was living this life at the time for me "hardcore" was a much bigger tent than we seem to remember. Things like Husker Du, JG Ballard and Einstürzende Neubauten exist in tandem with so many other things like Survival Research Labs etc...

  • @nickp.2432
    @nickp.2432 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Crass # 1..

  • @mghc7
    @mghc7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 10:42 that is city gardens not LA

  • @y_magaming9798
    @y_magaming9798 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Without hardcore there's no extreme metal, no thrash, no black metal, no cross over, no grindcore nothing. I wouldn't exist without hardcore. A lot of us wouldn't be here without hardcore.

  • @castielsgranny4308
    @castielsgranny4308 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’d like a look at when Wendy O Williams was beaten & arrested by police in Milwaukee.

  • @danplaysguitar6706
    @danplaysguitar6706 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    id love to see a video on goth!

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      will do!

    • @aotctd
      @aotctd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why is your generation rehashing ALL of Our $hit ?
      You are like the regurgitation Generation ?

  • @tysonpowell9335
    @tysonpowell9335 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about The Stimulators being one of the originators of HC?

  • @herryhubert2706
    @herryhubert2706 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video overall, but I do not agree with some of the statements in the beginning. First early british punk didn't go down, the way you say it. And it were only the biggest names who got signed to major labels. Also because the were unaware. They had to make way to a whole new concept of making music. There were quite a few smaller labels in britain as well. Even in the Netherlands, where I come from, there were independent labels. Usually the relied on the biggers companies for distribution. I think the main difference between old european punk and us hardcore is the fact that european punk was mainly working class.
    For as far as bands go, you mainly mention the bigger hardcore bands as well. We had even more independent hardcore bands coming over from the US to Europe, for whom it was a real gamble to (financially) make it. Having those dudes staying in our house, it became one big international network. Bands like Toxic Reasons, Crucifix, MDC, to name a few were more important for the underground scene, than bigger acts like Dead Kennedys or Bad Brains.
    Also, to me the first american hardcore album was "Make a Record" by the Suicide Commandos. Eventho it still sounded a bit fragile, the record had the intensity and the characteristics of the later bigger hardcore scene.

  • @qazwer333
    @qazwer333 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun fact. A lot of southern california hardcore is traced back to the damned machine gun etiquette. You can hear it quite a bit in the bands that came after.

  • @yattmanntatt3360
    @yattmanntatt3360 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hard Core and D-Beat like Romeo and Juliet

  • @tristarperfecta1061
    @tristarperfecta1061 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shoutout to Fugazi and Jawbox from DC

  • @itsMrNoble
    @itsMrNoble 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing to make a video about hardcore and mention Ian Mackaye and to get his name wrong.

  • @brianburt7868
    @brianburt7868 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What happen to East Bay California...

  • @ronmelanson4657
    @ronmelanson4657 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A band called Death. Check it out, from Detroit. Arguably the first punk band. No one talks about these guys. A documentary called just that, A Band Called Death.

    • @richmom
      @richmom  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they deserve a whole video of their own

  • @maddog.mcewan
    @maddog.mcewan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    YES YES YES YES !!!!!

    • @maddog.mcewan
      @maddog.mcewan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      also pay homage to UK and European Hardcore - it was not all USA

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@maddog.mcewan this is fax! they deserve a whole video on their own!!

  • @korymelchior799
    @korymelchior799 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really enjoyed the video! especially touching on the political aspects of hardcore I think is super important. Would be cool to see another video on modern hardcore acts like drain, turnstile and drug church. I feel there's a new wave of hardcore that lots of people are just discovering

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this is true!! I'd love to do a video on the modern scene one day

    • @aotctd
      @aotctd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LoL The Culture Vultures
      How about you get your own Cultures
      And ideas ?
      Those people literally pretend to be Our Generation and Culture and How We Grew Up
      That is Culture Vulturism

  • @smakaap
    @smakaap 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doe Hét!

  • @bayareathrasher666
    @bayareathrasher666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here in the Bay Area, Punks and Metalheads are one tribe

    • @richmom
      @richmom  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      as it should be! i never understood the hatred between the two sides

    • @Uniblab9000
      @Uniblab9000 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@richmom Listen to song "Rock and Roll Bullshit" by Government Issue (1981) for the answer. There were very few metal bands in the early years of punk that passed the smell test.

  • @SpecimenX-9000
    @SpecimenX-9000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The world will always need punks to challenge the establishment. The alternative is too horrifying to imagine.

  • @kmfdm5
    @kmfdm5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Technically post punk rose from the ashes of punk. Goth was just a byproduct of that movement combined with a more progressive movement of the glam rock movement known as the neoromantic movement which included artists like Adam and the ants

  • @TraficoSonoroUndergroundd
    @TraficoSonoroUndergroundd 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    🏴‍☠️🏴

  • @garyrigby21
    @garyrigby21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    NYC was kinda slow to get into Hardcore! check out my fave New York Hardcore band called No Thanks. none of that "Hard" core Skinhead nonsense . full on early HC

  • @anthonyrita4366
    @anthonyrita4366 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Short to the point is the way to go.❤

  • @diamondsea5300
    @diamondsea5300 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HC is fun.

  • @devongiguere3721
    @devongiguere3721 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first time watching any of your videos personally and I really like the idea of this series. I would love if you did make them a bit longer. I feel like there is so much to learn

  • @CollapsingRealities
    @CollapsingRealities 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Ramones invented hardcore. Just listen to the '76-'77 live versions of 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue', 'I Don't Wanna Walk Around With You' or 'Loudmouth', to name a few. They're much faster than the studio versions. They're hardcore punk.

    • @Uniblab9000
      @Uniblab9000 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They were certainly loved by those of us in the hardcore scene, and I especially loved the live recordings, but I think you'd have been hard pressed to find anyone in those days who considered the Ramones' music hardcore punk.

  • @williamhiscock4992
    @williamhiscock4992 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't speak for everybody's experience. but I think this might be skewed in retrospective.
    Through late 70s 80s and probably until the early 90s hard-core wasn't a sub genre of punk. It just meant that you did it every day and you weren't who wore a polo shirt and khakis to school all week to pick on the freaks with your football friends, and then try to show up at the vert ramp with a black flag T-shirt on Saturday and go to the show.
    I seriously can't remember anybody using the word hard-core as a category prior to the straight edge youth movement.

    • @Uniblab9000
      @Uniblab9000 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As One Who Was There, I can attest to the use of "hardcore" as a proper noun for that particular branch of punk in the early 80s, and not just as an adjective.

  • @stayradbmx
    @stayradbmx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude, where’s Redd Kross?

    • @richmom
      @richmom  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      for sure in a future video!

  • @mramos1126
    @mramos1126 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like Reagan

  • @mourad2229
    @mourad2229 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The mini doc is cool. However, maybe due to the time limitation, there's few omissions. There's no mention of The Mob, Kraut, from the very early NYHC scene. There's also an NJ Hardcore scene with awesome bands Adrenaline O.D. & Autistic Youth. The political arena of early Hardcore was not only a disdain of the Reagan administration but most politicians democrat & republican. There was a weird melange of civil Libertarian, Anarchism or non conformist views. Remember most inner cities like NY, Boston, DC, Baltimore, SF, LA, Chicago, Detroit, Minneapolis were runned/ruined by democrats. Most the senate & house of representatives in the Reagan administration were democrats controlled by long term legacy democrat Tip O'Neil. It's somewhat correct to say the scene was open to all kinds of fringe outsider peoples but there was a lot of exclusionary behavior against people who didn't supposedly supposedly fit in what people precieved notions of what Punk/Hardcore should be. It got formulaic & predictably boring in creativity & behavior. That's why you got Emo-Post Hardcore & Crossover. Hardcore is alive & worldwide!

  • @darbyscommunity4864
    @darbyscommunity4864 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Didn’t even mention SF or anything?

    • @santangalo323
      @santangalo323 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who came from S.F?

    • @17388
      @17388 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i mean dead kennedys was technically mentioned