Bishop Cancels Latin Mass on Steubenville Campus, Effective Immediately
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- Dr. Taylor Marshall and Eric Sammons discuss the Bishop of Steubenville’s decision to cancel the Latin Mass on the university campus of Franciscan University in Steubenville.
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No. He won't. How do you know? You can rest assured he knew about the monthly tlm AND about the student request for more... and he wouldn't allow it. Hippy DippyFUS needs to go away.
Can an underground TLM be organized?
Reinstating it would be a tacit admission that he was wrong to ban it in the first place. The chances of virtually any US bishop doing that are somewhere between slim and none.
Maybe a blessing in disguise. Perhaps the TLM will survive at Religious churches. Somone just needs to build an Abbey in Steubenville.
Hello Dr Taylor Marshall, can you explain or talk about the DIVINE MERCY. Is this prayer was truly granted by the Lord Jesus to Santa Faustina? I don't use this prayer for now because some say this prayer is wrong. I hope you can answer the TRUTH of DIVINE MERCY🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
We want to see 600 students flood the Traditional Latin Mass on Sunday!
Spring Break for FUS is from March 13-17 with classes resuming on the 20th. Might be bad timing...
@@cherihutson2284 Then start attending TLM exclusively.
@@nnovo3122, there are no Trad Masses within an hour of where I live (Steubenville is actually probably the closest). Frankly, I'm poor and can't afford the gas. And the truth is, though I am all for Traditional Masses, I do not consider myself to be a "Trad" specifically. There are certain things that I would prefer to have been left alone... e.g. - priests facing the east and with their back to the people, exclusively male altar servers, Communion rails left in place, Communion on the tongue, sung responses in Latin, etc. That said, I see no problem with the vernacular being spoken so that people can actually understand the spoken parts of the Mass and thus being able to take it in better. I have gone to Novus Ordo Masses all my life, and I think the important thing is reverence and allowing God to fill one's heart. One can be spiritually moved and fed even in the Novus Ordo Mass - and still give glory to God. The reception of the sacraments with the proper disposition, the doctrines and beliefs and the resulting ways we live our lives are what's important, and maybe not so much the exactness of the Traditional format as if it's some kind of magic formula that must be followed or else we're going to Hell (there was not always a Latin Mass, you know... I think it's more in the line of a "discipline" than a "dogma," isn't it?). I'm fine with either Traditional or Novus Ordo. I think the problem is that people (like Pope Francis himself, unfortunately) have allowed themselves to become too involved in the differences and the semantics. We are all Catholics. We should love each other as such. The way I see it is that the Trads can tend to be too scrupulous and Pharisaical, while the NOs can sometimes allow too much freedom in their worship (e.g. - "clown Masses, etc.). Why can't we go back to how it was during the papacy of St. John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVIII when both were allowed, and both were fine (as long as they were done reverently without the scrupulosity or silliness)? Now we have these stupid "Trad wars" that are tearing us apart. Pope Francis says that the Traditional Mass is divisive, but the way I see it is that the concentration and focus on the differences is what's divisive. It's just like the "racial wars" in the secular world. There's more racism in people's imaginations than there is in reality. Problem is that when that imaginative problem becomes concentrated and put out to the public, that's when it becomes an issue. Same here with the Trad wars. We need to unite in our differences and see the beauty of the Mass, in whatever way it's celebrated, as long as it is in good conscience and in proper order, yet without the scrupulosity and silliness. God, help us.
@@cherihutson2284 then go to Protestant church !
@@abigail11585 You obviously didn't get my point, but I'm not going to bother trying to explain again. God bless +
I left the Catholic faith as a teenager in London UK like so many of us. Someone said you could try TLM.
I walked in and i tell no lie, I was blown away I sat In awe of what was going on up at the altar. The music I tell you I thought it was a recording it was so powerful like angelic. What an experience. I'm fully into my faith like NEVER before.
God bless and protect TLM
What is TLM?
@Duane very funny! I realized what it is without your help
Welcome back Brother!
@@anikomattison7568 Traditional Latin Mass.
God bless 🙏🙏❤️
STAY STRONG, STEUBENVILLE STUDENTS. DEFEND THE FAITH.
I’m a sophomore at Benedictine College in Kansas. We have TLM weekly. We just had our third priest learn how to say the TLM. He’s also the one who knows how to say High Mass so every third week is High Mass. Thanks be to God, traditionalism is alive and well here.
I live a long way from you. Do you know of any TLM closer to Chanute, KS.
Thank you Matt. I didn’t know this.
You might try Clear Creek Abbey in northeast Oklahoma, south of Chanute. It might be 90-100 miles away. I might be wrong about distance.
@@joebollig2689 Benedictine is about the same. There used to be one in Pittsburgh, but can't find anything about it.
Wichita is a conservative diocese and sometimes the TLM is a reaction to modernism.
I fear so much for our mother church.
@@BJNeyer Do you mean Pittsburg, Kansas? I believe the TLM is still celebrated there, at the Newman Center at the university.
Absolutely disgusting that they're doing this.
Your guest said the students could go to the SSPX Doesn’t he know that they are schismatic?
@@notyou9743 They are not schismatic. I teach at Franciscan and, like a number of others on the faculty, I would not hesitate to attend a Latin Mass in an SSPX chapel. In fact, that may soon be all we have left.
@@timothywilliams1359 wrong
SSPX is definitely schismatic. Popes JPII, Benedict XVI, and Pope Francis have stated this.
@@timothywilliams1359 Societies of Apostolic Life, "without taking religious vows, pursue the apostolic purpose proper to each society. Living a fraternal life in common in their own special manner, they strive for the perfection of charity through the observance of the constitutions" [Canon 731]. The Society of S Pius X is constituted as a Society of Apostolic Life with the canonical approval of the Bishop of Fribourg [Canon 579]. Such Societies, "since they are dedicated in a special way to the service of God and of the whole Church, are in a particular manner subject to its supreme authority" [Canon 590].
The Society itself says
The Society of St. Pius X humbly submits to the authority of the pope, supreme guardian of the faith, and pays him all the reverence due to the chosen head of God’s Church.
If and when the time-honored teachings of the Church are obscured or perhaps even seemingly contradicted by the authorities in Rome, however, the SSPX stands firm for tradition.
Archbishop Lefebvre consecrated four priests as bishops in 1998 without authority, an act which was schismatic under Canon Law [Canon 751] and resulted in all five being excommunicated by Pope John Paul II.
In 2009, Pope Benedict XVI remitted the excommunication of the four bishops consecrated without authority by Archbishop Lefebvre, and explained in an apostolic letter:
An episcopal ordination lacking a pontifical mandate raises the danger of a schism, since it jeopardizes the unity of the College of Bishops with the Pope. Consequently the Church must react by employing her most severe punishment - excommunication - with the aim of calling those thus punished to repent and to return to unity. Twenty years after the ordinations, this goal has sadly not yet been attained. The remission of the excommunication has the same aim as that of the punishment: namely, to invite the four Bishops once more to return.
He went on
This gesture was possible once the interested parties had expressed their recognition in principle of the Pope and his authority as Pastor, albeit with some reservations in the area of obedience to his doctrinal authority and to the authority of the Council.
This mirrors the Society's own statement.
Pope Benedict then dealt with the status of the Society and its ministers:
As long as the Society does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church. There needs to be a distinction, then, between the disciplinary level, which deals with individuals as such, and the doctrinal level, at which ministry and institution are involved. In order to make this clear once again: until the doctrinal questions are clarified, the Society has no canonical status in the Church, and its ministers - even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty - do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church.
Thus although the ministers within the SSPX who were illegitimately consecrated have been released from the individual penalty of that schismatic act, the fact that they belong to an organisation constituted as a Society of Apostolic Life which has reservations about the authority of the Pope and the Second Vatican Council [cf Canon 590] means that they cannot minister within the Church: they remain under interdict.
Because the Society itself (in the second sentence quoted at the top of this answer) has set itself to be the authority to determine if "time-honoured teachings are obscured or seemingly contradicted," it remains schismatic
I worked for the chapel office at Franciscan and was able to increase the TLM from 75 students to on average about 300 each month. This was 2019-2020. I pray Franciscan will continue to be a place for students to fall in love with the TLM
Good work kid.
Where is Franciscan University? It is so important for my daughter to have the TLM when she goes to college.
Awesome and incredible.
It used to be a Charismatic Pentecostal school.... Very sad how things changed.
@@michaelciccone2194 you’re sad how things changed at Franciscan?
I’m 28 and a revert Catholic. I want the tradition. The tradition latin mass is an escape from the modern world today and it brings peace
What were you before you reverted?
@@dalia5378 I was Catholic (barely) but then I went to college and basically put God away and lived worldly thinking it was just fine as long as I was a good person inside. But now I’ve returned full force into Catholicism and I want tradition.
Preach it PickleJ! Your words are fire!
So sad. The beauty and peace found in TLM is unsurpassed
I have always attended novus ordo parishes until I was about 35 then I started attending the traditional Latin Mass it changed me in ways I can't possibly explain!
Banning TLM is the first step toward banning the whole Sacrifice of the Mass in Daniel 12:11. The Scriptures are being fulfilled.
Gated is truth scriptures are being filled they will try to ban the mass but it will continue because you cannot ban true sacrifice
@@kellygraye4832 Soon a great schism will take place after a false pope denies the real presence of Christ in the Blessed Sacrament. Then the Sacrifice of the Mass will be banned, and the Catholic Church and the faithful will be subjected to the cruelest persecutions under the Antichrist. The Church will go underground and will appear dead. But the small faithful Remnant will be protected by God and live through the time of tribulations into the 1000 years of Christ's Reign (Rev 20:1-6).
All true that will most definitely happen but as far as the laws of the church at concerned no one can actually ban the traditional Mass
When I first attended TLM during covid, it's the very first time in my life I felt the hunger for Christ more and more and virtues.
My heart breaks to see what is happening in our Catholic Church. Praying to the Sacred Heart of Jesus and Immaculate Heart of Mary and our Rosary everyday to save our beautiful Latin mass✝️🙏🙏God bless you Steubenville students 600 strong!
Thank you so much for this. I'm the schola director for Franciscan University. On behalf of the choir, I appreciate what you've said, as well as your prayers.
The students are heartbroken, as they regard this music ministry as a vocation to liturgical beauty and to the greater glory of God.
I find myself feeling the schola has lost its main purpose as the music ministry of the university TLM.
If you do decide to visit, then please do let me know - we will sing for the occasion. I hope we can speak together at one point in the future. God bless you and yours.
@Timothy Williams It's a developing situation, which, I believe, will occur in April. At least that's the hope for now.
They are heartbroken .I can understand but what now ? Find another site . That happened when the TLM went underground and preserved .Now is our time.
Is your schola not allowed to sing for any other (non-1962) masses? Many of the churches in my diocese are singing chant in Greek/Latin.
@@nealkriesterer Most of the NO Masses on campus have music covered, but we may explore the option of attempting one in Latin as envisioned by Sancrosanctum Concilium and the Missal. That may be the closest we can get.
Everything is still up in the air at the moment.
Yes, do that!
I go mainly to 1962 masses but I have seen the mass done as intended and it is even more beautiful - I would go to mass like that every time if I could but unfortunately the only priest doing it in my area does it just once a month on First Friday.
I will pray for you! What is really needed is to give our gifts to the mass as intended, not to cling to 1962 with an iron grip. You are being called to so this, and in it you will suffer a little. But you will suffer WITH CHRIST. Blessed are you! I will pray for you now.
I was present in the faculty meeting a few years ago when it was announced by Fr. Nathan Malavolti that the Traditional Latin Mass was going to be cut from every Sunday to only once per month. The reason given was that "only" 200 students were attending the Latin Mass. Then, not ten minutes later in the same meeting, he announced that the TORs planned to really promote attendance at the Saturday "Praise and Worship" meetings because student attendance at these events had dropped to below 200 !
Lord help us.
Timothy Williams remember the church was infiltrated Bishop Sheen converted Bella Dodd a communist to the faith and she told him she had put in over 1100 young communists to the priesthood so we are experiencing the fruits of this
I went to Steubenville just before the change. Not an inspiring environment plus the staff were not all that trustworthy. That’s why your work sounds valuable and as a light in that shadow.
Such pro-protestant hypocrisy
Sch a shame😢
One exasperated professor stopped by my office today to utter one word about all this. He just said: "Evil!"
I love Franciscan and pray that 600 students show up for the TLM this weekend! I’m an online grad student in FL and will share your invitation! God Bless us all!
They will be on spring break/missions next week.
Jesus only needed 12.
@@karissarutkowski8422 Not everyone goes away for spring break.
Did they plan this so the students would not create an uproar since they will be on spring break?
@@redheadmotherof6 Yes, the timing was no accident.
This is just TRAGIC! I just came from visiting the campus and I (as an outsider) was FLOORED by the number of students who were on their knees before the Blessed Sacrament in Adoration when I went into the chapel. It was beautiful. Veiled young women there as well. It was very encouraging to see these young people IN COLLEGE practicing their faith.
To do this on THIS campus of all places is really sad.
We are witnessing the Bishops on the side of the light and those on the side of darkness.
Surprising how tolerance is a one way street for this Bishop.
ALL Modernist bishops. And ALL the camel's they ride in on.
Which Baby Boomer year was the bishop born in?
@@myleshagar9722 Baby Boomers kept the TLM alive. You wouldn't have it without us. At least we weren't woke so the younger generation has nothing to be so arrogant over. Please check your pride.
Also the boomers were children or not yet born when the NO was promulgated + the majority of the Magisterium in decision making positions now are Silent Generation.
The VII attendees belonged to the inaccurately termed "greatest generation".
Please check your history + arithmetic too.
The Latin mass was what I was raised on!!! This is the most inauthentic reasoning I could ever imagine happening in my lifetime!
The millstones are being fitted for these bishops as we speak.
The Pope and the Bishops can't make me stop praying the Rosary in Latin.
I wish i knew latin 🤔 as long as im praying the Rosary 🙏✝️
@@rosemarymckinnon7517 lots of lessons on TH-cam rosemary, learning the Rosary prayers are easy! Try it, you'll love it!
Francis actually has no authority to do any of what he's doing. He's way out of line. Read lumen gentium which was intended to "put the brakes" on ultramontanism. Papal authority has actual limits
666
@@rosemarymckinnon7517 check out Cardinal Burke Rosary in Latin...
Anyone really think this horde of TLM young people are going to accept a spanking and switch to the NO for the rest of their lives? Personally I think they are just stoking the fire inside of them.
Praying
Yup 21 and a Latin Mass goer, if they ban it everywhere, we’ll just find another priest that offers it.
@@tradcathsspx Stay tuned. Plans are already being made to continue the TLM in Steubenville, even if the bishop bans it outright.
@@timothywilliams1359 nice. I'm not there myself, but will be praying that it continues and increases in numbers
@Timothy Williams yes. Non compliance and underground is the way to go. Defy the ban.
My heart breaks that our own See has turned so far away from tradition.
Our "see" is far more than just "away from tradition" - it's in full-blown apostasy.
Full-blown apostasy from the mouth of Pope Francis. Is it acceptable to refer to him as Bergoglio?
It's not merely a turn on tradition, but tradition is a sacrificial lamb.
Our See doesn’t see.
@@woodlandsartgal The problem is that the See does see and chooses to do it.
This is disheartening. I'm originally from Steubenville. I lived by St. Franciscan University back in high school. I even worked there over the Summer doing groundskeeping when I was 20. Now I live about an hour downriver. I honestly expected better from the Diocese there.
Wheeling?
Yes, Dr. Marshall about 9-10 years ago when our 1st came in as a Freshman (on our 4th now) I remember attending the first Latin Mass on FUS campus and sadly we just attended the last. Over those years we've watched the Latin Mass grow on campus but also at St. Peter's, filled with students and faculty. The Latin Mass community here is so strong and beautiful. As @LatinMassPhotographer I have photographed at both to archive and share that Beauty.
The Juventutem Franciscan group of students on campus is an inspiration of young, faithful Catholics and I feel for my friends as they and the community suffer in their desire to just worship at the Mass of Ages and the faith of their fathers...
Sad it is the church attacking the best of the church. Absurd!
Be brave students and stand your ground. So proud of you for fighting!!! ❤
I attend an NO a couple of times a month because it is close and when I have pending engagements, I go. Attendees have no idea how to be reverent within the church. I was praying the before mass Rosary, and during the last decade, (I pray it kneeling and with my eyescclosed) a parishioner interrupted me to say hello and engage in conversation. WOW! I didn't even know what to say!
Happens in my parish every week, week in, week out, you look up, put your finger to your lips and say "hush"
Oh yes I see this when I go to daily mass because there is no daily TLM and as hard as it to go i so it out of love for Jesus but then I’m wondering if it’s doing my harm for my soul.
Anyways when I go to my normal TLM in Sunday’s people walk in quiet, they don’t talk or have mindless conversations. When they leave they do the same it’s quietly because many pray after mass.
The NO oh my gosh it drives me the wall the irreverence for Jesus and others. They are talking and being loud and just stay inside the church inside of just talking and closing the doors to talk. No respect for others who want silence to pray. It’s clear in many ways the difference between the two. TLM is the holy sacrifice of the mass and NO is a meal which I dislike hearing that but it’s true. I feel like most priests just go through the motions and you can see which priests truly believe during the consecration. The respect and adoration. The humility of what they are doing.
And not to mention the sacrilegious of communion on the hand not kneeling during the Sanctus and angus dei
I see Jesus particles all over the church
I just kept praying the Rosary, but the interruption interrupted my thoughts on the mystery.
I have tried to stay after mass to spend some time in meditation and prayer, making my presence known to "lollygaggers" inside the church, to no avail. I don't even think they know what they are at church for, to be honest. It is almost like a social event. We have coffee and donuts after mass in the social hall, but they choose to laugh, catch up on gossip, and whatever else they are doing inside the church. I think it is time for me to go talk to the priest.
If we were there, we'd go. This suppression really is nationwide. Prayers from Idaho🙏
My SSPX Chapel belongs to the parishioners. It was transformed years ago and the SSPX priest drives two-three hours every Sunday for 12:30 mass. The lay people build the chapel as far as I know and do not get matching funds from diocese as parish churches do. We are separate from the diocese and depend on the SSPX priests for our sacraments-all traditional Latin .
I was raised in the Latin Mass until Vatican junk! It stuns me that this continues on and on and on.
Thanks for the shoutout (and prayers)! I'm a member of Franciscan's Juventutem chapter.
The Franciscan University should rename their campus church as an Oratory Chapel and separate it from parish oversite.
This is what we have to do, if we stop giving the weekly envelopes they wouldn't notice, we have to keep giving the envelope with one penny and a note "bring back our TLM", then they will notice.
Wow. Now we know the power of the TLM.
This is very shocking. I would expect this from Notre Dame but Stubenville is surprising while ND still as TLM available as well as eastern divine liturgy
I have been "over" FUS for awhile. They are more modernist with every passing year. It's a shame because the priests I know in their 40s and 50s who are Steubenville grads are solid.
Wish I could be there. We need to be doing this across the nation. Let’s be heard. If Antifa can show up overnight to protest police, why can’t we??
We have pesky things like jobs, families, etc, life, morals, scruples, values that get in the way. Antifa has none of that,. They live to destroy and cause mayhem with no thought to the lives, businesses, homes of innocents they destroy.
Heart breaking. I only have the English Mass but thank God, our Salvatorian Priests from Poland are SOLID. Let GOD be the judge of the hearts of those who have NO. Latin Mass. God bless you Dr. Marshall.
My daughter is discerning colleges and Steubenville is on the list. I shared this video with her.
My twin daughters both attend Franciscan. It’s an amazing university, very faith filled.
Your daughter should consider Benedictine in Atchison, Kansas.
I'd stay away. Go to Christendom. The leadership at FU is lacking.
Resist! Call & write the Bishop, and go underground or find a different location for TLM. Do not allow them to take the Traditional Latin Mass from your lives.
Speaking from experience from a WI diocese, most bishops don't care about TLM going Catholics and what feeds them spiritually. These same bishops also make no effort to understand us and are puzzled by why we don't go to the Novus Ordo. They have no idea we typically are younger families who have fled the Novus dis-Ordo mess.
Yes! Resist! Stop laying down and taking this crap
There’s one a mile away.
I heard in Australia The Bishop has to make a request to The Vatican to have Latin Mass.Ridiculous if true Pope.Francis hates Traditional.and says its a dead religion. Cancelling doesn't preserve TLM.God Bless you all in America.Renate Ballarat Victoria Australia. Keep.prayers.going for the Church.
Just gets worse and worse...
Sadly
As a student of Franciscan who goes to St. Peter’s every Sunday, it’s always packed. 50% of the time it’s standing room only anyways
Do they ever have High TLM there.
@@nnovo3122 once a month on the first Sunday
When I was in high school and grade school we had the Latin mass
Send your kids to Ave Maria University in Florida. TLM every week. Best Catholic college no question.
Nope, not the best, but good. Thomas Aquinas College in CA and MA is the best.
@@patriciaeb1320 Cali is a horrible state to live in, though.
@@patriciaeb1320 California 😭💀
@@EpoRose1 MA is just as bad…
Sean - Why would they destroy their university by doing so? The university has nothing to do with that decision. Shame on you for suggesting they leave the institution they love.
I know a doctor who built a chapel in her house for the celebration of TLM.
Private chapels, and the SSPX, may be what saves TLM.
The SSPX certainly. Lefevre was a visionary
The SSPX did save the traditional Mass - 53 years ago and counting.
All the diocesan indult masses and the FSSP only exist as a way to draw people away from the SSPX.
There was a city in the US (can’t remember the name) that had no traditional Mass for years. The SSPX opened a chapel and it flourished.
The diocesan Bishop brought the FSSP to the same town, just down the street from the SSPX.
They put flyers on the windshields of the cars parked at the SSPX chapel, telling them they were being disobedient and in schism, and that they should go to the FSSP Mass instead.
Eventually the faithful from the SSPX Mass all went down the street to the FSSP Mass.
The SSPX had to close and leave town.
No sooner had they gone, the diocesan bishop kicked the FSSP out of town, and the faithful ended up with nothing but the Novus Ordo.
Don’t underestimate these people and their cunning tactics!
The SSPX doesnt fulfill our Sunday obligation and Lefevre wasnt the saint we are told he is. Check out John Salza's interview on Pints With Aquinas.
@@Mike-pf1ru I didn’t know this JW tactic happened…however, I do know it was common in the ‘90s that the FSSP was intentionally given a parish a mile or 2 away from an SSPX chapel in the same city (instead of putting them in another part of the diocese).
@@hamie7624 Mass with the SSPX certainly does fulfill the Sunday obligation ,and this has been decreed numerous times by the Vatican. Mr. Salza is throughly dishonest in his statements abut the SSPX ,and Monseigneur Lefebvre.
I think most NO Priests are very comfortable with the NO Missae. The TLM requires at least 6 genuflections and constant prayer. The TLM makes NO Priests look uninvolved in the Mass.
I attended a Novus Ordo mass in Scotland and to say it was like a Protestant service is no understatement---even a high church Anglican service is more Catholic.
See "The Novus Ordo is Protestant service " by Father Murr. 🙏🌴
NOt really. the sacrifice is the same, regardless if the Mass is done poorly. Any Prot. service can never be compared to a Catholic Mass in any form, poorly conducted or not.
@@johnmorgan4313 Then what do you believe about the Eucharistic miracles that have been reported as happening during NO rites?
@@nnovo3122 In the Russian, Greek and Coptic churches the consecration is valid, but those churches are not Catholic. In the Novus ordo the consecration is valid, but is the Novus ordo Catholic ???
See Council of Trent Session 7 Canon 13 and Session 22. Plus The Apostolic Constitution "QUO PRIMUM" (online) of POPE SAINT PIUS FIFTH of 14th July, AD 1570.
Also DENZINGER 677 ; DENZINGER SCHONMETZER 856 & 1613. 🙏🌴
Alba - How can you compare the Novus Ordo mass to a protestant service? I love the TLM but I attend a Novus Ordo mass. The two masses are equally vallid they both celebrate the Eucharist (Body, Blood and Divinity of Christ). No protestant church ever celebrates our Eucharist, at least they know (Except for the Anglican Service) they can't celebrate a real Eucharist. The Anglicans deceive themself as Dr. Taylor found that our and left the Anglican priesthood years ago. And today many of them are leaving too.
My pastor here outside Syracuse is an FUS grad. VERY good shepherd to our flock!! He's in his mid-'40s.
This decision is going to hurt the university.
I got to go to One Latin Mass, I Loved It and Hope to go again.
Oh NOoooooooo! I was looking at the college for my son. 😢 Guess I should cross it Off the list like we did for Notre Dame. Sick to my stomach.
Look at Benedictine. They do not make decisions based on public relations and appearences.
Steubenville is also a craphole on a polluted river.
Thank you Doctor Marshall and Eric Sammons. God bless you both.
Matt Fradd would have been great to have on this because he lives in
Steubenville.
Don't despair, make repair. The rosary is a powerful weapon of sanctity. Let there be a rosary where the Latin Mass was.
Apples and oranges rosary and Latin Mass
Prayers that we are able to keep the Latin mass 🙏🏼❤️
When I was a kid, our parish had outgrown its tiny church, so we had Mass - Latin, because that's all there was - in the Catholic School gymnasium.
So, even in the old days the venue wasn't always appropriate
St Mary’s?
Love the Blessed Mother! Never, ever let go of her guiding hand that will lead us to Jesus. Pray the Rosary daily for her intentions. Thank you.
Proud Franciscan online grad student and I was so disappointed to hear. Luckily we still have ours across the state line in PA…for now.
I wish there were a pledge for the novena, it would be interesting to know what the support is like. I will add this novena to my Lenten practice, merging it with the international Una Voce call to pray for the liberation of the Tridentine Mass (so a 4-fold intention). Thank you for getting this out to the faithful. God bless you both.
Better up the prayers and sacrifices
My son was at Fr. Pivonka’s “meeting.” It didn’t go down as charitably as described. Fr. Pivonka only tolerated the TLM. He never, ever, supported it. The TLM club at FUS is closer to 250 than 200.
Thank you for saying so.
Can't trust CNA worth a squat.
That's not surprising. He wouldn't be in charge of the university if he was.
Doctor Taylor, could you interview Scott Hann with respect to this tlm removal. As an Indian Catholic We would like to hear from him.
Yes I would like to hear his thoughts about this
Praying the 10% stand up!
🙏🙏🙏 Thank you both.
If I were 45 minutes from a Society Mass I know where I would be going to Mass every Sunday. I live in the Columbus area and sometimes travel 2 hours to get to a Society Mass in the Cleveland area even though we have the Institute in town. It’s worth the drive guys! When they shut you down make sure you flood that Society chapel 45 minutes away too.
Based
Ours is a tiny chapel but yeah will get flooded
it's time to defy the bishop or have the kids go underground and have TLM mass... this is insane what the bishop is doing
ABSOLUTELY NOT! You obey your Bishop unless it is a sin, which this is not.
Correct
@@TheDjcarter1966 Absolutely wrong. When a bishop acts against the faith - and most of them do now, most of the time - you refuse to follow them into Protestantism (or worse). Period.
@@TheDjcarter1966 Offering God false worship is a sin.
The Bishop is probably not any too fond of FUS as it has a reputation of turning out theologically orthodox grads. Consider that.
This is an opportunity to learn sacrifice by attending less convenient masses.
It would be more productive than shooting yourselves in the foot.
ALL of the students need to defend the TLM. Imagine -the church hierarchy not promoting freedom of religion.
Freedom of religion is contrary to the Catholic faith if it involves false religions. I do however agree that the Church should allow freedom in the choice of worship in what rite one attends.
In the background painting of the guest Millets’s painting if peasant man and woman saying the Angelus. Beautiful
Keep the good fighting 🙏🏽📿
God Bless these Young Adults
My son graduated from Steubenville and he felt the teaching was traditional and correct, but the FOP’s and Mass at the Chapel were awful. He went to St. Peter’s for Mass.
What is an FOP?
@@nnovo3122 Festival of Praise
@@sarahruf1589 Thanks. That makes sense.
how can a Mass be "awful"? Gee
Please. He removed the one exempt on purpose and gave a lame excuse to totally eliminate while appearing supportive
Why are these bishops canceling the Latin Mass. what are they afraid of?
Francis and their "promotion".
Excellent discussion and praying for these intentions and the wayward Bishops. They must not remember Church History.
I attend the TLM at St. Peter. The Novus Ordo is done ad orientum. There are quite a few Franciscan students at the 12 noon Mass so during the those times when the students are present they take up whole pews. so I guess they carpool. I say for all the rest "come on down" The neighborhood isn't as bad as it is made out. We'll find room. No problem.
Do they ever have a High Mass TLM at St. Peters?
@@nnovo3122 Yes the first Sunday of the month. Get there early it will be packed.
I really wish church can be daily where I live!! I love church! God bless you all! ✝️✝️
The NO church where I live and have gone to is a reverent mass and you receive communion on the tongue . They are planning to make the church less plain and want to redo it so it’s beautiful and to move all of the pews so that they are facing directly on the Eucharist . That makes me feel a smidgen better if go there again .
So sad! Students need to try and reverse this!
The devil’s time must be VERY short, as we’re seeing non-stop insults and sacriledge. We’re seeing his despiration play out. We should double our efforts to fight the evil, and give praise to Jesus Christ! Saying two Rosary’s a day would be a great start.
Prayer 🙏 plus ACTION
Hey Glad Trads, just saying...here at St. Mary's Academy and College in St. Mary's Kansas you can attend Latin Mass everyday.
I have been on Novus Ordo Masses and we're done in perfectly liturgical way, high reverence on beautiful altar. It is possible to do it...But it's true most of them are far away of that.
I think TLM is so amazing because no matter where you are from or what language you speak, you are home at TLM. It bridges all linguistic barriers.
Have a great rest of your day.🙏🏽
Oooo
Love to come and pray the Rosary with all of them.
THANK YOU!!!
The way the bishops give their burnt offerings to the false ‘shepherds’ in Rome is like paying the cannibals to eat you last. Just say no! Bishops have the authority to say no and the pope does not have the authority to shut down the Mass of the Ages.
God help us.
Great Talk
And that was a great college. Wow, how disappointing.
Yes, but this was not the actions of the university. The school is subject to the bishop simply due to its location in the diocese. Franciscan continues to grow strong.
I don’t think he has authority to change this celebration. Just keep it going . Ignore the Bishops who are stepping outside of their boundaries.
Yes, thank you, I agree. Also ignore the other big brother when they order the church closed for the C Demic
This is so horribly sad
But our Lord did tell us there would be a great apostasy and here it is
Very Disappointing. What a shameful thing that the bishop of Steubenville did.
It’s all sickening..
There is something in the practicing of the Latin mass they do not want to continue. Someone is feeling threatened in the practice. Why?
Yes Satan
Demons hate Latin…
These acts against the TLM are diabolical.
God Bless the beauty of the church ❤️
Shame on that bishop. He will regret...
Dumping the TLM is like dumping the art in the Louvre and say, "why do we need that old stuff when we have Andy Warhol?"
I love Latin mass. We had Latin mass on the 60, 70th it all changed
I pray that it all comes back
God bless 🙌 🙏 ❤️ 💖 ✨️
Turn that low Mass into a sung high Mass! They’ve got the schola for St Peters now. 🎼 🎶 🙏🙏
My daughter will not be going to Steubenville for college.