The Best Walleye Lure That You're NOT Using
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Thank you for this method. I’ve tried to catch walleye with repeatability every way possible. Three weeks ago I stumbled on your video, and went and bought 2 f7 flatfish and rigged up like you showed. In 6 trips I have boated 25 keepers here in Indiana. Never in my 65 yrs. have I had that much fun. Let’s mention that this rig also catches all the different fish in the lake. Thanks again, gone fishin..
Tim, that is awesome to hear! Thanks for sharing that with everyone. KPO
Where in Indiana are you catching walleye?
@@timothymackinnon4953 i go up to michigan for walleye, good places for walleye are in the kankakee river for indiana
Indiana is hard for walleye I have been trying for year with little success 😔 still I won’t give up
Tried this with a Lindy rig. It doubled my Walleye catch for the day. Also caught a trout and a small sturgeon on the rig. Awesome advice!
Awesome! Glad to hear it worked for you! Thanks for letting me know, KPO.
Nice presentation on the flatfish presentation. I discovered this presentation a few years ago. I do a lot of drift fishing for walleye so I'm usually going pretty slow, works great.
Thanks for sharing!
I've been following you since finding your excellent video on cleaning a northern around the Y bones. My first attempt went perfectly. Keep up the good work, and thank you
Glad to help! Thanks for the support.
Great idea and explanation of the technique- definitely going to try it.
Let me know how it works for you, KPO.
Love it.... My dad ran that rig for years here in Michigan.... Really works well in the spring time in small Rivers that walleyes come up to spawn.... Same set up but he ran a small treble then to a Snell the leader of the flat fish was about 8-10" of 12-14lb trilene and a good ball bearing swivel.
Very cool! Thanks for adding in, KPO.
oh my god. .. this is hilarious. thank you so much for making me laugh out loud (literally). I love ronnie.
JH, thanks for that comment. Ronnie does add a certain element to the vids. KPO
@@KnettersPracticalOutdoors how deep will this #7 flatfish go to troll for walleye.i.d like to try it on a inland lake.also maybe for steelhead in a river this fall
@@iancameron1662 It doesn't run very deep at all. I always add split shot, bottom bouncers or snap weights depending on the depth. I've never fished with them for steelhead, but I know guys that do well with similar baits. Thanks for watching, KPO.
Really like this setup, can’t wait to give it a try!!!!
It works, it has a time and place. Let me know how it works for you, KPO.
I enjoyed seeing him talk about the flatfish I grew up in the mountains of Arizona used to do a lot of trolling for trout the flatfish worked really good especially the black with the silver spots the yellow with the red dots there's a couple of other so I don't remember right now I've never caught a wall I've caught Pike and trout and various other fish but there's a lake in Arizona that supposed to have some record-breaking walleye in it I'm going to try to get up there this fall and see if I can catch some thanks for the information
Thanks for adding in, KPO.
I appreciate how you think out of the box. Impressive sir! I’m gonna try it.
Please do!
Seems like a very good idea! I will certainly try this on my next walleye fishing trip! Thanks very much
Let me know how it works for you.
I just made 6 rigs with flatfish. Weekend is gonna bring a lot of fun :) Thank you for sharing!
Let me know how they work for you!
As always great video 👍.
Thanks for the comment, KPO.
This is actually pretty genius. With a regular walleye worm harness you need a bottom bouncer, which is great for deep water. But when they're in the shallow water I'm restricted to lures and spoons, which work great but only when they're aggressive. Definitely going to give this a try!!
It has a time and place, KPO.
A small bullet slip sinker ahead of the inline swivel and your regular walleye harness will hammer them in the shallows. Lindy rig basically.
I live in southern Pennsylvania and am wanting to try to walleye fish. I'm binge watching your videos.
Thanks so much for watching. Now I have done a lot of walleye fishing over the years and I have a few vids that I'm sure can help you out. But this guy, Tom Boley, check out his channel if you haven't already. th-cam.com/channels/RExOt3taw88mQiuyXrQpzA.html He used to guide and does seminars. Helping you catch walleyes is his thing. Let me know how the walleye fishing goes for you. Thanks again, KPO.
My two sons in law have got six of these rigs built for our annual walleye trip to the St.Clair River in Michigan in a couple of weeks. We always pound em on traditional harnesses so I will let you know how these do for us. Great video and thanks'!
Like I said in the video, these have a time and place. If you need to slow down they can work great, but if you are nailing them with spinners and crawlers in the past they still could be the best option. Just depends on conditions. Let me know how it goes and thanks for the support!
Columbia river, a small flatfish with a bit of worm was THE walleye trolling bait. I still have a box of them and will
try your method in the mid-Columbia river. Gary Northrop
Thanks for adding that in. Let me know how it works out, KPO.
Awesome shirt! I love playing with new ways to catch fish. This is great! Have you ever put a spinner behind a flatfish?
Haven't done that, but definitely give it a try.
thank you so much this was the best ever video Im up in northern ontario lake temagami now I have the info for your secret weapon and cant wait to try, if I catch alot thats great if I dont its still great old guys know
Let me know how it works for you Bill. Thanks for the comment, KPO.
I loved the Ronnie bit, you get 3x $2 items for $7. Great informative Vid thanks!
Awesome! Thank you!
Awesome idea I will give it a shot 👍
Under the right conditions they catch fish, KPO.
All my years fishing between Minnesota and Wisconsin I've never seen this rig. Gonna try it out this weekend.
Let me know how it worked.
I'm going to ask the dumb question I guess lol what size death hook do you generally run and do you prefer the ones with the built in swivel? Also what lb Floro? Love your channel. Learning new things with every video. Thanks much. God Bless. Northern lower Michigan here. Ogemaw Co.
If I'm remembering correctly, I usually run a size 2, 4 or 6. I like to go on the smaller side if there are nice panfish around. I'm kind of back and forth on the swivel, because I do like to thread my crawler up over the eye of the hook. The bulk of the eye, knot and tag end of the line help hold the crawler in place. If you thread up over the swivel it kind of defeats the purpose of the swivel. But with just a couple of inches of line behind the flatfish, the swivel kind probably do have more action if you don't thread too far up the hook. So the short answer is I'm still experimenting. I go with 20lb floro. I don't see a reason to go any lighter. Thanks for watching, KPO.
Great video 👍
Thanks for watching, KPO.
Love the Walleye extra value meal.
Thanks for letting me know that, KPO.
I wish Ronnie lived closer to me. Can’t beat that free gift,
You get it, KPO.
Hi thanks for the video. I have a question though. What is the purpose of that hooked attachment on your landing net and who makes it?
It's so that you can land your own fish. Fits on your forearm for leverage when using only one hand.
James, that "hook" is actually a handle designed for one handed netting. If you look at the vid again, imagine my hand on the black part and the hook part on my fore arm. It's pretty cool if you're the only one in the boat. The only thing I saw on the net was "Rivers and Lakes". Not sure if it's the company or the model. Thanks for the question. KPO
Thanks for the tip! Try it tomorrow!
Did it work?
@@KnettersPracticalOutdoors got waylayed no fishing!
Late to the party but can’t wait to try your set up tips this coming season so thank you. Is that a “vintage” Eagle Claw Wright & McGill rod? I have the same one if it is as well as the trolling version, they were/are great rods.
If you mean the yellow one, no. It's a rod I made when I was in 5th grade and the blank is a Fenwick. This rig does have a time and place. let me know how it goes.
Good reasonable theory. I like slow death hooks as well, somedays on Saginaw bay I did better with slow death than with regular hooks, I am going to give your method a try.
When I come up for a visit, I hope you will take me over to your one and only sponsors bait shop. Is that manual areator paper or straw?
I don't know Steve, looking at your walleye vids, you seem to be doing everything right already. But the FF are an option if you want to slow down from spinners or cranks. As far as the manual aerator, it just depends on which restaurant Ronnie last ate at! Thanks, KPO.
Thanks for idea. I have some flat fish that are rarely used.
Give them a try.
I like the premise. I'll be trying it on a large, shallow river, slow to moderate current, 1 1/4 oz in-line sinker, 36" leader to the F7, 6" leader to the #1 slow death hook w/crawler or leech. Slow trolling up and downstream, 1mph or less. My question is does the flatfish have a typical diving depth or will it run higher than the sinker?
It should run higher than the sinker in that situation.
I used to slow troll Junebug spinnerrigs and Lazy Ike and Flatfish on Lake Vermillion ,Tower Minnesota.Interesting hybridization,looks perfect.
I think it has it's place and time. Thanks for watching, KPO.
Okay that answers my question, the flatfish lure is different than the lazy Ike. Or is it?!
I still run em on vermillion. And crane, and namakan. Still my favorite jure of all time.
Good idea. Will have to rig some up .What is a good color for walleyes.
Gerald, I'm sure different colors work better than others, but just like other lures that depends on many things; water clarity, fishing during the day/night, local walleye menu. I usually stick to the rules of thumb; stained water bright colors (chartreuse, firetiger or something that glows) clear water more natural colors (silver, white) although white has been good for me in all types of water. Either way that crawler looks like a crawler. Thanks for the comment and let me know how it works out for you, KPO.
Where is Camaro's Crawlers located?
Might try this flatfish trick on Saginaw Bay some time, if the stupid NE winds ever calm down.
Like I said it's an option. If your getting fish with cranks or spinners that might be best for the big open water of Saginaw I don't know. But if you want to slow down a little or drift with very little wind, the FF are an option. Thanks for watching, KPO.
What size slow death hook do you use behind the f5 flatfish? Nice Video, great job, you kept my interest on thinking outside the box.
I believe I use size 2 and 4 slow death. Smaller sizes are nice if there are some nice perch or bluegills around. Thanks for watching, KPO.
Going to be drift fishing from a head boat on Lake Erie in a couple days. Would like to try this if crawler harnesses not working. Usually fishing 15’-25’ deep this time of year I’d guess. Would you use the same inline weight (1 oz or so) I’m using for the crawler harness or use a bottom bouncer?
Same weights should be fine. But you will be trolling slower with the flatfish. That might cause them to run deeper than expected. If the flatfish are trolled too fast they just turn upside down or sideways. Let me know how it works out.
How did it work out for you? @reggiem1668
Oddly enough, the most fish were caught on Erie Dearies that day I believe! I have never gotten them to work that well myself! The boat crew were initially recommending crawler harnesses which did ok. I don’t think I got any bites on the flatfish setup, but, as he said, we may have been drifting too fast! It was a bit windy if I remember right.
2+2+2= 7 i think it's a sweet deal..hmm nice trick with the slow death flat fish
Paul, you're paying attention! Hey, thanks for watching, KPO.
Yeah Paul, that's why "Mr. Camaro" is still living with mom and dad... His math skills are a little fuzzy. Must be that "common core" math. lol
My thoughts exactly.lol
thanks i will try this ive got some of them in an old tackle box that never gets used
Good luck!
Thanks and God bless!
Our pleasure!
hey i like using just a split shot and plain hook but seems like Gamagatzu hooks are excellent what are you using for live bait set ups for hardwater
I do a little pike fishing with dead bait (smelt) and sometimes shiners, KPO.
OK, the extra value meal.... so funny! Lmao!
And what a great price, I'd buy that!
Glad you enjoyed that.
I will be trying the flat fish trick on Erie. I have a bunch of flat fish. Oh yeah love your videos best on you tube.
Steel, thanks for watching. Like I said in the vid, the FF are an option. I don't know but depending on how you fish Erie they might be too slow, KPO.
So did the flat fish work on erie?
@@mikelauer908 yeah early spring they did, under 12 foot of water and under. Will try deeper starting soon.
I fish on lake erie all the time as i live right by this lake.. this rig seems like it would catch a ton of sheephead (freshwater drum)
You are probably right, KPO.
Funny! Made my day
Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching, KPO.
Informative-funny- innovative=great video (2+2+2=7=😀)
This worked great. There aren't many walleye around here, but I caught big crappies, perch, bass and even a few catfish.
I made a few changes. I used a Kwikfish K9 bc it was all I had, but the larger size probably helped in the stained water I fish. I tried both minnows and worms. Both caught crappies and perch, but I caught more catfish with nightcrawlers.
Mark, glad to hear that. Thanks for the comment, KPO.
what size and type of line are you using for the trailer hook? Also i think the length or line and softness will change alot whats happening to the crawler action ,, the vibration will change depending on the line size.. Great set up and great vid!
I use 20lb fluoro. It's more about break offs for me.
@@KnettersPracticalOutdoors i find when using fluoro carbon for flyfishing tippets way more break offs compaired to monofor me mono has a good amount stretch and it can take the the hard hits better.. but thanks man i will try 10 pound mono ....
Just came from a walleye trip up in northern Ontario about 2 weeks ago. We portage into outback lakes(most people do not like too walk a 1 1/2 mile portage). These lakes are not stocked, all natural reproduction. Trolled using spinner and worm combo such as in your video. Once the walleye were found, we would drift with a white jig head and worm combo. Just killed em. Got a lot of fish in the slot limit but kept a lot of good eaters. Picked up a couple of over 24 inchers but put em back to breed. We are going back in August and I will try your set-up. The only thing that sucked about the trip was: Black flies, Mosquitos and runnin out of beer.
A rookie mistake. Remember everything costs more, takes longer, and bring more beer.
Unclekato, these rigs have a time and place, but it sounds like you're doing everything right already...……….except the amount of beer you bring! Thanks for adding in, KPO.
That Walleye Extra Value Meal promo....😂
Nick, glad you enjoyed the video. I checked out your channel and it's awesome, subbed you right away. I'm pretty sure you have some relatives that have taught me a lot about fishing over the last 40 years. Thanks for watching, KPO.
Yup, me too to both of you. Now I just need to get on one of your boats... or both 🤔😏
what size line are you putting on those flatfish alterations with death hook?
I generally use 20# fluorocarbon, KPO.
Excellent hypothesis; separating the crawler from Flatfish or Spinner. I've never considered this.
Thank you.
I’ve always had good luck with the Lazy Ike lure.
Same here!
Red with black dots. It's da best better than the rest. You need a very slow troll or you can drift fish as they have a lot of action at very slow speeds. If you keep the leader short enough the action of the flat fish will make the crawler swim.
Dan, I'll have to get one. Thanks for adding in, KPO.
Ronnie needs to put a one way valve on the straw, this is the third time I drank most of the water.
Basically when Subway starts putting a check valve on their straws, Ronnie will start having check valves on his straws, if you know what I mean. Thanks for watching, KPO.
So im gonna give this a 10 for fishermanship lol guess im gonna try the flatfish i fish northern wisc alot but i wonder how it would work on the wisc river system
When I was a kid I fished the Wisconsin River in the Rhinelander area a lot. But back then it was mostly casting Spinners and F11 Rapalas. Let me know how it works out, KPO.
Ive been wanting to try this method for a couple years now. I actually think a walleye will take a right colored flatfish by itself.
William, yes you can catch walleyes and other fish with just a plain flatfish. Just like you can get them with a plain spinner and no crawler. The crawler just makes it better. Thanks for watching, KPO.
@@KnettersPracticalOutdoors You're probably aware of this but just in case you're not there are not many lures better for trout than a flatfish. I can't begin to tell you how many big rainbows and browns I've caught on a flatfish. It's also a great salmon and mackinaw lure.
Yes I have done a little of that myself. I use them for fishing rainbows in stocked lakes and I know steelhead fisherman will use them in streams also. It sounds like to me that you are trolling them in bigger water (or tributaries to big water) based on you mentioning salmon? They are somewhat underrated but work well for many species. Thanks for adding in, KPO.
I couldn't get f7s so I purchased x4s. The x4s I could only get down to a crawler harness speed (1.1mph)--bummer. I'm assuming the f7s work slower, so what's the lowest speed the f7s will still work at?
I don't know the exact speed, but they wiggle with anything slightly more than being stopped. KPO
I brought the Worden's brand flat fish X-5 and I am having to cut off the hooks to make the modifications. So do some come with a slip ring and hooks or is this something you added to the flatfish with your modification? I need bot cutter to get the hooks off.
Some have snap rings but on others I have cut the hooks, KPO.
@@KnettersPracticalOutdoors Thanks
my thoughts on the flasher and the crawler..and the distance. well, the walleyed seeing a fish,the flasher finding a worm but is too small to eat it whole,and the bully walleye,says gimme that.. steals it from the baby fish...even humans use the logic of steeling candy from a baby...great video and im defiantly going to try these tips,because I cant catch a walleyed to save my life.
Get on good walleye water and get these to the right depth and you will catch them, KPO.
Interesting concept. I'm fishing Columbia River, downstream with the current most of the time. Current runs 1-2.5 mph. Try to troll just faster than the current. Wonder how this flatfish would act in current situations?
Slow it down and troll into the current. 2.5 is ripping for walleyes. Assuming their noses are into the current give em some time to react
J Myhre I was thinking the same thing. How this combination would work downhill trolling in the John day pool
Realize this is older vid but really appreciated the perspective using flat fish lure. New to me. Still relevant ?🎣
I still use them and they still work.
Do you think X4 flatfish will work OK? They are 2 1/2"
Yes, I've used those too, they work. I just prefer the F7s. Thanks for watching, KPO.
What is the purpose of a death hook? Does it keep the crawler on better, or make the crawler spin? Would a death hook be used with a minnow?
Yes to all questions. Thanks, KPO.
Relax, absorb, enjoy
Good advice, KPO.
Yup - I laughed out loud just as my wife walked into the room. "Only $7.00". Thanks!
Awesome! Glad to hear people are laughing a little right now. Thanks for watching, KPO.
Lol!
Is there a certain color to use or is color more of a region or lake specific colors?
I really like white. White seems to work in clear or stained water. I also like chromes and yellows. Thanks for watching, KPO.
Question please. Does the flat fish has to have rattling in it?
Mine do not, KPO.
Ok so we are fishing detroit river 3,4,5 oz bottom bouncer how much line should i use with the flatfish ? Ok wait i can still use my 36inch and then put the flat fish +4inch line then hook???
At slow speeds the flatfish hardly dive at all. I would stay with the same leads used with harnesses.
Have you used it with a bottom bouncers so the smack the bottom?
I have used these with bottom bouncers but I usually troll so slow they don't really dig down to were they hit the bottom. KPO
@@KnettersPracticalOutdoors thank you, I'll be at the lake this coming week and the walleye are deep and going for very slow jig retrieval. I bought a few flatfish and I'll implement this tactic.
Can you tell me what Brand these Flatfish are? And where I can purchase a few? Thank you
I believe they are Worden's Flatfish. I have got them on Amazon, KPO.
Has anyone considered running small dodgers, or salmon spoons for walleyes. Similar to this setup but it would almost be like combining the flatfish and a spinner. You’d get the flash and some action out of it. I’ll try it this spring and get back with some results. Thanks for the idea though. I’ll have to add this to the repertoire.
A couple of times I have used really thin light spoons in front of the crawler. I'm sure they would work if I gave them more time, but they need to be trolled a little faster so I haven't stuck with them. KPO
Knetters Practical Outdoors, makes sense. I use it for trout but it’s a little faster as you said. I appreciate the flatfish trolling technique, nobody does that around here. Can’t wait to try it.
Spin-n-Glows work alot slower than any flatfish followed by the SMile Blade which is a 2 bladed Mylar spinner.
Yes, I've experimented with spin-n-glows. They are a good option too.
Lindy Fishing Tackle basically produces this same style bait. It’s called the Lindy Lil Guy and they work great for walleyes
Yes, those work too. The main difference is the Lil Guy doesn't wobble as much at slow speeds.
I have a kwikfish the luhr jensen in my strock that looks a lot like flatfish to make and tried this rig. have you already tried?
I haven't tried them, but I'm sure they would do well also.
@@KnettersPracticalOutdoors Thank you for your answer. Have you ever tried hooking the line after the hook instead of removing it. in the event that the fish would attack the flatfish?
Good video. The "industry" is crooked. I'm talking about the manufacturers and those promoting them. There are many very good lures that, suddenly, are not good anymore. This according to them. Yes, there are new lures that are very good and the technology helps with that. But how come some lures like the flatfish, and the daredevil are not good lures anymore today? They still are and you will catch fish with those. Thank you for this video because you're also addressing this very important point I'm talking about.
Yes, thanks for adding that in. One thing to consider is that many "Pros" really need to move the needle of selling a product. So many great ways to catch fish involve live bait. Most live bait techniques don't sell products. So when a "Pro" tells you this or that is the best way to catch a walleye/bass, this "Pro" may have other motivations than just helping you catch more fish.
@@KnettersPracticalOutdoors So true...I had an argument with one of them. He got real mad, publicly, when I addressed that and told the truth. I have nothing against the lure manufacturers, but there's a limit.
There are lures for fish in the water and lures to empty the wallet of the "walking fish"...
fish can be downright impossible sometimes to please and years ago while walleye fishing the st lawrence and sick of seeing fish that just dont eat, i thought, "you want realistic. here it comes". i put a rattle trap a couple feet behind a bucktail jig and put worms on both. a minnow basically trying to catch a worm. every cast after that had something, bass and some big perch hit the rattle trap and walleyes hit the jig
That's a great idea!
how slow are you pulling these if your using boards? how much line are throwing out behind the boat? thanks
Less than a mile/hr. They will rise to the surface if ran too fast. The line out depends on how deep I want them to run. I add split shot sometimes, but I usually just run them 50ft or so behind planers and they are only going a few feet down.
Thank you. Mostly I’ll be running in 10ft of water , I’m just trying to find methods to fish in the wind, this looks like it will work out for me
Would you weight a flat fish for 18- 15 feet of water? Or is that too deep?
It's not too deep. Definitely use some weight system if you feel the fish are deeper than a couple of feet. These flat fish don't run very deep on there own. Thanks for watching, KPO.
@@KnettersPracticalOutdoors Thanks for the tips. I appreciate your response.
When you put weights on where do you put the weights on the line?
What kind of depths are you getting and how much line out ?
Well, I usually add a little weight to the set-up (1/8 oz split shot). That along with the crawler makes the Flatfish sink very slowly. So now my depth is very speed dependent. If I am trolling, I might be letting out 100 feet to get down 4 feet. If I am wind drifting (slower) it might be 50 feet out to get 4 feet down. When I wind drift, I am always experimenting because the speed is never exactly the same. Thanks for watching, KPO.
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What size hook are you putting behind the flat fish
3/0 to 6/0 seems to work for me.
Would you recommend a minnow instead of a night crawler?
Never tried it but I'm sure it would work.
Is it necessary to remove the treble hooks from the flatfish?
I'm sure you could leave it and maybe I should too.
Can you cast from shour using this setup?
Yes, but they will probably need some weight added and I would keep the slow death hook close, so it doesn't tangle with the flatfish on the cast, KPO.
I did try the flat fish again this year but with the 2 hook harness caught 1 fish then switched back to spinners number 3 blades seamed they caught more then number 4 blades witch we usually use tried some slow death Next trip in 3 weeks i will try slow death behind a flatfish
Richard, like I said in the vid, the FF are a good option if you want to slow down some from spinners. They work for many of the lakes/conditions I fish. Thanks again, KPO.
How deep do these go.? Can you put weights to go done 20 feet?
yes
i rigged the flat fish as you said.we went out trolling ,flat fish wouldn't dive?do add weights such as slip shot or slip sinkers? why wasn't ours diving.thanks .
They don't dive much and need to be fished very slow or they turn on their side and rise. Sinkers should help.
@@KnettersPracticalOutdoors thank you
Like your videos are you from Michigan ?
Yes I am. Upper Peninsula. What gave it away? KPO
@@KnettersPracticalOutdoors lol - I watch alot without sound at work - so i figured and all but just wanted to verify, enjoy your stuff
@@KnettersPracticalOutdoors Packers cap in slip bobber video told me.
Where do you find slip bobbers?
I see them most everywhere tackle is sold. Gander Outdoors, Bass Pro. Online at the Grizzly Tackle Company, they have a great selection of bobber because they mostly cater to crappie fisherman. Thanks for watching, KPO.
A palomar knot with a small tag of line will hold your crawler on the slow death.
I'm interested but I need more details, KPO
@@KnettersPracticalOutdoors When you tie your hook on, use a palomar. It leaves a tag end which you can cut to 3/16" or so. Slide the nose of your crawler over the knot and the tag acts as a barb.
He's right . I do this too
Thanks for adding in, KPO.
So its $2 each sparately for the 3 items in the value meal and $7 in a pack of 3?
but you get a prize!
Lol walleye extra value meal: 2dollars each for 3 items for 7 bucks. What a damn deal!
Ronnie isn't great at math!
Can I bank fish this setup? This looks really interesting. Never caught a walleye and been trying to since last year lol. HELP!? Lol
Yes, you could bank fish them. You may need some weight added to cast them, KPO.
Do you ever put a hook close to the flatfish? You know, in case an eye bites it?
Yes, kinda of. When I first starter doing this I just put a crawler on the treble hook that comes on the flatfish. Once I started using slow death I added the space. I've thought about keeping the hook on the flatfish along with the slow death. Really it can't hurt. I'm still experimenting. Thanks for the interest, KPO.
So do you use a weight with the Flatfish or not? I mean you as in you personally
Yes, I usually put some kind of weight on it. But it depends where you believe the fish to be. Whatever weight gets the FF down to the fish, KPO.
Ok thanks 👍
Do you use snap weights or what type of weight do you use?
Is that an old Mitchell 300 laying there beside you?
You know it!
Is that lure the same as one of those lazy Ike baits?
Very similiar. They should work too.
Are you able to flat line troll with this? How deep will it dive?
It doesn't dive deep at all. I usually add a split shot just to get it down a few feet at 75 ft back.
Great video these walleyes rig looks so weird and they don't come with instructions. I always see them and I get confused on how to use it.
Yes, I make mine, but they are similar to Lindy Little Guys. But the Little Guys are trolled faster most of the time.
Hey Dave the best walleye lure your not using is my buddies fishgrub blades purple front green on back. I use the size 4. Let me know how to get some to you and I will ship you some for free. Heck I'll even send Ronnie some, maybe he can move out of his mom's house someday with the savings. LOL 😂. I really do well with those purple blades though, let me know. He sells them on eBay as a hobby.
I don't know if Ronnie's ever moving out. Ever since high school he always want to be a "Stay At Home" son. He's followed thru with his career goals, KPO.
What is your buddies eBay address