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Reacting to Billboard's Questionable list of the 50 "greatest" rappers of all time.
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No DOOM on the list is wild, considering some names that made it
THANK YOU, THATS WHAT IM SAYIN
yeah what the hell, no villain? please someone make it make sense
I'm saying dawg
Utterly Disrespectful
To be honest nowadays, I'm not even surprised that Doom didn't even come up is sad asf
Fiq stalling out in pure disbelief as he's met with the image of J. Cole staring right at him with a completely blank expression is pure gold
jermaine cole jumpscare
once heard someone call 50’s album ‘get rich and stop trying’ and i feel that’s a good summation of his career
I'm pretty sure that was a Todd in the Shadows line from his 'Worst Hit Songs of 2011' video.
@@williamd2989 i wasnt sure if it was him or rap critic thanks!
🤣💀
That’s funny. But the massacre is a great album. Maybe even better than get rich
@@williamd2989😭 Todd is a menace sometimes
Comparing Lauryn’s greatness as a rapper and Dre’s greatness as a rapper is too much for me. She might not have the discography, but her impact on the art of rapping was huge.
I think she's a better rapper than Dr. Dre too
Totally agree wild take! Lauren despite her short catalogue is one of if not THE BEST female rapper I’ve ever heard
dre is a better producer than rapper
Lauryn sure but Dre is far far more influential beyond his rapping, his rapping career really to me isn’t enough for me to call him one of the greatest rappers of all time, even though he’s absolutely one of the most influential figures in hip hop ever.
@@mike04574 ay Dre, stick to producing
I didn’t like the fact Andre made the list but Big Boy didn’t. People wanna act like Andre made all of Outcast music himself.
The overall unclearness of how they separate individual artist and groups just confuses me and seems unfair
That's why it's bad when one member of a group outshines the other
@@esconyc0101 thing is big boy doesn't get outshined he just didn't have the sound most people got into
I think it's due to their separate album, The love Below had more favorable critics, "Hey Ya" is the first time a rap really sing during a whole song and it worked very well and also he clearly inspire Frank Ocean's Blonde, ASAP Rocky's Testing and Tyler, the Creator's Igor
(which are all acclaimed album).
But outside of that I would have put Big Boy right behind Andre 3000
@@paquinraino8180 I agree whole heartedly
Big Boi* but yeah, you’re right. I put him on par with Andre if I’m being honest.
It's tough for me, because I have to remember these "greatest" of all time lists are going to stick to the mainstream. Because I'm always going through these things like "Where's DOOM? Where's Billy Woods? Where's Aesop Rock? Where's Jean Grey? Blu? Rapsody?" Because many of the BEST rappers of all time (at the skill of rapping) aren't the "Greatest" in terms of public influence and notable impact.
I get irritated with "Greatest Of All Time" lists because the criterion of what constitutes "the goat" is always vague. And then when you dig in, there's so many different, sometimes conflicting criteria to consider.
Plus, don't forget, this IS a *Billboard* list, they ain't doing no real cultural deep dive.
@righteouslioncomedian1069 Totally. Even well-defined criteria are are usually qualitative rather than quantitative, anyway. So arranging them in a ranked list carries a certain degree of arbitrariness no matter how objective it tries to be.
But it's almost always a fun conversation starter, for sure!
@@QuintessentialQs
Lol. Yeah, sometimes I forgot that the arbitrariness is supposed to be fun. 😆
It’s like basketball debates. Before I get into this I hope we understand the separation between greatness and most talented
Not only was Big Daddy Kane the Jay-Z of his era he introduced the world to Jay-Z....
Tell me why they a year apart
@@zflw64 Because Jay Z released his debut Albun almost a decade after Kane released his debut album
FD showing Ja Rule love is the most controversial music take and that shows you he'll stand his ground on anything.
I took an ex to a Ja Rule concert in the past and real talk Ja Rule got jams. Jams on jams on jams. And I went to the concert just to hate on that garbage ass rapper. But he knew how to make songs. I still wouldn't put him over 50 tho.
It’s ok if you like his music (personally not a big fan) but don’t go to any festivals he promotes.
How? Ppl don’t realize Ja was that dude how many rappers did songs with Jlo off too just Ja and Fab who is also underrated when it comes to catalog. If u really want controversy I’d say Ja catalog is better than at least 80% of rappers today
@@londobellacethat’s why Ja was good lol. He made songs for the ladies so haters like us can bump it and kinda have to take them to his concert to please them lol. Sorryyy
This statement feels like gaslighting 101. It's fd's ability not to "stand his ground" that let's him speak the truth about 50 not being anywhere near a top 50 list. His takes are fluid, and he explains many times that not only will he go back and relisten to discography to reconsider his opinion but suggests everyone to do the same and revisit old songs that don't always stand the test of time. Great work F.D.
Stillmatic youre misremembering. Its an absolute classic. The Intro, Ether, You're Da Man, Rewind, One Mic, What Goes Around, 2nd Childhood...the whole album is insane
I feel like we too often devalue what people like Lauryn, Andre, etc. have given us by focusing on what they haven’t
I don't know what Billboard is basing the list on and I refuse to go check. People in the culture know that when it comes to the art and skill of rhyming, L-Boogie and 3000 are top tier
S tier!
This list is for casuals… folks that have a few hip hop presets in the car
@@kernalbert4939 I checked: "From there, the teams took into account the following criteria, not in any particular order: body of work/achievements (charted singles/albums, gold/platinum certifications), cultural impact/influence (how the artist’s work fostered the genre’s evolution), longevity (years at the mic), lyrics (storytelling skills) and flow (vocal prowess)."
True but I don't think thats a bad thing. especially when theyre still with us unlike others who have only been able to give us a few before passing. "what have you done for us lately" is relevant
@@hjblacdes61 Thats a fair point. Lauryn and Andre have a special case imo because in all time discussions I feel like their work in the Fugees and Outkast get devalued because their lack of solo albums. Which isn’t fair to me because I love the other members but they were obviously the main attraction. Plus, artists like Kanye West have whole teams making tracks for him but since it’s just his name on the cover he gets all the credit for it in these kind of discussions (and I think Kanye is top 3 so i’m not just hating).
A LOT of great infulential rappers were left of the list. DOOM, Raekwon, GZA, Big L, southern rappers in general, etc.
Lupe wasn't on the list. Throw the whole shit away.
Somehow I knew he wouldn’t be, and was upset waiting on it.
In terms of impact he definitely had that but was in the shadow of guys like Kanye, drakes, your other fair share of backpack dudes who blew. Maybe top 100 tho
Facts. F&L and The Cool are 2 of the greatest rap albums ever.
Lupe is cringe and corny
@jodyprestigiacomojr8901 LL is completely cringe and corny yet HE still made it on the list. Hell, many of the rappers listed here are "cringe and corny" to some degree imo but they still got on. Being "cringe and corny" is entirely subjective and not a good indicator of who's more worthy to be on this list based on that alone.
25 years later and we’re still talking about is it Nas or is it Jay
It's jay.. easy
@@dpowell468 SMH. Lmao
“Black on Both Sides glued a backpack to me for 2 years”
This is me when TPAB dropped when I was in HS/college lmfao
Word The Blacker The Berry used to be my alarm tone. Literally used to wake up on that time lol
@@DJMhero black on both sides has been in my rotation for 25 years and will be in it for another 25 and then some.
Most of 50's legacy is just beefing with other rappers and the fact that he was shot a bunch of times. I think you are absolutely right about him.
No he is not he’s deluded 50 cent has the greatest run in rap history nobody was bigger than 50 cent from 2003-2005 and his impact and influence is unmatched the hate is really forced
@@tjmirez7556Biggest run in rap history? Absolutely not. Off the top of my head Kanye and Kendrick come to mind immediately
@@joaquinmcgee990150 had back to back diamond albums and put out 4 platinum albums from his label in between those two diamonds... You're trippin
@@Mech-cp8nrand let’s not forget he had a damn movie based on his life in that time as well
@@autonomouspilgrimage6137 yes and the soundtrack to that movie also went platinum. Whoever is saying his run wasn't incredible is on fent
It feels like people have gotten terminology mixed, like people will talk about a rappers lyricism and what they actually mean is wordplay. Being able to rhyme shit or make an interesting pun doesn't make you a lyricist. in order to be a good lyricist youve actually got to be saying something. thats what makes the spiritual miricale people so funny, they're obsessed with the idea of people being better lyricists but basially none of them are saying anything at all, they're the opposite of lyrical, somehow far less eloquent and coherent than the "mumble rappers" they contrast themselves with
Lyricism in Hip-Hop IS Wordplay. This is why we herald “battle style” rappers, the cypher and “freestyling” as part of the art. The mastery of simlie, metaphor, satire, hyperbole, and many other literary devices are what makes a rapper lyrical hence the choke hold Biggie had had on the game forever. Very few stand up to him “lyrically” and this almost always is in relation to technique. Same thing from Rakim to now guys like Lil Wayne.
Hip-hop in terms of a genre is MOSTLY spoken in the 2nd person unlike most other genres and is very limited in dimension. Rappers are always talking about some phantom “you” (2nd person) and typically that “you” is other rappers or other “gangsters” in the street. If we limited lyricism to being able to be eloquent on a wide range of topics there would be almost no genre whatsoever.
Think of some of the greatest rappers and now eliminate the 2nd person/wordplay based content, there’s almost nothing left for MOST rappers after that. So no wordplay is absolutely core to lyricism in the hip-hop genre and it’s the observation of this in its meager attempts most times these days, is the only reason why some of these new artists even get any recognition whatsoever.
YES YES. A POINT TO BE CONSIDERED, HONESTLY
Just like in real life, using big words don't make you smart
Lyricism is word play AND content AND prose AND a bunch of other factors. They all contribute to the quality of the LYRICS.
No mf doom on the list is so fucking crazy
Gucci mane impression is one of the funniest things I've ever seen😂
I nearly choked on my salad 💀
I nearly swallowed a chicken bone laughing.
I shot juice out my nose 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣...i cackled.
Spot on! Gucci is pure trash but he has fans somehow
The problem with these lists is the criteria by which the rappers are rated.
What is their placement on these lists based on?
Flow?
Lyrics?
Commercial success?
Longevity?
Impact?
Discography?
Name recognition?
For example, it's difficult to imagine any top 50 list of rappers in which both Gucci Mane and Eminem both belong wherever they may be placed.
So, any list of rappers NEEDS to have sensible and clearly defined criteria that determines the placement of the people on it.
Exactly!
Correct. I think they don’t make it clear do folks can argue lol
I feel like Eminem is always gonna belong at #5 based on any set of criteria. He’s too good of a lyricist and song writer to not be top 5 based on his best work, but not consistently serious, or even trying to do his best work, which is why so many people think he’s completely wack. Super divisive discography with the lowest lows and the highest highs for me. I appreciated FD just kinda saying “yeah that’s fine” with his placement.
The Cole take shattered me completely but Nas at #1 really helped 😭
Nas at 1 healed that scar 🙌🏽
I mean to be fair Cole doeshave some really corny shit that make you question why he even decided to release. But he is definitely a top 25
@@JoseSanyet I won’t say healed, more like cleaned it up and up a bandaid but that shit hurt 😭
@@33up24 as has every single artist (besides the plants) , I can’t imagine not having Cole in top 10 but to each their own 👐🏽
@@33up24 if we bein real ..almost every rapper has put out some.corny shit that they should have kept to them selves
How are you gonna include two Wu-Tang members and neither of them are Raekwon or GZA?
Ironman is better than Raekwon any day
Ja Rule should be on the list just for his reaction to 9/11. We needed him so badly on that day and he delivered. RIP legend
Where is Ja?!
Rip?
RIP?!? 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
RIP
THANK YOU ON LUDACHRIS! I'm always telling / reminding people just how many hits luda has had over such a long period of time
Well mostly my wife when she said she hadn't heard any ludachris songs while watching fast and furious and I'm like "yes you definitely have"
@@LegendShark It's Ludacris. There's no H.
1 more time because f*ck the algorithm... No MF Doom, lupe, Immortal Technique = not a valid list. Blasphemy points for having both KRS-ONE and Black Thought so low.
Immortal technique music aged like ass. There is a reason he was my fave when I was 14
Immortal was a homophobe and conspiracy theorist. Decent bars but largely the content was wack and cornt
Immortal tech 😂😂😂😂😂. Opinion disregarded
being in my late forties and an Indigenous person into Indigenous rap & hip hop (which we wouldn't have without these older generation Black rappers) I really enjoyed your takes
and Yasiin Bey with Tribe called Red was epic
maybe I'm too old but yeah, 50 Cent should not be there
Really? Also being in may late 40s I feel the opposite. Just one example: KRS is a stone cold legend and pioneer with so many classic albums, without him you don’t get half of the next generation of MC legends. To say he was too high on the list is INSANE.
This was cathartic, thank you. I would have loved to see Nipsey on this list, he was personally huge for me in the 2010s. It helps to remind myself this is all subjective, no one is an expert on music/art/etc even when they want to see themselves as such.
J. Cole being the Russell Westbrook of hip hop is hilariously accurate
Can someone please explain this to me😭😭😭😭😭😭. I'm a J Cole fan and an OKC fan - but I'm not a Westbrook fan although I respect his grind.
Is it the 'Platinum with no features' vs Triple-Double Season?🤔
@@lukhanyisobrukwe5980 like he fell off from being mvp, to Westbrick Slander :(
How???? J Cole still releases bangers especially with his features, russ falling off. Horrible comparison
FD I feel like we need your top albums / artists / etc lists... cuz it seems like you're always coming in with the taste
Also when missy said "Beep, beep, who got the keys to the Jeep? Vroom"
I felt that shit spiritually
Glad to see you having fun 😂 love your hip hop takes
only 8 mins in but im SO glad you said ludacris is top 20. everytime i go on 2010ish music binges i re-remember how many hits and features he had! so many verses i still remember. i love him sm
Guru not being anywhere on here was pretty egregious
2mello has good taste in youtubers, naturally
17:58 why does that picture of black thought remind me of jordan Peele 😂😂
Music being ranked like a competition is always messy, but I personally think if you're going to rank MCs, the best way to do it is by being specific about what you're ranking them on. An example would be to me, MC Ren is far and away the better lyricist between him and Cube. It's not a competition. But Cube is the better storyteller, and that makes his verses/songs/albums stick with you more. That's part of what made them such a great duo in NWA.
Cube got better delivery too and that does count for a lot more than people give it credit for imo.
I love listening to you talk about hip hop and rap, I would definitely watch if you did a list re-order and added whoever you think is missing.
glad this is back up🙏🏾
How did it get taking down, there was a lack of copyright material
TH-cam doesn't make ANY sense sometimes
@@signifiedbsides1129 you make great content. Sorry you are at the mercy of an inhuman idiot bit of code.
@@signifiedbsides1129nah, they too busy making dollars to worry about marking sense… when they demo you vids they still play ads and just keep the money
Saying Dr. Dre doesn’t deserve it Or T.I. but think Kanye is a top 3 rapper Kanye sucks my dude sorry I like college dropout and his beat are dope but as a rapper he ain’t all that and Has many people writing for him same way as Dre has.
Run-DMC as a group were the fast Rap SUPERSTARS, I can't be mad at one of them being on this list
Putting Dr. Dre on this list is crazy😂 I’m glad I wasn’t the only one.
Imagine if dj Khaled was on here
@@taxavation comparing dre to khaled is crazier 🤣
@taxavation8582 that would be a world I don't want to live in.
I’m not that big into hip hop yet as of now because I listen to many many different genres but from what I’ve heard from Kendrick so far I really liked untitled unmastered, not even for being super catchy or for the lyrics (I’m not a big lyrics guy idk) but just because you can really feel the artistry he puts into every aspect of the album and I value artistry over anything despite it being a hard metric to actually quantify and analyze music by. Just my two cents great fun video!
You can tell kendrick pours 100% of his heart and soul into every project he makes
You’re right about Luda, they don’t take my man seriously.
Gucci gotta stay, he do need to be lower.
The thing to me with Luda was his delivery. He never really had bars like that, but his delivery is 1 of the best. If u really listen to his rhymes tho, he almost always is rhyming 1 syllable words. Maybe 2 here and there. Just my opinion.
I feel like a Greatest Rappers list should prioritize artists who are great at rapping among other things, so spitters like RA The Rugged Man and Tech N9ne should definitely get some shine here, I know there are other intangible variables like legacy, repertoire, style, relevance, musicality, influence, etc. but lyrical miracle skillset is still the name of the game to me when you talk about "rap" (not just "hip hop", "artistry", "songwriting", "content", "culture", and "impact", but RAP = rhyming and flowing)
This B side is full of takes and I'm 100% here for it 🍿
Even if u don’t give Lauryn longevity, she is far more musically talented (rapping and singing) then TI or Dr. Dre. and she perfected a sound that ppl to this day have taken bits and pieces of (melodic rap)
Totes enjoyed this. I think more women should have had their day, when looking at the L's. Foxy Brown, Roxanne Shante, Jean F-ing Grae, 'where she at?' Mone in the middle, Salt, Peppa, Cardi B, Megan the Stallion.
💯
Monie Love's "It's a Shame" still hits
None of them is top 50..only missy, remi, lauryn, heather b, queen latifah, nicki belong in this list...
I quite enjoy Sammus
@@afrosamourai400 I'd argue I'll Na Na puts Foxy in the top 50 alone, same goes for Roxanne's revenge
This list is a roller coaster. On one hand it does have some good shit on it, as well as putting some rappers that aren't exactly popular specially now, but on the other hand it both have artist that only are there because of popularity/commercial success and missed soooooo many legends. No DOOM, no Lupe, that's fucking insane.
Your Gucci Mane Impression killed me.
You're right about the albums, but 50's approach to mixtapes changed everything. "Guess Who's Back" and "50 cent is the Future" are classics.
Right? I'm saying!!!
I know this brother only listened to radio 50 😅
Not Top 30 worthy still
The Massacre too 😂
Well, It is Bilboard's list, and they don't care about mixtapes. So, whether his mixtapes were classic or not, it doesn't change anything in their eyes.
If you listen to fif’s early work before he took one n the face, he actually could flow flow
Dead ass lupe had more classic albums than some of the folks on this list.
And popularized the nerd backpack type of rapper at his time so much Kanye had to copy him.
Pusha T being higher than Common and Mos Def is just crazy to me but that is classic recency bias
Nas is definitely no. 1. 30 years in and STILL releasing great albums. His 6 album run in 3 years is CRAZY!!
I hate lists like this
"What's egregious is this *sounds of pain*" BAHAHAHAHAHA
33:27 💀
totally right about 50. Been waiting for someone to say it
It would be interesting to see a video about eminem's role in and contribution to hiphop, and how different it was for a white rapper to come up back then vs now.
I feel like so much nuance is lost in that conversation because of the stereotype that his white fans/imitators (and to an extent, himself) created
It was wild to see so many cringey chuds saying eminem sold out to the woke crowd when he went against trump, because you'd think that songs like 'White America' completely went over these mega stans heads. They never cared about his content, they just wanted him to be their self-insert into black culture
Yeah he is what many of the white rappers today aren’t, a product of growing up white in a culturally black school, with all black friends, and immersed in hip hop culture. Why would you expect him to not hold those beliefs.
@MechAdv1022 Also just being broke as shit in an age where white was largely synonymous with mediocre success.
Overhead Media did a video about that
@@thebigcapitalism9826would you be able to provide a link? I tried a quick search and wasn't able to locate one.
@@iGotBulletproof-Insomnia oh shit my bad I meant OverTHROW Media
Anyway here’s the link: th-cam.com/video/iC1XfSPqb9o/w-d-xo.html
This video alone is pulling me back into rap.
That Andre slander though. He is top five at least just based off of the content and method by which he strings together words.
Agreed. The nerve.
How is he overrated because of his features AND he has the greatest discography of all time? Especially when his features are great?
Andre is not overrated because we barely hear about him, if anything he's underrated
I don't think Dre has penned a single 3 verse song in his career.
I "Liked" as soon as you gave your take on Luda.
THANK YOU! So undervalued in 2024.
Hol' up though bro... How you talked about Luda, you could also talk about TI. (and I don't like T.I. as much) but I've recently gone back and LISTENED to TI's discog. It's crazy bro lol
Top Back
Bring Em Out
Go Get It
Swagger Like Us
Rubber Band Man
What Up What's Happening
And so on and so forth.
Plus, his influence on Mixtapes which is a HUGE portion of the culture of hip-hop. That's one of our main avenues for discovering and blowing up artists. It was so big that it shifted the mainstream industry and TI was a part of it's popularization and instillation with Drama.
He had just as many hits (if not more to be honest) than Luda did, and if you honestly sit down and listen, he was SPITTIN the whole time!
From the perspective of someone who is only a casual listener of rap: all the people you called out as being too high on the list (or on the list at all when they shouldn't be) are people I've heard of.
Many of the people you said should be higher on the list are people I've either never heard of, or barely so. Those I have heard of, I liked their music.
So clearly this list is more about widespread appeal and market value than it is about talent. Which kind of make sense, given what Billboard is.
But I've put all those artists you mentioned favorably on my list of artists to check out.
Thats what the problem with lists like these is. How do you quantify success? Drake barely even writes his own stuff, but is a more influential and successful rapper than about 80% of this list. 50 cent was very 1 note, but that one note made him one of the biggest rappers of the 2000's. You can be a massively talented artist, but if you are only known by purists, how can you be argued as the "greater" rapper?
when fiq said, "Ja Rule belongs on this list before 50 Cent" I stood up, paced in a circle and screamed "someone said it"
Drake being on this list at all, especially in the top 20, makes the entire list completely invalid.
Fucking seconded.
Remember when Drake did a freestyle with a mobile phone lol?
Nah 6 God is deserving. If he dies he's a legend.
Agreed
He's a singer that raps a bit, same for Lauryn Hill. Neither should be on the list
I'd love to see FD's version of this list with his own requirements. Please do something like that.
I wanted to see DJ Quik, Bone Thugs, Eazy-E and DOOM on the list 😫
(SORRY GUYS I FIXED IT LOL)
damn no bone thugs? wtf
MF not being on the list is a crime
NO MF DOOM????? UNSERIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TOP 10... TOP 5!!!!
Bro this whole list disqualified af xD; QUIK, Bone, and DOOM missing? Trash
Everyone wanted MF Doom
Im late to the FD party, and have been binging for days now, and this is the first video of his that has me wanting to scream at my phone for most of it.
i wish you were on dehh’s video when they talked about this. would’ve been some furniture moving.
'50s catalog can go against anybody's his mixtapes every single one of them delivered
As well as his first two albums being classic. The first g unit album being a classic and some hits off of his later ones too
Facts
I'm disappointed B Real of Cypress Hill is not on this list
Don't forget prodigy from M.O.B deep
@@thatguy464 Disrespectful
I think a lot of people think that Kanye should not be in top ten is because he’s not the greatest rapper and does not write all his stuff, some people probably view him like Dr Dre amazing musician but not necessarily the greatest rapper of all time
Kanyes rapping isnt amazing in terms of flows word play etc. but hes an amazing lyricist and producer. Also is amazing ar concepts
Kurtis Blow made one of the greatest Christmas songs of all time!! CHRISTMAS WRAPPIN!!!
We need to know who's responsible for this hot mess of a list 😆😭😭
would love to see your top 50 (great vid btw)
Well already know his top 3
I think 50 deserves to be on there. I’ve been noticing this trend of hip hop history revisionists trying to label 50 as a one hit wonder with GRODT and that’s just not true. When you look at the whole scope of that G-Unit era…the mixtapes that got him a name before Get Rich (the mixtapes that caught Eminem’s ear, mind you), the fact that he essentially revolutionized the mixtape game, the success of Lloyd Banks, Young Buck, and Game’s solo projects (not to say he did all the work but you can’t deny his influence was there), and all the absolute heat that came out of that G-Unit camp for like 5 years consistently, man.
Why was this deleted? I love FD’s hip hop content
demonitized for some random reason
@@signifiedbsides1129 I thought I was having Deja Vu cause I didn't get to watch the video yet. But I KNEW I saw the upload 🤧🤧🤣
It was Drake 🤣🤣🤣
@@vikkidc3859lmfao
You basically gotta watch fd drops as soon as you get a notification, otherwise there’s a good chance it’s taken down.
No hate fd, get that money bro, it’s pitiful how they cut you like that but no surprise
These lists are always hard because some of the greats were taken away in their prime (Pac, Big L, Biggie, Pun). I have to assume that's why L isn't on the list.
Glad to see this re-uploaded, I had it in watch later and missed it
When 50 came up and the music cut out I nearly spit my drink out lmao
Missy not being on the list makes it automatically invalid. But saying LAUURRRYYYNNN HIILLLL doesn’t belong on the list is *BLASPHEMY* 😭
edit: ok she’s on the list nvm 😅
Saying Kim does and Lauryn doesn't? Rappers, Lauryn wrote the rhymes we love by her, we can't say that for Kim. Crazy. As purely a rapper Missy is not very good, and should not be on the list. If it were hip hop artists, sure.
You ever heard of Ice T's audiobook he read for? It's hillarious because... you can tell he's very confused about everything since it's a very specific D&D book series and has names and stuff that are WEIRD so... but I respect how he tried.
I just love this video for music rec.
I agree with most of the takes on this except for saying notorious BIG’s albums don’t hold up well (if we’re talking ready to die and life after death), especially considering the fact that without Big there wouldn’t be a Jay Z.
It's crazy to say his albums don't hold up.
I was watching an old video from this channel from probably 5+ months back and someone asked FD to make a video on the wu tang clan I hope he does it 😭❤️
We all hope he will..
Can you please do your own top 50 list I am so interested. Or even a top 50 albums list. Please
Gen-Xer here, and love Run-DMC. Don't really listen to much hip-hop made after the mid-90s. Dre is a great writer, not necessarily a great rapper. Also, Chuck D should be higher, fite me.
Shoulda been more founders on the list. Maybe not Kurtis Blow; but Grandmaster Flash, come on, and possibly Caz. Fukkin' Rakim needs to be top 10, fully agreed.
No Vaseline puts Cube there for me, but you're right about what he has become.
Kanye's newer stuff brings him down.
Watching this made me want to see a remake of DefJam, so that you could do a play thru to whoop some ass in that game for catharsis
I’m bumping Ready to Die on the regular brother. Biggie’s lyrics may not be the deepest but his word play is up there with the greats. He does get a little too much praise sometimes but he’s gotta crack the top five at least.
Love that you favourite Untitled Unmastered! It's an uncommon take which I unabashedly agree with
Wayne is the father of Mumble Rap - double cup drug induced dread locks
Ready 2 Die is a Top 10 Hip Hop Album and Life After Death is the best Rap Double Album, Biggie is definitely Top 5 he ain't overrated 😆
Tripping with that Method take.
Loved this video and your takes. Only take/response that confused me is method man. He deserves to be held in high regard imo
Yeah to think ghost face deserves high rank but not method makes little sense
Gza deserves a spot in my opinion too!
To call biggie overrated, when so many rappers have copied his lyrics and his cadence, is wild af.
Who copied his cadence?
@@angelshadowofficial9218guerrilla black lol even Nas said he thought biggie had a new album
I agree with your 50 take but I feel the same way about Jay-Z. he's got a better body of work than 50 for sure but without his money and empire, Jay-Z wouldn't be the icon he is. he's closer to #10 for me
This is straight up wrong, Jay has one of the best discographies
Imo Jay isnt better than Pac, Nas, Kendrick, or Kanye. He'll id put Em and Biggie over Jay z.
On a personal level, I agree about Jay Z. He is probably the biggest rapper that never really clicked with me that much. I do like Reasonable Doubt but I struggle to enjoy much else. On the other hand, I have no problem putting him top 3 in an all time list because it's not just about me and what I like.
Mr Morale is up there with TPAB. Shame people don’t see it yet. It’ll take time to digest, just like all K Dot albums. But as of now, it’s criminally underrated
@Adam Castagnetti I don’t know how anyone can say that with a straight face
The first 3rd wasn't that great. It really wasn't. But the rest.... was crazy! Damn is easily his worst project. I got friends who haven't listened to Big Steppers and that's crazy. Big Steppers was better than a lot of rappers whole careers.
@Adam Castagnetti just because MMTBS is less replayable than his commerical albums like DAMN don't mean it's bad ☠️. Literally the same argument when TPAB came out and was compared to the various hits off of GKMC
@@londobellace Fr? First 3rd has some of my favorites on it. United in Grief, N95, Die Hard, and Father Time are all great songs
@@joaquinmcgee9901 I don't agree. I was not a fan of Kendrick taking the nas production approach. Father Time was the first solid song I heard on the project. It's not too much to ask for nice beats with nice songs. And the second cd had nice beats and really heavy topics Kendrick explored well. I think the fact so many listeners bounced off the first cd speaks to my point.
Nah Drake being on the list is where they lost me.
Of course they were going to put him on the list. I think despite how I personally feel about him, I think he is pretty important to where rap is now. Though he should be way higher l.
to say that about bun b and then say REDMAN is in a good spot just hurts the soul so under appreciated
When you said “Like Proswell being on the list” I fucking lost ittt
The way J Cole jump scared him when he came up 😅
Last thing: if we were doing albums the infamous is definitely on here, but nobody from mobb deep is winning best rapper. Which again I think is super interesting and says something about the focus on the solo artist over collaboration. Part of the lingering Kayfabe of performing ‘mc’?
Kinda agree with you here. The Infamous is a top 5 hiphop album imo. There was once upon a time where i considered it number 1. That album really has it all start to finish. But it doesn't get em ranked super high. Just an inspired stroke of fuckin genius. any artist as talented as to be in breath of this conversation is capable of putting out an album like that.
J. Cole should definitely be top 20! Ludacris too
gucci should be on the list for outsized influence he is why 'mumble rap' came to dominate the genres. i love him but get he's not everyone's taste, but the last couple crops of up and coming rappers owe everything to him.