How to Install a Channel Drain | Ask This Old House
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- This Old House landscape contractor Roger Cook helps a homeowner solve a driveway drainage dilemma. (See below for a shopping list, tools, and steps.)
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Shopping List for How to Install a Channel Drain:
- 4-inch channel drain [amzn.to/2ZTvUCk], to collect excess water
- End cap [amzn.to/2WghCty] and offset outlet [amzn.to/2vHZ3mt], for attachment to channel drain
- 4-inch-diameter plastic drainpipe and assorted fittings [amzn.to/2WmspSO], to carry water away from channel drain
- PVC primer [amzn.to/2GQcbe7] and cement [amzn.to/2vxt6x3] , for gluing together plastic pipe and fittings
- Ready-mix concrete [amzn.to/2VaSVSS], to form a setting bed for the drain
- Asphalt cold patch [amzn.to/2UVfzJP], for patching the driveway
- Grass seed [amzn.to/2GWhPN4], to plant along trench line
Tools List for How to Install a Channel Drain:
- 4-foot level [amzn.to/2GYiBJC], to mark cutlines
- Water-cooled circular saw [amzn.to/2VF1B3c] with a diamond blade [amzn.to/2PGRiGu], for cutting asphalt driveway
- Shovel [amzn.to/2PHDDPk]
- Wheelbarrow [amzn.to/2Jhr1xn]
- Small sledgehammer [amzn.to/2PElXE8] and brick-set chisel [amzn.to/2ZQE0M2], to chop out rocks
- Pointed brick trowel [amzn.to/2Liqg9E], for smoothing concrete
- Rubber mallet [amzn.to/2LiPNzO], to tap down the drain
- Reciprocating saw [amzn.to/2Y212ho], for cutting plastic pipe
Steps for How to Install a Channel Drain:
1. Mark a straight cutline across the corner of the driveway to indicate the position of the channel drain.
2. Cut through the asphalt with a water-cooled circular saw fitted with a diamond-impregnated blade.
3. Pry up and remove the severed piece of asphalt with a shovel.
4. Use a small sledgehammer and brick-set chisel to chop out any rocks along the edge of the just-cut driveway.
5. Dig a 6-inch-deep trench along the end of the driveway. Shovel the excavated dirt into a wheelbarrow.
6. Glue an offset outlet and a 90-degree elbow onto one end of the channel drain.
7. Glue a short section of 4-inch-diameter plastic pipe and a 45-degree elbow onto the 90-degree elbow.
8. Glue an end cap onto the opposite end of the channel drain.
9. Mix up a bag of concrete in the wheelbarrow.
10. Fill the trench with wet concrete. Smooth the concrete with a pointed brick trowel.
11. Press the channel drain down into the concrete, then check it with a level to ensure it's sloping slightly toward the drainpipe. Tap down the drain with a rubber mallet.
12. Use the trowel to spread an angled wedge of concrete against the back of the drain.
13. Dig a 12-inch-deep trench out from the channel drain and across the yard.
14. Use a reciprocating saw to cut plastic pipe to extend from the drain along the trench. Glue the pipe and fittings together.
15. Check the drainpipe with a level to make sure it's pitched down and away from the driveway.
16. Backfill the trench with soil to conceal the drainpipe.
17. Line the end of the drainpipe with flat stones to deter erosion.
18. Sprinkle some asphalt cold patch between the channel drain and the driveway.
19. Compact the patch with the small sledgehammer, then add more asphalt and compact it again. Repeat until the patch is flush with the surface of the driveway.
20. Plant grass seed along the backfilled trench.
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Neighbor: What’s that 100’ of drain pipe for?
John: So I can funnel all the water from rain storms over to your house.
Had a guy do that do me once. I plugged up the end of the pipe.
Possibly his backyawd.
I'd have to run 30 feet of PVC pipe from the driveway, through the bathroom window into the back of the toilet. Would that be up to code? Assuming I don't live in Bangladesh.
Drainage tile and defrib would have disbursed water the length of the lot.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing, his neighbors yard is clearly a few feet away from the end of the run... lol
I'm sure the neighbor will appreciate them directing all the drain water down to their back yard.
Thought the same thing. Could have routed that down the side of the drive or cut the drive to get it to the street. Judging by the rut it cut, that's going to be a lot of water entering the neighbors property.
I saw that ! Soon they will have a new lake :)
Two suggestions for this project: 1) Cover the grate of your channel drain while you’re working to prevent cement/asphalt from getting in. 2) Place a termination vent cap at the end of your PVC to keep rodents out.
Great video!
Great suggestion. Thanks
Was about to say one small animal goes in that way and its all over
what about the fact that you're dumping right into the neighbors lot. not cool
Nice drain install. One comment: I used to be a paving contractor and my comments are based on experience.
Do not ever use a bag of that cold mix asphalt. It is absolute garbage. Cold mix is designed for one thing and one thing only, not matter what you’ve seen or heard.
Cold mix is designed as a temporary material to fill potholes in wet climates during wet weather. It is not made for what he just did. When the weather warms up and drys out, the cold mix is removed and a proper hot mix repair is made.
Asphalt cement is a solid when cold (the black part of the pavement). Asphalt streets, parking lots and driveways all use Hot Mix asphalt. When asphalt cement is hot, it is fluid like and the pavement can be raked smooth then compacted with rollers.
When hot mix asphalt cools, it becomes hard and you can drive on it in a short period of time.
Cold mix asphalt uses a solvent to make it pliable while cold. It does not compact well and takes a year or two to fully cure. The solvent has to evaporate away. When it does you’re left with terrible partially compacted pavement that water will flow through.
I’ve installed many of those exact drain systems. Cutting the asphalt first like he did was perfect.
To finish this install, he should have just used the concrete. I can’t figure out why he didn’t. 2” to 4” of a concrete border on both sides of the drain box supports the drain better and water will terminate into the drain better than even hot mix asphalt could perform.
At least you explained yourself. When other people just say "you're doing it wrong".
@@1971mav Seriously. For a new homeowner like me, this was really helpful to at least explain what was wrong with the cold patch.
@herbiesnerd, you can tell just by how poorly it compacts down that it’s garbage.
I need to do something similar to my house. My channel drain will be between the outer part of the concrete garage floor, and the driveway pavement. Can I just do what this video showed too, but use a 2" concrete border on each side of the drain? thanks
I agree. I never saw the cold patch coming. I thought he would have filled it in with concrete as well.
He ran the pipe so it drains in the neighbors house behind him, he is a great neighbor.
"Lets Staaat by caaavin out this channel" I love and miss roger and all of his videos.
I like when he works on the yawd!
"Let's take and staaaat by caaaaavin out this channel"- FIFY
“Let’s put a trench drain in. Then......we’ll drain the S.O.B. onto the neighbor’s property. You good with that.....? “
I was a camera man on this shoot and believe it or not the neighbor asked us to flood their property because recent caloric testing revealed that their grass had low thc levels.
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This edition of This Old House really helped me with rain water draining concerns! I decided to buy the "new" house on top of the hill and let everyone else build the drains. 😉
Need some kind of wire screening on the lower end to keep the critters out of the pipe. An open pipe like that makes a very nice nesting area.
CHARLES: GREAT point and I am VERY surprised that Roger did not think of that!
Some people say no, but with it emptying into a wetland, muskrats, and such would an open pipe a great nesting spot until the first heavy rain.
Yeah, you get a lot of that on the This Old House site as well as most of TH-cam. Just ignore them, I do.
Charles Damery exactly what I was wondering!
If he'd put a screen cap at the end, leaves and any kind of trash that
might get in the drain would get stuck at the screen and clog up the
pipe though.
He solved it alright....right into the neighbors yard.
It went their anyway. No difference.
could drop gravel to break up some of the waters speed
“Ok John I think that does it. I just solved your drainage problem”..rain came and neighbor is calling John to ask about his new Lake on his property.
Crooked Level 🤣🤣🤣
Good way to stay in business. Fix a problem by creating a new one
What I like the most about all your videos is that your host is not afraid to get dirty, they work honest and solid. Thanks.
And now the neighbor is thrilled to have all that water jetting at his shed.
My favorite part of the videos is reading all the professional comments. I feel like learned just as much reading as i did watching!
I’m a landscape contractor but I still like to watch these videos for fun!
If I was the neighbor and saw this going on I'd high tail it to the home store and get me a 4 inch drain cap.
The connector end (bell end as he called it) of the pipe should've faced the other way (connected the the pipe off of the 90 at the drain). That way trash won't get stuck at the connecting joints. Also a screen cap at the very end to keep critters from crawling in.
Now his neighbor below him needs a rowboat.
HELLRAISER just what I thought lol
i saw that too
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If he'd put a screen cap at the end, leaves and any kind of trash that might get in the drain would get stuck at the screen and clog up the pipe though.
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I love coming to the comment section of This Old House videos to read how people would have done it differently
For all the trouble they went to trenching to the neighbors fence line, would have been better off going half the distance, putting in a tee and running two perforated pipes surrounded by gravel, creating a leach field.
Or a dry well, yeah. In many places it's illegal to dispense too close to a neighbor's property.
very good call
"...what you can do now is come behind me and start filling it in..all the way to the top...." 😂🙄😂🙄😂
Of the ASSphalt
z shutup boomer
@z its just a little harmless humor I don't understand your problem
I knew it that we would have this comment, it’s so funny 😂
I've learned a lot about so many things watching your videos. Well done. Thanks. I've even learned about stuff I didn't know existed which has given me some great ideas on projects around the house.
I saw this video years before I purchased my house. Now I got the exact same problem in my home and this has just been a life saver. The folks before me let it go too long.
The drain channel should have continued across the brick path as well. Good news is the neighbor converted his backyard to a pond and it never runs dry.
"I have an idea. I think what we'll do is collect the water up there at the driveway, put it on an underground pipe and run it out to back of the yard INTO YOUR NEIGHBORS PROPERTY"
"That sounds great to me...
Yes but now the guy can be hired by the neighbor to stop the flooding. Great business plan
I like the topic of the video, the way in which it was explained, the hands-on experience gained, and appreciate seeing how it properly promotes how someone should train or provide advice to a person being helped.
As I had noticed in the comments below, the actual work was not properly conducted which is unfortunate.
It's freaking good enough for what's needed. You don't need to spit-shine or powder it's a little butt, just stuff it in the ground and let the water drain.
It would be a MIRACLE in heaven to get these guys in my home!
It's hard to find quality people, especially who can speak English.
A good video on a simple drainage system. I would concrete the daylight opening in place because you will get corrosion there to and people walking over it.
that neighbor is going to love all that water gushing into his yard
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Looks like the flow path is aimed right at the building in the background. Great job at solving one problem only to create another one:) Perhaps they should have put a dry well in at the end of the pipe to avoid this?
Yeah ! What about the property behind them?
Wow! This was really helpful! My friend felt like a drain but this cheered her right up. Thanks!
Hi jackburnley have you become a flat earther yet? If not I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.
And now when the neighbor wants to solve the water problem you just gave them, they can glue on a 6 inch pipe cap to stop water coming in their yard. Very inexpensive for them...
Hahaha
hey tool guy, you definitely are a tool...this method has exponentially increased flow to the neighbours side instead of dispersing in his own yard..
Who cares about the neighbor? What's your solution? Change the pitch of the property? On TH-cam everyone's a fucking pro!
6 inch caps over a 3.5 inch pipe? why?
NC because more is better?
man that's some nice topsoil wish i had stuff like that to dig through
Jonathan Kosyjana - I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed...that was some terrific lawn soil.
You aren't the only one. I have 5 maple trees in my front yard. Just replaced a water line and honestly, I was ready to just cut the trees down and say screw the roots.
...but instead I took all freakin' day and hand dug to keep from damaging the roots too much. There was no "go out past the drop edge to avoid important roots" stuff, because the edge of one tree's drip line is another tree's drip line.
That, an I could've thrown a couple hundred pots with all the clay out there.
The things we do to save a couple bucks.
It’s like fresh manure
dude iv dug in some spots in the foot hills of the angelas crest ( la crescenta ) to the workers in the area its just called rock crescenta there"s not 2 inch"s of soil with out hitting granite rocks.. takes 2 weeks to dig a 6 foot hole 2 guys shovels and coring out rocks to break and toss out the hole .. with out heavy duty equipment which wasent accessible in location... ridiculous. brings in the bucks tho . as long as your expecting it in your bid
Yes true, that trench job soil was stuff you’d only see in a kids fairytale book.
No test?? How anticlimactic!
It would've been so satisfying to see them flow some water down the driveway, into the drain, and watch it drain out the end of the pipe. :(
Exactly!
I would love to see the runoff drain into the neighbor's house also...
Lol.. Imagine those two guys zipping their pants open and start peeing in it for test ;)
How to pour cement on sloping driveway.
great video! good craftsman ship, this guy knows his stuff.
Love the water sprayer addition to your wormdrive skilsaw
As a Polydrain trench drain sales engineer, I recommend a concrete shoe to lock the trench drain in place. Plumbing engineers insist that the bell end face the water source & the spigot face downstream. Precast trench drain inverts this preferred configuration. However, in this application it should suffice.
Not knowing what a concrete shoe is, I looked it up. Now I know it is a technique used by the mafia.
right, because in this application the water and debris are far different then in every other application. truthfully, this old house is not a good source for how to information but a good indication of the kind of work you get from a 'handyman'.
We install a lot of trench drains in the concrete floors we pour for homeowners garages and commercial garages. It is a little bit of a process to get the installation right. But not too hard to do. Nice video.
Love your videos man
The comments section, always a hoot ! We all are so smug, including me.
Rodgers tasks are always the best. Stay strong !
You guys are awesome and amazing.
God bless y'all
Now it's your back neighbours problem, way to go.....
+Angela Mulder i like gardening but landscaping in our world is a very regressive thing,it hate it
+Angela Mulder The water is going downhill either way. Now its not cutting a rut through their backyard. Besides, I'm pretty sure that was a ditch at the bottom.
+wrstlr119 Before, it had a whole yard of surface absorption. Point source pipe discharge is very different than natural surface runoff.
How bout punching some holes in the drain pipe for a leech-field style dispersion of water -will that work
I'm sure your neighbor loves you....
Put the last pipe in backwards. Higher(uphill) pipes should progress downslope with the male end at the bottom, essentially pouring into the and being accepted by the female part of the next pipe in the series and so on. Doing it the way Roger does it here forces the water to flow over the lip of the pipe below it and creates the possibility for damming of sediment and potential failure of that connection over time from either frost heave(because the pipe is clogged due to that sediment dam the backwards connection creates in side the pipe), or from adhesive failure because water is allowed to flow directly into the glued joint, which is facing uphill when it should be facing downhill.
That's a good tip to remember. I would of never thought of it that way.
I was thinking the same thing.
Oh my goodness! This is exactly what I need. Great video!
Boy I'm glad they didn't show us this in our apprenticeship program. Really asking for problems here. Next week they'll be on court tv.
i have a 12 page paper to write for tomorrow, i have no idea how i got to this video
We're sure it was a great paper! hahaha
Sherkhan Nasim procrastination always works for me.
Lmao me rn
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Cut a piece of window screen to wrap around the end of the pipe and pop a straight coupling over the screen and end of pipe to help with clogging and small vermin nesting. Don’t glue the coupling, so you can change the screen if needed, just tape it with some gorilla tape, you know, what duct tape used to be. Peace
I was waiting for the, “hey! We’re workin here!“
That seems really simple you made it look like anyone can do it, great video
It's 1:29 AM and i'm 17 why am i watching this
Edit: This is actually pretty interesting, i'm going to subscribe.
LMAO. At least you're actually educating yourself with some Hands-On work unlike the school system does for anybody.
Q: Can you do a mini stream channel type like in the old days?
So there'll be this little stream that's half watering your garden and half going away (and sort of look pretty)?
And why does nobody do that?
I just put one of these in. Took me six hours just to dig the 108 foot trench - not enough space for a ditch-witch. I’ve also never encountered so much rock and construction trash left under the layer of topsoil!
Ask-this-old-house-never fails, Thanks TOH!!!!
A few comments: a screen on the end will collect debri and clog the pipe, best to leave it open. Tape the top grate with duct tape to keep debri out when back filling. They should have done a straight run. Less chance of debri getting stuck at the 45's. They could use a 2x4 end to compact the cold ash fault.
ash fault?
I should be asleep rn but hey now I know how to install a channel drain
Good for you, your soil is super soft, I need a huge heavy pickaxe to get into it and I fetch so many rocks in it.
You made that look so easy!
Nice job! I liked everything you did but would have been great to see concrete flush with the top of the drain. That asphalt cold patch (mix) as you call it is not a good long term solution.
The people that were commenting about the glue and the primer getting mixed up are not familiar with the different types of glue. The cleaner is clear and there is a type of glue that is BLUE that is made for drainage.
It is not just small leaves, but how about keeping squirrels and other small critters from getting in there?
people are probably thinking of the purple primer and getting it mixed up with the hot blue glue
Yup, I thought they were doing it wrong!
If people don't know, they shouldn't misinform...
Excellent job thank you for sharing!!!!
Gotta Love This Old House
Would have liked to see it in action!!!
I would definitely put a frog flap or similar on the end of the outlet to remove the chance of rats or other rodents getting in. As pointed out it would appear that he has joined the pipe the incorrect way. Overall though a good solution as long as he is permitted to drain off into that area. Check your local government regulations before you do this at your own place
Like Charles said. Put a slotted plastic end on that. I've done that. If you want it to be removable then a couple of short screws will hold it on.
I need this guy in my life.
Perfect solution! Drain it into the neighbor's yard! 🤣
Excellent channel. Congratulations. I see you from México. A suggestion: would be useful to put subtitles in Spanish because many people in Mexico see your channel. Sometimes some technical words in English or some expressions are hard to understand. I’m sure if you put subtitles, many people in Latin America will follow the channel. Thanks.
We're off to a nice clean stahht! Wicked hahht!
Nice work. A stone work path would look good there to complement the garage foundation.
I would of loved to see it in action
dont put the 45 on right away with glue, if your angle is off by a little on the 45 the long straight pipe will be raised a few inches at the very end causing pipe to lift on shorter straight. dry fit, mark with Sharpie then glue.
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I'm sure he dry fir it long before we saw him glue it.
experienced person would take 4 hous. no idea like I : 2 days. Very informative thankyou
Nice job! Before i knew this channel i didn't know about the existence of cold asphalt. Good stuff.
It is not good stuff. It is good temporary stuff.
off to a nice clean stahhht
Problem solved...or is it? I guess we’ll never know. Now all that water is the back neighbor’s problem!
Asfalt patch, never heard of it, but I'm gonna start using it. The concrete patches tend to crack a lot.
sick. gotta do something like this one day
I'm not a professional, but I know cold patch isn't exactly water tight. Wouldn't most of the water seep thru the cold patch? I would filled that gap between the drain and driveway with the left over concrete and smoothed it out.
As mentioned at the beginning of the video, water flows through there pretty fast so it shouldn't effect the clod patch too much and if it does, you just use more cold patch, easy fix.
James Brown why didn’t he just butt the drain tray up to the concrete ??
Maybe that area of cold patch slows the water down so it doesn't launch right over the drain.
Install a dry well on the property to prevent erosion on his neighbors property.
What about critter screen on the end of the pipe and a clean out or two along the length in the case of a blockage. Just a thought. Thanks for the great videos.
Love you guys best show on tv and the web
I used to be a paving contractor. I’ve installed a few of these types of drains before. They work extremely well. I liked everything he did except for the final touch.
Don’t ever use a bag of cold mix asphalt except to do a temporary fill in a pothole. Ever. It’s crap. Absolute crap.
I don’t know why he used that crap. I know, when I first started out, I used to use it to. It’s just garbage.
Concrete is the ONLY finish he should have used in the end.
I've never gotten it to work, I always use it as filler before using multiple coats of wet patch above and then driveway sealer to top it off
3:30 “We gotta come down a little bit on the end” pulls out a mallet and starts pounding it down
He lightly tapped it..
Another great way of solving this issue!
Tell that to the neighbors....
How do you deal with silt building up in the drain? I have a ditch lined with used metal roofing roof cap so no silt drains in along the route, but silt comes from the entry ditch I dug to channel watering runoff from my keyhole garden with a soaker hose - as well as heavy snowfall runoff that lasts months.
I guarantee at least 50% of the water will just run right over that grate...no backstop and sudden drop, huge driveway...water is probably flowing fast and heavy.
thechosendude Thats why he used a 4in pipe. should work perfectly.
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Nice to neighbors over, then he has the problem.
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Right into the neighbors yard 🤣
This system spilts the total amount of water, not all the water goes down the drain; and his house is on a slope. During severe rain the water would flow downhill into his neighbors yard either way...
Good job and I learn something I didn't know
Love this video. I may have to do this exact drainage project for the exact same reason. I just gained a plethora of knowledge.
I am so happy to see this less expensive way. If I had to buy all the French Drain piping it would be so expensive for a few acres. This has just saved me so much money and it will go into a ditch by the road.
Call the free number to have your utilities located before doing this.
They also should have added a clean out.
Doesn't the guard come off the channel drain?
I love this show, however the PBS station in Pittsburgh WQED channel 13 fell off the radar screen and can't get this nice information any longer, bummer. Love this old house, and I also love Todays Homeowner with Danny Lipford to.
Love the style of the video
5:16 if you’re from England this funny af
lol :D
Neighbor now has waterfront property.
House boat
Ive learned alot from Roger Cook, even the New England accent!
I'm buying an 75 year old house on a 120 year property so this channel is getting more interesting.
How's it going?
BTW ericallen have you become a flat earther yet? If not I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.
flooding your neighbors she shed
Luckily they have statefarm insurance or whatever it is!
why not just place the drain channel up against the fresh cut asphalt and use black silicone to seal it? It would look much better
yes you are correct, but the problem is, this guy is useless
I think he wanted fresh asphalt on both sides to lock it down. If it is against old driveway then the one side is just butted against it and not locked in with fresh packed filler..
Lasts longer. It's a heavy walking area, so best not to use lightweight silicone
Pretty cool I take the channel drain I have it run into my pond
We're off to a nice clean staht.
Shouldn't drains be laid on a bed of gravel?