Canadian here from Niagara region. The store was mainly a retail store with figures, titles, random memorabilia. There wasn't a restaurant as it was attached to a Rainforest Cafe. It was hugely popular and had Trish, Edge and I think Foley for the opening and random events. The drop ride was the Piledriver and it was AWESOME.
Considering the competition they put on was Austin vs. Kane in 1998, Triple H vs. Cactus Jack in 1997 at MSG, and Undertaker vs. Jeff Hardy earlier that year... That 10th Anniversary Show was basically "the first five or six years was utter garbage and nothing good happened until January 1998".
I dont even watch anymore and I still think about that match from time to time. One of my favorite Kane matches. Hell, one of my favorite matches in general. Kane was my #1. I stopped watching a little after he took the mask off, around the mid/end of his Snitsky rivalry.
@@restricttheopennotes I stopped watching around January of 2014 but I was very young and remember this TLC and TLC 3 very well still brings good memories
1. I'd love to hear more discussion on bra & panties match tactics. 2. Pulse's confusion at the rules to the Bra & Panties Paddle on a Pole Match was hilarious.
1. Always go for hurricanranas and such. A. Always go for finishers that leave yourself open to disrobing counters. B. Always wear clothing that is easy to get off. C. Steamroll the ref.
For legit though? Go commando. Can't get stripped to your bra and panties if you don't have any. Or, you have to get stripped, *then* the opponent has to put them on you, at least. ... REVERSE BRA AND PANTIES MATCH GG
The WWE store in Niagara Falls is kind of still there it’s just not called the WWE Store but you can still get all the random WWE stuff there (At least pre pandemic) the restaurant is just a Rainforest Café
Just for fun, here's what TNA was doing this week, on their 16th weekly PPV, without context and with much confusion: - Syxx-Pac, BG James, and Curt Hennig beat Jeff Jarrett, Brian Lawler and Ron Killings - America's Most Wanted retained the NWA Tag Titles against The Spanish Announce Team - Ace Steel beats Tony Mamaluke, Low-Ki and Kid Kash in a X Division #1 Contender's 15 Minute Ironman Match, 2:1:1:1 - Chris and Rick Michaels beat Ron Harris and Sonny Siaki in an NWA Tag Title contender's match - Lo-Ki beats Ace Steel for his X Division contendership by DQ - Syxx-Pac wins the vacant X Division Title in a ladder match also involving Ace Steel, the Spanish Announce Team, Kid Kash, Tony Mamaluke and AJ Styles
I can't stress enough how much I love this podcast! I've been watching NewLegacyInc since 2013 and I also used to watch CMPuls3 years ago. It's cool to see John Blud, CMPuls3 and TonyPizzaGuy on the same podcast! The retro reviews of old WWE Shows are my favorite episodes to watch on this podcast! Hope we get this channel to 100k Subscribers because this channel is underrated as hell. Keep up the great work bois👊 Edit: it would be cool if you guys reviewed old WWE/WWF/ECW/WCW PPVs
I remember this really well. I was a HUGE Kane mark as a kid and I remember watching this and loving the fuck out of it. One of my favourite matches of all time
1:49:30 Jawnny is referring to Christian vs Jericho at Unforgiven 2004. The only reason I remember this is i was at this show in the second row. Great match!
I heard a story about Bubba and his concussion after the bulldog in the TLC, he kept forgetting one his relatives had died, and it kept hitting him over and over again because he thought that relative was coming to pick him up and they kept telling him that person had died.....
I’ve went back every few months to watch the tlc since wwe has kept it up forever but then explaining each spot and how on first watch it’s the most brutal spots for tag belts and was taken so seriously makes me immediately want to go watch it again for the 100th time. Both that and the smack down one are incredibly underrated!
Hey I got my purple Hardy logo necklace at the WWE Store on Clifton Hill 😂 I remember when it finally closed, the Piledriver was the first to go, just a giant drop ride never in use. But the inside was so cool, all the legit replica heavy ass belts hanging everywhere. Merch and some superstars would come for signings.
I remember watching on Demand WWE growing up, they had usually 3 matches every couple of weeks (if they ever updated them). Matches I can remember (from around 2009) on the channel were an Andre match from the 80’s and the GAB 4-way U.S. title match from ‘04. Memory unlocked 🔓
I think WWE 24/7 on demmand started in mid 06 to 2014 it was cause they just went to USA and if they didn't get a new tv deal they have the 24/7 channel on the side in case if they didn't get picked up again. And that channel was barely carried by a few cable providers but from the footage I seen they kept stuff the same but with the ECW footage they put the blade logo on the side which was neat to see.
It was the bulldog that concussed bubba btw, he confirmed it on talk is Jericho I believe. Jericho told him to climb the ladder later and bubba replied “how do you climb a ladder?” Also when he was supposed to hit the bubba bomb off the ladder, he asked Jericho how to do it, he was so fucked he didn’t even know how to do his own move.
I Remember Watching this episode of Raw On TNN live as it aired and The Raw Roulette concept was awesome the Paddle on A Pole Match Between Stacy Keibler And Trish Stratus was awesome and I'm kinda surprised WWE Did Pole matches even after Vince Russo Left in 1999.
1:30:24 “I can be the first man to hold the Tag Team, the IC, and the World Title at the same time. I know I can do it, AND ALL MY KANENITES KNOW I CAN DO IT!” - Kane 2002😂
The bubba concussion 1:42:40 he talked about on his podcast when he had Jericho on as a guest, talking about how he was fucked and Jericho had to talk him through the rest of the match.
Also, when they brought Russo back one of the stories was he knew nothing about the current storylines, wanted nothing but tournaments and asked if HHH and Jericho had ever had a match when that was the Wrestlemania main event.....that is a Prichard story though so......
@@Two-ToneMoonStone Apparently he did repitch the invasion, but Russo quit because he wanted to come work on the road and WWE just wanted him to work from home as a consultant. Probably because they didn't want him trying to become an onscreen character again.
This is my favorite episode of Raw of all time I love this episode so fucking much I remember watching it as a kid and it has become a tradition for me every October 7th I watch this episode of Raw
I think the November 2, 1998 episode of Raw needs to be talked about. Specifically a very visibly drunk "Real Man's Man" Steven Regal cutting a promo word for word and having a match against Goldust😂
57:22: Couldn't find the match between Bubba & Lance Storm but I did find this match. RVD & Bubba vs Flair & HHH.... th-cam.com/video/IMlG1QhQ5HA/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=OldSchooLWrestLing At 8:10 Bubba goes to powerbomb HHH through the table and his arm gives out.
Ok what the fuck is a HLA match they keep talking about? Also Tony's cam cutting out during the Trish Stacy match discussion was a little suspect,I guess the pizza man had to make a delivery lol.
Think it was either 98/99 or 2000. He acknowledged it during an episode of tv which I think was smack down, which makes it no earlier than 99 but it also was one of the catalysts of the creation of the right to censor since the real life version, the parents television council spearheaded the campaign to get the doll removed. Which could put it later toward early 2000. And just for semantics sake, as you well probably know, it was only claimed by the ptc to be a “woman’s severed head” anyone with a passing knowledge of the character knew it was a made up mannequin head the “psychotic” snow believed spoke to him
6 TLC matches - approximately 21% - have had no sort of championship stakes: TLC 13 saw the Shield vs. Team Hell No & Ryback at TLC 2012. TLC 16, better known as WeeLC at Extreme Rules 2014. TLC 17 saw Bray Wyatt vs. Dean Ambrose at TLC 2014. TLC 20 saw Ambrose/Rollins of the Shield & Kurt Angle vs. The Miz, Braun Strowman, Kane & The Bar at TLC 2017. TLC 22 saw Braun Strowman vs. Baron Corbin with Title Shot/GM Position implications at TLC 2018. TLC 24 saw King Corbin vs. Roman Reigns at TLC 2019.
The problem with most of the forgotten great matches is simple, its not on PPV. Thats the biggest argument for why they need to save it for PPV. For all the endless praise, people tuned out great matches on weekly shows and only remembered the segments years later. PPV is where great matches are remembered.
Seriously. The Street Profits vs The Usos on RAW last week was better than most of the Wrestlemania matches but everyone will forget about it because it was just a main event of RAW.
@@TripleFourSC Yup, same argument for the AEW matches tbh. How many good or great matches that aired on the weekly shows would people actually remember years from now? Definitely not gonna be a lot.
Houston Harlem hippopotamus hangover rules so much. One of the few top ropes in SD shut your mouth that had an actual landing animation. Less than 10 i think swanton Benoit butt (ew) 5 ⭐ frig splash and the Houston hangover
Cages also keep people out... This is right after swerve hangman that after swerve only beating hangman with outside help but this is unsanctioned so it doesn't really count but it does it's just beautiful fuck you AEW doesn't tell stories
Im gonna um actually about fucking paddle on a pole smh....but um actually in torrie wilson vs. Candace michelles paddle on a pole match is was whoever grabs the paddle wins and then paddles the opponent. So it really should have been once your opponent is stripped THEN you can grab the paddle then you win
As usual... James is just saying things and not knowing anything about Vinny Ru... 😏 WWE wanted Vince Russo to be "patient zero" for COVID and stay home and work from his lil hole in the basement but Russo was like "No Bro, I gotta go to work Bro...I can't stay home and not be around da boys Bro..."
"10 years ago you killed her. What? When he was the dentist?!"
God, that broke me man. Lmao
1:57:27 😂
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Canadian here from Niagara region. The store was mainly a retail store with figures, titles, random memorabilia. There wasn't a restaurant as it was attached to a Rainforest Cafe. It was hugely popular and had Trish, Edge and I think Foley for the opening and random events. The drop ride was the Piledriver and it was AWESOME.
Was it on the Canadian side or the American side?
@@reaper3976 Canadian!
@@christophergerics ah, neat!
Ah that seminal Canadian, Mick Foley :)
Ya went on the tombstone as kid was fun as fuck especially seeing the falls
Fun fact TLC 4 was voted Raw match of the decade in January 03.
Considering the competition they put on was Austin vs. Kane in 1998, Triple H vs. Cactus Jack in 1997 at MSG, and Undertaker vs. Jeff Hardy earlier that year...
That 10th Anniversary Show was basically "the first five or six years was utter garbage and nothing good happened until January 1998".
@@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 still cool though. I don't know out of those matches listed which I would've picked
I dont even watch anymore and I still think about that match from time to time. One of my favorite Kane matches. Hell, one of my favorite matches in general. Kane was my #1. I stopped watching a little after he took the mask off, around the mid/end of his Snitsky rivalry.
@@restricttheopennotes I stopped watching around January of 2014 but I was very young and remember this TLC and TLC 3 very well still brings good memories
@@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819shout to Jeff having 2 matches in a year nominated for match of the decade only to get fired less than 5 months later
“The boys are back in tooowwwwnnn”
The last thing I expected was an extended conversation about Rumble Roses
"WHAT IF IT AIN'T PUPPIES?!" - JR
1:23:16😂
What if it's THE PERVS?!
Stone cold drunk at a fozzy concert sounds like a fucking fever dream but also so awesome
I could have listened to the Stone Cold impression singing Fozzy songs for like ten more minutes.
I wanna hear Stone Cold sing Judas
21:21 21:50 23:17😂
@@kenchi618you can listen to the Jim Ross impression singing Judas from the all out 2021 highlights from newLEGACYinc😂
1. I'd love to hear more discussion on bra & panties match tactics.
2. Pulse's confusion at the rules to the Bra & Panties Paddle on a Pole Match was hilarious.
1. Always go for hurricanranas and such.
A. Always go for finishers that leave yourself open to disrobing counters.
B. Always wear clothing that is easy to get off.
C. Steamroll the ref.
For legit though?
Go commando.
Can't get stripped to your bra and panties if you don't have any. Or, you have to get stripped, *then* the opponent has to put them on you, at least.
...
REVERSE BRA AND PANTIES MATCH GG
...
Duct tape over the bra/panties.
The WWE store in Niagara Falls is kind of still there it’s just not called the WWE Store but you can still get all the random WWE stuff there (At least pre pandemic) the restaurant is just a Rainforest Café
Just for fun, here's what TNA was doing this week, on their 16th weekly PPV, without context and with much confusion:
- Syxx-Pac, BG James, and Curt Hennig beat Jeff Jarrett, Brian Lawler and Ron Killings
- America's Most Wanted retained the NWA Tag Titles against The Spanish Announce Team
- Ace Steel beats Tony Mamaluke, Low-Ki and Kid Kash in a X Division #1 Contender's 15 Minute Ironman Match, 2:1:1:1
- Chris and Rick Michaels beat Ron Harris and Sonny Siaki in an NWA Tag Title contender's match
- Lo-Ki beats Ace Steel for his X Division contendership by DQ
- Syxx-Pac wins the vacant X Division Title in a ladder match also involving Ace Steel, the Spanish Announce Team, Kid Kash, Tony Mamaluke and AJ Styles
Hold up, the Spanish announce team were in a match? This is some fuckery we need the boys to analyse
@@Math_Yeww Not quite lol But that's why this is so much better without the context
@@Math_Yeww lol just a Spanish team called the S. A. Ts or Spanish announce team. Though it's TNA and I wouldn't have put it past them.
Syxx-Pac is the greatest name in the history of Professional Wrestling. Waltman must've chuffin the spleef when he came up with that one lmfao
Two hours of the Deadlock bois? That’s awesome.
I can't stress enough how much I love this podcast! I've been watching NewLegacyInc since 2013 and I also used to watch CMPuls3 years ago. It's cool to see John Blud, CMPuls3 and TonyPizzaGuy on the same podcast! The retro reviews of old WWE Shows are my favorite episodes to watch on this podcast! Hope we get this channel to 100k Subscribers because this channel is underrated as hell. Keep up the great work bois👊
Edit: it would be cool if you guys reviewed old WWE/WWF/ECW/WCW PPVs
Tony's camera going out during the bra and panties match talk is a lil suspect.
I remember this really well. I was a HUGE Kane mark as a kid and I remember watching this and loving the fuck out of it. One of my favourite matches of all time
And now you know being a Kane fan you were actually a CM Punk fan without realising it.
@@Math_Yeww 🤡
1:49:30 Jawnny is referring to Christian vs Jericho at Unforgiven 2004. The only reason I remember this is i was at this show in the second row. Great match!
Nice I’m actually from Portland, Oregon (where it was live)
I wasn’t born until 06 but I still have sentimental feelings towards that match
I went to a post-Raw Fozzy concert in February 2003. It's pretty much how Tony described it.
I heard a story about Bubba and his concussion after the bulldog in the TLC, he kept forgetting one his relatives had died, and it kept hitting him over and over again because he thought that relative was coming to pick him up and they kept telling him that person had died.....
At the end of the Regal vs Golddust match JR said (about Regal) “ That woman is so ugly, if all women looked like that I’d change teams.”
Talkin about D'Lo, he was at a local charity show in my hometown a few years back. Dude still had it in the ring. Super nice dude, funny as hell.
The boys upload, instant like.
“I killed that guy” -Chris jericho
I did not click this expecting that main event. It's a good day.
I’ve went back every few months to watch the tlc since wwe has kept it up forever but then explaining each spot and how on first watch it’s the most brutal spots for tag belts and was taken so seriously makes me immediately want to go watch it again for the 100th time. Both that and the smack down one are incredibly underrated!
Kane was so over around this time, he should have definitely won the championship.
Hey I got my purple Hardy logo necklace at the WWE Store on Clifton Hill 😂 I remember when it finally closed, the Piledriver was the first to go, just a giant drop ride never in use. But the inside was so cool, all the legit replica heavy ass belts hanging everywhere. Merch and some superstars would come for signings.
So fun fact benoit signed the wall at Niagara falls and they scratched it out as soon as everything came out
The Regal Face, otherwise known as "Being Besmirched" 😏
I remember watching on Demand WWE growing up, they had usually 3 matches every couple of weeks (if they ever updated them). Matches I can remember (from around 2009) on the channel were an Andre match from the 80’s and the GAB 4-way U.S. title match from ‘04. Memory unlocked 🔓
I think WWE 24/7 on demmand started in mid 06 to 2014 it was cause they just went to USA and if they didn't get a new tv deal they have the 24/7 channel on the side in case if they didn't get picked up again. And that channel was barely carried by a few cable providers but from the footage I seen they kept stuff the same but with the ECW footage they put the blade logo on the side which was neat to see.
Vince had been planning his durag ascension since 2002, amazing
16:28 😂😂we’re on the moon! 😂
It was the bulldog that concussed bubba btw, he confirmed it on talk is Jericho I believe. Jericho told him to climb the ladder later and bubba replied “how do you climb a ladder?” Also when he was supposed to hit the bubba bomb off the ladder, he asked Jericho how to do it, he was so fucked he didn’t even know how to do his own move.
I'm pretty sure TLC IV won Match of the Decade at the Raw 10th Anniversary Awards.
I Remember Watching this episode of Raw On TNN live as it aired and The Raw Roulette concept was awesome the Paddle on A Pole Match Between Stacy Keibler And Trish Stratus was awesome and I'm kinda surprised WWE Did Pole matches even after Vince Russo Left in 1999.
1:30:24 “I can be the first man to hold the Tag Team, the IC, and the World Title at the same time. I know I can do it, AND ALL MY KANENITES KNOW I CAN DO IT!”
- Kane 2002😂
I thought I vaguely remember reading that Al Snow stopped using head because of some backlash over head coming with an Al Snow action figure.
I always changed the channel during B&P matches. I was worried my parents would walk in and ask questions my 8-10 year old self couldn't answer.
The bubba concussion 1:42:40 he talked about on his podcast when he had Jericho on as a guest, talking about how he was fucked and Jericho had to talk him through the rest of the match.
1:28:12 to piss Johnny off
Also, when they brought Russo back one of the stories was he knew nothing about the current storylines, wanted nothing but tournaments and asked if HHH and Jericho had ever had a match when that was the Wrestlemania main event.....that is a Prichard story though so......
I thought the story was that he repitched the invasion angle and Vince just stared at him, thanked Russo, and then they never called him again
@@Two-ToneMoonStone Apparently he did repitch the invasion, but Russo quit because he wanted to come work on the road and WWE just wanted him to work from home as a consultant. Probably because they didn't want him trying to become an onscreen character again.
I had the Raw 10th Anniversary special disc and this was a bonus match. One of my favorite car crashes
Big show was a car salesman when he met hogan
24:49 you know what Tony? Says Tony 😂😂😂😂
I love how they are so surprised by the fact that there was, indeed,
*_actually a time when Al Snow was over_* lmfao
That Jericho bump Tony was talking about was in the JeriShow vs DX match at TLC 2009
This is my favorite episode of Raw of all time I love this episode so fucking much I remember watching it as a kid and it has become a tradition for me every October 7th I watch this episode of Raw
Was this the same Raw episode the nL boys watched on the nL archives channel? That episode rocked.
Nah they watched the 2003 one. I remember there being a Loser Gets Fired Capture the Midget match with Hurricane and Rosey
I think the November 2, 1998 episode of Raw needs to be talked about. Specifically a very visibly drunk "Real Man's Man" Steven Regal cutting a promo word for word and having a match against Goldust😂
57:22: Couldn't find the match between Bubba & Lance Storm but I did find this match. RVD & Bubba vs Flair & HHH....
th-cam.com/video/IMlG1QhQ5HA/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=OldSchooLWrestLing
At 8:10 Bubba goes to powerbomb HHH through the table and his arm gives out.
1:32:21 "And now it's time for the MAIN EVENT"
Dude that Danger at the Door D'lo theme goes haaarrd.
Respectfully, OH HELLLLLLL YEAHHHHHHHHH
According to Bubba Ray, the spot that fucked him up big time was the bulldog. He said to Jericho "What the fuck man you fucking spiked me" lmao
Love this show!
One day we’ll get the coal miner’s glove..
0:14 - 0:17 I told you johnny I would find the time stamp 100% confirmed
I can’t believe the closest thing we got to an HLA match was between Regal and Goldust. I’m not complaining however I loved the match.
Best RAW ever! Watching a ladder match live is totally different. Throw in all the other matches.
It was in Vegas! I was there
Ok what the fuck is a HLA match they keep talking about? Also Tony's cam cutting out during the Trish Stacy match discussion was a little suspect,I guess the pizza man had to make a delivery lol.
HLA = Hot Lesbian Action
@@ToruKun1 Thank you very much for clearing that up for me.
Y'all should cover the first WWE branded show.
Jericho said Mongo McQueen was the lead of Fozzy because he didn't want people to know that it was actually Luther
You need to play Rumble Roses 2 that has a wwe diva you fancy.
Re: Al Snow, when was the backlash around his figure having a severed head?
Think it was either 98/99 or 2000. He acknowledged it during an episode of tv which I think was smack down, which makes it no earlier than 99 but it also was one of the catalysts of the creation of the right to censor since the real life version, the parents television council spearheaded the campaign to get the doll removed. Which could put it later toward early 2000.
And just for semantics sake, as you well probably know, it was only claimed by the ptc to be a “woman’s severed head” anyone with a passing knowledge of the character knew it was a made up mannequin head the “psychotic” snow believed spoke to him
6 TLC matches - approximately 21% - have had no sort of championship stakes:
TLC 13 saw the Shield vs. Team Hell No & Ryback at TLC 2012.
TLC 16, better known as WeeLC at Extreme Rules 2014.
TLC 17 saw Bray Wyatt vs. Dean Ambrose at TLC 2014.
TLC 20 saw Ambrose/Rollins of the Shield & Kurt Angle vs. The Miz, Braun Strowman, Kane & The Bar at TLC 2017.
TLC 22 saw Braun Strowman vs. Baron Corbin with Title Shot/GM Position implications at TLC 2018.
TLC 24 saw King Corbin vs. Roman Reigns at TLC 2019.
Here the DEADLOCK trio shitting on Normal Kane, but meanwhile with the OSW boys they shit on Biker Taker. We need OSW vs. DEADLOCK. 😂
1:15:57 Tony jumpscare
12:50
DPW should run a Bra & Panties/Paddle on a pole match, Andrew Everett vs James
The problem with most of the forgotten great matches is simple, its not on PPV. Thats the biggest argument for why they need to save it for PPV. For all the endless praise, people tuned out great matches on weekly shows and only remembered the segments years later. PPV is where great matches are remembered.
Seriously. The Street Profits vs The Usos on RAW last week was better than most of the Wrestlemania matches but everyone will forget about it because it was just a main event of RAW.
@@TripleFourSC Yup, same argument for the AEW matches tbh. How many good or great matches that aired on the weekly shows would people actually remember years from now? Definitely not gonna be a lot.
Who's your favorite mash up wrestler?
I like GoldbergDust, Dwayne The Stone Cold Johnson and The UnderTajiri.
1:55:44 the Katie Vick stuff😂
Houston Harlem hippopotamus hangover rules so much. One of the few top ropes in SD shut your mouth that had an actual landing animation. Less than 10 i think swanton Benoit butt (ew) 5 ⭐ frig splash and the Houston hangover
WWE was very lucky that Randy Orton became one of the GOATs because if he was anything less, he would be an all-time letdown
tlc was amazing I loved the 4th one
Who would willingly mocap any spike D. bump??????
Roulette Raw was great. Also Eric Bischoff never gets the credit he deserves behind the scenes or in front of a camera.
He didn’t do anything behind the scenes in wwe. He was just on camera talent
Cages also keep people out... This is right after swerve hangman that after swerve only beating hangman with outside help but this is unsanctioned so it doesn't really count but it does it's just beautiful fuck you AEW doesn't tell stories
21:30 😂😂😂
Just goes to show that back then, mainstream wrestling wasn’t cool anymore. 2002 was the rise of indy wrestling.
Im gonna um actually about fucking paddle on a pole smh....but um actually in torrie wilson vs. Candace michelles paddle on a pole match is was whoever grabs the paddle wins and then paddles the opponent. So it really should have been once your opponent is stripped THEN you can grab the paddle then you win
WWE has TLC 4 free on there TH-cam
47:00 tony with the nose twitch😂
As usual... James is just saying things and not knowing anything about Vinny Ru... 😏 WWE wanted Vince Russo to be "patient zero" for COVID and stay home and work from his lil hole in the basement but Russo was like "No Bro, I gotta go to work Bro...I can't stay home and not be around da boys Bro..."
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Never knew Smackdown Records put out a Meshuggah song
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