Watch This Next: The BEST Hunter Build after the Stasis Nerfs: th-cam.com/video/G6se-If3X-Q/w-d-xo.html This hunter subclass is (imo) the best to pair with hand cannons especially if you snipe!
I actually do Have one interesting fact about Dragon's Shadow. When you Dodge with Dragon's Shadow, not only do you get all guns reloaded BUT besides the Mobility/Sprint boost, and Handling Boost but your Reload Speed gets heavily increased. It turns Eriana's Vow Reload Speed from tortoise speed to like almost a Drop Mag Max Reload Speed handcannon
I'm better with the scout rifle on my hunter but on the rare occasions when I do need to get a hand cannon out...well it's not really fair when combined correctly with the hunters mobility and triple jump, giving height and cover in seconds
As a console player, I've found there is kinda a lack of top tier controller players making content that talks about controller recoil management/hand cannon info. This video is greatly appreciated!
I play console controller and I find it easier then mouse and key. To me that’s what I got used to snap shots and using the best class for me sunbreakers and from learning those when him not drunk lol. the are very easy angles just knowing those make the game easier. And knowing how you need to deal damage closer means more but there is a sweet spot that’s for sure where using a hand cannon you can two shot and survive
Awesome video and breakdown. These tips are going to help a lot of players! I totally agree with the strengths of HCs in point 1. It’s the reason HCs will always be strong
Aaayyyy there he is! Pattycakes, did you already interview shadow and I somehow missed it? I dig this guy's perspective on D2 and would love to see you two make a video together
@@ShutchyerLips yeah I think so. I believe it was a sniping video? It’s how I found Shadow and I have not been disappointed :) Edit: on second thought it may have been an apathetic video I’ll double check!
what i’ve learned in the past and typically applies here as well is the person hiding behind cover to peek out has the advantage by being able to start the engagement on their timing. the person who isn’t doing it has the advantage of being able to position wherever, so when the person peeks they may not know where and could get the first shot. pretty good stuff to know
This helped tremendously! I've been massively guilty of panicking and rushing my shots all this time. It's like, in the back of my mind I knew that was the wrong approach but having it explained as concisely as you did here and having the visual along with it really helped me to actually put it into practice. I sat down yesterday and made an effort to put it into practice. I made the effort to take my time with my shots and not rush them or panic in engagements and I had some of the best rounds I've ever had. I threw my igneous on and had some of the most consistent rounds I've ever had! Great video man. Massive help!
Definitely the most crucially helpful tip for hand cannon users I can think of. I also agree that 120s are still king because of the reasons you mentioned despite the recent changes. I think Bungie have balanced them really well this time around and I really like how they've made 140s much more relevant again now too!
Yes yes yes!!!! As someone who is crossing the barrier of being a semi casual crucible player these are the tips I wish I knew. Tip three is something that took a lot of observation from me when watching good players while in their streams, but TAKE THE TIME! Calm down, breath, and take the shot. It’s the same for shotgunning (reloading, distance, etc.). Boy, I get annoyed when really good PVP players give advice but it just sounds like “get gud” to the casual player. Thanks for sharing, definitely sharing to friends who want to get better!
A good thing to mention with the unconventional angle part is the importance that audio takes, you can easily hear someone jumping when they try to do that
That is true especially in a 1v1 situation. But in the chaos of an actual match, that sound can easily be covered up by all the other things going on. Plus, even if you hear a jump, you don’t know which side they’re going to come out on, or exactly how high they will be, so it still gives a big advantage
Thank you SO MUCH for making ths video. I've played Destiny since season of the Forge and I've never been able to use a hand cannnon effectively in PvP. The difference in my PvP gameplay before and after watching this video is a large as the time before and after I learned how to use the radar.
I agree 100% peek shooting will always keep HC strong regardless of the meta, so long as they don’t bring ghost bullets back from D1 😰 haha - great video Shadow!
Haha thanks man! Thankfully I wasn't good enough to really get annoyed by D1 ghost bullets lol but they don't sound very fun. Making HCs "randomly" miss might be one of the only changes they could make to *truly* make HCs bad.
I'm a returning player so I'm here, lol. I remember mastering Hand Cannons to get Thorn... such a nostalgic time. It was also the time I finally got Recluse after so much grinding. Very helpful video, Shadow, thank you!
Thank you, this is really helpful and insightful, especially the segment about shot pacing, I’ve always found it hard to explain this to newer players, but you nailed it perfectly. I’ll be sharing this video with my clan
I suck at PvP in general, and HC use has always been horrible for me. Thanks for the tips. I’ll try them out and see if it can improve my overall play.
One way I've found to help improve you aim is to go into a private mayhem match as a deadfall nightstalker, and shoot a tether at a random spot. Then, use that as a target
I just recently found your channel, and I love it! I was just starting to get back into D2 PvP and your tips videos helped me get back to the skill level that I was once at, especially in trials. Keep making content!
using a 120 is the fastest way to get good at hand cannons as it forces you to play more conservative. This is how I got good with hand cannons and a large reason why igneous hammer is now my favorite hand cannon and 120s in general are my favorite weapon type. I went from gold 2 to adept 1 after just a month of consistent practice in scrims and trials Playing against players better then me and the loads of different playstyles made my confidence and ability to defend myself in those “the game is on the line” scenarios more comfortably and I come out on top a lot more often Great guide Love from Sweden
Watched this video during lunch break yesterday and can say that it helped exponentially with the engagements and learning to pace my shots regardless and it helps a whole bunch, thank you!
I started using cover more and was able to get a few three shots. I've never gotten a three shot kill before, so I just want to thank you for helping. Good job on the video.
Thanks for the video Shadow. Recoil control is the bit that I struggle with. I also don't play cover as well as I should, in part, because I like pulse rifles.
It wouldve been nice finding this video much earlier. It took me months before i got the hang on how to play with hand cannons. I appreciate this video though.
Getting back into destiny, played from d2 launch to about after the forges, then slowly petered out and just jumped on from time to time, have seen similar vids but really liked this one. Really informative and definitely want to try out some of your tips.
which is the best 140 handcannon available to a new player? I’ve been thinking of farming to purchase the “not forgotten” but I’m not sure if it’s worth it
Thanks! I have to start learning to pace my shots. I use Malfeasance and I spam my trigger because I use the 5 slug shot explosion perk as a crutch. So instead of relying on my head shot I aim at the body. Waste of bullets and kill time just to get a kill. I will work on this sometime this week after reset
He revealed the biggest tip within the first 40 seconds. 5 years of play and tens of thousands of kills. Always important to remember that tips are useless without practicing the game and reinforcing those good habits consistently.
What always amazes me is these clips of snipers who know exactly where opponents are going to appear. I mean I understand why I get sniped because I go charging into firing lanes and down hallways without thinking. But these clips...
Yep, great tips for those that have a 9 to 5 job and can't play hours on end. That peak shooting really works. That's a reason why there are so many 100 mobility hunters.
watched this after about an hour and i noticed i wouldnt keep the constant pressure on my right thumbstick, i would wait for the crosshair to adjust itself and would lose gunfights constantly, i made the adjustments and i just dropped a 33 kill hc game, cheers Shadow
honestly one of the toughest things for me is learning my mouse and keyboard sensitivity being a controller user for over 20 years did that, only been on PC for about 2 years and can still struggle with it from time to time
Luvd this video. Anyone who gets that many 'we ran...' medals and consistently lands headshots is worth getting tips from even if you're no longer a kinderguardian. Thanks Shadow :)
@@ShadowDestiny ya its extremely helpful since i only started playing d2 about 2 months ago, learned a lot in your video:) keep up the good work:) subbed
@@ShadowDestiny oh also if you want to do some more pvp video for newbies like myself, i can suggest one topic. As a new player, we get panic easily, someone shoot at us first, someone running at u with a shotty, when you see the radar is all red but cant find the guy, etc. If you can make a video about how to react to some certain situation correctly, that should be really helpful too
thank you, I am glad you like it! I try to make almost alll of my videos in a way so they can still be applicable years down the road. Thanks for watching :)
I gotta say i watched one of your videos on how to improve you K/D and it has helped me so much! Thank you. I have always hated hand cannons and now just yesterday I has having fun playing with one! Keep up the video they are awesome :D
I really have lately been investigating what I do best with in terms of handcannons For the longest time I was a huge thorn user for the longest time, then I used the igneous hammer and smacked with it Nowadays my aim is lacking overall even when I've felt I "warmed" up enough so now I am lost a little on what to do next
Hopefully this should help, the mouse and keyboard nerf ruined handcannons for me altogether, especially 120s due to the recoil pretty much making you backflip with each shot
I do like my explosive payload especially on night watch, but for true prophecy I’d recommend timed payload. While you deal more flinch per shot with explosive, the time between shots is enough for someone to quickly correct and dome you with an opening shot sniper. Timed payload gives you more flinch opportunities, and catches most people off guard. Your ttk could be slower if you miss a headshot, but if they can’t hit their shots it’s not going to matter too much
Great vid shadow I’m actually applying these to my daily gameplay and it came in handy. I know you said a good mix of range and stability but I was curious on your opinion as a controller player, my true prophecy has explosive payload opening shot and a choice of steady rounds or accurized; steady puts it at 57 range 58 stability, accurized 71 range 44 stability, given the perks would it be worth going steady just to have better recoil on controller? Or should I practice my own control to make accurized work? Sorry if it’s a long question
In most cases the cure is practice, but it's insanely hard to practice effectively against high level players. It just makes it take longer. If you have the opportunity to consistently practice with people at your skill level, you will see improvement much faster. Also, to continue improving, you have to increase the skill of your opponents as your skill increases or you'll just plateau.
@@ShutchyerLips I ask because I have at least 1,500 final blows on hand cannons (tracked by weapon master works) and still find people who are faster and more accurate with them than myself in at least 90% of the quick play matches i’m in. I favor Steady Hand & Hawkmoon but have recently taken up Ace. The moment I go back to pulse rifles, I perform better. Its very discouraging.
@@notsure5111 I know what you mean about feeling more capable with a pulse. They are much easier to use. And offer a lower entry level skill bar to be used effectively. However, handcannons, even when “outclassed” by higher Ttk weapons (pulses/autos,) have a higher skill ceiling. And therefore will always have the potential to beat them if used appropriately. I found that putting the time into them and really getting good with hand cannons made me a better pulse player. Once you’re forced to start peek shooting and always hitting headshots with a 140, it makes you a better player all around and you notice the changes when you go back to other weapons. I’m on Pc if you ever wanna hop into a private match and practice. 👍🏼
@@notsure5111 yeah, I hear you on the pulse rifle thing. I used a lot of pulses when I first started because of what Daniel King is saying. They offer a lot of damage over a good distance because of their grouping, range, and pacing. Unfortunately even if you peak shoot with a pulse, the amount of time you have to stay exposed to get the whole burst out works against you. Handcannons are great because they're the most versatile weapon in the game. Imo if you want to use a 140 in this meta, you have to be really good already since the ttk relies on crits and never missing. 120's are much more forgiving, as you get 20 more damage per shot at a farther range than 140's. I could talk all day about what good weapon balancing would look like, but I'm happier and more sane when I just focus on what we have to work with lol. Steady hand can be good if you get the right roll, but imo there are much better options. My favorites right now are my true prophecy with overflow/rampage, and my igneous hammer with outlaw/rampage. Notice how both guns have reload perks and damage perks that don't rely on the reload? That's the weakness of 120's, the reload delay. If you can bypass that, it's a much stronger weapon that's capable of lasting damage output for more duels, which increases survivability. The other side of that is what weapons you use most effectively in situations when you're not using your primary. The answer to that shows your current play style. If you're unsure of what weapons are most effective or most fun for you, then you just need more practice with all of them. I'm also always down for private matches for practice/teaching/learning/fun. I'm on PC in NA. Let me know if you ever want to practice together.
Watch This Next: The BEST Hunter Build after the Stasis Nerfs: th-cam.com/video/G6se-If3X-Q/w-d-xo.html
This hunter subclass is (imo) the best to pair with hand cannons especially if you snipe!
I actually do Have one interesting fact about Dragon's Shadow. When you Dodge with Dragon's Shadow, not only do you get all guns reloaded BUT besides the Mobility/Sprint boost, and Handling Boost but your Reload Speed gets heavily increased. It turns Eriana's Vow Reload Speed from tortoise speed to like almost a Drop Mag Max Reload Speed handcannon
1 or 2 unflinching mods
@@RAPIXDREG 2 is always gonna be better than 1, but I recommend using 1 and prioritizing other mods on the chest piece
Thank you for making this video
I'm better with the scout rifle on my hunter but on the rare occasions when I do need to get a hand cannon out...well it's not really fair when combined correctly with the hunters mobility and triple jump, giving height and cover in seconds
It's really cool you don't cut your deaths. Helps understand the game flow and consequences easier.
Simply listen to big iron while you play. You’ll get there in no time
bro i love that song
Big iron on his hiiiiiiiip.
I confirm this.
Especially with TLW
How to hand Canon 101: go to the town of auafrida, be an Arizona ranger, get a big iron, and kill Texas red
As a console player, I've found there is kinda a lack of top tier controller players making content that talks about controller recoil management/hand cannon info. This video is greatly appreciated!
I play console controller and I find it easier then mouse and key. To me that’s what I got used to snap shots and using the best class for me sunbreakers and from learning those when him not drunk lol. the are very easy angles just knowing those make the game easier. And knowing how you need to deal damage closer means more but there is a sweet spot that’s for sure where using a hand cannon you can two shot and survive
Awesome video and breakdown. These tips are going to help a lot of players! I totally agree with the strengths of HCs in point 1. It’s the reason HCs will always be strong
Thanks man!
Aaayyyy there he is! Pattycakes, did you already interview shadow and I somehow missed it? I dig this guy's perspective on D2 and would love to see you two make a video together
@@ShutchyerLips yeah I think so. I believe it was a sniping video? It’s how I found Shadow and I have not been disappointed :)
Edit: on second thought it may have been an apathetic video I’ll double check!
@@tytonidaeowl8872 I love the appathetic video. I guess I'll have to go review Patty's library lol
@@ShutchyerLips it’s a patty sniper vid W shadow, defo recommend it
what i’ve learned in the past and typically applies here as well is the person hiding behind cover to peek out has the advantage by being able to start the engagement on their timing. the person who isn’t doing it has the advantage of being able to position wherever, so when the person peeks they may not know where and could get the first shot. pretty good stuff to know
Absolutely
This helped tremendously! I've been massively guilty of panicking and rushing my shots all this time. It's like, in the back of my mind I knew that was the wrong approach but having it explained as concisely as you did here and having the visual along with it really helped me to actually put it into practice. I sat down yesterday and made an effort to put it into practice. I made the effort to take my time with my shots and not rush them or panic in engagements and I had some of the best rounds I've ever had. I threw my igneous on and had some of the most consistent rounds I've ever had! Great video man. Massive help!
That’s amazing to hear!
Definitely the most crucially helpful tip for hand cannon users I can think of. I also agree that 120s are still king because of the reasons you mentioned despite the recent changes. I think Bungie have balanced them really well this time around and I really like how they've made 140s much more relevant again now too!
As a console player who is trying to snipe and hand cannon your videos are a god send. Thank you sir
Thanks!!!
@@ShadowDestiny glad I found your channel. Not enough well known console destiny TH-camrs are out there
2:10 : This is why hand cannons will always be on top no matter what nerfs bungie throws at them.
Bungie: We'll see about that... *malicious laughter
I think it’ll be pretty good always
New 120 nerf just announced
@@bradydunn1539 what if they nerf the range to 2 meters hmm?
@@epicturtle9638 dumbest shit I heard all day 💀
what if they make them flip over and shoot yourself?
8:27 I just gotta point this out: your aim is so awesome you can snap it away and back again so fast it is amazing!
it is impressive aim I agree
Nothing is good about playing 70 for and 5 sens
@@sssecuris if your good at it then it doesn't matter
@@XYZ-ql1fi just sad that people look up to some one that has zero movement and relies on aim assist to hit shots
@@sssecuris welp thats the popular view on controller players, guess we cant do the flashy 360's, top tree dawnblade things
Yes yes yes!!!! As someone who is crossing the barrier of being a semi casual crucible player these are the tips I wish I knew. Tip three is something that took a lot of observation from me when watching good players while in their streams, but TAKE THE TIME! Calm down, breath, and take the shot. It’s the same for shotgunning (reloading, distance, etc.).
Boy, I get annoyed when really good PVP players give advice but it just sounds like “get gud” to the casual player.
Thanks for sharing, definitely sharing to friends who want to get better!
Great in-depth talking points. Thank you.
A good thing to mention with the unconventional angle part is the importance that audio takes, you can easily hear someone jumping when they try to do that
That is true especially in a 1v1 situation. But in the chaos of an actual match, that sound can easily be covered up by all the other things going on. Plus, even if you hear a jump, you don’t know which side they’re going to come out on, or exactly how high they will be, so it still gives a big advantage
Thank you SO MUCH for making ths video. I've played Destiny since season of the Forge and I've never been able to use a hand cannnon effectively in PvP. The difference in my PvP gameplay before and after watching this video is a large as the time before and after I learned how to use the radar.
Haha that’s great to hear ❤️
I agree 100% peek shooting will always keep HC strong regardless of the meta, so long as they don’t bring ghost bullets back from D1 😰 haha - great video Shadow!
Haha thanks man! Thankfully I wasn't good enough to really get annoyed by D1 ghost bullets lol but they don't sound very fun. Making HCs "randomly" miss might be one of the only changes they could make to *truly* make HCs bad.
I'm a returning player so I'm here, lol. I remember mastering Hand Cannons to get Thorn... such a nostalgic time. It was also the time I finally got Recluse after so much grinding. Very helpful video, Shadow, thank you!
Welcome back guardian :) Thanks for watching
Thank you, this is really helpful and insightful, especially the segment about shot pacing, I’ve always found it hard to explain this to newer players, but you nailed it perfectly. I’ll be sharing this video with my clan
Awesome! Thank you for sharing it that helps a lot 🥰
This was so helpful, thanks!
Ay bro, great video man, appreciate the content. Heard you shout this outline stream last night and I was ecstatic, keep it up.
I suck at PvP in general, and HC use has always been horrible for me. Thanks for the tips. I’ll try them out and see if it can improve my overall play.
One way I've found to help improve you aim is to go into a private mayhem match as a deadfall nightstalker, and shoot a tether at a random spot. Then, use that as a target
More video like this. Im trying to get better cuz I sucks with HC.
I just recently found your channel, and I love it! I was just starting to get back into D2 PvP and your tips videos helped me get back to the skill level that I was once at, especially in trials. Keep making content!
using a 120 is the fastest way to get good at hand cannons as it forces you to play more conservative. This is how I got good with hand cannons and a large reason why igneous hammer is now my favorite hand cannon and 120s in general are my favorite weapon type.
I went from gold 2 to adept 1 after just a month of consistent practice in scrims and trials
Playing against players better then me and the loads of different playstyles made my confidence and ability to defend myself in those “the game is on the line” scenarios more comfortably and I come out on top a lot more often
Great guide
Love from Sweden
I am terrible with Hand canons... This is an AWESOME video!! So many things I never even thought about after all of these years playing the game
Thanks so much! Hand cannons can be tough to use at times, but 100% worth the effort of learning! Glad you liked the video
Recently realized I was spam firing, so I've been working on pacing to fantastic results. All great tips, but that one hits home!
Same!
Where have you been my whole destiny career!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!
just been here making the best videos I can :)
19.8k already, damn dude you’re so close to 20k already congrats
Watched this video during lunch break yesterday and can say that it helped exponentially with the engagements and learning to pace my shots regardless and it helps a whole bunch, thank you!
Great to hear!
Two words. Lucky pants.
Been trying to work on my hand cannon game so I decided to rewatch this vid. Such a great tutorial, needed a refresher!
Not gonna lie, this is the first video of your that I've seen. Helps a lot so you've earned my sub
Thanks! Most of my viewers are new to my channel so I appreciate the sub :)
This guy is probably the best dude ever and the one to rely on
I started using cover more and was able to get a few three shots. I've never gotten a three shot kill before, so I just want to thank you for helping. Good job on the video.
Thanks and congrats on the 3 taps 😤😤
Nice video , really good advices , realized many of my mistakes , you got a new sub ^^
Thanks for watching 🥰
after i watched this video i got better with my HCS thank you very much
Thank YOU for watching 😎
Thanks for the video Shadow. Recoil control is the bit that I struggle with. I also don't play cover as well as I should, in part, because I like pulse rifles.
It wouldve been nice finding this video much earlier. It took me months before i got the hang on how to play with hand cannons. I appreciate this video though.
Getting back into destiny, played from d2 launch to about after the forges, then slowly petered out and just jumped on from time to time, have seen similar vids but really liked this one. Really informative and definitely want to try out some of your tips.
Thanks!
which is the best 140 handcannon available to a new player? I’ve been thinking of farming to purchase the “not forgotten” but I’m not sure if it’s worth it
Love your videos man you’ve become my favourite destiny you-tuber
Solid video man, I’ve used hand cannons religiously and have a strong foundation with them but it’s always important to revisit the fundamentals!
2 years later and this is all still relevant!!! Wild.
You know what else is wild… we are still playing the same pvp maps 🤣🤣🤣
I design all of my videos very intentionally to have a long shelf life. Thanks for watching.
I picked up the lumina and I’m going to master it
Thanks! I have to start learning to pace my shots. I use Malfeasance and I spam my trigger because I use the 5 slug shot explosion perk as a crutch. So instead of relying on my head shot I aim at the body. Waste of bullets and kill time just to get a kill. I will work on this sometime this week after reset
He revealed the biggest tip within the first 40 seconds. 5 years of play and tens of thousands of kills. Always important to remember that tips are useless without practicing the game and reinforcing those good habits consistently.
A video that talks about cover a bunch!? I'm in!!
Cover is so OP haha
What always amazes me is these clips of snipers who know exactly where opponents are going to appear. I mean I understand why I get sniped because I go charging into firing lanes and down hallways without thinking. But these clips...
these tips will raise my kd so high that theres no way for shaxx to not notice me
FACTS
Great video; awesome information and your voice is relaxing.
congrats on 20k bro
Great video dude! Even as someone who uses handcannons a lot I learned something! Thanks for the shoutout as well :)
Awesome 😎 Thanks for sending some footage it was perfect for what I was trying to demonstrate
Yep, great tips for those that have a 9 to 5 job and can't play hours on end. That peak shooting really works. That's a reason why there are so many 100 mobility hunters.
Another incredibly helpful detailed video. Thank you, Shadow.
watched this after about an hour and i noticed i wouldnt keep the constant pressure on my right thumbstick, i would wait for the crosshair to adjust itself and would lose gunfights constantly, i made the adjustments and i just dropped a 33 kill hc game, cheers Shadow
Can we just look at the intro right quick
This guy doesn't miss an single headshot..
Good video btw keep up the good work 😊
Thanks 😅
Great video! Learned some new things and was pleasently surprised to know I've been doing a few things correct intuitively. GGs Guardian
Awesome!
#1 has been my problem that i've been consciously correcting lately. i would just peak out and ego aim duel everyone lol
For real lol. I'll 3 tap someone, and then just immediately jump into a 4v1 riding that handcannon high. 🤣
Congrats on 20k. 🥳. I remember when you had 1.5k. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the continued support!
I’ve never watched more satisfying gameplay
;) I try to have interesting gameplay even if it’s just in the background
i have been looking for a video like this thx sm
A quick tip also: Rumble is your best coach and friend because it's all on you to get your kills on your own so you're kinda forced to get better
pacing shots is something i’m working on this season and i’m consistently getting 3 taps now
That’s awesome 😎
Great video man, before watching this all I thought about was point and shoot
A year later and still helpful! This New light thanks you!
Great to hear! I try to make all of my vids so that they are relevant forever, so I'm glad it helped :D
Honeslty i feel like your the best advice giver when it comes to hand canons ever
Well thank you very much haha 😅
slick edit at 9:50
;) Thanks
Great video :)) as always.
I'm so exited using loud lullaby and adored this days. Try to keep in mind your tips from now.
I’m definitely gonna use these methods with Drang
Exactly what i was looking for
Every time I lose my HC mojo because I had fun in PVE or tried out DMT or Pulses, I come back to this. Always.
I played this dude last week 😅and I can safely say that…. Yes, he really is that good
Awesome work again man! Hope your channel explodes.
Much love
honestly one of the toughest things for me is learning my mouse and keyboard sensitivity being a controller user for over 20 years did that, only been on PC for about 2 years and can still struggle with it from time to time
Luvd this video. Anyone who gets that many 'we ran...' medals and consistently lands headshots is worth getting tips from even if you're no longer a kinderguardian. Thanks Shadow :)
thank YOU :)
3:01 warlock did a spin like crazy😂
great video, this is exactly what im looking for. I think i need to pace my shot and aim better to win more 1vs1 gun fights.
I love when my videos are exactly what people look for :D
@@ShadowDestiny ya its extremely helpful since i only started playing d2 about 2 months ago, learned a lot in your video:) keep up the good work:) subbed
@@ShadowDestiny oh also if you want to do some more pvp video for newbies like myself, i can suggest one topic. As a new player, we get panic easily, someone shoot at us first, someone running at u with a shotty, when you see the radar is all red but cant find the guy, etc. If you can make a video about how to react to some certain situation correctly, that should be really helpful too
i like the survivor's epitaph despite being a 180, it just feels really good to me
This is a older video …but it’s still really good ! And still applies to present the destiny . Thanks shadow
thank you, I am glad you like it! I try to make almost alll of my videos in a way so they can still be applicable years down the road. Thanks for watching :)
Thanks a ton man. This reignited my flame to use Sturm once again
I love Sturm
@@ShadowDestiny Bro! That's what I'm saying! :D
Ik this was posted a while ago and I just watched it yesterday but this video literally changed my aim in day thank you so much
massive W. Congrats!
I gotta say i watched one of your videos on how to improve you K/D and it has helped me so much! Thank you. I have always hated hand cannons and now just yesterday I has having fun playing with one! Keep up the video they are awesome :D
Thanks! My next video might be a part 2 on how to improve your kd. Sound interesting?
@@ShadowDestiny It does sound interesting! I'm always down to improve my k/d and game style! I'll be on the watch for it (:
I really have lately been investigating what I do best with in terms of handcannons
For the longest time I was a huge thorn user for the longest time, then I used the igneous hammer and smacked with it
Nowadays my aim is lacking overall even when I've felt I "warmed" up enough so now I am lost a little on what to do next
Got a pvp god roll for fatebringer and I got back into hand cannons a bit before since ace finally feels good again
Awesome video so glad for finally getting some tips for controller 🙌😀
Really clear content!!! Thank you for the work!!!
Hopefully this should help, the mouse and keyboard nerf ruined handcannons for me altogether, especially 120s due to the recoil pretty much making you backflip with each shot
Thanks for this 👍
thanks for watching 👍 👍
Really good tips in this video shadow ! Thanks a lot, I will start training this on my pvp games ! 😁😁
these seem so obvious but i was watching the whole time like, "holy shit, this is groundbreaking info too me" xD
I do like my explosive payload especially on night watch, but for true prophecy I’d recommend timed payload. While you deal more flinch per shot with explosive, the time between shots is enough for someone to quickly correct and dome you with an opening shot sniper. Timed payload gives you more flinch opportunities, and catches most people off guard. Your ttk could be slower if you miss a headshot, but if they can’t hit their shots it’s not going to matter too much
Interesting yeah I think that’s gotta be a decent option
140 Handcannons are what I struggle with the most. It's unreal how hard they are.
Great vid shadow I’m actually applying these to my daily gameplay and it came in handy. I know you said a good mix of range and stability but I was curious on your opinion as a controller player, my true prophecy has explosive payload opening shot and a choice of steady rounds or accurized; steady puts it at 57 range 58 stability, accurized 71 range 44 stability, given the perks would it be worth going steady just to have better recoil on controller? Or should I practice my own control to make accurized work? Sorry if it’s a long question
I still pull out my Duke MK44 from the vault whenever I want to play crucible, gonna use these tips next time
How do you fix a lack of coordination and slow reflexes? The only work around I know is to play against opponents with similar physical capabilities.
In most cases the cure is practice, but it's insanely hard to practice effectively against high level players. It just makes it take longer. If you have the opportunity to consistently practice with people at your skill level, you will see improvement much faster. Also, to continue improving, you have to increase the skill of your opponents as your skill increases or you'll just plateau.
@@ShutchyerLips I ask because I have at least 1,500 final blows on hand cannons (tracked by weapon master works) and still find people who are faster and more accurate with them than myself in at least 90% of the quick play matches i’m in. I favor Steady Hand & Hawkmoon but have recently taken up Ace.
The moment I go back to pulse rifles, I perform better. Its very discouraging.
@@ShutchyerLips thank you for that answer. I guess I need to LFG private matches.
@@notsure5111 I know what you mean about feeling more capable with a pulse. They are much easier to use. And offer a lower entry level skill bar to be used effectively. However, handcannons, even when “outclassed” by higher Ttk weapons (pulses/autos,) have a higher skill ceiling. And therefore will always have the potential to beat them if used appropriately.
I found that putting the time into them and really getting good with hand cannons made me a better pulse player. Once you’re forced to start peek shooting and always hitting headshots with a 140, it makes you a better player all around and you notice the changes when you go back to other weapons.
I’m on Pc if you ever wanna hop into a private match and practice. 👍🏼
@@notsure5111 yeah, I hear you on the pulse rifle thing. I used a lot of pulses when I first started because of what Daniel King is saying. They offer a lot of damage over a good distance because of their grouping, range, and pacing. Unfortunately even if you peak shoot with a pulse, the amount of time you have to stay exposed to get the whole burst out works against you.
Handcannons are great because they're the most versatile weapon in the game. Imo if you want to use a 140 in this meta, you have to be really good already since the ttk relies on crits and never missing. 120's are much more forgiving, as you get 20 more damage per shot at a farther range than 140's. I could talk all day about what good weapon balancing would look like, but I'm happier and more sane when I just focus on what we have to work with lol.
Steady hand can be good if you get the right roll, but imo there are much better options. My favorites right now are my true prophecy with overflow/rampage, and my igneous hammer with outlaw/rampage. Notice how both guns have reload perks and damage perks that don't rely on the reload? That's the weakness of 120's, the reload delay. If you can bypass that, it's a much stronger weapon that's capable of lasting damage output for more duels, which increases survivability.
The other side of that is what weapons you use most effectively in situations when you're not using your primary. The answer to that shows your current play style. If you're unsure of what weapons are most effective or most fun for you, then you just need more practice with all of them.
I'm also always down for private matches for practice/teaching/learning/fun. I'm on PC in NA. Let me know if you ever want to practice together.
Thanks for the great info and break down, I suck at pvp but still grind it out anyways.
i recently came back to d2 and just the other day i was wondering if pacing shots was worth doing with 120s. so thanks for answering that :D
100%!
Very insightful video… thanks!
Awesome content man, really enjoy your videos,keep them coming
This really was a well done video, appreciate the insight.
The Fatebringer feels really strong now.
Opening Shot & Explosive Payload is my favorite roll.
Facts 😤