Was Hannibal Barca Black?
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- In this video Dr. Rebecca Futo Kennedy answers our question as to whether or not Hannibal Barca the great Carthaginian General that made Rome tremble was black?
We discuss arguments that rage online involving the Punic Peoples, Phoenicians, Berbers and etc, when it comes to race and ethnicity in the ancient world.
We also discuss the confusion and complexity of identity in ancient North Africa since a variety of peoples and cultures have mixed through years of population movements in Antiquity.
Finally when we leave off we come to the conclusion that (1) he skin color doesn't matter, (2) we will realistically never know and (3) in the end he is a great military leader who will always be known in the history of Africa.
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"Let's talk about the question and implicit biases instead of attempting to actually answer the question".
Yes what a ridiculous video
She seemed far more interested in insisting he wasn't white more than anything else. I've never once heard anyone claim Hannibal was white (although I'm sure some people do). She was the one who seems hung up on this question.
@@wodenravens it’s the classic straw man argument whenever this comes up. “Hannibal wasn’t black.” “Well, he wasn’t white either.”
@matius bond now you are pulling another fallacy by mixing up to separate terms. Caesar and Alexander were not white, but they were caucasian, thus there were empires in North Africa dominated by a caucasian society. You don’t need to have white skin to be Caucasian, just as you don’t need be sub-saharan african to have dark skin. When your claims get challenged, or even accepted, you begin to back-peddle like all these other yakubian hotep retards. You came here bitching caesar wasn’t white, then when you realized no one disputed that, not a single damn person in this entire videos comments, you turned to “caucasians never had an empire in ancient africa” You just want to be in a perpetual state of struggle, victimizing yourself for no reason. There are plenty of sub-saharan peoples to discuss and be proud of, but you insist on stealing from others history. I feel sorry for you.
@@wodenravens no she was helping debunked white history she's doing a good job
If hannibal was black don't you think the Romans would have pointed that out?
Na the Romans aren't known for their record keeping lol
@@SM-nz9ff 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am here because someone claimed Roman records said he was “black as coal.”
Even if they did, people would deny it . This is what happened with ancient egypt and Moorish
It's really fascinating the obsession of some black people on stealing north african heritage@@alextsomambet1311
"If you look at the bust, if we're gonna say 'look at the physical features,' he's not white." That bust looks white to me. He looks like Eric Clapton.
I was thinking something similar, but I think similarities are superficial, although we can discard the silliness of him being black. But in regards to him looking white, the beard is too curly, as well as, I suspect, his head hair from what's visible. Also, his nose is too large, lips are too full, and eyes a tad too large to be nordic (white).
What i see is a Mediterranean person. If you want to mis-appropriate Mediterraneans as white, that may be your prerogative, but beyond superficialities, I don't see it.
6:06
The bust was curved after his death by people who didn't know who he was
@@Pouncealot2023 even if that were so, we can be sure people where it was found, in Sicily, knew full well what Carthagians looked like. That's a safe bet, considering Sicily had been under their control, and basing a bust off of some other non-pertinant phenotype would have been ridiculous.
I guess you could say he has plenty of features that European/American white supremacists would call 'not white'. But he has plenty more that would identify him as 'not black'... There's more than two skin colours.
@@boxerfencer and that's precisely the point they made an assumption of what they thought he would look like but if you look at the coins recovered from that time it seems to be a bit off,he might have been black/white/mixed but those sculptures are not good for reference
It's amazing how she starts her answer with "first let's start by calling out this obsession with trying to make Hannibal white" even though nobody is saying that and the only reason it's even a debate point is because people are trying to make him black.
I agree, it is ridiculous to point out that Hannibal was not German or Nordic. Who has made such a claim?
@Aaron9 please cite your evidence. The question is of little relevance but no claim can be sustained without it
@@terrencewalker8219 how so of little relevance
@@noahnoah2747 wouldn’t change anything. Why would the colour of Hanibbal’s skin be more interesting than the size of his feet? His life and achievements are certainly noteworthy.
@@terrencewalker8219 the whole discussion was about Hannibal's race and ethnicity.
He was a Mediterranean, yes we exist.
Hahah
Proto-Romans
I prefer to think of the Mediterranean as a Nilodic people who ultimately derive from Nubia. You are clearly a racist.
@@MarkVrem hahaha
@@sarad6627 That better be a joke lol
I like the talk of bias, but at no point did she actually attempt to answer the question. It was a ramble, and a very hard to follow one at that.
It’s telling.
Yes its sad she didn't answere the question, sO i WILL.HE WAS MOST DEFINATELY BLACK PERIOD!!!!
She did answer the question..she said he was black but if they wanted to choose anything else it would not be European..thats what she was ssying..
her point is that she does not know, but absurdly excludes any chance that he was european.
@@ivankovacic7466 that's because he wasn't white..thats what she said and is saying..her and other scholars are saying that cause he wasn't..
He was phonecian, originating in the levant.
I think you can picture his etnicity from these factors.
He was from North Africa not the Levant and the North African Punics had for so many centuries been there that hybrid Lybio-Phonecian ethnicity had developed on the fertile lands near the coast
@@ikengaspirit3063 No, the phonecians in general and especially the elite had strict marriage customs which didn't allow non phonecians into their families.
@@POLITICUS-DANICUS Spencer wells did genetic tests on Carthaginians and found out that nearly 20% of their genetic lineages were middle-eastern
Most of it was aboriginal North African
@matius bond North Africans are not black
We are a cauxasoid species of people so not black
The Phoenicians were black and had afros and braids
Next up, was Nero from Mexico?
You people really are stupid.
Lol
No he was a transgender chinese person
Hey genius search carthage is it near African.. mexico is hear rome last time i checked right. Idiot
There are millions of white Mexicans. !5 percent of the Mexican population.
Answer: No
LOL, I bet you believe europeans are indigenous to North Afrika too?
This is quite stupid. Quit viewing history through a modern lens - you do everyone a great disservice.
Phonecian weren't sub Saharan though.
@not fair Run me my money
@@Abhishek-sr2pu what is Sub Saharan?
There absolutely nothing modern about racism homie smh
@@WaltPDABADGUY Oh yeah? What year was the term "racism" first used? And by whom? Divide and conquer is alive and well - Malcom X knew who the puppet masters were. Don't fall into the trap.
Hannibals life would make for the most epic movie trilogy ever made.
True. Hollywood would blow it no doubt but if a talented director could get a chance with the support of the producers and dedicated to realism /no made up characters or anachronistic moralism etc.
Pretty much Hannibal is Kratos🤣
vin diesel wanted to make a hannibal barca movie not sure what happened though.
@@S2Cents
I wonder what does 'anachronistic moralism' mean? And why is it bad? And made up characters are needed to make the plot more interesting. No one, no director, will invest a lot of money, effort and time in a film that will be of interest only to a small bunch of history buffs. This is not a documentary. A film, or better a TV series, should be entertaining, it should be of interest to a large number of people, a wide audience. Many do not even know who Hannibal Barca was, and what Carthage was.
@@Aristonike9999 you can type all that, you can gooogle, so go ahead. Needless to say, what I said is clear enough and you didn't make any points that have me reconsidering it.
By all accounts it seems like the Barcid family was very much of Phoenician / Canaanite ancestry and culture. They obviously spoke a Semitic language and worshiped Semitic gods. It would be a massive leap to even suggest they were not of Phoenician ancestry being that there is zero evidence that they were anything but.
Exactly.
Thing that you guys fail to realize is that black people were living in the Middle East and North Africa as well .
@@Speedy300 and?
@@theccpisaparasite8813 😂😂Ok , Professor, what did I miss
@@Speedy300 You were the one who made the statement, as if it had meaning or relevance. Now explain what relevance is im puzzled.
I'm actually from Carthage , i grew up in the same city where Hannibal was born , we learn about Carthage and Hannibal very extensively in History class . He was a Mediterranean type , he looked like Italians , North africans , Greeks , Spaniards etc..
If you send your kids to Caesar do not be surprised if they come back Romans. History has been distorted
Sure
European Mediterraneans are much lighter than North Africans especially back than.
Muath Eluafi...Your history class based on ALL the truths is telling you illogical and obvious lies .Ancient Africans belonged to the black race.
The problem is Afro centrists and progressives believe everything African is Black African.
More identity-politics crap.
Well that wasn't helpful.....
Why you hurt me like that?
I thought of as being quite informative and enjoyable.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 You delete comments now? Pity :(
@Greg Doherty he literally has academics on his channel. You think you're contributing to the culture and academia? Lol
@Greg Doherty who are you that you know what historians worldwide say? Imbecile
Says more about political correctness in 21st century USA than the ancient world
I just unsubscribed. The woke bias was so obvious in the first two minutes. Holy shit. This sucks and they're trying to rewrite history
@@colleenryor2586 You beat me to it. If there is ever a time to call a white historian "woke", this is it.
Wake up and let it go
I typed into youtube "Was hannibal nordic" and "was Hannibal germanic" guess how many videos came up? 0
Yeah Marxist-Leftists do not seem to understand this boogie-man of "White Supremacy" is not real, and the only hardcore racists out there publicly pushing Racism is THE LEFT...
There are so many people who will say Hannibal was white plenty of them so try not to play dumb.
@@markheimiller2082 white supremacy is very real and people like you love to promote it but then at the same time try to say that you're the victim.
@@markheimiller2082 You're SO dumb.
@@markheimiller2082 how can you say racism doesn't exist. And why are you blaming the left for everything? Your basically saying that anyone on the left is a racist idiot. We're all individuals dude
You know you are a badass when every culture and race is trying to claim you as their own.
Blacks try to claim everyone on or near the African continent since their ancestors have no appreciable achievements.
@@gregkosinski2303 REALLY!!!! WHO CIVILIZED EUROPEANS AND SETTELED THE WORLD 1ST?
@@gregkosinski2303 Bro face it Hannibal was from Africa
@@originalskywalker yes north african not black
@@oooo3141 North Africa got invaded by all types of foreign people not original to the land.Why do people try to make Egypt white so much, Egypt is a Greek word why ain't yall looking in Europe for the secrets. But yall will never get the secrets not brn with it. Most of all storyline are stolen always taken from others. Hannibal knew what's was coming the Devil. The Roman's was the devils 😈now look at the world today all messed up. Because of the devils
This channel is getting too woke for my taste, what a shame
(edited) That is why his Subscriber count originally went down, but now it has gone up though due to that fact it is clickbait and TH-cam promotes these sorts of Racist ideologies to the fullest.
He assumes everyone who is into history is just as racist, or ignorant, or biased as he is.
I had the #1 comment on this video and he deleted it, as well as many other comments I made in response to other comments,
@@markheimiller2082 Naw he's just not feeding the historic White Lie machine.
@@MedjayCommander you’re clueless
@@markheimiller2082 I believe you
Too woke
This obsession with race/skin color is going to cause a lot of lethal problems.
I’m curious as to why you would say that?
@@ricodaruler121
Because it's insidiously embittering and is a tool used by the power hungry.
I agree 1,000 percent
Already has and History must repeat it self sadly
@Spoof Kid says who
The Carthaginians came from Phoenicia so wouldn't Hannibal, being from a wealthy Carthaginian family, be more likely Middle Eastern?
ALL SOLID EVIDENCE IN SOCIAL MEDIA CONFIRMS THE PHOENICIANS WERE BLACK AS DOES THE BIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tHE ANCIENT MIDDLE EAST at that time didn't even exist ,and when it did they were almost as primitive as early Europeans ,and had nothing to do with Africa,oH and by the way,the 1ST HUMANS TO SET FOOT IN THE MIDDLE EAST WERE NATIVE AFRICANS. bY THE EVIDENCE HANNIBAL WAS A DARK SKIN NATIVE AFRICAN.
The Middle East is a Geographical Location and is not a racial designation. Within that region, people of diverse races exist.
@@radrook2153 People call themselves Middle Eastern all the time what are you on about lmao
@@radrook2153 Yes but Hannibal and Carthage r in Africa ,not the Middle East
@@50shekels The Middle East term and region was created by the British Empire in the late 1800s, it was formerly known as North East Africa and it was annexed from Africa when the British found oil.
This was dumb
@Greg Doherty what was
This channel has been downhill for multiple pieces now... Listen to his voice, you can tell just by the way he carries himself he is a Leftist.
He is clearly showing his true colors and wants to promote Racism and Marxist Post-Modernist revisionist History.
By focusing on the RACE OF THE PERSON AND MAKING SURE TO SAY IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEIR RACE IS AS LONG AS IT IS NOT WHITE, that is RACIST... LOL....
To make it even worse, she goes on and then is saying things like "it does not matter if he was Black, we do know he was NOT WHITE, Aryan, etc."...
Well if his RACE does not matter then WHY THE FUCK MAKE THE VIDEO IN THE FIRST PLACE LOL
Post Modernism is from the School of Frankfurt, which is MARXIST in its roots...
Post Modernism and Revisionist History come from the Frankfurt School of Post-Modernism. THEY were Marxist and funded and created by Marxists...
Revisionist History is Marxist at heart. It is created by Marxists, from the Frankfurt School of Post-Modernism.
@@markheimiller2082 Exactly. If she said "We don't know if he was as white as people from Scandinavia but at least we know he wasn't black. *laugh*. He is not your people. *angry staring at camera*." She would have been called out for being a racist and this whole channel would have been cancelled.
Was Hannibal White as in Northern European White is not what was asked and who really cares, the question was was he Black as in Sub Saharan Black. Rebecca is obviously scared that she will never get a job at a University if she actually answers the question of was Hannibal Black? From the bust she displays the only thing that is obvious is Hannibal is portrayed as a generic Mediterranean type who might be a shade paler than Muammar Gaddafi or he might be a fairly dark shade of brown. The only thing that can be said is that his features aren't Sub Saharan Black which is the question and it would probably end Rebecca's career if she tried to actually answer it.
The original Coin of Hannibal of Carthage shows a sub Saharan African man on one side and an Elephant on the other side this Clint was later redesigned to show a European man and an elephant but the originals coin show a negroid man as Hannibal of Carthage
@@dragonofthewest8305 no it doesn't dork lol
@@dragonofthewest8305 Carthagenians were black and brown native Africans,PERIOD. The racism and lies of many people of Caucasian descent is very exposed today.Whitewashed videos are EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE.
Hannibal was of Greek mother and Semitic father.
The city of Carthage was founded in the 9th century BC on the coast of Northwest Africa, in what is now Tunisia, as one of a number of Phoenician settlements in the western Mediterranean created to facilitate trade from the city of Tyre on the coast of what is now Lebanon.
Disappointing
Truth is won’t ruin my world view if Hannibal was black , but if you are going to ask the question without having anything meaningful to say I have to ask what motivated you to create this vid, other than click bait
agreed!!!
BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO WHITE PEOPLE TO MAINTAIN LIES IN ALL FORMS OF SUBTLETY.
Critical race theory meets study of antiquity and the middle ages...........
What are the chances of a Lebanese-Tunisian guy looking Nigerian?
I'm Egyptian and it's incredibly hard for me to tell if someone is Moroccan, Libyan, Egyptian, Levantine or Iranian just by looks. most people from Iran to morocco have very comparable features. yes there are black people in all those nations but they are a minority. Even North Sudanese people look very different than South Sudanese ones. It's not so hard to see why people living in the desert, and speaking the same family of languages are more related to people living in heavily forested areas were every few meters the language is different, sometimes belonging to a totally unrelated family. I'm sorry but it is just the fact of the matter that people from Tunisia or Algeria are more related to people from the levant than they are to people of West Africa. Tamazight, Ancient Egyptian, Syriac, Aramaic, Ge'ez, Phoenician, Hebrew, and Arabic are all Afroasiatic languages originating on the coast of the Red Sea. Bantu and Nigerian Congo languages have nothing to do with that. I wish Afrocentrists would stop trying to steal North African and Middle Eastern cultures. Sub-Saharan Africa already has its fair share of strong civilizations, just stick to them.
@Menes D Wise
lmao Rahotep and his wife were black?
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@@menesdwise4551
Don't pivot, are Rahotep and his wife black?
we are not just related by language and history we are all the descended from similar near eastern Neolthic farmer groups , it's amazing how these sub saharan negroes descents from the west usally USA even have the audacity to claim a history of people so different from them!! imagine a saudi claiming Oda nobunaga or chengiz khan to be an Arab because they lived in the same "continent" .
@@pczone7641 Exactly, thank you
I believe Hannibal was of tan skin and curly hair, which was the normal appearance of a Phoenician in his time.
Maliek Jackson..BRO you have much to learn and should know better especially as a black man.ALL the people in those regions were dark skin,and Phoenicians were black, RESEARCH ,EVEN THE coin shows him as black
@@matiusbond6052 The Carthagians were a colony of Tire, off the coast of Lebanon. If they were black Africans, the roman historians would have “noted” that. Roman historians also “noted” people who looked different than Romans: like the red-haired Schythians, or the blonde haired Germans
@@mC-hb4tr I am only gonna take 3 avenues of truth here!!.There were no Caucasian Empires in Africa. The lebanese of today DID NOT exist there in ancient times as OLD maps of Africa confirm that area was NORTHEST AFRICA ,inabited by Africans,whom many still live there today.ALL Native Africans originated from subsahara.Many ,more truth avenues are available/
Most the Push of this comes from the discovery of a coin that was minted in a city that hannibal controlled. That depicts the face of a black african, and Hannibals fav war elephant
He was Phoenician and Amazigh so yes
Why does he need to be white or black? Berbers and native Iberians would likely not be considered either
Good point sir! Realistically we will never know and in the end he is an African which can mean anything.
I Thought Phoenicians where Semitic but I won't be supriced if he had some Amazigh blood in him do.
But back to "race", He looks brown to me like a North African does now.
@Azal Abadi do tell: who are the native iberians? Why the basques?
@Azal Abadi basques are not iberians. And you belive that all pre phoenicians people of iberia have been replace except the vasques because there language was the only to survive? I'm from iberia an have NO Spanish identity.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_Pre-Roman_peoples_of_the_Iberian_Peninsula
Isn't the desire to make Hannibal black even stronger than the desire to make him "white" or just non black? I think it is.
No
@@nodruj8681 prove it.
So him not being black automatically makes him white?
@@theunexplained2855 I did say non white. Reading is Fundamental
@@maxpolaris99ain’t no point to fight with y’all. Y’all ignore facts and call it fake news. They found a whole African lady who was a oracle in the ruins of Carthage. The simple fact is we shouldn’t be asking we’re there black people in carthage or how Hannibal Buress actually looks. We should be asking what roles did black Africans black play in their society because the evidence speaks for itself. The concept of white superiority didn’t exist. Africans we’re loved by the Greeks,then feared after the moorish invasion, then used as signs of wealth in pre 1600 Europe. There’s literally black people in every part of history. With Hannibal buress there’s a good chance he’s African or Mediterranean which back in in those times were just lighter skinned Africans that matriculated down from west Africa. Most of these so called finds and history comes from William Henry Holmes a famous archeologists and a known Eurocentric who has been accused of forgeries such as the Egyptian white lady which they did find out was a fake and many more. The history you subscribe to is one that will always try to paint Europeans or white people as superior. It’s false hoods mixed with the truth to try to push a certain agenda, which at its starting point was taking our history to make us look inept like we contributed nothing to the ancient world. Making us fit the bill of savages to be used as slaves.
Hannibal was a semitic Hamierate descendant. There was Yemenite city called Haderamout in carthage. Riddle me that. His last name is semitic ancient Arabic "Barca" which means "blessing" or "lightening" things are obviously clear here fellas.
@Ger’varis Anderson no Anderson, it's a fact.
@Ger’varis Anderson
They spoke a language nearly identical to Hebrew. The founder of the city of Carthage, Dido-Elissa, was literally a great-neice to King Ahab of Israel. Punic was a South Caanite Language, while Hebrew is a North Caanite Language. We know that the Berber groups were the main ones to mix with the Phoenicians, and even in Isolated Berber Villages today, they still are similar to modern North Africans.
This is backed up by the genetic composition of modern Tunisians. They're a majority of Berber mixed with a lesser extent of Phoenician and with around 20% being mainly Arab and European mix (though the Arab is usually a majority of that common ~20%, with the European being less than 10%.) They weren't Black nor European. They were Berber.
I Have NO Idea what the other guy is talking about though. There was no Yemeni settlements in North Africa around that time IIRC.
😂 😂 😂
@Ger’varis Anderson I'm from Yemen
@Ger’varis Anderson no it's not, it's used till today & gonna be around, stop being envious. They're not African & never will be.
Was Hannibal Barca Black?
No.
Yes thank u
Yes
Yes finally someone said it plainly
He was a pure white albino from Mars wasnt he, like all ancient people they were all white even black people, they were white too 😂😂
@@glasyalabolas4236 not an argument
The recent Origins of Sumerian Civilization vid was interesting, but this is just next level... Why not a video on his hair color next? I would feel so much better represented if it turns out to be the same as mine.
nope he was Levantine
Netflix still blackwashing history after queen cleopatra now its the turn of hannibal
His people were sea faring people who originated in Lebanon They have also been called Phoenicians, Canaanites, and Hyksos by other cultures in history. The Egyptians referred to them as “Asiatics”. Nobody has ever tried to say he was white Germanic or Nordic. He was African in the same sense Elon Musk is African.
No he was african native berber but not black from Mediterranean coast to sahara is pale berber lands blacks have nothing in these lands
@@warlordpesco2081
The ruling class in Carthage were
descended from the Phoenicians
(location of modern Lebanon)
who were Canaanites.
They married with the offspring
of the local kings/tribal leaders.
wherever they settled.
In Carthage that would have been
with the local Berbers (not sub-
Sahara Africans). The Berbers
themselves are a unique group
that since the Arab conquest has
mixed with Arabs and before
that had mixed with Canaanites,
Greeks, Italians.
@@warlordpesco2081You have black Berbers in the south and the original Berbers were black before Arab slave trade.😂
@@Speedy300 Original Berbers are not black. I descend from Gaunches who were on the Isla Canarios before Spanish and Moorish rule. Gaunches are Berbers from Norrth Africa. I have many family members buried in the Canary Islanders cemetery in Floresville, Tx.
He was black
Saying something "doesn't matter" in history is really weird to me. I for one study history because I'm interested in facts about the past. Hannibal'd skin colour doesn't matter any more or less than whether Antony or Octavian won the battle of Actium, it's just about what you're interested in.
Exactly but since it is so politically incorrect now that we're supposed to not care about historical facts if it deals with race .
if you were African you would understand why the historians of the new world try somehow to pro..ve that the black man marked history and that he was never useless but he was a Go It's about restoring history
Yea it doesn’t matter about color when the person is black lol
If it doesn't matter why did they change it
Ragnar Lothbrok was a chinese man
Up coming video: Was the German National Socialist Party a Black Power movement ?
Mussolini's facists were....
Fun fact that some neo-nazi and kkk fractions in post-ww2 USA actually allied with some "black power" movements, cause both were pro-segregation
The colour the Nazi party has chosen as theirs was brown - referring to their skin colour of course. The leader, Charlie Chaplin, was a black man. 🥳
Hannibal has a Phoenician father and a Berber mother He is a leading authoritarian leader, not a Numidian military planner, from the Berber tribes of Zenata, warrior, combatant, cavalry, semi-nomadic cavalry, in the grassy steppes and high hills, the people of horses, pride, courage and bravery.
No bro he had a lybian father his father is originated and borned in modern day lybia my friend
@@warlordpesco2081 Carthage was founded and populated by Phoenicians their language was Canaanite. This is Hannibal's ethnic group. Does it make sense to use modern ethnic groups for someone who lived 2000 years ago?
@@robertjefferson5417 lol if cathage population was canaanite why his sisters married numidian prince also hannibal married an inberian princess plus hannibal family barcides are from libya Cyrene barca city
@@warlordpesco2081 Hamilcar was probably not spanish but Carthagian . If you have a source love to see it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilcar
This bust show a caucasian man but she refuses to see it and she still made this arguement he was not caucasian, tries to dismiss berber(amazigh) ethinc cause it does not fit her black north Africa narrative. So she claimed he was just african. Great logic Kennedy!
She uses Herodotus of all people to support her case though he was never in Carthage and accuracy of his work is in question.
I really cant see how this woman can be professor on this topic as her arguement is not great.
Her final pitch is one of the worst as she gleefully claim he is not white, german, nordic or aryan but who is claming this at all.
Well the coins shows something different.
@@asheru9254 The coin is made up, you want to debunk this with the hundred millions inhabitant of North Africans today which they are very much aware of who Carthage was? You wanna debunk these facts with the very own North African scholars that study ancient history in North Africa today, that carries substantial evidence of the man named Carthage Hannibal. This is where you blacks are just too much already.
Maybe she has been programmed since childhood not to see certain obvious things, or else finds it too psychologically stressful to admit it.
@@asheru9254 this was one coin with an elephant while the majority of carthagian coins showing and giving the name to Hamilcar his father hasdrubal his brother and him all show he is phoenician white with his family member
@@aizac91 The invading COLONIZERS of the 7th century ad,who r mainly Arabs and Turks in north Africa today have NOTHING TO DO WITH AFRICAN HISTORY,CULTURE OR TECHNOLOGY,and didn't even exist in north Africa in ancient times
Okay, I wasn't expecting a definitive answer, but no answer at all? Why even call the video "Was Hannibal Barca Black?" if you aren't going to answer the question.
We did answer the question. We don’t know.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 oh well.... how about you don’t make a stupid video then?
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 This channel has been downhill for multiple pieces now... Listen to his voice, you can tell just by the way he carries himself he is a Leftist.
He is clearly showing his true colors and wants to promote Racism and Marxist Post-Modernist revisionist History.
By focusing on the RACE OF THE PERSON AND MAKING SURE TO SAY IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEIR RACE IS AS LONG AS IT IS NOT WHITE, that is RACIST... LOL....
To make it even worse, she goes on and then is saying things like "it does not matter if he was Black, we do know he was NOT WHITE, Aryan, etc."...
Well if his RACE does not matter then WHY THE FUCK MAKE THE VIDEO IN THE FIRST PLACE LOL
Post Modernism is from the School of Frankfurt, which is MARXIST in its roots...
Post Modernism and Revisionist History come from the Frankfurt School of Post-Modernism. THEY were Marxist and funded and created by Marxists...
Revisionist History is Marxist at heart. It is created by Marxists, from the Frankfurt School of Post-Modernism.
" _He {Hannibal} could be lots of things but the one thing he isn't is white because that's not a category they would have recognised_ " This is the most ignorant comment I heard today. First off, who is "_they_ " ? And secondly, if the term "white" is "not a category" then neither was "black". But where is her evidence to say otherwise? I'd certainly like to see it. And what " _lots of things_ " could Hannibal possibly be? I would like to see evidence for this as well but she never says. It is a fact that Hannibal descended from Phoenicians of the Levant and that his ancestors settled in Carthage and if were going to be logically objective, may have had some possible Berber admix. Phenotypically he looks typical of Mediterranean stock, facial hair and all. The host is appeasing a certain certain group of people feel good about themselves at the expense of historical facts and in pushing the blanket-narrative that he was "African". He may have been "African" geographically, but the problem here for racists is that he was not black African and that much is obvious. (Neither were the ancient Egyptians).
Well said, Seven. 😃
@@reillyedwards6350 Thanks! You too! :)
+1000000
Blackwashing in the Afrocentric US of A is rampant !!
Black is a skin color that conforms to the region they live..2 black people can have a baby that looks white but it doesn't change his lineage or heritage..he would still be considered black..white is the same with my statement..people wrapped up in color so much they get so out of shape..2 white people can not make a black baby but a black person can make everything in the human color spectrum but it doesn't change who they are..we adapt to the region..that is what she was saying..he was black and even if he wasn't dark black he was a shade of black..thelat is how the Mediterranean was started..thats how Asia was started..you have black indigenous Asians, Greeks,Romans everything e en in this day and age..theres no such thing as a Sub-Saharan especially during those pre-pharonic times..what difference does it makes if he was dark or light..what's she saying is he was not white but light or dark person with African heritage..there are records of blacks going into Europe..all this history is out there for you to read..all you have to do is search and study..but sorry to hit you with it but based on all the evidence he would be considered black in today's standards..
Who were the Nubians then?
If an accurate representation, the bust of Hannibal clearly demonstrates he was not a sub-Saharan African. The quantity and degree of disregard for evidence presented here at every turn staggers the imagination. It is likely Hannibal had about as much sub-Saharan African genetic heritage as Victor Mature.
Tipi Dan..u may be a plant by a bigot,but in any case ALL NATIVE AFRICANS ORIGINATED FROM SUB SAHARA AND ANCIENT NORTH,AFRICANS WERE BLACK AND BROWN AS CONFIRMED BY ALL HISTORIANS ,GREEKS AND MORE
@@matiusbond6052 Hannibal Barca was not a "native African". He was a Carthaginian descended from Phoenicians.
@@Tipi_Dan Far too many people simply don't know what RESEARCH means and are swayed by illogical,fabricated whitewashed videos,Intelligent ,knowledgable people RESEARCH AND USE COMMON SENSE..VERY OLD MAPS OF SAUDI ARABIA,lebanon,and ISREAL show those areas as NORTHEAST AFRICA,and were inhabited by AFRICANS!!!!!!! of the Nile Valley .,,the PHOENICIANS WERE EGYPTIANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The white bust of Hannibal WAS MADE BY EIROPEANS as are whitewashed videos.The M under the elephant on the Hannibal coin verifies CIRRUS,the elephant HE rode.When Africans built Carthage in 846 bc ROME didn't exist ,and Europeans were just hunter gatherers, while mid easterners were in diapors.,but u say these people swam to Africa and built Empires. SORRY BUT IGNORANCE IS NOT A VIRTUE.
@@matiusbond6052 that doesnt proove hannibal as black.
@@fabiofernandes9122 SO you say he was white,even with all the solid confirmed evidence clearly showing what he and ALL ancient Africans looked like. SORRY,but the undeniable evidence BACKSLAPS THE STUPID OUTTA YOU.
I'll save you seven minutes, NO HE WASN'T BLACK. Modern day political correctness does not change this fact.
I bet you think no great person in history was “black”, right? I guarantee you are completely ignorant of KMT, huh?
Look, I personally think we should stop calling people “white “& “black” but when fools like you actively attempt to diminish people because of a skin tone… grow up bigot.
Butthurt....
@@miamimilk genetics and art of there own time period prove they are of Caucasian add mixture /Mediterranean /semetic
She lost me with the first inaccurate sentence she said.
Let me guess you are white and believed Hannibal was white so her truth admittedly offended your false sense of reality.
@Ma1q444 let me guess, you are racist. Hannibal is a Phoenician, and the people who wrote most about him were Greek and Roman. So, with my being white and with my "white ancestors" being the ones who inform us bout Hannibal today, I'd say I know more about Hannibal than you do.
Hannibal may have been born in Africa, but he was actually a Phoenician. Phoenicians came from the Middle East (Lebanon/Syria). The Phoenicians did mix with the people of the Mediterranean such as the Greeks, Italians, and Iberians (Spain). So Hannibal had Middle Eastern/Southern European ancestry.
Almost certainly he was mainly berberid with distant Phoenician..
@@dweller9981 I don't know what race the Berbers were in ancient times, but DNA tests show that modern Berbers are a mix between MIddle Eastern, European, and Sub-Saharan African.
Most of recorded history of North Africa it's was predominantly Mediterranean cultures that have settled it Greeks, Romans, Phoenician and Arabs. Even Germanic Vandals settled it at one point.
Afrocentric Americans in particular are trying to rewrite history it as if it was predominantly sub Saharan African and anyone born in it like Hannibal and Emperor Septimius Severus, who was Roman and Arab.
every bit of evidence shows original Poenicians/Berbers as black ALL YOU TUBE VIDEOS SHOW STATUES,PAINTINGS,BIBLICAL ACCTS,,HERODOTUS,GREEKS AND MORE, ALL SHOW PHOENICIANS AS BLACK
@@jasmeetsingh5 There are actual Black Berbers real indigenous North Africans if you bothered to look.
A question we shouldn't need to ask really. He was Phoenician, i.e. middle-eastern, not African. You can tell by his facial features (and by their culture) that he wasn't black.
Job is a Israelite from Israel what is now know as the Middle East. Let’s here how Job describe himself?
Job 30:30 KJV
My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.
@@mariobanks1716 literally right before that line he stays "I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls."
What's your point?
@@mariobanks1716 phoenicians were black and it is very easy to confirm in SOCIAL MEDIA
@@davidrafferty2491 that's a metaphor. What is your point?
@@BigA678 that is EXACTLY my point
The whole thing is metaphor
Looking in the field of ancient numismatics, there is a Carthaginian coin minted and issued in Carthaginian Spain during the decade of 230-220BC before the outbreak of the second punic war (221-204 BC). " On the obverse is Hannibal portrayed as Melqarth who corresponded to the Greek god Hades. Numismatists have 2 reasons for believing that the portrait incorporates the features of a young Hannibal: First, prior to this coin, Melqarth was usually depicted as older and bearded; and second, the head displays some of Hannibal's individual features, such as his sideburns, his heavy brows, and his sharp nose. It is known that when Hieronymus, the boy king of Syracuse, allied himself with Hannibal, he grew sideburns as well, as a sign of his allegiance. The portrait wears the Laurel wreath, as was appropriate for both gods and victorious generals."
Known as the Hannibal Coin, "This Coin has no auction appearance in recent history, although an example from the famous Richard Cyril Lockett collection sold in London in 1955 for 1070 pounds."
Citation: Harlan J. Berk 100 Greatest Ancient Coins.
If he was black she would have just said so
Short answer: no.
Long answer: What is this woke historical blackwashing?
The last time I was this early the Sekelesh were still in Sicily
I'm tunisian north african
Did I look black to you
(With all my respect to black people )
As a tunisian
they aren't talking about modern day tunisia
They are talking about Carthage during the time of hannibal
@@mohamedelhediissa289 نعرف أما راهو الفينقيين جايين من الشرق الاوسط من الشام يعني وجوهم كيفنا أحنا اليوم
Carthage was Phoenician so lebanese they didn't like Berbers and didn't mix with them you are a beber
@@that_lebanese4747 We do not wait for a foreigner to tell us whether we are Carthaginian or not 😉
@@malekaltayari3936 I'm lebanese the true descendents of Phoenicians and carthaginians☺️
She kept nervously hopscotching the topic.
I thought that she explained that we will never know quite nicely.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 Not quite. I guess you could say that face is not the face of a white guy, but it's definitely not the face of a purely black person from Africa. Mixed race or middle-eastern, as I assumed everyone understood before I saw the title of your video and thought 'is that a thing'.
@@wouterdevlieger1002 the bust is irrelevant, it was sculpted over a hundred years after carthage fell. I don't think she was biased at all
I Completely disagree. He was African, and may have been black, or middle Eastern looking. She basically said just that.
@@markmorris7123 could you show me a picture of an African black man who looks remotely like that? Not African Americans, mind you. Many of them have many 'white' facial features IMO, but I understand that their likely mixed descent is a touchy subject.
Funny how most people who claim the ancient Egyptians and Carthaginians being black are African Americans, not actual Africans.
And some white Americans supporting it.
Spot On!
The same is said with cleopatra who is Greek descent.
She was even a little too hellenic. (Inbreeding)
@@Bigsmoke11001 agreed.
@@Bigsmoke11001 oof
Cleopatra was part white
She was so quick to say that he wasn’t white but straight up refused to say that he wasn’t sub-Saharan black 🤣🤦🏼♂️
She sounds as if she feels she's on trial.
They wuz kings
Hol Up
We wuz Vi-Kings
Is it me, or is it typical for Americans to be interested in classifying people as white or black? How black was Jesus, how black were the pharaohs, how black was hannibal. A lot of places from antiquity were already multicultural and multi-ethnical crossroads in their time
its a big deal but they infrequently act out their prejudices nowadays compared to other places they are some of the kindest and nicest people you'll ever meet.
The fact that they say white and black and discuss it is insane .
Whats white ? Italian white ? British white ? Iraqi white ? Under the sun or in office ?
Whats black ?west African ? Indian ? Colombian ?
If some one erased ur history ud be obsessed with it to, every point of pride with my people is attempted to be denied to us,
@ aaron rogers. Hi ! Who are your people that you refer to ? Every race and culture has heroes to be proud of ! Also villains . And it seems that the more heroes a people has , also the more villains . Also , history is factual and no one can erase that .
@@jeffreese1828 i didnt say anything that disagrees with that statement, your bringing up a point that im not arguing against
"He's not your people"
Wrong. He's a human being. He IS my people.
Learned absolutely nothing.
We know what race he was because of mutiple things, the anthropological shape of the head, the languages spoken, the art shown and the ancestry from Pheonicia. Unfortunatly she didn't really mention these things.
We have his skull??
@@thenachoandthecheeze LOL....I was shocked to hear that they do!😂
One hell of an intro!
No, that was B.A. Barracus
What this lady did is whats wrong with this world, when you can find others in this field of study, with out caged minds of false pride to give you the truth, then again THIS is what i expected from her.
Me at 3am with work in the morning: Hmm.... let's find out.
This channel used to be great but it’s slipping in to identity politics and soft headed academic bollox. It’s a real shame.
This comment be like * this channel went down hill when it started using experts.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 Nobody ever fucking said that Hannibal is white in history,in fact most of modern Italians are not even considered white,he was a olive skinned Mediterranean mutt,not white. Stop with "white supremaciy" bullshit,you won't get your woke points. You just look phatetic.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 there is nothing wrong with the channel or with the expert (exept the jewish one who always compare everything with the bible and jews, it makes me cringe 😅) but we come here for historical facts, and if hannibal was black or not is a stupid question, i don't care if he was mexican, and it is a yes or no question only. Talk about the carthaginian expeditionen into west africa instead when they met diffrent cultures that's more intressting, your subjects have started to become like fillers on a good serie, this is only a feedback don't get mad about it
@@davor8426 who ever said he was White, what People are arguing about is that he was not black, or not semetic/berber they never say he was white
@@emilbostrom3278 This "Dr" Kennedy keep proudly saying how he was not white.
I and this whole time I thought he was Chinese. Thanks Dr.
She might be though 😉
well she should say he wasn't black nor german hhh
My theory is that he was Semitic
Your theory is based on ignorance
My god, this is our expert. You don't have to be from Europe to be white! We have considered Mediterranean people and middle easterners white for many years (darker complected and not European, but more white than sub-saharan black). The Lebanese/Phoenician colonization is the most logical explanation and the one historians most agree upon.
It doesn't look like "they" out there are looking to label him white no matter what, but it does seem like new age "historians" are desperately attempting to hijack any famous monarch/general/world leader in the name of blackwashing to somehow make themselves feel better about the world. Quite apparent now that Denzel will be playing the role of Hannibal in a major movie - Cleopatra 2.0
Cry me a river.. the indigenous people of that land were indeed black Africans.. there was no term sub-Saharan 2000 years ago ago. That term was created in the 1800s by colonization to separate the black African identity from the history of North Africa. ☝🏾.. black people come in all shades of people. Yall Europeans are so desperate for African history, yall would even call Egyptians dark skinned Caucasians 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hannibal's mom was Phonecian. His father was from Tunisia & Libyan ancestry: so he was a mixture of African, Berber, Arab, & Phonecian ancestry. Hannibal was a mixture of races.
ANCIENT LIBYANS,PHOENICIANS,AND BERBERS WERE BLACK!!!
Hannibal was phoenician.
Nope Phoenicians were not black DNA has proven that @@matiusbond6052
No just Phoenician and berber
Next video “was Julius Ceaser Black ?”
"Well he could have been" would be the entire argument
Mozart and Shakespeare are now being said to have been black, along with King James of England.
@@radrook2153 This is correct. This is why Shakespeare was called "Up Start Crow". Keep researching you"ll get to the truth.
Jeremiah 16:19 (KJV)
“... the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies...” 💜
This was dope!
Lmaoo what the Carthaginians were literally Phoenician wtf
Nope the Carthaginians were a mix of Amazigh and Phoenicians. The Amazigh people of there northern part of North Africa on the mediterranean coast look mediterranean not that much different from south Europeans and levantine people.
@@a.s.4579 The Barcid family was phonecian, Hannibal's surname 'Baraq' means Thunder in Arabic.
@@crazyapeTV Nobody really knows the exact ethnicity of Hannibal. Yeah but the Phoenicians who came in North Africa started to mix with the numidians. So I suspect he had Phoenician and Amazigh ancestry (punic) I doubt he was purely phoenician. The origin of the name "Barca" could also come from a city in the north east of Libya in Cyrenaica called "Barqa" (amazigh) where probably the ancestors of Hannibal father came from.
@@a.s.4579 ALL ancient Africns belonged to the black race ,THIS QUESTION IS SO STUPID,there were no Caucasian Empires in ancient Africa.TODAY whitewashed videos are EXPOSED Hannibal's coin leaves no doubt ,what his ethnivity was,the coin showing a Caucasian was made over 100 yrs after Hannibal.ALL bodies examined in Carthage cemetaries confirmed black and brown people.
Carthage is coming from Canaanite "Cart Hadash" (New City). Hannibal (Beloved by Baal) Baal was god protector of Phonecians.
Nothing to do with Arabs or so-called "Black people" he was Cannite pre-Arab conquest era Levantine.
hannibal hired black african mahouts to drive elephants in his army, and one got on a bronze coin, so now hannibal's black. All NBA team owners are black too, and we are all native americans thanks to the sacajawea dollar
Soldiers don't get headshots on coins
@@Pouncealot2023 nope. it's a mahout. that's not even a carthaginian coin. It's from Capua, Italy. The only coins we know to have been struck directly under hannibal are from his occupation of bruttium, Italy, and they bear a female janiform head (electrum) and a regular female head (silver). Was Hannibal a chick now too? Some Numismatists think a head of melquart on silver shekel denominated coins struck in Iberia during the time of hannibal and his dad hamilcar is meant to resemble hannibal and his dad, but, others deny there is evidence for that. the statue bust shown in this video's thumbnail is the only image of hannibal known to be attributed to being him. not black. makes sense. his ancestry was completely levantine phoenician. maybe the Numidian horsemen in his army were closer to what you'd call black. they weren't carthaginian.
@@sankh4914wrong. have you looked at any ancient coins? go scroll through acsearch.net for "head of african." it's a theme going back to the dawn of ionian electrum coinage in the latest 600's, early 500's BC. I have a fairly rare electrum sixth stater of phokaia, a greek city on the west edge of turkey, which is a clearly black african head. what else is on their coins? other mythical beings. blacks were known of, exceedingly rare, and deemed as magical and special as the other things on their coins of the same time (sphinx, dog surfing on a tuna, head of the mythical silenos, roaring lion )
@@Pouncealot2023 I am not the one who attributes the statue to being of Hannibal. You are the one who attributes the face on the coin to being Hannibal. Actual people with knowledge admit we don't know what his face looked like.
@@Pouncealot2023 there was no royalty in Rome or Carthage in the 200s BC. Both were governed by a senate. Neither put actual people on their coins. "roma" is the identity of the syncretic god image on anonymous roman denarii quinarii and sestersii, before that a janiform male head of castor and pollux on silver didrachms, and a bearded head of mars on the gold asses and silver victoriatus. Carthage had a male head of melquart or female head of tanit, elephant or horse on reverse. never did either carthage put a real person on a coin and the romans didn't till in the last century BC and then, once an empire, put the emperor's head on (200 years after the 2nd punic war). look it up. ancient coins are worth your time, racial fixations of "doctors" aside
Looking forward to future videos, Was Churchill black? Was George Washington black? Was Alexander the Great black? Was Julius Caesar black?
This channel has been downhill for multiple pieces now... Listen to his voice, you can tell just by the way he carries himself he is a Leftist.
He is now going on the page and liking anything he can to make it seem like "comedy"....
EVERYONE KNOWS HE DID NOT POST THIS AS COMEDY!
HE POSTED THIS BECAUSE HE IS A RACIST LEFTIST LOL!
He is clearly showing his true colors and wants to promote Racism and Marxist Post-Modernist revisionist History.
By focusing on the RACE OF THE PERSON AND MAKING SURE TO SAY IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEIR RACE IS AS LONG AS IT IS NOT WHITE, that is RACIST... LOL....
To make it even worse, she goes on and then is saying things like "it does not matter if he was Black, we do know he was NOT WHITE, Aryan, etc."...
Well if his RACE does not matter then WHY THE FUCK MAKE THE VIDEO IN THE FIRST PLACE LOL
Post Modernism is from the School of Frankfurt, which is MARXIST in its roots...
Post Modernism and Revisionist History come from the Frankfurt School of Post-Modernism. THEY were Marxist and funded and created by Marxists...
Revisionist History is Marxist at heart. It is created by Marxists, from the Frankfurt School of Post-Modernism.
@@markheimiller2082 damn; a white people telling the truth about history for a change is a hard job I see. Butt Hurtvil is restless, you guys settle down.
The chaos of 2020 (continues) .. Who cares the ethnicity of man born hundreds of years before Christ.. HE WAS WHO HE WAS whether modern people except it or not.. If your going to fuss about someone make sure their not dust by now 🙄
@@birdbrain9625 this is more about stoping liberal evil agenda or black propaganda
@@MedjayCommander You have a video of a girl twerking, how about you just stick to that rather than try to dissect the ancient history of the "Old World" when it has been researched by countless researchers worldwide.
As soon as I saw the like to dislike ratio I already knew the answer
No, but every "historian" with a septum piercing and a chip on their shoulder the size Greenland wants him to be black.
How come they were happy to depict and call people like the Nubians and Ethiopians black? If people who were black and weren't black were interacting all the time, and the Romans according to the BBC had black noblemen all over the place...it seems that the Romans weren't as racist about skin colour as people apparently are today.
All we know is that most of the people who claim Egypt is black, Hannibal is black etc have some overriding personal and political incentive for it, and if they want to overturn accepted history they *need to do more than just claim racism* .
Extraordinary claims require *extraordinary evidence* .
Without it this is just dabbling around in dangerous waters.
Also, I would like to say that I have always viewed Hannibal as someone from the Levant resembling Canaanites. That being said, I found this conversation to be interesting and that is the truth that his skin color does not matter and in the end he is one of the greatest African Generals in our history. However, as she points out interconnectedness and populations mixing together was quite common and so this historical figure could be much darker than I had already imagined to begin with.
I also imagine Hannibal like a man from Lebanon, Syria or Palestine, because these people now live where the old Phoenicians were living.
I just unsubscribed anyways, you posted a video of a raving Leftist Lunatic who is literally just spewing Racism and nothing of Historical Facts in any way...
She literally said "it does not matter if he is black", and then turns around and just spews racism towards whites, LOL....
Why does it matter if he is white or black SHOULD be the statement...
If "it does not matter if he is black" then should it also "not matter if he is white"...?
Of course not according to Hardcore Leftists like this Racist Woman who is clearly a self-loathing RACIST towards whites...
I cannot believe you just ruined your own channel through Racism when you are supposed to be a "history" channel.
Great work on contributing towards Racism in todays Society.... Great work.... (Sarcasm obviously).....
you keep saying that" Egyptians were black" instead of "some Egyptians" , this country was a cross road and was not homogenous.
Just read Polybius about the battle of Raphia 217 BCE , when the king Ptolemee had to draft egyptian locals to fill the ranks of his army, he called them....? ...ARABS...and not Nubians...it should give you an idea of what the majority was.
The Libyans gave a dynasty to Kemet, the Koushites gave a dynasty to Kemet , the Hyksos too... a cross road i told you.
Lol was Alexander the Great also black?
🤣🤣🤣
It’s weird when people use “Semitic” as a racial category when Semitic speakers are some of the most diverse in appearance.
I literally don’t understand it lol
no he was not and neither were the ancient Egyptians
he's probably of mixed origin but mostly levantine. But the Egyptians were well know to be "black" in antiquity th-cam.com/video/YNehZDrhWSs/w-d-xo.html
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Yeah Narmer really looks wt😂😂😂😂😂😂 my dad's DNA is E1B1A which is Central African Great Lakes. 23& Me and Standford University found he was a direct descendant of Ramsees III who is also E1B1A. Egyptians look like me and modern day Somalians Eritreans Sudanese and Ethiopians NOT Arabs who are late arriving COLONIZERS.
@Ario 1 Hannibal less so. But the ancient Egyptians definitely. They did have a mixed population as Egypt became more cosmopolitan, and through invasion. But they were from a predominantly/originally black east African base. I'm using" black" as a general ethnographic base, similar to the USA being as "white" culture. There's just too much anthropological evidence that points to the interior of Africa in terms of precursor cultures, contemporary, and remnants.
@Ario 1 you saying "all" is not true. But I am aware of the DNA study show mummies being related to Syriac and turkic people in one particular area near modern-day cairo. The study doesn't mention that that area was actually formally an allotted settlement for what I believe were mercenaries from the near east. Either way, you can pick DNA from one particular area and extrapolated the whole region/civilization over time. The Rameses III study showed him to part of a haplogroup with currently highest occurrences in west and central Africa. You can readily find a snippet of the study which was highly publicized. I personally haven't check enough to find the whole paper.
@Ario 1 I'm being pretty objective here. I would same for the Carthaginian civilization. It clearly has little to no anthropological ties to interior Africa even if black Africans lived there. The cultural base was clearly Levantine with strong Greco/Roman influences. I would agree with saying Hannibal was most likely of Levantine or broadly north Mediterranean descent since there's more anthropological evidence towards that argument.
These people are supposed to be scholars? In the ancient world black people were called "Ethiopian" PERIOD. It did not matter where they were from or who they were. And this was the case throughout the Roman ages. The Romans have bust and fresco tiles that show numerous North African people, they are not black.
LMAO!!!! Really and you were there right?
That coin was made for the African rich elephant breeder and seller. Because of his wealth and service this money was made to honor him. It does not depict Hannibal.
Actually, Hannibal was Asian, Western Asian, to be exact, not African. No one ever claimed that he was a European. And the Phoenico-Canaanite ethnos from which he stemmed was Caucasoid racially, Not Negroid. Where the woman in the interview attempts to cite whiteness as a social construct, she denies the biological reality that is race that is expressed by this color metaphor.
There's no logic in this crazy womans thinking. She is trying to tell the audience to not believe what you see and cast all doubt by simply calling him an "African". She is trying to push a black racist agenda here and I can smell it a million miles away.
The Nubians were part of the Egyptian empire and they were black
@@stefanomiotti3415 You're off topic, pal. The subject here is the racial background of the Canaanite/Phoenician general Hannibal, which is Caucasoid.
Just as the black race is not restricted to Africa, the white race is not restricted to Europe.
I disagree... Hannibal was of African decent..not Asian..remote view that?
Unsubscribing because you keep brining this hack on the show
SAMA is known for constantly hosting experts.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 Cope.
Im not even going to listen to all of it, I just came to leave a comment... I can guess the content, the professor will just pussyfoot around the sensitive subject like in the case of Cleopatra, not giving a clear answer but meander on and on about the racial issues and tensions that truly came to be an issue in the last few centuries, the idea of race itself, the ambiguous ethnic and racial identities of the ancient cultures etc, rather then history of the Ancient Carthage. Leaving the conversation with both sides more upset and set in their own ( usually false ) assumptions and ideas, no consensus, just more conflict. When you try to avoid the conflict of ideas for long enough, you just make it worse.
You nailed it. This video was such a waste of time.
Would you rather her ramble on and on about how Hannibal may have been "White"?
Fuckoutta here
The question itself is plain stupid.The solid evidence is in social mmedia.WHAT people are indeginous to all of Africa? GOOGLE...PHOENICIANS 1ST black CIVILIZERS OF EUROPE.,and much more. Are polar bears indeginous to the north pole? Hannibal and all ancient Africans were obviously black.
@@matiusbond6052 yeah that totally makes sense, but only if you have zero knowledge and understanding of history, geography, science and creation of such concepts. Tell that today to millions of Northern Africans from Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Lybia, and convince them they are black. And don't even dare to say they are strictly of Arabic origin, and were thus later invaders, since the Berbers of this region are as indigenous of peoples as you can get, and they are not black. You can not just smash such diverse peoples into one group or category by force. First of all, Africa as an idea of whole and undivided continent stems from European point of view, as does Asia. There are huge differences between people from western, southern, central and eastern Asia, that is plainly obvious. And I mean, racial, physical differences. As there are between Sub-Saharan and Northern Africa. When people say Asian they rarely mean people from the Middle-East, they think of East Asians. And even that is not fair, as East Asians represent some of the most diverse and numerous peoples and languages, and its difficult to just group them together. Just like in Africa. There are clear physical characteristics in the north, and in the ones south of the Sahara. There are obviously some overlapping and mixed groups and areas, and its fair to say its a complex question that needs complex answers, but this pussyfooting around answers and questions that have been overly politicized, just because someone can get offended, does disservice to everyone!
rebbeca did say Cleopatra would be considered black,but did dance around Hannible and never mentioning thr hannibal coin,nor the number of bodies examined in Carthage confirming OBVIOUSLY BLACK PEOPLE.
Every statue and bust of him from that time period clearly shows that he wasnt black.
she's asked "Was Hannibal Barca Black?" - after a 7 minutes rant: "it doesn't matter". Well thanks Dr Kennedy .... wish i had my time back
I insist, "On the ethnicity of Hannibal Barca" would have been a better, more accurate, title for the video.
munch better lol the title is pretty click bate
"waste of time" would be an even better one.
Sorry for my English I'm Amazigh Anibal barka Never is black Carthage is Amazigh with cultural phenecian. But the people is amazigh.
Is identical old Roman is people méditerranées never black.
true
I dont think I have learned anything about Hannabal. Unsubscribe.
What if it was Hainable?
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 You need to re evaluate why people hate you.
@@stuartnicklin650 I feel like there is a misconception that I actually care.
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NExt wEEk on historY woke channel
Did Charlemagne eat BURRITOS?
This and more important questions of history.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 you do care, it is self evident in your content and your constant activity in the comment section, you are a liar.
It would have been nice to know more of her credentials when she was introduced. I had to look her up.
No, he probably looked middle Eastern since he was from north Africa
Well Carthage was a North African empire and the geneticist spencer wells proved that the Carthaginians were North African
Um that part of the so-called middle east is North East Afrika.
Phoenicians were black
@@dutch9238 seriously what have you smoked to come up with such nonsense; that Phoenicians were black?????!! Tell me ur joking
@@chimpodabananalover4031 your comment painfully shows how little you know of the racial and ethnic makeup of the ancient world
He was Semitic in features, orginally from Lebanon's Ponecians with
Mixed genes between
the local Amazigh (Berbers) and Arabic phonecian people.
He wasnt black or white.
He probably had a tan. From the 🌞
@matius bond yeah, I saw the dozens of coins bearing the image of his father and brother with distinct Semitic features and the hundreds of other coins of other nobles with unquestionable Semitic features. Or are you talking about that one single coin with no inscriptions found in Italy to be the 100% proof of Hannibal?
The white race is not restricted to Nordics or Nordic types. A study of some basic physical anthropology will reveal that. Also, skin color is not the main criteria in determining race. Bone structure and hair texture and facial features play a far more crucial role. If indeed skin color were the only criteria, then most Chinese Manchurians, Koreans and Mongolians would qualify as white. In fact, the skin of many of these North Eastern people is far whiter than the skin of many Southern and Eastern Europeans.
Her only argument is "he wasnt white" like anyone is actually trying to say that. She's about as disingenuous as it gets.
I've literally never heard anyone claim the Barcids to be caucasian...so where does her premise come from at 1:30?
I've heard her before, this is her particular shtick.
We wouldn't even have these discussions if it weren't for the africentrics stop claiming that us "white" people are trying to claim people that we aren't. You want to know what Hannibal looked like look at the people of modern North Africa claiming he looked like some from central Africa is just silly.
Actually we wouldn’t have these discussions if Eurocentrism didn’t exist. Afrocentrism is a response.
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Thank-you for responding to my post. Now to me on a personal level I never thought of Hannibal as being fair skinned or blond. I always assumed he would be of Mediterranean completion. It was not till I saw an africentric video that made wild claims of a white conspiracy to hide black history that this was drawn to my attention.
@@greatmike3120 so, I disagree with many things pushed forward by people you would label Afrocentrists (really we call them Hoteps) Afrocentrists are genuinely just great people who want African history in its proper limelight. The crazy ones are Hoteps.
In many cases the black history of North Africa in intentionally overlooked and that’s why I strive to ensure it’s not ignored.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 Two wrongs don't make a right, Nick. Saying Afrocentrism is a response to Eurocentrism doesn't, in any way, validate it, or make it less obnoxious.
Those Etruscan coins are very interesting aren’t they?😉
This question has already been answered on a DNA level.
DNA samples of ancient phonecians were examined and show European lineage.