*NEW* VW T-ROC R - BETTER than Golf R?
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I don't mind SUVs and don't mind the Golf R so I was curious as to whether a mixture of the two would be something I'd love or hate, watch this video to find out!
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It needs a panoramic roof to brighten the dull cabin
Doesn't seem like that's too much to say about this. It's a small suv with the golf r engine and Andrews review seems to confirm it's exactly what you'd expect! That's not a bad thing mind!
These cross over models are so unconvincing! I drove an Audi Q2 for a day recently & it was so nondescript! Hatchback, saloon, estate & SUV meet all requirements.
Nigel Smith was just given a 30 2019 q2 s-line while mine was in for mot. Only thing that impressed me was the seating position and the lights.
Were you able to look in the boot? Was there much space?
£39000? Those brakes ain't free mate.
My mum has a Seat Arona 1.0 turbo that I drive time to time. I believe it’s mostly the same as the standard 2wd TRoc. Always amazed how sharp the steering is. Feels a bit like a modern, higher riding Mk1/2 golf gti.
Arona = MQB A0 platform
T Roc = MQB platform.
It's not the same!
Good, balanced review. Personally I'm not a fan of SUVs, but it was an interesting comparison to a Golf R. I find it strange that VW gave the T-roc the "R" treatment - I always thought the T-roc was more of a Polo SUV & that the Tiguan was the Golf SUV equivalent. The T-roc is certainly specced more like a Polo (note the upgraded sound system is the Beats audio, rather than the excellent Dynaudio Excite system from the Golf). I couldn't help noticing your comments about the dashboard plastics as well. If only it had been a Polo R, now THAT would have been the ultimate pocket rocket 😂.
Let's just say I have no regrets about ordering a Golf R estate - which has to be one of the best cars for mixing practicability & performance out there!
Same platform as the Cupra Ateca, with the heritage from VW. Great vid!!
Thanks a lot👍
You definitely deserve more views and subscriptions Andrew. Great content as always. Hope you’re keeping well.
Scratchy plastic dash on a 40 grand car?! You gotta be kidding.
Very fine video! Glad it’s got real exhausts.
Quite like the R
Thanks Jake! It's a charming car if you take it at face value. It would be a lot more appealing with a better plastic quality inside. Even a base Mk3 Leon has a soft touch dash.
Will it really handle as good as a Golf in hard driving though?
Also I don't understand, if it's heavier, but has the same engine as the Golf R, how does it have a faster 0-60? Is it geared shorter?
I have so many questions about this vehicle.
Not sure what I said about T Roc R but don't think I'd have said or at least meant that it was faster in accleration than Golf R, can you give me the time stamp when I said this?
It will not handle as well as the Golf R but the Golf is to good as it takes the pleasure away from driving as driver input isn't really called for i.e. a skilled driver won't be much quicker than an average driver on a challenging road. My feelings were than the height and weight will mean that the driver has more to do on a challenging road *because it's less good* and this will be more enjoyable of not faster. Ultimately the best roads are 90 kph / 60 mph so you want to enjoy a car at those kinds of speeds, Golf R needs around 30 mph more to come alive which isn't safe or legal.
Any more questions feel free to ask sir
@@volkswizard Sorry, I may have carried over other things from other T Roc R testing videos. On carwow, Matt tested the T Roc's 0-60 time and was able to produce a baffling 4.2 second time. The fastest stock Golf R 0-60 times I've seen are around 4.8 seconds, according to 0-60times.com. If this is true, all this means is the T Roc R is faster off the line than the Golf R. And I am trying to find out why. It's a bit hard, as we don't have T Rocs in the states.
@@ethanheitz4489 The extra weight of the vehicle helps it get off the line quicker. On the rolling road - the golf would start to pull away eventually.
the wheel arch extensions are there to meet legal requirements. Pulling the whole arch out to cover the wheel would be impractical so if you have wider wheels / tyres as on the R this is the easiest way to meet the requirement
Great review. Don’t see why you’d get this over a Golf R really. If they did a Tiguan R, then at least there would have been more boot space for kids stuff. Troc R has almost the same size boot as the Golf.
The height difference isn’t that major either.
Lot less of it getting stolen or maybe want something different
Another great review. Pleased you picked the car with actual colour for a change. Did both exhaust tips on each side get sooty? As an aside, did I see your name at the end of Aging wheels' last video? I'm not stalking you, honestly!
The exhaust tips were oddly clean which may be a a benefit of the petrol particulate filter. I've just checked that vid and the spelling is different, was mystified as not much VAG on that channel!
Nice looking car, good adjustment for driving, good for driving down country lanes with hedges visibility wise, cost wise bit steep especially for the quality of the interior, mind you all t-roc's have low rent plastic. More exclusive than the golf R and probably less enticing for your average car thief than the golf, secondhand wise will probably be easier to find an unmodified one that has been thrashed unlike the golf too.
Very insight! Like it
Keep the small wheels, lower it 20mm, stage one ABT tune and you have a sub 4second mini SUV
Priced up a T-ROC R, to the same spec as my 19 plate Golf R on the VW website. The T-ROC had a identical spec (if not a bit better with the brakes), and it comes in at about £7k less. I can imagine it will appeal to some people who want a sporty SUV or family car that isn't too silly.
Hi Kiran. Bit confused by this as T-Roc R is more than Golf R basic price, how did you manage to make it £7k cheaper with options?
volkswizard a lot of the optional extras I got on my Golf R (ordered in January 2019) seem to be standard on the T-ROC (spec’d on the website last week) so a “full spec” golf R is a very similar interior to a “full spec” golf R. But as you said in your review, the brakes are the club sport style brakes, which I didn’t get on my Golf R.
When comparing the Spec, the T-Roc had a very similar spec to my golf R, however the list price for the T-Roc on the website was £7k less than the invoice for my Golf R.
That being said, I haven’t looked at the Golf R webpage recently, so I don’t know if the standard options on the R have changed in the last 10 months.
Whilst it seems obvious, you can't compare this to a Golf R. They're different propositions. Loads of purists saying the hatch is fine, but these CUVs and SUVs have been outselling hatch's for a while now.
Regardless what people think, it is more practical than a hatch too. More capable dare I say?
From the reviews I've seen of this model, the R division have done a fantastic job with the chassis. Not simply a cut and paste from the golf. I'd love one and would choose this over a Golf all day.👏🏼
Good review. This cars interior seems alot cheaper than the Golf R. When pressing the internal buttons they sound cheap. Not worth it.
I had a T-ROC 'R-Line' 1.6 TDI as a courtesy car last year (2019). Didn't think much of it when compared to my Passat but then i'm not a fan of SUVs anyway. That plastic on the top of the dash is unforgivable in a vehicle of this cost, and I told the dealer so.
Good review nice production.
Thanks, that means a lot as I do all this on my own with no budget and under significant time pressure 👍
Oh no, golf R forum going to explode 😖😂😂
What's new😂
Lovely car...... I know it’s unfair to compare old vs new, but I’d rather have a B7 RS4 and pocket the change (for maintenance).
Good video with loads of info
Thanks Chris 👍
You can get a Skoda Superb 277 sportline for similar money. No contest imo
It is very clever: compare hot cross and regular limousine 🤦
- Wouah - Superb Car by VW T-Roc R ! Thanks !
Quite a nice looking car that
Andrew ,
I just bought a very High spec'd one from Johnsons VW Birmingham, MD'scar 750miles old.
Interesting review and your normal as it is actual ,as I concur pretty much with your comparison with the Golf R and day to day feel as we now live in the Cotswolds and yes the roads are crap in many places on A &B roads, even took a chunk out of my UPGTi's rear nearside side wall , £96 match up replacement
Great video Andrew and nice looking car particularly in blue (Arteon would look superb) however I’d have a Q3 I think 🤔
The Q3 surprised me with how it drove as it promised nothing, the T-Roc R promised a lot (it's an R after all) but delivered less than expected and I am sure the steering felt better on the Audi but that did have adapters dampers which would have done a better job overall so prob not a fair comparison. Both are a similar price but the Q3 was weighed down with gear
Expected better quality of T Roc R interior to be honest - the Q3 you had in Suffolk was a much nicer car in my opinion
It is a smart car and has a nicer interior than the t-roc. Not cheap, mind you.The 35 tfsi is underpowered and can sound a bit strained when pushed eg when overtaking.
I'm not too keen re.your comments on pensioners, we don't always feel the need to drive too fast on UK country roads, if only 'cos there are too many trees / hedges to see what's coming... Possibly we aren't ready to die at the wheel just yet...... 'Tis better in Germany though, 100 km/h on country roads is much safer /easier (no hedges, etc.). As you might have guessed I'm 72 & SWMBO is 70, so we "must" be considered to be slow & dangerous, except that we both own Golf R's, ( hatch & a wagon ). My daily driver is a humble Skoda Superb 2.0 TSi albeit with a stage 1 map (252ps). Why, 'cos it's fun to own & run a "sleeper" with zero street cred.
The comment wasn't aimed at pensioners generally, if you revisit my words you will see it was specifically aimed at pensioners in Ford Fiestas. I am sure that will offend pensioners in Ford Fiestas but that's my experience of driving that road which has a 60 mph limit but many drivers can't exceeed 40 on it. I don't have an issue with people doing that whatever car they are in, even a Golf R, hence why I am prepared to loiter by the side of the road to let them do their thing in their own space and time.
Got to agree as a fellow senior. Had a 19 reg Golf R till last year and just got a new T Roc R because, sometimes, it's useful to accelerate away from LGV's driving in clusters (elephant racing) on dual carriageways. Been caught speeding twice, both occasions due to badly signed, unfamiliar roads but have zero interest in any form of road racing and found it annoying when, on occasion, the boy racers tried to incite me into a speed contest because they assumed driving a performance model made me an aspirational formula one driver. I will add that I was a LGV class one driver and also owned GSXR 1000 and similar motorbikes ( having ridden powerful bikes no car can even come close in terms of acceleration, speed or thrill).
Do you like it Patrick
i just won one of these off of dream car giveaways - cant wait to get my hands on it xx
Would’ve been useful to spend a few seconds on the rear seat area.
True, apologies, under a lot of pressure and stuff does get missed. Hope rest was useful
At over £38k nothing is free, imo this car is way over priced, with hard scratchy plastic thrown in, although i suppose the thieves will love nicking this despite the plastic.
Nice video. Offroad engine noise, what the f**k is that?
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Good video, don't like black wheels on a car it always makes them look a bit naff and unfinished. Much as I love vee dub they are overpriced.
Wheels are grey not black.
One of those reviewers who says things come "free" on a car fro a given price. They aren`t "free", they are included i the price ffs!
Interior looks cheap
It’s a golf on stilts
Why is the lights flickering at the back also looks a bit cheap considering nearly 40 grand.Hate a hazard a guess how much this will cost at the vw stealers when it goes wrong.
That'll just be how the camera picks up the light, it won't be flickering in person.
@@JimboJammy Thanks
JamesyBoyJim yeah it’s due to the frame rate of the camera.
And i suppose it will be very popular with the other type of stealers?
Bets on years before this is discontinued. I says 3.
Can't understand this sporty crossover /suv trend. Golf R is better in everything. 🤷♂️
pokest225 not for someone with lower back pain 🤷♂️
@@roninesce8362 I have lower back pain. My car is a seat leon cupra. Same as a golf r. No problem.
pokest225 but others are not amazing like you. Maybe they have different taste, preferences and more money to blow
@@roninesce8362 so nothing related to physical pain really. Only because these things are trendy and cool for someone's eyes.
Any mpv is more comfortable and practical than any suv. Crossovers and suvs are the worst thing ever happened in the automotive industry. They are totally the opposite of the logic idea. Too big, not so practical, too heavy, and not that efficient.
VW why is this not in America???
That's a good question, judging by the UK finance deals available, it's not going down too well in Europe but then £40k is a lot of cash, I bet it would have to be less in America and that might be the issue.
The door cards are so cheaply built.
Not just the door cards, dash is poor too. A real shame it's not the same as the Golf, or maybe it is, Mk8 Golf?!
@@volkswizard I had the new audi A1 as a courtesy car the other day aswell and the door quality really shocked me. Iv seen better in a Ford Fiesta
Gordon McCartney I don’t like what the vw group are playing at just now with these cheap looking interiors. They’re not exactly cheap cars!
@@volkswizard does the Golf 8 have the same dash/door quality as the T-Roc... ?
@@4maticeperformance4doorcoupe Can't help you there as not important enought to receive any Mk8 info/invites from VW Press Office. Not heard too many complaints from the media that attended the launch though. If Mk8 does have the same poor plastics, I can tell you now, I won't be buying one.
£39000. Oh dear.
And that's without the winter pack too. They give you with one hand and take with the other. Winter pack should be standard on every top of the range VW.
SUVs and crossovers are a cancer on Britain's roads. Change my mind.
Ironic, as the state of UK roads is part of the reason people use SUV's - Damn potholes!
@@froomer17 And that is why the road fund licence is set to rocket in April
Daft title they are a different class of car
But based on the same platform…