Evolution of Spanish AVE Trains: Explained
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- Our today’s plan is to bring to a conclusion the story of the Spanish railways - by discussing the development and evolution of the AVE trains (of course, we did not miss the opportunity to mention other trainsets that also operate on the AVE network).
This episode is interesting because we talk about different manufacturers that produce the rolling stock for the Spanish market, but also the open architecture of the Spanish HSR tracks and structures, that allow the use of those different manufacturers.
This is actually quite different from the approaches of the majority of HSR countries, where the infrastructure is designed to work with only one, or a specific type of manufacturer.
As we pointed out in the last episode, most of the HSR network in Spain is covered by the ERTMS system, so almost all trains, in addition to the Spanish train management system, also have an onboard ERTMS device. Some of them also operate in France.
We spoke about the design and performance of the Renfe Classes 100, 101, 102, 112, 103, 106, Avant S-104, S-114, S-121, Alvia S-120, S-130, and S-730.
Do you think we managed to present the main aspects of the Spanish AVE trains? Tell us in the comments below!
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Every time I have used the Spanish AVE train systems, it has been pleasant an enjoyable experience. Traveling in Spain's train network is a delight!
not much of a delight for those who use it often
@@swaree Why? I know, that the regional trains are a problem, but AVE is the best high speed service, you can get in europe
@@swaree pero si los ave no dan problemas
@@morienpause2363 regional/commuter trains seem abandoned by Renfe (as RE said, AVE is where they invest the most by a great margin): frequent delays and cancellations, low quality information channels for customers, some stations are barely or not maintained at all, desirable frequencies, etc. as for AVE, now we're seeing Avlo, Ouigo, SNCF, and other companies but there's still no significant competition and prices are high
@@danielsancha6385 dijo la red ferroviaria, no solo AVE
That system they've got for changing between 1435 and 1668 milimetre gauge whilst still on the move, is truly inspired!
today's news in the Spanish press: The Madrid-Barcelona high-speed line has increased 20% data from 2019 (pre-pandemic). If the liberalization of the sector continues to affect the drop in ticket prices these numbers will grow much more.
Cool video.
It’s a bit sad that talgo didn’t follow the duck nose trend on the final design of the talgo avril.
I suppose that one of the reasons is that the new tractor is more compact than the previous one, and there was not much aerodynamic gain by sticking out the nose.
The new set is not more attractive because of that detail, but on the other hand it looks really compact and integrated throughout the set. One of the most compact and light in the world. For me that is also a very characteristic sign of a Talgo.
The S/102, S/112, S/130, S/730 and prototype S/107 Avril's characteristic nose shape is patented by Bombardier and Talgo didn't reach an agreement to keep using it, hence the new, uglier shape.
Just one clarification:
The locomotive of the AVE S-102/-112 (Duck) and S-130 (Duckling) are also designe and manufactured by Spanish company TALGO, but the traction system of the locomotive is from Bombardier company.
As I understand it, the TALGO Avril is completely Spanish (I personally liked the previous desing with the shape of ducks's bill better).
I miss renfe a lot since I live in the UK…I wish they could bring some of them units to operate here
There is also the RENFE class 107. They are dual gauge, dual voltage using new Talgo Avril locomotives with refurbished Talgo VII carriages modified for dual gauge and 300km/h. These carriages were previously used in the cancelled Trenhotel service. Talgo calls these units "Serie-107"
And the non-dual gauge 106! But to be fair, they are not on service yet...
Wasn't it the S-106? I love these trains, am from spain, but i've never been to an AVE, only to "Cercanias"
@@MEGATBLAZER The Talgo S-106 (Renfe class 106) are 100% new. The Talgo S-107 are new locomotives with refurbished carriages. This is from Talgo's page:
En junio de 2018, Renfe adjudicó a Talgo la reforma de más de un centenar de coches de viajeros de la serie 7 de Talgo, plataforma tecnológica de la que también forman parte las series 130 y 730. Estas unidades habían sido operadas por Renfe inicialmente bajo la marca comercial “Trenhotel” y estaban especialmente diseñadas para servicios nocturnos en líneas con ancho de vía tanto ibérico como estándar europeo, aunque con una velocidad máxima limitada a 220 km/h. Carecían además de tracción, al tratarse de ramas remolcadas.
El encargo especificaba la necesidad de convertir esas unidades al tráfico diurno, elevando su velocidad comercial máxima a más de 300 km/h, pero manteniendo en todo caso su capacidad de cambio automático de ancho de vía. Tres años después del contrato inicial, Renfe adjudicaba además a Talgo la fabricación de 26 cabezas tractoras, dos para cada tren. Ambos encargos permitirán la creación de 13 trenes completos de muy alta velocidad que podrán operarse en la práctica totalidad de la red ferroviaria electrificada española, cantidad que se elevaría a 19 trenes en el caso de ejecutarse todas las opciones reservadas por la operadora
And s-105
I like when the Country High Speed Train Operator have many variants of High Speed Train.
Yeah but headaches for engineer and technicians, standardisation will be better in terms of maintenance issues
If Madrid-Seville HSR (and maybe other HSR lines) constructed in Iberian gauge, maybe rollingstock will be much more standardized, because you don't have to deal with different gauge, except for international services to France
Personally i like push pull type instead of EMu, they are just simple
But they're more confusing tho. I like it when a country stick to one train family (France with TGV and Japan with Shinkansen)
Great video and great channel, guys! As a railfan for over 30 years, I must admit you guys managed to create one of the best railroad channels on YT! Thumbs up! Greetings from Brazil!
Thank you 😊
Congratulations to the author.
Once again, all credit to the author of the video and greetings from Zagreb Croatia
Hvala i pozdrav iz Beograda 😉
Your content is impressive, and attention to detail is fulfilling.
Thank you 🙂
Muy buena exposicion de los trenes Españoles.....Oviedo,España,UE....
7:17 The S/102 and S/112 have better acceleration overall than the S/103. This is very noticeable if you've ever driven the 112 and 103 series in the Madrid-Barcelona line, which I have; the 103 struggles to pick up speed on ramps and doesn't top out at 300 km/h as quickly as the 112. I have to admit the driving cab and seat is more comfortable in the 103 than the 102/112, though.
I dont agree it took 3 mins 45mins to get up too 186 from 0 one of tge fastest
I don't know what that 186 is about, but the top speed is 300 in that line. Plus, your experience as a passenger is highly subjective. Driving conditions, ETCS, being way ahead of schedule... There are many factors that affect a train's speed, which is what you probably experienced. But when one drives both series it's apparent the 112 is more of a powerhouse than the 103.
@@El-Mengu 186mph maybe?
Never drove with AVE Renfe but i want to,because they look really nice!And 7:00 looks like an Nederlandse Spoorweg ICE,drives on ICE 126 to Amsterdam Centraal.
These are rare successful gauge change trains in the world
Super interesting video! Great job like always.. 👌
Maybe RENFE could change the train system here in Ireland. It's very old.
Great vid. I would love to travel on these trains on the Spanish high speed rail network in the future
Class 102,112, Alvia S-130, and S-730 are the famous design and the best one for Renfe
I’m so excited to watch this video!!!!!
Wasn't there at some point in the early 2000s also a Pendolino (equivalent to italian ETR460/470) in service between Madrid and Valencia (and possibly somewhere else), running on iberian gauge?
Probably the Class 490. Cracks were found and they have been in storage for >5 years. Last month Renfe looked at repairing some of them for use in an intercity or regional service in lines that are being electrified like Madrid-Salamanca-Portugal
El tren hibrido, S-730, osea 173, puede funcionar en vía con catenaria, y también en vías sin catenaria, ya que entre las locomotoras y el corte de coches, lleva un manso en cada extremo, que realmente es un equipo electrógeno, osea una central de la luz rodante, es como en el caso de por ejemplo la serie 200 son locomotoras eléctricas, como son las 252 la 253 que son las de más modernidad, o el la serie 300 que son de combustión interna, la 333, las 334, las 335 por ejemplo pues son de las más modernas...
Pues hay la serie 600, que se llaman bitrac ahora mismo solo existe una, la 01.1, 601, que puede tener tracción por catenaria, y también en vías sin catenaria, al tener dentro una central eléctrica movida por un motor térmico.
Creo que esos mansos de la S-730 y esa central de la 010.1, tienen pensado en el futuro sean motores de hidrógeno.
Awesome trains 👌
Did you mix up some pictures? In the class 100/101 section I see numerous pictures of class 102/112 Talgo sets. Which makes this video a bit confusing.
Great video! Thanks!
Thank you
denada
Great video!
Thanks!
i've been on the class 103 madrid-malaga
The first Talgo AVRIL (Class 106) in November 2023
Awesome trains.
Se te ha olvidado poner el nuevo logo del AVE
Great video, i love how your videos are really attention grabbing and interesting, i never get bored watching.
Glad you like them!
Así es tenemos una muy buena Red de Ferrocarriles, AVE ESPAÑA, somos un referente mundial, España Loveeeeeee os esperamos a todos ♥️ 🇪🇦😉😉♥️
If that doesn't mean interoperability, then I don't know what could mean! 🤔😅
Habrá algún video explicando la evolución de los trenes de cercanías de España? Saludos!!
Se van a renovar pronto
@@klausbriesma9050 renovar el que?
@@jcc9537 los trenes de cercanías, estan fabricando una gigantesca tanda de nuevos trenes!
Svaka čast za video, keep up the good work :))))
Hvala puno 🙂
Could you please make a Video absolut the polish rail system
Will be
✋ Good job 👏👌🤝
Wow nice view, I like to see new places ✌
Great movie 👍 Bravo 👋
And I have a new movie from a walk around the city 😊
Regards, DJ Janusz from Warsaw Poland ✌ 🇵🇱✋
Helo sir I like your video. Please one video on pakistan railway please
Any info on Avant Class 114 based on ETR 600?
Btw informative video! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
It is just a 4 carriage version of the New Pendolino (similar to the ETR 600 but without the tilting mechanism) and in use for high speed medium distance services (Avant)
Kereta api yang sangat keren 👍
After the fatal tragedies of HSR in Germany, Spain, and China, I see why it's so important for Japan to capitalize on safety for its shinkansen. Even today, I have full confidence that I won't be killed if I ride in one. In the end, everyone just wants to get from point A to point B, and my heart goes out to the riders who have lost their lives.
wheres the dutch railway video? its gone?
Siemens class ice 3
This model is made in Spain by Siemens and Talgo
Can you do one about Chinese trains?
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My dad drives this kind of trains,any questions?
Waiting for RAIL NATION INDIA🇮🇳
没引进西班牙的高铁列车是中国的一大遗憾
西班牙的高铁列车很适合中国的，可惜当年铁道部眼瞎了，引进了那么多家的技术
But why Manggarai known as the 1st Central station at Indonesia wasn't explained?
Honey... A maglev can reach speeds even faster and greater than this shit... This bucket of bolts it is what it is because this is profitable... A maglev not. From a maglev nobody profits, except the passengers.
A maglev network of this size would bankrupt the government
I love this channel, but this video made no sense at all…
Hello. This could be an interesting video, however I have no idea what I just watched. I think your line delivery is quite monotonous and hard to follow. Please consider either *improving your delivery* skills, or writing shorter, simpler sentences.