Theresa May’s warnings about Brexit ‘proved exactly right’ | Gavin Barwell
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- “You can't say her time as prime minister was a success because the job she had to do to get Brexit done, she wasn't able to do.”
Theresa May struggled to get Brexit done but her warnings about Boris Johnson’s plans were “proved exactly right”, her Downing Street chief of staff Lord Barwell tells #TimesRadio.
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She went from remainer to Brexit means brexit and a red white and blue brexit, stop rewriting history.
True.
She never believed in Brexit , just inherited it
What could she do as a tory once it had been taken over completely by the brexit cult? Give up her seat? What MP would ever do that?
Does anyone know what UK politicians actually believe in?
Seems like they can have a personal opinion completely opposite to their expressed opinion if that brings them money or power.
One could argue they hold no opinion at all, just follow the path that brings them the most profit.
Professional opportunitists
@@msimms-lp5qw
Well, she chose to accept the inheritance because No 10 was up for grabs and she decided it would be better to adopt a wrong agenda and govern poorly than not to govern at all.
She delegated the negotiations to David Davis who was no match for Barnier - and whenever a deadline was postponed, she and her clowns sighed in relief, kicked the can further down the road and were as unprepared as the new deadline approached.
Her legacy will be that
she didn't even bother to execute a bad agenda well...
May I just remind everyone Theresa May was the person in charge of the Brexit process.
She was the one who advocated leaving the single market and the customs Union.
Theresa May was also the architect of the hostile environment towards migrants.
She voted for all the policies who made us all poorer.
She’s one of the Johnson’s enablers and therefore as responsible as all the other.
Your attempt to clean up her act won’t work.
what are you talking about? there is no real rightwing in the UK, they basically betrayed their whole voter base.
@@PGHEngineer Brexit, specially this form of Brexit made the Uk and the EU poorer and weaker.
You’ve made an assumption on my nationality, which I won’t discuss, with someone who doesn’t have the guts to use their real name.
The colonial period is a stain on all countries who engaged in that abhorrent practice and yes I’m in favour of paying reparations and acknowledging the consequences of such cruelty.
Thanks. I am glad I am not the only one who remembers what a traitor she was, and an incompetant one at that. She only seems moderate and capable when we compare her to her even worse successors.
the tories have betrayed Brexit, I hope they collapse as a part and get replaced by a real rightwing party@@deannilvalli6579
Can you cite any examples of what she did or said that created a hostile environment toward immigrants? I assume you mean immigrants rather than migrants, which would include emigrants. The only hostility I witnessed was Remainers suggesting Brexiteers hated immigrants, despite many immigrants voting for Brexit.
Nonsense. She represents the politics of division, just as much as those who followed her.
All politics are divisive.
"It was an impossible job she has taken on..."
- If it was an impossible job for her she should not haven taken it on then!
- Also, it might not have been 'impossible' had she not put her party before her country. She allowed herself to be pressured by the ERG to do various things (call article 50 before having anything remotely resembling a viable plan//her red lines ...) in order to avoid a possible split of her party. This, ironically, utterly destroyed her party.
Immediately calling Article 50 long before it was necessary and before the country was prepared was an act of monumental stupidity on May's behalf.
Ask Teresa May to say “Hostile environment” without gagging
She was utterly useless.
Could you stop a runaway train? I don't think so, I definitely couldn't.
She will be viewed a bit like Dubya - shocking at the time, but somewhat redeemed after we saw what came next.
My severest criticism of May is that her overarching goal when pursuing Brexit was to protect the Tory party from the consequences of Brexit - over the best interests of the country.
She was however far better than her two successors who pursued entirely personal ambitions and a delusional fantasy respectively.
100% correxit!
@@bryangeake5826 I gexit what you're doing.
@@rossmurray6849 I think by the 2030's the Tory Party will reinvent itself as a Rejoin party, as that will be a route back to power. Shameless power seekers trhat they are.
Her Brexit Red Lines destroyed our futures, she put Party First and Country Second ( if that ! ).
Hyperbole. No-one's futures have been destroyed. Grow up.
"I've always said that immigration has been good for the country" - says the woman who brought in the hostile environment and caused untold suffering to an entire generation who helped get this country back on its feet after the war.
Also, please don't rewrite her history as a remainer - she was in one of the great offices of state during the referendum and was largely silent on the issue (barring one speech) - she got what she was angling for in the aftermath, but look at the country now...
She and the Torys are pro mass immigration. Look at the data.
1.4 million last year. Immigration is capitalism importing an OVER SUPPLY of labour in, which is a race to the bottom particularly for the working class. Oligarchs love immigration.
Capitalism will never invest in training, robotics or increase pay and conditions if it can just fly in labour. Back in the day the Left understood this even Bernie Sanders was anti immigration.
immigration is not a benefit, it's a cost for future generations to solve.
@@golagiswatchingyou2966 "immigration is not a benefit, it's a cost for future generations to solve."
It's for future generations to marry and meld. As always.
14.000 girls get ´´married´´ every year in the UK alone.@@emm_arr
there are no children being born, in part because of immigration.@@emm_arr
Is that the ex PM May who unilaterally decided we were leaving the SM and CU and thought triggering Article 50 before she had formulated a plan was a good idea? She is as responsible for the Brexit disaster as anyone else.
all the elites in the US are controled.
Explain the "disaster". How is your life different other than a longer queue when travelling to some EU countries?
the british goverment raised immigration as a means of punishing their own citizens for brexit@@A190xx
@@A190xx. Do you believe the earth is flat ?
@arron1906 Self inflicted long-term economic decline, people losing their jobs, as in Port Talbot, is a disaster for most of us. Of course, you may prefer getting poorer and losing out on massive opportunities, but most people don't.
Poor attempt of revisionist history here…
She was dreadful but compared with Sumac and Johnson a godsend.
they are all traitors.
The architect of all of our misery ....NEVER VOTE TORY
If your alternative is Labour, best not vote at all.
If she was "right" about her Brexit "warnings", that's simply makes her crimes of complicity even more monstrous and unpatriotic.
The only crime committed was by the 50% voters who voted to leave the EU. The crime would be called voluntary nationcide, the willful slaughter of a nation. There is no individual punishment for such a crime, the punishment is collective. The OT says "Fathers will eat unripe fruit and the teeth of their children will be dull". It is translated as "The sins of the Fathers shall be visited upon the Sons. In this case the "Fathers" will soon pass on, the "Sons" will suffer for a long time.
@@user-rt1rh9py4v Mostly agree; but Teresa May has a lot of responsibility too. Without her we would of probably had a second confirmatory vote... which Remain would've won.
@@user-rt1rh9py4v This "The crime would be called voluntary nationcide" is xenophobic claptrap! The UK has ben made up of waves of immigrations for thousands of years!!
@@MaxDamageTV Yes, and that would have been a democratic outcome; but Party before Country became her objective; having failed what 3 times, she should have had a Free Vote in Parlaiment on Remaining or Leaving the EU. That would have been a very democratic event; but it would have destroyed the Tory Party, and that was always going to be far more important than the UK's future!
@@bryangeake5826 Agreed.
This is what they do. Come in, bu**er everthing up and then leave.
Pigeon politics, fly in ,s**t all over it, fly out
Politicians have failed Brexit with their ineptitude.
Gavin Barwell, now Lord Barwell................ Why is this guy a Lord? Who cares what he says?
He's creepy,been in the Conservatives since leaving Uni
A more principled politician would have continued to oppose Brexit from the back benches. Theresa May succumbed to the lure of the highest office and sacrificed her previous position on the altar of personal ambition. She wasn't the only one, but let us not exaggerate the nobility of her motives. True though that what came after her, was much worse.
She was totally right and the Conservatives would NOT listen. THe resulting mess we have today with the UK being reduced by the day - not least by the ridiculous self indulgent scenes in the Commons. Maybe you'll find manners at some point?
She would say that wouldn't she? The woman who made absolutely sure Brexit would be a disaster should know what she's talking about.
I have absolutely no sympathy for May. Hostile environment, Windrush, the terrible way she treated Grenfell residents. Removed Freedom of Movement despite espousing immigration previously...she appeared to have no sympathy for anyone and I will be glad to see the back of her. Unfortunately we are left with the results of her duplicitous behaviour even facing down the Police service claiming increased funding while reducing numbers. Tories may we honour her most will be glad to see her go remembering the damage she has done!
So he's basically a simp for Teresa May. He looks like one.
And to all those who supported Brexit.
She ruined the police by cutting numbers so sharply.
I'm glad I've seen someone else say this. There's a lot of fawning coverage of her departure that appears to have completely forgotten. I remember when she was warned by the Police Federation, including a serving GMP inspector, what would happen as a result of austerity. She stood in front of them and accused them of "crying wolf". Now GMP are in special measures. A decade later Rory Stewart called her "brave" when he interviewed her in Leading for doing this. Utter rot. This is the only time I ever recall her showing any vertebrae whatsoever. She changed her mind on Brexit when it offered her the chance to take power, only to lack the force of character to unite her party behind her deal. The only reason she stood in front of a bunch of serving cops and accused them of lying is because they'd be sacked if they spoke back.
Policing in the UK is broken and she played a massive, massive part in this. She is inept, she just seems competent now because of the calibre of Tory government we've been left with.
And then BoJo tried to plug the shortfall with human trash.
@@ManGoatHamburgerone way of putting it. When you reduce the starting salary and then suddenly try to replace 20,000 cops, the standard of recruit is probably not going to be as good as those you've lost because anyone decent will be out earning more.
When are these politicians with their 'EU vision' going to apologise to the UK people for half a century of wasted alternative opportunities?
Just another Disgrace!!!!!!!
One doesn't have to be clairvoyant to predict what May predicted.
She should know since she spent most of her time sabotaging it.
She was a dreadful PM, Home Secretary and a typical tory MP - just dreadful.
Truly useless
Those such as May have brought about the complete collapse and destruction of a once genuine conservative party.
I blame Cameron for seeking to fill the party with left wingers to replicate Blair in 1997 who filled his party with right wingers. He saw his predecessors lose to Blair and thought this was the solution, but all he needed to do was wait for Labour to mess up the economy. Accordingly, a left leaning Tory party took coalition and then power, but with no Tory values.
The only thing "genuine" about the old Tory party is that they were more polite while stealing money from ordinary people. They hid it well.
The current Tory party has removed the facade of respectability and revealed the what was always the true core of Toryism, a crime syndicate masquerading as a political party.
In that sense the present Tory party is a least more honest than before. They're completely open about being corrupt, shafting the poor, fooling the gullible, and expecting to get away with it. True raw Toryism without any pretence of wimpish respectability.
At her heart shes a reasonable, professional, intelligent person. Unfortunately, she gave in to the mob, demeaning herself in the process. One of her lowest points was calling people like me Citizens of nowhere.
Previous to that, as home secretary for many years, she failed to curb immigration, which partly led to the vote for Brexit.
It's like Kermit the Fog walking on Stage and Dancing 😁
I was going to mention "Windrush" but looking at all the comments it seems pointless as everyone hates her as much as me.
I thought I was listening to Karl Pilkington for a moment.
Exactly!!
But not so masculine....
Parliament attempted to phillibustre the will of the people.
Cue the re-writing of history. Her legacy is the "she is better than what came afterwards" which is nothing to be proud of. She would have gone down as one of the worst primeministers in history were it not for Johnson, Truss and Sunak. Half the country predicted correctly what would happen after Brexit but half the country did not sell their beliefs to get a better job.
The establishment never wanted, never believed in it and have changed very little.
It a story of establishment containment.
Windrush- Gendfel I'll leave it there
She clearky knew that Brexit was a traincrash but lacked the moral courage to say so. She was weak and one factor in the mess we are in now. She put party before country and paid the price. But like Thatcher her hubby is a millionaire so why should she give a f**k?
There never was a chance of a successful Brexit the EU closed down the idea of a Singapore on Thames the day after the vote, we've been leeching money from the City ever since
quote from reuters
The transfer of assets from London to EU hubs remains around 1.3 trillion pounds ($1.7 trillion), EY said, adding that Brexit staff moves are by now part of a broader view of strategic business drivers and operating models.
FT
This report highlights the damage that Brexit has already done to the City of London. More than 440 firms in banking and finance have moved or are moving part of their business, staff, assets or legal entities from the UK to the EU. While this is higher than previous estimates, it underestimates the real picture - and the potential longer-term impact.
So the Britons got the moon on Thames in exchange...
@@JesusMagicPanties Argentina on the Channel
@@SlowhandGreg Keep an eye on the Falklands.
it's not brexit that caused that, your elites did that to punish you for wanting borders and a nation.
That is a total pack of lies.
I'm not a Tory supporter by any means, but I can appreciate what she tried to do in terms of minimising the damage Brexit was (and ultimately did) likely to cause to the UK. Her biggest failures in my mind were two things: first calling the 2017 General Election (Oh not again!), intended to strengthen her hand in Brexit Negotiations, it actually left her worse than she started, second was the response to the Grenfell Tower Fire, she was the subject of protests about how her government, and the local Tory run authorities, responded to the devastating fire at Grenfell Tower
Whenever I hear "regarded" I hear the other R-word...
She only had an ”impossible mission” because she picked party over country. She knew the disaster a hard Brexit would do, she knew Boris Johnson was ready to take over and yet she didn’t take those in favor of a second referendum and crossed the aisle. She is not as corrupt but she is certainly not without a lot of blame.
She is as good as a politician as a she is a dancer in a international competition.
The unthinking man's Karl Pilkington. You are talking utter carp.
Theresa May: "No British leader could ever agree to the draft EU withdrawal agreement which proposes splitting the UK."
She was almost right. She just needed to add the word "sane" after the first word.
The eu ognored her at the eu meeting, the uk were to soft
We haven't even left properly yet, so what is Gavin talking about lol
Her red lines ruined us
Britain has a constituency called "Maidenhead"...? Seriously? O_o
Longest serving home secretary, who oversaw the destruction of Windrush disembarkation records, before setting an ageny on vulnerable people. Should be in prison
Well, he would, wounld't he?
What a waste of space 😒
How can you say Brexit failed.
The remainers in the government and civil service have ensured we never really left.
We still send them the money, we still enact 99% of their [EU] new regulations - at the current time over 6000 average statutory instruments every month of which nearly 80 % are to stay with the EU regulations.
Warning? She was the one who the the put redlines down. She is as bad as the rest.
What absolute nonsense. She delivered a Brexit trajectory that resulted in no Customs Union and no Single Market.
Her judgement was terrible, as was her statecraft.
The only saving grace was she wasn't quite as bad Johnson, Truss or Sunak. That's it.
If she was regarded highly by her constituents then they need to take a DSM5 test.
Based on what happened after, i have a lot of sympathy for Mrs May. But her putting party over country was utterly wrong
She should have warned us what a fiasco she was about to make of it all.
David Cameron left her to clean up the mess. But I will never forget when she said the outcome of the referendum was a clear majority. A clear decision by the country. The country needed a leader to provide guidance through that most conflicting of times. And she steadfastly ignored the reality of the situation. I suppose it was an impossible task, but at least have the honesty to say 'the country is divided straight down the middle but one side edged it and we have to follow the democratic process nonetheless.' Just hearing that kind of acceptance of reality would have been encouraging. Yet ever since, the Tory party, infected by the extreme ideology of the ERG, has utterly failed to provide adequate leadership, integrity and vision.
She proposed a deal that kept us in the xommon market no?
Served as ordered!😂😂
It wasn't just May the SNP and Plaid said the same while the Labour party sat on the fence that long they got a severe rash.
Zero sympathy for May. Park responsibility for hard Brexit at her door.
It’s not too late to reapply to become a member again, just have to swallow a lot of pride. Let’s all be honest, Britain should never have withdrawn.
that's what they want, that's why they have done this humiliation ritual on the UK, if anything you should want the UK to desolve as a political unit because it's so corrupt it can't be democratic.
It will take more than swallowing pride. The UK does not even meet the written and non-negotiable requirements of the Maastricht Treaty.
Abolish the House of Lords, write down your constitution, introduce proportional representation, and reduce your national debt by a huge margin and then you will be able to apply. Just a few decades if you work hard, and you'll be able to start negotiations (unless any one of 27 countries vetos your application, for example, for your hostile actions and failing to fulfil your terms of the TCA). These usually last another 20 years or so.
See you in about 100 years!
Why would we want to join? How is your life different?
Wrong. We should never have joined the EU cesspit in the first place, and we never voted to join, we did vote to leave though.
@@victoriaplum997 You are ignorant of your own country's history. There was a referendum on joining in 1975. The result was a strong yes to joining.
So you DID vote to join.
Shame she insisted on leaving the single market and customs union because of her immigration obsession, thereby guaranteeing a hard brexit.
she was respected, but defenestrated by at least one of the lil cabals in the Tory party. These lil boys clubs have undermined every Tory PM since Thatcher.
I also predicted that what we now have post-Brexit would come to pass. Why am I not being held up as some soothsayer? She flip flopped throughout. As is always the case her PR team is trying to rewrite history to portray her as something she is not.
When Enlands Leaders Failed then what you do?
is she the last grown up to leave the Tories?
Perhaps Theresa May could come back as Chancellor of the Exchequer? After all David Cameron had a come back who made a vote for Brexit possible.
The only decent thing May did as PM was give us a good laugh with her robot dance.
Theresa May, but then again she may not
May was complicit in the disastrous brexit. Trash the country then walk away. Great...
What tosh. ! She wont be missed.
well, it looks like brexit has killed my job. yay
since continental brexits have fallen out of fashion and a full english takes too long most people polled would probably opt for a cereal brexit. yet, with the price of grain going up, choice amongst the brexit cereals might be increasingly limited.
"International Womens Day" what has Theresa May got in common with that i remember when Prime Minister on the same day giving 1 question to a female reporter and 4 to men when asked why she said "be grateful for that " Please International Women's Day 😊
Red lines and hostile environment? Hypocrite!
She was a disaster, brexit proposal was a disaster for us all
As a politician, see seemed competent. But as an EU national, I can never forgive her for her “no more EU nationals jumping the queue”.
Competent? You must be having a laugh.
The EU controlled 20% of world trade in 1993 and this has dropped to 12% today and continues to fall. Many Remoaners never read EU news, have no idea how its institution work and would struggle to name a British MEP other than Farage, so they will be completely unaware of the turmoil across the EU at the moment with a growing movement in many countries to leave the EU. Only poor countries seek to join it for the subsidies, but the rich nations have broadly ruled out joining. The EU is more than making it easier to go on holiday.
Typical brexiteer catechism...
May the month of May be the end of May.
Nah - May's tainted by Brexit. Stinks of Brexit.
Whenever there's a so-called LORD around in an interview, I can't watch because I don't believe in pagan idolatry 🙀
Trump should pay her royalties for having stolen her 'dancing' moves.
Immigration is good if a country has housing for them, If not as in my country, Canada rent is out of control. The working poor are now destitute and begging at food banks. Think carefully who you let in it will cost. Trudeau follow Teresa Mays example.
Teresa May destroyed any chance of a successful Brexit with her awful negotiations with the EU. This interview is biased as the
Go on tell us how? All Brexit agreements were bad.
She wanted to cherry pick. No!
There never was a chance of a successful Brexit the EU closed down the idea of a Singapore on Thames the day after the vote, we've been leeching money from the City ever since
quote from reuters
The transfer of assets from London to EU hubs remains around 1.3 trillion pounds ($1.7 trillion), EY said, adding that Brexit staff moves are by now part of a broader view of strategic business drivers and operating models.
FT
This report highlights the damage that Brexit has already done to the City of London. More than 440 firms in banking and finance have moved or are moving part of their business, staff, assets or legal entities from the UK to the EU. While this is higher than previous estimates, it underestimates the real picture - and the potential longer-term impact.
Your assuming there was ever a negotiation that would involve the EU rolling over .. that was never on no matter who negotiated
So did the EU.
Gavin forgets her red lines stupidity
If Trump is re-elected; I welcome UK to make me a new citizen if you have room!
Honestly Gavin, I think your judgement vis à vis T May is severe. A lot of what you say is true BUT Politicians placing the nation's interest about their own Party's or their own is a TINY minority. Yes she wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer but many were even worse. For me the worse she did is to betray her own ideals (she was a Remainer and de-facto acted as if she was a leaver. In France we would say: she prostitued her ideal to access n°10) To be fair MANY MANY has no idea what leaving consequences would be. During her Premiership it was a race to farytaleland as now it is a race to extreme right and even fascism for some.
Treason may
Why has he got a head, shaped like a light bulb?
We must rejoin the EU
But we don't want you back, once is enough, the European Union is better without little british clueless shenanigans
No why we voted to leave!! Leaves means leave if uou like it so much ..go live in europe and be controlled!!
No you are perfectly fine where you are. You may rejoin the Customs Union though
@@williamgreen6647unfortunately we can’t do that now thanks to Brexit. And we’ve replaced temporary eu migrants from similar cultural backgrounds with permanent migrants from all over the world. Idiot.
By the way, how’s Brexit going over all?
@@williamgreen6647 Same way you vote for a party every election - if you don't like the party in power or what they chose to do with it ( Eg Brexit ) then you chose the other
Democracy carries on - people can change their minds
her time as PM, WAS SO very HARD, because she knew what brexit meant, and how both side would not give an inch
she tried her very best for the country and for that reason i have a good opinon of her
the people that came after her was awful
Really? She tried her best for the party, not the country
if she cared only about her self, and wanted an easly ride she would have picked a sided, and stucked to it, the side she picked would have supported her and protected her, she didn't do that, because she knew brexit would not work, and staying would tear the country apart, she try to get a deal that would work. but both side would not give an inch, they just wanted to exploited the situation for their own interest, at the expense of the country
The worst pm Britain has ever add
Worse than Liz Truss?
Blair was even worse.
The UK will not rejoin because a join referendum is just not winnable - too many persuasive reasons to stay independent - no good reason to vote to join...
the people are to blame for brexit.Uninformed patriotic nonsense seated in slogans and iconography
Thats just cliche remainer stuff