My New Favorite Laptop! - Lenovo ThinkBook 16p [ RTX 4060 + 13900h ]
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- This ThinkBook is a LEGION in all but name. And i love it
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Timeline:
0:00 Specs, Options, and Pricing.
2:27 First Look
3:35 Internals and Upgrades
5:45 1600p vs 3.2k Screen Options
7:00 Audio Test
7:32 Keyboard and Trackpad
8:50 Vantage, Overclocking, and Performance modes
10:17 Webcam and Mic
10:59 Advanced Optimus and RAM/SSD specs
12:12 Benchmarks
14:26 1600p vs 3.2k Screen Gaming Performance
15:44 Performance, Balanced, and Silent Modes
16:26 Gaming Performance - Baldur's Gate - Various Settings (1600p)
19:28 Gaming Performance - Witcher 3 - Various Settings (3.2k & 1600p)
22:21 I'm in love..... Conclusions and summary
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Interesting option! Sounds like you get a few minor improvements. However for anyone considering this over a pre-built Legion 7/7i slim model, I priced out the ThinkPad 16p on the Lenovo Canada website and it’s quite a bit more expensive. A pre-built Legion slim 7i with i7, 4060, and 1Tb SSD, can be had for $1500-$1700 CAD (or less for the AMD option). The ThinkPad 16p is a “build your PC” type. To bring it up to the same specs, it comes out to $2060 including coupons. And that’s if you go with the default display, which looks to have inferior specs (lower nits, refresh rate not even listed) to the one that comes default with the legion 7/7i slim models.
I guess a more apples-to-apples comparison would be with a “build your PC” variant of the Legion 7i slim, same specs but both monitors upgraded. If you’re doing this, then the ThinkPad comes out $80 cheaper. But really the only reason to go this route is if you needed that higher res monitor which doesn’t come as an option with any pre-builts. But then you’d be paying $500 more for a monitor that has some perceivable improvements for content-creators, but some major tradeoffs for gamers.
Maybe the build-your-own options were a cheaper when this vid was made, but they’re a lot more expensive now AFAICT.
Awesome review. I was considering he Slim Pro 9i until it went out of stock, then I was looking a the legion slim 7i, until I found this thinkbook. I use it for office work but also graphic design. it arrives soon, very excited. Also congratulations you are the first (north American) review I have seen on You Tube for this laptop. Great job.
Have got the laptop? What is your impression?
I'm waiting anxiously for the follow up with comparison between Thinkbook 16p gen 4 vs Legion Slim 7i gen 8 - I'm considering right now to get one of them to be my everyday workhorse. Unfortunetly there is only one Slim 7 config in my region available to buy - with 240Hz 1600p screen, i7 and 4060 - if that would be with the 165Hz 2000p screen, I would buy right away. TB 16p seems to be nice - in my region is available (on inquiry...) with i9 and the 165Hz screen. After your TB 16p review I found just one drawback - 2242 m.2 slot.
I've recently bought exactly this model for my GF as a birthday gift. I've picked this one only from looking at the spec sheet from seller's webshop (which is never a good idea). So I decided to search for some reviews to check what I actually bought. I must say, I'm quite impressed! Actually, I'm jealous, I'm tempted to keep it for myself and give her a flower or something. lol
👌Great review!
what she got flower or laptop?? 😄😄
Thanks for this excellent review. Did my homework, purchased it, absolutely thrilled with this laptop. Fantastic build quality and top class performance. ✌️👍
Nice! Enjoy
How is the dan noise? Do you hear fans when browsing or watching videos?
Great review, appreciate the new conclusions & summary chapter! Funny that you say "if you are considering the Legion pro 5i, don't buy it", because my situation is that this would be my dream laptop. I even ordered it (to be precise, the Slim 7), but it came with two different defects and I had to return it after 2 days. And the whole return process somehow took 1.5 months! 10+ phone calls and 20+ emails and lenovo support showcased complete inability at every single step of the process. I'm considering the Pro 5i just because a 3rd party reseller currently has a deal on it (1300 EUR for 13500HX, 4060, 32GB, 1TB, 500nit 240Hz screen, Windows). So its not only 200 EUR cheaper than the same Thinkbook 16p / Slim 7 config, but more importantly, dealing with potential return is way less hassle and time, and I want to have a gaming laptop by Christmas. So is the Pro 5i that much worse, even in this case?
Than this? The 5i is fine. Just less premium.
Aka plastic trackpad, not as nice keyboard. Not as nice screen. Worse speakers. But gaming performance will be the same
If the price is the same get the Thinkbook. If big price gap get the legion 5/5i
The beast for that ThinkBook line up. I wish it was ThinkPad though.
Thanks for this great review! I have ordered mine with 3.2k screen today - can't wait to hold it in my hands.
NICE!
How is it performing? Can you please tell about battery life, gaming performance, heating and fan noise? thanks
Do you have a lot fan noise in normal usage like opening 10+ chrome tabs or watching youtube?
@@sevalozturk7531 Normally it's completely quiet during simple tasks like browsing with several tasks, watching youtube or office stuff. Sometimes the fans switch on for a few seconds without seeing any reason for that. I have seen this behavior with a lot of Windows notebooks - it seems to be more a problem of Windows(maybe thread scheduling) than the Laptop itself.
@@TannyG Battery life is around 6 to 7 hours with simple tasks.
Till now I can't say anything about gaming performance because I didn't have time for gaming.
Purchased mine about a week ago, still waiting for shipping (expedited options). So excited!
Well shit, it just shipped and will be here in 2 days!
how it performs@@j.e9971
@@j.e9971how do you like it?
Best Review, thanks a lot!
nice video !
Thanks for the review
What kind of SDD used to upgrade at the 2242 slot?
Great review. For those of us who have sensitive eyes, do you know if the 3.2k screen utilizes PWM? I know that IPS panels generally don't have PWM but in the past Lenovo has implemented it in their IPS panels. I'd love to get the 3.2k screen but I'm only able to test out the 2.5k version at my local store. If you could test it for us it'd be awesome.
Hey nice review!
Should i buy Legion 7 pro or Thinkbook P16 or Yoga 9i pro? Please suggest!
Thanks for the review. Im thinking of getting this laptop with 32GB ram, 13700h processor, and 1600p screen. Basically, its the cheapest laptop I can get with the stated specs. I need some processing power and I think the i7 will be good enough for the next 4-5 years.
This laptop costs 300 euros less than slim7 with same screen, better cpu performance and more ram. Also from here the screen size looks bigger than Slim7 so that's a benefit on my side Thank you for your review I am seriously considering to buy this
Hi,
nice test! I have noticed that there is one version of this laptop named 'ThinkBook 16p G4' and one 'ThinkBook 16p G4 IRH'. What is the difference and what does IRH stand for?
Another question is, how hot does the part of the notebook get where the palm of the hands rest. I read its getting hot even while doing office work or programming. What is you expercience after your three weeks?
Thanks for the great test. Im looking forward to the comparisson between the Thinkbook and the Legion 7 / 7i. Would be nice to have them befor the Black Friday sale at Lenovo ends, becaus I can not decide which one to get. During the day I would do progamming and gaming during the afternoon or week end .
And which one would you expect to be the coolest and most quiet one Legion Slim 7, Legion Slim 7i, ThinkBook 16p G4? Thanks for you efforts and keep up the great work!
I have similar questions, I'll leave this comment here in case he answers
Thanks for the review.
what kind of ssd used to upgrade at the 2242 slot?
Hey Beau, love your vids. I can get this laptop now for around 1600eu - I'd rather get the legion slim 7 AMD but it has been out of stock for a while (and I doubt they're gonna restock it at all honestly since the new lineup is coming up). Do you think it's a good buy at that price? How's the battery life (I'd be getting the i7)? I can hardly find any info online on it. Also, it looks like the gen5 with the much more efficient intel chips is around the corner...
Idk, I'm torn between this one, the legion slim 5 14, or waiting for a bit
Thanks
Hello thanks for the detailed video.
Can I get your idea about ThinkBook 16p and Yoga Pro 9i (2024)?
My main concern is for the fan noise. Yoga is very silent. What about the ThinkBook? Is the same cooling system?
ThinkBook is better for me because of RAM upgradability option.
ThinkBook 16p comes with wifi 6, but Slim 7 comes with wifi 6e. I wish ThinkBook has an AMD option (power efficiency/battery life is important to me), so I end up getting the Slim 7 (both are about the same price for me).
Please compare this Thinkbook 16p with the Legion Yoga Pro 9i 16".
I will be getting these exact specs (except I'll have the 32GB RAM) for work and I am absolutely thrilled. Premiere Pro should work so much better now. Can't wait to get my hands on this machine myself.
Have you tried it yet? Please share your exp!
I am staying in the UK, and I was thinking about getting the legion slim 7i but it not available, this laptop is though. Great review!
This is a fantastic laptop, and you will love it just as much as you would love the Legion
Does the screen use PWM to regulate the brightness? I have really sensitive eyes. It would be great to know that it's flicker-free. Thanks for the review!
Hey man great video! I had a question hoping you can help!! Trying to decide between the Legion Slim 7i and the Thinkbook 16p G4 (the one in your video). The Slim 7i right now doesn't allow you to "build your own", so it only has the 1600p screen. I would be using the laptop for content creation (video editing, photoshop), so I think the 3.2k screen in the Thinkbook would be better. However, Thinkbook only has 80WH battery, Legion 99.9WH. How is the battery life on the Thinkbook vs the Legion? Thank you!
I tossed my answer on the legion video. I hope it helps
i notice that the SAMSUNG-logo showing when you hace booth screens open, was different in the ptotos. On the Legion the white colored fonts where white. On the Thinkbook the fonts were blue. So someting with contrast that was different I guess.
Abaout the keyboard - TinkPad make the best ones - of all brands. ;)
Can you run a Fedora live image and tell us know how it runs? I wish more reviews would throw us Linux heads the most minimal of bones.
Great review. Would you get a 16" legion slim 7 AMD 7840HS or this thinkbook? Primarily for business/coding.
They will be very similar.
Amd will have much better batter. And has some nice legion perks
The Thinkbook has better speakers and keyboards and slightly better cooling. It s stint bit heavier
To be honest if the price is hugely different get the cheaper. If they are similar go with amd for battery or intel for the extra goodies
I have this laptop and while I do love the performance, I wish I could run legion toolkit and have all the customizable gaming features that legions have.
Bro help please which one to get this one or legion slim 7 I'll use it for gaming and programming also web browser so what do you think in terms of quality wise , thanks bro
Is fan noise low under normal usage like opening 15+ chrome tabs or watching youtube videos?
Thank you for this great comparison between these two devices.
How loud is the ThinkBook in idle mode? Can you hear the fans then?
I'm looking for a laptop that is as quiet as possible in idle mode.
The Thinkbook fans aren’t on in idle. So it’s silent
Is there a big difference between the 60Hz display and the 165Hz display?
Unfortunately, when I select the notebook with the RTX4060, I only get the 60Hz display 😒
Excellent video, I just bought this lapotop! I have just one general question, is it always worth to overclock the GPU and CPU? What are the risks/reasons to not do it?
I just leave mine overclocked. Since you can disabled the gpu entirely for battery life anyways
Hi, I have a few Questions:
1. How big is the difference between this two devices in terms of the display on time?
2. Is the typing experience on the 16p better in comparison?
Thank you for the comparison, I was looking for this exact video👍
The power on time is about the same. The legion is a great keyboard…. But the 16p has the best laptop keyboard I’ve ever used
is battery hammered on the better screen?
Would you pick this over the gen 9 5i Legion/Pro?
How’s the battery life?
Nice review! I'm a creator and last year i bought the gigabyte aero 16. Besides the oled screen, that laptop is the worst laptop i've owned. It runs super hot quick, the fan noise gets loud randomly. Even when im not doing anything. The trackpad is also bad! So im looking to buy a new laptop and i like your reviews. I was stuck between 2 laptops (legion slim 7 amd and the slim 9ipro). Now with this review, the thinkbook doesn't seem bad at all. Can you do like a 3 way comparison of these 3 laptops? If not which one do you suggest? Thanks and keep up the great work.
I don’t have them all but I can summarize all of them, since I have owned all three. If you’d like. Also please give me relative price as that helps me make recommendations
@@TechGuyBeau ok, a summary is also great! I saw the 9i pro for around $1700 dollar on Bhphoto. The slim 7 amd was around $1400,- and the thinkbook if i recall was around $1500,-. Obviously the most bang for buck would be great. But also which is purely the best. Which one would you buy and why? Thank you and once again keep up the great work!
@@quindryeisden4833
Legion 7 slim amd
Best battery. Best all rounder. Runs quiet and cool. Good upgrade. Legion warranty is noice. Lowest cost. 1600p screen good for gaming. 3.2 k screen amazing for creatives. Decent speakers.
2nd best keyboard.
Slim 9i: most premium. Easily the best screen (mini led…). The most “MacBook” like. Battery not great. Performance is good. Weakest for
Gaming. Amazing speakers.
Extremely expensive (but your price is good). Good keyboard. Least upgradeable
Thinkbook 6p: best cooling of the bunch. Also amazing speakers. Great screen IF you get 3.2k model. CPU from
13500h to 13900h (so pick your poision). Middling battery. Really great temperature. Best gaming performance. Middling price. Best keyboard. Dual sodimm for upgrades.
The thinnest is the 9i, then the 7 slim, then the Thinkbook. But all are not chonky. These are all very premium. If battery life matters amd 7 slim wins by default, no contest. Otherwise might lean you towards on of the other two.
Thank you for the breakdown! The thinkbook is the ram upgradeble to 64g?
@@quindryeisden4833yes
Insane review on this machine, thank you!
As far as I've never seen or used lenovo laptops I wonder, are all these cool features of Thinkbook worth overpaying 500$ instead of buying Legion 5 pro? In my country 5 pro r9 7945hx 4060 costs 1300$ and thinkbook16p 1800$. The same is legion slim 7 r7845hs - 1800$. What do you think?
It’s very similar to the legion 7 slim. The price of the 5 pro is quite good. It’s not quite as nice but its performance will be basically the same.
@@TechGuyBeauThank you for your response! It helped a lot🙏
Lenovo's keyboard is sick!
This one is particularly nice
Hey Beau, excellent video. When choosing a Lenovo laptop, if I don't game, is it better to go with AMD or Intel?
It won’t make a huge difference. I often go AMD since it provided better battery life and temperatures. Assuming the prices are similar go amd for your needs
@@TechGuyBeau Thanks, yeah, I want whatever has the lowest temps and most power efficiency.
@@squatch545absolutely AMD
I wonder how it handles World of Warcraft at high - ultra settings in 25 man dungeons or 40 man PvP scenarios
Hello, i just bought the model with 16gb and i7 processor and according to the box the rtx 4060. It also comes with the nvidia studio sticker. Just wanted to test the graphics but the system does not show the rtx4060. No nvidia software whatsoever. My bios is set to switchable graphics. It does show the intel iris graphics but not a sign of nvidia. Installed the nvdidia studio driver but it indicates no compatible hardware. Any tips? Maybe it is broken?
Здравствуйте! Подскажите thinkbook 16 p g4 поддерживает технологию "g-sync"?
This specs are same of the legion 5 slim but in my country there is huge prize differences. I will buy it for engineering purposes and games but i am in irresolute. Can thinkbook get over the games and design apps
I wonder, does 2560x1600 res. look blurry on this 3.2k screen?
Hello! Does this laptop support nvidia g sync? Lenovo legion 7 slim with the same screen has g-sync support. And how critical is it?
Bro the follow up video asap please It will make my life much easier 😂❤
Very thorough and informative 👍. One minor correction, the 1600p screen on the Legion Slim 7 AMD is 500 nits vs 400 nits on the ThinkBook 16p.
Minor correction, 430 nits on the 16p trchnically ;)
That's on the 3.2k screen for the 16p. I was comparing 1600p to 1600p screens :)
edit: but I should have been more clear
I’ve seen a few reviews (albeit in different languages) that they have hit 450nits with the 3.2k screen. Exciting times!
Very nice. Hope Lenovo does an AMD version and gives you the option to exclude a discrete GPU.
it is ideapad 5 pro 16?
Pretty far from it. Ideapad has soldered memory, mediocre speakers, worse screen and lower TDP.@@Razeri
@@viacheslavspitsyn2995 60 wats for 7840 it is overkill yup speakers are worse but it like 40% cheaper 100% srgb 120 hz 2k 300+ nit is great screen
There is nothing I could disagree with. Nonetheless, it is not correct to say that Ideapad is equivalent to 16p without a discrete GPU @@Razeri
There is already a "thinkbook 16 g4" (i know the naming is confusing), you can check that out
why is the cinebench score lower on performance mode than legion slim 7i ?
In your experience, does going with AMD provide much difference in terms of battery life? I'm eyeing up the Legion Slim 7 and I'm not sure which to get. Battery life is more important than performance to me but if the differences are negligible I might go for intel.
Yes amd provides noticeable better battery life
Is it true that not all version of 16p have fingerprint scanner and IR? How do distinguish models that do?
Hi, Can we change GPU power at Silent mode? 25w really bad
pretty cool
Do you remember if it had G-Sync enabled?
Thanks a lot for the review, and I ended up buying one. I was wondering if you know whether double sided nvmes fit the nvme slots, both 2280 and 2242 slot. In particular I want to buy a 2TB 2242 nvme but it's double sided and I'm not sure whether or not it will fit.
The 2242 I put in is double sided . It’s a dual sided Sabrent nano
Thanks for confirming@@TechGuyBeau
Hi, thank you for detailed review, I just wanna ask you, did you try thinkbook with a 120hz or more monitors? In lenovo site the device seems to support only 60hz in monitors, so I just wanna learn, can I use this laptop with 4k 120/144hz monitors?
Over hdmi you can used higher refresh 4K yes.
Bro, love your video...could you pls help with below:-
Actually in my previous office I was given Dell Precision/XPS 15 to use as a daily computer...now I am looking for personal..I have eyesight issues.
1. Dell XPS 17 is very expensive than Lenovo thinkbook 16, which is better?, Dell XPS 17 has bigger screen and very thin bezels, great speakers, silent keyboard pad...what I have heard.
I haven't seen nor nearby my store there is no physical demo of Lenovo thinkbook 16. I am afraid how it will be in terms of screen especially on the other hand Dell xps 17 is double of the cost.
That’s a tough comparison. A thin laptop will run much hotter and is twice the cost. It’s raw performance will be lower
The thicker laptop however is thicker and more industrial in design.
If you really want as sleek as possible the dell will probably win. For raw performance and quality the Lenovo. (Also has a better keyboard).
Both have super screens assuming you get the higher resolution options on either
Thanks for your review bro. I cant decide between this laptops. Legion 7 6800h Radeon RX 6850M XT and Thinkbook i7 rtx4060. which one would you pick? price is quite same. I really want to get slim7 amd but it is out of stock now
The 6850m xt is quite a bit more powerful. I’d get that
The main reason I don't recommend this laptop, is that the Legion slim 7 gen 8 AMD exists, with 7840HS (albeit less powerful) and 99.9Wh battery, AND with this 3.2K screen. All for cheaper (1414 USD) than this version, even with a 13700H (1546 USD) on the Lenovo website (as of Nov 2 2023).
Now if you really need intel with the 3.2K screen, then it's cheaper than the Legion 7i. Also get this if you really must change the RAM yourself, or get paranoid the RAM might die
Truth. This does have some merits over both (you’ll see in my comparison video) such as cooling, and audio.
For me the legion slim 7 gen 8 with the same processor, 32 gb ram, 1000 gb ssd costs the same as the thinkbook 16p with the i9, namely about 1900€.
The big advantage of the legion slim would likely be battery
The speakers on the Thinkbook >
The overall non gamery look of the Thinkbook >
Thinkbook in its "max" config is several hundred dollars cheaper than the Legion Slim 7 Gen 8
The processor on the Thinkbook >>>>> the 7840HS
You cannot undervolt or modify the voltage / speeds of the 7 series HS processors.
Thanks for the great review .Do you have any idea about legion slim 5 and legion pro 5 against this laptop? I want to buy one of them, but I don't know which one is better for me as a computer engineer! I need 64gb of ram and the built quality is so important for me.
I would get this Thinkbook or a slim 7 rather than the pro 5.
The slim 5 is also good.
@@TechGuyBeau Thank you so much for your video, could you please tell me what if i put 64gb of ram on it?
Nice man , dont touch the laptop with the battery connected
Would prefer if 1600x1000 Gaming would've been testet. Should still look good and far more performance than 1600p.
Such a nice looking machine, really want it but I’m a little hung up on the 32gb max ram Lenovo says this system will support and the m.2 2242 ssd for the 2nd slot. The battery is also 20% smaller than the legion 7i slim Thats a little disappointing.
Trying to decide between this and thinkpad p16.
My friend has it working with 64gb now, this literal laptop. So it definitely supports it
The slim 7i will be limited to 16+32gb.
I use a 7 (amd) as my daily driver, but there are some advantages to the Thinkbook such as slightly better cooler, slightly better trackpad and keyboard, and better speakers.
But yes you do lose 20% battery and it’s about 150-200g heavier
@@TechGuyBeau Awesome, thanks for that info! Im most likely going with the thinkbook now knowing it will support 64gb. It didn’t understand why the tech said it maxed out at 32gb.
@@Jaymachine maxes out at 32gb from the factory. There are spec sheets out there that clearly state Lenovos offerings max out at 32GB, and doesn’t state that 32GB is the limit.
Besides, why do you need 64GB of ram anyway? Lol
Tech Guy Beau!
I really value your reviews but as a 73 year young gal who is doing her best to learn about these new advanced machines, especially as it applies to deep learning and AI, it isn't easy to keep up with you! But I must confess, I think all TH-camrs talk too fast and wonder if you think we oldie goldies can keep up with you? I have to go into the TH-cam settings and slow the rate to half of normal speed. Otherwise, everything goes in one ear and out the other!.
The only problem is the change in the rate makes you sound like you're either drunk or severely handicapped but it enables me to keep up when not laughing. It's pretty hysterical listening to you, and it takes twice the time to get through a review or podcast. This gives me time to jot down info I want to remember without replaying something 8 or 10 times to understand what you are saying. Have you ever listened to yourself at half the normal speed? The music for testing the speakers is equally comical. Listening to the sound of your typing on the keys at half the normal speed is pretty funny, too. I am now listening to the review for "my new favorite laptop the Lenovo ThinkBook 16P."
I've laughed all the way through it but managed to understand the terms and numbers you are throwing out during the review. Go back and listen to it at half the speed and you'll understand what I'm saying. Anyway, wish I knew why TH-camrs are in such a big hurry . Nice if you could slow down to reach kids from the '50s who are struggling to keep up with this new technology! Thanks and keep up the great Tubing! 😂😉
The reason why most TH-cam people talk fast is that TH-cam will punish you if your videos are longer. There’s an algorithm that we all are too, and if you want people to see your videos and get your assistance, then you must make sure your videos are as concise as possible.
As it stands my videos are already technically too long, for the algorithm to promote them at least. You’ll notice that most videos these days are 8 to 12 minutes. Mine being 22 minutes is actually extremely long
Unfortunately that’s just the way that the system works, I appreciate you taking the time to learn technology though. A lot of people just abandoned learning once they get out of high school. But the most important thing we can do is always learn
Do you think speakers would be different on 14inch model? I don't want that big 16inch laptop would prefer smaller. Thanks.
The 14 inch variance of this won’t be as premium as the 16 inch it’s more of a traditional think book
I saw this more than a few months ago in the US. I just don't like that it has Intel.
is there a big difference between the slim 7 screen (1600p) vs the LoQ 1080p screen? Also, is 4050 gpu enough to run the 2k screen of the slim 7 screen?
Id say depends on what you run? Counter strike? Sure. Cyberpunk? Nope
Yo ive been looking at the loq and it looks cool, would you guy recommend it for music production?
Smaller battery than Legion Slim 7, yes? But two SODIMM slots! So tradeoff of battery vs RAM upgrades
Why not get the AMD Legion slim 7? It's probably got even better battery life, and you can choose the 3.2K screen option!
Isn't the Lenovo Legion Slim 7 RAM upgradable to 32Gb max though ? Plus you can add a secondary SSD in it as well
@@lancefordable Yeah you're right, I think I replied to the wrong comment LOL. Not sure if you can run a 48Gb SODIMM in the spare slot, haven't got the laptop to test. All manufacturers say no but I'd imagine you can get it to work
I'm a Linux user on a Thinkpad searching for an upgrade. Was wondering how is the battery life ? I'm looking at AMD 8000 series
battery life is only okay at best. 13th gen intel isnt that efficient, but it is powerful
AMD would most likely be more efficient, but it depends on the specific chip.
I don't know much about laptops should I go for mac m1 or this Lenovo? Thanks
They are highly different. If you care about battery life only get the Mac otherwise the Thinkbook is better. I’m using the new 2024 right now as my daily driver. Lovely laptop
So I ended up deciding on the latest 16p after watching this and other reviews. Got it a few days ago. Is anyone else having issues with the headphone port? It seems like a driver issue but everything is updated including the BIOS. When plugging in a pair of headphones, only the right ear is working. In test mode, you can see it trying the left but nothing. When I plug in a headset with a microphone, it has the same issues with only the right ear working but it also does NOT detect the microphone. Just trying to get a gut check before I go and contact lenovo hardware folks. @Tech Guy Beau
Do you have it disabled in windows privacy settings?
@@TechGuyBeau The built-in mic seems to work just fine as do the built-in speakers. This seems to be limited to the headphone port. I did go and look at the privacy settings and everything seems allowed. I'm pretty sure the hardware would still detect the microphone and the privacy settings would just prevent certain apps (depending on what is allowed or blocked) from accessing it.
Are those keyboard have the same feeling or key travel as Thinkpad T16/E16?
No this keyboard is MUCH better than the e16
@@TechGuyBeau Got to check it out then. Thanks.
T14 gen 4 amd review when?
It arrives Monday :)
Did you experience any micro stuttering while gaming or just using the laptop?
No
Thank you as i am coming across many reviews on reddit and youtube with legion slim 7i laptop having micro stuttering problem.
@@singhakumar48probably bad nvidia drivers. Either than or just too much junk running in the background
Nvidia drivers have been a major issue since the summer, since they have shifted hard to AI instead of gaming.
I’m not having issues on my amd model, but I still don’t suspect Intel.
You may want to roll back your nvidis drivers. People on my discord have also been having general nvidia issues for a couple months and have solved using older drivers
I guess AMD or even Intel are the stable GPUs these days 😅
Thank you very much for the information. 😊
The most important thing about the 'cheaper' screen is that its sadly only 60 Hz, while the 430 nit version has 165 Hz
Yeah the 3.2 k screen is the way to go for sure. And it’s only about $20 to upgrade
@@TechGuyBeau agreed. Btw thanks for the review. I have been one of the few who asked you months ago about this laptop; back then it was (more) expensive & not really customizable.
What i find really strange is that somehow on the whole internet there are like less than 5 reviews of this thing, eventhough its been out for a couple months. And those reviews are either in chinese or in russian 😂
Even written reviews not on youtube dont really exist, eventhough i find this laptop so good. Definitely underrated, imo.
Edit: maybe it would be better to have "gen 4" in the title, as there are other generations of this laptop? When i type in youtube "thinkbook 16p gen 4 review" your video doesnt show up
Is it really only 60Hz? I did notice that it wasn’t the same “cheap” screen that comes with the Legion 7 slim. That one is like 500 nits and 240Hz (actually impressive specs), whereas this one is listed as 400 nits and the refresh rate is not shown. 60Hz would be sad indeed, and you’d want to upgrade that for sure.
@@shanksworthy3.2k is not 60hz
@@beau-urns no I’m not talking about the upgraded 3.2k monitor. That’s the upgraded one. I’m referring to the default “cheap” option, that the OP mentioned.
I never understood the whole "Thinkbook" line. Are these just Thinkpads without the red nipple and black color?
No, this is more along the lines of a Lenovo legion. They are actually in many ways more premium than thinkpads now
Where do I get the horse wallpaper you have??
It came with the device. It’s a Thinkbook wallpaper. Might be able to find online
What kind of RAM upgrade did you do?
I used Corsair vengeance 5600mhz (runs at 5200mhz)
Is the keyboard in this laptop better than keyboard in thinkpad?
yes, for sure
How did you get yours without the Magic Bay?
Those seem to have vanished off the Lenovo website. So maybe modern units don’t have it
I figured it out. The Magic Bay is automatically added on as an upgrade if you add enough upgrades to get above a certain price point. If I had ordered mine exactly as you ordered yours then the Magic Bay would not have been added. However, since I ordered mine with all of the upgrades Lenovo automatically added the Magic Bay. Many thanks to you for making this video. It was exactly what I needed to make my final decision. @@TechGuyBeau
@@cpwlaw will they add it to Thinkpad p16 gen 2? i have ordered it with high end upgrades.
@@TheDataArchitectmagic bay is exclusive to the Thinkbook 16p G4 line…
Is AMD CPU like 7840HS an option?
Not yet. Maybe one day
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Is it thicker than the slim 7?
A tiny bit yes. Appx 1mm thicker at the back. But pretty close.
16p OR 7i slim...What would be wiser to buy?
16p (13700H/rtx4060/ram32G/ssd 512g/3.2k display / warranty 1year)
7i slim (13900H/rtx4070/ram32G/ssd 1T/3.2k display / warranty 3year)
16p price = $1232
7i slim = $1722
There is this price difference in the country where I live.
And can you tell me which one is quieter when you run the game?
If it were me I’d Get the Thinkbook. It’s MUCH cheaper and will perform the same (or better due to better cooling). It also had better speakers, better keyboard and trackpad.
The raw performance of the 13900h on the legion vs 13700h would be the same since the Thinkbook has better cooling. The gpu are about 5-10% different. Not worth such a huge price bump
As you advised, I purchased and am using 16p.
As mentioned in the review, the keyboard, speaker and display are all great.
Since it does not have a gaming gear-like design, it is also suitable for office use.
It was a great choice and thank you for the good advice.@@TechGuyBeau
Hi @@user-ip2mz9jp7k, did you purchase it from Lenovo?
Ok
what if I down to 1600p from 3.2k while only on gaming? is it ok to buy 3.2k with 4060?
It will look quite bad. I’m using the 2024 model currently with 3.2 k (review coming soon), and I just use more dlss
jesus christ give me an option for a touch OLED screen. Id happily pay extra.
Would be perfect with AMD
Any backlight bleeding issues?
Not on the 3.2k screen. It’s a really nice screen
This screen has %100 sRgb?
Is the touchpad haptic?
No only the z13/16 has that feature
What about the cooling tho? I don't think that cooling in a business laptop is the same, because when a manufacturer builds the gaming laptop it surely will focus it on gaming, not for productivity.
The cooling on this is actually better than the legions in the same class
@@TechGuyBeauhello friend, why?
@@eduardof-d3849it just had better cooling. Thicker larger fans. Thicker chassis
Hey guys. Has someone used this laptop for programming? Is it good?
Very
You seemed to love the keyboard. But, have you tried thinkpads before? I am wondering if this keyboard is even better than thinkpad’s….
I have owned dozens of thinkpads and reviewed many on my channel.
This is better than modern thinkpad keyboards yes
@@TechGuyBeau Is this Thinkbook keyboard the same as on other Thinkbooks? Or is this keyboard unique to this specific Thinkbook model? The reason I ask is that this 16p Thinkbook is a bit out of my price range, but I know there are less expensive Thinkbooks.
@@squatch545 it’s much different than other Thinkbooks.
Think of a hybrid between a legion and a thinkpad keyboard. It’s probably the best keyboard I’ve ever used on a laptop.
I get the feeling this laptop is similar to a lenovo legion
It’s extremely similar. It’s basically a Lenovo legion 7 pro 2022 or a slightly thicker 2023 legion 7 slim.
Oh look, an off-centre touchpad. Why? Just why. Who on the design team looks at that and approves it? Is there some advantage to having it off-centre like that? It drives me crazy when I see a laptop with an off-centre touchpad.
Because the track had aligned with the keyboard. If the trackpad was in the middle of the chassis on the laptop that has a numb pad, it would be technically very off-center from typing and awkward to use