@terrybull4604 ha ha yeah because it's all manual labor .... then they ship it to China and process it there 30% of carbon made there and then sold to Canada to build batteries for e.v.s green energy
I think you should replace it. Just bought my Liebherr and it's the best daily driver. Really economical too. The only thing I don't like is having to climb up so high but at least you have a great visibility.
@@Ratkill9000 That means nothing dude, cost to company, company needs so much Tonnage/loads per minute to be able to make profit so they can pay those hourly rates..
Okay, so let's put renewables into perspective. This single digger consumes a quarter of a full size fuel truck a day. In a mine with multiple diggers and supporting vehicles. 1 hour of fuel is 560 liters diesel. 1 liter = 10kWh, so 5600 kW average power 1 solar panel = 400Wp, so 14000 panels 1 hectare holds 3000 panels, so 4.5 hectares But we want to operate 24/7 Assuming 8 full sun hours/day: 42000 panels 13.5 hectares plus 1 hectare for the required storage. And this is just ONE of these diggers. Now put your tesla into the picture and scale things into perspective. Do you even think your 10 solar panels and EV even makes a dent when you have a mine with dozens of vehicles driving around? Oh and in case you are wondering. A single SMR reactor can provide 300 MW of continuous power and could very well supply the entire mine of energy. It would also require a mere corner in the mine and could be installed in 40 truckloads. It would have an annual saving of hundreds, if not thousands, of full size diesel trucks.
In California, fuel cost would be $7.8 million, except California wouldn’t permit any mining that could use the 9800. The only mining allowed is the state government mining your wallet.
I’m okay with that. Mining makes the land look ugly and broken. Went to Montana for a few ml this and the big pit mine is an eye sore not to mention it polluted a bunch of water.
Machines like this are now running self greaseing systems. Cuts down time the operator keeps filling the bucket as the machine greases itself as long as grease tank is kept full.
I work with some fair-sized construction companies and they all say that when you start ordering fuel in 100,000 gallon purchases at a time it gets to be around $1.25 to $1.50 a gallon cheaper than what's at the pumps. Push that to 250,000+ gallons per order and it's about $1.75 to $2 a gallon cheaper.
And the cost will go up when diesel production falls, in line with the reduced usage because we all have EVs now, which will drive up the cost of the materials used to make EVs, and then we won't be able to afford EVs anymore, and the WEF wins.
@@fredmercury1314hmm, so where do they come from? Does the iron fairy bring it and put it under the pillow of fords CEO? Out of curiosity, are you always this much of a dipshit? Or was this a special effort to be as stupid as possible ? Also, gotta love how your argument is “they’ll be more expensive which means the WEF wins” as if the price of fossil fuels won’t continue to go up as they cease to be available
@@Robert-cu9bm Exactly. Even if the operators and the technicians are paid REALLY well: the labor costs are rather small compared to owning and running such machines. Hence it's absolutely worth it to work in shifts to get as close to 24/7/365 as possble. To get the absolute maximum work hours out of those machines.
But, isn't the useful life of the machine measured in running hours, not time elapsed from manufacturing? You don't actually get more work out of the thing by packing it into less time.
@@joshjahncke4178 That ignores the fact that better and more efficient machines get introduced over time. Hence you are indeed incentivized to get as much work out of them in as few years as possible. That and the more stuff you can mine, the higher your profits grow. Higher yearly profits are a measure of competitiveness all on their own, and you really don't want to lack behind your competition.
Look up Edisons hybrid diesel logging rig he made for a million dollars out performing teslas rig! Diesels are the happiest at a specific RPM and the most efficient. The only reason diesel engines can be dirty is because they are always in different workloads.
@@tonymai1844 huh? are you a little delulu bro? why would they break after 4 years XD there are WAAAAY less moving parts, way less things to go wrong... 10 year old evs with the shitty batteries in those days are still driving without problems idk man... you say its shit but then you look at the facts and ur just wrong. ICE cars fails more often in general
Nah, that's what burns in the plant to make power for carbon free cars. The battery chemicalls are dug up by child labour by hand. It's the greenest stuff 😂
@@noonespecial9131Huge difference here is that the dumbasses that scream for electric cars deny it, the "complicit" others you speak of know already and don't try to cover up the fact that it takes fuel to make fuel.
@@TheFishE77Official How is using coal energy to build a battery, (that can be charged at home with solar for years), worse than just burning it to power your microwave and other consumer electronics? One is an investment and the other is just consumed with no future benefits.
@@noonespecial9131look up what happens when water and lithium make contact, then tell me how if we already have a drinkable water shortage now, multiply that issue by 3 times, because that's how much water it takes to put out a lithium fire compared to a regular fire. Let's have trucks full of water with a crane that picks up EV's on fire, submerge them in water that we will never be able to use again and will destroy the ecosystem around it. They're cool and all but you're fucked if it's raining and you get into a semi serious wreck in an EV, shits gonna explode in flames
I've done the math on coal mining and could never make it come out how hundreds of yards of overburden can be moved twice, if not 3 times to get a single cubic yard of coal that's only worth forty some odd dollars
By using big machines and they only move it once the 2nd 9800 in this video is doing a strip ratio of 3 to 1 it can remove 350 tonnes in 35 seconds an the coal price you a referring to is a low quality hi ash coal its mining thermal coking coal worth at the time of that video was filmed 4 years ago $600 a ton Australian
@@dalejrjunior1298 strip mining or underground? I know a fair amount about the business because I have helped supply the mine timber and roof boards for decades. I'm in Indiana and for years it was almost all strip mining but in the early '90's everything switched to underground. Used to be a big shovel or 2 running everywhere, now I think there's only 2 still left in the state and I'm not sure if their even digging or just doing reclaim.
@@treemanclint2883 depends if it's a cost ratio to determine strip or underground if it's easier to remove the overburden then go to it directly underground they do that also depends if the deposit is larger than the area they can use on the surface
@@dalejrjunior1298 when I was young, fifty plus years ago, they were stripping 200 plus feet of overburden with the big drag lines. By the 90's in was down to less than a hundred and now it's less than 60 feet with the diesel shovels and they skip past a lot of the margin veins. The reclamation cost has killed it here. The 100% put back to original, which includes tree planting and wildlife cover, retention ponds, leach ponds, test wells, whole bunch of stuff that cost lots of money
Thanks for not giving us the answer, but instead posing the question in a different way. As I’m sure you can imagine, it makes your videos very gratifying.
So you entirely failed to actually say how much it costs to run. Giving the numbers you did share, you're saying diesel at $4.35 a gallon for a $22,600 fill up. You said 35 hours of run time per tank, 250 tanks a year, for 364.58 days of run time. Pretty sure they have to turn it off occasionally for maintenance.
And like he said, that's one machine! Now you need trucks. A LOT of them. Then a dozer. Then some road graders. Probably some wheel loaders. Don't forget LAND to mine! And its all $$$ ! 😲
To run one 9800 we would have atleast ten 930 komatsu trucks and 2 d11 dozers at the time when they filmed that 2nd 9800 we had 2 9800's and 2 9400's, 2 cat 6060's one cat 6030 and 1 Hitachi 2500 and 1 Hitachi 3200 I think it was
How can that pay for itself, people are forgetting that this guy is probably using the price per gallon that people are being ripped off at the pumps for our cars. These kind of companies probably buy like a ship tanker of diesel at a completely different lower rate.
This is implying the Machine is literally running 365 days a year 24 hours a day.. We all know this is false. ANd the margin of error with his numbers is actually pretty massive
250 refills at a 35 hour capacity for a full tank? That’s 8750 hours. There’s only 8760 hours in a standard year. These machines will probably be running at 10 hours a day maximum. Total fuel usage/cost would only be a fraction of the provided number (but still expensive)
Mining equipment doesn't stop working on site 'cept when the they do an operator switch out. If they are aren't running it least 22 hours a day they are losing money. They typically change the fluids on these beasts with them still running to reduce downtime.
Can you imagine how cheap goods would be if the free energy technologies that were not stolen from us , from Teslas work to the countless inventors who were either bought off or intimidated. Poverty would be eliminated overnight. Not to mention what it would do for the environment
This is why mining, forestry, farming, shipping, even oil rigs and refineries are switching to electric and renewables. The largest, most advanced, deep-off-shore wind turbines are being installed to power off-shore oil rigs. In my area, the local LNG plant is converting their tugboats to battery electric because of the savings on fuel and maintenance. The local ferry service already has new ferries that can switch to battery electric once they finish installing the electricity to the ports (they're currently diesel electric).
What has the price of diesel with the price of electricity to do? The greens want to eliminate diesel oil altogether, so solar and wind will make it, the electricity, much more expensive. And 9800 will not operate at all. The operator will necessarily lose his job. Thank the greens. Put them to work on a treadmill with a generator, transformer, etc Then they will be in shape to make more nefarious decisions .
@@raginroadrunner If you spent 35 years in the mining industry then you know this green stuff is more a power/money-grabbing scam than an honest reality. I've worked in the mines, the oilfield and now moving into the wind and solar fields. Compared to coal and oil RE is the biggest propaganda-driven environmentally damaging scam they have been able to come up with yet. (Also pays out like nothing I have ever worked with before too.)
Not insane at all. Per year 7million to operate, each machine needs to generate over 7 million and your good to go no matter how much equipment in possession. My off the wall thinking.
@@alaefarmestatesllcYep. Komatsu PC4000E-11 for instance. Them giant gold dredgers of 100 years ago either ran a steam engine or an electric motor, both delivering torque no combustion engine at the time even came close to. Mechanically syncing multiple combustion engines would have led to a lot of downtime, if working at all. Bundling the output power of multiple electricity generators was far less complicated and more efficient.
I asked a friend, who owns a large scale dirt moving operation, what his highest operating cost is. Keep in mind, he has a massive 8 bay shop, with overhead cranes, huge yard, a fleet of heavy duty mechanic vehicles and at least 16 employed heavy duty mechanics and welders. Pulling engines, changing heads, welding scraper blades, etc. He told me fuel. He spends ~ $70,000/day in fuel.
@@radius50 $70 K a day for the actual equipment being ran, like multiple Cat scrappers, Cat 772's, excavators, Cat d6 dozers, grader, etc. Fuel cost to run the equipment is the largest single cost. What I mentioned is just overhead. Last time I visited his shop he had a D6 torn apart engine and drive train reuild, scrapper getting a new head and pusher being welded up, 2 - 772's with motors pulled to be sent away, a generator and light tower being overhauled. 100's of thousands dollars in parts and labour, but fuel cost to run the 100's of pieces of equipment when on site dwarfs all of that.
Not buying that. At 70k you'd be looking at over 20k gallon of fuel a day. No one man is owning an operation like that. Being you said an 8 bay garage that tells me he is not a big company. I worked for smaller companies who has triple size that shop and used no where near that amount in fuel. You definitely have that switched he meant 70k a year
@@johnzadinya2181 In the spring to fall season, with over a hundred peices of equipment out along with support vehicles and equipment. Yup, up to $70 k a day. Part of running a large scale heavy equipment operation. You should check out what the fuel costs on mining equipment are, like Oil Sands or even coal, completely dwarf that! 😆
Well, actually they probably pay a fraction on diesel in comparison to the average consumer. Fuel cost consists primarily of middlemen and taxes. These Reels just through out information without telling us how they obtained it nor the limitations of their validity.
Add to this, these machines are completely necessary in order to mine coal, Cobalt, lithium, etc.. for all you electric vehicle people to drive electric vehicles
There's no such thing as "the dedicated nuclear reactor". Reactors are built in many different sizes, completely different isotope and operating designs, operating parameters, output capacities, . . . . . . . . . etc. ......
Probably close to ten million dollars per year per unit when all costs are included, such as labor, insurance, maintanence, parts, inspections, downtime etc. So if they have ten of those, that's 100 million dollars per year. No wonder electricity prices are high lol
Now that is actually why they always drill test holes before they actually dig a site. That machine has to be working towards something; and when it hits minerals, the profits are enormous compared to smaller machines.
Congo has 100000 children digging colbalt by hand .... ain't costing 5 million
I'd say they make money on it instead of it costing lol #slavelabour
by god that genius
...and carbon neutral!
@terrybull4604 ha ha yeah because it's all manual labor .... then they ship it to China and process it there 30% of carbon made there and then sold to Canada to build batteries for e.v.s green energy
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The music volume spiking several times was the real heinous act.
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@@ravenwilliamson7856tard
its so fucking obnoxious
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Sounds like some Hanz Zimmer movie production with that sound 😂
Today I woke up and wondered "how much the Liebherr 9800 fuel consumption costs". Due to that random video now I know!
In a year we will see this on a “15 minutes of useless facts” video. 😂
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It's good to know because the government will try having us foot the bill and say it's a bailout bs situation
Are you comparing this to your Honda? Too soon for a upgrade mate still to your Civic eg
I was in the shower one time and all of a sudden I was like “how much does it cost to run a 9800?” 🤔🚿
“let me get $5 on diesel and a $20 scratcher” 😂
and "just some fries"
Where u trying to go, the next rock?
‘Just a cup of ice!’
were you going on $5? "1 degree of turn...."
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Do they sell this machine at Harbor Freight?
I wouldn't be surprised
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Princess auto maybe? 😄
Yessir 😂
Hope not
had a 79 power wagon that got almost that good on mileage
Good truck if you can afford to fill the tank
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My old bronco would be in the competition. There's more than a few vacuum lines busted up in there. Never could find the will to fix them.
I love 70s dodges. I had a 74 till the
Throttle cable got stuck wide open and sent out through a shop door
@@_not_your_mom bummer
Thank you for not telling us the running cost
If you've ever wondered EXACTLY how much this machine costs to run, you do the math
Costs $5 million to run but probably generates hundreds of millions of dollars in resources.... cost is relative..
Billions
Nope, they're just throwing money down the toilet.
@@Eargesplitten-LoudenboomerLike your device isn't made from mined resources 😂
@@PyroAqua It's not, because I'm super special :3
@@Eargesplitten-Loudenboomer
Special indeed⛑️
Damn, I pay almost as much for groceries every year.
Light shopping?
Maybe cut back on the cheese
No you don't taxpayers do you're on welfare remember
FJB
@@HaroRider03088 FYT!!!!!
Buying that is bigger flex than most super cars😂
All*
All supercars
I’m buying Joe mama
Im pretty sure a Mercedes G65 has an equal gas mileage 😂
@@yorkoxmaul66what is this? 2016?
When they say runs for 35hrs THATS WORKING HRS MOVING CONSTANTLY that's so good yall have no idea how efficient that is
I was thinking of replacing my Kubuta but I think I will hang on to it after watching this.
I think you should replace it. Just bought my Liebherr and it's the best daily driver. Really economical too.
The only thing I don't like is having to climb up so high but at least you have a great visibility.
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🤣🤣🤣
Lol
I used to work in mines of Western Australia, these things are insane, A days work in a kubota maybe a 6 tonner is like only 1 bucket full in the 9800
And the cost rises when they are only half loading the bucket on a pass🤦♂️
That was absolutely embarrassing!
Clearly it not top tier operator, or just scripted filming 😂
Diversity
They are paid by the hour, they don't give a F.
@@Ratkill9000 That means nothing dude, cost to company, company needs so much Tonnage/loads per minute to be able to make profit so they can pay those hourly rates..
That is $22,400 per tank if anyone was wondering
You just answered a question that i didn't even ask myself
He didn’t even really answered his own question tbh
The operator gets 13.50 with benefits, and saturdays off😊
And called privileged for his troubles
I'm sure you're joking, but its quite a bit more than that.
Probably has free diesel for his truck or car, u wouldn't miss a few gallons out of that fuel station.
I bet the operator is making $30-50hr
🤣 20/10 if you're lucky you get 8 out of your 10 days off
Summary of the video
- Here's the answer: Insane numbers
Agree, stupid video
That's... That's not how you use a colon.
@@WhoThisMonkeythere's a joke here about telling a man how to use his colon
whoa you forgot the absolute ear rape at the start of the video too. RIP to headphone users
@@epstein_isnt_dead7726
😮 There was a joke?
Oh no...
Finally, the answer to the question I've been podering my whole life. How much does it cost to run a 9800? NOW I KNOW! thank you!
He didn’t even answer. He gave fuel costs, not running costs. This video is a joke
I love the part where he told us the running cost
Had the Lego model of this. Epic bit of kit!
And is still one of most efficient thing to use including time - effort - money - labour - risk
That monster can do some real shit
Okay, so let's put renewables into perspective. This single digger consumes a quarter of a full size fuel truck a day. In a mine with multiple diggers and supporting vehicles.
1 hour of fuel is 560 liters diesel.
1 liter = 10kWh, so 5600 kW average power
1 solar panel = 400Wp, so 14000 panels
1 hectare holds 3000 panels, so 4.5 hectares
But we want to operate 24/7
Assuming 8 full sun hours/day:
42000 panels
13.5 hectares
plus 1 hectare for the required storage.
And this is just ONE of these diggers. Now put your tesla into the picture and scale things into perspective. Do you even think your 10 solar panels and EV even makes a dent when you have a mine with dozens of vehicles driving around?
Oh and in case you are wondering. A single SMR reactor can provide 300 MW of continuous power and could very well supply the entire mine of energy. It would also require a mere corner in the mine and could be installed in 40 truckloads. It would have an annual saving of hundreds, if not thousands, of full size diesel trucks.
Mankind’s ingenuity is truly awesome.
In California, fuel cost would be $7.8 million, except California wouldn’t permit any mining that could use the 9800. The only mining allowed is the state government mining your wallet.
That’s really funny but sad it’s true
I’m okay with that. Mining makes the land look ugly and broken. Went to Montana for a few ml this and the big pit mine is an eye sore not to mention it polluted a bunch of water.
California is the most engineered state of them all. They issue permits like crazy.
Slave labor is their choice
We have 5 of these in our pit in Australia
Very cool. I've been laying awake at night worrying about this.
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Hi there! Jesus Christ loves you. He is the only way to heaven. May God bless you! 😊
@@Jesus_Christ_loves_you_alot keep your imaginary sky daddy to yourself. Have a great day.
Did you forget how much money these people have to own this equipment😂😂😂😂😂😂Jokes on you
Should’ve opted for the hybrid version…
You don’t need to ad greasing to the bill. Operators don’t grease their machines 😂
I do
Hell no we make the laborers do it😂😂
Right??
The next video will talk about "Down time and what equipment mechanic emergency service calls cost..."😂
Machines like this are now running self greaseing systems. Cuts down time the operator keeps filling the bucket as the machine greases itself as long as grease tank is kept full.
You're not greasing anything manually on this machine.
Do you have the fuel rewards program with the local supermarket? That's like ten cents a gallon in savings
I work with some fair-sized construction companies and they all say that when you start ordering fuel in 100,000 gallon purchases at a time it gets to be around $1.25 to $1.50 a gallon cheaper than what's at the pumps.
Push that to 250,000+ gallons per order and it's about $1.75 to $2 a gallon cheaper.
now add to this, 40db increments between talking
They wont pay retail price like us for fuel though. They'll negotiate cheaper deals.
Just saying for all those environmentalists child labor is carbon neutral so take that as you will
Electric vehicles wouldn't exist without these machines burning 1.3 million gallons of diesel /year.
And the cost will go up when diesel production falls, in line with the reduced usage because we all have EVs now, which will drive up the cost of the materials used to make EVs, and then we won't be able to afford EVs anymore, and the WEF wins.
Neither would anything else you own. Where do you think the bauxite or iron ore for an engine block comes from?
@@lunchboxproductions1183Sure doesn't come from a lithium mine...
@@fredmercury1314hmm, so where do they come from? Does the iron fairy bring it and put it under the pillow of fords CEO?
Out of curiosity, are you always this much of a dipshit? Or was this a special effort to be as stupid as possible ?
Also, gotta love how your argument is “they’ll be more expensive which means the WEF wins” as if the price of fossil fuels won’t continue to go up as they cease to be available
@@vincentgrinn2665exactly I really don't think people think when they bring up these "hypocrisies."
I'd feel the stress of operating that beast. Stop to drop a deuce with no one to take over? That's 2 grand.
I literally understand how much it costs to run a 9800 LESS that I did prior to this clip
That fuel cost is if they’re running it 24/7 with only about 10-15hrs of downtime.
It will be running 24/7.... Only maintenance will stop it.
Same as planes if they're not moving there costing money.
@@Robert-cu9bm Exactly.
Even if the operators and the technicians are paid REALLY well: the labor costs are rather small compared to owning and running such machines.
Hence it's absolutely worth it to work in shifts to get as close to 24/7/365 as possble. To get the absolute maximum work hours out of those machines.
But, isn't the useful life of the machine measured in running hours, not time elapsed from manufacturing? You don't actually get more work out of the thing by packing it into less time.
@@joshjahncke4178 That ignores the fact that better and more efficient machines get introduced over time. Hence you are indeed incentivized to get as much work out of them in as few years as possible.
That and the more stuff you can mine, the higher your profits grow. Higher yearly profits are a measure of competitiveness all on their own, and you really don't want to lack behind your competition.
Thank god your video’s here… i asked myself this morning, “how much does a 9800 cost to run, dammit! I’ll probably never know.”
3rd world countries: hold my child laborers, ima embarrass this man’s career.
This is primarily why EV's are not "Green". This is how you get all those rare metals. This, or 3rd world child labor.
This would be the dirty side of electric car production..
EV is a scam. EV owner ship after 4 years will be sky high of repair
Look up Edisons hybrid diesel logging rig he made for a million dollars out performing teslas rig! Diesels are the happiest at a specific RPM and the most efficient. The only reason diesel engines can be dirty is because they are always in different workloads.
@@tonymai1844Personal vehicles is a scam
@@tonymai1844 huh? are you a little delulu bro? why would they break after 4 years XD there are WAAAAY less moving parts, way less things to go wrong... 10 year old evs with the shitty batteries in those days are still driving without problems idk man... you say its shit but then you look at the facts and ur just wrong. ICE cars fails more often in general
Just wait till you hear about ICE
They should make an electrical version and supply the power directly, on sights where it's possible ofc! Wonder how much cheaper it would get!
i like the part where he tells us the running costs
Don't forget this is how they make your electric car batterys.
Don't forget this is what powers about 20% of your electric grid. You are complicit even without an ev.
Nah, that's what burns in the plant to make power for carbon free cars. The battery chemicalls are dug up by child labour by hand. It's the greenest stuff 😂
@@noonespecial9131Huge difference here is that the dumbasses that scream for electric cars deny it, the "complicit" others you speak of know already and don't try to cover up the fact that it takes fuel to make fuel.
@@TheFishE77Official How is using coal energy to build a battery, (that can be charged at home with solar for years), worse than just burning it to power your microwave and other consumer electronics? One is an investment and the other is just consumed with no future benefits.
@@noonespecial9131look up what happens when water and lithium make contact, then tell me how if we already have a drinkable water shortage now, multiply that issue by 3 times, because that's how much water it takes to put out a lithium fire compared to a regular fire. Let's have trucks full of water with a crane that picks up EV's on fire, submerge them in water that we will never be able to use again and will destroy the ecosystem around it. They're cool and all but you're fucked if it's raining and you get into a semi serious wreck in an EV, shits gonna explode in flames
Holy crap.. the profits must be insane!!!
They wouldn't be doing it if they didn't make more than their expenses.. Insane numbers in maintenance but also profit..
I've done the math on coal mining and could never make it come out how hundreds of yards of overburden can be moved twice, if not 3 times to get a single cubic yard of coal that's only worth forty some odd dollars
By using big machines and they only move it once the 2nd 9800 in this video is doing a strip ratio of 3 to 1 it can remove 350 tonnes in 35 seconds an the coal price you a referring to is a low quality hi ash coal its mining thermal coking coal worth at the time of that video was filmed 4 years ago $600 a ton Australian
If your in canada mining good quality coal or anywhere that doesn't have hi ash coal then its very profitable
@@dalejrjunior1298 strip mining or underground? I know a fair amount about the business because I have helped supply the mine timber and roof boards for decades. I'm in Indiana and for years it was almost all strip mining but in the early '90's everything switched to underground. Used to be a big shovel or 2 running everywhere, now I think there's only 2 still left in the state and I'm not sure if their even digging or just doing reclaim.
@@treemanclint2883 depends if it's a cost ratio to determine strip or underground if it's easier to remove the overburden then go to it directly underground they do that also depends if the deposit is larger than the area they can use on the surface
@@dalejrjunior1298 when I was young, fifty plus years ago, they were stripping 200 plus feet of overburden with the big drag lines. By the 90's in was down to less than a hundred and now it's less than 60 feet with the diesel shovels and they skip past a lot of the margin veins.
The reclamation cost has killed it here. The 100% put back to original, which includes tree planting and wildlife cover, retention ponds, leach ponds, test wells, whole bunch of stuff that cost lots of money
Wow more than I thought
These mines are not paying pump prices. My brother-in-law works for a Hugh mine. They buy 100,000 gallons at a time for half the pump prices.
Thanks for not giving us the answer, but instead posing the question in a different way. As I’m sure you can imagine, it makes your videos very gratifying.
So you entirely failed to actually say how much it costs to run. Giving the numbers you did share, you're saying diesel at $4.35 a gallon for a $22,600 fill up. You said 35 hours of run time per tank, 250 tanks a year, for 364.58 days of run time. Pretty sure they have to turn it off occasionally for maintenance.
When you buy that much diesel, ur not paying pump prices. You get a deal on cost per gallon. $1-2 bucks less a gallon
They need refuelling every 24 hours
And like he said, that's one machine!
Now you need trucks. A LOT of them.
Then a dozer.
Then some road graders.
Probably some wheel loaders.
Don't forget LAND to mine!
And its all $$$ ! 😲
To run one 9800 we would have atleast ten 930 komatsu trucks and 2 d11 dozers at the time when they filmed that 2nd 9800 we had 2 9800's and 2 9400's, 2 cat 6060's one cat 6030 and 1 Hitachi 2500 and 1 Hitachi 3200 I think it was
I never once heard them say insurance, and taxes.
More than 1 dozer for sure
Insurance for what? Driving on the road? @@matthewholzmueller6292
naw. izzat why i had to pay for my soup at the store. ?
naw.
49,21,000 liters of Diesel a year😮😮
As a heavy equipment operator that looks like a dream, yet a nightmare to operate
It cost $270,000.00 to fill up the plane I fly for one long haul flight
Holy schnikey
How can that pay for itself, people are forgetting that this guy is probably using the price per gallon that people are being ripped off at the pumps for our cars. These kind of companies probably buy like a ship tanker of diesel at a completely different lower rate.
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He did his math wrong first off
This is implying the Machine is literally running 365 days a year 24 hours a day.. We all know this is false. ANd the margin of error with his numbers is actually pretty massive
That's why they went to electric shovels at least 100 years ago. 1915.
For that much u better not be getting half buckets 😂
Not bad. Thinking of buying one for my backyard.
“Here’s the answer” then proceeds to not give us an answer…
Your videos are cool, I like them always, but I suggest you talk about the production capacity too...
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Appreciate your comment, Eduardo. Thank you ! And sure, I can include production details soon 🙂
They should make an Electric⚡️Version…they could save a BUNCH of 💰💰💰
Funny, but that EXACT thing was on my mind when I woke up this morning. BLEAH !
250 refills at a 35 hour capacity for a full tank? That’s 8750 hours. There’s only 8760 hours in a standard year. These machines will probably be running at 10 hours a day maximum. Total fuel usage/cost would only be a fraction of the provided number (but still expensive)
Most mines run 24/7 besides down time for maintenance
Mining equipment doesn't stop working on site 'cept when the they do an operator switch out. If they are aren't running it least 22 hours a day they are losing money. They typically change the fluids on these beasts with them still running to reduce downtime.
They run them 24/7 unless they need to work on it.
Yup I work in a mine and it’s 24/7 with a few things
The dragline, crusher, and leibherr
Bro,that machine mix with ethanol or methanol,that can speed up a bit and maybe
I would love operating one of those
How long do you think you could operate one of these on YOUR dime?
Can you imagine how cheap goods would be if the free energy technologies that were not stolen from us , from Teslas work to the countless inventors who were either bought off or intimidated.
Poverty would be eliminated overnight. Not to mention what it would do for the environment
This is why mining, forestry, farming, shipping, even oil rigs and refineries are switching to electric and renewables. The largest, most advanced, deep-off-shore wind turbines are being installed to power off-shore oil rigs. In my area, the local LNG plant is converting their tugboats to battery electric because of the savings on fuel and maintenance. The local ferry service already has new ferries that can switch to battery electric once they finish installing the electricity to the ports (they're currently diesel electric).
Which is a drop in the bucket for what they get out of the mine in general.
can you made a video explaining a cost per ton, compare to construction machine. It might be suprising
Good idea there
Awesome Short. Key-points that were right to the point. Huge Kudos. Keep up the grear work.
Yes it's expensive but it earns me a lot of money from all the excavation it does. So i bought one for my front yard and one for my backyard
Man, that's saving the environment one battery at a time.
And that is why electricity is so expensive.
What has the price of diesel with the price of electricity to do?
The greens want to eliminate diesel oil altogether, so solar and wind will make it, the electricity, much more expensive. And 9800 will not operate at all. The operator will necessarily lose his job. Thank the greens. Put them to work on a treadmill with a generator, transformer, etc Then they will be in shape to make more nefarious decisions .
@@arturoeugster7228 Diesel engines to move coal. I spent 35 years in that mess.
@@raginroadrunner If you spent 35 years in the mining industry then you know this green stuff is more a power/money-grabbing scam than an honest reality.
I've worked in the mines, the oilfield and now moving into the wind and solar fields.
Compared to coal and oil RE is the biggest propaganda-driven environmentally damaging scam they have been able to come up with yet. (Also pays out like nothing I have ever worked with before too.)
No. My electric bill is 3/4 other fees and taxes besides the energy.
@@topduk Yep. Mine is around 1/2 to 3/4 depending on my monthly usage. The actual power consumed is rarely over half the total bill.
Not insane at all.
Per year 7million to operate, each machine needs to generate over 7 million and your good to go no matter how much equipment in possession.
My off the wall thinking.
🍎Wow!....mining's that expensive I'll stick to entertainment.
Just electrify it. Biden says electricity works for everything. Just ask his wife Jill.
It is.
Some of the big mining shovels are electric...
@@calebscott1100for the main engine?
@@alaefarmestatesllcYep. Komatsu PC4000E-11 for instance. Them giant gold dredgers of 100 years ago either ran a steam engine or an electric motor, both delivering torque no combustion engine at the time even came close to. Mechanically syncing multiple combustion engines would have led to a lot of downtime, if working at all. Bundling the output power of multiple electricity generators was far less complicated and more efficient.
@@HansOvervoorde huh interesting. Learn something new everyday. Thanks
Holy shit i thought my 1500 a month for my mercedes was to much god bless em lol
I worked in a warehouse that was a Swedish mining company.....these parts of the vehicles were the size of a house. A small house.
The cost of fuel isnt anywhere near that. Not only do fuel costs greatly vary by lication but theyr not pay the cost you see at the pump....
I asked a friend, who owns a large scale dirt moving operation, what his highest operating cost is.
Keep in mind, he has a massive 8 bay shop, with overhead cranes, huge yard, a fleet of heavy duty mechanic vehicles and at least 16 employed heavy duty mechanics and welders. Pulling engines, changing heads, welding scraper blades, etc.
He told me fuel. He spends ~ $70,000/day in fuel.
Hopefully he’s getting the buying in bulk price. Gets a lot cheaper than buying 20 gallons at a time per gallon lol
That's bs. 70k a day to fuel 16 mechanics? Maybe 70 a year
@@radius50 $70 K a day for the actual equipment being ran, like multiple Cat scrappers, Cat 772's, excavators, Cat d6 dozers, grader, etc.
Fuel cost to run the equipment is the largest single cost. What I mentioned is just overhead. Last time I visited his shop he had a D6 torn apart engine and drive train reuild, scrapper getting a new head and pusher being welded up, 2 - 772's with motors pulled to be sent away, a generator and light tower being overhauled.
100's of thousands dollars in parts and labour, but fuel cost to run the 100's of pieces of equipment when on site dwarfs all of that.
Not buying that. At 70k you'd be looking at over 20k gallon of fuel a day. No one man is owning an operation like that. Being you said an 8 bay garage that tells me he is not a big company. I worked for smaller companies who has triple size that shop and used no where near that amount in fuel. You definitely have that switched he meant 70k a year
@@johnzadinya2181 In the spring to fall season, with over a hundred peices of equipment out along with support vehicles and equipment.
Yup, up to $70 k a day.
Part of running a large scale heavy equipment operation. You should check out what the fuel costs on mining equipment are, like Oil Sands or even coal, completely dwarf that! 😆
Once, after TacoBell, I ran one of those excavators for a whole week, on one single fart.
Well, actually they probably pay a fraction on diesel in comparison to the average consumer. Fuel cost consists primarily of middlemen and taxes. These Reels just through out information without telling us how they obtained it nor the limitations of their validity.
Thats the REASON why....
Some Autobots hate Constructicons
Due to the fuel consumptions.
😅😅😅😅😅
Add to this, these machines are completely necessary in order to mine coal, Cobalt, lithium, etc.. for all you electric vehicle people to drive electric vehicles
Very eco friendly
@@c0348whnyeah, and how is this "sand" you're speaking of extracted from the ground and taken to the mill, good sir?
This is all getting old🖕
Pretty sure phones, computers etc alone out play electric vehicles 😂.. ppl n there statements 🙄...
@@c0348whnalso steel, copper, and plenty of other rare resources.
I googled the fuel consumption of this excavator and the Lienherr website says it has a 19.69L tank which is only 5.2 gallons.
No way... Even a small car has a 50L tank.
Lol it's 19,690L or 5,200 gallons
plainly, you've encountered some form of gross error.
There goes my plans for using the 9800 for my backyard re-do project.
If you think they're paying $4+/gal for diesel you're silly. Buying in bulk with off-road Diesel is much cheaper than pump prices at that scale.
Fun fact: a dedicated nuclear reactor could only power 2 or 3 of these at the same time
There's no such thing as "the dedicated nuclear reactor".
Reactors are built in many different sizes, completely different isotope and operating designs, operating parameters, output capacities, . . . . . . . . . etc. ......
@@harry2928 Dedicated means "used only to power this." Lol. Dumb people trying to sound smart
That machine could probably scoop one hand full of gold that's enough for its fuel and service of a lifetime
Sounds expensive but no mention how much money is made using them .... just a hint they aren't losing money
And everything is going to be electric... When?.... Love the black smoke...
them big yellow dump trucks would be amazing an a zombie apocalypse
Ain’t no
Battery powered electric bs replacing that bad boy
Probably close to ten million dollars per year per unit when all costs are included, such as labor, insurance, maintanence, parts, inspections, downtime etc. So if they have ten of those, that's 100 million dollars per year. No wonder electricity prices are high lol
Think of the money going around to just keep all the equipment running and maintained and then add what the profits would be, crazy crazy number
Yes, but that makes total sense you wouldn’t be digging there if it wasn’t worth ten times as much as what this costs.
these machines have to be turned green by installing solar panels on them. That's UK policy :D
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤BEAUTIFUL MACHINE !!!!!!❤❤❤❤
Let's get into price of those mined mud, where are talking out of world numbers here 😂
Bro really went hard with that sidechain compressor...
Now that is actually why they always drill test holes before they actually dig a site. That machine has to be working towards something; and when it hits minerals, the profits are enormous compared to smaller machines.