Two Go Mad in Stroud! MFS +
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.พ. 2024
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Join us as we open a box left languishing in the loft of a mostly derelict house.
@MarkFixesStuff and @RMCRetro uncover a very utilitarian #1980s #computer system as well as some other odditites! Big thanks to Arthur the Red for this donation!
LOOK OUT! Keep an eye out for a SNEAKY cameo by Mrs RMC! There may additional be hidden jollities in the video too! See you on the Discord! / discord
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Those reel to reel tapes... can anyone say TECHMOAN CROSSOVER???????
Thought that too
Yes please!
Thought the same!!!!
I think he might to be too busy for little old me!
@@MarkFixesStuffIt's not just you - it's you AND Neil.... that's enough to get his attention, no doubt about it.
Great seeing you together, feels like I've not seen Mark on RMC for aaaages (I'm probably wrong).
You're not wrong. I've been asking for Mark to appear on a RMC episode a couple of months ago myself on Neils channels comments
Thanks for your support. Just to let you know, the reason I’ve not been on much is just due to calendar conflicts with us both being so busy.
Plus we hate each other. Obviously.
@@MarkFixesStuff You two have got a Bromance going on :-)
@@kellerkind6169 it’s like a marriage.
And we’re getting divorced
Mark fixes stuff. So Neil must break it.
"Oh no! It's as if the kettle committed suicide rather than work for me." 😆
I use that line all the time in real life. Heavy man!
Heh, always worth trying the Onslow's way to turn TV on in Keeping Up Appearances :D
We both had a shock at the boot fail timing bro haha 😝
You two really enjoyed this video 😂 i like it too
Loads of fun to make and even fun to edit.
Loved the video and seeing you lark about 👏👏👏👏
Thanks!! It was a lot of fun😂
Great unboxing video Mark. Always enjoy seeing u and Neil working together , look forward to the next part
Glad you enjoyed it Will!!!
It was a great surprise seeing the two of you on camera together again. 🎉 Hope to see more collaborations in the future!
Thanks Zorko! We do have some more RMCMFS nonsense planned soon.
I have the PCW 8256, the single drive 256K version. in the 2000's I upgraded it to 512K and put in a second drive. Last year the monitor blew up and I couldn't fix it, so I took the main board out and mounted it in a storage box with an ATX PSU and composite output with a Gotek and a floppy. I also modified the keyboard with a joystick port and a modified SEGA joypad. It was a fun project.
Doing the work of the gods sir! What did you use the joypad for?
My dad had one of these in the 80s. But I hijacked it from his office aged 12 and set it up in my bedroom where it sat mostly unused but looking very cool indeed next to my CPC for at least a year. He eventually took it back when he realised it was gone and its eventual fate is lost to time, although I did keep many of the 3" disks with his clients' files on (and still have them for posterity).
Is this the bit where we find out your dad was working for a shadowy government organisation, and you are never heard of again after putting this in the comments?
A fun video. 14:23 “Thwarted by a printer” made me laugh, I can relate!
The eternal battle!
Thwarting people is basically the unwritten, unofficial job of any printer.
When the robot uprising comes, it will be led by printers.
@@TheTurnipKing 🤣
That Night Moves C64 box in the background! 😁
This pcw DOES need a disk to boot. The belts do melt, and don’t forget when taking the board off, that the write protect pins like to escape! Good luck!
They really do like to head for the hills don’t they! The belts are sooooo much fun to remove slowly and arduously. Hooray. Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment!
Great, The Cave needs some PCWs. Great computers with around 200 games available for them.
Where do I find these gaming treasures???
Really enjoyed this video, only been a subscriber for a short time after seeing you so much on RMC, you 2 guys work really well together.
Thank you Mick. I think the word “work” might be doing a bit of heavy lifting here but it’s a lot of LOLs filming with Neil.
Ah, Julie Garland....Judy's second cousin twice removed from Margate! Neil has some taste for sure.
I have no idea why I said Julie. Neil really likes it. That and Fronk Sonata.
I loved this mates !always good to watch you Mark :D :D hope you are well !!
I do like it when you guest star on Neil's channel!
Wait… this is my channel!!! I’M SUPER IMPORTANT DAMIT!!! 😂
Brilliant!! Though acting abilities of both celebs is a bit rough round the edges !! Lol😂
great videos guys
Had a good chuckle at the VHS-C stuff, well done mate
Data protection done right!!
I hope you had lashings of ginger beer! 😁👍
Neil solved the Mystery of the Missing Scone Knife after this video.
Excellent video as usual chap. I have one of these with the gotek solution in it. Worth a do. That solid green screen is definatelt because it's waiting to boot from disc.
Really looking forward to getting this going now!
@@MarkFixesStuff there are some stonking titles for it. The version of Head Over Heals is excellent. I look forward to the next instalment.
You don't get anything on screen until a valid boot disc is inserted into drive A.
Was it called Start of day Disk? My memories of the machine from school was that you always booted with one disk and then put in the word processor or spreadsheet disk after it loaded into some sort of prompt.
@@roskelld Yes there was a Start Of Day Disc, but you can also boot with Locoscript or a custom boot disc. I made one that booted straight into BASIC so I could write and play games.
What were some of the games? I need to think of the next video!
@@MarkFixesStuff I wrote my own games in BASIC. Simple single screen collect em up's while avoiding stuff usin the joypad to move. I started writing a Pac-Man game but gave up as it ran too slow. LOL.
@@MarkFixesStuff I've heard there was a Batman game released, but I've never seen it.
An engineer’s tap I believe is the term!
Professional Slap is the preferred term here. But that would make Neil a professional slapper… ummmm 🤨
OMG! Printer cable! Packing material!! ...but anyway, that Judy Garland tape would be fine, unless it's been stored close to a magnetic source, like a speaker or a CRT monitor.
I remember these, or a variant, from high school. I used them in my GSCE Business Studies class. I did find one disk that had a bunch of games on them - just arcade ports like Pacman. I don't remember much about the operation apart from when it loads there's horizontal black bars that appear from the top to the bottom and something about pressing the space bar to access the disk(?).
Looks like a lot of Techmoan content in that box.
I love Techmoan
Techmoan's your man for the reel to reel tapes.
I have the same yellow and black screwdriver! I got it as part of a set from the Australian equivalent of a pound shop.
Fixed it! lol
The RMC effect
Surely it's only a massive magnet when powered up.
I’m fairly sure they have stored magnetic potential when off? At least for a bit? To be honest I’m not an expert on monitors and it was a throwaway comment but now I’m curious and you might well be spot on!!
@@MarkFixesStuffThere's no strong permanent magnets in a CRT, certainly none powerful enough to affect a magnetic tape from outside the case.
If you're interested in reading up on CRTs I recommend "MIT Radiation Laboratory Series - Cathode Ray Tube Displays".
I used a PCW8256 at school before they went to Microsoft Windows 3.0. We used Locoscript and also a couple of games like snake. I was a CP/M based system that boot straight from the floppy disc and it was a bulletproof machine. The printer is a positive bonus with it was also powered by the PCW. This was back in 1989/1992 era.
Ohhh! Great Info!!! Id love to play snake. 🐍
When we got PCWs at school, they didn’t come with plugs fitted (those were the days!), so one of the kids wrapped the bare ends around a lamp plug’s pins, and shoved it in the socket 😂
It’s the old school way!!
Love the RMC fixes stuff crossovers. Don't know much about PCWs but i do have a few reel to reel tape recorders.
Well I’m able to beat you then, because I don’t know much about either!!!
I just realised that if you squint, the keyboard resembles that of the Speccy +3. I wonder if they shared common keys, if not part of the case itself.
See Ben Rattigan’s comment above ☝️ I said they look like CPC keys. The +3 and CPC were both also Amstrad of course.
OMG this video is so funny 🤣
Thank you!!!!! 🙏
So much innuendo. 😁
Not from me!
I had a later version of this word processor around 1990, an Amstrad PCW9512. It took the same 3inch CF-2 disks but the monitor was a white screen rather than green. It came with 2 software disks the main word processing software and I think the other disk allowed it to load some version of BASIC. I also remember the daisy wheel printer was very noisy. When I was in college they also had some PCW9512s but they'd modified theirs to a 3.5inch floppy drive.
Ohh. I like the old white screens. I plan to fix these drives but then replace one with a FlashFloppy unit
Haircut 100!
Thanks Chris! I hope you have a Fantastic Day!
I love your humour mark. 😅
I love that you love it Jim!!!
MFS at the Cave is always RMC Gone Wild in my head.
RMC with no inhibitions.
EMI tape guide 1-60 in the original recordings of SGT Pepper
Great to see the PCW get some YT love :)
I didn’t think I’d be that interested in this machine but it’s really starting to appeal to me. Especially after learning that the system has some games available. As much as I love word processing it’s not a favourite hobby of mine!
@@MarkFixesStuff but there are spreadsheets too Mark... SPREADSHEETS! What more could you want ;)
(Even DTP with Fleetstreet Editor - a stalwart for my homework back in the day ;))
@@mattsword41 gawd. That program name hasn’t aged well!!
Yeah my dad in his love of the latest tech had one of these when he went back to Uni. Keyboard looks suspiciously like a cut down 6128.
It’s really true.
I was hoping for a box of fraggles ☹️
I was hoping for Frazzles!
We've got a mint one of these in the loft (well it was mint when it went in there). It was the wife's from when she used to do freelance secretarial work before we got married LOL
Mint??? I didn’t know they came in flavours!!??
@@MarkFixesStuff
How many pints did you guys have before filming this? This was hilarious towards the end. 😂
True story, I don’t actually drink anymore! Imagine if we had!!!
@@MarkFixesStuff I'm trying hard not to... 😂
“Messy”, Geir. The word is “messy”…
@@MarkFixesStuff Ohhh....I know what it was. It must have been the fumes from Neils latest restoration project. That arcade cabinet should have been disinfected. 😋
@@GeirSandstad that paint was intoxicating actually!
lol
you need a CPM/locoscript/game bootable disk in drive A. do not get anything but a green screen on turn on. 512K was misleading - most of that was just available for a RAM disk and not program space. this has a good high resolution screen i think. 90 columns wide.
Thank you. I’m really looking forward to trying it out properly :)
Don't have a PCW, but it is a CP/M machine, i suspect it will do nothing without a disk to boot from.
I suspect you suspect correct.
You used them at school ?
I used them on one of the IT courses I went on --- circa 1994-95.
Good plan. Open at Neil's just in case there's any incriminating grumble films in there.
Mustn’t grumble. Apparently.
Hope you change that plug to a current compliant one ( no insulation on the live and neutral pins). Green screen is normal until its either got a locoscript boot or cpm/plus disc in the top drive (drive A) . Had one as a kid when my step dad upgraded the works pc to a 486DX
Funny you should say that. I was thinking of a short video about old plugs, checking them and what is a compliance fail. Might not be sexy but it’s important. I’ve just bought a box of tough plugs.
Mr Handsome ❤
My new maleslot name.
Mail slot. Oops
The PCW as mutch as I remeber needed to be booted off a floopy or you just get a green screen.
Yeah. I looked it up after the video and you are right. It bodes well for the machine working ages the drives are fixed.
If those reel to reels play then I’ll eat my socks. Even if the tape isn’t too brittle or stuck together, the print through will be something horrible.
Can this be a new thing, blindfolded test of guess my computer from its smell?
It’s a tuna? A haddock…. ??? A night out in city centre? No… it’s a PCW
Blank green screen is normal for a PCW. It won't do anything without a disk to boot.
Thank you!!! Drive repair is the way to go next I think!
Brown fuse == 13A ? Surely it should be the pink/red ones which are 5A ? My memory is fuzzy since I haven't been in the UK in a while.
Pretty sure that they had a blank white screen until they boot and run code.
It had a black 5A fuse, red are 3A. At least you got the brown 13A right.
I find it difficult to discern the colours from each other unless they are all together
8256 has 1 drive and 8512 has 2 - the bottom is double density vs the top single density. The 8256 has a 1 single density drive
As others have said, solid green screen normal until it picks up a boot disc
Dont plug/unplug the printer with the machine on as it can fry the motherboard
Bloody hell! So much brilliant info! Thank you so much!
Hi Mark, whatever happened to the fire damaged Amiga 600 that you used the Ultrasonic cleaner on?
The computer itself works. I made some errors with the new 3d printed case so I need to find a way to fix my mess up 😧
It’s still in the list though
And never hit SHIFT EXTRA and EXIT at the same time unless you want to warm boot it (the equivalent of CTRL-ALT-DEL in dos)
Ohhh pro tip!! Thank you again!
I’m a respectable married man, but I ❤ Mark just a little bit.
… respectable?
You ended up in the wrong part of town, friend…
Thanks Rosstee!!
Oooh, Reel to reel tapes.
EDIT : I can transfer them to MP3 if you want. (I'm in the U.K.)
I prefer DCC. ;).
Might be a future video there then? I think maybe I’ll deal with the PCW first Franko. Thank you!
@@MarkFixesStuff Yeah, could be fun.
It's probs a reel to reel tape case
Haha the answer came with the next item LOL
@@microknigh7 darn it haha!😛
How do I get back those 22:10 of my life? :)
Ummm… don’t watch it again?
it doesnt boot like a new computer, it has to boot from a amstrad boot disk, i think its a locoscript disk, check on you tube
Thank you! I’ll get a boot disk!
where's mark's pony tail ?
Marks ponytail has gone on holiday with the gummies.
@@iangough3062 the gummies are roadying for Judas Priest right now actually. My pony tail is the support act.
How about a live duo fix it stream drinking game. Stream, fix stuff, attempt solutions, if solutions fail - take a shot goto 10
30 If $drinks>15 gosub 100
100* Print “You Died of Dysentery.”