Winchester Ranger T Series: .40 Smith and Wesson
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Paul tests Winchester Ranger T ammo.
Shirts and patches from Tristar Trading Co:
Other platforms:
Rumble: rumble.com/c/P...
Odysee: odysee.com/@pa...
Paul's Patreon: www.patreon.co...
This video was edited and uploaded by:
Brad Nelson - minutemantheory.com
![[Full Episode] The Restaurant War Thailand ศึกพ่อค้าซ่าแม่ค้าแซ่บ Episode 2 | 29 ก.ย. 67](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/r3lfLNH6Ke4/mqdefault.jpg)
The reason I watch these videos is simple... Straightforward no bull crap, no Tacticool just straight simple and accurate information.. Keep On Keepin On... thank you sir.
The term "tactical" is to this decade what "ninja" was to the 80s and 90s.
I can't take Paul seriously. He doesn't strut around with a massive beard, 5/11 pants and a T-shirt 3 sizes too small. He doesn't swear every other word and sing the praises of 9mm Tupperware guns as the ONLY choice in every situation, so he's obviously not an "operator". So, Nah, I'll move onto taking more pictures of myself in Oakleys putting on my my best bad ass face.
@@khaccanhle1930 Lol!
Khắc cảnh lê ... I was fortunate enough to be trained as what some would call a "swat officer " and served in that capacity for 14 years. In that time we were the test bed for weapons and equipment. Much of the equipment we tested proved to be effective. What stemmed from that IMHO was an over reliance on kit and what we called it in 2005 "CDI", chicks did it. And I believe it led to the tacticool opinions we have seen since.
@@khaccanhle1930 😂😂🤣😅
I am heartbroken Paul didn't remind me what the meat target is.
It's a pork chop pectoral, pork ribs, oranges for lung tissue, more pork ribs, plus four layers of tshirt front and back, and behind that the high tech fleece bullet stop. And the pig's ears? You be the judge.
Wait...what about the leather jacket "skin"
@@tweezak that's the hunting target. Duh. Haha
But was it the *new and improved* high-tech fleece bullet stop? We shall never know...
@@BlahDBlahDBlah I'll be the judge of that but not at home because I'm not what you call a professional.
And theMargarine to simulate the body fat
Grocery clerk: "Very nice ribs and chops you are getting there, having a barbecue this evening?"
Paul: "No, no I am not"
LMFAOOO ...I really cracked up reading this.
Some store employees have got to be asking questions by now
"This guy eats more pork ribs and soda than anyone I've ever seen but he never gains weight. Maybe it's the oranges...or he works out."
lmao at the thought of someone start a hardcore orange and pork regimen thinking its what makes paul swoll
Neil VanAlstine 😆
Paul, thank you for continuing to produce .40 S&W videos; it is very much appreciated.
What!?... No meat target introduction? That’s like skipping the Sacrament Prayer and just passing out the bread and water, lol. Best channel on TH-cam.
Thank God! I could recite it in my sleep.
Listening to him explain the meat target is my favorite part - every single time.
BillyZaneism Well I’m not what you call a professional so I won’t try it at home.
People are quick to accept ANYTHING positive said about 9MM as pure gospel, but refute any praise about .40 S&W. There is a LOT of misinformation going around on forums, and every time someone tries to make the claim that there's no difference between the two...it's just a claim with no had evidence. For some reason people want to perceive 9MM to be better performing than it actually is, by doing so they immediately minimize .40 S&W or any other caliber that's not 9MM by deeming it 'useless'. Just because 9MM is more practical and easier to shoot that does NOT mean that it's the most effective. Calibers like .40 S&W, .357 SIG or even .45 ACP kind of fall into this subcategory that's an upgrade from 9MM. Although it seems like .40/.357 SIG are slightly better options than .45 ACP due to power and capacity. Anybody that honestly believes power isn't a plausible aspect in modern ballistics is a moron, sadly there are a lot of morons these days. The problem with .45 ACP is that it's a somewhat outdated caliber that's only loaded at half the pressure of .40 or 9MM, Glock tried to address this problem with the widely panned .45 GAP. Personally I'd rather get good performance AND good capacity, which is why I tend to go with .40 S&W. It's an extremely underappreciated duty/carry round!
I know what you mean about 45 acp, and i wouldnt choose it for concealed carry outside in the streets, but for home defense?? Well i think its the best for home defense because it has the least penetration of all while giving the most expansion and great tissue damage. What you think?
Beautiful explanation. Couldn’t agree more.
Rain, snow, tornadoes, darkness... nothing stops Paul Harrell on range day! Semper Fi!
Jarhead Greasemonkey so true
Paul usually summons weather changes on command just to make his videos more entertaining. If he didn't want the snow, it wouldn't be there!
Gun Sam _Revolver Aficionado_
Gun Sam...I agree! 😂
It's a good practice to have. The experience in different weather conditions can be very valuable for when things go awry.
Post office of guns ?
It has been my experience from testing .40 S&W ammo for police use that just about anything in a hollow point from a major manufacturer works pretty darned well. When you chose between 155, 165, and 180 grain loads, you are pretty much choosing based on your preference for the level of the recoil and barrier penetration characteristics, and I don't think I've ever tested a really "bad" .40 round from a major manufacturer. This is not totally surprising because the .40 was designed with police work in mind. I still have a SIG P229 and a Smith and Wesson M&P, and in the unlikely event I ever found myself back in a patrol car, I'd be wearing one of those two pistols over any other caliber I could choose, except that I might drop the old .357 SIG barrel in the P229 and be just as happy. One reason I still like the .40 is that pretty much anything you stuff in it works pretty well.
When my small department tested the heavy for caliber 9mm 147 grain Ranger T in tests conducted with several other agencies, we didn't find it to be awful, and it did pretty well on the barrier penetration tests, even though expansion seemed muted once it hit the gel. It seemed pretty comparable to a Speer Gold Dot in the same weight, again not surprising since they are direct competitors, much like Pepsi and Coke. In the end, at that time, we didn't see enough advantage to a caliber change, decided to keep our .40's, and loaded them with Ranger loads. I understand that a few years later they did switch to 9mm pistols and settled on the 124 grain +P HST load because they got a great deal on it.
If I ran a 🚔 or were a procurement, contract officer, I'd opt for a HST 124gr +P 9mm or the Hornady Critical Duty 124gr +P 9mm. Many gun owners & armed professionals are not aware that gun makers, S&W Ruger Glock etc use 124gr to R&D 9mm(9x19mm).
@@DavidLLambertmobile I know there are arguments to be made for the heavier bullets in 9mm, but my sources at Federal/Speer tell me that the performance of the 124 +P is essentially identical to their 147 grain offerings, and that they offer both to accommodate the preferences of departmental purchasers, as they do with the standard pressure load for departments that won't use +P.
They have also told me that the 124 +P round needs at least a 4 inch barrel to show a material advantage over their same weight standard pressure load. So I tend to agree with you and have standardized on the 124 grain +P HST. In my subcompact pistols it really doesn't recoil more than standard pressure, and is only 30 fps faster in something like a Shield. So I run it in all my 9mm pistols and get decent accuracy and sights that shoot to point of aim/impact. But if for some reason I cannot get it, I'll happily use the 124 standard pressure round, especially in my shorter barreled pistols. Cheers!
I carry a 40 because. I don't give a rip what you carry or don't carry.
Me too. Every now and then I'll tote around my 9mm or my .45 too though. I like my .40. I don't know why in the last couple years, people have been hating on it.
I carry a lot of different stuff 357 Sig to 380 depends on the day and how deep I need to conceal it
@@bryanbaker5942 People are idiots. You can carry around a .22 if you want. It's still plenty lethal. I originally bought a 40 as my first handgun because I liked the idea of having something in between a 9 and a 45. The best of both worlds. Sure it's a bit snappy but it's still a good round.
@@bryanbaker5942 We want the 10 MM back. The 40 killed the 10 MM.
@@chuckmiller5763 I have a 10mm too. A SW 1076. Problem is the ammo is expensive so I don't shittit as much. I have found boxes for just over $17 tho.
Once again we see the .40 outperform the 9mm. 9mm keyboard commandos crying all over the world. But seriously, I only shoot .40 and 9mm. I enjoy them equally,just like to watch videos that make 9mm fanboys cry.
people that have no clue on ballistic, they always say 9mm preformed almost the same as 40sw and power, but the fact is 40sw and 45acp is closer in performances then 40sw to 9mm, 40 to 9 is a bigger gap
*HKP:* I love it when 9mm fanboys cry because my round is biggerer and betterer.
*Paul:* my concealed carry is 22 acp.
.22 acp?
LOL. Perhaps it is... Paul doesn't even need the full .25 to be effective.
hkp 30ls 40 & 9mm are all I pretty much carry and shoot anymore. I gave up 45 years ago because anything the 45 can do the 40 can do or do better. And 45 +P pretty much mimics the 40 with a bit more recoil and less capacity typically. Although I do like seeing the tactitards 9mm ninjas get bent out of shape when their "9mm can do everything just as well" comes up short.
Thank Paul for another great video. I am still a big fan of the .40 S&W as a defensive cartridge. I keep a Glock 22 by the bed at night loaded with 165gr Gold Dots.
Jesus.... Im gonna be finding and watching Paul's videos for years and years to come... God Bless You, Paul.... The world is lessened without you.
Great. The .40 S&W seems to perform adequately regardless of the brand. The Ranger T leaves prettier projectiles. Is it worth the cost? "You be the judge."
40 definitely seems to have the right stuff associated with it. It has far more than enough performance to get the job done without living on the edge like 380acp and to a smaller degree 9mm.
+Brian Olsen I feel that is mostly in part because .40 S&W is typically loaded to about 80% maximum level. Most factory .40 S&W loads seem to have the same velocity range depending on bullet weight, and a few I've taken apart to see whats inside would seem to indicate this. Not to mention, it's the only way they can get a 180gr projectile moving at around 1,000 to 1,100 fps from a 4 inch barrel or so. It's why you typically dont see a +P .40 S&W load out there. That and I suppose that's what 10mm is for if you want to go that route.
I personally dont view .380 ACP as a "living on the edge" kind of caliber in terms of performance. I find most factory .380 ACP to be loaded to similar levels as well. The biggest disparity in .380 ACP for a long time was hollow point ammunition, but now there are plenty of reliable and reputable brand of JHP ammo that deliver consistent performance on the .380 ACP.
But typically any caliber that is loaded to maximum or near maximum from the factory comes out this way. .45 ACP is a prime example as it's been loaded nearly the exact same now for 100 years.
Right, with 9mm you have to be more picky with personal defense loads, and then there is the common issue of practice loads being noticeably lighter. While .40 S&W is not entirely free of such issues, if you buy commonly available factory ammunition, then you probably won't have any issues--with the common stuff, virtually all personal defense loads are effective enough, and virtually all practice loads are stout enough for effective training. It's like .45 ACP in this way--not as much to concern oneself about.
That is the beauty of the .40 caliber. Even shit ammo is better than 9mm
The T series used to be part of Winchester’s law enforcement ammo line. Not sure if it still is or not. The T is rumored to stand for Talon as in Black Talon. Every round I’ve ever seen recovered expanded like crazy. It is or was available with a bonded projectile to limit jacket separation as well. I use the +P in 45 acp in my kimber ultra carry.
Great video as always Paul! Love me some .40 S&W!
Thanks was a interesting test. I am a 40 fan, since S&W 40 was introduced, still have my S&W 4006 and 411 they, lets say glued to my side. Keep up the good work
I was watching another video when I saw this was up.
I'm a simple man. I see Paul Harrell, I click Paul Harrell.
4:43
Dassa lotta da-midge!
Never not watch a paul harrell video
I love the .40 S&W, can't be beat in terms of power and package size!
But but but... the internet says that the FBI says that 9mm and .40S&W are exactly the same!?
Hateful Hermit no one has ever said that
J. Rob. Apparently you have never read gun website comment sections or listened to internet commandos yell at you about their opinions... There are even people that claim 9mm is equal to 357 magnum...
Yeah apparently greater mass at similar velocity DOES NOT in fact impart more energy onto the desired target. I know.... defies the laws of physics... Bla Bla... but if the FBI and internet say so then Newton be damned!
It's not that they are the same. Each one has it's strengths and weaknesses. The 9mm is just better over all when it comes to handling, recoil, accuracy and follow up shots. Not to mention cost of ammo. 40 is great. Shoot what you want. I prefer 9mm
The SAAMI specifications are the same, that's all.
This has been my carry round for 2 years in my g23 gen 3. I pay $52 for 50 rds at my local shop but that box last me 18 months so I don't care. These are Devastating in 230g 45 also.
I agree with the Ranger T T series 230gr +P JHP, .45acp. For the .40S&W, I use Hornady Critical Duty or the newer Federal HST punch 165gr.
I already knew the Ranger T .40 was awesome in both 165 and 180 grain. My big takeaway here was that I need to find some of the white box hollow points. What an awesome bargain as I know I've seen as low as $20 for a box of 50.
Hey Paul, I am interested in seeing a video by you on the topic of fitness.
creatine user - and proper mustache maintenance.
creatine user- lift weights. Eat. Sleep. Repeat.
Paul's best advice on fitness is presented in his intro at 00:08. Every day do 200 classic FBI combat draws, and you are fine. My butt got so big from it, people thought I was a track cycling champion. Paul's execution in the intro is a bit sloppy, the real deal you find here:
th-cam.com/video/1ftXWvkPj1k/w-d-xo.html
I thought he was just being silly when he had said "shoot like your grandfather", I had no clue that used to be a real government recommended shooting stance.
I'm all for learning from those who came before us, but who the fuck said that stance was a good idea?
+DanGarbageCan. Those were pioneering times, many ideas had been picked up, got into training, and then got forgotten within a few years or a decade. As far as I can remember, the primary idea behind this one was to reduce your size as a target. When you fell over while quickly stepping to the side also introduced the element of genuine surprise.
Paul, THANK YOU so much! As a 40 Glock 23 gal I have been using Sig Elite. I'm going to make the switch to Winchester. This is why A lot of us support you on Patreon!!!
I'd opt for the Hornady Critical Duty 175gr or the new line Federal HST 165gr Punch. 🥊.
Great video Paul! I have always been a fan of the 40.S&W people always tell me how the 9mm is just as powerful, not in my own experience testing the 2 40 is far more powerful Imho
9mm is the Honda Civic of handgun calibers.
@@playerzero2236 ...and 40 is the Cadillac...but 45 is the Kenworth.
Paul lives up to the Post Office moto, rains, sleet, snow.... Unlike the actual Post Office.
Hello Paul - love your videos - how about a meat target comparing .223 FMJ to .223 JSP
Just filmed a video w/various types of .223 JSP's It should be on line in a couple of weeks.
Thanks Paul I'm sure that's going to be very interesting.
you should also do varmint rounds like hornady v max
Awesome!
This goes to show how much the specific load in each cartridge type ("caliber") matters--not the brand, series, or even the basic projectile design, but each specific load. I select loads for each cartridge type based on multiple test results, at least (your meat targets being one of them). That said, there are other factors when choosing between two equally effective loads. For one thing, I like how the Winchester Ranger-T, Bonded, and PDX1 series all have completely sealed cartridges (both at the primers and bullets) and are extremely resistant to bullet setback--this makes the ammo very resilient to environmental conditions outside of a sealed, dehumidified ammo can. This wouldn't make me choose the underperforming 147-grain 9mm Ranger-T, but it is one reason I've chosen this series for .40 S&W (either bullet weight, 165 or 180 grains) over others that are just about as effective and even slightly more consistent (e.g. Federal HST) or less expensive (e.g. Winchester White Box JHP). It gives me some peace of mind regarding reliability under potentially adverse conditions. Additionally, I tend to avoid the Speer Gold Dot series because they are very prone to bullet setback. I like their products and use quite a bit of Speer training ammo, but for defensive use my personal preference--even though it's probably unnecessary--is for more physically robust ammo that will work right even if one submerges it in water or oil, and won't allow the bullet to be pushed into the case, which can raise pressure to dangerous levels.
WWB advertised velocity: 1010fps. Actual velocity: 1011fps. Not too bad.
I carry .40 S&W and will pick some of these soon to test against the Federal HST that I currently carry. Great video as always, Paul. Thanks!
I lean towards the .357sig in 2020 but the traditional .40 is fine. 1000s of 🇺🇸 cops, federal agents used .40 guns for years.
Please do a test with the .45 ranger t series. Has a 1" expansion.
RIP Paul. We you’ll be missed.
I have carried 165 gr Ranger-T's for years...great round. I've been impressed with my backyard testing. Thanks Paul!
That's been my carry ammo as well in my Glock 23 for the last twelve years.
I CCWed a Beretta 96D surplus .40 in the late 1990s. I varied from 135gr to 165gr factory JHPs. Mainly Golden Saber & Corbon JHP.
You two must be cops, because supposedly cops are the only ones that can get the Ranger T 165
@@berettaxd7566 I am not, that's not true.
Makes 2 of us. Same for the 165gr Speer Gold Dot. The 165gr loads in .40 are heard to beat, except for maybe the Hydra-Shok which is anemic at best.
I enjoy my 40s, great info!!!
I use these rounds in my EDC :-)
Ranger T was used by lots of PDs a few years back before the FBI NEW 9mm is good as 40 cal report. It;s a great time to buy a USED dept trade in Beretta 40 and Ranger T now.
great video as always but where's "You'd be the judge" ;)
Tomasz Zajac I’d say this video was ‘Not bad at all.’ 😆
Luckygunner has probably the best overall comparison of various types of ammo, and if I remember correctly, and the T-series seems to do a little better in 147gr, than lighter weights. Their .45 T-series is incredible. I like your tests, also. www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/#9mm
Effective, yes. But that much more effective to justify $31 a box vs $16 for the white box ammo? You be the judge.
Brian Anderson I don't know where you buy your ammo because I have no problem finding .40 ammo for no more than two dollars a box more than 9mm. Sometimes its the exact same price.
Only if one is so poor that the extra less than $20 can't be spent.....to trust ones life to? My life is worth whatever the cost of the best ammo is that I can carry in my gun. White box ball for training & plinking....Win T-Series to carry, after running a whole mag of it thru the pistol to verify cycling & point of impact.
.40 and 9 are Damn near the same price!
I qualify for "armed officer" 🚔🇺🇸🚨👮🏼♂️💲 rates due to my profession so I stock up on LE type handgun calibers when I can. 2020 is tight. ☣🏥🦇. Ammunition sources for all will be a mess until 2021 or so. The NSSF knows it!
Ranger T Series Ammo is hard to find in most Calibers if your a Civilian & not a LEO Winchester has limited the sale of this Ranger T Ammo being sold to LEO Only Which is why I shy away from any Winchester products the last fe years etc.
I have a bunch of the 45 ACP T series and see no reason to use anything else. Never used the 9mm, so glad that's the case, but the 40 obviously performs and I use nothing but Winchester T in my S&W 45.
When I was a police officer our department used Winchester Rangers. I never had to shoot anyone (thank God), but on the range those things had some serious blast, at least in 45acp anyway. Most of the guys in our department carried a Glock 22 40SW, at the closest distance at the range (about 7 feet) they would just punch a hole in the target. But when I fired a round out of the Glock 21 it would blow the paper off the wood frame half the time.... it was like I had set off a howitzer! : )
I swear I should have tied a roll of fleece blankets together when I was in asscrackastan. That seems to stop bullets better than a vest. Lighter weight too. Then when it got cold, just unroll for sleepin'. Love the meat target
I believe I will be purchasing some of those Ranger T's for my Walther PPS EDC. They strike me as having some of the best performance I have seen yet. Thank you Paul very very informative.
While the 180gr. bullet sounds good, it wreaks havoc on my recovery with my sub compact Glock 27 and Taurus PT740 (both with 3.2" barrel). I prefer the Hornady Critical Defense in 165gr. I would probably use it if I used a large frame .40, but my home defense pistol is still the .45 govn. model. Nice video.
So in conclusion the 40 is superior to the 9 :-)
Will you please link the presentation on the Ranger T 147 g 9 x 19 you referenced in the intro ? I am interested but cant find it in your video library.
Marc Adams was wondering the same
It probably got uploaded out of order. He's usually a few videos ahead in production.
Pretty sure the video was done. It was something about 9mm and not just called Winchester Ranger 9mm. Something comparing 9mm though.
Yes I'm confused because the Ranger LE 147gr 9mm has proven to be a very good round in multiple tests. I'd like to see what he's referring to by poor performance..?
Cajun Swamp Fox I would have remembered that
.40 is definitely a personal favorite. Not sure why it gets so much hate?
Just curious, do you wait for the crappiest weather to do videos
Mountme Python he has mentioned in previous videos that he purposely picks bad weather so he knows the range will be fairly empty
Jayden Dyck guess I missed that video
Empty range in bad weather, I used to do that when I’d take my .338 Lapua with a big-assed break or my 6.5” SBR AR also with a nasty break. Those are really annoying guns to be around when some a-hole is wasting ammo, (me).
John-Paul Silke so you're that a-hole when I'm there with my muzzleloader taking my time chillin, lol
Mountme Python : That would be me as well... sorry ! NOT. jk
I love the 40 S&W. I keep 1,000 plus rounds of T Series and SXT.
what are the chances of a .357 sig ranger t-series test? there are agencies and dept's out there thatare issued this ammo...
Thanks for the presentation Paul! .40 is a very underrated caliber for civilian use, but Law Enforcement sees how effective it really can be. I look forward to further videos!
In 2020 more state & local PDs went to 9x19mm BUT many cops, troopers had no problems with 165/155 gr .40 guns. The CBP, US Border Patrol issued Beretta 96Ds & P229s for years.
Do you have a link for the 9mm t series video? I apparently missed that one.
th-cam.com/video/PyIrt7-kzjY/w-d-xo.html
Would like to see comparisions of popular 9mm JHP ammo: Speer Gold Dot vs Hornady vs. Remington Green Box
Must say that the many reviews Paul does is very detailed and to real life as not just gel but uses other rounds to compare to what he is testing but!!! Who else will be out in what seems to be always rain and snow testing!. My hat is off to this guy. unlike others promoting products he leaves the proof to the many.
Awesome work Paul!
yay 30.
Awesome pork Paul!
Mr. Harrell,
For a demonstration idea, for some who live in bear country, could you kindly put something together with loads that are in the minimum rage of effectiveness to protect ones self from a possible bear encounter that are primarily used as self defence EDC loads. Just an Idea, but maybe a much more heaver meat target to simulate a large bear. Also different calibers and maybe some personal knowledge.
This question came up and lead into some debate with some range buddies and opinions where everywhere. some where flat out ridiculous ,It would be nice to hear from you on this topic.
Thank you sir.
Joe
For brown bear defense in Alaska, I've heard that the minimums are 44 Mag revolver, rifle in 30-06 with 180 grain ammo, or 12 gauge with slugs.
Not exactly what you're looking for, but he does a double size meat target in the 10 mm vs .45 video
ushook For woods carry you want something with decent power and GOOD penetration. I know Double Tap makes a 'outdoorsman' type load in most calibers, including a 200gr .40 S&W FMJ and Hard cast load capable of doing 1,000 FPS. That's better than +P .45 ACP! Also Buffalo Bore makes a similar loading in most popular handgun calibers. Like I said though you really want penetration over expansion, buy a few of those loads and try them out on a few 2-liters. You always wanna try it out BEFORE you use it!
I really prefer 165gr in .40 s&w and 124-125gr 9mm
I think the theory is velocity will create a larger temporary cavity due to hydro-static shock the trade off is a LOT of JHP types have a tight window as far as velocity so too fast equals no or poor expansion.
AKlover It also seems like the theory of hydrostatic shock significantly applying to a thousand foot per second handgun round has been debunked? Isn't that correct?
AKlover you mean too slow equals poor expansion
155-165gr has been the standard defensive choice for a while now. The 180 is more available and cheaper as a result. The 180 was the holdover 10mm size but when the case shrunk for the .40 it caused some issues with SAAMI pressures.
It works damn well for Nashville PD.
I just bought a .40, so thanks for giving me some food for thought.
With the 9mm Ranger T if I were going to put them into one of my magazines I would not go heavier than 124 grain.
I never saw the 9mm ranger t series vid. I looked but was not on you playlist ? Also in .40 as opposed to the guy who sent you 180 gr. 165 seems to be the ticket not 180, not your fault though, great vids. as always.
0:13 you embraced the meme. I'm so proud.
I'd love to see you test the Federal HST 180gr .40s&w! I'd gladly send you a box if I could
If you could get better close up's of those expanded hollow points that would be awesome!
Have you, or are you planning to test the Ranger T .45 acp ammo?
Paul thanks for doing all these tests so I don't have to do them myself. I have a H&K VP 9, a S&W M&P 40, and a S&W 1911 .45 ACP. Out of the 3 of them I like the M&P 40 the most (has an APEX trigger kit installed) and I can see from your videos that Winchester White Box 40 S&W JHP perform VERY well and that's great because I find them very accurate and they are only $20.97 at Walmart for 50 !! That said I shoot the VP 9 more because a 150 round box of Winchester White Box NATO is only $27.68 at Walmart and I find them very accurate. Could you please test some Winchester PDX1 124 grain 9 mm +P rounds? I'm curious to see how they perform because they are listed to have the same exact velocity as the 124 grain NATO rounds.
A like and a comment to help the channel.
The new mic is VERY noticeable. Great improvement.
Results: .40 S&W just seems to be pretty good in terms of damage on the meat target.
Proving once again: .40>>>>9mm.
Hey, Paul! The Winchester 180gr T Series is the Cartridge my Department used before I retired. I'm going to start caring it again. I stopped using it in my EDC, now that I'm a Civilian because, I'm a bit leery of Juries should I ever become involved in a Civilian Shooting, Heaven forbid! In hindsight, it's always best to use what you train with. Thanks for the good video.
I'm glad you tested the WWB 180 gr JHP. These have been showing good performance in online testing and are actually a good budget option if you had to have something from a brick and morter in a hurry. It wouldn't be my first choice but unlike most entry level JHP ammo it actually performs well. The WWB JHP in 9mm are far less impressive.
id actually like to see tests done on the meat target but instead with the +P 45 acp out of a full size 1911.
Looks like they all expended energy in the meat target.
With what I've researched on the T-Series, it was worth the couple of extra bucks
Hey, Paul. Will you teach me to shoot?
Long live the meat target and weatherproof vids like this.
Am I the first from the UK to comment? "You be the judge"
It's usually the inexpensive HP ammo that out performs. Nice to see the T-Series come out on top
Love the vids
As always, THX for the new vid, Paul. Definitely informative and entertaining. Quick question : Do you roll your own (as in cartridges)? If so, It'd be cool to see a video about your favourite handloads. THX.
First, thank you Paul for all of the time you invest in these videos. My personal choice for every day carry is a Springfield XD sub-compact in 40 S&W. I had initially selected Winchester PDX1 as my carry ammo until I found an abnormality in the crimp of the bullet during loading. I found 14 out of the box of 20 that were severely over crimped. I contacted Winchester and they resolved the issue, however they failed initial quality checks to keep it from leaving the factory that way. After receiving the coupon for a replacement box I first opened the box to check the crimp and those too were over crimped. Ultimately I chose the Sig Sauer Elite Performance V-Crown and saved more than 4 dollars per box of 20. Your videos covering that ammunition further vailidate my choice. Once again, thank you.
ATTENTION EVERYONE:
Please congratulate Paul on 200,000 Subscribers!
Congrats 🎊🎉🍾🎈Paul
Excellent again. Seeing with your own eyes is to me the gold standard. I am a fan of Hornady Critical Defense because the local Leo's use the Critical Duty. It is a legal reason, if I ever end up in court I'm using a civilian version of the Leo ammo. And it does preform very well. This is based on perceptions from my attorney of the local views of law enforcement and public. And yes he's a criminal defense attorney. That's what you will need. I think a current day comprehensive video on the aftermath of a shooting would be great Paul.
Thanks for the new video Paul.
Also I would like to issue a challenge to all your viewers, stop using the term "assault weapons ",use semi auto which is what they are. Your unintentionally using the gun grabbers terminology.
Is a mini 14 an assault weapon, it's essentially a scaled down M 14 so why not. Ask yourself ,after they take away AR 15's what's next?
paul massing: actually you can do tremendous damage with a lever action .44 and a pocket full of shells.
Ask Geronimo.
paul massing I've never seen anyone in Paul's comments say "assault weapons", so I guess we as a whole have won your challenge?
You will pry my Assault Weapons from my cold dead hands.
Or my warm, pudgy, sweaty hands if the arresting campus officer decides to use a taser.
I would love to never hear any amount of politics on this channel.
paul massing My "assault weapon" is an AK. My suggestion to you is don't worry so much about terminology. I remember folks schooling other people not to use the word ""silencer" and use the word "suppressor" instead ...but now it looks like the professionals actually use the term "silencer".
Here's another way of thinking about it - would you object if someone called a Glock 17 a police weapon? My brother-in-law has one, and he's a civilian, but it's also a pistol commonly carried by law enforcement. I guess my point is: what people call a certain firearm is not really going to make that big of a difference at the end of the day. Really.
Anyway, this is a gun channel, not a political channel, as you will find out the more videos you watch.
I love your no BS style of just putting it out there, Paul. You do some great testing on ammo. These are some of the most informative real world type testing of ammo videos out there.
comment
Thank you Paul
Looks like fantastic ammo for my Sig Sauer P229. As soon as I use up all this 180gr Gold Dot ammo I have I will give this a try. Great video as usual Paul.
what handgun did you use?
Neither rain, sleet or snow, OK, maybe the dark of night will stop Paul from testing ammo and firearms. Lol. As always, thanks for the real world info Paul.
Nope. Not even darkness. Paul had used his car headlights to provide illumination in one of his recent videos.
Harry Mallory I seen it too. Lol.
Great video.
The only issue I see is that for the 147gr you used a “magnum” meat target with a very thick leather coat, but didn’t do this for the 180gr.
This makes sense to me. 40 and the Ranger T product line were developed for the LE market in the same era as their flagship products. You would expect them to work as well as the companys could manage. I would be completely unsurprised if the comparable hydrashok didn't perform as much better than their 9mms for the same reasons.
Best on the internet
I have some CCI Blazer .40 cal that is 155 gr GD JHP that have a muzzle velocity of 1,200fps. Real wicked stuff for .40 has a stiff recoil as well. I still prefer my 10mm though. I have some Underwood 180gr JHP's that are 1350 at the muzzle. I love the 10mm and it took the fun out of shooting the .40.
Another excellent video, thanks!
I prefer the 135 gr to 165 gr JHPs for a factory .40S&W. The Hornady Critical Duty 175gr is a exception. ✅. Many 1990s 2000s era 🚔 used 165gr .40 loads.
What brand jacket is that?
It seems that unlike the 9mm and 38 Special, the terminal ballistics of the 40 S&W and 357 Sig just aren't fussy about what ammo you feed them.
I love the new intro! My only suggestion is to make Paul's classic line of "you be the judge" full-volume at the end. I think that's a fantastic cap to the intro, but having the audio almost muted by the music undercuts it quite a bit. :)
Cant Decide between the 180gr and 165gr for a 4inch barrel.
The 180 seemed a bit too heavy for shorter barrels...
"So, how'd we do?" t-shirt please. I need one ASAP...
+TheJurgisRud -- "Let's crunch the numbers..."
"So what's the takeaway?"