hey i'm a noob so idk. why doesn't peach do her b mushroom move? m2k does his down b a lot. and peach's is pretty much the same? is it just a style thing, or is it unstrategic?
Is there a Fry's nearby where you are? You should be able to find them pretty cheap there. Brawl + plays similarly to Melee, so yes it should be easier for the adjust. The biggest differences are no wavedashing, and auto L-cancel. But they altered much of the physics to be more like Melee. DI plays a much bigger role with more hit-stun, and your recoveries need to be much more precise. And of course, every character, even Bowser, now has combo potential.
Sadly, I don't have a SD card to hook up to my pc. T.T I've been playing Melee lately, getting some Holy Comboes in on some CPU's. None of my cousins wanna play me in Melee now. Why? I learned ATs. x.x So bored. Would you say playing Melee will make it easier for a Brawl+ adjust? Btw, Triple Sweetspotted knees ftw.
Sick Peach!!! x) When the people started to say Yeii yeei yeeei at the peach's chain grabs,,,I remember the japanese tournament of Street Fighter 3rd strike,,when Yun starts a combo =) Very very good peach (Y)
Well... I have a friend that'll side with you on that, but I'm more of a Marth and Kirby guy. Couple more things, they've removed much of the hit-lag on all moves, so there's no dramatic pause on the knee, Zelda's lightning kicks or marth's tippers. There's also no stale moves, and Fox handles much more like Melee Fox, though he still lacks priority and effective edgeguards.
@scottytheghoti chaingrabbing is actually hella hard because you have to predict/read instantly the direction of their DI and mango's DI is so fuckin smart, part of the reason he beasts at falco (an easily chain-grabbable character)
I like the footstool move, but yeah I agree it should be more balance and to make another smash would probably take that long to make considering Brawl taking about 8 years to come out.
You should, its totally worth it. Falcons not up to Melee Falcon standards with that sucky priority, but he can combo into KNEE, thats wat matters. I actually did a double knee one time, it was sick.
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I tend to watch Melee more than Brawl videos and I enjoy playing Brawl a lot when do play it. I understand competitive Brawl not being as competitive with how you play a person or characters in a battle. May'be in the next smash it will have some middle ground for everyone I hope, so that Ganon could probably beat everyone.
There will likely never be another, because the creators act like they didn't even want to make Brawl, so its questionable if they want another. They also stress not wanted to make another quoting "it's unecessary, considering the value of Brawl". I'd have to disagree though, but I say who cares, as it will probably be similar to Brawl if a remake is made anyway.
I see where you are coming from since some people from the Melee community make Brawl seem like something spawned from hell, but it that's not true its just not as competitive since some things are gone and changed which makes the game more casual. Brawl is still a great game just like Melee the difference being it appeals to the regular casual person who plays the game more imo. Everyone's entitled to their opinion.
About them chain grabs. Fox/Falco, and maybe C.Falcon, are the only characters heavy enough to be chained by up-throws. But if it were really as cheap and easy as some people say it is, then why is Fox/Falco still the God-tier character on the pro circuit? Choosing not to utilize the only weakness of the strongest opponent would be foolish. Knowing that they are god-tier even as they are, imagine how much more powerful they'd be if up-throws tossed them as high out of reach as they do to characters like Samus or Jiggs. Well, that's how high it may as well be if the pros fought against them in an "honorable" manner by not going for the grab combos.
FortWhenTeaThyme It's not even that unique either. Other chars get fthrow and dthrow chaingrabbed while the fast-fallers won't until percents there's no need for chaingrabbing. The timing on cgs on spacies is also tighter than those of other cgs, and % dependent. If there is something particularly bad about spacie cgs, it's that they may have less opportunity to DI to a ledge than other characters, and if the cg is dropped, a tech-chase likely starts.
+Dave Z There's a difference between fast fallers and heavy characters. You may have found out by now, but if anyone looks at this vid and doesn't know the difference, Samus is heavy, but Fox, Falco and Falcon fall faster. Thus, Samus needs to be launched harder or at higher percentages to be KO'd than the fast fallers would, but the fast fallers... Well, fall faster.
Every match of Melee, there are at least 3 times where my friends and I freak cause we did something awesome. Replace "something awesome" with "bitching about MK's nado" and you get Brawl.
@Atma01 you're all complaining too much and it's annoying. I like both games and the only reason people are better than melee is that it's been around longer.
this is why people should stfu when it comes to new players. America has this really nasty habit of thinking they are the best no matter what. before the competition judged him they should have let him play first to see what skills he had. just because you haven't seen the outside doesn't mean there isn't anyone outside
I'm American and these commentators are straight trash. I'm actually rooting for Armada this time. The dude's an underdog. And who doesn't love rootin' for the underdog?
"Don't try and shield grab Mang0. It's almost pointless." *Armada gets a shield grab and kills Mang0 from 46%*
Also, U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-Ay! ..Ay ..Ay!
I laughed so hard when they started chanting "USA!" and then he nearly gets destroyed
I played him yesterday, he chain-grabbed me almost every Marth vs Spacies match. He practices like he preforms, that's one of the keys to his success.
what do you call, for example, 0:34? never saw mango get shieldgrabbed by a peach so much
hey i'm a noob so idk. why doesn't peach do her b mushroom move? m2k does his down b a lot. and peach's is pretty much the same? is it just a style thing, or is it unstrategic?
Is there a Fry's nearby where you are? You should be able to find them pretty cheap there.
Brawl + plays similarly to Melee, so yes it should be easier for the adjust. The biggest differences are no wavedashing, and auto L-cancel. But they altered much of the physics to be more like Melee. DI plays a much bigger role with more hit-stun, and your recoveries need to be much more precise. And of course, every character, even Bowser, now has combo potential.
Im a Great smash player.............. These videos are going to make the smash community so much bigger. These matches are perfect....
i still get warm and fuzzy watching this set, melee forevahhhh
Sadly, I don't have a SD card to hook up to my pc. T.T
I've been playing Melee lately, getting some Holy Comboes in on some CPU's. None of my cousins wanna play me in Melee now. Why? I learned ATs. x.x So bored.
Would you say playing Melee will make it easier for a Brawl+ adjust?
Btw, Triple Sweetspotted knees ftw.
@YacubCubby13579ZR Did you really ask if they still have Melee tournaments?
Sick Peach!!! x)
When the people started to say Yeii yeei yeeei at the peach's chain grabs,,,I remember the japanese tournament of Street Fighter 3rd strike,,when Yun starts a combo
=) Very very good peach (Y)
This video is why I love doing chain grabs with Peach! Armada makes it look fun! =D
Well... I have a friend that'll side with you on that, but I'm more of a Marth and Kirby guy.
Couple more things, they've removed much of the hit-lag on all moves, so there's no dramatic pause on the knee, Zelda's lightning kicks or marth's tippers.
There's also no stale moves, and Fox handles much more like Melee Fox, though he still lacks priority and effective edgeguards.
i herd pc was purty ok. call him?
Still here. It isn't going anywhere. ;D
I've heard of him and also heard he beat Mango two sets at a recent tourney. He's great with Ganondorf from what I've seen so far.
That was so long ago though.
@pacostaco123 meta-game?
the first peach uptilt I've seen in a long ass time. long time.
Thanks I'm just putting out what I believe about both games.
Gotta love that Combo potential.
Now, if only they made codes to enlarge the Knee's hitbox and adjust CF's priority.
At around 2 mins in does Mang0 do perfect Shine OOS?
Thanks.
ayeee, ayeee, ayeee, ayeee, ayeee, ayeee, ayeee, ayeee, & ayeee.. I LOVE IT CHAINGRABS IN MELEE GET YOU HYPE
its the first time i heard phil and brandom cherring up for mango
:P
nice
rofl, love it at 2:25 when they start chanting on each grab
@scottytheghoti chaingrabbing is actually hella hard because you have to predict/read instantly the direction of their DI
and mango's DI is so fuckin smart, part of the reason he beasts at falco (an easily chain-grabbable character)
I like the footstool move, but yeah I agree it should be more balance and to make another smash would probably take that long to make considering Brawl taking about 8 years to come out.
Mango and Armada would probably be the best rivalry imo.
man i wish i lived on the west coast we (on the east coast) got no one
You should, its totally worth it.
Falcons not up to Melee Falcon standards with that sucky priority, but he can combo into KNEE, thats wat matters.
I actually did a double knee one time, it was sick.
Damn....Sniper Vegetables are no joke.
@Atma01 Acutally Super smash bros 64 does give that same rush.. but a certain someone perfected that game x.x
1:46 is the turning point of the whole match.
mango playin like he nervous
Imagine if the next Smash Bros had the gameplay of Melee and the roster size of Brawl...
Good execution by Armada.
This match pissed me off...
but I gotta admit it, Armada is a beast
And that is why you never use Fox/Falco to fight Armada.
BANG!
Mango in the lead the whole game. Armada clutches out last stock with chaingrab-- commence ignorant youtube comment.
Harrison Downs Huh? I was making a quip about how awesome Armada was with those chaingrabs. Never said Armada stomped him.
Armada, my new favorite smasher! :D
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I tend to watch Melee more than Brawl videos and I enjoy playing Brawl a lot when do play it. I understand competitive Brawl not being as competitive with how you play a person or characters in a battle. May'be in the next smash it will have some middle ground for everyone I hope, so that Ganon could probably beat everyone.
It was the biggest melee tournament ever and he had to earn enough money to fly home. Play to win.
i don't know which he's better with now but falco is more interesting to watch and use so...
Can be DI'd out of below 45%. I've seen my friend do it before.
If I'm wrong, then I just suck at Chain Grabbing then. x.x
This is falco's worst matchup, Armada is the best peach in the world. What does that tell you about Mango?
2:22 was great timing
There will likely never be another, because the creators act like they didn't even want to make Brawl, so its questionable if they want another. They also stress not wanted to make another quoting "it's unecessary, considering the value of Brawl".
I'd have to disagree though, but I say who cares, as it will probably be similar to Brawl if a remake is made anyway.
@Atma01 Those who can't play Melee play Brawl, that defines me perfectly...
jesus that was intense as shit
This is my favorite comment.
Don't try advertising Brawl+ to people already playing Melee.
Especially if you don't know what you're talking about.
I see where you are coming from since some people from the Melee community make Brawl seem like something spawned from hell, but it that's not true its just not as competitive since some things are gone and changed which makes the game more casual. Brawl is still a great game just like Melee the difference being it appeals to the regular casual person who plays the game more imo. Everyone's entitled to their opinion.
@pacostaco123 nintendogs is a pretty intense game if you ask me
0:22 "Up-tilt!?"
I wanna get Brawl+. Play a GOOD Falcon again.
About them chain grabs. Fox/Falco, and maybe C.Falcon, are the only characters heavy enough to be chained by up-throws. But if it were really as cheap and easy as some people say it is, then why is Fox/Falco still the God-tier character on the pro circuit? Choosing not to utilize the only weakness of the strongest opponent would be foolish.
Knowing that they are god-tier even as they are, imagine how much more powerful they'd be if up-throws tossed them as high out of reach as they do to characters like Samus or Jiggs. Well, that's how high it may as well be if the pros fought against them in an "honorable" manner by not going for the grab combos.
"Only weakness". Looooooooool.
FortWhenTeaThyme It's not even that unique either. Other chars get fthrow and dthrow chaingrabbed while the fast-fallers won't until percents there's no need for chaingrabbing. The timing on cgs on spacies is also tighter than those of other cgs, and % dependent. If there is something particularly bad about spacie cgs, it's that they may have less opportunity to DI to a ledge than other characters, and if the cg is dropped, a tech-chase likely starts.
+Dave Z There's a difference between fast fallers and heavy characters. You may have found out by now, but if anyone looks at this vid and doesn't know the difference, Samus is heavy, but Fox, Falco and Falcon fall faster. Thus, Samus needs to be launched harder or at higher percentages to be KO'd than the fast fallers would, but the fast fallers... Well, fall faster.
lol at the usa chant getting silenced by the chaingrab
USA, USA, USA.... ehhh! ehhh! ehhhh!
who the hell is the crowd going for lol
Armada is amzing
"ey! ey! ey!!"
awwww flutter hush
3:50 WEST COAST DI!!!!
Every match of Melee, there are at least 3 times where my friends and I freak cause we did something awesome. Replace "something awesome" with "bitching about MK's nado" and you get Brawl.
3:16 U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A-Ay-Ay-Ay-Ay-Ay!
You cant shield grab mango! Ten seconds later, mango gets shield grabbed
@AldwynMcCloud
hahaha true
No it can with proper DI, but I'm into Brawl + now, no cheap ass chaingrabbing there.
holy sh it! n1 Armada !
@scottytheghoti Peach can't chaingrab Falco infinitely, for one thing. Two, sometimes he messes up.
May have? lol
USA! USA! AYE! AYE! AYE!
Lol, it's like they couldn't get back to "U"
@Atma01 you're all complaining too much and it's annoying. I like both games and the only reason people are better than melee is that it's been around longer.
this is why people should stfu when it comes to new players. America has this really nasty habit of thinking they are the best no matter what. before the competition judged him they should have let him play first to see what skills he had. just because you haven't seen the outside doesn't mean there isn't anyone outside
or morreee lol like 40-50 characters
Armada lacs the tech's
But he still mad good
Armada chain grabbed like a bitch
@thepurpletuce Whatever
lol m2k CG'ing in friendlies
@pacostaco123 do NOT insult nintendogs comparing it to brawl!!!
At least they know where China is on a map
Yeah, priority kills when it sucks.
haha
@Yoububehahaha Fox is Peach's worst matchup. Mango is the best Fox in the world. What does that tell you about Armada? :p
wow armada getting off
melee is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than brawl I always knew it
just play PM.
dead
lmao
mango baned mute city xD sooo FD FTW
At all the Brawl + dudes... GTFO
This is serious business. This is Melee.
USA! USA! USA! to chaincrab to silence. LOL Armada is too much
Brawl's Meta Game? More like Meta Knight! Lol! ...
Sweden.
hahaha i Know that my english sucks
But he won anyway =D
I'm American and these commentators are straight trash. I'm actually rooting for Armada this time. The dude's an underdog. And who doesn't love rootin' for the underdog?
Dude, don't insult Nintendogs metagame like that!
brawl's meta-game does not exist. No one knows about it. Brawl has about as much meta-game as Nintendogs.
lulz, in Brawl Falco is the cheap ass chaingrabber.
that's why he's so good, he's always practicing the gay things.