I did it before and i found out that its completely useless, that not using the heel and toe the braking is more effective, maybe in a rwd car will be useful...
I know you're the one with a kickass car and racing and I'm not but there seems to be a problem here? Your actual brakes are what you brake with. The reason you rev match is to stabilize the car going into the gear you need. There's a very good reason professional drivers and even people like Tsuchiya rev match. It's even automated now.
if he got a lighter flywheel and forged internals its not really necessary, the rotating mass is so light u dont really need to heel toe.... altho id rather do it too
But its true, without heel-toe the braking is more constant and precise, leading to lower times, but a normal gearbox without rev matching definitelly have less life in raacing applications.
i loved my supercharged k24. it always sounded like it was going to blow up downshifting thou. so i went with a k20 and it feels like more of a road course engine to me. i have a shortblock k24z3 for sale if anyone needs one.
MikeEM1 you sir are a car nigga at heart I grew up on a Honda so Honda = my life Nissan = my brothers life We both love a good challenge On the track Especially when he is in his late model nsx and I'm in my late model civic
I don’t know why people are complaining so much I’m enjoying the content I mean yes the shifting is this and that but the car sounds good and it’s overall clean racing amongst the three keep doing what your doing man 🤙
@@NjoyMoney you dont rev match and your clutch disk wears out prematurely having to spin the engine to the current wheel speed and gear you're going for. Also less stress on the drivetrain as a proper rev match will help engage everything smoothly. $0.02
@@BP-fx3qc You are talking 2000rpm at most unless you are really slow at shifting down, clutches for the track are meant to handle way more than that. Rev matching to prevent wear was more important back in the day because gearboxes didnt have synchros. Lots of racers utilize the additional braking power from engine braking. Besides real racers powershift their car wich causes endlessly more wear than a non rev matched downshift could ever do.
I hate when people call every Honda “rice.” Honda’s can give a ton of performance for very little money. People complaining in the comments about the downshifting, but the whole build probably cost less than 20k. Parts are cheap and available and it’s not a big deal if something breaks. Great video :)
I think most people think heel and toe / rev matching is simple. It takes a lot of seat time and patience to correctly do it. People get their feelings hurt because the owner didn't rev match? ......Didn't know you built that car for him
Yes, but most of us try to help him, if he practices it and masters it, it will help a lot in lap times and in the future bc parts will last longer, that said he isn't a rookie, so I at least was expecting him to rev match
Most people think it is because it fucking is, it's not hard to blip the throttle! It literally doesn't take you any seat time, by the time you learn to drive a car you will know how to rev match. My fucking 16 year old has been driving for 2 weeks now and can rev match! It's a basic and necessary part of driving a manual car, which you clearly have never driven. Please just shut the fuck up.
@@IaintTrynaGoOutLikeBIGnPAC I'll take your comments serious when I see tour racing videos. Until then you're just a ricer who things his a pro just because you can heel toe
+Dan you really shouldn't put the entire rpm change on your clutch like that, not only that but the syncro's are taking full responsibility for slowing the gear set down with a change like that, it's the only reason the shifter is going into the next gear. A throttle blip to match the next gear is the proper method.
Im digging the lhd ek4 dash conversion is abyone else noticed this. You can tell cuz of the middle dash vent. Dont know why the usdm eks didnt come with one
You should secure your ecu better, I had a friend who had the same setup and when he went over a bump on the highway it got unplugged and he was left stranded in the middle of the road. Luckily he had enough momentum to pull to the shoulder.
Deberías empezar a hacer punta tacón, te deja mantener el control del coche mucho mejor y alargas la vida de la transmisión y del motor. Por todo lo demás muy guay el video!
Eso es por un lado por otro lado un cinturón de cuatro puntos para que lo fije más al asiento y su cuerpo se balance menos en el asiento o en su defecto una butaca con su cinturón de cuatro puntos
I love that fact that the ECU is just dangling there serving it's one purpose..run the engine. The Civic has to be one of the funniest little cars made. But they can be fast
I still love my B series!!! k series are over rated, yeah they make more hp trq. but a B series has more feeling an character IMO. oh and I've raced on tracks with k series and they have more power and I am still able to get away with a better time. driver maybe? it's not always about power!!
All of you have a point in terms of using the heel toe technique. However, each driver has different driving styles and habits which may differ on the type of race track that you're racing with. Since this track has lots of high speed corners, he has a point in using just the brake and not to heel toe shift. He can also try using left foot braking while stepping on the gas so that he can maintain the rev and the entry and exit speed on the corners of this race track. Just my opinion.
You are right, curiously i didn’t use heel and toe in this car on that track, just to concentrate better breaking to get “the timelap” in my other cars and i use it on every track, it is a habit for me but not there with my old yellow buddy, strange brake touch won’t help me to do it too.
what are you talking about? who doesn't heel toe. you gotta keep the revs up and the car in the power band. you can see the driver jerking forward everytime he just drops the clutch on a lower gear. its bad for the trans and for the clutch..
B. Son i guess all of you haters are pro drivers... blablablabla easy for you than build your own car and then race it, stop talking shit and do something with your life... nice content in your channel btw
adrimp why u getting mad? You say your focusing on better braking. How about you spend some time and practice your rev matching and save the trouble of burning your clutch or hurting your trans.
adrimp oh and FYI. I have a dedicated track dc2 that I've built for past 5 years and track few times a year. As well as my S2000. Also my brother has a K20 Eg and a KA24 79 210 Dawson that we take to the drag strip few times a year as well. Just because my you tube content is video game crap doesn't mean that's all I do with my spare time lol. Go learn to drive. Nice car tho.
awesome driving! can you give a good advice for drive shafts on a k swap? im going to use a dc2 subframe steering rack and lca with hasport mounts on a euro k20a2 and i dont know what drive shafts to make that will not fail after track use. do you have any good advice for me what the strongest combination is with oem honda parts? i dont want to deal with shafts poping out of the gearbox or blown joints. i heard the best should be ep3 shafts with b-series outer joints? does this last on hard track abuse?
Must be nice on how to do these swaps im just tryin to put a d16a8 into a 88 hatch so far ive had to convert it from dpfi to mpfi and back to obdo cause i didnt kniw better.
Nice to see professional drivers all in the comments
JDM yee i hope his skills are better than his racecars 🤪 i dont post to show my content to people like this but this is internet...
adrimp every car video I watch, it’s assholes who think they’re top mechanical engineers and professional racers, fucking annoying man.
Thank you, these commenters are rats
Amen
Tink they are all keyboard / gaming racers...
ECU was just takin hits down there 😂
Honda K series transmission for sale, low miles, slight problem with synchros.
might wanna learn to rev match instead of letting your trans act like a break unless you love replacing input shaft bearings.
I did it before and i found out that its completely useless, that not using the heel and toe the braking is more effective, maybe in a rwd car will be useful...
I know you're the one with a kickass car and racing and I'm not but there seems to be a problem here?
Your actual brakes are what you brake with. The reason you rev match is to stabilize the car going into the gear you need. There's a very good reason professional drivers and even people like Tsuchiya rev match. It's even automated now.
not only to stabilize it, also to improve trans and engine life by making the transition from one gear to another smoother.
if he got a lighter flywheel and forged internals its not really necessary, the rotating mass is so light u dont really need to heel toe.... altho id rather do it too
But its true, without heel-toe the braking is more constant and precise, leading to lower times, but a normal gearbox without rev matching definitelly have less life in raacing applications.
nice! sounds so good! just really need to bolt that ecu down haha
The ECU sliding around was one of the first things I noticed!
Not using bolts for the ecu is the latest thing in weight reduction.
If i were the gearbox of this car, i would have gone a long time ago
Its a Honda...so it won't...easily
For the punishment they take compared to some other brands, they are actually strong. Try that with a VW tranny..
I'd of left way before you.. makes me cringe hearing those changes. Poor box
@@k1ortialol, k24's have short gearing ratios.. hahaha, but I hear yah.. that's why Honda trans are sooo damn good. ;P
Abe Linkin k24s are 5 speed
I love that "floating" ECU! looks cool
Homie has to learn how to heel toe, will make his transmission last longer
Awesome!!!! Get that ECU mounted properly though haha! :)
+Daniel Silvester (dannydc2) Thanks :D yeah i should... that's not cheap hahah
DannyDC2 it looks like the ecu was the least of his worries his contacts is what needed mounted lol
adrimp get a mount from the junkyard.
Only on TH-cam will people find a way to cry about something 🤣
Duct tape would hold that ecu there.
Ahhhhh!!!! Your clutch and transmission!!!! Still pretty awesome session tho.
Good race. Nice clean lines but them downshifts...
i loved my supercharged k24. it always sounded like it was going to blow up downshifting thou. so i went with a k20 and it feels like more of a road course engine to me. i have a shortblock k24z3 for sale if anyone needs one.
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The reason the ecu isn't bolted down is simple, it acts as an active weight balance mod 🤓
Nice video 👌, glad you had balls to post bro. Great driving, Honda for life!!!
Other than the non rev-matching, good job lol.
But just watching the car jolt forward and hearing the revs late is really cringing.
master DOGE look at your subscriptions lmaooo
Looks like a blast! Can't wait to drive my k20a2 ek again once out of the shop. I love my GTR and all, but I'm missing having 3 pedals lately.
damn i see you, just tryna flex on everyone
Justin Suchit exactly
Aye he bought the cars let em flex 😂💪 I see you 👀
MikeEM1 you sir are a car nigga at heart
I grew up on a Honda so Honda = my life
Nissan = my brothers life
We both love a good challenge
On the track
Especially when he is in his late model nsx and I'm in my late model civic
10/10 nice humble brag would bang
Holy clutch and transmission. Rev match rev match rev match. This car is way to nice to not be rev matching
I don’t know why people are complaining so much I’m enjoying the content I mean yes the shifting is this and that but the car sounds good and it’s overall clean racing amongst the three keep doing what your doing man 🤙
*If your boyfriend doesn't know how to rev match when downshifting, you have a girlfriend.*
It's alright im sure he'll get better.
You dont have to rev match, its preferance
@@NjoyMoney you dont rev match and your clutch disk wears out prematurely having to spin the engine to the current wheel speed and gear you're going for. Also less stress on the drivetrain as a proper rev match will help engage everything smoothly. $0.02
@@BP-fx3qc You are talking 2000rpm at most unless you are really slow at shifting down, clutches for the track are meant to handle way more than that. Rev matching to prevent wear was more important back in the day because gearboxes didnt have synchros. Lots of racers utilize the additional braking power from engine braking. Besides real racers powershift their car wich causes endlessly more wear than a non rev matched downshift could ever do.
@@NjoyMoney lmao holy crap, ok buddy.
This is seriously cool man, looks like a blast.
Me a gustado mucho como conduces, dominas en todo momento, un saludo y sube más videos!
Sounds awsome, congrats, not a Honda Fan, but has a car nut, i love that sound.
I hate when people call every Honda “rice.” Honda’s can give a ton of performance for very little money. People complaining in the comments about the downshifting, but the whole build probably cost less than 20k. Parts are cheap and available and it’s not a big deal if something breaks. Great video :)
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So awesome to see these rides on the track, thanks for sharing , puts a smile on my face just watching
*Granny shifting not double clutching like you should.*
lmao
I think most people think heel and toe / rev matching is simple. It takes a lot of seat time and patience to correctly do it. People get their feelings hurt because the owner didn't rev match? ......Didn't know you built that car for him
Xiong Thao They drive them this way on the circuit in Japan, so im unsure what everyone’s problem is 😂😂
@@BeastFromTheEast79 that depends on the driver, watching hot version most of the professional racing car drivers heel toe
Yes, but most of us try to help him, if he practices it and masters it, it will help a lot in lap times and in the future bc parts will last longer, that said he isn't a rookie, so I at least was expecting him to rev match
Most people think it is because it fucking is, it's not hard to blip the throttle! It literally doesn't take you any seat time, by the time you learn to drive a car you will know how to rev match. My fucking 16 year old has been driving for 2 weeks now and can rev match! It's a basic and necessary part of driving a manual car, which you clearly have never driven. Please just shut the fuck up.
Lmao. Feeling hurt much buddy?
my favorite kind of race is circuit and great video.
It looks like he doesnt know how to down shift..
Carlos Castillo I bet you’re a slower driver
@@TheBb6prelude you keep defending him, is he your boyfriend?
@@TheBb6prelude smh i saw u everywhere
@@IaintTrynaGoOutLikeBIGnPAC I'll take your comments serious when I see tour racing videos. Until then you're just a ricer who things his a pro just because you can heel toe
can you rev match please this is making me cringe
they play a lot of arcade... so yeah...
played*
Riccardo Di Giulio you act as if rev matching is hard? What do you drive ?
*Dylan G* I bet he’s faster than you
@@TheBb6prelude telling him to rev match is not a diss, most people do it. I do and I thought my wife to do it. Jeez that clutch is not going to last.
Nice driving! Makes me want to get an ek so badly and finally do my dream build
Nice to see such good looking track cars being used on the track
BRAVE racing that car without a cage.. VERY BRAVE
That guy in the yellow civic was pretty persistent. He FINALLY did pass the other two & keep the lead👍👍👍👍👍👍
those downshifts :/
Francisco Vasquez those boring coments :/
They're made to downshift like that bro. Engine braking a honda.. nothing new.
who the hell just drops the clutch like that without rev matching? you cant drive for shit if you cant heel toe.. let alone rev match.
B. Son lol he wasnt rev matching. #ew
+Dan you really shouldn't put the entire rpm change on your clutch like that, not only that but the syncro's are taking full responsibility for slowing the gear set down with a change like that, it's the only reason the shifter is going into the next gear. A throttle blip to match the next gear is the proper method.
He stayed on his lines man. Gotta appreciate that pass. Good stuff
Revmatch for the love of God
I want a hatchback civic now, after I build my AE86 I'm gonna build one like yours man, it looks like fun haha.
Everytime this dude downsshifts without heel-toe is wearing out his clutch AND his piston rings... wow
It's just so beautiful to see this
Cool video , needs a shift light and the ECU mounted better 👍
My car is civic ef9 b16b big vtec type R.. Ilove my carr... Mmmuahhhh from malaysia
This is dope af ! Makes we want to build a track carlol
Billy Gomez this is more of a kanjo build .
Maybe it needs some revmatching ok .... but it sure seems like that was alot of fun man 👍
And made heel and toe too 👍🏻
Im digging the lhd ek4 dash conversion is abyone else noticed this. You can tell cuz of the middle dash vent. Dont know why the usdm eks didnt come with one
remember to always wear your hoodies to the race, with no gloves and no roll cage
Gustavo Mello at least he's off the public street with all those below the speed limit slowies
at least now he only endangers himself, I guess
For everybody saying to heel toe shift that’s shit isn’t easy not everyone’s ankles are built like that mine included 😂🤷🏾♂️
You should secure your ecu better, I had a friend who had the same setup and when he went over a bump on the highway it got unplugged and he was left stranded in the middle of the road. Luckily he had enough momentum to pull to the shoulder.
GAWWWWHHHHHHH THAT LOOKS LIKE SOOO MUCH FUNNN!!!!
How come you don't rev match when you downshift?
nice race .... where is this track ? look epic
Nice race man keep practicing you will be a great driver
Deberías empezar a hacer punta tacón, te deja mantener el control del coche mucho mejor y alargas la vida de la transmisión y del motor. Por todo lo demás muy guay el video!
Eso es por un lado por otro lado un cinturón de cuatro puntos para que lo fije más al asiento y su cuerpo se balance menos en el asiento o en su defecto una butaca con su cinturón de cuatro puntos
i loved my supercharged k24 that cool
Thanks for upload !
Awesome good job
Lmao does the guys contact fall out lol?
I need me a track Honda, I’d love to build my own version of TokyoJoe
beautiful driving
What final drive and size of tires yoiu used?
I thought the car would definitely spin out at those speeds with not rev matching lol ..
Being that it is FWD and doesn't have a lot of power it won't spin but it'll understeer a bit as it locks the front tires up
Looks soooo fun. car sounds great and nice driving
are you some kind of idiot?
Bro that damn engine is on fire I know that engine hot in the yellow car
I had to leave I can’t take the down shifting without rev matching it
Sound awful.
I love that fact that the ECU is just dangling there serving it's one purpose..run the engine.
The Civic has to be one of the funniest little cars made. But they can be fast
Looks like a lot of fun but those eg's need a little more suspension work. Last thing who dislikes a video like this?
eg6gsr haters gonna hate😅
eg6gsr #haters does dislike... I got a 99ek with a B16a2 😃lot of fun
I still love my B series!!! k series are over rated, yeah they make more hp trq. but a B series has more feeling an character IMO. oh and I've raced on tracks with k series and they have more power and I am still able to get away with a better time. driver maybe? it's not always about power!!
kris o I run a k20z3 & your rite
kris o same b16a2, b16b and b18c4 are amazing. 1.6 more revvy
Not true, k20 can reach 10-11k rpm with some pistons, springs and retainers
Austin Ashe so can B series you fool
Only poor ppl hate K series
Wow that's an awesome circuit...
Given a chance to build a car: DRIFT or TRACK or DRAG what would you choose?
Awesome video 💥
All of you have a point in terms of using the heel toe technique. However, each driver has different driving styles and habits which may differ on the type of race track that you're racing with. Since this track has lots of high speed corners, he has a point in using just the brake and not to heel toe shift. He can also try using left foot braking while stepping on the gas so that he can maintain the rev and the entry and exit speed on the corners of this race track. Just my opinion.
You are right, curiously i didn’t use heel and toe in this car on that track, just to concentrate better breaking to get “the timelap” in my other cars and i use it on every track, it is a habit for me but not there with my old yellow buddy, strange brake touch won’t help me to do it too.
what are you talking about? who doesn't heel toe. you gotta keep the revs up and the car in the power band. you can see the driver jerking forward everytime he just drops the clutch on a lower gear. its bad for the trans and for the clutch..
B. Son i guess all of you haters are pro drivers... blablablabla easy for you than build your own car and then race it, stop talking shit and do something with your life... nice content in your channel btw
adrimp why u getting mad? You say your focusing on better braking. How about you spend some time and practice your rev matching and save the trouble of burning your clutch or hurting your trans.
adrimp oh and FYI. I have a dedicated track dc2 that I've built for past 5 years and track few times a year. As well as my S2000. Also my brother has a K20 Eg and a KA24 79 210 Dawson that we take to the drag strip few times a year as well. Just because my you tube content is video game crap doesn't mean that's all I do with my spare time lol. Go learn to drive. Nice car tho.
awesome driving! can you give a good advice for drive shafts on a k swap? im going to use a dc2 subframe steering rack and lca with hasport mounts on a euro k20a2 and i dont know what drive shafts to make that will not fail after track use. do you have any good advice for me what the strongest combination is with oem honda parts? i dont want to deal with shafts poping out of the gearbox or blown joints. i heard the best should be ep3 shafts with b-series outer joints? does this last on hard track abuse?
I was here to comment about the ecu... I then seen everyone has told you already😂
Must be nice on how to do these swaps im just tryin to put a d16a8 into a 88 hatch so far ive had to convert it from dpfi to mpfi and back to obdo cause i didnt kniw better.
where can I find events like this for my honda?
That Hondata has got you 'moving'! Haha
Would expected a k24 frank to do better, makes me wonder if i should just went k20 instead but i haven't had mine on track yet (Y).
You can brake way later heel and toeing.
OUCH!! This is very painful to listen to. You really need to rev match by using the heel and toe technique. Damn!
Sick track where is it? The no heel toe is pretty painful to watch though
Very nice where are you guys at?
How much does it cost to set a civic up like that it seems like a lot of fun.
Your downshifts are a bit early on turns other than that, that's mint bro
awsome driving :)
Sick madness RUN!!!! Nice
Every time the downshift happened my butthole puckered haha! No lie!
Tht was sick dude
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Learn how to rev match tho broddie 🤙🏼 , but looks fun af
Do the Rev match downshift, bro...
Music to my ears!
remember kids, double clutching is your friend.
Mussh Wins sorry but i cant accept criticism of a guy that are using a gear knob like that... lol
and remember kids,
its clutch in shift neutral
clutch out and match revs
clutch in and find your desired gear.
rinse and repeat!
Mussh Wins ew double clutching just slows you down
Double clutching is very hard at those revs in a honda. The revs fall to quick. Maybe in a muscle car
@@nancyblanchard9175
You clearly don't understand the concept of rev matching.
molt molt bon vídeo... llastima de la lentilla jajaja
Nice to see some guys on track with their cars and not on the street. I love swapped Hondas. But was that a 1st gear downshift without rev matching?
Evan Lewis noo its third!! I didnt even use the second gear
Whew! Haha. Where is this road course?
Ouch those downshifts are killing me! Ooh, another one, ow...
WAIT WAIT WAIT....is the roof really moves or its just the camera?!?!?!
Do you even race bro?
Looked like fun. This is what Honda was made for, not drag racing. Just saying.
Awesome stuff
Nice video! Sharing your track exp