Why do people keep doubting if Demar is a star LMFAO man was averaging 24 a game, driving basically their entire offence, he is most definitely a star.
Bulls fan speaking: he raises any team’s floor, but doesn’t raise the ceiling much higher. Bulls have given him the green light the last 3 years, esp the last 2 with Lonzo going down and Lavine being in and out of the lineup. Sure, he’s put up 24-27, but there’s more beneficial ways to put up those numbers if you’re actually spacing the floor. Has great footwork and moves like Kobe in his later years, has been a good locker room guy, but I’m glad to see him go…even if we got pennies back on the dollar, just shows to prove how dry the market was and how negligent the bulls FO was to deal at the deadline.
@@rileyhawkins4789 He could have been a top 3 player IF he chose to take 3s more. But he doesn't purely out of spite, hes a great 3 point shooter who nerfed himself.
It’s not that brotha, Demar has an awesome drive and mid game. It’s the 3s that kill him, if he can’t space the floor and hit a 3 when he happens to be in any corner is the worry. The only thing to circumvent that is Spurs level ball movement and that tough to replicate
@@luckylefty2405yeah Kings defense got better but the offense take a hit. With this move I think Kings can improve to around 8-12th defense all season not because of DeRozan defense but it allows Kings to play the Kings defense players in more minutes without sacrificing the offense.
Lakers fans are delusional lol? What is every other franchise called then? They missed out on klay and derozan . Who car3s . Hopefully they can make a move . If not oh well. Hopefully ppl can stay healthy
@@jj47k.dude what are u talking about Fox attempts 8 3s a game…. Malik monk Keegan Murray and Kevin hurter literally all top tier shooters in the league and 2 of em average 15 plus… what are u on who’s shooting 3s everyone but sabonis demar n Alex len even the backup 3 and 4 can shoot
People don’t realize how much he is an improvement over Barnes lol.. kings look nice. Still a 25ppg scorer playing the most minutes out of anyone last yr besides Saboner
Their talent isn't crazy, compared to the other contenders in the west. And the fit is bad. Sometimes a 3 and D guy is better than a Derozan type. If the Kings had a rim protector center, then I could see bringing in Derozan to be a secondary ball handler. But they have Sabonis, who is that secondary ball distributer. They need 3 pt shooting all around them. Instead, they got Fox, who shot well last year from 3, Sabonis, who gets dared to shoot 3s, and Derozan, who won't shoot 3s. That is 3 out of their starting 5!
The Sacramento kings needed defense and they instead got a better offensive player in demar who’s not really a sf. They have nobody to guard good forwards so they will get cooked even more on the defensive side.
@@jamesdavidson8306 They do have somebody to guard forwards, it is Keegan Murray. He's actually pretty good. They may need a bigger guy as well, or ANY defensive talent at all, but the 2-4 guys are somewhat covered by Murray for sure.
@@shorewall I wouldn't be too worried about a bad fit. It is not like DeRozan is worse defensively than Barnes and if they reduce his load a tiny bit, he can probably handle the pace fine. On the flip side, he offers another dynamic angle of attack that they really didn't have. Kings have 2 fast, dynamic guards, but not a larger, way stronger midrange scorer that is also good in the clutch, just like Fox and Monk. Don't underestimate his playmaking either, he's really developed that over the years. You only have to look at how Siakam is doing at the Pacers to see what this can add to the Kings, as it is somewhat of a similar addition. When the game slows down, this is your guy that can create.
Considering how close the West was last season, a win or two is a huge difference. DeRozan is that kind of player who will get you a few wins, that's what they are counting on. Plus they were #3 in the West in 2022-23, and only dropped by 2 wins in 2023-24 but that put them in the play-in. It's a smart move, especially where they didn't have to give up much, and they get 2 years to continue developing Keegan Murray as the heir apparent to DeRozan.
You're missing the point. SAC finally has a guy that is as close as you can get to automatic in the mid-range, a prime time CLUTCH performer, and a guy that can facilitate offense from the 3 and take some of that playmayking responsibility off of D Fox. Demar plays the 3. Why be worried about his pairing in the backcourt wit Fox when he's going to make life hella easier for both Sabonis AND Fox? Plus, he's a great team guy who mentors the younger players. As a Bulls fan, it's sad to see him go, but I'm glad he landed somewhere he has a chance to win and be a big cog for a quality team. Thanks for EVERYTHING, Demar. You will be missed ✌🏾❤️
If we’re talking potential here, Fox was playing at a MVP level early in the season before he got hurt. Sabonis is a top 20 player. U get to keep Monk and Keegan while adding Derozan? That’s a great team imo.
@@ztlabraptor211you clearly don’t watch basketball. He’s the hub that makes the Kings offense run. He led the league in double doubles and broke the record for consecutive double doubles in the modern era. He also had the most triple doubles last season. If that’s not a top 20 player I don’t know what stats you’re looking at.
@@Khaab00 the irony of saying I don’t watch basketball and then using shit like double doubles as your argument is hilarious. Rather than simply glazing his counting stats why not also take into account his weaknesses like we do for every other player ? Sabonis is an awful defender, and the center position is the most important position defensively. That alone takes away from his value a ton and last year as a result the kings were objectively a better team when he sat than when he played. His offence while consistent is also fairly limited; he does not take jumpers and as a result teams do not respect him at all when it comes to spacing. He doesn’t even have much of a mid range game. On top of those things the few times he’s made the playoffs he’s been absolutely awful in them. Bam, fox, Lauri, etc are all guys generally thrown in the 25-30 range and they’re better than Sabonis for example.
OMG OMG we have Demar DeRozan. I'm so shocked right now that I'm literally running around my house right now. I was not expecting my Sacramento Kings to get Demar at all. I thought they had no shot in getting Demar, but they got him. This is insane. We still need more defensive help but he's an huge upgrade from Harrison Barnes
I'm happy for you man. At least the Sac fans seem to love the fact that he's there. So far what I've heard from Bulls fans was very mixed, despite him putting up all-star numbers on good efficiency and being one of the most clutch players in the league.
@pinobluevogel6458 I feel really bad for Bulls Gans because that Bulls front office has no idea what they are doing. It's like they're too stubborn to make a move or make a trade and when they do make a trade, they always get fleeced.
@@nnam2397 That too, always a problem if you don't have a good defensive baseline in the playoffs. The Pacers went quite far without it, but their offense is the best in the league.
Bro THIS RIGHT HERE. People trashing our defense (we were 16th?), people saying demar doesn't shoot so we have no shooters (we were 3rd in 3pm last year and a big issue was forcing 3 pointers when they weren't hitting not to mention that we were BEST with our 3s when we did drive and dish which demar would fit perfectly for as more of a slasher). These people don't get it man, and all it cost was barnes, duarte, and some seconds.
I'm a non-kings fan, more like a Kings apprecianado. I just like to watch them play. This isn't a perfect fit, but that doesn't really exist, at least not on the market right now. However, I really like DeRozan as an addition, he is versatile, he's clutch and he adds another angle of attack that they didn't have. In terms of value he can add, there wasn't anybody outside of PG and Brandon Ingram that was a stronger player on the market. (if Ingram is even on the market truly, there were talks with the Kings but that is about all we knew)
The narrative is BS. Barnes is no better fit than DeRozan. This actually allows kings to rotate Fox and DeRozan in the middle of the game and a 20pt scorer at all times.
as a kings fan, this may not seem massive but this is absolutely giant for us. it’s been so hard over the years to get a player this big to sac. i’m so damn happy
DeMar DeRozan is one of the best players of our generation... Maybe the most skillful, the closest thing to Kobe & Michael Jordan.... Is blasphemous to doubt him, I wished Warriors could've get him
This guy makes good and bad points . Kings swooped the lakers Kings lost to the pelicans 6 games and to the pistons and to the Portland 2 times and pistons . So if Kings win 4 of those games they are 6th seed. This move makes Kings 4th in the west
Demar will make Fox a better 3 point shooter because of the pressure he will take off of Fox. Sabonis will improve offensively with Demar as well. People are morons not seeing how that works. 😄
That doesn’t make much sense… if anything swapping Barnes for Demar means that’s one less player that needs to be guarded when he’s past 3, which makes it easier to double fox or makes it easier to pack the paint which allows fox’s man to overcommit
I don't see how DeMar addresses Sacramento's issues at all. They need wing defense. They send out a passable wing defender and good 3pt shooter and replace him with someone who doesn't defend and doesn't take threes.
the fact that sacramento got a player who produces 24 ppg and still produce star power skill and is currently star player, where there a small market team is a game changer! The kings hand down got a steal🤗 i love the move and i see them winning a series now u have three star player in different positions that could specialize there skill sets. outside on fox,deroz mid-range not to mention is the best at the nba currently!sabonous on the inside. i love this! the dark horse potentially be another mavs trip again to the finals upside. coming from a celtics fan😄!
The biggest benefit the Kings were looking for is consistency from their starting core. Barnes would give you 30 pts, 8 rebs one night, and 6 pts 5 rebounds the very next game. Having a third guy who can give you 20 pts more nights than not, you can manage the minutes of Fox, Sabonis and Derozen by having two of them on the floor at all times during the first 40 minutes of the game, and if you need, all three in the clutch minutes. Plus Malik Monk, and Keegan Murray. Who do you leave wide open?
Demar is a consistent bucket getter & along with his many of years of experience & wisdom that he has that he can share with the team..,theres 2 great reasons i find that this was a good move on sacs part to get him,hopefully it will work out well for them..
Demar’s probably the best they could get, I don’t hate it. Like if literally everything breaks right they could be a WCF team and if they’re just a 5-9 seed their cap isn’t ruined forever
They trash and prob are a playin team again. Not much hate but a lot of reality. Grizzlies will be back, rockets could keep improving, warriors could still be competitive. West is tough
@@anthonytrevino3191Warriors will be humiliated by Kings again lil buddy. Rockets and Grizzlies are also non-contenders. You just listed western weaklings who have no chances of even making WCF, let alone the Finals. The real powerhouses are OKC, Mavs, Wolves and maybe Nuggets. They're above everyone in the West.
@@akirosakuragi9279you missed his point lol. He didn’t mention the contenders because the kings aren’t on that level. He mentioned the teams he thinks the kings will be competing with for a play in spot
If you add Demar Free throws to the kings he moves our percentage from 30th to 19th. Cost the kings at least 6 wins last season. Its a HUGE upgrade for the kings.
I’m hoping he can just give us some moments , that’s all we need to be a 5th or 6th seed LOCKED IN. 7-8 moments of him taking over second half games in the season will make us contenders because no one else provided anything besides monk
You are spot on with your comments. Also, one thing you did not say was you are paying a 35 yrs old $25 million a year, and he will be 38, and you are still paying him. Who is getting the ball down the stretch? Derozan can't spot up while Fox is doing his thing.
Bro, your a hater. Fox 3 pointing shooting is improving. He shot 37% on 8 attempts a game last season. He was at nearly 40% for a long stretch of the season and he is still putting in that work. Adding a wing like Kuzma and a semi cheap rim protector and they are contending.
If you dont think Derozan is a significant upgrade over Harrison Barnes,you dont watch Kings basketball.And Keegan isn't going anywhere,ppl keep talking about spacing like Keegan can't knock down 3's at a high level,like Fox isnt an improved 3 point shooter,like Sabonis cant hit 3's.I watched the Kings blow i don't know how many leads because of scoring droughts.Derozan addresses that problem.
Lmao fr and he acts like Keegan Murray is just a dumpable asset like bro it's not 2022 anymore, Keegan has proven he's better than guys like Jaden Ivey, Bennedict Mathurin, and Shaedon Sharpe
Definitely a great trade, demars skillset is above needing a consistent 3 what he can give you in the clutch is just so valuable imo in a series against maybe the pels or gsw(hopefully) hes a great match
Demar is an awesome player. It’s a shame him and Zach couldn’t get that chemistry because they could have been such a dynamic duo. Nobody wanted to pick up Zach’s contract so we did what we had to do.
Barnes to the Spurs is really an underrated move. The Spurs need shooters and size around Wemby and Barnes fits their needs perfectly. Considering that the Spurs get him + pick swap for nothing, this is a masterful move by the Spurs.
Why I don’t think demar makes this team any better You obviously haven’t watched him play the last two years if you say he refuses to shoot the three ball it’s actually something he has improved drastically at All he will do is make their defence worse and slow down their offence Could be handy doen the stretch in a close game but they are gonna struggle against all the good teams with this lineup They need defenders or games could get really ugly
I think one of the clutchest things was it was reported Demar talked to Monk...bro idk how that convo went but he pitched something to Demar. Gotta love Monk took a paycut to stay in Sac because he said it felt like "home" lfg new era of Kings.
A second round of conference final would make this a very good signing. DeMar is a star. His 3pt shooting isn’t stellar but he is an offensive killer and the kings can be a top 5 team in the west with him if all goes well
He’s been basically playing PF and guarding the best player on every team. The man is underrated for his defense. He’s one of, if not the best, iso wing defender in the league. Brown had him guarding 1-4 and he did a great job at it. He’s like a robot so no one knows about him.
The Raptors weren’t demanding Keegan Murray. They just were taking on worse contracts and receiving worse picks than the deal from the Pacers. Bobby Webster said as much before the draft.
Very great in paper, kings have been mid for decades they need atleast be on the 2nd round this upcoming season if not they will for sure trade top stars PG: Fox SG: Hunter SF: Derozan PF: Murray C: Sabonis 6th man: Monk
Kings have been good the past few years they lost in play in last year cause they lost key guys adding demar makes them a top 5-6 team in the west easy
Here's a thought experiment: Had it been the Lakers that added DeRozan, would your opinion be different? Sure, fit is important, but there seems to be so much subjectivity on what constitutes 'fit'. Of course, DeRozan is not a 3-point shooter. Still, he has been a very important asset to three teams and is now on a fourth. The Kings' identity is scoring. He helps with that. And I am always curious about how Harrison Barnes never seems to get any love. The guy has been super-reliable for so, so long. There are bigger stars who have missed so much time, but are still given all the love and recognition. When it is all over, Barnes and DeRozan will both have had careers that really come close to much bigger stars. Part of that is the fact that people overlook their teams all the time. Again, media bias to drool over a limited number of select teams.
lakers fans so down bad. not gonna lie im starting to think lebron really fucked up in a couple ways. first his playstyle pushes guys away, not being able to play your game and having to spot up or play second fiddle even to a 40 year old lebron is not going to be attractive to people. second, the bronny signing looks like the lakers are not serious. how the hell can a star trying to win a ship go to that team in good faith knowing they doing shit like that. third, the lakers suck and are going to be in the spotlight all year regardless. not really lebrons fault, just the reality. ok im done.
This isn’t the move that will make them a contender. Demar will take away from the Sabonis and Fox and just adds more inefficiency to the team. Mavericks, Thunder, Nuggets, Timberwolves, Pelicans are all guaranteed better teams. Lakers are likely to be better and Suns and Clippers could still be better. Is it really worth it? I like the Kings a lot but these fans are acting like they got prime LeBron to their roster. The defense will be very poor in the coming years. Best wishes to them though.
So funny, the accompanying video in the background. It shows DeRozan completely owning Harrison Barnes. You hear Tucker say: DeRozan basically refuses to take threes .. and we see him hit 2 gamewinning buzzer beating 3 pointers in a row. This guy is worth so much just for that X-Factor he brings at the end of games. He is also one of the better playmakers on the team, while not giving up much defensively at all. He is slightly less tall than Harrison Barnes, but it is not a massive difference, he has a very strong frame that can really help against 3's and 4's.
Deaaron Fox got really good at shooting threes this last season, he shot 37% on 8 attempts a game and he was taking some tough shots. I don’t think the spacing will be much of an issue.
Def a nice move. In a loaded west I still don't see them as a finals team, but a couple more pieces and they're right there. Doesn't have to be more star players....but some good role players.
Thier conference is competitive as hell, the Demar move should virtually guarantee thier at least a playin team for the next three years. Anything else is basically a cherry on top: Is the viewpoint you should have honestly
I think this is a great move for the kings. This will give them a lot of offensive punch and late game scoring. They will obviously continue to not be a very good defensive team but I think the offense will be strong enough to keep them in games and if you've got DeMar DeRozan at the end of games you've always got a chance.😊
DeMar is an old fashioned Bball warrior. He is somewhat ball dominant and does best as a one man team. As a Bulls fan, I appreciated his efforts, but they never should have signed him.
Why is everyone ignoring that the west got weaker this year? - Clippers got worse - Lakers stayed the same - Warriors got worse - NOLA got worse - Denver got worse Kings add DeRozan, Devin Carter and resigned Monk. Still have their picks and could move Heurter.
He turned down a contract extension in hopes of gaining a super max next summer. As a Fox fan, I don't wanna hear any excuses from him if he fails to elevate his game next season
They certainly need another trade, they have good trade contracts and almost all their firsts. Theyre competing against Mavs, Thunder, Wolves, Suns, Grizzlies w a healthy Ja, Nuggets, just for a non play in spot, and thats not factoring the ifs of Rockets taking that jump, Clippers actually being healthy, and Lakers not being the...Lakers.
@@luisleiva5346 shit you are absolutely right, there's too many teams cause I already named ten lol. 3 of those 11 teams won't make the playoffs at all which is just crazy to think.
The other good thing about this for Sacramento is that they barely spent anything to get a multiple-time All-Star who still seems to be really good on the offensive end. I think this is pretty bad for Chicago though because they didn't get really anything back. Not even a single first round draft pick? I know that the bulls were trying to get out of having to pay a lot of money to just be a play in team but they didn't get any young players or first round picks to help them with their rebuild.
Kings fan, I don't like us giving up Davion Mitchell and Duarte, imo both great bench players. At this point to me the team looks thinner but time will tell, I hope it pays off.
I get your point, but we just drafted a guard to replace davion and duarte didn't play by the end of the season by coaches decision. We still also have a MLE to use on another solid bench player so depth is not an issue. Huerter, fox, monk, sabonis, demar, murray, keon, lyles, len, carter and maybe mcdaniels would give us a 11 man rotation right there.
True. But carter will hopefully have a similar impact as Davion, but he'll be missed. Duarte was ok defensively but was generally bad on offence. I'll take derozen and carter over Duarte and Mitchell
Kings need a finisher. DeMar DeRozan can be a reliable 2nd or 3rd option in their offense. He's a serviceable defender. He can make some plays and take off some pressure from Fox and others. I'd grade them as A. He might not take a lot of threes, but if you have Monk, Murray, Huerter etc., I think it's enough. He's not there to shoot threes, but to provide offense inside the paint and create some shots in the midrange.
As a Kings fan, if DeMar improves the regular season by 3 wins, that could be the difference between being the 10 seed and the 5 seed. I'd much rather be the latter, thank you.
My problem is defense. I feel like offense wasn't the kings problem and demar is a worse defender then barnes. Granted the kings do have good shooters but if you trade them for good defenders then you have spacing issues.
Despar8 or not this isa good move! It's gives them that 3rd star & makes them very competitive in tha West. We don't even know if they would've landed Markkaen.
If you are Luka or Ja, and always have the ball, then you can get away with being a shaky 3 pt shooter. But if you are the 2nd or 3rd option, you need to be able to shoot 3s, for when you don't have the ball.
Kings have really shifted up the roster and made a fantastic move in the offseason the lakers are literally running back with the same exact squad that lost in 5 clippers are toast and gsw are also cooked we might have to start having that talk that the kings are the best California team right now
Why do people keep doubting if Demar is a star LMFAO man was averaging 24 a game, driving basically their entire offence, he is most definitely a star.
24 a game with all 2’s he’s talked about like he’s washed.
Bulls fan speaking: he raises any team’s floor, but doesn’t raise the ceiling much higher. Bulls have given him the green light the last 3 years, esp the last 2 with Lonzo going down and Lavine being in and out of the lineup. Sure, he’s put up 24-27, but there’s more beneficial ways to put up those numbers if you’re actually spacing the floor. Has great footwork and moves like Kobe in his later years, has been a good locker room guy, but I’m glad to see him go…even if we got pennies back on the dollar, just shows to prove how dry the market was and how negligent the bulls FO was to deal at the deadline.
He's the best player on the Kings, tell you that.
@@rileyhawkins4789 He could have been a top 3 player IF he chose to take 3s more. But he doesn't purely out of spite, hes a great 3 point shooter who nerfed himself.
It’s not that brotha, Demar has an awesome drive and mid game. It’s the 3s that kill him, if he can’t space the floor and hit a 3 when he happens to be in any corner is the worry. The only thing to circumvent that is Spurs level ball movement and that tough to replicate
Don’t forget, the Kings were the 5th seed, ties with Dallas when Monk went down last year.
And Heurter.
thank you. not to mention their defense improved in the second half of the season
This guy downplays how good the Kings are, better than L.A.
last year doesnt matter tbh. there will be way more competition this year. even mavs will struggle
@@luckylefty2405yeah Kings defense got better but the offense take a hit. With this move I think Kings can improve to around 8-12th defense all season not because of DeRozan defense but it allows Kings to play the Kings defense players in more minutes without sacrificing the offense.
This was really good for the Kings, they traded their worst player for a good player.
It’s a shame Barnes couldn’t play with more consistency. Really loved the guy. All love and respect to Gentlemen Barnes from Sacramento.
Exactly
This
@@ryanweavile great player* 12 straight years averaging 20+
Barnes always fries the shit out of the warriors every time they play though so I'm happy he's not in sac anymore
Arguably makes the Kings the best team in California now
Lol we were 2 seasons ago
Record and seeding wise yes, but the Lakers did make the WCFs.
That’s not a high bar. There is no team in Cali that is a legit contender
@@Matthew-xl5bcthe bar was set so low kings can finally see over it
Assuming the Clippers don't have Kawhi at full strength, this is most definitely the strongest California team.
I'm sure Lakers fans are in shambles again
lol - very true, forgot about them.
Haven’t heard their delusional optimism in a while
@@anthonywlong delusional optimism ... that is a great word for Lakers fans lol
Lakers fans are delusional lol? What is every other franchise called then? They missed out on klay and derozan . Who car3s . Hopefully they can make a move . If not oh well. Hopefully ppl can stay healthy
Literally could care less, keep our name in ya mouth tho 😂
I'm glad DRoz came home yall didn't deserve him neither
Sacramento is not compton
@@MJfromdaOI’m assuming he means California.
@@MJfromdaO Still california, he's back in his home state!!
Compton and Sac aren't the same place. It's a 6 or 7 hour drive. It's like calling Cleveland home for a guy from New York.
I don’t think he wants to live in Compton anymore 😂
As a Kings fan, our bar is low. DeRozan guarantees the playoffs, I'll take it.
DeMar is still the man
He's fire in the mid range, his game ages like a fine wine, nice pickup.
Between Fox,Derozen and Sabonis who's going to take and make 3's to space the floor?
@@jj47k.dude what are u talking about Fox attempts 8 3s a game…. Malik monk Keegan Murray and Kevin hurter literally all top tier shooters in the league and 2 of em average 15 plus… what are u on who’s shooting 3s everyone but sabonis demar n Alex len even the backup 3 and 4 can shoot
I don't think it's a guarantee but they should be in the playoffs
As a king fan, we just want to win one series. The bar is low
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tbh, I just want us to get to the Western Finals. I don't even care if we get a title. I just wanna go back to the WCF.
@@cocomo111Kings were bound to be in the conference Finals in 2023 if they were to beat the Warriors in that Game 7
Speak for yourself. We getting that 💍
@@TreyJaySoSwayNo, they were not. I know that they had/have the Lalers' number, but there was no guarantee that they would have beaten them.
DeRozan Always Played In Cities Ending In The Letter “O”:
1st. Toronto
2nd. San Antonio
3rd. Chicago
And Now. Sacramento
Next stop
Orlando and San Francisco
Orlando next?
@@nabster9253 Possibly 😂
@@MP-sy4zc Possibly LOL
@@nabster9253Houston Boston Portland New Orleans Oklahoma City
Y'all undervaluing DeRozan. The disrespect is nuts.
We've seen him in the West already. He only made the playoffs once.
It's deja vu all over again
@@ColdHoopsthe difference is he wasn’t playing with a guy of Fox’s caliber. He’s going to be asked to be #2/3 on a team that is fast paced.
@@ColdHoopsquick name me the starting 5 on the Spurs during the 2019-2020 and 2020-2021 seasons
People don’t realize how much he is an improvement over Barnes lol.. kings look nice. Still a 25ppg scorer playing the most minutes out of anyone last yr besides Saboner
Their talent isn't crazy, compared to the other contenders in the west. And the fit is bad. Sometimes a 3 and D guy is better than a Derozan type.
If the Kings had a rim protector center, then I could see bringing in Derozan to be a secondary ball handler. But they have Sabonis, who is that secondary ball distributer. They need 3 pt shooting all around them.
Instead, they got Fox, who shot well last year from 3, Sabonis, who gets dared to shoot 3s, and Derozan, who won't shoot 3s. That is 3 out of their starting 5!
@shorewall the other 2 you skipping over is Monk, Murray or Huerter all excellent shooters.
The Sacramento kings needed defense and they instead got a better offensive player in demar who’s not really a sf. They have nobody to guard good forwards so they will get cooked even more on the defensive side.
@@jamesdavidson8306 They do have somebody to guard forwards, it is Keegan Murray. He's actually pretty good. They may need a bigger guy as well, or ANY defensive talent at all, but the 2-4 guys are somewhat covered by Murray for sure.
@@shorewall I wouldn't be too worried about a bad fit. It is not like DeRozan is worse defensively than Barnes and if they reduce his load a tiny bit, he can probably handle the pace fine. On the flip side, he offers another dynamic angle of attack that they really didn't have.
Kings have 2 fast, dynamic guards, but not a larger, way stronger midrange scorer that is also good in the clutch, just like Fox and Monk. Don't underestimate his playmaking either, he's really developed that over the years.
You only have to look at how Siakam is doing at the Pacers to see what this can add to the Kings, as it is somewhat of a similar addition. When the game slows down, this is your guy that can create.
We need to get these bots outta these comment sections man 😭
It’s actually crazy every time
I reported them but yeWtooB doesn't seem to mind anything involving sexual content. 🤷
@@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 they’re more likely to ban one of us for nothing than a bot/spam comment
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Considering how close the West was last season, a win or two is a huge difference. DeRozan is that kind of player who will get you a few wins, that's what they are counting on. Plus they were #3 in the West in 2022-23, and only dropped by 2 wins in 2023-24 but that put them in the play-in. It's a smart move, especially where they didn't have to give up much, and they get 2 years to continue developing Keegan Murray as the heir apparent to DeRozan.
Omg as a kings fan and we get a dedicated video every few years makes me so happy 😭😂
Pacers fan. I hear you! I've always liked the Kings. Very happy our trade worked out for both teams!!!
Pacer fan also, yeah they are the pacers of the west and like the pacers no body likes talking about them extensively. kings are an exciting team
old on, let me tell you about bronny :D
@@feliciozo Bronny is the truth; he'd be the best player on the Kings.
Both the Pacers and Kings are fun to watch. They aren't my teams, but I tune in occasionally to watch them play some fast and furious basketball.
You're missing the point. SAC finally has a guy that is as close as you can get to automatic in the mid-range, a prime time CLUTCH performer, and a guy that can facilitate offense from the 3 and take some of that playmayking responsibility off of D Fox. Demar plays the 3. Why be worried about his pairing in the backcourt wit Fox when he's going to make life hella easier for both Sabonis AND Fox? Plus, he's a great team guy who mentors the younger players.
As a Bulls fan, it's sad to see him go, but I'm glad he landed somewhere he has a chance to win and be a big cog for a quality team.
Thanks for EVERYTHING, Demar. You will be missed ✌🏾❤️
If we’re talking potential here, Fox was playing at a MVP level early in the season before he got hurt. Sabonis is a top 20 player. U get to keep Monk and Keegan while adding Derozan? That’s a great team imo.
Sabonis ain’t a top 20 player
@@ztlabraptor211 he was #8 in MVP votes last year.
3rd All NBA team.
@@ztlabraptor211you clearly don’t watch basketball. He’s the hub that makes the Kings offense run. He led the league in double doubles and broke the record for consecutive double doubles in the modern era. He also had the most triple doubles last season. If that’s not a top 20 player I don’t know what stats you’re looking at.
@@Khaab00 the irony of saying I don’t watch basketball and then using shit like double doubles as your argument is hilarious. Rather than simply glazing his counting stats why not also take into account his weaknesses like we do for every other player ? Sabonis is an awful defender, and the center position is the most important position defensively. That alone takes away from his value a ton and last year as a result the kings were objectively a better team when he sat than when he played. His offence while consistent is also fairly limited; he does not take jumpers and as a result teams do not respect him at all when it comes to spacing. He doesn’t even have much of a mid range game. On top of those things the few times he’s made the playoffs he’s been absolutely awful in them.
Bam, fox, Lauri, etc are all guys generally thrown in the 25-30 range and they’re better than Sabonis for example.
OMG OMG we have Demar DeRozan. I'm so shocked right now that I'm literally running around my house right now. I was not expecting my Sacramento Kings to get Demar at all. I thought they had no shot in getting Demar, but they got him. This is insane. We still need more defensive help but he's an huge upgrade from Harrison Barnes
Congrats I hated we didn't keep him in San Antonio 😊
@@tjcombo9328if we did we wouldn’t have Wemby rn lol
HUGE Upgrade. I’m Actually Shocked
I'm happy for you man. At least the Sac fans seem to love the fact that he's there. So far what I've heard from Bulls fans was very mixed, despite him putting up all-star numbers on good efficiency and being one of the most clutch players in the league.
@pinobluevogel6458 I feel really bad for Bulls Gans because that Bulls front office has no idea what they are doing. It's like they're too stubborn to make a move or make a trade and when they do make a trade, they always get fleeced.
They needed another go to scorer it showed in the play in lol
Exactly. Someone gets it lol
They needed DEFENSE that’s their problem always has been
The play-in is a bad example, they faced the Pelicans, who are their worst matchup. If they had faced the Lakers, they would have had an easy time.
@@nnam2397 That too, always a problem if you don't have a good defensive baseline in the playoffs. The Pacers went quite far without it, but their offense is the best in the league.
Non kings fans in the comments yapping about fit when they watched 0 games. Don't worry about us, lil bruhs.
Didn't the kings basically shoot more threes than anyone last year? Demar will fit just fine
Bro THIS RIGHT HERE. People trashing our defense (we were 16th?), people saying demar doesn't shoot so we have no shooters (we were 3rd in 3pm last year and a big issue was forcing 3 pointers when they weren't hitting not to mention that we were BEST with our 3s when we did drive and dish which demar would fit perfectly for as more of a slasher). These people don't get it man, and all it cost was barnes, duarte, and some seconds.
We were 19th. We just need to match that but be the best best offense again. Murray, Fox, Carter and Ellis all good defenders@@christianguzaitis4353
I'm a non-kings fan, more like a Kings apprecianado. I just like to watch them play. This isn't a perfect fit, but that doesn't really exist, at least not on the market right now.
However, I really like DeRozan as an addition, he is versatile, he's clutch and he adds another angle of attack that they didn't have. In terms of value he can add, there wasn't anybody outside of PG and Brandon Ingram that was a stronger player on the market. (if Ingram is even on the market truly, there were talks with the Kings but that is about all we knew)
The narrative is BS. Barnes is no better fit than DeRozan. This actually allows kings to rotate Fox and DeRozan in the middle of the game and a 20pt scorer at all times.
as a kings fan, this may not seem massive but this is absolutely giant for us. it’s been so hard over the years to get a player this big to sac. i’m so damn happy
2k25 finna be op finna use kings, Spurs, and New York for the first time online.
DeMar DeRozan is one of the best players of our generation... Maybe the most skillful, the closest thing to Kobe & Michael Jordan.... Is blasphemous to doubt him, I wished Warriors could've get him
This off-season has been one of the wildest in awhile and I like it
This guy makes good and bad points . Kings swooped the lakers Kings lost to the pelicans 6 games and to the pistons and to the Portland 2 times and pistons . So if Kings win 4 of those games they are 6th seed. This move makes Kings 4th in the west
Demar is as good as Paul George at half the price and without a long injury history!
Demar will make Fox a better 3 point shooter because of the pressure he will take off of Fox. Sabonis will improve offensively with Demar as well. People are morons not seeing how that works. 😄
That doesn’t make much sense… if anything swapping Barnes for Demar means that’s one less player that needs to be guarded when he’s past 3, which makes it easier to double fox or makes it easier to pack the paint which allows fox’s man to overcommit
DeMar actually shoot a lot of 3s last season, some of them were contested and he's one of the healthiest players out there
2.8 per game is not a lot
@@ztlabraptor211 it is compared to his past season that he refused to shoot 3s, I think 2022-23 season gave him a wakeup call.
This is HUGE for a team that no one ever wanted to play for. BEAM warming up🎉
Your videos are always so informative and interesting! Thank you for that! 🍭💝
I don't see how DeMar addresses Sacramento's issues at all. They need wing defense. They send out a passable wing defender and good 3pt shooter and replace him with someone who doesn't defend and doesn't take threes.
He doesn’t help them, just a lot of Kendrick fans
the fact that sacramento got a player who produces 24 ppg and still produce star power skill and is currently star player, where there a small market team is a game changer! The kings hand down got a steal🤗 i love the move and i see them winning a series now u have three star player in different positions that could specialize there skill sets. outside on fox,deroz mid-range not to mention is the best at the nba currently!sabonous on the inside. i love this! the dark horse potentially be another mavs trip again to the finals upside. coming from a celtics fan😄!
The biggest benefit the Kings were looking for is consistency from their starting core. Barnes would give you 30 pts, 8 rebs one night, and 6 pts 5 rebounds the very next game.
Having a third guy who can give you 20 pts more nights than not, you can manage the minutes of Fox, Sabonis and Derozen by having two of them on the floor at all times during the first 40 minutes of the game, and if you need, all three in the clutch minutes. Plus Malik Monk, and Keegan Murray. Who do you leave wide open?
Demar is a consistent bucket getter & along with his many of years of experience & wisdom that he has that he can share with the team..,theres 2 great reasons i find that this was a good move on sacs part to get him,hopefully it will work out well for them..
Demar’s probably the best they could get, I don’t hate it. Like if literally everything breaks right they could be a WCF team and if they’re just a 5-9 seed their cap isn’t ruined forever
Yeah, if the stars on all the contenders are out with injury, the Kings could make the WCF.
Man i know im not an NBA expert or anything but my gut is telling me this is a fantastic fit 💪👏
I like this pickup by SacTown, I'm not sure why you are so down on it personally.
This dude is a certified Kings hater…
They trash and prob are a playin team again. Not much hate but a lot of reality. Grizzlies will be back, rockets could keep improving, warriors could still be competitive. West is tough
@@anthonytrevino3191Warriors will be humiliated by Kings again lil buddy. Rockets and Grizzlies are also non-contenders. You just listed western weaklings who have no chances of even making WCF, let alone the Finals. The real powerhouses are OKC, Mavs, Wolves and maybe Nuggets. They're above everyone in the West.
@@akirosakuragi9279you missed his point lol. He didn’t mention the contenders because the kings aren’t on that level. He mentioned the teams he thinks the kings will be competing with for a play in spot
@@ckthegreat100he said the “WEST” is tough.
@@Danxiong not sure what you mean. We’ve only been talking about Western Conference teams, and how the Kings look like a play in team
If you add Demar Free throws to the kings he moves our percentage from 30th to 19th. Cost the kings at least 6 wins last season. Its a HUGE upgrade for the kings.
I’m hoping he can just give us some moments , that’s all we need to be a 5th or 6th seed LOCKED IN. 7-8 moments of him taking over second half games in the season will make us contenders because no one else provided anything besides monk
You are spot on with your comments. Also, one thing you did not say was you are paying a 35 yrs old $25 million a year, and he will be 38, and you are still paying him. Who is getting the ball down the stretch? Derozan can't spot up while Fox is doing his thing.
23 mill per years, that is a steal! Look at the contracts this offseason
I just got subscribed. looking forward for another cavs content.
They look significantly better to me than all the current teams in CA. We’ll see how it pans out with the rest of the conference.
Fox and monk don’t have to carry the load offensively. Kings needed an ISO god who’s also not selfish. He fits this offense fine
Bro, your a hater. Fox 3 pointing shooting is improving. He shot 37% on 8 attempts a game last season. He was at nearly 40% for a long stretch of the season and he is still putting in that work. Adding a wing like Kuzma and a semi cheap rim protector and they are contending.
exactly he's an A 3 point shooter just not A+
So you want Fox to space out for Derozan? What if Fox has the ball, how is Derozan gonna space out for him?
amazing video lil bro
If you dont think Derozan is a significant upgrade over Harrison Barnes,you dont watch Kings basketball.And Keegan isn't going anywhere,ppl keep talking about spacing like Keegan can't knock down 3's at a high level,like Fox isnt an improved 3 point shooter,like Sabonis cant hit 3's.I watched the Kings blow i don't know how many leads because of scoring droughts.Derozan addresses that problem.
Lmao fr and he acts like Keegan Murray is just a dumpable asset like bro it's not 2022 anymore, Keegan has proven he's better than guys like Jaden Ivey, Bennedict Mathurin, and Shaedon Sharpe
@@wzg8804 Facts
This is a good move for the kings cus there’s no way DeRozan will be worst than Barnes
Demar off the bench ??? Lmaooooooo bro you a clown I’m clicking off
I think SAC is just happy to be a relevant franchise again
They also drafted Devin Carter who is an elite defender
People calling Demarr a “star” must be Kendrick fans 😂😂😂
Dang Another
California kid growing up liking the lakers , chose not to play with the Lakers … very interesting
Definitely a great trade, demars skillset is above needing a consistent 3 what he can give you in the clutch is just so valuable imo in a series against maybe the pels or gsw(hopefully) hes a great match
Kings Really wants to Win with just pure Offense.
Love your content fam but I believe your really underestimating this move I’m not even a Kings fan but it’s ah 🎉🎉🎉
imagine not liking demar derozan
I'm a huge demar fan, during his raps days but he will always be Demar De Frozan. Kings might actually lose in 6 instead of 5 in the playoffs.
Demar is an awesome player. It’s a shame him and Zach couldn’t get that chemistry because they could have been such a dynamic duo. Nobody wanted to pick up Zach’s contract so we did what we had to do.
Bro fox is a A- three point shooter now
I’m glad D-Roz came home y’all didn’t deserve he either
He’s washed and he’s gonna take touches away from Fox
Barnes to the Spurs is really an underrated move. The Spurs need shooters and size around Wemby and Barnes fits their needs perfectly. Considering that the Spurs get him + pick swap for nothing, this is a masterful move by the Spurs.
Why I don’t think demar makes this team any better
You obviously haven’t watched him play the last two years if you say he refuses to shoot the three ball it’s actually something he has improved drastically at
All he will do is make their defence worse and slow down their offence
Could be handy doen the stretch in a close game but they are gonna struggle against all the good teams with this lineup
They need defenders or games could get really ugly
I think one of the clutchest things was it was reported Demar talked to Monk...bro idk how that convo went but he pitched something to Demar. Gotta love Monk took a paycut to stay in Sac because he said it felt like "home" lfg new era of Kings.
I like seeing these videos just talking about the negatives
A second round of conference final would make this a very good signing. DeMar is a star. His 3pt shooting isn’t stellar but he is an offensive killer and the kings can be a top 5 team in the west with him if all goes well
Keegan Murray is 6’8 he can play the power forward.
He’s been basically playing PF and guarding the best player on every team. The man is underrated for his defense. He’s one of, if not the best, iso wing defender in the league. Brown had him guarding 1-4 and he did a great job at it. He’s like a robot so no one knows about him.
The Raptors weren’t demanding Keegan Murray. They just were taking on worse contracts and receiving worse picks than the deal from the Pacers. Bobby Webster said as much before the draft.
Man, Kings got a +20ppg stud for 23m/year and gave Up a washed overpaid player and two second round picks? That is a steal!
Very great in paper, kings have been mid for decades they need atleast be on the 2nd round this upcoming season if not they will for sure trade top stars
PG: Fox
SG: Hunter
SF: Derozan
PF: Murray
C: Sabonis
6th man: Monk
Kings have been good the past few years they lost in play in last year cause they lost key guys adding demar makes them a top 5-6 team in the west easy
ellis will start
Huerter, not hunter.
Here's a thought experiment: Had it been the Lakers that added DeRozan, would your opinion be different? Sure, fit is important, but there seems to be so much subjectivity on what constitutes 'fit'. Of course, DeRozan is not a 3-point shooter. Still, he has been a very important asset to three teams and is now on a fourth. The Kings' identity is scoring. He helps with that. And I am always curious about how Harrison Barnes never seems to get any love. The guy has been super-reliable for so, so long. There are bigger stars who have missed so much time, but are still given all the love and recognition. When it is all over, Barnes and DeRozan will both have had careers that really come close to much bigger stars. Part of that is the fact that people overlook their teams all the time. Again, media bias to drool over a limited number of select teams.
lakers fans so down bad. not gonna lie im starting to think lebron really fucked up in a couple ways. first his playstyle pushes guys away, not being able to play your game and having to spot up or play second fiddle even to a 40 year old lebron is not going to be attractive to people. second, the bronny signing looks like the lakers are not serious. how the hell can a star trying to win a ship go to that team in good faith knowing they doing shit like that. third, the lakers suck and are going to be in the spotlight all year regardless. not really lebrons fault, just the reality. ok im done.
This isn’t the move that will make them a contender. Demar will take away from the Sabonis and Fox and just adds more inefficiency to the team. Mavericks, Thunder, Nuggets, Timberwolves, Pelicans are all guaranteed better teams. Lakers are likely to be better and Suns and Clippers could still be better. Is it really worth it? I like the Kings a lot but these fans are acting like they got prime LeBron to their roster. The defense will be very poor in the coming years. Best wishes to them though.
So funny, the accompanying video in the background. It shows DeRozan completely owning Harrison Barnes. You hear Tucker say: DeRozan basically refuses to take threes .. and we see him hit 2 gamewinning buzzer beating 3 pointers in a row. This guy is worth so much just for that X-Factor he brings at the end of games.
He is also one of the better playmakers on the team, while not giving up much defensively at all. He is slightly less tall than Harrison Barnes, but it is not a massive difference, he has a very strong frame that can really help against 3's and 4's.
Spurs fan here. Demar is a perennial playoff … nvm ppl gon think I’m hating. You’re the best bro keep up the great work!
DeMar really used the Lakers as leverage AGAIN 😂😩
Deaaron Fox got really good at shooting threes this last season, he shot 37% on 8 attempts a game and he was taking some tough shots. I don’t think the spacing will be much of an issue.
His shot making is really nice for them. Its gonna make a huge difference
Barnes is finally gone 🎉
I feel so bad for Harrison Barnes he’s always traded somewhere and he isn’t a bad role player either
Def a nice move. In a loaded west I still don't see them as a finals team, but a couple more pieces and they're right there. Doesn't have to be more star players....but some good role players.
Bro, who did you piss off to get all these bots? 😂
Who knows but no matter what I do they’re always there
Thier conference is competitive as hell, the Demar move should virtually guarantee thier at least a playin team for the next three years. Anything else is basically a cherry on top: Is the viewpoint you should have honestly
I think this is a great move for the kings. This will give them a lot of offensive punch and late game scoring. They will obviously continue to not be a very good defensive team but I think the offense will be strong enough to keep them in games and if you've got DeMar DeRozan at the end of games you've always got a chance.😊
This guy clearly has never watched a kings game in his life 💀
DeMar is an old fashioned Bball warrior. He is somewhat ball dominant and does best as a one man team. As a Bulls fan, I appreciated his efforts, but they never should have signed him.
Barnes was collecting a pay cheque 😂
Why is everyone ignoring that the west got weaker this year?
- Clippers got worse
- Lakers stayed the same
- Warriors got worse
- NOLA got worse
- Denver got worse
Kings add DeRozan, Devin Carter and resigned Monk. Still have their picks and could move Heurter.
You’re overthinking it. I’m not a big Demar guy either, but this is a great deal for Sac. He’s a huge upgrade from
Barnes.
He turned down a contract extension in hopes of gaining a super max next summer.
As a Fox fan, I don't wanna hear any excuses from him if he fails to elevate his game next season
They certainly need another trade, they have good trade contracts and almost all their firsts. Theyre competing against Mavs, Thunder, Wolves, Suns, Grizzlies w a healthy Ja, Nuggets, just for a non play in spot, and thats not factoring the ifs of Rockets taking that jump, Clippers actually being healthy, and Lakers not being the...Lakers.
Forgot about Pelicans, it is really the wild west
@@luisleiva5346 shit you are absolutely right, there's too many teams cause I already named ten lol. 3 of those 11 teams won't make the playoffs at all which is just crazy to think.
The other good thing about this for Sacramento is that they barely spent anything to get a multiple-time All-Star who still seems to be really good on the offensive end. I think this is pretty bad for Chicago though because they didn't get really anything back. Not even a single first round draft pick? I know that the bulls were trying to get out of having to pay a lot of money to just be a play in team but they didn't get any young players or first round picks to help them with their rebuild.
Kings fan, I don't like us giving up Davion Mitchell and Duarte, imo both great bench players. At this point to me the team looks thinner but time will tell, I hope it pays off.
I get your point, but we just drafted a guard to replace davion and duarte didn't play by the end of the season by coaches decision. We still also have a MLE to use on another solid bench player so depth is not an issue. Huerter, fox, monk, sabonis, demar, murray, keon, lyles, len, carter and maybe mcdaniels would give us a 11 man rotation right there.
True. But carter will hopefully have a similar impact as Davion, but he'll be missed. Duarte was ok defensively but was generally bad on offence. I'll take derozen and carter over Duarte and Mitchell
Kings need a finisher. DeMar DeRozan can be a reliable 2nd or 3rd option in their offense. He's a serviceable defender. He can make some plays and take off some pressure from Fox and others.
I'd grade them as A.
He might not take a lot of threes, but if you have Monk, Murray, Huerter etc., I think it's enough.
He's not there to shoot threes, but to provide offense inside the paint and create some shots in the midrange.
As a Kings fan, if DeMar improves the regular season by 3 wins, that could be the difference between being the 10 seed and the 5 seed. I'd much rather be the latter, thank you.
Barnes and 2 second round picks FOR DEMAR?? Idc if the kings are a first round exit again, this is an objectively GREAT trade
My problem is defense. I feel like offense wasn't the kings problem and demar is a worse defender then barnes. Granted the kings do have good shooters but if you trade them for good defenders then you have spacing issues.
Despar8 or not this isa good move! It's gives them that 3rd star & makes them very competitive in tha West. We don't even know if they would've landed Markkaen.
I like the move for Demar but his 3pt shooting is what worries me for the kings
If you are Luka or Ja, and always have the ball, then you can get away with being a shaky 3 pt shooter. But if you are the 2nd or 3rd option, you need to be able to shoot 3s, for when you don't have the ball.
@@shorewall yeah pretty much brotha Ja even being a better example he’s not a great 3pter but he takes it when them when it call for it
Kings have really shifted up the roster and made a fantastic move in the offseason the lakers are literally running back with the same exact squad that lost in 5 clippers are toast and gsw are also cooked we might have to start having that talk that the kings are the best California team right now