I Tow an ENORMOUS Trailer with the New Toyota Tacoma: Is It Too Much?
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did andre sell his f150 on tflbids?
By far the best personality of the entire TFL crew. You make the watching experience so much better Andre!
Definitely and by far.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q *annoying
Agreed!
Yes sir
Thank you for the kind words.
That’s the most I’ve ever seen one tow. I don’t think towing is the first or even second thing peps think about when buying a Tacoma. I was pretty impressed with its ability.
Indeed. This is why Toyota does not offer an integrated trailer brake controller on the current Tacoma.
@TFLtruck There is a trailer brake controller connector inside on the driver's side near the fuse panel. Plug and play with a controller. I purchased a simple $30 Reese controller, which works fine with my trailer.
Not a big deal here, they seem to tow 7000lbs regularly Hilux insteas of the Tacoma
The reason I bought one today was to be able to pull a couple jet skis or boat those were the deciding factors to buy the 2023 Tacoma as my rav4 can only pull 1500 pounds and I couldn’t see spending a few hundred dollars for a receiver to. Be able to pull a hitch
This is 1 of the best selling trucks , yet I think it’s the most out dated truck on the market . Needs interior update & engine update/trailering tech . Great video .
I have a 19 trd pro towing my 2022 black series HQ12 loaded with water . Dry weight is 4422lbs . With water add 592lbs. A rtt & cbi bed rack. It tows fantastic. However you only feel the weight uphill . With my reese trailer brake controller @ 60mph i feel safe & confident no worries from home to campsite. Indiana to keystone Colorado. Love my tacoma
Just got my TRD PRO in the same color about 3 weeks before, really enjoyed it. I love the color and style.
I may use it for towing if needed but most time not. it is a fun car for me, not a working vehicle. My idea is TRD OFF ROAD is much more economically friendly for off-road use, it is 8-10K cheaper than the PRO. But if you want the feeling and style from the factory TRD PRO is what I got. for the same money you can easily get a full-size pickup with much more payload and towing weight.
A minus for my experience with the new TACOMA TRD PRO is the Rigid fog lights. it works for 2 weeks and now is down. didn't do any off-road this time only city and highway about 1000 miles. This is very unacceptable for a TOYOTA TACOMA.
I'm glad I got the TRD 4x4 off-road over the pro because I don't do much off-roading but if I do I have the locking diff but this suspension being just a little stiffer is good because I use it for towing a 5x10 enclosed trailer maybe fully loaded up 2500-3200 lbs, it does great 4 me. Mine is 6-speed manual
Just got my TRD Pro a few weeks ago, same color but with a 6 speed. I love it!
The manual is THE way to go with the 3.5 Taco
Can’t wait for that 2.4 turbo I will be trading in my 2017 v6 with no torque.
Everybody knows the greatest Taco ever was the 2005-2015 with the 4.0
The upcoming 4-banger won't change that
Greatest Taco is the orginal crunchy taco from Taco Bell
100%
Debatable. Could never get behind the body style, either.
1gr fe is a fantastic engine. It is near bullet proof. I had a 13.
They are getting away from the V6? That would be incredibly stupid if Toyota does that
Gen-Y torsion hitches and couplers are a god send for towing. Worth every penny!
I'd be interested to see a towing test comparing the new Nissan Frontier and the Tacoma.
Next gen Tacoma, Ranger, Frontier, and Colorado would be cool. Look for that coming in 2024 lol.
I mean, Ranger has best in class towing. But yeah, next gens are all coming out.
Not the same class of truck but would be interesting to compare a F150 with the 3.3 v6, bigger truck smaller engine.
Gotta love that solar octane
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Some day you should try and compare towing a 6 foot bed Tacoma to a 5 foot and see if you notice a difference in stability. I tow a 27' enclosed V front with my long wheel base Tacoma. It pulls well, but like you said, could use more power. I just take my time and I also use the manual shit mode and I just leave it in 4th gear once I get up to speed. I think the long wheel base comes with a trans cooler for towing.
Any TRD model came with a transmission cooler prior to Toyota discontinuing them in 2020 (my 2017 with a 5' bed has one). They brought them back for the new Tundra though. I don't believe they brought them back for the Tacoma.
If you wanted to try you could get a cold air intake to give you a slight increase in power
@@kaelmorse6922 Tacomas already have a cold air intake as the intake is away from the engine and in the fender.
Manual shit mode ? 😂😂😂
@@RedWingsninetyone I’m talking about aftermarket
The idea can you slow down and stop? If not, trailer load would push your Tacoma readend, burn brakes.😂
Those little cars are crazy but interesting.
I've seen first gen Tacoma with a 6in lift pull a fishing boat what was like 3 times it's size, truck was struggling so bad 😂 and their hookup for towing was so scary I would have been scared to behind it. I've always been wincing at towing hookups ever since I seen that. Towing it all the with a Carolina lean
I had a 13 Tacoma and towing 5 000 kms across Canada saw 40 L/100 kms. I was towing our Rockwood Roo which was 5 000 plus pounds. Towing the same trailer with my 20 Tundra sees fuel economy double. I see 18 to 20 L/100 kms. The 3.5 isn't as good as the old 4 litre v6.
I get 18-24 L/100km towing 4200 lb travel trailer with our 3.5L highlander with the six speed. Varies depending on wind direction, hills and speed. This is 95-100 km/h towing speed.
Try a subscribers tuned (KDMaxx OTT OV etc) 3rd Gen Tacoma and see if it makes a difference.
newest KDmaxx is like +25 tq and smarter shift ranges. With 5.29 gears as well, my 6000lb taco moves better than a stock 4555lb one.
@@HAHA.GoodMeme I’m on the KDMax 9 now. Better than it’s ever driven. Feels a lot more powerful. There is a lack of TH-cam videos on comparisons to stock though. Interested to see how a tuned Tacoma would stack up against competitors and stock.
I guess it’s 2 very light cars on a very light trailer, but I’d have expected to use a Superduty for that kind of towing. Regardless of power struggles, I’m impressed.
Regularly do that it. Hilux instead of Tacoma
@@robertryan7204 It’s not that I don’t think the truck can pull the weight, but I think Americans tend to tow at much higher speeds than most of the rest of the world. IMO if the truck can’t handle the load at 85 mph:(135 km/h), you probably shouldn’t have it on the freeway at all. I’ve seen people tow an 11,000 lbs (5000kg) excavator with a Ranger, it can do it, but certainly not at freeway speeds, probably not even 55mph.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 They can tow 7000lb at 70mph which is the overall freeway speeds here. Only place where speeds are restricted is Europe, but not alll of Europe. No the Ranger with a petrol engine would be fined into the ground if they tried to do it here
I have an 07 Tacoma 4.0 with 15,000 original miles. It shows it's taillights to my wife's new 2022 3.5. The 3.5 lacks low end grunt.
With a 4WD short bed TRD Pro, no less! I’d assume a long bed SR5 V6 would do even better (being lighter and longer wheelbase)
Interesting. Nice to see some variety.
Nice. No weight distributing needed to tow all that? It looks like a max tow load.
Try towing in ECT mode and use the sport setting to shift gears yourself. I towed a ~6,200 trailer across the country with my 19 TRD Off Road that way and had a much better experience. The transmission in auto is just terrible in the gas mileage. I averaged 13.6!
Only reason I didn’t get one was mpg but once the new hybrid comes I’m definitely purchasing.
That TimTheTatman outro song at about the 5 minute mark threw me off so bad xD
I love the Citroën!!!
I need to tow 3-6k pounds once every month or so. Need a gas sipping occasionally off roading 10 year vehicle. Curious to see what the 2024 brings.
This is insanely impressive.
Andre(y?), you are an excellent and honest presenter and I appreciate your commentary while driving. However, I don’t know that a midsize truck should be knocked for its lack of a factory trailer brake controller. I do understand that some states require trailer brakes for towing over 2,000 or 3,000 pounds, but not all do.
IMO, any vehicle which comes with a factory hitch and is rated for 5000lbs+, should at least come pre-wired for a brake controller, which my '15 Taco was. However, my '22 Highlander was not. In order to tow 3000lbs (Aluma trailer and RZR), I had to add wiring to install the brake controller. That's BS!
After the 1st oil change, you'll see the MPG on towing go up. The most I have gotten is 13.6 while towing with my Tacoma.
How much weight were you towing
@@djrobinson8859 Empty car dolly
@@djrobinson8859 I've done 15 mpg with a DCSB Taco Off-Road towing a subcompact Tractor/Loader/Backhoe on my auto hauler. 5160# Trailer weight. The catch is that I was on rural Texas highways and kept it around 55. Roll up to 70 mph, and it gets more like 13 with the tractor, 14 with my car (5680# trailer weight). Note: I also have moose antler mirrors that cost me about 0.5 mpg.
The only downside of towing with a Taco is the horribly restrictive payload capacity. If were shopping for mid-size now, I'd get a Ranger. I am looking at bigger trucks, but that is driven by cargo changes. If I expected to stay under 7000# trailer weight, I'd stay mid-size because of the TCO and ground pressure.
@@djrobinson8859 my diamond plate car trailer ( 2200 lbs) my side x side ( 1300 lbs. ) and some coolers full of beer and wood. Headed down to Hatfield and Mccoy trails camping
I have a Tacoma TRD PRO. I towed a 4 door, AWD, 4WS car with a uhaul trailer 1700 miles. In a pinch sure but was it efficient, comfortable, and safe? absolutely not.
I got rid of my Tacoma because towing my 4k pound camper was such an uncomfortable experience. also the low payload was a huge issue. They are not great to tow with...
Did you not use sway control and weight distribution with the camper?
My empty auto hauler will start to wag my Taco around at 70mph if I don't put some bars on for sway control. With my hitch setup properly for weight distribution, I've been up to 5800# no problem.
Of course, a good hitch doesn't solve the payload limitation...
I kinda thought the same, and I havent towed anything that heavy but when I used high octane fuel there was a noticable difference for the better when towing.
@@that.schamp I own a 2017 TRD 4x4, pulling a 4400lbs Geo Pro FBS with a wds with sway control, no issues.
TRD off road has off road suspension, regular sport or even SR5 is better for towing
No turbos?? Sold.
As always another great video, another great review. Thanks Andrea.
Better hurry the new Tacoma will have turbos and be ruined just like the Tundra
@@pryme2013 you're probably right. It seems like all car/truck manufacturers are slapping turbos on everything, which turbos are good in some situations but not all.
always fun to watch.
Andre leave the truck in 4th gear and have the ECT ON , it will not gear hunt at all and you will have plenty of power . I’ve towed my Lexus with my 21 Tacoma TRD OR 4x4 automatic, total weight I was towing was 5700# and it did it with ease !!! Even going up hills and down hills and I averaged 15mpg . Never went more than 65mph . Stayed most of the time around 60mph due to traffic.
Very interesting video! I’m thinking of getting myself into a Tacoma access cab, V6. Basically as my daily and also use it to tow my Aluma 15’ with my X3.
Great idea, strap the 2cv from the chassi because that suspension isn't going anywhere! 😂🙄
Payload on that Tacoma is most likely 5,600lb. I have a 2022 TRD offroad, 4x4, short bed & my payload matches that sticker of 990lbs. My max towing # is 5,600. The 6,400 is likely for a long bed 2x4. See if you can tow that up I-70 from Denver above 40mph & I'll be impressed.
They need to slap the big boy from the Tundra in that thing and really kill the class! If the Tundra can go from like 17 to 23-24 then the Tacoma will probably hit 28-30mpg!
I used my 19 TRD pro to tow 2000ish lbs from Connecticut to Idaho. Got a cool 11.5 mpg average, but it carried and handled just fine! As always, never knew what gear to be in...
The automatic in this generation Tacoma is notorious for poor shift calibration. Constantly gear hops. I find it unbearable.
11.5 with only 2000lbs? Pretty bad
@@fishinfool63 yea 3rd gens are quite underpowered. Pretty much a glorified sienna powerplant
I own a 22 Tacoma and on the highway when it’s windy it is a bit annoying. If you put it in S5 it does much better
I am going to need to tow about 4500 pounds 1000g propane tank smoker. Likely not super long distances, but long enough that I want to make I get the right truck. My heart says Taco but IDK if that makes sense. Opinions?
I tow with a 2019 Sport. The only issue is the cargo. 950lbs on mine 😔
Now my question is are you 1 mile above sea level? 😵💫🤪🙏☘️
"Le" bumblebee 🧐
The serious issue I have with these is the 21 gallon fuel tank capacity. Why on earth is it so small? My 07 F-150 has a 36 gallon tank and on the highway I go 500 miles without filling up. I can't imagine towing with the Tacoma and having to constantly get gas. I would love to replace my old truck but maybe I will go with a 4Runner?
if my choice were any toyota vs a horse, I would relearn how to shoe a horse!
TFL to Toyota: "Hey, we'll review your Sequoia and Tacoma under one condition. Both have to be Solar Octane!"
bright colors in thumbnail = more clicks. It's sad but true
I towed 9,200lb trailer and about 1,000lbs in the bed with my Toyota Tacoma all the way to Arizona over days. The Toyota Tacoma can handle a lot of abuse no problem
I’m not sure how different the Tacoma odo is compared to the 4Runner, but on the 4Runner you can push the knob on the cluster and that will bring up your trip odo.
Pass on the Tacoma. If you’re off-roading sure. But just cruising highways or towing might as well get a full size with a v8. You’ll get the same or better mileage.
And space, for about the same price.
If you are towing in a congested area smaller trucks make maneuvering easier, otherwise get a full size.
Midsize are also easier to park, fit in most garages, easier to wash and keep clean, easier to work on, easier to get in and out of, easier to load things in the bed, easier to get dogs in/out of. Also I just bought a brand new TRD off-road 4 door for $40k. WAY cheaper than any full size with same features. This is my second Tacoma, bought first one new in 2012 and sold it last year for more than I paid new! That won’t happen with full size either lol.
@@ajr5195 easier to wash!😂
I have a Tacoma and an f150. The f150 rides way better and has power when you need it and… it gets the same fuel mileage. I’m only speaking from experience. If you can’t park it… don’t own it. 😂
@@westeed1 👍👍
I would tow with a Toyota anytime of the day
It looks like you don't want to leave not more
Super Ike
Can you try a tow with an SR5?
Well it isn’t gonna be a rocket ship isn’t it a n/a v6
The Toyota Tacoma where you get the power of a 4 cylinder and the fuel consumption of a V8 with the comfort of an old English roadster.
I’ve always liked this truck, but it’s not comfortable and it lacks power and refinement. For some dumb reason though I still like it, but sure if I’d ever buy one.
Depends if ur looking for a large luxury sedan with a bed and higher ground clerance like most of the trucks have become. The tacoma still has that old scholl truck like ruggedness. It hasnt become feminized.
@@equalizer2233 wow, so they finally took out the tampon dispenser in the Tacoma?
You get the power of a v6 and the fuel consumption of a v6 in the taco don't know what you're talking about
@@chanoleyva8584 a full size truck with a V8 averages 17 mpg. The Taco with a V6 also averages 17 mpg.
Hi TFL. I love the TRD Pro! Question... when is the blackout lifted on the Honda Pilot?
Before you sell the Bronco make a video on door removal
*Taco vs Two Golf Carts
What I don't like is the tacoma doors close like beer cans
How does it compare to the cheap ram
Great V-6 engine, but it's getting a little old now (I think). At a mile above sea level, the lack of torque was evident when towing near max load. The proposed new engine with forced induction should help tremendously.
While it may have more power, I doubt it will be as reliable.
Was looking for a new truck a couple of years ago. Test drove a Tacoma and immediately crossed it off the list. I'm not sure what was worse, the cramped interior or noisy weak drive train.
The interior really kills it for me. I’m over 6ft tall and just can’t get comfortable in my buddie’s taco. I had no idea they were so small inside, they are as big as an old Chevy 1500 on the outside.
In general, towing such a trailer by the Tacoma is a bit pointless except for the occasional tow when you have no alternative.
The Tundra - whether with a 4.6 or 5.7 V8 - will do it faster, more economically, safer and with better visibility to the rear.
In this setup, any Tacoma advantage of being narrower, smaller, etc. is irrelevant when towing a 102" wide trailer.
I'm curious - this is a question for Tundra users (not Tacoma) - is there a big difference in stability when pulling a Tundra trailer with a short wheelbase (regular cab) compared to a longer one?
I had both. Couldn’t tell any diff at all.
It needs a supercharger and it’ll solve the torque.
Where is the tow haul button
On the 2005-2015 2nd gen ones it was on the tip of the shifter.
Glad to see Toyota proving all the keyboard engineers wrong!
Cute cars 😂
Yeah the low payload, lack of towing accessories, price, and power train options has made the Tacoma a truck that isn't worth it. Honestly I think this revamp is going to hurt themselves in the long run. I don't see them changing enough to keep the Tacoma relevant
Was it ever relevant?
@@paulhunter9613 honestly it kinda lost it's ability to compete long ago. I used to really like those trucks but now they're a joke.
I had a 22 Taco offroad version. I wish the stupid thing had the guts to go anywhere. I sold it for more than I paid for it.
Looks like it did better than the electric trucks.
two of the lightest cars ever put 2 ev's on lets see how it does
Obviously that would put it over the max tow capabilities. Why would you go over that? What’s your point? You can overload any truck you chose; it proves nothing.
I'm just surprised Andre can even fit in this thing.
I remember when you didn't speak english in these videos
Did Someone forget Towing Safety and X The Chains...?
Which is better...crossing or not? A lot of debate on that.
@@mikefoehr235 I’m not sure why one wouldn’t cross chains. Doing so creates a cradle for the tongue should it somehow pop off the ball, which better maintains control of the trailer.
@@jamesbeaman6337 👍
Not really a challenge considering those two cars weigh less than an average 2022 car
Another Disappointing outcome for Toyota
10mpg towing a light load 6k? My 6.2l gas F250 gets better towing 10k. Empty, the taco is better.
My Tundra does that or better and I have a v8
There's something to be said about the ease of towing using a larger engine. Especially considering this weight is about maxed out for the truck's towing capacity. These trucks were never made with towing as a priority. But, then again, if you're regularly hauling that much, you're much better off with a larger truck in the first place.
The new Tacoma won't hold a candle to the ranger raptor. If they are the same price with the hybrid, me and many others will take the twin turbo 6 every day of the week
Toyota is really going to miss the mark putting a turbo on the Tacoma. Make it a hybrid first
Actually the new 2022 ranger is already released just not in the US
Yes, our "new" Ranger is coming as a 2024 model.
Tacoma is great for adventure type stuff bringing dirt bikes to a track or kayak to the water, camping remotely ect. It’s not a good choice for towing much of anything.
For $50,000 I need a v8
Yes 2022 and you towing 2 car back in 1922
Better off towing the truck with the Fiat.
Be careful throwing "new" Tacoma around right now. I got all excited for new info on the 4th gen when I saw the title.
Good point - thank you.
*half cars
It’s not ok with a truck that expensive
bummer the world is ending soon.
You guys sure love those ugly, outdated trucks.
You sure love shitty trucks that break down along
Well done and well said Andrey!! It just is what it is. All of the next gen mid sized trucks will be impressive. The most powerful Nissan, may be the least powered by 2024!! Go figure,,,,. Looking forward to the high output Colorado/Canyon models!! That torque!!!
4cylinder Tacoma? How do people feel about that?
The 2.7L 4cyl. is 159hp. It's archaically underpowered for the vehicle.
@palebeachbum
Had a '11 single cab 4x4 manual 4cyl new.
Definitely low on power! Even worse with AC. About 22k clutch started slipping (was a known issue). Did like the 4x4 reg look
Ended up trading it for a '12 frontier V6 6spd
@@stevedvorak6188 have you been happier with the Frontier? I hear they're a good truck. Seems like they're underrated while Tacoma gets way more praise than it deserves at this point. I hear quality has been continually going down for years.
@@palebeachbum
Was much happier with the truck! V6 an 6spd was a big upgrade, overall truck. Only issue I had was rear axle seals..(common)?
Put 143k on it B4 totalled out by deer back in 2020. In a '21 gladiator 6spd now since.
@@stevedvorak6188 How are liking the gladiator. I hear reviewers stating there noticable wind noise on the highway as the only real negative
would love to see this retested with a 5000+lb travel trailer. People say wind resistance is the real killer with these smaller trucks.
Those things are definitely a challenge. The last large trailer I had that I towed behind som F150s I owned was 31 ft overall, 5100 lbs dry weight and a V nose. It supposedly reduced the frontage by 40%. It really did make a difference over a 27 foot standard no’s travel trailer. I was towing it closer to 7,000 lbs with all the gear and water/propane in it. The nose was the kitchen, so we were always closer to 15% tongue weight. Aerodynamics are a big thing. Like towing with the Gladiator and the 3.6. That’s a challenge with anything past 5,000 lbs, especially with an enclosed trailer. I think the Tacoma does better. Put the Diesel in the Gladiator and it will tow the max weight with ease.
I’m thinking the new Tacoma will do very well. He EcoBoost Ranger tows the max with no real issues due to all that torque and rather wide torque band the 2.3 generates. It’s not peaky like the 3.5 in the Tacoma. The. Next few years with mid size trucks will be fun!!
I have pulled a 17 foot enclosed trailer that weighed 4200. Yeah, wind resistance is a total bear. My taco is a great truck but when I get up to speed with my 2 horse or bike trailer and the wind get going, you feel it
Drag is an absolute performance killer. Plus enclosed trailers catch a lot more crosswind, which can make a windy day a bit of a white knuckle drive lol.
@@forrest225 A properly setup weight distribution and sway control system will take the white out of your knuckles.
The only time I've had an exciting time towing with my Taco has been with trailers that I couldn't get my Blue Ox hitch brackets onto.
I had a 2017 TRD off road long bed crew cab. Liked the look of the truck but hated the drivetrain. Also once I had my second daughter it just got way too tight. Can't stress enough the motor felt weak and under powered. The transmission shifted early I'm guessing putting mpgs over performance. Purchased an Ecoboost F150, couldn't be happier. No comparison.
The F150 is indeed a much larger truck with plentiful power. It's in a different class.
Drive train is fine, nothing wrong with it
I wonder if it's an TRD Off-Road thing, and the other models have a different throttle map.
The throttle response on my TRD-OR is tuned very differently from most cars and trucks. It kind of reminds me of my hydrostatic tractor, actually.
The slow, incremental throttle response gives you control, but you have to be aggressive on the throttle to get it to move quickly. It is not something I do naturally, and have to be deliberate about when I want the Taco to move instead of tip-toe around.
I have not actually looked, but I assume the Taco has a throttle-by-wire system, not a cable, so the map of physical throttle position to effective throttle position is programmable.
If you look at some of the aftermarket tuner / reflash stuff, some of it adds like 6hp, but the owners are all "OMG! It totally changed my truck! It is so much more responsive!" I suspect is this is because the tuners change the throttle position map.
I find the Taco has adequate power for what I do with it - a mix of daily driving and towing near the rated capacity - you just have to make you demands clear when you want power delivered.
The clunky transmission however... Well, that is just part of the charm =D
@@TFLtruck Its also a Ford 🤮
We need to see this setup on a super Ike run!!