They say with a 12 string, you spend half of the time tuning, and the other half playing out of tune. Great job on that setup, I'm guessing it took a little longer than you were hoping.
Hahaha I can understand that saying lol! So far so good with this one. Tuning stability seems fairly solid so far. Yup this 21 minute video was edited and trimmed down from 106 minutes hahahaha!
Real nice job on this one, J! (You need some Supertramp in your repertoire for 12 string stuff now that all your buddies with one will line up for you to set them up!)
Great vid. Love your enthusiasm. I have seen suggestions to tune the strings one step down and use a capo on the second fret to help with the 12 strings tension on the neck. I don't have one so I couldn't test it. - Your luthier skills are well represented - :)
@@Acreustic yeah read that too... But if you set them up correctly, you don't need to do that. This one now plays like a six string. Straight neck, low action and the intonation is almost perfect.... To get it any better it would need a different bridge😉
Man oh man. All the geetars you set up sound great! Maybe it's not the guitar , maybe it's you!You played my favourite song there Copperhead Road. I love it. Your vids are awesome, can't wait for the net one. Ya 65 years old and I still like to rock.
Hahaha thanks Rainer! Rock & Roll never dies brother! Keep rockin! Just got my WestCreek TT-20 Tele in the mail today... Will do an unboxing vid after work today if home life permits 😆
Man, it looks like you're having a ball with that thing.I have a 12 string acoustic electric.That I have from plan but not tuning and definitely not having to change strings on it
Oh, come on you parked your car under those strings I know you did just kidding Jayman good job yeah those strains are pretty high. Almost got nosebleed. They’re looking at them.
Lubricating the nut won't help much. The retainer bar still applies pressure on the strings and they'll go out of tune if you bend them. Just... don't do bends on this ;)
Nope definitely not a bending type guitar haha... Lubricating helps cut down on friction in the nut when tuning. If the strings move smoothly through the nut when tuning to pitch, they tend to hold tune better when playing or strumming hard 🙂
Had one of those in tele style. Could not get it setup correctly over a years trying. The bridge style is terrible for intonation of 2nd octave strings. I tore it down and saved my upgraded parts.
Yeah the bridge is definitely a weak point. The only one I couldn't dial in was the low E. To be perfect, the low E saddles needs to come back a little more but the Octave E Saddle needs to move forward but it's already maxed out... So I just split the difference. Only noticeable once you reach the 12th fret. Other than that it's pretty good and it plays great 😃👍!
Now go listen to some Blind Willie McTell on the Yazoo Label (the early years).The best twelve player along with Leo Kottke...................................
Yup I did. The only issue was the low E string. I had to split the difference between the Low E and its octave string. Low needed to lengthen more and Octave needed to shorten but octave string adjustment was maxed forward...
@@ShredCo thanks. Yeah not the best bridges for sure ... I wonder if there are replacement 12 string electric guitar bridges that one could upgrade and that would intonate better?🤔
1) 6.5 lbs?!? Seriously?!? For a poplar body, that seems EXTREMELY light-I’m thinking it must be a semi-hollow thinline-style or something. 2) At the 14:00 mark - 20w?!? Does that mean this set has a wound G string?!? That will definitely affect how you intonate the G string versus an unwound G. 3) Congratulations on getting that thing in tune-many 12 string guitars are a NIGHTMARE to keep in tune for very long!!!! 4) If you’re looking for some 12-string songs for your repertoire, there’s always Led Zeppelin’s “Stairway To Heaven,” or The Eagles’ “Hotel California,” of course… Or if you’re looking for something simpler, you could always look at George Harrison’s Rickenbacker 12-string riffs on “You Can’t Do That,” “What You’re Doing,” and “Ticket To Ride.”
Haha thanks for the song suggestions, but this is going back to it's owner 😉 Cool guitar but not for me... 6 strings are enough hahaha! It's a solid body but yeah extremely light! I think the head with the 12 tuners weighs as much as the body on this thing hahahaha! Yes a would G string and yes intonation was different. Saddle had to be moved forward more so than what I'm used to. So far, tuning stability seems very good with the new set up although the new strings will surely stretch a bit before they settle.😃
@@sbrown1953 That seems very likely to me! I just don’t see how a poplar body could possibly be that light without some form of chambering. J-MAN, did you happen to see what kind of wood grain was in the neck pocket when you had the neck off?
They say with a 12 string, you spend half of the time tuning, and the other half playing out of tune. Great job on that setup, I'm guessing it took a little longer than you were hoping.
Hahaha I can understand that saying lol!
So far so good with this one. Tuning stability seems fairly solid so far.
Yup this 21 minute video was edited and trimmed down from 106 minutes hahahaha!
Thanks for setting up my 12 string J-Man! It plays like a $3000 guitar!
Hey Moe the man!
My pleasure buddy, thanks for trusting me with it, and letting me share it with other viewers.
Much appreciated!
J-man it looks like you were having a lot of fun playing!
You were grinning the whole time you were playing 😁
Hahaha yup cool guitar for sure! Not something I'd spend money on personally but it's a pretty unique beast!
Real nice job on this one, J! (You need some Supertramp in your repertoire for 12 string stuff now that all your buddies with one will line up for you to set them up!)
Hahaha! I'm not to worried about a rush of 12 string set ups in the near future hahaha but I will have a listen to some Super Tramp!
Cheers Cal!
Give a Little Bit there's a quintessential 12-string song. Fun to play.
Great stuff
Has a nice sound. I had one and rarely changed strings because I didn`t want to Haaa
Hahaha I understand. Not as bad as I expected... But the tuning is is a pain hahaha
Great vid. Love your enthusiasm. I have seen suggestions to tune the strings one step down and use a capo on the second fret to help with the 12 strings tension on the neck. I don't have one so I couldn't test it. - Your luthier skills are well represented - :)
@@Acreustic yeah read that too... But if you set them up correctly, you don't need to do that. This one now plays like a six string. Straight neck, low action and the intonation is almost perfect.... To get it any better it would need a different bridge😉
Man oh man. All the geetars you set up sound great! Maybe it's not the guitar , maybe it's you!You played my favourite song there Copperhead Road. I love it. Your vids are awesome, can't wait for the net one. Ya 65 years old and I still like to rock.
Hahaha thanks Rainer! Rock & Roll never dies brother!
Keep rockin!
Just got my WestCreek TT-20 Tele in the mail today... Will do an unboxing vid after work today if home life permits 😆
You'll be adding Xanadu to your band's playlist in no time!
Hahahaha!
Man, it looks like you're having a ball with that thing.I have a 12 string acoustic electric.That I have from plan but not tuning and definitely not having to change strings on it
They are a different beast for sure! Hahaha!
Oh, come on you parked your car under those strings I know you did just kidding Jayman good job yeah those strains are pretty high. Almost got nosebleed. They’re looking at them.
Hahaha! All good now though😉
Technically aren’t all guitars handmade at one point in time
Hahaha I guess but this one is CUSTOM Hand Made! 😉
WOW!
👍😉
Lubricating the nut won't help much. The retainer bar still applies pressure on the strings and they'll go out of tune if you bend them. Just... don't do bends on this ;)
Nope definitely not a bending type guitar haha... Lubricating helps cut down on friction in the nut when tuning. If the strings move smoothly through the nut when tuning to pitch, they tend to hold tune better when playing or strumming hard 🙂
Had one of those in tele style. Could not get it setup correctly over a years trying. The bridge style is terrible for intonation of 2nd octave strings. I tore it down and saved my upgraded parts.
Yeah the bridge is definitely a weak point. The only one I couldn't dial in was the low E. To be perfect, the low E saddles needs to come back a little more but the Octave E Saddle needs to move forward but it's already maxed out... So I just split the difference. Only noticeable once you reach the 12th fret. Other than that it's pretty good and it plays great 😃👍!
Wow, it J Sambora! Great job on that puppy!! Are you gonna take it to a gig😬
Rock on, or should I say, Folk on!💥💥💪
Now go listen to some Blind Willie McTell on the Yazoo Label (the early years).The best twelve player along with Leo Kottke...................................
Hahaha guitar got picked up by its owner today! I'm now 6 strings short haha!
Did you intonate it?
Yup I did. The only issue was the low E string. I had to split the difference between the Low E and its octave string. Low needed to lengthen more and Octave needed to shorten but octave string adjustment was maxed forward...
@@j-man9457 It sounded good but I knew the bridge would be maxed out on some strings. Well done, really enjoyable vids!
@@ShredCo thanks. Yeah not the best bridges for sure ... I wonder if there are replacement 12 string electric guitar bridges that one could upgrade and that would intonate better?🤔
@@j-man9457 It could do but it's close enough.
1) 6.5 lbs?!? Seriously?!? For a poplar body, that seems EXTREMELY light-I’m thinking it must be a semi-hollow thinline-style or something.
2) At the 14:00 mark - 20w?!? Does that mean this set has a wound G string?!? That will definitely affect how you intonate the G string versus an unwound G.
3) Congratulations on getting that thing in tune-many 12 string guitars are a NIGHTMARE to keep in tune for very long!!!!
4) If you’re looking for some 12-string songs for your repertoire, there’s always Led Zeppelin’s “Stairway To Heaven,” or The Eagles’ “Hotel California,” of course… Or if you’re looking for something simpler, you could always look at George Harrison’s Rickenbacker 12-string riffs on “You Can’t Do That,” “What You’re Doing,” and “Ticket To Ride.”
Haha thanks for the song suggestions, but this is going back to it's owner 😉
Cool guitar but not for me... 6 strings are enough hahaha!
It's a solid body but yeah extremely light! I think the head with the 12 tuners weighs as much as the body on this thing hahahaha!
Yes a would G string and yes intonation was different. Saddle had to be moved forward more so than what I'm used to.
So far, tuning stability seems very good with the new set up although the new strings will surely stretch a bit before they settle.😃
Maybe it's Paulownia, a very light wood, often used on inexpensive Import guitars?
@@sbrown1953 don't know... Looks like pine but there are no knots so not sure... A very light colored wood for sure...
@@sbrown1953 That seems very likely to me! I just don’t see how a poplar body could possibly be that light without some form of chambering. J-MAN, did you happen to see what kind of wood grain was in the neck pocket when you had the neck off?
@@j-man9457 Haha! Looks like you were reading my mind as I was typing!