So true what you said about loudness and A/B'ing. It seems so obvious but it's not talked about enough in the audio world. So many manufacturers seem to know that the average person doesn't really take this into account and even sometimes set the default/init state of their plugins to simply be a couple of dB louder. It should be illegal. Izotope seem to be the exception to that rule, and most of their plugins have auto-gain matching options.
Level matching is not for saturation... It's more for compression. The whole point of these plugins is to ADD harmonic content......... Turn down the output if you feel the need to...
I really like Jordan. He's a good guy & has helped me a lot over the last year with certain mixing situations from his channel as I'm learning. He's a metal/rock producer that started this company. Even though this has some usues on single tracks here & there, I haven't given it a second thought because of the price. And, I also have plenty of other distortion/saturation plugins. Like the Black Box, Black Box MS, Abbey Road by Waves.
I am a fan of Jordan, who runs Black Salt Audio. He's a fantastic engineer, teacher, and motivator. I am enrolled in his mixing course and I don't think it is necessarily expensive. It's a great value. I also actually really like these plugins. But that was all prefacing to what I'm about to say: It's kind of nuts how expensive this plug-in is. The pricing was a bad move. I think the whole 'perceived value' psychology went a bit overboard with this one. I hope he considers lowering the price. I want this thing, but I'm not paying that much for it. And I am definitely the type to buy a plug-in I really like. But the Escalator is not worth this price IMO.
As someone who has taken various courses from him, I feel like those leave a little to be desired too, and are a bit pricey, especially compared to other courses like the ones on creative live, don't get me wrong, I'm not a hater, but I think he's way off with his pricing in general, and he uses a lot of bs psychological marketing techniques like closing access to his courses making you feel like you're missing out so you end up pulling the trigger and buying the courses, which are not cheap at all, specially if you live outside of the north American or European territory.
I tried this trial on snare drums to help my snare stands better in a mix. In a mix my snare is kinda buried down even with the volume high. It's actually really good plugin. Just can't believe the price of it lol If im not mistaken it's a new plugin company can't believe they put so high price for a new company
The guy who owns the company is named Jordan Valeriote and he has a youtube channel with a pretty devoted following. He’s probably banking on them paying that price
@@DouglasComical Yeah, but I think he misunderstands his audience. I think his audience (myself included) is musicians and aspiring mixers on a budget that gravitate to free education on TH-cam and the web. The comments on his new plugin videos were very critical of the price as well.
@@weeschwee The company is still going and seems to be very successful. I think people who find their plugins too expensive (I wouldn't pay €70 for this either) underestimate that there are pros who actually use the plugins and like them. They also seem to be plugins for very specific purposes. If you want a versatile saturation plugin that can do anything, buy Saturn. But if you just want to beef up a vocal or bass in a few seconds and move on, I guess this is the kind of plugin you want.
I don't know if i'll sound stupid. But there is an output fader of sorts to reduce the volume once you drive the plugin. Not that i don't appreciate all the things that i've heard when the level dropped at bypass, but my brain kept itching and asking when will he drop the output and do A/B. Even Saturn make things loud.
Gain matching with plugins is crucial if you want to really know if your moves are actually making the mix better. It's so easy to be fooled by volume. Do you have to match volume exactly? Possibly not, but it better be damn close. Not gain-staging your plugins is the main reason why you can't get a loud mix because you've eaten up all your headroom in your system.
What's the name of that plugin you reviewed in the past that's a limiter? Maximiser, maximum, the one where the where claiming it doesn't distort and better than industry limiters?
@@DBCisco I can't stand Jorden. When he demoed this plugin on his channel I saw right through it and called him out for not gain compensating when showing the plugin. He did it because his market is all in the very very beginning stages of engineering and literally doesn't know better. Same reason why he's charging $100 for this super basic, not even as good as the stock GarageBand distortion, stupid plugin lol. Anyway, his reply to my comment that day, "Maybe it's just me but when I'm mixing, I mix. I don't worry about gain compensation". I swear to God dude, that's word for word what this "pro" engineer who is supposed to be teaching this stuff said to me. Not to mention I got slammed by all his groupies lol. Jorden would never take advantage of us like that!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA! I mentioned Wyste in that video and he commented he would be reviewing this lol. I've been waiting.
@@matt_nyc_audioengineer I always remember that companies are out to make money. Some dishonestly. Buyer Beware comes to mind. I have never been a fan boy.
@@matt_nyc_audioengineer When I first got started I almost paid for his courses, but I kept reminding myself just how much free shit is on youtube. The more I’ve watched of his videos, I’m glad I didn’t because he seems almost like a con artist
@@DouglasComical Nice dude! Ya I'm a professional and I didn't like what I saw so I took his little free course. All it was was a sales funnel lol. He had you take these tests and I barely even scored in the pro range and I've been doing this for 25 years! I own my own studio in NYC, that's not easy lol. Of course every beginner is going to score low enough that you would recommend your course! He rented out a studio just to shoot the video! Your bedroom was good enough for the free youtube stuff but not when you are trying to "honestly" show us who you are and why we should listen! He's a joke man. Said some crazy stuff to me in a comment once too. **See above for comment**'
"Secret Weapon" is popular with younger folks, in the production area there's a million "secret sauce" videos. I think it stems from the fact that when people suck they think it's because they lack that one "secret" plugin that would make them sound amazing, older folks often do this with vintage analog gear so... yeah, markting.
Could a compressor / limiter be used after a plugin, on a channel to achieve some sort of gain compensation? I guess something like FF set to a neutral setting could work.
Where can I find the perception AB plugin? Would be nice if it would have been linked in the description. Thanks for that great video. By the way Saturation Knob does the same job even lots better. Just my opinion.
I wish there was someway I could tell the plugin manufacturers to just make a volume curve a/b and just err on the side of caution, I'd rather it got quieter than louder bc then i can tell its what I want and not just louder but I'm certain you can easily implement an anti gain for your one knob that gets close enough to be more usable than "MAKES IT SO LOUD IT DOESN'T REMOTELY FIT WHIST YOU'RE TRYING TO DIAL IN A SUBTLE EFFECT"
@whiteseastudio Can you please review the Focusrite "Fast" plugins. I saw your Sonible review and these were made with their AI. It Would be nice to see a comparison.
Does this perception plugin can also do a double blind test? Like shuffling PRE and POST cards and not telling you which is witch until you choose to reveal them. Should be amazing to avoiding confirmation bias. Also all this saturation stile plugins not necessarily maliciously add loudness, it increasing naturally just because we now have "more sound" and they are just to lazy to build a compensator (and it makes plugin more expensive to develop, more power hungry and increases latency and makes it less marketable if it is always on). Of course they should have the option, same as with oversampling.
When you played the toms at 46% both the "dry" and the wet signal sounded saturated. Was the perception plugin routed properly? Nvm. i was wrong. just had to listen more carefully.
If someone had $99 to spend on a saturation plugin, i'd just tell them to try out the new Tone Projects Kelvin instead. Really loving that one so far. Regarding the one-knob philosophy: i personally don't like that. I like to have control, and more elaborate plugins also help you learn more about audio. A plugin like this is actually so basic that it might be surpassed by a bunch of stock plugins from some of the DAWs. And the price is kinda shocking.
This isn't missing SOMETHING. This is missing A LOT. I mean a one-knob plugin for such a huge amount of money? The plugin manufacturers are really loosing it lately. I honestly think the Klanghelm plugins really show what value for money should be like with plugins right now. But this one is just insane 🤦🏼♂️.
Louder is better psycho acoustics is real as the man says. Why else would so many soft & hardware firms use the difference to flog their dead horses? There are also those who "tone suck" when they are inline but OFF so that they seem better when ON.
I love the thoughts on loudness- and not levelcompensation for plugins. I think in mixing situations you are absolutely right (in mastering I actually like to hear how much loudness I'm getting - since the balance is established and I can hear if something throws off the balance (which sucks - when it happens)). However the problem is: nothing can really put perceived loudness into a number. They tried with LUFS.. but we all know this didn't actually work, because there are plenty of mixes at the same LUFS and some of them are perceived SIGNIFICANTLY louder than others. And I think that's the reason why the "outputknob" is THE way to to go. A/B and adjust the output-knob until you are certain that the loudness is not impacted - that's the only way to really judge it. Because saturation, clipping, distortion etc all makes stuff louder without raising the level as much as the loudness. But that's a good topic and I agree with most thoughts. Just adding mine. PS: If it is one day possible to ACTUALLY have an AI levelmatch perceived loudness of plugins, I would love if all plugins had that. And then I'd also want them to add a little number that tells me how much it's turning down the volume in order to loudnessmatch it. Because level/peaks are important too. For instance if I mix into a compressor (on the mix-bus) and the peaks change in level, it is quite possible that I have to turn up the input on the mixbuscompressor in order for it to engage the way I want it to engage.
i like how you think there should be labels to explain what's technically happening when you're supposed to be an engineer and determine what is "good" with your ears.
I kind of wish that DAW developers would just implement an auto gain button on the VST wrapper (as well as a wet/dry knob), so that we are not in the hands of a third party developer.
Why don’t companies implement loudness matching? Same as loudness wars in mastering - they’re happy for people to mistake a small loudness boost for plug-in goodness. I don’t buy the notion that creating an automatic loudness match is programmatically difficult. I do buy the idea that many developers look to get around 1 dB of loudness gain in their algorithms.
Today you could basically just buy a cheap compressor plugin, then re-skin it to make it look more fancy and something else and sell it for 10 x the price.
A fellow youtube studio guy.......I follow him sometimes. He's got some good content, and this is his first venture into the plugin market. This isn't bad, but it's nothing new really, and I've got several other plugs that already do this, and more. $100??, too much imho :-/
He's not a good person dude. It's plain as day if you pay attention to the stuff he does. Even in his videos. He's supposed to be teaching people man. He does, but he makes you pay for it! Noone else does that! Sure some of them also sell courses but the info that he gives for free is poor at best lol.
Yeah, the guy in question has some good content but at least half of what he does is a cash grab. I don’t necessarily blame him - we all gotta make a living and doing it with music is harder than most things. This plugin is a joke though. He made a video a while back offering to hire someone to work on commission to make these and that should have been where it started and ended.
@@7stringprogmetalguy616 I don't know him personally, so I'm careful to not trash a stranger online. I've picked up some good tips from his content, and put them directly into my learning and work. As far as him marketing himself, I don't pay much attention to that honestly. There's a handful of youtube studio people who charge for their courses, or "extended content" offerings. I haven't put out a dime for any of that, but I don't have a problem with them doing it. As far as his venture into creating plugins....this was nothing notable , imho. It sounds like basic saturation "coding"?, and not worth $100. I'm able to wade through all these content creators, and pick out what I find useful. Wytse(sp?) is one of the most honest knowledgeable youtube content creators. His take on this new plug was fair and to the point, and I see no issue with that. Nothing more to say about it really.
Mate! Is there any reason all plugins don't have in and out levels? Auto, rms control and LUFS display options would always be good, but having to add a gain stage to compensate is so tedious and kills the creative flow. Just to A B.... You mentioned you were looking into how eq's are programmed but what about oversampling and I/O levels? They should be in anything calling its self a "professional" audio product imho. Oversampling can be done in the background and be totally material dependant (so not actually always necessary), but levels? Come on guys! 1 job....
Sounds like a generic clipper with no oversampling to me. Not very good. Get Voxengo TubeAmp or Softube Saturation knob for a better and free version of this!
I mean yes it does a good job at what it's supposed to do. It sounds louder at the 46% even at the same loudness. But for €82? Yeah no youvre probably better off getting a free plugin or €24 plugin from waves...
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"If you make a one knob plugin, expect your users to be lazy!" Best advise ever.
Is litterally better the saturator in reaper (free)
So true what you said about loudness and A/B'ing. It seems so obvious but it's not talked about enough in the audio world. So many manufacturers seem to know that the average person doesn't really take this into account and even sometimes set the default/init state of their plugins to simply be a couple of dB louder. It should be illegal. Izotope seem to be the exception to that rule, and most of their plugins have auto-gain matching options.
Level matching is not for saturation... It's more for compression. The whole point of these plugins is to ADD harmonic content.........
Turn down the output if you feel the need to...
Analog Obsession has great distortion for free
Shhhhh! Keep it secret! Keep it safe! ;P haha I hope White Sea reviews more AO plugins.
FETDrive is fantastic, so good on bass
Still waiting for the first one-knob analogue synthesizer
The world definitely needs this
I would make one but I'm already working on a one-cable modular synth.
Not really 1 knob but instantly had to think of AutoGun from FL Studio 🤣
@@Babidibubidi Great username, meddl!
@@lngl7149 grüsse vom schaurigen Berg
I really like Jordan. He's a good guy & has helped me a lot over the last year with certain mixing situations from his channel as I'm learning. He's a metal/rock producer that started this company. Even though this has some usues on single tracks here & there, I haven't given it a second thought because of the price. And, I also have plenty of other distortion/saturation plugins. Like the Black Box, Black Box MS, Abbey Road by Waves.
So, they want to give me saturation+gain knob for 95$? Not bad, but i prefer not to use salt in the kitchen...
It's actually $79.
@@Jake_Sachs with all the competition and better options, I’d say $30 would be pushing it
@@DouglasComical Free would be in line with the competition.
@@DBCisco haha
81€ for one knob. Hopefully, they didn't emulate Moog Modular.
lol
ROFL
Yeah exactly + their trials dont even work
Sorry BSA, that price tag is a joke even for a distortion junkie like me.
Whats your opinion on the Bettermaker stuff? just picked up the limiter and loving it but curious your thoughts
@@Daddyphatsnaps MY GUY hahahaha
One knob saturation for $95?! That's insane, SDDR offers way way more and it's way way cheaper.
Right? For $99 you can get izotope trash with LOADS of saturation and distortion types from subtle to extreme
really nice that you showed the difference / what it sounds like when the loudness was the same.
I am a fan of Jordan, who runs Black Salt Audio. He's a fantastic engineer, teacher, and motivator. I am enrolled in his mixing course and I don't think it is necessarily expensive. It's a great value. I also actually really like these plugins. But that was all prefacing to what I'm about to say: It's kind of nuts how expensive this plug-in is. The pricing was a bad move. I think the whole 'perceived value' psychology went a bit overboard with this one. I hope he considers lowering the price. I want this thing, but I'm not paying that much for it. And I am definitely the type to buy a plug-in I really like. But the Escalator is not worth this price IMO.
As someone who has taken various courses from him, I feel like those leave a little to be desired too, and are a bit pricey, especially compared to other courses like the ones on creative live, don't get me wrong, I'm not a hater, but I think he's way off with his pricing in general, and he uses a lot of bs psychological marketing techniques like closing access to his courses making you feel like you're missing out so you end up pulling the trigger and buying the courses, which are not cheap at all, specially if you live outside of the north American or European territory.
10:27 - why not use a different color hue when the clipping starts?
Softube has something similar in Harmonics and it has more detailed controls... Harmonics is my favorite distortion plugin
I tried this trial on snare drums to help my snare stands better in a mix.
In a mix my snare is kinda buried down even with the volume high.
It's actually really good plugin.
Just can't believe the price of it lol
If im not mistaken it's a new plugin company can't believe they put so high price for a new company
The guy who owns the company is named Jordan Valeriote and he has a youtube channel with a pretty devoted following. He’s probably banking on them paying that price
@@DouglasComical Yeah, but I think he misunderstands his audience. I think his audience (myself included) is musicians and aspiring mixers on a budget that gravitate to free education on TH-cam and the web. The comments on his new plugin videos were very critical of the price as well.
@@weeschwee The company is still going and seems to be very successful. I think people who find their plugins too expensive (I wouldn't pay €70 for this either) underestimate that there are pros who actually use the plugins and like them.
They also seem to be plugins for very specific purposes. If you want a versatile saturation plugin that can do anything, buy Saturn. But if you just want to beef up a vocal or bass in a few seconds and move on, I guess this is the kind of plugin you want.
"Secret weapon"
Are we audio engineers or ninjas??
Hai ! Torinogison !
probably not ninjas, but assassins
Plugin Alliance does that too. It always sounded kind of hokey to me...
Agree strongly about auto loudness being extremely desired in nearly all effects
I'm more interested in that Perception plugin.
damn it looks pretty good. at 120e a bit too expensive as a hobbyist but. maybe if i have some extra some day..
@@SakariKaripuro yeah its not cheap unfortunately. It looks super useful though, at least for testing and learning new plugins.
Try letimix gain match for $19
@@Jvssvl thanks! I'll check it out.
@@Jvssvl thanks, will have a look!
I don't know if i'll sound stupid. But there is an output fader of sorts to reduce the volume once you drive the plugin. Not that i don't appreciate all the things that i've heard when the level dropped at bypass, but my brain kept itching and asking when will he drop the output and do A/B. Even Saturn make things loud.
I agree that this plugin is expensive enough to not have a level match.
i just assumed that this is the same saturation as the Decapitator on E.
Sounds really, really similar. Thought I was tripping.
One knob has all degrees on the potentiometer as settings. I think many pros feel perfectly fine using one knob plugins. Like limiters?
"Some sound that you're getting for free" (Positive way to look at it lol)
But, I mean... The whole point of saturation on drums is to increase loudness while leaving peaks the same
Black salt audio sounds like an alternate dimension version of White Sea studio 😂😂
Gain matching with plugins is crucial if you want to really know if your moves are actually making the mix better. It's so easy to be fooled by volume. Do you have to match volume exactly? Possibly not, but it better be damn close. Not gain-staging your plugins is the main reason why you can't get a loud mix because you've eaten up all your headroom in your system.
It looks like a Nest Thermostat...Don't forget to change the filter! ;-)
This will be my secret weapon! I will never tell anyone. My music will now be on the radio for sure and everyone will love me. Muahahaaaaaa!
Thanks for all that u do!! any chance of testing the BSA clipper...I like the concept, but don't really understand what its doing??
thanks,
mitch
also, do u use clipping plugins?? I apologize if u have already covered this??
It sounds like a compressor with strange clipping. Maybe a clipped parallel compression
What's the name of that plugin you reviewed in the past that's a limiter? Maximiser, maximum, the one where the where claiming it doesn't distort and better than industry limiters?
Thanks for the real-time demo of perception. Very useful
cheers
The creator of this plugin knows what he's doing lol. He knows his little fanboys will buy this plugin all day!
Exactly
@@DBCisco I can't stand Jorden. When he demoed this plugin on his channel I saw right through it and called him out for not gain compensating when showing the plugin. He did it because his market is all in the very very beginning stages of engineering and literally doesn't know better. Same reason why he's charging $100 for this super basic, not even as good as the stock GarageBand distortion, stupid plugin lol. Anyway, his reply to my comment that day, "Maybe it's just me but when I'm mixing, I mix. I don't worry about gain compensation". I swear to God dude, that's word for word what this "pro" engineer who is supposed to be teaching this stuff said to me. Not to mention I got slammed by all his groupies lol. Jorden would never take advantage of us like that!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA! I mentioned Wyste in that video and he commented he would be reviewing this lol. I've been waiting.
@@matt_nyc_audioengineer I always remember that companies are out to make money. Some dishonestly. Buyer Beware comes to mind. I have never been a fan boy.
@@matt_nyc_audioengineer When I first got started I almost paid for his courses, but I kept reminding myself just how much free shit is on youtube. The more I’ve watched of his videos, I’m glad I didn’t because he seems almost like a con artist
@@DouglasComical Nice dude! Ya I'm a professional and I didn't like what I saw so I took his little free course. All it was was a sales funnel lol. He had you take these tests and I barely even scored in the pro range and I've been doing this for 25 years! I own my own studio in NYC, that's not easy lol. Of course every beginner is going to score low enough that you would recommend your course! He rented out a studio just to shoot the video! Your bedroom was good enough for the free youtube stuff but not when you are trying to "honestly" show us who you are and why we should listen! He's a joke man. Said some crazy stuff to me in a comment once too. **See above for comment**'
"Secret Weapon" is popular with younger folks, in the production area there's a million "secret sauce" videos. I think it stems from the fact that when people suck they think it's because they lack that one "secret" plugin that would make them sound amazing, older folks often do this with vintage analog gear so... yeah, markting.
I have looked at Perception A/B but am on the fence. Any thoughts on it ... how is cpu drain ... worth the money?
I watched this cause I was half curious about Escalator, but I've left way more interested in that Perception AB plugin. That seems great :-)
Could a compressor / limiter be used after a plugin, on a channel to achieve some sort of gain compensation? I guess something like FF set to a neutral setting could work.
Reminds me of the Presonus 'Softube Saturation Knob'
Main difference being that the Softube saturation knob is free 🤣
@@nicholassturgess-monks4458 I have used Presonus and Arturia products for years. Solid products at reasonable prices in my opinion
Softube is the company. Presonus just sells it on their site.
@@MellowXBrew Yeah, it is free from Presonus as an add on to Studio One
@@MellowXBrew It is also free from Softube
Klevgrand has a free Saturator with good sound…
Wonderful! A new "secret" weapon that everyone knows about - I better get on this action quick - XD
Where can I find the perception AB plugin? Would be nice if it would have been linked in the description.
Thanks for that great video.
By the way Saturation Knob does the same job even lots better. Just my opinion.
I wish there was someway I could tell the plugin manufacturers to just make a volume curve a/b and just err on the side of caution, I'd rather it got quieter than louder bc then i can tell its what I want and not just louder but I'm certain you can easily implement an anti gain for your one knob that gets close enough to be more usable than "MAKES IT SO LOUD IT DOESN'T REMOTELY FIT WHIST YOU'RE TRYING TO DIAL IN A SUBTLE EFFECT"
@whiteseastudio Can you please review the Focusrite "Fast" plugins. I saw your Sonible review and these were made with their AI. It Would be nice to see a comparison.
Does this perception plugin can also do a double blind test? Like shuffling PRE and POST cards and not telling you which is witch until you choose to reveal them. Should be amazing to avoiding confirmation bias.
Also all this saturation stile plugins not necessarily maliciously add loudness, it increasing naturally just because we now have "more sound" and they are just to lazy to build a compensator (and it makes plugin more expensive to develop, more power hungry and increases latency and makes it less marketable if it is always on). Of course they should have the option, same as with oversampling.
When you played the toms at 46% both the "dry" and the wet signal sounded saturated. Was the perception plugin routed properly? Nvm. i was wrong. just had to listen more carefully.
Great Review. Thank you!
You are the funniest man I have ever heard of 😂😂 chears man I love your videos ❤️❤️❤️❤️
If someone had $99 to spend on a saturation plugin, i'd just tell them to try out the new Tone Projects Kelvin instead. Really loving that one so far.
Regarding the one-knob philosophy: i personally don't like that. I like to have control, and more elaborate plugins also help you learn more about audio. A plugin like this is actually so basic that it might be surpassed by a bunch of stock plugins from some of the DAWs. And the price is kinda shocking.
your voice is crisp clear
Great thanks for the info!
Wait. Am I missing something here? Are you saying the Perception plugin actually adjusts gain based on "Loudness", not RMS?
Yes
Also no mix knob
Palette was the word you where looking for ;)
This isn't missing SOMETHING. This is missing A LOT. I mean a one-knob plugin for such a huge amount of money? The plugin manufacturers are really loosing it lately. I honestly think the Klanghelm plugins really show what value for money should be like with plugins right now. But this one is just insane 🤦🏼♂️.
Klanghelm is awesome, Hornet too.
Not sure about the plug-in, but Darude's Drumming skills have never been so good :P
Brillian analisis, as always
Louder is better psycho acoustics is real as the man says. Why else would so many soft & hardware firms use the difference to flog their dead horses? There are also those who "tone suck" when they are inline but OFF so that they seem better when ON.
Can Saturn be used as "one knob"?
technically yes, if you pick the right type.
The one knob sortofration costs 2/3 of what that professional level-matching AB plugin does.
Pallet. The word you are looking for is pallet. It's the same in Dutch.
where are you finding all these covers of sandstorm? there is a lot of.. variety 💀
Unrelated: curious to hear what you have to say about Apple's "spatial audio"
Palette, Wytse.... :-D They word you were looking for is colour palette.
Actually, pretty impressive even with Perception On.
Waves do a lot of good one knob vsts. Mackie have a big knob 😂😂
Great video, there low control plugin is much better
"Secret weapon" "Swiss army knife" ''Holy Grail'' "Mojo" "Class of its own"......
Inastant red flag.
Don't forget "Warm"
Are you actually using your dutch and Dutch?
They are not mine, and going back to D&D soon
Louder is better. Lemmy new that :-)
I did the pre trial on this before it was released and enjoyed it. Then the price came out and I said "Kick Rocks, I'll use Saturn 2"
I love the thoughts on loudness- and not levelcompensation for plugins. I think in mixing situations you are absolutely right (in mastering I actually like to hear how much loudness I'm getting - since the balance is established and I can hear if something throws off the balance (which sucks - when it happens)). However the problem is: nothing can really put perceived loudness into a number. They tried with LUFS.. but we all know this didn't actually work, because there are plenty of mixes at the same LUFS and some of them are perceived SIGNIFICANTLY louder than others. And I think that's the reason why the "outputknob" is THE way to to go. A/B and adjust the output-knob until you are certain that the loudness is not impacted - that's the only way to really judge it. Because saturation, clipping, distortion etc all makes stuff louder without raising the level as much as the loudness. But that's a good topic and I agree with most thoughts. Just adding mine.
PS: If it is one day possible to ACTUALLY have an AI levelmatch perceived loudness of plugins, I would love if all plugins had that. And then I'd also want them to add a little number that tells me how much it's turning down the volume in order to loudnessmatch it. Because level/peaks are important too. For instance if I mix into a compressor (on the mix-bus) and the peaks change in level, it is quite possible that I have to turn up the input on the mixbuscompressor in order for it to engage the way I want it to engage.
i like how you think there should be labels to explain what's technically happening when you're supposed to be an engineer and determine what is "good" with your ears.
I kind of wish that DAW developers would just implement an auto gain button on the VST wrapper (as well as a wet/dry knob), so that we are not in the hands of a third party developer.
Softube has a free single knob saturation lol
Nani has two knobs and different Distortion types just saying lol 😂🤣🤷♂️
two big "knobs".
The plugin of Kings.
It's actually $79, though I realize this isn't what €82 translates to. I don't know why they didn't do a proper conversion there.
Why don’t companies implement loudness matching? Same as loudness wars in mastering - they’re happy for people to mistake a small loudness boost for plug-in goodness. I don’t buy the notion that creating an automatic loudness match is programmatically difficult. I do buy the idea that many developers look to get around 1 dB of loudness gain in their algorithms.
the dude who makes this has a video to explain this, its a clipper.
Price is insane for something that has been done a million times before as well or better for >$30
color palette :-)
Today you could basically just buy a cheap compressor plugin, then re-skin it to make it look more fancy and something else and sell it for 10 x the price.
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A fellow youtube studio guy.......I follow him sometimes. He's got some good content, and this is his first venture into the plugin market. This isn't bad, but it's nothing new really, and I've got several other plugs that already do this, and more. $100??, too much imho :-/
He's not a good person dude. It's plain as day if you pay attention to the stuff he does. Even in his videos. He's supposed to be teaching people man. He does, but he makes you pay for it! Noone else does that! Sure some of them also sell courses but the info that he gives for free is poor at best lol.
Yeah, the guy in question has some good content but at least half of what he does is a cash grab. I don’t necessarily blame him - we all gotta make a living and doing it with music is harder than most things. This plugin is a joke though. He made a video a while back offering to hire someone to work on commission to make these and that should have been where it started and ended.
@@7stringprogmetalguy616 I don't know him personally, so I'm careful to not trash a stranger online. I've picked up some good tips from his content, and put them directly into my learning and work. As far as him marketing himself, I don't pay much attention to that honestly. There's a handful of youtube studio people who charge for their courses, or "extended content" offerings. I haven't put out a dime for any of that, but I don't have a problem with them doing it. As far as his venture into creating plugins....this was nothing notable , imho. It sounds like basic saturation "coding"?, and not worth $100.
I'm able to wade through all these content creators, and pick out what I find useful.
Wytse(sp?) is one of the most honest knowledgeable youtube content creators. His take on this new plug was fair and to the point, and I see no issue with that. Nothing more to say about it really.
@@J-DUB-F1 basically my take on the matter. Move along, nothing to see here.
I kinda want to become a plugin developer now... one knob and you can make 95$ damn... it doesn't even have a pretty interface...
Mate! Is there any reason all plugins don't have in and out levels? Auto, rms control and LUFS display options would always be good, but having to add a gain stage to compensate is so tedious and kills the creative flow. Just to A B.... You mentioned you were looking into how eq's are programmed but what about oversampling and I/O levels? They should be in anything calling its self a "professional" audio product imho. Oversampling can be done in the background and be totally material dependant (so not actually always necessary), but levels? Come on guys! 1 job....
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White Sea is discussing Black Salt.
1 knob 34 page manual.
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Sounds like a generic clipper with no oversampling to me. Not very good. Get Voxengo TubeAmp or Softube Saturation knob for a better and free version of this!
The secret "Sauce" is understanding what you are doing on every stage of your mix!
Learn the basics and thank me later :)
Perception AB is $150 thats the real snake oil lol
Certified Snake Oil!
looks like a thermostat
Venn Audio V-Clip + Custom Clipping Shape + compressor = Same results without spending 100 dollars....
I mean yes it does a good job at what it's supposed to do. It sounds louder at the 46% even at the same loudness. But for €82? Yeah no youvre probably better off getting a free plugin or €24 plugin from waves...
Oh, if the dutch and dutch ones just are standing on the sides feel free to send them to me XD
wait...."Secret Weapons?" aren't those called "Ears"?
and perhaps how we treat our control room lmao.