Just look at the falmer, poor stature, pale skin from hanging out in basements too long, unkempt appearance with poor personal hygiene, snow elves confirmed as incels.
@@stevefrench7512 That's right, especially because it's not like we'll see live snow elves that could offer any sort of counter evidence "cough" Dawnguard"cough" joking of course. But still better to be a falmer then part of the thalmor
1 Neravarine. The guy is probably what Roosterteeth based their Red Vs. Blue character named "Agent Maine" on. And that guy survived five shots to the throat.
Nords that dont die in battle and just die a regular death go to Aetherius like everyone else unless they were evil and worshipped Daedras. Sovngarde is just one realm in Aetherius, like the Far Shores for Redguards and Sand Behind the Stars for Khajit. Aetherius is analogous to what we would consider heaven the same way the Oblivion would be analogous to hell.
It's more akin to the Greek underworld as it has: different regions for different beliefs, such as Aetherius matching up with the fields of Asphodel, where regulars go, Sovengard matching Elysium (though it matches more closely with Valhalla, mirroring the Ancient Norse the nords are based on, but that's not what this is about) where only the best of the best go, and so on and so forth.
Pretty sure any Nord who has proven him/herself on the battlefield without being killed or just lived an honorable life in general will be sent to Sovngarde regardless of how they die. It would be quite ridiculous for a great Nord warrior to end his life by intentionally perishing on the battlefield, just so he can enter Sovngarde
The first one is interesting, but I have another theory. The Priests of Kynareth are supposed to be healers, right? So suppose Nazeem and Ahlam had lived together at Wintersand Manor and had a child. The child gets deathly ill and they ask one of the priests of Kynareth to try and save the child. Acolyte Jensen tries his best. He is at their house round the clock, Ahlam even gives him a key, so that he can check in on the child at any time. Despite Jensen's best efforts the child dies. This might account for some of Nazeem's bitterness and Ahlam's distance.
And for the lack of a house, actually! If your child died in that house, you probably wouldn't want to go back any time soon. If by any chance, they couldn't sell the house, they might have just 1) abandoned it or 2) burned it to the ground 3) something else that would rid of the house. I have no idea if the Breezehome has a backstory (the lore in this game is too much to keep track of lmao), but it's big enough for a family of three and close enough that Acolyte could visit whenever he wanted to. Obviously, it's not a manor, though. It would also make sense to stay inside the city, even though they have the farm just outside, for protection. Renaming the house would make sense after something like that, especially if the parents left due to the tragic memories. Or maybe Wintersand is just a vacation home and we're desperately grasping for straws, haha
Hey Nate, I’m late to this video, but I wanted to suggest a thing people may not know yet, not even you. In the Thieves Guild quest line, on the quest to find and kill Karliah with Mercer Frey in the same place the previous place the previous Guild Master, Gallus, was murdered. Plot twist, Mercer was the bad guy all along and Karliah saves your hide. Well, questioning how I got out so fast, I reentered the dungeon, heading back to the main room where the quest takes you out of it, and in it you can find the skeleton of Gallus on the stairs, just out of view, along with a hidden exit.
Molag Bal says "there are worse masters than I" at the end of ESO main story quest, not in the TES IV: Oblivion. Also, why go to mehrunes Dagon shrine, this would be the second time you got it confused.
@@mordantkitten That's like going to a graveyard and honoring a random person's grave instead of your grandparent's because it looks better. Not everything is about aesthetics.
Maybe Nazeem is the one with the affair, “going to Dragonreach” just to pass by and see that guy, and his wife just hangs around the place in an effort to catch him lol
“Ysgramor” makes sense as a Draconic name, as names in dragon almost always have 3 syllables. “Al-du-in”, “Par-thur-nax”, you get the picture. “Ys-gra-mor” could be a fusion of Ancient Nordic (“Ys” and “Mor”) and Draconic (“Gra”). So his name could mean “Ysmor who Battles”, as “Gra” means battle in Draconic.
a bit late to the party, but i think there are indeed 3 dragon shout word that inspired the name of Ysgramor. "Ys" can be "iiz" meaning "ice", "gra" comes from "grah" which means indeed "battle", and finally "mor" that could come from "moro" which means "glory" or "morah" which means "focus/concentration/thought"
@@NMG.11 Ice-Battle-Glory does summarize Ysgramor pretty concisely. Came from Atmora, fought the Snow Elves in a war of vengeance, and built the great edifice of Windhelm. Possibly while working alongside the Dragon Cult.
The Greybeards are not pacifists. They may seem as such, but by no means are they pacifistic. They 'only Speak in True Need', or in other words, use the Voice, or Thu'um, when necessary. They Spoke when Tiber Septim came, they Spoke when the Last Dragonborn came, and will use the Voice if you should attack them. I imagine they would use the Voice if Skyrim was invaded by outside forces (aka the Aldmeri Dominion). To paraphrase another famous master, "A Greybeard uses the Voice for defense, never for attack."
Thats essentially pacifism. Also the Aldmeri Dominion are already occupying Skyrim with Imperial sanctioned raiding teams rounding up Talos worshippers.
Fallon says in his curing ritual, “I call upon the oblivion realms, home to those which are not our ancestors.” Maybe this is him siphoning power from Vaermina
I also believe that the black soul gem is used as they need to be filled with human souls and vampires don't have souls so perhaps this used to restore your soul and vaermina removes the disease
@@joshuawright4198 But Undead in Skyrim have souls, and can be Soul Trapped. Vampirism, at least the common kind, manifests as a virus. Maybe the ritual only transfers your disease of undeath to the soul in the gem, and it has to be a soul of equal value. Theoretically, you could cure a fox of vampirism with a petty soul gem, as it would be a soul of equal value.
I have just one thing to object in your Greybeard theory. When we go to Sovengarde, don't we meet Jurgen Windcaller ? You know, the guy who founded the Greybeards. The OG pacifist and voice worshipper ? If he can be let into Sovengarde then why can't his followers also be let in ? A counter to my objection may be that he may have died in a battle of some sort. But then again, would the Greybeards really follow his teachings if his last action negated everything they stood for ?
It could be that Kyne, being the wife of Shor, personally insisted Jurgen be allowed into Sovngarde as he recognized the Nords had been abusing the Voice, and taught them to cease their heretical abuse of the Thu'um. It was Jurgen who realized Kyne had punished the Nords for their abuse of this gift; it makes sense for Kyne to personally reward him.
Yeah, but he was a warrior before he became pacifist. There's a bit of evidence that if your deeds are great enough, dying on the battlefield isn't explicitly needed for entry. This would give leniency to those who were stabbed in the back or just caught a disease.
First there is no record of how he died. Pacifists can die in battle. And I would imagine any warrior who was as devout as he and awesome enough to have survived the Battle of Red Mountain got a free pass.
I think the teachings of the Greybeards regarding "pacifism" are only concerned with the use of the Thu'um. You can be a warrior, just don't use it for the "glory of men".
@@PerroMoshero Im pretty sure that they are not only pacifists in the way of the word, but in general. Remeber how outraged Agnir is when you have them be the counclers for the peace treaty? And when you talk to him, he even says that its maybe just better to let go and let alduin destryo the world, instead of fighting against him. So i cannot imagine The graybeards to use any sort of violence.
The Ysgramore theory was pretty interesting. But the Fallion one beats it. Nice knowing Bethesda made someone but dragonborn be a Daedra's champion too. And it makes a lot of sense! Great digging as always, Nate. Awesome work.
@@brooklynhurd8328 i know i know!! I learned this in Nate's recent video! :D But i meant.... you kill him, you become her new champion. So there is that. But Vaermina chose Fallion sooo.... :P
"Nord belief holds that the honored dead live forever in sovngarde" this is some loading screen text in game and I take it to mean as long as you are remembered in some way after death you can get in without the need to die in battle
I kinda feel like Nazeem and his wife was left in the game by accident... Why Nazeem doesn't have a farm or a House. I always thought based off the evidence he was supposed to be cut content.
The idea that it could've been possible to have a Dark Brotherhood contract to kill Nazeem... Nobody would ever destroy the Brotherhood anymore once they knew they could get paid for killing Nazeem!
Falion is one of my favorite characters, it's weird, he's a vampire specialist and haven't noticed Alva and Movarth's plan... What's his business on that circle, and that circle is where You can cure your vampirism... Maybe i have missed something, but thats is strange
Maybe it's because Movarth actually made a pact with Falion, deciding not to attack the villagers in exchange of not exposing secrets, then Movarth instead proceed to slowly slave all of residents
@@MeadowBrook2000 Maybe, but I don't know, The guy is a master conjurer, I think a Minor Vampire Coven woudn't pose much Threat to him... And looks like he wanted to keep a normal life with his adopted daughter, so he have a reason to keep Morthal safe of a major Threat... It's really Strange
Hi Nate, I'm not sure if you already covered these for your "10 Tiny Details," but here goes: 1. In the Dark Brotherhood questline, when Astrid asks the Dragonborn to talk to Delvin Mallory, the latter's dialogue changes depending on whether the Dragonborn has joined the Thieves' Guild prior. 2. In the quest "Lost to the Ages," and upon finding Katria's body, if you steal her armor her ghost would reprimand you.
Nate! I just experienced a random encounter in Skyrim!! The madwoman you meet after Sheogorath’s quest can ACTUALLY be found roaming around before hand. She tells the player not to go to the Blue Palace, that “Master is on vacation,” and to not “listen to Dervenin.” Just thought you’d like to know. She says other things as well. 😀
The "500 companions" is probably a case of Nordic hyperbole, very similar to the book "The Guardian and the Traitor" where they say that Solstheim literally split from the mainland because of Vahlok and Miraak's battle. What I believe is that the highest ranking of the Nordic warriors were classified as "The 500," but that these 500 had many men below them to aid in their battles. I don't doubt that dragons might have been involved with the return, since the Dragon Cult had been established long before the Nords returned to Skyrim, but the dragons complacency and indifference toward those who worshiped them makes me think they didn't have a very direct role in the eradication of the snow elves. Don't forget that men were still fighting snow elves into the first area, according to Skorm Crag-Strider's journal in Forelhost. An eradication of an entire species is a long, slow process, and it might have taken the ancient Nords a few centuries to drive the snow elves back. Remember, don't read everything in the Elder Scrolls verbatim or as gospel. What I love about the series is that everything is from the perspective of an unreliable narrator. We don't know what's true and what isn't, and it's up to us to fill in the blanks.
MasterSkyrim1000 (this is directed at “The Guardian And The Traitor”) I wouldn’t be surprised if the battle of Vahlok and Miraak caused Solstheim to split from the mainland, Thu’ums are extremely powerful and are able to bend reality, and if the Thu’um is given to one of the strongest mortals on Tamriel, you bet they’re going to be able to mess some shit up.
Yes! That's one of the best details about the way the lore is presented: the inconsistencies, depending on the biases of the "authors" of this or that book found in the world. It's an incredible amount to keep track of. It's also a very clever out for the devs if they want to change something in a later game.
If we look into ysgramor having roots in the dragon language and evolving into ysgramor it could be it was originally "iizgrahmoro", meaning ice battle glory, perhaps a battle won somewhere cold, like skyrim? Something to thing about
Found a mod called, "teleport anywhere to Nazeem", and I love the idea of just driving him insane by always teleporting to him no matter where he is or what he's doing.
Everyone seems to forget about Jyygalag, the Daedric Prince of Order and, at one point, the other half of Sheogorath. After the Shivering Isles DLC for Oblivion, Jyyg gets split off from Sheogorath and goes off from the Shivering Isles to gather power again.
A few videos ago I commented that Nate keeps confusing Molag Bal with Mehrunes Dagon. And he has done this several times with them in several videos. And now in this video, he keeps panning over Dagon's shrine while talking about Bal. So here's my conspiracy question: is Nate doing this on purpose to trigger the die-hard Elder Scrolls lore nerds, or if he just being stupid/not caring? It's too consistent to be minor slip-ups.
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Imagine if they did go through with putting the Windsand Manor in the game and a Quest was put in concerning this Love Triangle. It would have allowed the player to either help Nazeem who suspects his wife or help his wife put an end to Nazeem in a few interesting ways. This quest could have interlinked with the Dark Brotherhood questline and allowed the player to finish it in a plethora of ways. At the end you’d be given Windsand Manor and either Nazeem or his wife would leave and go pursue other things.
Or you know, somehow get one of those transparent draugr from Labyrinthian randomly spawn behind you when you zone in Whiterun, and only targeting Nazeem and killing him before actually fighting the guards.
About Ysgramor, there was a book which talks about Azidahl assisting Ysgramor and his five hundred companions with enchanted armour and weapons. Some text also say Ysgramor Road the back of a conjured thunder bear, so I suppose he had some help from the Clever men (mages as they were described in the old era). Conclusion, it was perhaps a combination of Azidahl, the clever men and the intervention of the dragons as you mentioned in the video.
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My theory: Ysgramor and his Nords were all half giants at the time. Not only that, when he says "500 Companions" he meant 500 Jarls, Warlords, Chieftains, Generals, and Nobles from Atmora each with their own personal armies. Also Dragons and a plethora of OTHER Warbeasts, and maybe giants from Atmora.
For the last one they could have used the eye of magnus , it is in one of the first nord strongholds and was there when the nords got ransacked by the elves or so it is implied
To be fair, 500 nords vs a entire race and winning is not the the most outlandish thing in the elder scrolls. Hell, it not even the most outlandish thing to happen in real history.
Nazeem is legit gay. If you get naked in front of him, he asks you to put clothes on because you're making him "unseasonably warm", but ONLY uses that line for male dragon borns.
From what I read from in-game books, Azzhidal enchanted the Nord's weapons that were used against the elves. And we know for a fact that he had mastered it to its peak
In the way of Falion I believe he is the champion of an unknown Daedra the Daedric Prince of Mysteries. Not the Prince of Nightmares. I think that whilst teaching at the College of Winterhold he was visited by the Daedra of Mysteries. That is how he saw the planes of Oblivion and met a Dwemer, he was shown the mysteries of the forgotten. To be clear mysteries is not a factor of Hermaus Mora. So all knowledge forgotten or not known is not owned by Hermaus but the Daedra of Mystery. Surely an unknown champion to an unknown Daedra is quite fitting? The cure for Vampirism would be a mystery revealed to Falion and the Daedra of mystery would use nightmares to throw people of his trail to keep it a *mystery*. Anyway that's my two cents hope you found it interesting.
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Mehrunes Dagon not Molag Bal, this is the second time I've seen you mix these two up. Only thing that was Molag Bal was the creation of the vampires, you could have used shots of him from ESO if you didnt want to show his shrines from skyrim.
Nice!!! Just got back into Skyrim with a paladin build that will bring the undead to their knees! So keep up the awesome content dude! It drives me to keep playing, even after 7 years
I wanted to add something to the Greybeard subject, If what you/we speculate is true, then Jurgen Windcaller wouldn't be in Sovngarde (?) I also wanted to add the following quote to when the play speaks with him when in Sovngarde. "My disciples still follow the difficult path - the Way of the Voice is neither wide, nor easy. But if you stray from the wisdom then to Sovngarde you will not return." Though, I could be wrong because he was a War Leader during the First Empire of the Nords... so idk. Just something I thought I'd bring up :Analyses Cap: Love the vid man
I have an idea for the 500 nords theory some of the nords might not have been nords at all but red guard because when creating your character in Skyrim it says “Redguards are the most talented warriors in Tamriel” mic drop
Kodlak Whiteman tells you the following in the Companions quest line: "The Companions are nearly five thousand years old. This matter of beastblood has only troubled us for a few hundred. One of my predecessors was a good, but short-sighted man. He made a bargain with the witches of Glenmoril Coven. If the Companions would hunt in the name of their lord, Hircine, we would be granted great power."
WAIT!! You forgot that an nord mage who became a dragon priest who used to live with the snow elves and learn and master elven magic and help ysgmore to wipe them out. This can also be know and found in skyrims dlc dragonborn
Grey Beards seems to me that they represent 'the Old Man of the Mountain'/'King of The World'/'King of Agartha or Agarti', leader of the group of Sages that oversee the Spiritual Development of the World. They are the Way into that Realm, guardians or caretakers so to speak. Just as in game you have to get past these to speak with their leader Parthanax who lives at the summit, when you do you travel time and space to fulfill your destiny and go to Sovenguard.
The reason I think behind the 500 companions against the snow elves is with the help of Ahzidal There is a book called "Ahzidal's decent" where he was a great mage mastering the elven ways of magic apparently his homeland of saarthal was attacked by the snow elves after leaving to study more on other provinces this filled him with rage and after he learned that ysgramor was planning a revenge attack on the elves he volunteered to help him by enchanting the armors and weapons of ysgramors army the 500 companions with the elven magic he learned throughout his life basically using the elves own magic against them eventually winning and sending the elves into near Extinction...
I think that the unrevealed Daedric Princes thing is referencing the Demiprinces like Fa-Nuit-Hen or Morihaus. Note the term "Demiprince" also refers to what we'd generally demigods. Thus why Morihaus (the apparent son of an Aedra) is counted as one of them
@@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou That's too good for him. Personally, I prefer to soul trap him, and then toss the gem with his soul in it into the Soul Cairn or some other dark corner of the Universe.
Hey how's it going Nate, it's Lola here! I was thinking that Fallion may not be a champion of Vaermina at all but was once part of a group that worshipped the deadric prince in Dawnstar. There is a mission where you have to assist a priest of Mara named Erandur to alleviate the townsfolk of Dawnstar of the nightmares that plague them, by eradicating Vaerminas hold on them. It's most likely that Fallion joined the group and left at some point...by whatever means that caused him to leave the cult I do not know. In exchange for their worship and other services I wouldn't put it past Vaermina to teach her followers how to cure vampirism.
Hi Nate, With the 500 Companions - it is also possible that the 500 were 500 leaders with many ordinary fighters under them. With the Daedric Princes - Malacath and Sheogorath are Princes that were created later on. Malacath was Trinimac until Boethiah defeated, ate, and defecated his remains thus turning him into Malacath. Sheogorath and Jyggalag became alter egos of each other thanks to the other Daerdric Princes teaming up and placing a curse Jyggalag. The Champion of Cyrodiil breaks the curse and frees Jyggalag but becomes Sheogorath himself. So my point is that new Daedric Princes can come into being at any time.
When molag bal said there are far worse masters than I..... Shivers right up my spine, you'd think he'd be the devil but maybe there's something out there which would make him look like a unborn baby...
Mud crab: **exists**
Nords: *YOU CALL YOURSELF A TRUE NORD?!?!?!?!?*
Mud crabs are nords omg
I laughed too hard at this lol
Imagine of them rips his head off just to reveal that he is Ysgramor himself
@@NiCoNiCoNiCola BRUH I NEED THIS NOW
Water:**exists**
Khajjit: **swims**
Also khajjit: *T H E R O A D M A K E S T H I S O N E W E A R Y*
Who would win a war?
An entire Civilization vs *500 Angry Companion Bois*
5 hot lizards
Just look at the falmer, poor stature, pale skin from hanging out in basements too long, unkempt appearance with poor personal hygiene, snow elves confirmed as incels.
@@stevefrench7512 That's right, especially because it's not like we'll see live snow elves that could offer any sort of counter evidence "cough" Dawnguard"cough"
joking of course. But still better to be a falmer then part of the thalmor
one Dragonborn
1 Neravarine. The guy is probably what Roosterteeth based their Red Vs. Blue character named "Agent Maine" on. And that guy survived five shots to the throat.
Can you blame Nazeem's wife? I mean the man has been hitting on the Jarl all this time.
@OneFourFive bisexual would be a better term
He likes to "lick" the Jarl's "boots"
*Wink wink nudge nudge*
Ooooh i get it now it wasn't nazeem's wife that gave the priest the key his wife might be there to find out wtf has the priest been doing with her man
Nose so far up the Jarl's ass he's part of it at this point.
@@neverthere6535 i wanted to answer with a similar phrase.
nazeem was so irritating tht bethesda took his house 😀😂
they did?
@@keybae23 Yup .......they removed his house in final version ....thts why he sleeps in a tavern
Omg yes 🤣🤣🤣
Wow .......195 likes 😳😀
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Nazeem: I believe my wife is having an affair.
Me: good for her.
🤣🤣🤣🤣⚰
No, It's pathetic to cheat. If you aren't happy with your partner just split up.
@@Moostery you uhhhhh...never played skyrim? Cos you would understand the joke and agree if you knew
@@kingcockroach. I understand the joke perfectly. I just despise people who cheat.
@@Moostery nah. Why split up when you can take their money and force them to suffer with you?
Nords that dont die in battle and just die a regular death go to Aetherius like everyone else unless they were evil and worshipped Daedras. Sovngarde is just one realm in Aetherius, like the Far Shores for Redguards and Sand Behind the Stars for Khajit. Aetherius is analogous to what we would consider heaven the same way the Oblivion would be analogous to hell.
But Orcs go to the Ash Pits (the realm of Malacath) which isn't like Hell so the analogy is kinda sucky. (Not to mention Hircines realm)
ApexKilo I tried the chapels. They're a waste of time.
Pretty sure there was at least 1 younger graybeard in Sovengarde in my last play through. Had the outfit at least.
It's more akin to the Greek underworld as it has: different regions for different beliefs, such as Aetherius matching up with the fields of Asphodel, where regulars go, Sovengard matching Elysium (though it matches more closely with Valhalla, mirroring the Ancient Norse the nords are based on, but that's not what this is about) where only the best of the best go, and so on and so forth.
Pretty sure any Nord who has proven him/herself on the battlefield without being killed or just lived an honorable life in general will be sent to Sovngarde regardless of how they die. It would be quite ridiculous for a great Nord warrior to end his life by intentionally perishing on the battlefield, just so he can enter Sovngarde
#1: Nate was transported into the skyrim itself, and cannot leave -- forced to put out youtube content
Wait they have wifi in skyrim? Is it majick based?
@@spicybeantofu no, you take a wabbajack blast to the Head and it spreads your essence in the air
Kyle Steele well that’s only one of the many things it can do to you I guess
#2: Nate was cursed by Sheogorath and forced to mispronounce at least one word or name per episode.
@@CtrlAltPhreak please don't remind me
The first one is interesting, but I have another theory. The Priests of Kynareth are supposed to be healers, right? So suppose Nazeem and Ahlam had lived together at Wintersand Manor and had a child. The child gets deathly ill and they ask one of the priests of Kynareth to try and save the child. Acolyte Jensen tries his best. He is at their house round the clock, Ahlam even gives him a key, so that he can check in on the child at any time. Despite Jensen's best efforts the child dies. This might account for some of Nazeem's bitterness and Ahlam's distance.
That... actually makes sense!
Don't try and make me feel bad for Nazeem
And for the lack of a house, actually! If your child died in that house, you probably wouldn't want to go back any time soon. If by any chance, they couldn't sell the house, they might have just 1) abandoned it or 2) burned it to the ground 3) something else that would rid of the house. I have no idea if the Breezehome has a backstory (the lore in this game is too much to keep track of lmao), but it's big enough for a family of three and close enough that Acolyte could visit whenever he wanted to. Obviously, it's not a manor, though. It would also make sense to stay inside the city, even though they have the farm just outside, for protection. Renaming the house would make sense after something like that, especially if the parents left due to the tragic memories.
Or maybe Wintersand is just a vacation home and we're desperately grasping for straws, haha
Bethesda probably decided that was a little to dark for there game
@@matthewdoherty803 then why did they add frostflow abyss
In 2:01 You missed a perfect chance to say "Redguardless".
"the greybeards avoid martial combat at all costs"
Unless you attack them, not too much avoiding combat there
They don't fight back
They just keep spamming unrelenting force and ice form
read that as mortal combat and thinking of the grey beards doing moves like raiden is hilarious to me
It's not martial combat
Thier just yelling at u
Hey Nate, I’m late to this video, but I wanted to suggest a thing people may not know yet, not even you. In the Thieves Guild quest line, on the quest to find and kill Karliah with Mercer Frey in the same place the previous place the previous Guild Master, Gallus, was murdered. Plot twist, Mercer was the bad guy all along and Karliah saves your hide. Well, questioning how I got out so fast, I reentered the dungeon, heading back to the main room where the quest takes you out of it, and in it you can find the skeleton of Gallus on the stairs, just out of view, along with a hidden exit.
Holy shit, maybe Karliah wanted to revive Gallus with necromancy or something like that
Uh.... yeah... thats kinda explained
@Pig in shit but it is explained that that's where he died...
We know it's where he died. It's still a nice attention to detail.
Sirdiealot88 it's thrown in your face that gallus' body was dumped in a river somewhere so it's pretty easy to not have expected that
You seem to confuse Molag Bal and Mehrunes Dagon alot.
Erik Jorgensen I was about to say lmao
Yeah... Molag made Vampires and Meruhns made uh... Death.
I'd like to see those two wage war against each other
@@mayathemayar4469 pretty sure that was Sithis, but I get your point
for someone who makes a shit ton of skyrim videos, he seems to get a lot wrong.
Molag Bal says "there are worse masters than I" at the end of ESO main story quest, not in the TES IV: Oblivion. Also, why go to mehrunes Dagon shrine, this would be the second time you got it confused.
Maybe because Molag Bal's shrine, or actually just altar, is boring. Mehrunes Dagon's is one of the best IMO.
mordantkitten that doesn’t even mean shit lmao
@@mordantkitten That's like going to a graveyard and honoring a random person's grave instead of your grandparent's because it looks better. Not everything is about aesthetics.
I too have noticed this mistake before 👍
seriously how does he keep getting it confused
Maybe Nazeem is the one with the affair, “going to Dragonreach” just to pass by and see that guy, and his wife just hangs around the place in an effort to catch him lol
Khajiit is spooked now.Go bother somebody else.
Don’t worry my friend have some skooma! On the house!
I smell Moonsugar.
Khajiit give me SKOOMA
Move along, cat
There’s one issue with your Graybeard theory: you can meet their master Juergen Windcaller in Sovengarde. You can talk to him in the Hall of Heroes.
Good point. Though it is unknown how Juergen died so maybe as an old dude he did have one last fight to the death.
I wonder how many Skyrim creators watch Nate and say, "Oh no... he's on to us...😑"
I'm looking at you, todd.
Time to preform the Black Sacrament
“Ysgramor” makes sense as a Draconic name, as names in dragon almost always have 3 syllables. “Al-du-in”, “Par-thur-nax”, you get the picture. “Ys-gra-mor” could be a fusion of Ancient Nordic (“Ys” and “Mor”) and Draconic (“Gra”). So his name could mean “Ysmor who Battles”, as “Gra” means battle in Draconic.
a bit late to the party, but i think there are indeed 3 dragon shout word that inspired the name of Ysgramor. "Ys" can be "iiz" meaning "ice", "gra" comes from "grah" which means indeed "battle", and finally "mor" that could come from "moro" which means "glory" or "morah" which means "focus/concentration/thought"
@@NMG.11 fucking hell mate you really are late! I don't even remember posting this lmao
@@gfran0578 xD ikr
@@NMG.11 Ice-Battle-Glory does summarize Ysgramor pretty concisely. Came from Atmora, fought the Snow Elves in a war of vengeance, and built the great edifice of Windhelm. Possibly while working alongside the Dragon Cult.
I was simply MURDERED to DEATH by your talent, Mr. Nate!!
Literally DEAD
Dragonborn: "So, Jensen, I hear you've been getting to the Cloud District, eh?"
Jensen: "I didn't ask for this."
The fact that Nazeem is being cheat on brings me so much relief
The Greybeards are not pacifists. They may seem as such, but by no means are they pacifistic. They 'only Speak in True Need', or in other words, use the Voice, or Thu'um, when necessary. They Spoke when Tiber Septim came, they Spoke when the Last Dragonborn came, and will use the Voice if you should attack them. I imagine they would use the Voice if Skyrim was invaded by outside forces (aka the Aldmeri Dominion).
To paraphrase another famous master, "A Greybeard uses the Voice for defense, never for attack."
So they are Pacifists
Thats essentially pacifism. Also the Aldmeri Dominion are already occupying Skyrim with Imperial sanctioned raiding teams rounding up Talos worshippers.
That's what a pacafist is?
Being a pacafist doesn't equate to being harmless
2:43 "Windsand Manor" ????
It clearly writes Wintersand Manor , Nate , c'mon man.
He corrected it a few moments later.
ed champagne 3:21
Yeah, I think that he may have Dyslexia. But if he does, that's a good sign. You have to be extremely intelligent in order to have it.
@@keulron2290 lmao
@@ericingtywatre You actually do.
Fallon says in his curing ritual, “I call upon the oblivion realms, home to those which are not our ancestors.” Maybe this is him siphoning power from Vaermina
I also believe that the black soul gem is used as they need to be filled with human souls and vampires don't have souls so perhaps this used to restore your soul and vaermina removes the disease
@@joshuawright4198 But Undead in Skyrim have souls, and can be Soul Trapped. Vampirism, at least the common kind, manifests as a virus. Maybe the ritual only transfers your disease of undeath to the soul in the gem, and it has to be a soul of equal value. Theoretically, you could cure a fox of vampirism with a petty soul gem, as it would be a soul of equal value.
@@necroarcanistxiii your theory makes more sense
I have just one thing to object in your Greybeard theory.
When we go to Sovengarde, don't we meet Jurgen Windcaller ? You know, the guy who founded the Greybeards. The OG pacifist and voice worshipper ? If he can be let into Sovengarde then why can't his followers also be let in ?
A counter to my objection may be that he may have died in a battle of some sort. But then again, would the Greybeards really follow his teachings if his last action negated everything they stood for ?
It could be that Kyne, being the wife of Shor, personally insisted Jurgen be allowed into Sovngarde as he recognized the Nords had been abusing the Voice, and taught them to cease their heretical abuse of the Thu'um. It was Jurgen who realized Kyne had punished the Nords for their abuse of this gift; it makes sense for Kyne to personally reward him.
Yeah, but he was a warrior before he became pacifist. There's a bit of evidence that if your deeds are great enough, dying on the battlefield isn't explicitly needed for entry. This would give leniency to those who were stabbed in the back or just caught a disease.
First there is no record of how he died. Pacifists can die in battle. And I would imagine any warrior who was as devout as he and awesome enough to have survived the Battle of Red Mountain got a free pass.
I think the teachings of the Greybeards regarding "pacifism" are only concerned with the use of the Thu'um. You can be a warrior, just don't use it for the "glory of men".
@@PerroMoshero Im pretty sure that they are not only pacifists in the way of the word, but in general. Remeber how outraged Agnir is when you have them be the counclers for the peace treaty? And when you talk to him, he even says that its maybe just better to let go and let alduin destryo the world, instead of fighting against him. So i cannot imagine The graybeards to use any sort of violence.
The Ysgramore theory was pretty interesting. But the Fallion one beats it. Nice knowing Bethesda made someone but dragonborn be a Daedra's champion too. And it makes a lot of sense! Great digging as always, Nate. Awesome work.
Well you get to see Boethia's champion before you kill him for his title and artifact.
@@brooklynhurd8328 i know i know!! I learned this in Nate's recent video! :D
But i meant.... you kill him, you become her new champion. So there is that. But Vaermina chose Fallion sooo.... :P
God i love this channel.
"Do you get to your wife's district very often? Oh, what am I saying, of course you don't."
Nazeam eats babies
Edit- I've been noticed
Greanolf fan?
OK, you've just repeated Greanolf
@@professormudkip702 yes
@@ziziospoon5847 and? It's just a reference don't get in a twist
@@queenfopsie5442 You have great tastes in TH-camrs
"Nord belief holds that the honored dead live forever in sovngarde" this is some loading screen text in game and I take it to mean as long as you are remembered in some way after death you can get in without the need to die in battle
I kinda feel like Nazeem and his wife was left in the game by accident... Why Nazeem doesn't have a farm or a House. I always thought based off the evidence he was supposed to be cut content.
@OneFourFive it makes more sense that he was supposed to be cut from game. A dev was lazy or forgot.
But doesn't he have that Farm outside of whiterun?I thought it was his
Nazeem owns Chillfurrow Farm.
@@dagothur2666 or someone know that Nazeem will become meme gold :)
The farm was cut and only gets added in with Cutting Room Floor.
The idea that it could've been possible to have a Dark Brotherhood contract to kill Nazeem... Nobody would ever destroy the Brotherhood anymore once they knew they could get paid for killing Nazeem!
“Molag Bal says...”
[shows Mehrunes Dagon]
Falion is one of my favorite characters, it's weird, he's a vampire specialist and haven't noticed Alva and Movarth's plan... What's his business on that circle, and that circle is where You can cure your vampirism... Maybe i have missed something, but thats is strange
Maybe it's because Movarth actually made a pact with Falion, deciding not to attack the villagers in exchange of not exposing secrets, then Movarth instead proceed to slowly slave all of residents
@@MeadowBrook2000 Maybe, but I don't know, The guy is a master conjurer, I think a Minor Vampire Coven woudn't pose much Threat to him... And looks like he wanted to keep a normal life with his adopted daughter, so he have a reason to keep Morthal safe of a major Threat... It's really Strange
Hi Nate, I'm not sure if you already covered these for your "10 Tiny Details," but here goes:
1. In the Dark Brotherhood questline, when Astrid asks the Dragonborn to talk to Delvin Mallory, the latter's dialogue changes depending on whether the Dragonborn has joined the Thieves' Guild prior.
2. In the quest "Lost to the Ages," and upon finding Katria's body, if you steal her armor her ghost would reprimand you.
"...wouldn't be especially bothered if Nazeem just died."
*Looks up from sharpening his sword*
Hmm?
Leaving Nazeem alive is truly spooky
I have never killed Nazeem once. FEAR ME
Nate! I just experienced a random encounter in Skyrim!! The madwoman you meet after Sheogorath’s quest can ACTUALLY be found roaming around before hand. She tells the player not to go to the Blue Palace, that “Master is on vacation,” and to not “listen to Dervenin.” Just thought you’d like to know. She says other things as well. 😀
The "500 companions" is probably a case of Nordic hyperbole, very similar to the book "The Guardian and the Traitor" where they say that Solstheim literally split from the mainland because of Vahlok and Miraak's battle. What I believe is that the highest ranking of the Nordic warriors were classified as "The 500," but that these 500 had many men below them to aid in their battles. I don't doubt that dragons might have been involved with the return, since the Dragon Cult had been established long before the Nords returned to Skyrim, but the dragons complacency and indifference toward those who worshiped them makes me think they didn't have a very direct role in the eradication of the snow elves. Don't forget that men were still fighting snow elves into the first area, according to Skorm Crag-Strider's journal in Forelhost. An eradication of an entire species is a long, slow process, and it might have taken the ancient Nords a few centuries to drive the snow elves back.
Remember, don't read everything in the Elder Scrolls verbatim or as gospel. What I love about the series is that everything is from the perspective of an unreliable narrator. We don't know what's true and what isn't, and it's up to us to fill in the blanks.
MasterSkyrim1000 (this is directed at “The Guardian And The Traitor”) I wouldn’t be surprised if the battle of Vahlok and Miraak caused Solstheim to split from the mainland, Thu’ums are extremely powerful and are able to bend reality, and if the Thu’um is given to one of the strongest mortals on Tamriel, you bet they’re going to be able to mess some shit up.
Yes! That's one of the best details about the way the lore is presented: the inconsistencies, depending on the biases of the "authors" of this or that book found in the world. It's an incredible amount to keep track of. It's also a very clever out for the devs if they want to change something in a later game.
If we look into ysgramor having roots in the dragon language and evolving into ysgramor it could be it was originally "iizgrahmoro", meaning ice battle glory, perhaps a battle won somewhere cold, like skyrim? Something to thing about
Amazing video ! Still surprised this game still get this much attention ❤
I'm surprised Nate's channel doesn't get much attention
"Vermena is the ONLY entity who knows how to cure vampirism"
*Hermrous mora laughs in tenticle*
Found a mod called, "teleport anywhere to Nazeem", and I love the idea of just driving him insane by always teleporting to him no matter where he is or what he's doing.
You assume the wife... I bet it's Nazeem sleeping with him. :D
Me: today's a terrible day
Nate: *uploads*
Me:😆
I've always imagined Oblivion as the Abyss from dnd where there are an infinite amount of layers and we only know so many demon lords
Lycanthropy cures vampirism.
No it's the stupid skyrim engine who doesn't let you be a mega super powerful hybrid !
@@tetrodotoxin99 you can actually have both but no polymorphosis sadly
Facts
@@tetrodotoxin99 “Think I’th mixthed too many bloodth.”
-The Senile Scribbles: Dawnguard
Everyone seems to forget about Jyygalag, the Daedric Prince of Order and, at one point, the other half of Sheogorath. After the Shivering Isles DLC for Oblivion, Jyyg gets split off from Sheogorath and goes off from the Shivering Isles to gather power again.
A few videos ago I commented that Nate keeps confusing Molag Bal with Mehrunes Dagon. And he has done this several times with them in several videos. And now in this video, he keeps panning over Dagon's shrine while talking about Bal.
So here's my conspiracy question: is Nate doing this on purpose to trigger the die-hard Elder Scrolls lore nerds, or if he just being stupid/not caring? It's too consistent to be minor slip-ups.
vinny9500 i think he just reads off shit and doesn’t actually know anything about the lore
@@j.carter6449 calm down dude
molag bal as far as i know does not have a shrine in the mountines but a house in morthal
It's definitely on purpose lol the lore nerds act like triggered 12 year olds about this stuff and it's somewhat amusing.
@@Gunny-Bunny-47 damn gaurds... Markarth son.
Skyrim is the simplest an most feature/mechanic baron of all the elder scrolls games but i still find new things in it because you and Fudgemuppet... THANK YOU!
Imagine if they did go through with putting the Windsand Manor in the game and a Quest was put in concerning this Love Triangle.
It would have allowed the player to either help Nazeem who suspects his wife or help his wife put an end to Nazeem in a few interesting ways.
This quest could have interlinked with the Dark Brotherhood questline and allowed the player to finish it in a plethora of ways.
At the end you’d be given Windsand Manor and either Nazeem or his wife would leave and go pursue other things.
Or you know, somehow get one of those transparent draugr from Labyrinthian randomly spawn behind you when you zone in Whiterun, and only targeting Nazeem and killing him before actually fighting the guards.
Or you finally get nazeem's wife
thank you so much for pumping out so much quality content ❤️
Love ur channel can’t wait to see more
I honestly love this channel so much amazing content
"Sees Like to Dislike ratio"
Hey, that's pretty good...
About Ysgramor, there was a book which talks about Azidahl assisting Ysgramor and his five hundred companions with enchanted armour and weapons. Some text also say Ysgramor Road the back of a conjured thunder bear, so I suppose he had some help from the Clever men (mages as they were described in the old era). Conclusion, it was perhaps a combination of Azidahl, the clever men and the intervention of the dragons as you mentioned in the video.
You’re what got me to play Skyrim again. I got super bored of it (for no apparent reason, it’s the best game ever made) and you opened my eyes as to how interesting, engaging, and large Skyrim is. (I hecking love your videos, by the way) Edit: “the graybeards, are of course, the organization of old guys living on high hrothgar.” Haha, this is why I watch your videos
Falion is my favorite character. When I forget about being infected with vampirism and turn into a full vampire he can heal me.
By sithis
I need friends ._.
You have the night mother
🤹♀️👁🤹♀️
The Night Mother wants you to warm her ancient bones.
@@madhouse2594 she's got a bit of a boner
Same fella
My theory:
Ysgramor and his Nords were all half giants at the time. Not only that, when he says "500 Companions" he meant 500 Jarls, Warlords, Chieftains, Generals, and Nobles from Atmora each with their own personal armies. Also Dragons and a plethora of OTHER Warbeasts, and maybe giants from Atmora.
For the last one they could have used the eye of magnus , it is in one of the first nord strongholds and was there when the nords got ransacked by the elves or so it is implied
You're on to something bud id never considered that
To be fair, 500 nords vs a entire race and winning is not the the most outlandish thing in the elder scrolls. Hell, it not even the most outlandish thing to happen in real history.
I always assume the ruined house near the giants and western watchtower is Nazeem's house.
Nazeem is legit gay. If you get naked in front of him, he asks you to put clothes on because you're making him "unseasonably warm", but ONLY uses that line for male dragon borns.
Daedric prince Gimme: Lord of Microtransactions and shiting people.
And his plane of Oblivion is EA’s headquarters
I just wish Nate would put out vids every day. But I know it takes time to gather material and the cut and edit...great work Nate!!
That's not Molag Bal. That's Mehrunes Dagon
From what I read from in-game books, Azzhidal enchanted the Nord's weapons that were used against the elves. And we know for a fact that he had mastered it to its peak
AND ON THE FIRST DAY SHAGGY SAID: LET THERE BE SKYRIM!
In the way of Falion I believe he is the champion of an unknown Daedra the Daedric Prince of Mysteries. Not the Prince of Nightmares. I think that whilst teaching at the College of Winterhold he was visited by the Daedra of Mysteries. That is how he saw the planes of Oblivion and met a Dwemer, he was shown the mysteries of the forgotten. To be clear mysteries is not a factor of Hermaus Mora. So all knowledge forgotten or not known is not owned by Hermaus but the Daedra of Mystery. Surely an unknown champion to an unknown Daedra is quite fitting? The cure for Vampirism would be a mystery revealed to Falion and the Daedra of mystery would use nightmares to throw people of his trail to keep it a *mystery*. Anyway that's my two cents hope you found it interesting.
"The temple of KEH-NAW-RETH!"
I had several playthroughs on Xbox 360 but never got to enjoy the glory of mods. I bought a pc a couple years ago but it took stumbling on your videos to realize that I was missing out on not only the mods but on the remastered version of the game and nostalgia won over.
I am so glad It did because I have been loving how much freedom the pc version of the game gives me. Having played through a good amount of the vanilla game I have really enjoyed being able to play it again with so many new additions and changes is amazing! So what I am trying to say is thank you! Lol
Mehrunes Dagon not Molag Bal, this is the second time I've seen you mix these two up. Only thing that was Molag Bal was the creation of the vampires, you could have used shots of him from ESO if you didnt want to show his shrines from skyrim.
May I say I like how calm your voice is. Keep up the good work dude, I love your videos!
Nice!!! Just got back into Skyrim with a paladin build that will bring the undead to their knees! So keep up the awesome content dude! It drives me to keep playing, even after 7 years
I wanted to add something to the Greybeard subject, If what you/we speculate is true, then Jurgen Windcaller wouldn't be in Sovngarde (?) I also wanted to add the following quote to when the play speaks with him when in Sovngarde.
"My disciples still follow the difficult path - the Way of the Voice is neither wide, nor easy. But if you stray from the wisdom then to Sovngarde you will not return."
Though, I could be wrong because he was a War Leader during the First Empire of the Nords... so idk. Just something I thought I'd bring up :Analyses Cap:
Love the vid man
So early Nate could murder me to death
For the Dark Brotherhood, that could easily be arranged!
Ultimate Gamer *wink wink*
I have an idea for the 500 nords theory some of the nords might not have been nords at all but red guard because when creating your character in Skyrim it says “Redguards are the most talented warriors in Tamriel” mic drop
The deep one's are said to be deadra. You can do a quest in oblivion to learn more.
But good video!
Luc Unkindeld seacreatures. Just like shadow over innsmouth
Hi Nate ! I'm french and i love your Skyrim's videos. I like as always and suscribe today. Good job ! Please continue ! ^^
2:30 is he choking himself? Has he found the true evil inside him? Who knows......
Theory time
The greybeards saved me from hired thugs and they defeated them
Theory: ALDUIN IS JAR JAR
True
Jarduin
He's the key to all this.
Mesa gonna burnin down Helgen!
and dragonborn is anakin？
I love Queen Lorel, added in with Interesting NPCs, and her take on the early colonization of Skyrim. One of the few Draugr worth talking too :).
I thought the companions were werewolves, isn’t that how they conquered the elves?
They became werewolves waaaaaay longer after ysgramor. They were only werewolves for a couple centuries at best
Kodlak Whiteman tells you the following in the Companions quest line:
"The Companions are nearly five thousand years old. This matter of beastblood has only troubled us for a few hundred. One of my predecessors was a good, but short-sighted man. He made a bargain with the witches of Glenmoril Coven. If the Companions would hunt in the name of their lord, Hircine, we would be granted great power."
WAIT!! You forgot that an nord mage who became a dragon priest who used to live with the snow elves and learn and master elven magic and help ysgmore to wipe them out. This can also be know and found in skyrims dlc dragonborn
The greybeards become the statues that look over sovenguarde
Grey Beards seems to me that they represent 'the Old Man of the Mountain'/'King of The World'/'King of Agartha or Agarti', leader of the group of Sages that oversee the Spiritual Development of the World. They are the Way into that Realm, guardians or caretakers so to speak. Just as in game you have to get past these to speak with their leader Parthanax who lives at the summit, when you do you travel time and space to fulfill your destiny and go to Sovenguard.
I can see good reason for Nazeem's wife to be cheating on him.
The reason I think behind the 500 companions against the snow elves is with the help of Ahzidal
There is a book called "Ahzidal's decent" where he was a great mage mastering the elven ways of magic apparently his homeland of saarthal was attacked by the snow elves after leaving to study more on other provinces this filled him with rage and after he learned that ysgramor was planning a revenge attack on the elves he volunteered to help him by enchanting the armors and weapons of ysgramors army the 500 companions with the elven magic he learned throughout his life basically using the elves own magic against them eventually winning and sending the elves into near Extinction...
Talks about Molag Bal, shows Mehrunes Dagon lol
This channel is the reason why I got back into Skyrim
"this confirms that there could be other daedric princes"
this confirms that its unconfirmed
10/10 writing
I think that the unrevealed Daedric Princes thing is referencing the Demiprinces like Fa-Nuit-Hen or Morihaus. Note the term "Demiprince" also refers to what we'd generally demigods. Thus why Morihaus (the apparent son of an Aedra) is counted as one of them
Did you know that when Nazeem dies, Ahlam (his wife) says the line about herself being a wife but the word wife changes to widow?
I'm pretty sure anyone who kill Nazeem knows it
@@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou That's too good for him. Personally, I prefer to soul trap him, and then toss the gem with his soul in it into the Soul Cairn or some other dark corner of the Universe.
@@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou enchant a spoon
@@apathetichumanoid2891 enchant a dildo
Hey how's it going Nate, it's Lola here! I was thinking that Fallion may not be a champion of Vaermina at all but was once part of a group that worshipped the deadric prince in Dawnstar. There is a mission where you have to assist a priest of Mara named Erandur to alleviate the townsfolk of Dawnstar of the nightmares that plague them, by eradicating Vaerminas hold on them. It's most likely that Fallion joined the group and left at some point...by whatever means that caused him to leave the cult I do not know. In exchange for their worship and other services I wouldn't put it past Vaermina to teach her followers how to cure vampirism.
*Talks about molag bol, shows mehrunes dagons statue*
Hi Nate,
With the 500 Companions - it is also possible that the 500 were 500 leaders with many ordinary fighters under them.
With the Daedric Princes - Malacath and Sheogorath are Princes that were created later on. Malacath was Trinimac until Boethiah defeated, ate, and defecated his remains thus turning him into Malacath. Sheogorath and Jyggalag became alter egos of each other thanks to the other Daerdric Princes teaming up and placing a curse Jyggalag. The Champion of Cyrodiil breaks the curse and frees Jyggalag but becomes Sheogorath himself. So my point is that new Daedric Princes can come into being at any time.
Spooky theory,
Nate are murdering people to death
Either you typed the comment wrong
Or you're saying that Nate isn't one entity ,which is truly terrifying
yes, he is not one entity
When molag bal said there are far worse masters than I..... Shivers right up my spine, you'd think he'd be the devil but maybe there's something out there which would make him look like a unborn baby...