I’m on team “Lithium Battery Fire” with the possible addition of “there was other things mayhaps not on the manifest they didn’t want people finding in the wreckage after the fact”
If people knew the true danger of lithium batteries it would really hamper the globalist green agenda. I can see how multiple governments and powerful corpos would want it covered up.
Based solely on how Ashton was talking when he was on the podcast, I'm not in the least surprised that he came in chat crying like a 2 year old and then rage quit said chat. The dude thinks he's above any form of criticism and it was obvious from the start to anyone who pays attention to human behavior.
Ashton Forbes is an autistic Redditor. If you disagree with him, he blocks you. He speaks as if it's impossible for him to be wrong about anything. The man has 3-4 months of time spent "investigating" this & zero experience in ANYTHING he's spoken about. His sources are from anonymous Redditors in most cases w/ zero proof that their claims of expertise are grounded in reality. We want the truth, but not from someone with too much of an ego to admit when he could be wrong.
Ashton Forbes is an autistic Redditor. If you disagree with him, he blocks you. He speaks as if it's impossible for him to be wrong about anything. The man has 3-4 months of time spent "investigating" this & zero experience in ANYTHING he's spoken about. His sources are from anonymous Redditors in most cases w/ zero proof that their claims of expertise are grounded in reality. We want the truth, but not from someone with too much of an ego to admit when he could be wrong.
Being blocked means that the dude lost the argument. And having watched his meltdown live in the stream its clear he was a quack. Wear it as a badge of pride that the lore lodge triggered yet another quack.
I picked up on him being a quack when he was getting basic Relativity wrong and introducing elements into it that have nothing to do with the time dilation aspect of it as evidence.
"He's 20 years older than us so maybe he doesn't understand". I'm not quite 20 years older, but quite a bit older than you, and I looked at the video and was like "my kid could make that". Dude is just crazy
My honest advice to you guys would be to de list the stream with Ashton. He said it the best himself, “he’s living rent free”. He really just wants to use as many platforms as he can to get attention with zero respect for the hosts. The great community you guys have built doesn’t deserve that kind of bullshit. And just as importantly neither do you guys.
My entire knowledge of Philly and Pennsylvania in general is "Its always sunny in Philly" and Amish people. Your discussion of the birds confirms my internal stereotypes.
I live in Jersey, and I have to tell you… they’re worse than the stereotypes. They pelt Santa with snowballs, cheer when players get career ending injuries, etc. I’m actually friends with some Eagles fans, but I just pretend they’re not. The Amish make the best beef jerky though, so you should definitely try some of that.
@@Thor-OrionAs a Pennsylvanian, just please let it be known that the vast majority of the states' inhabitants are great people, especially in the area some out-of-staters mockingly call "Pennsyltucky" (the Appalachia region and even Lancaster and the Poconos). Philly unfortunately has become an outright parasite on the state, and that's coming from someone who lives just outside of that cesspool. I will never not be disappointed and annoyed that Philly has turned into this.
@@SockieTheSockPuppet I’m actually mostly just messing around, I love Pennsylvania, although your pizza leaves a lot to be desired, that’s not your fault and you make up for it with your cheesesteaks! Take care, buddy. Oh and I know about Philly. All the cities with Soros DA’s are now irredeemable shit holes.
The main problem I have with the Lithium fire theory is that the fire wouldn't immediately cause all connections with the plane to be severed. In the case of UPS flight 6 where a lithium battery fire resulted in that plane's crash, the crew had contact with ATC and other planes the entire time up until the last few moments before the plane crashed. Should check it out.
You'll be happy to learn that a youTuber channel by the name of "Dom Burgess" uploaded a recreation of the MH370 video about 15 hours ago. I have no connection to his channel, but I did watch it and it's well done.
Aidan, you're being way too charitable with Ashton after that interaction. You did absolutely nothing wrong and the way he handled himself was absolutely pathetic, the fact he's a grown man makes it so much worse. He's not only discredited himself with that exchange, he's discredited his whole theory.
Will go in order of things said by Ashton 49:27 1st: "Wow I'm living rent free in people's heads" 50:00 2nd: "If you didn't talk smack about me, maybe you wouldn't be blocked?" 51:31 3rd: "why are you guys so mad? lmao" 52:41 4th: "When you want to admit you're wrong, investigation will be here" Lore Lodge doesn't respond to the last one There may be more before or after, but I didn't stare at chat waiting for it
I want to say it was SomeOrdinaryGamer that had a video regarding the portal. Apparently it matches a video game effect from several years ago. The similarity is near identical. EDIT: aaaaand you mentioned it LOL.
@@carsonwilkins2971It's about 50 minutes into the video in chat. Long story short, he's being a salty ɓ!+çh because Aiden & Co. don't believe his hype.
I think a good term for what yall are trying to say in the 27 minute mark is "correlation does not equal causation". That being said, I was an imagery analyst in the Army some 11 years ago, and speaking only in regard to unclassified space based assets, I never saw video recorded from a space based asset like that. Like you guys said, those satellites are moving unbelievably fast, so the angle shift of a real time video would be drastically visible. To get video like that looks to me like it could be another flight based asset. Just my opinion and analysis.
My husband has watched drones do their thing in real time. He's got a very high clearance, so he couldn't give me details, but he was like "yeah that's not real"
Isn't the theory with the satellites though that there is a multi satellite network gathering sensor overlapping sensor data of the entire earth which is then fed into software and rendered into video when you observe a specific location? I'm sure it would correct for the satellite's orbit so that specific sites can be under constant surveillance.
@williamfillion if that were the case, even under constant surveillance the speed at which the satellites travel in orbit would show in a video as the asset rotated to stay fixed on a specific target. With overlapping satellites as you suggest, there would be that roll, on top of the shift between assets. For a good example, one can look at the videos of the Earth taken from the ISS, that is a good example showing just how fast things move in orbit.
@@codycorolla7151 good point, I still imagine that they could correct for the movement, if they know how fast the satellite is moving and the angle it's looking at, and if another satellite had overlap from a different perspective maybe the data could be combined and corrected for? I am very much talking out of my ass here though so you may be 100% correct haha
Matching stock footage has to be the smoking gun that it's not authentic. I have no agenda other than I care about the truth. I'd love to hear the arguement as to how it can be real if the portal itself lines up almost exact with stock footage. I can't imagine a sane argument.
They matched stock footage, AND the background still frame has been found as well. And Ashton proceeded to claim there's some kind of conspiracy between the photographer, the hosting page, and some redditor that found it. He thinks they took the image from the video and uploaded it to the repository. Even though the repository page predates the video but isn't on the "way back machine" because it wasn't cached before the page was relaunched in a date after the video upload, so Ashton thinks it was added after the fact. The repository version is also higher resolution and much larger, containing things that aren't in the video, so he's really desperate now.
@@dwatts64 Ashton has moved on to promoting free energy devices for $50,000. I wish I was making a joke but it's actually true. Some people have no awareness outside of their own thoughts, ideas, and selfish needs. The guy doesn't care at all about anything other than what's in it for him. If I truly believed that 3 orbs opened up a portal in the space-time continuum big enough for an airplane, I wouldn't stop my investigation until I proved it. But hey, that's just me. It does reveal a lot about his character to go from one delusional idea to another scientific fantasy.. He's either deliberately exploiting people on the fringes or he's a sociopath. The educational system has failed a lot of people. Imagine spending a minimum of 12 years in school and you come out incapable of rational thinking.
@@giosasso also my first commitment was more directed at kingpotato up there, because it sounded like he thinks Ashton is on to something with all of this.
According to the interwebs, several sites list max speed at 683 mph. But that would likely be under ideal conditions, flying straight, favorable winds, etc
Have you read The Disappearance Act? It's a book about MH370 by a French journalist who researched the case. She came to the conclusion that it was shot down by the US due to the cargo that was onboard. She also gave a talk about her book at the Hong Kong Foreign Correspondent's Club, which can be found on TH-cam.
"She came to the conclusion that it was shot down by the US due to the cargo that was onboard. " Okay. What cargo could possibly be worth murdering more than 200 citizens of a nuclear armed regional super power, with massive political and economic influence around the globe?
The Predator's range is a function of its fuel capacity. The ground control station can be (and often is) on the other side of the planet. They're linked via satellite. If you look at a pic of a pred, you'll see a big bulbs where the cockpit would be on an ordinary plane. Under that jump is a big, rotating satellite dish.
Surprised that a grown man got mad because you said "yeah that video of the plane going into a wormhole is probably fake" People give me weird looks nd think I'm crazy when I say I think the Wendigo is real, I don't harass them on Facebook when they disagree with me.
I've helped out with the archaeological dig at El Araj, Israel. We have so much information pointing to it being biblical Bethsaida, but the nearby site et-tell wants to be the correct site so bad there's a lot of funny explanations defending their site.
I wish Elon Musk would start funding digs or something, the number of arguments that seem to be to do with money or reputation more than facts is staggering
I'm not overly shocked, much as I hate to say it. He's got passion but it got ahead of him. When he was om the podcast, towards the end people started pointing out flaws in that argument and he immediately got condescending towards the chat. Thesecond he, a guest, got rude towards others I knew this was coming and it sucks
@SockieTheSockPuppet I don't quite understand what you mean by third part? It was in the podcast last week when they had him on. He just took up a holier than thou attitude. I'd have to go back and rewatch it to remember exactly what happened, but I guarantee if you watch the podcast you'll catch it, it's towards the end
Haha that’s the other thing I remember about this channel. The one dude doesn’t like to be interrupted by his buddy but interrupts his buddy all the time. Cracks me up
Your Occam's Razor theory about "lithium battery fire" however is impure, because the actual Occam's Razor for this would need to be "lithium battery fire AND the Malaysian government and all other parties involved to any capacity" all are assisting to cover it up for...reasons? So you see how weak that theory is when used within the proper way of applying Occam's Razor. Even the theory that Lithium Fire, plan lost comms, diverted into airspace and was accidentally shot down by authorities and then covered up has more merit under the Occam's Razor parameters of application. However, any plan that crashes is incredibly hard to cover up due to the massive debris field unless it were to crash in the ocean hundreds of miles from any populated shoreline and that would not have happened if the plane came down in the timing of a lithium fire or being accidentally shot down. I think you have done an excellent job of debunking Ashton Forbes and the videos. But you have not really done a very good job with your alternative theories and I think you should spend the time to debunk your own theories, playing devil's advocate before applying Occam's Razor to it with this certainty.
Correct. No evidence of fire. Behavior of aircraft not consistent with fire or mechanical issue, except by huge stretch of the imagination and dismissal of most of the hard evidence (Inmarsat, SIO debris). The most apparent cause is air piracy, with hardened cockpit doors, ends up pointing to the pilot. Not to mention the suspicious home sim data, which is one of many areas that this podcast series tried to be dismissive. Just me talking, but my guess FBI was not dismissive of the sim data when they discussed it secretly with Malaysia.
@@billtracy8774 Yeah, I really like these guy's but they have a definite anti-government bias which I believe has influenced their opinions on this case and some others.
Depends on point in flight, usually it’s a half way point if they still have maneuver capabilities. Also I would love to have you guys do a video regarding the schematics of the B777 and if a fire in the cargo hold would disrupt all comms wiring, the ACARS system and Transponder system. I believe in the lithium batt theory but these are the questions I have that I can’t answer and you guys are exponentially more capable in answering these with viable evidence. Thanks and love the channel 🤙
23:37 Thornbury with his hair like that would make a sick Medieval Times actor (if you guys have never been to a Medieval Times show I highly recommend, it's a blast)
Im a fox mulder type, i want to believe. But even more than that, i want to know the truth. I wanted to believe that something incredible happened and it was caught on video and the government is being exposed for a cover up and they have access to this technology. But the truth, after seeing so many people convincingly debunk these two videos, is that we dont have any proof of the incredible. Aiden said he believes Ashton is genuine and wants to find the truth. Im more convinced Ashton's priority is on generating viewership over these made-up videos, rather than actually finding the truth about MH370
There's no way a guy that keeps trying to shout from the highest rooftops that he and only he is the one who cracked this and everyone else is lying isn't a clout chaser. I think they just wanted to keep it polite to the end but thebguy is clearly clout chasing.
@@JSwanKilowJ you could be right though it's pretty pathetic if that's the case considering his age. By coming on podcasts like this he's only finding bigger stages to look stupid on. But who knows maybe he has a humiliation fetish and enjoys the negative attention. You never know with people online these days.
@xKinjax I certainly don't mean to speak ill of him. But I definitely get the sense his priority is NOT on finding the truth, rather, convincing people that those videos are real
Mentioning graphene made me laugh. Current company I'm with right now has transferred from a few different materials with weather working with, but that being a main one that they're now using is changed. A lot of the products in it stuff we've seen in learning about with it is insane
Helious flight 522 flew for hours after all the passengers where incapacitated from hypoxia. Might be a combo of multiple failurrs fire + hypoxica + over redundant systems to keep plane flying.
Have y'all considered looking into the dissapperence of Gretchin Fleming? It's an ongoing investigation but thought it would be something like the Gabby Petito case, just a thought.
I'm really surprised that a conspiracy podcast didn't cover the biggest, most obvious conspiracy out of all of them. MH370 was flown to Diego Garcia! I'm also super surprised you guys didn't cover this considering that even in main stream news the flight simulator had a flight path to Diego Garcia. Huge red flags. Also people around the area of the Maldives and other ships reported seeing a large jet liner en route to direction of Diego Garcia. They stated that it was super rare to see a tiny cessna let alone a huge jet liner matching the description of the missing jet. Also just because there was "nobody super VIP" on there doesn't mean the government has not killed or abducted people who were far less important in the past. I'm sorry but you guys should really do a deep dive into this. There's plenty of sources and eye witness accounts.
Maybe my theory was discussed, I may watch later, but all of the "evidence" presented to the public indicates that the pilot intended to survive. This happened not too long after Sully showed that a plane could land on water safely, and who else checked the weather forecast west of Australia but me (it was dead calm). It was initially reported the plane climbed to 48k feet before the turn. The pilot killed everyone aboard, and then had several hours on auto-pilot to comb the cabin for cash, jewelry, and other valuables, and probably had access to the cargo hold as well. He landed on a dead-calm sea (away from shipping lanes), and was picked up by an accomplice in a fishing or sailboat and both are enjoying a new life in an exotic locale. How's that for a movie?
Ashton seems to be going after people in chat and not you two at least at first I’m re watching to see what he says and when but yeah he’s being a bit of a jerk from the first two things he said. (Edit) yeah he seems to just be an arrogant asshole shame you platformed him only for him to do that.
I dont know if you guts read these cimments @The Lore Lodge but if you want something wierd to look into how about looking at tge differences in the algorythm between chinese language TikTok and english language TikTok. For example supposedly Chinese language TikTok promotes pgysical fitness, education, hygiene etc while english language TikTok promotes Fat acceptence, Genderspecials, and new pronouns.
The simple fact that the plane deviated from its flight path clearly indicates an issue with the pilot. His personal life is not exactly what has been disclosed publicly. All of the hard evidence eliminates the battery theory, and it's unlikely the plane was hijacked without assistance from the pilot himself. Ashton's theory is very unlikely too. personally i believe he may be the originator of the vids he's showing and promoting. That kind of data is never "leaked" without serious consequences to the leaker. How ashtons vid came about is sketchy, to say the least. I do absolutely believe we have tech way beyond what is public, and that we do have the capabilities that ashton speaks about, BUT in order to buy into ashton's theory, you have to dismiss a lot of other hard evidence which suggests something different happened. and Ashton is very dismissive of other very relevant evidence because it doesn't fit into his theory. Immersat could have possibly fabricated data for a "cover up" and they have been known to do so in the past. Inmarsat is far from "trustworthy" however, I don't believe they faked any info, and if they did, it was not to "cover up" the orbs and wormhole taking the plane. Diego Garcia? Data indicated the plane didnt go around there, could that be what is covered up? The plane's flight path and the pilot's "holding pattern" is also very interesting. The PILOT is absolutely connected to whatever happened to that flight. Something is totally being hidden/covered up from the public, but what? The primary issue with the pilot theory is motive. What could it be? It looks like something in the cargo could be possibly connected to the motive...but that's just a guess. He had other things in his life going on that havent been examined enough. The pilot's simulator data is VERY suspect and was dismissed and passed over, which I find interesting and troubling. The plane is most likely in the Ocean somewhere, and we may never find it. It's become clear that the search was being conducted in the wrong place. We will likely never really know what happened and why the pilot did this.
When you were talking of ufo hoaxes, i remembered the national news in 2020 talking about the ufo in Alaska... I looked at those articles like 🤣🤣 because the video in Alaska was shot at a Wawa.... there is no Wawa in Alaska.
I am not a believer in the lithium-ion battery theory. First of all, when did they ignite? It wouldn't take long for all those batteries to be flaming, and they burn so hot that in no time, that plane would have been burned in half. Secondly, based on where it was supposedly seen burning and falling into the ocean, it was well off course, meaning that it was taken off course prior to the batteries igniting. So why were they off course before the batteries ignited? Maybe this was a murder-suicide that was interrupted by the batteries igniting [?]. If the batteries ignited and the plane crashed, there would have been a massive debris field [there was not]. Thirdly, we get to the actual murder-suicide theory, which is what I believe. I believe it was a murder-suicide because Inmarsat was getting pings up to the point that the plane went down. The plane went down as it ran out of fuel, and that was determined by a lot of proven facts, such as the course on the senior pilot's home computer and the data from Inmarsat. Also, since there was very little debris, it can be assumed that the pilot did a controlled ditch into the ocean.
About the drone. It could be that it was flying in the area doing someone unrelated and when there was an issue finding the plane they could have sent it on an intercept course. Not saying it was or was not really there just that it’s possible and would explain how it got there when it did.
I don't think it would be a fire. I feel like the pilots would have had longer to say something over the radio. Unless the batteries were stored exactly under those vital electronics then they should have gotten something out.
The loss of radio contact at the handoff is something I still have questions about. They should probably let ATC converse in their own language in emergency situations like that.
There is a clip from the satellite vid that shows the first orb rushing up to circle the plane - en route it passes through the tip of one of the clouds….and leaves a hole. Granted, this could be vfx as well. But really? It’s a minuscule detail. Does that dull the razor a bit?
Ashton in one of his interviews says that the plane was on a curve descending fast towards the Indian Ocean as seen in those two videos in an attempt at emergency landing and the plane could not be more than ten thousand feet from the ocean surface, yet he concludes by saying that the plane was forced by those orbs into a worm hole or some such abyss not properly defined by him. Would a worm hole be found within ten thousand feet from the ocean surface? Someone please explain..
I’d like to give you some clarity about the bogus patent ownership issue. It’s even simpler than you describe. It’s US patent 8,671,381.PN that’s in question, and while there are 5 inventors listed on the patent, you can’t just divide the ownership by that number, because each contributed vastly different amounts to the patent. And because I’m this case, all 5 assigned 100% of their rights to the patent to Freescale-it’s listed on the front page as item 73. So no matter how many of them are alive, Freescale owns 100% of that patent. Source: I wrote a dozen-ish patent applications on the behalf of others, and am a named inventor on two of them, but have zero ownership of any.
I always fig it was a battery fire but the one thing that bothered me about that was why was there no mayday or even a attempt at it i understand would of been a pretty quick fire but still
Fire on board? Um... I would think that you'd need a proper bomb-like explosion to disable onboard systems so suddenly. Once a fire is detected, certainly the crew would have had time to at least blurt out some sort of message before all systems failed. I'd like to see an analysis on how a battery fire could have caused such a catastrophic failure and brought down the aircraft. No, as I noted under your other video, it was indeed a case of the captain deciding at some point to turn the plane around and head way off course into the Indian Ocean. However, I do deviate from others who think the intent was to do what it ultimately did, which is to continue on towards the space off the coast of Australia. What I firmly believe is that the idea was to land on either Christmas Island or Cocos Islands. However, the perpetrator passed out before he reached either. One panel of experts figured he veered towards Christmas Island but ran out of fuel short of his target. What that doesn't answer is why there were no radio transmissions to alert the authorities on the relevant island.
If the lithium battery burned through water lines and someone used a bathroom, water spilled on open lithium fire, you have a boom. But really bad maintenance in countries like Malaysia with fire under deck would be enough to scrap the plane 🤔🤷.
It depends on where the lithium batteries were in the cargo. If they were near any sort of critical electronics it likely means the fire would melt things before communication could get out.
@@TheLoreLodgeprops to you for keeping politics mostly out of videos. I’ve watched a bunch of your edited videos and now just going through the podcasts, really haven’t caught on to anything political and really appreciate that in this political world we are surrounded by. Of course I’m also libertarian so maybe I just don’t hear it lol
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Ashton and Jeff wise are two top notch phonies presenting tv shows on mh370 with a great degree of panache. Their understanding of physics, science and engineering are zero and can be beaten only by their lack of common sense..
I'm not really into drones, helicopters and cameras, but if the frequency was correct wouldn't orbs be visible (apart from the vids looking like being fakes for me from the start), like helicopter's or drone's blades look like they move really slow or are not moving at all 🤔🤷?
@@joeredman569go back to drooling over fake videos if you don't like their content. Your guy unironically asked "why would anyone fake this?" like that's an argument when people fake everything from news to porn on the daily. I know you probably loved Stargate SG-1 but remember that it's just a fictional TV show and there's no wormholes to other planets.
@@joeredman569 true. You're just posting unhinged comments calling anyone who doesn't see things your way paid opposition. You're so much better than us.
@@joeredman569your also not into putting forth a defense apparently or evidence or a rational explanation. And no stating the government can perform magic(no you cannot just remove mass from an object have it remain in one piece with the people still inside leaving no evidence behind no matter how much techno babble you want to throw) is not a defense
I am surprised you reject the Jeff Wise Theory out of hand. Based on the time period, global tensions, etc. I've always thought it was the most plausible. I only ever questioned how motivated Russia would have been, in the middle of a "war", to expend significant resource on an attack whose goals were not very clear except to prove "We can do this". I'm like "Sure you can. Once." Sending a top person on a suicide mission means, even if successful, it's not a continual capability. If the thought is the mission WAS successful and they were able to get the plane to the runway in Kahzikstan the main asset they used in the attack is a guy who basically gave up his life and family to pull it off. Interestingly, his family, when interviewed after the Wise Theory came out, would not admit they thought he was dead but expected to never hear from him again either way. I found many many compelling aspects to the Wise Theory.
It doesn't make sense to me that one MH370 video is real and one is not. What that would mean is that someone came across the the satellite/overhead video, and then randomly decided to create a fake video that somewhat matches it...? What purpose would that serve? Would that add credibility somehow to the other video? I just don't see the purpose.
There had been a few similar fires on cargo planes and no one took any regulatory action afterwards. It would have come out they knew this was possible. New regulations were quietly put in place a few months after.
I remember those regulations going in place very quickly afterwards and suspecting they may have been connected but hadn’t been paying much attention. It was also around that time when a few phones caught fire on planes and it was getting difficult to cover up. I can completely see the US (and others) wanting to cover this up. Working in the chemical industry there are very very strict chemical transportation limits and they change quietly and often. Some things that you wouldn’t think twice about are fine for commercial airlines in small amounts but we can’t ship them even in moderate quantities by air because of the dangers.
With the current state of EVanglism. I can easily see a thermal runaway event being covered up. If it was lion batteries that caused the flight to drop it would have killed the EV push in its tracks.
MatPat, the face of the channel Game Theory, Food Theory, Film Theory, and Style Theory did a video on pizza from different areas of the US and concluded that it was because of the water. The video is on Food Theory.
Hey guys, the Hellen Keller comments arent cool. Im an ASL interpreter, i have the opportunity to work with deaf/blind people a lot. They're definitely real, out living their lives.
I like how you're going about this boys! Challenges. Hey ironically, isn't this the exact process for how Tartarian archeological buildings created? Didn't they just hold a competition and the best one wins they get to create a building? Lol. Just cause I like triggering people 🤪
I’m on team “Lithium Battery Fire” with the possible addition of “there was other things mayhaps not on the manifest they didn’t want people finding in the wreckage after the fact”
The other thing could be as simple as insider drug trafficking, for all we know.
777s had known issues at that time, and with Malaysian maintenance records, im convinced multiple parties dont want it found
If people knew the true danger of lithium batteries it would really hamper the globalist green agenda. I can see how multiple governments and powerful corpos would want it covered up.
Based solely on how Ashton was talking when he was on the podcast, I'm not in the least surprised that he came in chat crying like a 2 year old and then rage quit said chat.
The dude thinks he's above any form of criticism and it was obvious from the start to anyone who pays attention to human behavior.
Ashton Forbes is an autistic Redditor. If you disagree with him, he blocks you. He speaks as if it's impossible for him to be wrong about anything.
The man has 3-4 months of time spent "investigating" this & zero experience in ANYTHING he's spoken about.
His sources are from anonymous Redditors in most cases w/ zero proof that their claims of expertise are grounded in reality.
We want the truth, but not from someone with too much of an ego to admit when he could be wrong.
He's absolutely rude. Like as soon as the Aidens got close to disagreeing during the podcast, Ashton became instantly defensive and ridiculous
The most funniest chat from Ashton was he will only investigate when they admit that they were wrong. 😅
Ashton Forbes is an autistic Redditor. If you disagree with him, he blocks you. He speaks as if it's impossible for him to be wrong about anything.
The man has 3-4 months of time spent "investigating" this & zero experience in ANYTHING he's spoken about.
His sources are from anonymous Redditors in most cases w/ zero proof that their claims of expertise are grounded in reality.
We want the truth, but not from someone with too much of an ego to admit when he could be wrong.
Being blocked means that the dude lost the argument. And having watched his meltdown live in the stream its clear he was a quack. Wear it as a badge of pride that the lore lodge triggered yet another quack.
What other quacks have they gotten mad?
Every single person who believes in Tartaria for one 😂
@@ReconPro The woman who started the "The Rome Emprire is a Catholic fiction" conspiracy had a melt down at them a while back.
I don't know why.
@@sfsin3380bc she's batshit crazy? Occam's Razor lol
I picked up on him being a quack when he was getting basic Relativity wrong and introducing elements into it that have nothing to do with the time dilation aspect of it as evidence.
I really appreciate y’all’s commitment to the facts. It’s wild how rare that is to come by but it’s why lore lodge is my favorite channel!
53:33 when Ashton Forbes feelings are hurt in live chat lol
"He's 20 years older than us so maybe he doesn't understand". I'm not quite 20 years older, but quite a bit older than you, and I looked at the video and was like "my kid could make that". Dude is just crazy
I'm 48 and I don't even know how these videos were taken seriously enough to warrant this much discussion. They're not even good fakes.
Volume is WAY BETTER than previous streams. Great job guys!
Yeah it definitely is! Plus... It started on time!!! A+
I definitely view the MH370 event differently after Oceangate. I appreciate all the time and effort you have put into this topic, great work Aidens!
care to tell why?
I will continue using Genesis 6 as a pickup line. God willing, it will help me find the woman I am meant to be with, and is meant to be with me.
Based.
That's a good way of finding other people that don't have a clue.
@@RaiderCBR6.5😵🫠 Now I have to find out what it is!
@@RaiderCBR6.5great comment
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My honest advice to you guys would be to de list the stream with Ashton. He said it the best himself, “he’s living rent free”. He really just wants to use as many platforms as he can to get attention with zero respect for the hosts. The great community you guys have built doesn’t deserve that kind of bullshit. And just as importantly neither do you guys.
oh shoot, lil bro Ashton started crying in the chat and stormed off 🤣 c'mon fellas, you know his back hurts from moving that goalpost around 🤷🏽♀
3:10 for when the audio starts
My entire knowledge of Philly and Pennsylvania in general is "Its always sunny in Philly" and Amish people. Your discussion of the birds confirms my internal stereotypes.
I live in Jersey, and I have to tell you… they’re worse than the stereotypes. They pelt Santa with snowballs, cheer when players get career ending injuries, etc.
I’m actually friends with some Eagles fans, but I just pretend they’re not.
The Amish make the best beef jerky though, so you should definitely try some of that.
@@Thor-OrionAs a Pennsylvanian, just please let it be known that the vast majority of the states' inhabitants are great people, especially in the area some out-of-staters mockingly call "Pennsyltucky" (the Appalachia region and even Lancaster and the Poconos).
Philly unfortunately has become an outright parasite on the state, and that's coming from someone who lives just outside of that cesspool. I will never not be disappointed and annoyed that Philly has turned into this.
@@SockieTheSockPuppet I’m actually mostly just messing around, I love Pennsylvania, although your pizza leaves a lot to be desired, that’s not your fault and you make up for it with your cheesesteaks! Take care, buddy.
Oh and I know about Philly. All the cities with Soros DA’s are now irredeemable shit holes.
@@Thor-Orion 👍
@@Thor-Orioncome to pittsburgh, we're the better pennsylvania city and we have great pizza. 👍🏻
The main problem I have with the Lithium fire theory is that the fire wouldn't immediately cause all connections with the plane to be severed. In the case of UPS flight 6 where a lithium battery fire resulted in that plane's crash, the crew had contact with ATC and other planes the entire time up until the last few moments before the plane crashed. Should check it out.
You'll be happy to learn that a youTuber channel by the name of "Dom Burgess" uploaded a recreation of the MH370 video about 15 hours ago.
I have no connection to his channel, but I did watch it and it's well done.
I’m so glad to have found your channel. Great videos! Thanks so much and looking forward to many more.
"Peggy, that's the recipe for mustard gas!"
Aidan, you're being way too charitable with Ashton after that interaction. You did absolutely nothing wrong and the way he handled himself was absolutely pathetic, the fact he's a grown man makes it so much worse. He's not only discredited himself with that exchange, he's discredited his whole theory.
He’s got big “Redditor interacting with the real world” energy
I am only listening to this after the fact and definitely curious what he said 👀
Yah can someone post screen shots. Or just post text I mean. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing.
Will go in order of things said by Ashton
49:27 1st: "Wow I'm living rent free in people's heads"
50:00 2nd: "If you didn't talk smack about me, maybe you wouldn't be blocked?"
51:31 3rd: "why are you guys so mad? lmao"
52:41 4th: "When you want to admit you're wrong, investigation will be here"
Lore Lodge doesn't respond to the last one
There may be more before or after, but I didn't stare at chat waiting for it
Yeah but how many pixels can you replicate what's the percentage?😂😂😂😂
What if Ashton is actually the one who made the videos and he’s just trolling everybody😂
He wouldn't be so mad if it was a troll lol
One could only hope
I want to say it was SomeOrdinaryGamer that had a video regarding the portal. Apparently it matches a video game effect from several years ago. The similarity is near identical.
EDIT: aaaaand you mentioned it LOL.
…lol
when ashton started commenting… 🕳️ 🏃♀️
I can't find his comment what was it???
@@carsonwilkins2971 it was in the live chat basically he was saying they were “talking smack” and that’s the reason he blocked them
Did Aidan M ever post it like he said he would?
@@carsonwilkins2971It's about 50 minutes into the video in chat. Long story short, he's being a salty ɓ!+çh because Aiden & Co. don't believe his hype.
I think a good term for what yall are trying to say in the 27 minute mark is "correlation does not equal causation". That being said, I was an imagery analyst in the Army some 11 years ago, and speaking only in regard to unclassified space based assets, I never saw video recorded from a space based asset like that. Like you guys said, those satellites are moving unbelievably fast, so the angle shift of a real time video would be drastically visible. To get video like that looks to me like it could be another flight based asset. Just my opinion and analysis.
My husband has watched drones do their thing in real time. He's got a very high clearance, so he couldn't give me details, but he was like "yeah that's not real"
Isn't the theory with the satellites though that there is a multi satellite network gathering sensor overlapping sensor data of the entire earth which is then fed into software and rendered into video when you observe a specific location? I'm sure it would correct for the satellite's orbit so that specific sites can be under constant surveillance.
@williamfillion if that were the case, even under constant surveillance the speed at which the satellites travel in orbit would show in a video as the asset rotated to stay fixed on a specific target. With overlapping satellites as you suggest, there would be that roll, on top of the shift between assets. For a good example, one can look at the videos of the Earth taken from the ISS, that is a good example showing just how fast things move in orbit.
@@codycorolla7151 good point, I still imagine that they could correct for the movement, if they know how fast the satellite is moving and the angle it's looking at, and if another satellite had overlap from a different perspective maybe the data could be combined and corrected for? I am very much talking out of my ass here though so you may be 100% correct haha
Matching stock footage has to be the smoking gun that it's not authentic.
I have no agenda other than I care about the truth. I'd love to hear the arguement as to how it can be real if the portal itself lines up almost exact with stock footage.
I can't imagine a sane argument.
neither
They matched stock footage, AND the background still frame has been found as well. And Ashton proceeded to claim there's some kind of conspiracy between the photographer, the hosting page, and some redditor that found it. He thinks they took the image from the video and uploaded it to the repository. Even though the repository page predates the video but isn't on the "way back machine" because it wasn't cached before the page was relaunched in a date after the video upload, so Ashton thinks it was added after the fact. The repository version is also higher resolution and much larger, containing things that aren't in the video, so he's really desperate now.
@@dwatts64 Ashton has moved on to promoting free energy devices for $50,000. I wish I was making a joke but it's actually true. Some people have no awareness outside of their own thoughts, ideas, and selfish needs. The guy doesn't care at all about anything other than what's in it for him. If I truly believed that 3 orbs opened up a portal in the space-time continuum big enough for an airplane, I wouldn't stop my investigation until I proved it. But hey, that's just me. It does reveal a lot about his character to go from one delusional idea to another scientific fantasy.. He's either deliberately exploiting people on the fringes or he's a sociopath. The educational system has failed a lot of people. Imagine spending a minimum of 12 years in school and you come out incapable of rational thinking.
@@giosasso also my first commitment was more directed at kingpotato up there, because it sounded like he thinks Ashton is on to something with all of this.
"someone created mustard gas in the bathroom"
"DO WE SUSPECT FOUL PLAY"
I maintain that Mattis is underestimating the possible speed of the Boeing 777, but he's on point with basically everything else.
According to the interwebs, several sites list max speed at 683 mph. But that would likely be under ideal conditions, flying straight, favorable winds, etc
Just the fact that Ashton started being rude tells me that he faked everything.
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When does anything having to do with the title start? 😕
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thank u for the time stamps that religious bs at the start confused me af lol
Have you read The Disappearance Act? It's a book about MH370 by a French journalist who researched the case. She came to the conclusion that it was shot down by the US due to the cargo that was onboard. She also gave a talk about her book at the Hong Kong Foreign Correspondent's Club, which can be found on TH-cam.
I looked into it. I just don’t think her evidence is sound. Way too many assumptions.
if the US wanted something gone, the B777 had plenty of known issues that couldve easily been exacerbated to encourage failure
"She came to the conclusion that it was shot down by the US due to the cargo that was onboard. "
Okay. What cargo could possibly be worth murdering more than 200 citizens of a nuclear armed regional super power, with massive political and economic influence around the globe?
The Lindbergh baby died, which is why the person found guilty of the abduction was executed.
The Predator's range is a function of its fuel capacity. The ground control station can be (and often is) on the other side of the planet. They're linked via satellite. If you look at a pic of a pred, you'll see a big bulbs where the cockpit would be on an ordinary plane. Under that jump is a big, rotating satellite dish.
Aiden Mattis - "I'm the map."
Ladies and gentlemen, we found em.
In my brain, the map song from Dora the Explorer immediately started going in my head 🤣
Surprised that a grown man got mad because you said "yeah that video of the plane going into a wormhole is probably fake"
People give me weird looks nd think I'm crazy when I say I think the Wendigo is real, I don't harass them on Facebook when they disagree with me.
I've helped out with the archaeological dig at El Araj, Israel. We have so much information pointing to it being biblical Bethsaida, but the nearby site et-tell wants to be the correct site so bad there's a lot of funny explanations defending their site.
I wish Elon Musk would start funding digs or something, the number of arguments that seem to be to do with money or reputation more than facts is staggering
Im so disappointed in Ashtons stance.. i thought so much better of him..
I'm not overly shocked, much as I hate to say it. He's got passion but it got ahead of him. When he was om the podcast, towards the end people started pointing out flaws in that argument and he immediately got condescending towards the chat. Thesecond he, a guest, got rude towards others I knew this was coming and it sucks
@@Guarddog33I don't remember that, was that the third part?
@SockieTheSockPuppet I don't quite understand what you mean by third part? It was in the podcast last week when they had him on. He just took up a holier than thou attitude. I'd have to go back and rewatch it to remember exactly what happened, but I guarantee if you watch the podcast you'll catch it, it's towards the end
@@Guarddog33 Ah, I thought that there was a third stream before this one. I must be misremembering.
That face on the bottom right corner… If that was there on previous stream, I’ve just noticed it and got spooked…
Okay I wasn’t crazy
I just love you guys! ❤ you guys always help this Appalachian girl smile. God bless you both
Haha that’s the other thing I remember about this channel. The one dude doesn’t like to be interrupted by his buddy but interrupts his buddy all the time. Cracks me up
Your Occam's Razor theory about "lithium battery fire" however is impure, because the actual Occam's Razor for this would need to be "lithium battery fire AND the Malaysian government and all other parties involved to any capacity" all are assisting to cover it up for...reasons? So you see how weak that theory is when used within the proper way of applying Occam's Razor. Even the theory that Lithium Fire, plan lost comms, diverted into airspace and was accidentally shot down by authorities and then covered up has more merit under the Occam's Razor parameters of application.
However, any plan that crashes is incredibly hard to cover up due to the massive debris field unless it were to crash in the ocean hundreds of miles from any populated shoreline and that would not have happened if the plane came down in the timing of a lithium fire or being accidentally shot down.
I think you have done an excellent job of debunking Ashton Forbes and the videos. But you have not really done a very good job with your alternative theories and I think you should spend the time to debunk your own theories, playing devil's advocate before applying Occam's Razor to it with this certainty.
Correct. No evidence of fire. Behavior of aircraft not consistent with fire or mechanical issue, except by huge stretch of the imagination and dismissal of most of the hard evidence (Inmarsat, SIO debris). The most apparent cause is air piracy, with hardened cockpit doors, ends up pointing to the pilot. Not to mention the suspicious home sim data, which is one of many areas that this podcast series tried to be dismissive. Just me talking, but my guess FBI was not dismissive of the sim data when they discussed it secretly with Malaysia.
@@billtracy8774 Yeah, I really like these guy's but they have a definite anti-government bias which I believe has influenced their opinions on this case and some others.
Depends on point in flight, usually it’s a half way point if they still have maneuver capabilities. Also I would love to have you guys do a video regarding the schematics of the B777 and if a fire in the cargo hold would disrupt all comms wiring, the ACARS system and Transponder system. I believe in the lithium batt theory but these are the questions I have that I can’t answer and you guys are exponentially more capable in answering these with viable evidence. Thanks and love the channel 🤙
23:37 Thornbury with his hair like that would make a sick Medieval Times actor (if you guys have never been to a Medieval Times show I highly recommend, it's a blast)
2010 crash of UPS Flight 6 was a documented Li-ion crash.
Our kicker outscored your entire offense.
Im a fox mulder type, i want to believe. But even more than that, i want to know the truth. I wanted to believe that something incredible happened and it was caught on video and the government is being exposed for a cover up and they have access to this technology. But the truth, after seeing so many people convincingly debunk these two videos, is that we dont have any proof of the incredible. Aiden said he believes Ashton is genuine and wants to find the truth. Im more convinced Ashton's priority is on generating viewership over these made-up videos, rather than actually finding the truth about MH370
There's no way a guy that keeps trying to shout from the highest rooftops that he and only he is the one who cracked this and everyone else is lying isn't a clout chaser. I think they just wanted to keep it polite to the end but thebguy is clearly clout chasing.
@xKinjax and/or he just can't admit he got "got" with those videos and he wants to die on that hill instead of admitting he was wrong
@@JSwanKilowJ you could be right though it's pretty pathetic if that's the case considering his age. By coming on podcasts like this he's only finding bigger stages to look stupid on. But who knows maybe he has a humiliation fetish and enjoys the negative attention. You never know with people online these days.
@xKinjax I certainly don't mean to speak ill of him. But I definitely get the sense his priority is NOT on finding the truth, rather, convincing people that those videos are real
Mentioning graphene made me laugh.
Current company I'm with right now has transferred from a few different materials with weather working with, but that being a main one that they're now using is changed. A lot of the products in it stuff we've seen in learning about with it is insane
Helious flight 522 flew for hours after all the passengers where incapacitated from hypoxia. Might be a combo of multiple failurrs fire + hypoxica + over redundant systems to keep plane flying.
Have y'all considered looking into the dissapperence of Gretchin Fleming? It's an ongoing investigation but thought it would be something like the Gabby Petito case, just a thought.
Just found out Ashton went on Info Wars a few days ago ???
Like, why does anyone care what he says at this point ? XD
I'm really surprised that a conspiracy podcast didn't cover the biggest, most obvious conspiracy out of all of them. MH370 was flown to Diego Garcia! I'm also super surprised you guys didn't cover this considering that even in main stream news the flight simulator had a flight path to Diego Garcia. Huge red flags. Also people around the area of the Maldives and other ships reported seeing a large jet liner en route to direction of Diego Garcia. They stated that it was super rare to see a tiny cessna let alone a huge jet liner matching the description of the missing jet. Also just because there was "nobody super VIP" on there doesn't mean the government has not killed or abducted people who were far less important in the past. I'm sorry but you guys should really do a deep dive into this. There's plenty of sources and eye witness accounts.
Maybe my theory was discussed, I may watch later, but all of the "evidence" presented to the public indicates that the pilot intended to survive. This happened not too long after Sully showed that a plane could land on water safely, and who else checked the weather forecast west of Australia but me (it was dead calm). It was initially reported the plane climbed to 48k feet before the turn. The pilot killed everyone aboard, and then had several hours on auto-pilot to comb the cabin for cash, jewelry, and other valuables, and probably had access to the cargo hold as well. He landed on a dead-calm sea (away from shipping lanes), and was picked up by an accomplice in a fishing or sailboat and both are enjoying a new life in an exotic locale. How's that for a movie?
Ashton seems to be going after people in chat and not you two at least at first I’m re watching to see what he says and when but yeah he’s being a bit of a jerk from the first two things he said. (Edit) yeah he seems to just be an arrogant asshole shame you platformed him only for him to do that.
I dont know if you guts read these cimments @The Lore Lodge but if you want something wierd to look into how about looking at tge differences in the algorythm between chinese language TikTok and english language TikTok. For example supposedly Chinese language TikTok promotes pgysical fitness, education, hygiene etc while english language TikTok promotes Fat acceptence, Genderspecials, and new pronouns.
The simple fact that the plane deviated from its flight path clearly indicates an issue with the pilot. His personal life is not exactly what has been disclosed publicly. All of the hard evidence eliminates the battery theory, and it's unlikely the plane was hijacked without assistance from the pilot himself. Ashton's theory is very unlikely too. personally i believe he may be the originator of the vids he's showing and promoting. That kind of data is never "leaked" without serious consequences to the leaker. How ashtons vid came about is sketchy, to say the least. I do absolutely believe we have tech way beyond what is public, and that we do have the capabilities that ashton speaks about, BUT in order to buy into ashton's theory, you have to dismiss a lot of other hard evidence which suggests something different happened. and Ashton is very dismissive of other very relevant evidence because it doesn't fit into his theory. Immersat could have possibly fabricated data for a "cover up" and they have been known to do so in the past. Inmarsat is far from "trustworthy" however, I don't believe they faked any info, and if they did, it was not to "cover up" the orbs and wormhole taking the plane. Diego Garcia? Data indicated the plane didnt go around there, could that be what is covered up? The plane's flight path and the pilot's "holding pattern" is also very interesting. The PILOT is absolutely connected to whatever happened to that flight. Something is totally being hidden/covered up from the public, but what?
The primary issue with the pilot theory is motive. What could it be? It looks like something in the cargo could be possibly connected to the motive...but that's just a guess. He had other things in his life going on that havent been examined enough. The pilot's simulator data is VERY suspect and was dismissed and passed over, which I find interesting and troubling. The plane is most likely in the Ocean somewhere, and we may never find it. It's become clear that the search was being conducted in the wrong place. We will likely never really know what happened and why the pilot did this.
Ever notice that Google Maps are FLAT?
Should see how he acts on Koncrete podcast with Danny toward the mid/end, if anyone hasn't. It's pretty sad unfortunately.
Ball lightening is a fascinating concept on it's own it doesn't have to make a worm hole to cause a plane crash.
When you were talking of ufo hoaxes, i remembered the national news in 2020 talking about the ufo in Alaska... I looked at those articles like 🤣🤣 because the video in Alaska was shot at a Wawa.... there is no Wawa in Alaska.
Another WEIRD death is Kylee Rodni
Lindinburg Baby story is mentioned in the book AVATARS ✈️ I forget the author’s name..
There is nothing weird. There is video surveillance of her car literally going into the water.
@@cissyiniguez Yeah, most of the weird stuff was really just rumors and people saying random things.
I am not a believer in the lithium-ion battery theory. First of all, when did they ignite? It wouldn't take long for all those batteries to be flaming, and they burn so hot that in no time, that plane would have been burned in half. Secondly, based on where it was supposedly seen burning and falling into the ocean, it was well off course, meaning that it was taken off course prior to the batteries igniting. So why were they off course before the batteries ignited? Maybe this was a murder-suicide that was interrupted by the batteries igniting [?]. If the batteries ignited and the plane crashed, there would have been a massive debris field [there was not]. Thirdly, we get to the actual murder-suicide theory, which is what I believe. I believe it was a murder-suicide because Inmarsat was getting pings up to the point that the plane went down. The plane went down as it ran out of fuel, and that was determined by a lot of proven facts, such as the course on the senior pilot's home computer and the data from Inmarsat. Also, since there was very little debris, it can be assumed that the pilot did a controlled ditch into the ocean.
Hi...Packers and Rams fan here. Oh and all the New York Teams too.
About the drone. It could be that it was flying in the area doing someone unrelated and when there was an issue finding the plane they could have sent it on an intercept course. Not saying it was or was not really there just that it’s possible and would explain how it got there when it did.
I say someone say there is an mrballen episode. Does anyone know what episode it was?
We took it down because it was actually hurting us in the algorithm, I believe it’s still available on spotify
Oh okay thank you, I used to listen to him due to his good story telling, but I stopped listening to him when I discovered y'all.
How did you not bring up Helen Keller on PKA! You'd have all had a blast agreeing
I don't think it would be a fire. I feel like the pilots would have had longer to say something over the radio. Unless the batteries were stored exactly under those vital electronics then they should have gotten something out.
The loss of radio contact at the handoff is something I still have questions about. They should probably let ATC converse in their own language in emergency situations like that.
There is a clip from the satellite vid that shows the first orb rushing up to circle the plane - en route it passes through the tip of one of the clouds….and leaves a hole. Granted, this could be vfx as well. But really? It’s a minuscule detail. Does that dull the razor a bit?
I notice that’s only been brought up very recently. I’ve rewatched it so many times and never seen the hole.
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audio starts at 3:09 beware of the mattis jumpscare LMAO
Ashton ruined any credibility
Getting personal with anybody is always the wrong antidote. You will get nowhere fast.
Ashton in one of his interviews says that the plane was on a curve descending fast towards the Indian Ocean as seen in those two videos in an attempt at emergency landing and the plane could not be more than ten thousand feet from the ocean surface, yet he concludes by saying that the plane was forced by those orbs into a worm hole or some such abyss not properly defined by him. Would a worm hole be found within ten thousand feet from the ocean surface? Someone please explain..
The most likely scenario is the Pilot going rogue. The least likely is Orbs sucking the plane into a wormhole.
I’d like to give you some clarity about the bogus patent ownership issue. It’s even simpler than you describe. It’s US patent 8,671,381.PN that’s in question, and while there are 5 inventors listed on the patent, you can’t just divide the ownership by that number, because each contributed vastly different amounts to the patent. And because I’m this case, all 5 assigned 100% of their rights to the patent to Freescale-it’s listed on the front page as item 73. So no matter how many of them are alive, Freescale owns 100% of that patent. Source: I wrote a dozen-ish patent applications on the behalf of others, and am a named inventor on two of them, but have zero ownership of any.
WHEN does the video start??
I always fig it was a battery fire but the one thing that bothered me about that was why was there no mayday or even a attempt at it i understand would of been a pretty quick fire but still
Fire on board? Um... I would think that you'd need a proper bomb-like explosion to disable onboard systems so suddenly. Once a fire is detected, certainly the crew would have had time to at least blurt out some sort of message before all systems failed. I'd like to see an analysis on how a battery fire could have caused such a catastrophic failure and brought down the aircraft.
No, as I noted under your other video, it was indeed a case of the captain deciding at some point to turn the plane around and head way off course into the Indian Ocean. However, I do deviate from others who think the intent was to do what it ultimately did, which is to continue on towards the space off the coast of Australia. What I firmly believe is that the idea was to land on either Christmas Island or Cocos Islands. However, the perpetrator passed out before he reached either. One panel of experts figured he veered towards Christmas Island but ran out of fuel short of his target.
What that doesn't answer is why there were no radio transmissions to alert the authorities on the relevant island.
If the lithium battery burned through water lines and someone used a bathroom, water spilled on open lithium fire, you have a boom.
But really bad maintenance in countries like Malaysia with fire under deck would be enough to scrap the plane 🤔🤷.
It depends on where the lithium batteries were in the cargo. If they were near any sort of critical electronics it likely means the fire would melt things before communication could get out.
Have you watched the new "evidence" regarding 1 of the Orbs punching a hole in the clouds?
Paid not to!
Where? I love this plasma stuff.
Nobody is paying us, for the last god damned time go look through the entire channel history and you’ll see precisely why we’re the way we are.
@@TheLoreLodge Stick to vampires!
@@joeredman569 either provide evidence for your claims or stop commenting.
Feeling personally attacked by the “extremist libertarian views” bit.
It’s us, we have the extremist libertarian views
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@@TheLoreLodgeprops to you for keeping politics mostly out of videos. I’ve watched a bunch of your edited videos and now just going through the podcasts, really haven’t caught on to anything political and really appreciate that in this political world we are surrounded by.
Of course I’m also libertarian so maybe I just don’t hear it lol
what bill about the night? He gets cut off and never finished his thought
" . . . so I looked over at one of my bouncer coworkers and said . . ."
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" . . . I recently joined forces with the Daily Wire . . ."
Interesting how the thought Police sticker is the first thing you see on here
Thank you for not tormenting with dead air. Love you guys otherwise
Ashton and Jeff wise are two top notch phonies presenting tv shows on mh370 with a great degree of panache. Their understanding of physics, science and engineering are zero and can be beaten only by their lack of common sense..
I'm not really into drones, helicopters and cameras, but if the frequency was correct wouldn't orbs be visible (apart from the vids looking like being fakes for me from the start), like helicopter's or drone's blades look like they move really slow or are not moving at all 🤔🤷?
This is what "peer review" looks like.
Or a paid cover-up! Nothing to see here, just like Bluebook.
@@joeredman569go back to drooling over fake videos if you don't like their content. Your guy unironically asked "why would anyone fake this?" like that's an argument when people fake everything from news to porn on the daily.
I know you probably loved Stargate SG-1 but remember that it's just a fictional TV show and there's no wormholes to other planets.
@@xKinjax Sorry, not into trading childish insults.
@@joeredman569 true. You're just posting unhinged comments calling anyone who doesn't see things your way paid opposition. You're so much better than us.
@@joeredman569your also not into putting forth a defense apparently or evidence or a rational explanation. And no stating the government can perform magic(no you cannot just remove mass from an object have it remain in one piece with the people still inside leaving no evidence behind no matter how much techno babble you want to throw) is not a defense
I am surprised you reject the Jeff Wise Theory out of hand. Based on the time period, global tensions, etc. I've always thought it was the most plausible. I only ever questioned how motivated Russia would have been, in the middle of a "war", to expend significant resource on an attack whose goals were not very clear except to prove "We can do this". I'm like "Sure you can. Once." Sending a top person on a suicide mission means, even if successful, it's not a continual capability. If the thought is the mission WAS successful and they were able to get the plane to the runway in Kahzikstan the main asset they used in the attack is a guy who basically gave up his life and family to pull it off. Interestingly, his family, when interviewed after the Wise Theory came out, would not admit they thought he was dead but expected to never hear from him again either way. I found many many compelling aspects to the Wise Theory.
I heard the plane did a quantum leap ✈
What is the maw millennial incident or however it's spelled?
I have so much gravitational pull that things can have weight on me. For example, the earth weighs about 150lbs on me.
It doesn't make sense to me that one MH370 video is real and one is not. What that would mean is that someone came across the the satellite/overhead video, and then randomly decided to create a fake video that somewhat matches it...? What purpose would that serve? Would that add credibility somehow to the other video? I just don't see the purpose.
Great ending to a great video😂😂
Where’s the fucking plane black boxes?
Have to find the plane first
Probably at the bottom of the ocean where the plane is.
I love these guys
I don't believe in any theory but why would America cover up a Malaysian mistake (battery theory )
There had been a few similar fires on cargo planes and no one took any regulatory action afterwards. It would have come out they knew this was possible. New regulations were quietly put in place a few months after.
I remember those regulations going in place very quickly afterwards and suspecting they may have been connected but hadn’t been paying much attention. It was also around that time when a few phones caught fire on planes and it was getting difficult to cover up.
I can completely see the US (and others) wanting to cover this up.
Working in the chemical industry there are very very strict chemical transportation limits and they change quietly and often. Some things that you wouldn’t think twice about are fine for commercial airlines in small amounts but we can’t ship them even in moderate quantities by air because of the dangers.
With the current state of EVanglism. I can easily see a thermal runaway event being covered up. If it was lion batteries that caused the flight to drop it would have killed the EV push in its tracks.
Today was a bad day for Pennsylvania the Eagles and the Steelers lost
3:09 it begins with sound.
MatPat, the face of the channel Game Theory, Food Theory, Film Theory, and Style Theory did a video on pizza from different areas of the US and concluded that it was because of the water. The video is on Food Theory.
Hey guys, the Hellen Keller comments arent cool. Im an ASL interpreter, i have the opportunity to work with deaf/blind people a lot. They're definitely real, out living their lives.
You sold me at graphene and lost me at emo. Lol
I like how you're going about this boys! Challenges. Hey ironically, isn't this the exact process for how Tartarian archeological buildings created? Didn't they just hold a competition and the best one wins they get to create a building? Lol.
Just cause I like triggering people 🤪
I love lore lodge