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This is 1 of the best selling trucks , yet I think it’s the most out dated truck on the market . Needs interior update & engine update/trailering tech . Great video .
That’s the most I’ve ever seen one tow. I don’t think towing is the first or even second thing peps think about when buying a Tacoma. I was pretty impressed with its ability.
@TFLtruck There is a trailer brake controller connector inside on the driver's side near the fuse panel. Plug and play with a controller. I purchased a simple $30 Reese controller, which works fine with my trailer.
The reason I bought one today was to be able to pull a couple jet skis or boat those were the deciding factors to buy the 2023 Tacoma as my rav4 can only pull 1500 pounds and I couldn’t see spending a few hundred dollars for a receiver to. Be able to pull a hitch
Those things are definitely a challenge. The last large trailer I had that I towed behind som F150s I owned was 31 ft overall, 5100 lbs dry weight and a V nose. It supposedly reduced the frontage by 40%. It really did make a difference over a 27 foot standard no’s travel trailer. I was towing it closer to 7,000 lbs with all the gear and water/propane in it. The nose was the kitchen, so we were always closer to 15% tongue weight. Aerodynamics are a big thing. Like towing with the Gladiator and the 3.6. That’s a challenge with anything past 5,000 lbs, especially with an enclosed trailer. I think the Tacoma does better. Put the Diesel in the Gladiator and it will tow the max weight with ease. I’m thinking the new Tacoma will do very well. He EcoBoost Ranger tows the max with no real issues due to all that torque and rather wide torque band the 2.3 generates. It’s not peaky like the 3.5 in the Tacoma. The. Next few years with mid size trucks will be fun!!
I have pulled a 17 foot enclosed trailer that weighed 4200. Yeah, wind resistance is a total bear. My taco is a great truck but when I get up to speed with my 2 horse or bike trailer and the wind get going, you feel it
Drag is an absolute performance killer. Plus enclosed trailers catch a lot more crosswind, which can make a windy day a bit of a white knuckle drive lol.
@@forrest225 A properly setup weight distribution and sway control system will take the white out of your knuckles. The only time I've had an exciting time towing with my Taco has been with trailers that I couldn't get my Blue Ox hitch brackets onto.
I have a 19 trd pro towing my 2022 black series HQ12 loaded with water . Dry weight is 4422lbs . With water add 592lbs. A rtt & cbi bed rack. It tows fantastic. However you only feel the weight uphill . With my reese trailer brake controller @ 60mph i feel safe & confident no worries from home to campsite. Indiana to keystone Colorado. Love my tacoma
I had a 2017 TRD off road long bed crew cab. Liked the look of the truck but hated the drivetrain. Also once I had my second daughter it just got way too tight. Can't stress enough the motor felt weak and under powered. The transmission shifted early I'm guessing putting mpgs over performance. Purchased an Ecoboost F150, couldn't be happier. No comparison.
I wonder if it's an TRD Off-Road thing, and the other models have a different throttle map. The throttle response on my TRD-OR is tuned very differently from most cars and trucks. It kind of reminds me of my hydrostatic tractor, actually. The slow, incremental throttle response gives you control, but you have to be aggressive on the throttle to get it to move quickly. It is not something I do naturally, and have to be deliberate about when I want the Taco to move instead of tip-toe around. I have not actually looked, but I assume the Taco has a throttle-by-wire system, not a cable, so the map of physical throttle position to effective throttle position is programmable. If you look at some of the aftermarket tuner / reflash stuff, some of it adds like 6hp, but the owners are all "OMG! It totally changed my truck! It is so much more responsive!" I suspect is this is because the tuners change the throttle position map. I find the Taco has adequate power for what I do with it - a mix of daily driving and towing near the rated capacity - you just have to make you demands clear when you want power delivered. The clunky transmission however... Well, that is just part of the charm =D
I tow 5400-5800# with my 2017 Taco TRD-Off Road all the time, and it does a fine job of it. Drive easy and keep the speed under 65, and I can get 12-14mpg with a car or tractor back there. I use a sway control and weight distribution hitch (Blue Ox), external brake controller (Tekonsha), and made a point to get two braking axles on my auto hauler. I also recommend Roadmasters (what I have) or Add-A-Leaf to limit squat without limiting suspension articulation. If you don't need the articulation and don't drive on gravel, then bags may preferable. I've even got some RAM style "Moose mode" flip up towing mirrors just to confuse people (that may have been a mistake - they cost about 0.5 mpg). The problem is payload, especially for a Double Cab 4x4 Off Road with extras. 600# on the hitch, a fat guy in the cab, and a few tools in the bed, and I am maxxed on payload. I've got my rear seats out because they weight 80#, but I still can't take a dog with me (admittedly, they are big dogs). Struggling against the payload limitation is what has me shopping for trucks (and watching your channel). It's sad, because a 1GD Hilux would own the category by every measure of capability. They have an amazing mid-size truck, but you can't get one in the United States. That said, a SR5 V6 Access Cab - especially a 4x2 - might be a nice little towing machine if you stay under the rated 6400# and don't need more than a few hundred pounds in the cab & bed. You should put Stubby up against some mid-size trucks on the Ike.
Just got my TRD PRO in the same color about 3 weeks before, really enjoyed it. I love the color and style. I may use it for towing if needed but most time not. it is a fun car for me, not a working vehicle. My idea is TRD OFF ROAD is much more economically friendly for off-road use, it is 8-10K cheaper than the PRO. But if you want the feeling and style from the factory TRD PRO is what I got. for the same money you can easily get a full-size pickup with much more payload and towing weight. A minus for my experience with the new TACOMA TRD PRO is the Rigid fog lights. it works for 2 weeks and now is down. didn't do any off-road this time only city and highway about 1000 miles. This is very unacceptable for a TOYOTA TACOMA.
I'm glad I got the TRD 4x4 off-road over the pro because I don't do much off-roading but if I do I have the locking diff but this suspension being just a little stiffer is good because I use it for towing a 5x10 enclosed trailer maybe fully loaded up 2500-3200 lbs, it does great 4 me. Mine is 6-speed manual
I tow a travel trailer with a tacoma. 5.29 gears are a must. It isn't too bad. Depending on the direction and intensity of wind, I get 7 to 15 mpg, but usually about 11.
@@babiclove116 3k pounds. Keep in mind that weight isn't really an issue compared to wind resistance. A travel trailer create a ten foot (or more) sail that you're dragging down the highway.
For your towing test you should be using a 6000 lb travel trailer to give wind resistance. You’re doing the same thing SAE rates trucks. Without wind resistance it’s easy to pull dead weight….
I have a 7000# 5x10 tandem axle dump trailer I tow regularly with a 2020 Tacoma Off Road 4 door short bed. I haul motorcycles, aggregate and a lot of pipe. Hauled 105 tons (many loads) of stone from 4000' up two canyons to my house at 5200' at 70 mph last summer in 8 days. I did install a brake controller. Truck rocks and it will tow.
In the 2016 Tacoma IkeGauntlet you clinbed it in 8minutes 5 seconds amazing tine and you said great power and niw you changed your mind about the power. 278hp and a 3.9 differential what else do you want. 400hp??
I shift My 21 Tacoma into 5th just to fight the wind on the interstate running 75-80. Not the ideal tow rig and that’s what my F350 is for. Love the Tacomas though as there other capabilities and resale value are unmatched. Loaded mine up this yr for 2 fly fishing trips to Colorado from Nebraska with no complaints.
Some day you should try and compare towing a 6 foot bed Tacoma to a 5 foot and see if you notice a difference in stability. I tow a 27' enclosed V front with my long wheel base Tacoma. It pulls well, but like you said, could use more power. I just take my time and I also use the manual shit mode and I just leave it in 4th gear once I get up to speed. I think the long wheel base comes with a trans cooler for towing.
Any TRD model came with a transmission cooler prior to Toyota discontinuing them in 2020 (my 2017 with a 5' bed has one). They brought them back for the new Tundra though. I don't believe they brought them back for the Tacoma.
I have a 23 trd pro. I want to use a tow dolly for my 90 reg cab long box. Shouldn't be much of a problem. Its for a single move about 750 miles. 22re let loose the head gasket.
I've seen first gen Tacoma with a 6in lift pull a fishing boat what was like 3 times it's size, truck was struggling so bad 😂 and their hookup for towing was so scary I would have been scared to behind it. I've always been wincing at towing hookups ever since I seen that. Towing it all the with a Carolina lean
Try towing in ECT mode and use the sport setting to shift gears yourself. I towed a ~6,200 trailer across the country with my 19 TRD Off Road that way and had a much better experience. The transmission in auto is just terrible in the gas mileage. I averaged 13.6!
@@HAHA.GoodMeme I’m on the KDMax 9 now. Better than it’s ever driven. Feels a lot more powerful. There is a lack of TH-cam videos on comparisons to stock though. Interested to see how a tuned Tacoma would stack up against competitors and stock.
I had a 13 Tacoma and towing 5 000 kms across Canada saw 40 L/100 kms. I was towing our Rockwood Roo which was 5 000 plus pounds. Towing the same trailer with my 20 Tundra sees fuel economy double. I see 18 to 20 L/100 kms. The 3.5 isn't as good as the old 4 litre v6.
I get 18-24 L/100km towing 4200 lb travel trailer with our 3.5L highlander with the six speed. Varies depending on wind direction, hills and speed. This is 95-100 km/h towing speed.
Nice Video I use that GY hitch on our outlander work great. Now on the truck my Uncle just got the Toyota 2023 Tacoma with the manual transmission. like it much better than automatic 2018 Tacoma he trade in. He fine tows better tow better. I think you need get the Manual Trasmission one Tacoma TRD sport. talking to my local dealership about Tacoma Manual there seen if he can fine me one before built me one. So it can be in before the end of the year. To get tax Credit
I guess it’s 2 very light cars on a very light trailer, but I’d have expected to use a Superduty for that kind of towing. Regardless of power struggles, I’m impressed.
@@robertryan7204 It’s not that I don’t think the truck can pull the weight, but I think Americans tend to tow at much higher speeds than most of the rest of the world. IMO if the truck can’t handle the load at 85 mph:(135 km/h), you probably shouldn’t have it on the freeway at all. I’ve seen people tow an 11,000 lbs (5000kg) excavator with a Ranger, it can do it, but certainly not at freeway speeds, probably not even 55mph.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 They can tow 7000lb at 70mph which is the overall freeway speeds here. Only place where speeds are restricted is Europe, but not alll of Europe. No the Ranger with a petrol engine would be fined into the ground if they tried to do it here
Very interesting video! I’m thinking of getting myself into a Tacoma access cab, V6. Basically as my daily and also use it to tow my Aluma 15’ with my X3.
Andre(y?), you are an excellent and honest presenter and I appreciate your commentary while driving. However, I don’t know that a midsize truck should be knocked for its lack of a factory trailer brake controller. I do understand that some states require trailer brakes for towing over 2,000 or 3,000 pounds, but not all do.
IMO, any vehicle which comes with a factory hitch and is rated for 5000lbs+, should at least come pre-wired for a brake controller, which my '15 Taco was. However, my '22 Highlander was not. In order to tow 3000lbs (Aluma trailer and RZR), I had to add wiring to install the brake controller. That's BS!
I think for Toyota they should make something extra special for the model so think the clutch maybe or the axle upgrade would be an amazing addition from manufacture, just for the guys who wants a mid size truck for towing capacity. That could even be a special model
I towed 9,200lb trailer and about 1,000lbs in the bed with my Toyota Tacoma all the way to Arizona over days. The Toyota Tacoma can handle a lot of abuse no problem
Andre leave the truck in 4th gear and have the ECT ON , it will not gear hunt at all and you will have plenty of power . I’ve towed my Lexus with my 21 Tacoma TRD OR 4x4 automatic, total weight I was towing was 5700# and it did it with ease !!! Even going up hills and down hills and I averaged 15mpg . Never went more than 65mph . Stayed most of the time around 60mph due to traffic.
Colorado/Canyon would be the better pulling small truck with the torque monster turbo 2.7 4 banger, would be better had GM kept the "mighty" baby Max 2.8.
@@TruckerMike089honestly I think small diesels are overrated. Sure they have gobs of low end grunt, but the new turbo gas engines do too. Plus the maintenance costs on the small diesel are almost as high as the big boys. Injectors are crazy expensive, they usually hold a ton of oil, and that price per gallon doesn’t go down just because the displacement is lower.
@@forrest225 I don't believe so. I prefer the fuel economy and reliability out of the small diesel engines verses these high tuned gas motors. Not that I'm not willing to try them out. A new Ranger seems like it would make a great truck with that turbo four cylinder it has. I'm thinking of finding an old Dakota instead and dropping a 2.8L Cummins in it with a better transmission
I have a Tacoma TRD PRO. I towed a 4 door, AWD, 4WS car with a uhaul trailer 1700 miles. In a pinch sure but was it efficient, comfortable, and safe? absolutely not.
Payload on that Tacoma is most likely 5,600lb. I have a 2022 TRD offroad, 4x4, short bed & my payload matches that sticker of 990lbs. My max towing # is 5,600. The 6,400 is likely for a long bed 2x4. See if you can tow that up I-70 from Denver above 40mph & I'll be impressed.
I am going to need to tow about 4500 pounds 1000g propane tank smoker. Likely not super long distances, but long enough that I want to make I get the right truck. My heart says Taco but IDK if that makes sense. Opinions?
Depending on how much weight he had on the hitch, he very well may have been over the GVWR. Mind you he may have been over the hitch rating, too - it's rated for 640# on the hitch, even though the actual hitch assembly is a 750# assembly. With my 2017 DCSB Off-Road, to get 640 on the hitch without exceeding the GVWR, I had to take the back seats out. That is measured with full fuel, a few tools, and a fat guy. Every time I take a new load or mix of tools, I hit the scales to make sure I balanced it correctly and don't need to move anything from the cab/bed to the trailer. Andre is a little skinnier than I am, so he may have been OK. Not gunna do the Ike with Mr Truck, unless Mr Truck rides on the trailer. With weight distribution and helper springs, it handles the load very well. It's just very restricted because of the payload limitations.
@@that.schamp I understand. What I was hinting at is the payload limitation on trucks like the Ram that boast a 20,000 plus tow rating, but can only handle something like 1200 on the hitch. This Tacoma has, IIRC from the video, a 6 or 7 thousand pound to rating. So the payload is 10% of that or greater. That's what I meant by not payload limited. I should have been more precise in my wording.
@@MidwayGuy That's just nuts. Seems like a loophole in the new SAE standard if it allows for a towing capacity that is more than 10% of the payload capacity. At least with the Tacoma, if you strip dealer accessories and weigh 150#, you can use the full towing capacity. Any truck that can't at least reach that minimum standard should be laughed off the market.
I got rid of my Tacoma because towing my 4k pound camper was such an uncomfortable experience. also the low payload was a huge issue. They are not great to tow with...
Did you not use sway control and weight distribution with the camper? My empty auto hauler will start to wag my Taco around at 70mph if I don't put some bars on for sway control. With my hitch setup properly for weight distribution, I've been up to 5800# no problem. Of course, a good hitch doesn't solve the payload limitation...
I kinda thought the same, and I havent towed anything that heavy but when I used high octane fuel there was a noticable difference for the better when towing.
Called it. Only 10 mpg towing and 17 mpg on the tank like a V8. Unfortunately, it brings barely adequate V6 power to further embarrass itself as a truck.
@@equalizer2233 22 is not that good and it shouldn't need a tune to be considered adequate. My '21 Ranger 4wd averages 25 and has enough torque to pull the typical American home off it's foundation.
@@equalizer2233 That doesn't make any sense. Because of the hood sloping it feels like a crossover?? Dude it's a solid and tough little pickup, not a crossover.
@@djrobinson8859 I've done 15 mpg with a DCSB Taco Off-Road towing a subcompact Tractor/Loader/Backhoe on my auto hauler. 5160# Trailer weight. The catch is that I was on rural Texas highways and kept it around 55. Roll up to 70 mph, and it gets more like 13 with the tractor, 14 with my car (5680# trailer weight). Note: I also have moose antler mirrors that cost me about 0.5 mpg. The only downside of towing with a Taco is the horribly restrictive payload capacity. If were shopping for mid-size now, I'd get a Ranger. I am looking at bigger trucks, but that is driven by cargo changes. If I expected to stay under 7000# trailer weight, I'd stay mid-size because of the TCO and ground pressure.
@@djrobinson8859 my diamond plate car trailer ( 2200 lbs) my side x side ( 1300 lbs. ) and some coolers full of beer and wood. Headed down to Hatfield and Mccoy trails camping
@@pryme2013 you're probably right. It seems like all car/truck manufacturers are slapping turbos on everything, which turbos are good in some situations but not all.
I’m not sure how different the Tacoma odo is compared to the 4Runner, but on the 4Runner you can push the knob on the cluster and that will bring up your trip odo.
The serious issue I have with these is the 21 gallon fuel tank capacity. Why on earth is it so small? My 07 F-150 has a 36 gallon tank and on the highway I go 500 miles without filling up. I can't imagine towing with the Tacoma and having to constantly get gas. I would love to replace my old truck but maybe I will go with a 4Runner?
I used my 19 TRD pro to tow 2000ish lbs from Connecticut to Idaho. Got a cool 11.5 mpg average, but it carried and handled just fine! As always, never knew what gear to be in...
I agree the Toyota Tacoma needs more hp and torque but I would rather have the current engine with less power instead of the new tiny turbocharged engine there going to put in there that makes more power. Small engine lots of boost lots of power doesn’t sound good for reliability. There’s a reason why semi trucks don’t have tiny turbocharged engines.
Pass on the Tacoma. If you’re off-roading sure. But just cruising highways or towing might as well get a full size with a v8. You’ll get the same or better mileage.
Midsize are also easier to park, fit in most garages, easier to wash and keep clean, easier to work on, easier to get in and out of, easier to load things in the bed, easier to get dogs in/out of. Also I just bought a brand new TRD off-road 4 door for $40k. WAY cheaper than any full size with same features. This is my second Tacoma, bought first one new in 2012 and sold it last year for more than I paid new! That won’t happen with full size either lol.
@@ajr5195 easier to wash!😂 I have a Tacoma and an f150. The f150 rides way better and has power when you need it and… it gets the same fuel mileage. I’m only speaking from experience. If you can’t park it… don’t own it. 😂
They need to slap the big boy from the Tundra in that thing and really kill the class! If the Tundra can go from like 17 to 23-24 then the Tacoma will probably hit 28-30mpg!
The Tacoma should be getting the engine from the Tundra. Thinking I'll have to trade in my 2021 early and getting a 2023, I like tacos but I have no interest in a turbo 4
The Toyota Tacoma where you get the power of a 4 cylinder and the fuel consumption of a V8 with the comfort of an old English roadster. I’ve always liked this truck, but it’s not comfortable and it lacks power and refinement. For some dumb reason though I still like it, but sure if I’d ever buy one.
Depends if ur looking for a large luxury sedan with a bed and higher ground clerance like most of the trucks have become. The tacoma still has that old scholl truck like ruggedness. It hasnt become feminized.
I know this may be an unpopular opinion, but the current generation Tacoma (really since the 2006 MY, in my opinion) isn't worth it. Yeah, they look pretty good and they've got the Toyota reputation backing them, but they simply aren't competitive with the current offerings from the other manufacturers. There are many reasons I think this, but I'm too lazy to type them up. I will say that I'm biased as I have a 1998 Taco TRD V6 manual. I purchased it new and have about 225K miles on it. Still runs like a top. I use it several times a week to haul stuff (usually under 800 lbs) and tow only occasionally (when necessary). These small trucks are NOT tow rigs...I don't care what anyone says or does. If you're going to tow a lot then you need a bigger truck. Anyhoo.just the opinion of someone in the ether......... TFL: you guys do great work on informing the masses! Keep up the great work!
Great V-6 engine, but it's getting a little old now (I think). At a mile above sea level, the lack of torque was evident when towing near max load. The proposed new engine with forced induction should help tremendously.
1. Not smart to choose a off road truck for towing test, choose the more normal configurations. 2. 270hp in the 3.5V6 and you are not happy with the power that is crazy because this power could maintain towing this weight even up the IkeGauntlet at 60mph all day without over heating. This is not a sports car test. 15 years ago full size trucks had 270hp. But yes you are right 4.1 differentials would be best for this Tacoma to tow. 3. Most reliable longest life truck Toyota you do not recommend for towing. Why, when Texas cow rachers have tested the Tundra and it passed the torture test and even over loaded it. Tacoma is amazing towing truck if you have the V6 and properly equipped and add 1 extra leaf spring.
In general, towing such a trailer by the Tacoma is a bit pointless except for the occasional tow when you have no alternative. The Tundra - whether with a 4.6 or 5.7 V8 - will do it faster, more economically, safer and with better visibility to the rear. In this setup, any Tacoma advantage of being narrower, smaller, etc. is irrelevant when towing a 102" wide trailer. I'm curious - this is a question for Tundra users (not Tacoma) - is there a big difference in stability when pulling a Tundra trailer with a short wheelbase (regular cab) compared to a longer one?
does it really? all i read says to enable ECT mode. it does say to use s4 or lower for "optimum engine braking" but nothing about locking out overdrive just for towing.
Weight Distribution and Sway control hitch solves that problem. I use a Blue Ox. I've seen people blow $60,000 for a superduty to solve a problem a $600 hitch can fix. What a good hitch can't solve is the tiny payload problem.
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By far the best personality of the entire TFL crew. You make the watching experience so much better Andre!
Definitely and by far.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q *annoying
Agreed!
Yes sir
Thank you for the kind words.
This is 1 of the best selling trucks , yet I think it’s the most out dated truck on the market . Needs interior update & engine update/trailering tech . Great video .
That’s the most I’ve ever seen one tow. I don’t think towing is the first or even second thing peps think about when buying a Tacoma. I was pretty impressed with its ability.
Indeed. This is why Toyota does not offer an integrated trailer brake controller on the current Tacoma.
@TFLtruck There is a trailer brake controller connector inside on the driver's side near the fuse panel. Plug and play with a controller. I purchased a simple $30 Reese controller, which works fine with my trailer.
Not a big deal here, they seem to tow 7000lbs regularly Hilux insteas of the Tacoma
The reason I bought one today was to be able to pull a couple jet skis or boat those were the deciding factors to buy the 2023 Tacoma as my rav4 can only pull 1500 pounds and I couldn’t see spending a few hundred dollars for a receiver to. Be able to pull a hitch
Andre is my favorite guy when it comes to automotive reviews.
would love to see this retested with a 5000+lb travel trailer. People say wind resistance is the real killer with these smaller trucks.
Those things are definitely a challenge. The last large trailer I had that I towed behind som F150s I owned was 31 ft overall, 5100 lbs dry weight and a V nose. It supposedly reduced the frontage by 40%. It really did make a difference over a 27 foot standard no’s travel trailer. I was towing it closer to 7,000 lbs with all the gear and water/propane in it. The nose was the kitchen, so we were always closer to 15% tongue weight. Aerodynamics are a big thing. Like towing with the Gladiator and the 3.6. That’s a challenge with anything past 5,000 lbs, especially with an enclosed trailer. I think the Tacoma does better. Put the Diesel in the Gladiator and it will tow the max weight with ease.
I’m thinking the new Tacoma will do very well. He EcoBoost Ranger tows the max with no real issues due to all that torque and rather wide torque band the 2.3 generates. It’s not peaky like the 3.5 in the Tacoma. The. Next few years with mid size trucks will be fun!!
I have pulled a 17 foot enclosed trailer that weighed 4200. Yeah, wind resistance is a total bear. My taco is a great truck but when I get up to speed with my 2 horse or bike trailer and the wind get going, you feel it
Drag is an absolute performance killer. Plus enclosed trailers catch a lot more crosswind, which can make a windy day a bit of a white knuckle drive lol.
@@forrest225 A properly setup weight distribution and sway control system will take the white out of your knuckles.
The only time I've had an exciting time towing with my Taco has been with trailers that I couldn't get my Blue Ox hitch brackets onto.
I'd be interested to see a towing test comparing the new Nissan Frontier and the Tacoma.
Next gen Tacoma, Ranger, Frontier, and Colorado would be cool. Look for that coming in 2024 lol.
I mean, Ranger has best in class towing. But yeah, next gens are all coming out.
Not the same class of truck but would be interesting to compare a F150 with the 3.3 v6, bigger truck smaller engine.
I have a 19 trd pro towing my 2022 black series HQ12 loaded with water . Dry weight is 4422lbs . With water add 592lbs. A rtt & cbi bed rack. It tows fantastic. However you only feel the weight uphill . With my reese trailer brake controller @ 60mph i feel safe & confident no worries from home to campsite. Indiana to keystone Colorado. Love my tacoma
I had a 2017 TRD off road long bed crew cab. Liked the look of the truck but hated the drivetrain. Also once I had my second daughter it just got way too tight. Can't stress enough the motor felt weak and under powered. The transmission shifted early I'm guessing putting mpgs over performance. Purchased an Ecoboost F150, couldn't be happier. No comparison.
The F150 is indeed a much larger truck with plentiful power. It's in a different class.
Drive train is fine, nothing wrong with it
I wonder if it's an TRD Off-Road thing, and the other models have a different throttle map.
The throttle response on my TRD-OR is tuned very differently from most cars and trucks. It kind of reminds me of my hydrostatic tractor, actually.
The slow, incremental throttle response gives you control, but you have to be aggressive on the throttle to get it to move quickly. It is not something I do naturally, and have to be deliberate about when I want the Taco to move instead of tip-toe around.
I have not actually looked, but I assume the Taco has a throttle-by-wire system, not a cable, so the map of physical throttle position to effective throttle position is programmable.
If you look at some of the aftermarket tuner / reflash stuff, some of it adds like 6hp, but the owners are all "OMG! It totally changed my truck! It is so much more responsive!" I suspect is this is because the tuners change the throttle position map.
I find the Taco has adequate power for what I do with it - a mix of daily driving and towing near the rated capacity - you just have to make you demands clear when you want power delivered.
The clunky transmission however... Well, that is just part of the charm =D
@@TFLtruck Its also a Ford 🤮
I tow 5400-5800# with my 2017 Taco TRD-Off Road all the time, and it does a fine job of it. Drive easy and keep the speed under 65, and I can get 12-14mpg with a car or tractor back there.
I use a sway control and weight distribution hitch (Blue Ox), external brake controller (Tekonsha), and made a point to get two braking axles on my auto hauler. I also recommend Roadmasters (what I have) or Add-A-Leaf to limit squat without limiting suspension articulation. If you don't need the articulation and don't drive on gravel, then bags may preferable. I've even got some RAM style "Moose mode" flip up towing mirrors just to confuse people (that may have been a mistake - they cost about 0.5 mpg).
The problem is payload, especially for a Double Cab 4x4 Off Road with extras. 600# on the hitch, a fat guy in the cab, and a few tools in the bed, and I am maxxed on payload. I've got my rear seats out because they weight 80#, but I still can't take a dog with me (admittedly, they are big dogs). Struggling against the payload limitation is what has me shopping for trucks (and watching your channel).
It's sad, because a 1GD Hilux would own the category by every measure of capability. They have an amazing mid-size truck, but you can't get one in the United States.
That said, a SR5 V6 Access Cab - especially a 4x2 - might be a nice little towing machine if you stay under the rated 6400# and don't need more than a few hundred pounds in the cab & bed.
You should put Stubby up against some mid-size trucks on the Ike.
We need to see this setup on a super Ike run!!
Just got my TRD PRO in the same color about 3 weeks before, really enjoyed it. I love the color and style.
I may use it for towing if needed but most time not. it is a fun car for me, not a working vehicle. My idea is TRD OFF ROAD is much more economically friendly for off-road use, it is 8-10K cheaper than the PRO. But if you want the feeling and style from the factory TRD PRO is what I got. for the same money you can easily get a full-size pickup with much more payload and towing weight.
A minus for my experience with the new TACOMA TRD PRO is the Rigid fog lights. it works for 2 weeks and now is down. didn't do any off-road this time only city and highway about 1000 miles. This is very unacceptable for a TOYOTA TACOMA.
Just got my TRD Pro a few weeks ago, same color but with a 6 speed. I love it!
The manual is THE way to go with the 3.5 Taco
Gen-Y torsion hitches and couplers are a god send for towing. Worth every penny!
I'm glad I got the TRD 4x4 off-road over the pro because I don't do much off-roading but if I do I have the locking diff but this suspension being just a little stiffer is good because I use it for towing a 5x10 enclosed trailer maybe fully loaded up 2500-3200 lbs, it does great 4 me. Mine is 6-speed manual
I tow a travel trailer with a tacoma. 5.29 gears are a must. It isn't too bad. Depending on the direction and intensity of wind, I get 7 to 15 mpg, but usually about 11.
How much weight are you pulling? Thnx.
@@babiclove116 3k pounds. Keep in mind that weight isn't really an issue compared to wind resistance. A travel trailer create a ten foot (or more) sail that you're dragging down the highway.
For your towing test you should be using a 6000 lb travel trailer to give wind resistance. You’re doing the same thing SAE rates trucks. Without wind resistance it’s easy to pull dead weight….
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I have a 7000# 5x10 tandem axle dump trailer I tow regularly with a 2020 Tacoma Off Road 4 door short bed. I haul motorcycles, aggregate and a lot of pipe. Hauled 105 tons (many loads) of stone from 4000' up two canyons to my house at 5200' at 70 mph last summer in 8 days. I did install a brake controller. Truck rocks and it will tow.
Good to know 👍🏻
Can’t wait for that 2.4 turbo I will be trading in my 2017 v6 with no torque.
Gotta love that solar octane
Everybody knows the greatest Taco ever was the 2005-2015 with the 4.0
The upcoming 4-banger won't change that
Greatest Taco is the orginal crunchy taco from Taco Bell
100%
Debatable. Could never get behind the body style, either.
1gr fe is a fantastic engine. It is near bullet proof. I had a 13.
They are getting away from the V6? That would be incredibly stupid if Toyota does that
In the 2016 Tacoma IkeGauntlet you clinbed it in 8minutes 5 seconds amazing tine and you said great power and niw you changed your mind about the power. 278hp and a 3.9 differential what else do you want. 400hp??
I shift My 21 Tacoma into 5th just to fight the wind on the interstate running 75-80. Not the ideal tow rig and that’s what my F350 is for. Love the Tacomas though as there other capabilities and resale value are unmatched. Loaded mine up this yr for 2 fly fishing trips to Colorado from Nebraska with no complaints.
Would have loved to see trans temp with you towing that much weight in D
Yeah really. The manual recommends S mode and ECT on.
Those little cars are crazy but interesting.
Some day you should try and compare towing a 6 foot bed Tacoma to a 5 foot and see if you notice a difference in stability. I tow a 27' enclosed V front with my long wheel base Tacoma. It pulls well, but like you said, could use more power. I just take my time and I also use the manual shit mode and I just leave it in 4th gear once I get up to speed. I think the long wheel base comes with a trans cooler for towing.
Any TRD model came with a transmission cooler prior to Toyota discontinuing them in 2020 (my 2017 with a 5' bed has one). They brought them back for the new Tundra though. I don't believe they brought them back for the Tacoma.
If you wanted to try you could get a cold air intake to give you a slight increase in power
@@kaelmorse6922 Tacomas already have a cold air intake as the intake is away from the engine and in the fender.
Manual shit mode ? 😂😂😂
@@RedWingsninetyone I’m talking about aftermarket
That's 2 Golf carts not 2 cars.🤣🤣. Just kidding Tommy.
I agree the trailer is heavier than those cars…..
This is insanely impressive.
Interesting. Nice to see some variety.
I have an 07 Tacoma 4.0 with 15,000 original miles. It shows it's taillights to my wife's new 2022 3.5. The 3.5 lacks low end grunt.
I love the Citroën!!!
I have a 23 trd pro. I want to use a tow dolly for my 90 reg cab long box. Shouldn't be much of a problem. Its for a single move about 750 miles. 22re let loose the head gasket.
I've seen first gen Tacoma with a 6in lift pull a fishing boat what was like 3 times it's size, truck was struggling so bad 😂 and their hookup for towing was so scary I would have been scared to behind it. I've always been wincing at towing hookups ever since I seen that. Towing it all the with a Carolina lean
Try towing in ECT mode and use the sport setting to shift gears yourself. I towed a ~6,200 trailer across the country with my 19 TRD Off Road that way and had a much better experience. The transmission in auto is just terrible in the gas mileage. I averaged 13.6!
Only reason I didn’t get one was mpg but once the new hybrid comes I’m definitely purchasing.
Try a subscribers tuned (KDMaxx OTT OV etc) 3rd Gen Tacoma and see if it makes a difference.
newest KDmaxx is like +25 tq and smarter shift ranges. With 5.29 gears as well, my 6000lb taco moves better than a stock 4555lb one.
@@HAHA.GoodMeme I’m on the KDMax 9 now. Better than it’s ever driven. Feels a lot more powerful. There is a lack of TH-cam videos on comparisons to stock though. Interested to see how a tuned Tacoma would stack up against competitors and stock.
I had a 13 Tacoma and towing 5 000 kms across Canada saw 40 L/100 kms. I was towing our Rockwood Roo which was 5 000 plus pounds. Towing the same trailer with my 20 Tundra sees fuel economy double. I see 18 to 20 L/100 kms. The 3.5 isn't as good as the old 4 litre v6.
I get 18-24 L/100km towing 4200 lb travel trailer with our 3.5L highlander with the six speed. Varies depending on wind direction, hills and speed. This is 95-100 km/h towing speed.
I need to tow 3-6k pounds once every month or so. Need a gas sipping occasionally off roading 10 year vehicle. Curious to see what the 2024 brings.
always fun to watch.
Nice Video I use that GY hitch on our outlander work great.
Now on the truck my Uncle just got the Toyota 2023 Tacoma with the manual transmission. like it much better than automatic 2018 Tacoma he trade in. He fine tows better tow better. I think you need get the Manual Trasmission one Tacoma TRD sport. talking to my local dealership about Tacoma Manual there seen if he can fine me one before built me one. So it can be in before the end of the year. To get tax Credit
Towing not 1 car but 2 cars the size of 1. LOL. Nice job guys. I always enjoy your videos.
I guess it’s 2 very light cars on a very light trailer, but I’d have expected to use a Superduty for that kind of towing. Regardless of power struggles, I’m impressed.
Regularly do that it. Hilux instead of Tacoma
@@robertryan7204 It’s not that I don’t think the truck can pull the weight, but I think Americans tend to tow at much higher speeds than most of the rest of the world. IMO if the truck can’t handle the load at 85 mph:(135 km/h), you probably shouldn’t have it on the freeway at all. I’ve seen people tow an 11,000 lbs (5000kg) excavator with a Ranger, it can do it, but certainly not at freeway speeds, probably not even 55mph.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 They can tow 7000lb at 70mph which is the overall freeway speeds here. Only place where speeds are restricted is Europe, but not alll of Europe. No the Ranger with a petrol engine would be fined into the ground if they tried to do it here
I would love to see the manual trans version tow. Or this one on the Ike!
Very interesting video! I’m thinking of getting myself into a Tacoma access cab, V6. Basically as my daily and also use it to tow my Aluma 15’ with my X3.
We need more Nathan videos!
Andre(y?), you are an excellent and honest presenter and I appreciate your commentary while driving. However, I don’t know that a midsize truck should be knocked for its lack of a factory trailer brake controller. I do understand that some states require trailer brakes for towing over 2,000 or 3,000 pounds, but not all do.
IMO, any vehicle which comes with a factory hitch and is rated for 5000lbs+, should at least come pre-wired for a brake controller, which my '15 Taco was. However, my '22 Highlander was not. In order to tow 3000lbs (Aluma trailer and RZR), I had to add wiring to install the brake controller. That's BS!
I think for Toyota they should make something extra special for the model so think the clutch maybe or the axle upgrade would be an amazing addition from manufacture, just for the guys who wants a mid size truck for towing capacity. That could even be a special model
With a 4WD short bed TRD Pro, no less! I’d assume a long bed SR5 V6 would do even better (being lighter and longer wheelbase)
I towed 9,200lb trailer and about 1,000lbs in the bed with my Toyota Tacoma all the way to Arizona over days. The Toyota Tacoma can handle a lot of abuse no problem
Andre leave the truck in 4th gear and have the ECT ON , it will not gear hunt at all and you will have plenty of power . I’ve towed my Lexus with my 21 Tacoma TRD OR 4x4 automatic, total weight I was towing was 5700# and it did it with ease !!! Even going up hills and down hills and I averaged 15mpg . Never went more than 65mph . Stayed most of the time around 60mph due to traffic.
Colorado/Canyon would be the better pulling small truck with the torque monster turbo 2.7 4 banger, would be better had GM kept the "mighty" baby Max 2.8.
Yeah I'd of been interested in buying one with the diesel. Sadly now if you want a diesel midsize you almost have to make one yourself
@@TruckerMike089honestly I think small diesels are overrated. Sure they have gobs of low end grunt, but the new turbo gas engines do too. Plus the maintenance costs on the small diesel are almost as high as the big boys. Injectors are crazy expensive, they usually hold a ton of oil, and that price per gallon doesn’t go down just because the displacement is lower.
@@forrest225 I don't believe so. I prefer the fuel economy and reliability out of the small diesel engines verses these high tuned gas motors. Not that I'm not willing to try them out. A new Ranger seems like it would make a great truck with that turbo four cylinder it has. I'm thinking of finding an old Dakota instead and dropping a 2.8L Cummins in it with a better transmission
Nice. No weight distributing needed to tow all that? It looks like a max tow load.
I have a Tacoma TRD PRO. I towed a 4 door, AWD, 4WS car with a uhaul trailer 1700 miles. In a pinch sure but was it efficient, comfortable, and safe? absolutely not.
Payload on that Tacoma is most likely 5,600lb. I have a 2022 TRD offroad, 4x4, short bed & my payload matches that sticker of 990lbs. My max towing # is 5,600. The 6,400 is likely for a long bed 2x4. See if you can tow that up I-70 from Denver above 40mph & I'll be impressed.
I am going to need to tow about 4500 pounds 1000g propane tank smoker. Likely not super long distances, but long enough that I want to make I get the right truck. My heart says Taco but IDK if that makes sense. Opinions?
I tow with a 2019 Sport. The only issue is the cargo. 950lbs on mine 😔
I love when you push these trucks to their limits- or beyond. And hey, it isn't payload limited!
It's very payload limited when the competition can outperform it by almost 600lbs in some cases.
Depending on how much weight he had on the hitch, he very well may have been over the GVWR. Mind you he may have been over the hitch rating, too - it's rated for 640# on the hitch, even though the actual hitch assembly is a 750# assembly.
With my 2017 DCSB Off-Road, to get 640 on the hitch without exceeding the GVWR, I had to take the back seats out. That is measured with full fuel, a few tools, and a fat guy. Every time I take a new load or mix of tools, I hit the scales to make sure I balanced it correctly and don't need to move anything from the cab/bed to the trailer. Andre is a little skinnier than I am, so he may have been OK. Not gunna do the Ike with Mr Truck, unless Mr Truck rides on the trailer.
With weight distribution and helper springs, it handles the load very well. It's just very restricted because of the payload limitations.
@@that.schamp I understand. What I was hinting at is the payload limitation on trucks like the Ram that boast a 20,000 plus tow rating, but can only handle something like 1200 on the hitch. This Tacoma has, IIRC from the video, a 6 or 7 thousand pound to rating. So the payload is 10% of that or greater. That's what I meant by not payload limited.
I should have been more precise in my wording.
@@MidwayGuy That's just nuts. Seems like a loophole in the new SAE standard if it allows for a towing capacity that is more than 10% of the payload capacity.
At least with the Tacoma, if you strip dealer accessories and weigh 150#, you can use the full towing capacity.
Any truck that can't at least reach that minimum standard should be laughed off the market.
TRD off road has off road suspension, regular sport or even SR5 is better for towing
The idea can you slow down and stop? If not, trailer load would push your Tacoma readend, burn brakes.😂
I got rid of my Tacoma because towing my 4k pound camper was such an uncomfortable experience. also the low payload was a huge issue. They are not great to tow with...
Did you not use sway control and weight distribution with the camper?
My empty auto hauler will start to wag my Taco around at 70mph if I don't put some bars on for sway control. With my hitch setup properly for weight distribution, I've been up to 5800# no problem.
Of course, a good hitch doesn't solve the payload limitation...
I kinda thought the same, and I havent towed anything that heavy but when I used high octane fuel there was a noticable difference for the better when towing.
@@that.schamp I own a 2017 TRD 4x4, pulling a 4400lbs Geo Pro FBS with a wds with sway control, no issues.
Called it. Only 10 mpg towing and 17 mpg on the tank like a V8. Unfortunately, it brings barely adequate V6 power to further embarrass itself as a truck.
I average 22 mpg with mine and the power is fine after a tune
@@equalizer2233 22 is not that good and it shouldn't need a tune to be considered adequate. My '21 Ranger 4wd averages 25 and has enough torque to pull the typical American home off it's foundation.
@@302Mustang13 Ya but those rangers feel like ur sitting in a CUV when behind the wheel the way the hood slopes straight down
@@equalizer2233 That doesn't make any sense. Because of the hood sloping it feels like a crossover?? Dude it's a solid and tough little pickup, not a crossover.
@kennetho5393 the ranger doesn't have that much torque wtf. And it won't last 200k plus so there's that
That TimTheTatman outro song at about the 5 minute mark threw me off so bad xD
After the 1st oil change, you'll see the MPG on towing go up. The most I have gotten is 13.6 while towing with my Tacoma.
How much weight were you towing
@@djrobinson8859 Empty car dolly
@@djrobinson8859 I've done 15 mpg with a DCSB Taco Off-Road towing a subcompact Tractor/Loader/Backhoe on my auto hauler. 5160# Trailer weight. The catch is that I was on rural Texas highways and kept it around 55. Roll up to 70 mph, and it gets more like 13 with the tractor, 14 with my car (5680# trailer weight). Note: I also have moose antler mirrors that cost me about 0.5 mpg.
The only downside of towing with a Taco is the horribly restrictive payload capacity. If were shopping for mid-size now, I'd get a Ranger. I am looking at bigger trucks, but that is driven by cargo changes. If I expected to stay under 7000# trailer weight, I'd stay mid-size because of the TCO and ground pressure.
@@djrobinson8859 my diamond plate car trailer ( 2200 lbs) my side x side ( 1300 lbs. ) and some coolers full of beer and wood. Headed down to Hatfield and Mccoy trails camping
I own a 22 Tacoma and on the highway when it’s windy it is a bit annoying. If you put it in S5 it does much better
No turbos?? Sold.
As always another great video, another great review. Thanks Andrea.
Better hurry the new Tacoma will have turbos and be ruined just like the Tundra
@@pryme2013 you're probably right. It seems like all car/truck manufacturers are slapping turbos on everything, which turbos are good in some situations but not all.
Super Ike
I’m not sure how different the Tacoma odo is compared to the 4Runner, but on the 4Runner you can push the knob on the cluster and that will bring up your trip odo.
I know when you can get get you a jeep gladiator Willis with a manual transmission with built-in break controller and you can still tell your boat.
Can you try a tow with an SR5?
The serious issue I have with these is the 21 gallon fuel tank capacity. Why on earth is it so small? My 07 F-150 has a 36 gallon tank and on the highway I go 500 miles without filling up. I can't imagine towing with the Tacoma and having to constantly get gas. I would love to replace my old truck but maybe I will go with a 4Runner?
I used my 19 TRD pro to tow 2000ish lbs from Connecticut to Idaho. Got a cool 11.5 mpg average, but it carried and handled just fine! As always, never knew what gear to be in...
The automatic in this generation Tacoma is notorious for poor shift calibration. Constantly gear hops. I find it unbearable.
11.5 with only 2000lbs? Pretty bad
@@fishinfool63 yea 3rd gens are quite underpowered. Pretty much a glorified sienna powerplant
In the owner’s manual, never use ECT, and put in sport mode. It will only go to 4th gear.
The 2CV (deux chevaux) has a build-in coat hanger, aka stickshift. The 500, well... okay....
I agree the Toyota Tacoma needs more hp and torque but I would rather have the current engine with less power instead of the new tiny turbocharged engine there going to put in there that makes more power. Small engine lots of boost lots of power doesn’t sound good for reliability. There’s a reason why semi trucks don’t have tiny turbocharged engines.
Pass on the Tacoma. If you’re off-roading sure. But just cruising highways or towing might as well get a full size with a v8. You’ll get the same or better mileage.
And space, for about the same price.
If you are towing in a congested area smaller trucks make maneuvering easier, otherwise get a full size.
Midsize are also easier to park, fit in most garages, easier to wash and keep clean, easier to work on, easier to get in and out of, easier to load things in the bed, easier to get dogs in/out of. Also I just bought a brand new TRD off-road 4 door for $40k. WAY cheaper than any full size with same features. This is my second Tacoma, bought first one new in 2012 and sold it last year for more than I paid new! That won’t happen with full size either lol.
@@ajr5195 easier to wash!😂
I have a Tacoma and an f150. The f150 rides way better and has power when you need it and… it gets the same fuel mileage. I’m only speaking from experience. If you can’t park it… don’t own it. 😂
@@westeed1 👍👍
They need to slap the big boy from the Tundra in that thing and really kill the class! If the Tundra can go from like 17 to 23-24 then the Tacoma will probably hit 28-30mpg!
Great idea, strap the 2cv from the chassi because that suspension isn't going anywhere! 😂🙄
It looks like you don't want to leave not more
The long wheelbase Tacoma also has a laughable payload. Seen a 2wd with the same payload.
Before you sell the Bronco make a video on door removal
How does it compare to the cheap ram
TFL to Toyota: "Hey, we'll review your Sequoia and Tacoma under one condition. Both have to be Solar Octane!"
bright colors in thumbnail = more clicks. It's sad but true
I would tow with a Toyota anytime of the day
The Tacoma should be getting the engine from the Tundra. Thinking I'll have to trade in my 2021 early and getting a 2023, I like tacos but I have no interest in a turbo 4
The Toyota Tacoma where you get the power of a 4 cylinder and the fuel consumption of a V8 with the comfort of an old English roadster.
I’ve always liked this truck, but it’s not comfortable and it lacks power and refinement. For some dumb reason though I still like it, but sure if I’d ever buy one.
Depends if ur looking for a large luxury sedan with a bed and higher ground clerance like most of the trucks have become. The tacoma still has that old scholl truck like ruggedness. It hasnt become feminized.
@@equalizer2233 wow, so they finally took out the tampon dispenser in the Tacoma?
You get the power of a v6 and the fuel consumption of a v6 in the taco don't know what you're talking about
@@chanoleyva8584 a full size truck with a V8 averages 17 mpg. The Taco with a V6 also averages 17 mpg.
I know this may be an unpopular opinion, but the current generation Tacoma (really since the 2006 MY, in my opinion) isn't worth it. Yeah, they look pretty good and they've got the Toyota reputation backing them, but they simply aren't competitive with the current offerings from the other manufacturers. There are many reasons I think this, but I'm too lazy to type them up. I will say that I'm biased as I have a 1998 Taco TRD V6 manual. I purchased it new and have about 225K miles on it. Still runs like a top. I use it several times a week to haul stuff (usually under 800 lbs) and tow only occasionally (when necessary). These small trucks are NOT tow rigs...I don't care what anyone says or does. If you're going to tow a lot then you need a bigger truck.
Anyhoo.just the opinion of someone in the ether.........
TFL: you guys do great work on informing the masses! Keep up the great work!
*Taco vs Two Golf Carts
Now my question is are you 1 mile above sea level? 😵💫🤪🙏☘️
Great V-6 engine, but it's getting a little old now (I think). At a mile above sea level, the lack of torque was evident when towing near max load. The proposed new engine with forced induction should help tremendously.
While it may have more power, I doubt it will be as reliable.
"Le" bumblebee 🧐
Hi TFL. I love the TRD Pro! Question... when is the blackout lifted on the Honda Pilot?
1. Not smart to choose a off road truck for towing test, choose the more normal configurations.
2. 270hp in the 3.5V6 and you are not happy with the power that is crazy because this power could maintain towing this weight even up the IkeGauntlet at 60mph all day without over heating. This is not a sports car test. 15 years ago full size trucks had 270hp. But yes you are right 4.1 differentials would be best for this Tacoma to tow.
3. Most reliable longest life truck Toyota you do not recommend for towing. Why, when Texas cow rachers have tested the Tundra and it passed the torture test and even over loaded it.
Tacoma is amazing towing truck if you have the V6 and properly equipped and add 1 extra leaf spring.
if my choice were any toyota vs a horse, I would relearn how to shoe a horse!
Put a v8 in one. I wish I didn't sell my v8 4Runner with a 7500lb towing capacity. Pulled several race cars with it no prob
In general, towing such a trailer by the Tacoma is a bit pointless except for the occasional tow when you have no alternative.
The Tundra - whether with a 4.6 or 5.7 V8 - will do it faster, more economically, safer and with better visibility to the rear.
In this setup, any Tacoma advantage of being narrower, smaller, etc. is irrelevant when towing a 102" wide trailer.
I'm curious - this is a question for Tundra users (not Tacoma) - is there a big difference in stability when pulling a Tundra trailer with a short wheelbase (regular cab) compared to a longer one?
I had both. Couldn’t tell any diff at all.
What I don't like is the tacoma doors close like beer cans
Toyota owner's manual recommends locking out 5th and 6th while towing. So put in in S4 next time.
They often don't select the correct gear for the task. Towing in overdrive. Off-roading in Drive. It "drives" me crazy!
does it really? all i read says to enable ECT mode. it does say to use s4 or lower for "optimum engine braking" but nothing about locking out overdrive just for towing.
@@allseeingeyezz it is in there. You’re not suppose to tow in overdrive.
Well it isn’t gonna be a rocket ship isn’t it a n/a v6
I love the Toyota Tacoma, but damn, they're so unstable when pulling a larger profile trailer.
Weight Distribution and Sway control hitch solves that problem. I use a Blue Ox.
I've seen people blow $60,000 for a superduty to solve a problem a $600 hitch can fix.
What a good hitch can't solve is the tiny payload problem.