Hate them or love them, the Afrikaners did a far better job at protecting the sovereignty of this country and running it properly. As a black person I must condemn apartheid and all that came with it but I'm not blind to the fact that our country is now on a downward spiral and has been since the liberation movement took office.
It's constant race politics that keep us distracted while incompetent and corrupt politicians bleed our economy dry and take advantage of us in every possible way. We could be a great country if it weren't for that, and it's sad to see this. But you and I both know the race politics will never end.
I have a serious question for you. If in an alternate universe, there was a South Africa with the current constitution apart from ONE difference; that only whites could be elected to parliament and take up government positions, would you take it over the current situation.
You mean the Dutch and the collective European countries that built their bases (proxy servers) in Africa as else where in the world to populize themselves and claim ownership of the world.
As black people watching this portal into the past, historical contexts aside, none of us can deny that Joburg in the 70's LOOKED a lot better than it does now. Cause nowadays, unless you're rich and can afford to live a more affluent area of the city, Joburg is not fit for human habitation. It sucks on just about every conceivable level. And I hate that because I'm black, I have to pretend that that's not the case. That it's "not so bad." Is this what it's come to? That we have to defend a toxic hell-hole of a city because it's governed by people with the same skin tone as us? People, I might add, who couldn't give two fucks about you or your opinion of their competency. People who would sell you to the highest bidder (which they do often btw) at the drop of a hat. Is this the best we can do as black people? Are we so defiant in our struggle with our own shortcomings that we can't even acknowledge that something merely LOOKED better in the past?
My brother or sister, I can't tell because I'm a Cape Town "coloured" and I suck at African languages... Thank you for this message. It was very introspective and honest. It was actually a heart-wrenchingly sad comment to read but I hear you. If these were "my people" governing my country into oblivion I would also be struggling with that same shame. But YOU are "my people". This isn't a case of black people running the country into a sh*thole graveyard. It's a case of underqualified individuals who weaponise race to stay in power, and to deflect its responsibility for ruining our beautiful country. This is sadly why many of us vote for people who look like us instead of for policies we believe in. They have kept us divided along racial lines because together they know we will no longer stand for their corruption. I love you my brother or sister. I truly hope their are more like you out there
Just to add to that many and I mean many of us as whites wanted to just live with each other.I remember in that so called bad times.We had such beautiful times in Hillbrow. Not looking at colour( All races lived it up and had a ball!!!)We can still make it work and get OUR!!! COUNTRY TO BE GREAT!!!! BELIEVE ME ITS SO EASY🤗🤗🤗😭
As a white South African, I don’t ask to bring back Apartheid, where racial segregation was a thing, but I do ask to bring back where everything looked clean and had good economy.
Your statement is a oxymoron, apartheid was the reason for the orderliness , African corruption incompetence disordeliness and laziness was held at bay by apartheid!
@janmale7767 Wrong. Apartheid was the system of losers. Even Rhodesians were disgusted at it. The failure of Apartheid South Africa to cooperate led to its downfall. The African majority had self respect to not accept being second class. The ANC failed not the majority African population.
@@AbdirahmanIdris-ku9xmwrong! Apartheid was the system of people, who were not biased, but directly and honest and had the courage not to close their eyes to reality !Under Apartheid the country was blooming ten spyte van sy internasionale isolatie! Todays state of the country is just like adding 2 plus 2! It is natural: just look at the rest of Africa!
I lived in Johannesburg from 1972 to 1975 as an Australian expat. The city and suburban areas were truly wonderful, very clean and well maintained . First I lived in Doornfontein then in a suburb called Mayfair and finally in Joubert Park , down the road from Hillbrow. I can only imagine what all these places are like nowadays, but from what I 've heard Joubert Park is a cesspool and unfit for human habitation. Very sad how a truly wonderful city has hit rock bottom, due to the usual 3 functions of civil servants, corruption , incompetence and arrogance.
I stayed there for 2 years...it's dirty now...the Doorfotein train station got destroyed during the covid period...there's a lot of mugging there now...it's no longer a pleasant place to live
I couldn’t agree more. I love my home country but it just isn’t for those who want to get far in life without having to deal with problems that we shouldn’t have to deal with everyday. Like loadshedding which just happened to be what we experienced today for 2-3 hours😂. It’s such a joke and that’s why we are immigrating soon.
Its not up to Government to build the city buildings. It was and still is the private sector who develops inner cities to be taxed by the local and state government. What I find sad is that since democracy in 1994, the ANC never built 1 extra state hospital or university to plan for the burgeoning population. The result is over crowding and under funded institutions. As for a disfunctional rail network, the blame lies with the people who plunder, destroy and loot the infrastructure which my tax money provided for them .
@@tantalisinglabrat thanx for the enlightening but i feel like current private sector are in line with the government so they haven't built any city 💯I'm not gonna say much about tax coz there's a lot collected annually, but it's not enough coz of corruption and some leaving the state
They didn’t have to. They bought buildings that would otherwise kill people if they fell, and they filled them with government workers. Building skyscrapers is vanity
@alejandro brunner Savagery? Your anger is worrying. You are in desperate need of a psychiatric evaluation. Joburg has morphed into a quintessential conurbation, which literally means it's developing rapidly in its periphery and surrounding metropolis. Unfortunately along with that and incontrollable immigration, the inner city has taken a hard knock.
@alejandro brunner Johannesburg is developing outwardly. it's a quintessential conurbation. Unfortunately with that, much like LA and Detroit, the inner city has taken a hard knock as business presses northwards.
@@muragegitari6052 Funny how every successful city was built on "the backs" of africans but when africans govern themselves there are no such cities. Sub-saharan Africa is a worse place to live than Rome 2000 years ago.
@@muragegitari6052 On the backs of white people. The communities were segregated, remember? Apartheid was basically about white people having their own safe spaces which constituted only a tiny fraction of the country. But even that had to be taken away.
The said part of that is, if you were black, police would stop you and ask you why are walking in town after 6pm. Even be jailed if you didn't have ID.
I arrived in Johannesburg in 1974. The city and suburbs were truly amazing, very clean, well managed and well maintained: the best city in Africa and one of the best cities in the world. Parts of the then vibrant city streets (shown on this video) are today a cesspool and unfit for human habitation. How tragic!
As a person who lives in Johannesburg, I find it very strange that everyone says these places are unfit for human habitation and I’m very much a human.
I wish I grew up in South Africa without the ridiculous crime rates, without a corrupted government, without all of the preventable issues if only the people of SA start to realise how much more we could possibly be. Sad... PS: South Africa is a lovely place on it's good days if you know what I mean. The food, the people, the culture, it's unmatched. Such diversity.
The formation of "South Africa" was a crime against humanity. The crime still continues, that is why it must burn 🔥 so we can live peaceful lives, in harmony with nature
@@mongezigongo8893 I am 100% against racism. I was born in 97', throughout primary school and high school I never saw color, because I mostly went to school with black kids, and I saw everyone as equal. My parents were not racist either so it was never a problem growing up, yes my forefathers probably were part of the apartheid regime, but I never knew it, nor experienced it myself. Unfortunately the generation I was born in now has to suffer the consequences of the actions my family and other white families did back in the day... I myself am in a 3 year relationship with the most beautiful lady I have ever met, planning on getting married. We face problems in our daily lives because I am white and she is black. I went a bit off topic but the point is if there could be a place and time in South Africa, where everyone can let go of the past, move forward and unite as one, I would love to be there.
@@steventheologo you make solid points about unity but you have to understand that people can't just forget the past of how they got here in the first place. It sounds cliche but that's the simple truth.
@@mongezigongo8893 But generally we black people dont like cats, dogs, snakes, tokoloshes, we hate living in the dark, we forgot how to use fire for cooking, we only want white mans shoes and clothes, we are drugged by commercial beers etc etc etc HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO LIVE WITH NATURE?????? When all is burnt and everyone gone. You the same guy that will ask: "waat mus can hairpen"
A retired White colleague of mine once told me with sadness in his face, that he still sees the old South Africa in his dreams, and because of that, he knows that the South Africa he once loved, still lives in his heart 😢!
I remember as a kid driving through Hillbrow with my Mom in the late 90s, run down by then, talking about how she lived and went to Uni in the City, and went out partying at night. I used to say there’s no way you lived here. Now with all these videos I can totally believe it. How incredibly sad.
Born in 1980, seating on those Benches on Joubert Park, the smell and taste of a freshly baked Steak n Kidney Pie or Samoosa on Eloff street, the smell of new clothes for sale on those beautifully maintained stores, back when one could smell the scent of a brand new toy on sale nearby...back then when going to Jozi CBD was an outing and a half,one had to bath and look spiff👌🏿 the sight of those maroon and white double decker busses, the sound of the BigBen by the old Post Office. It’s just a pity we were segregated,marginalized,oppressed as Black People,WHITES had that whole town to themselves and the city was well kept and in pristine condition...no littering,no loitering,stormwater drains worked effectively,no sideway hawkers,taxis obeyed the law and there was order. As much as I HATE APARTHEID and its everlasting effects,I will give it to my oppressors THEY BUILT A WORLD CLASS CITY...until 1994 happened and the whole shit turned upside down,as a Soweto Native I’m scared to walk in my very own town...why...??? Coz WE FUCKED IT UP ROYALLY. If only we could look at ourselves as BLACKS and admit to just how messed up we are(we can’t blame apartheid forever-again,I HATE what that despicable system did to the mind of a darkie) it’s as though we don’t know what the difference is between clean and Dirt...Partly,Apartheid is to blame, to hate ourselves so much that we would deem it natural and acceptable to dump paper,plastic,beer bottles where add to that our AFRICAN brothers and sisters who came from independent and squalid living conditions,worse than what Joburg is presently. All it’s gonna take is educating our people about the importance of cleanliness and Hygiene. I still love my Jozi and have hopes that one day we shall see it return to its beautiful beautiful days.
Segregation isn't oppression unless you believe you have some kind of right to access other peoples' civilizations & institutions, which in reality is just conquest. Which is exactly what the end of apartheid represented, black conquest of Whites. Are Whites oppressed because they're not granted unlimited access to Zulu villages & institutions? Because Zulu want to protect their people & culture. And I mean, look at South African now, all the people who defended apartheid were proven correct
ANC destroyed this great city, as a South African you are a foreigner in this city... Infrastructure development and maintenance was last done by the apartheid regime.It hurts a lot when you look at it in the 70's because it is a reminder of how the government is failing it's citizens..sorry to say this but it's like ANC is proving why apartheid regime wanted to keep our great nation out of the leadership of black people, I mean even when we vote there are certain mentality people who vote ANC even when it's giving us misery and poverty...Black people don't want to wake up and smell the coffee, ANC fought for themselves while real activists died for freedom and it's sad because if those activists don't affiliate with the ANC they are simply forgotten and sidelined by famous ANC members..The struggle was for ANC members to get a blank cheque and steal without fear and loot our taxes with pride while ignorant black people cheer them on.
There are no blames. it is just how it should be at the end of the day to be honest. In the apartheid era, although with a terrible regime that HAD to end, the government knew what it meant to run a country and grow a country. There was experience. They (white people) came from a long line of governing countries for hundreds of years. Thats where the experience comes from, where as African's from here who have never gone through that experience had the responsibility to run an entire country. That is why the regime didn't want to give the country to the hands of Black people. They did not understand the importance, there was anger because they couldn't live like this and that had turned in to greed, therefore we have corruption. Mistakes will continue to be made, but that is how one learns. And hopefully the part of South Africa that doesn't understand what it means to run this country learns out of these mistakes. There is only God and Hope, that's all.
it only looked this great because it was mainly a white populated area so all the finances could be used to make it nice, try to find how the places they left for black people looked. Horrible, because the care wasnt taken so ofcourse when people come into power who grew up from there they are going to want to take it all for themselves as that is what was done to their areas. Common sense
Those WERE the days. I grew up in Hillbrow and it was amazing, train trips and to watch the view. Carefree with lots of clean places to go out at night. Hillbrow and the city had life💝💝💝
Apologies for raining on the nostalgia parade. I grew up in Johannesburg and the video and music do not depict Johannesburg in the 1970"s. Trams were circa 1960's. The cars in some sections also look much earlier, ie 1960"s? Who could forget Carlton Centre and the swanky movie houses. I also used to train at the Hillbrow Swiming Pool, which was below the Summit Club, and walk home at 21:00 to a residential hotel in the CBD, (very safe, except for some harmless men who would offer me a 'lift'. We would dance at various clubs in Hillbrow, including Bella Napoli, The Glass Slipper, Plumb Crazy, and many others, and end off with a swcharma from Bimbo's or roast chicken and fresh rolls at abut 5am at Fontana Highpoint. New Year;s Eve was the biggest street party ever. Everybody had a great time, the police were always around but it was always a great vibe. Aaah, such great memories . Gave that up when one New Year''s Eve in the 1990's a fridge crashed to the street from a highrise building and we found Smit Street covered in shattered glass from bottles thrown from flats. The end of that era!!
I am from Mozambique and i remember in tne 90s i used to hear migrants tell wonderful stories about how beautiful and good it was. So i grew up hallucinated and wanting desperately to visit Joburg. Not New York, JHB. I managed it in December 2020 and when i got there i was totally disappointed: Dirty streets and dirty and neglected buildings in contrast with what i had grew up hearing. I found the arquitect of the buildings outdated. Even in Maputo we have like 4 or 5 modern modern buildings. I stayed in a cheap hotel and it was noisey, smelling weed all over the stairs. The streets are scary: people drinking alcohol and smoking as opposed to what i had heard back in the 90s, when they said ""you dont drink or throw garbage on JHB streets because you got punished"". Now South Africans will just live in their nostalgy of these beautiful videos. In my opinion, ANC bad policies and migrants helped ruin this beautiful town.
@@collinsghambi7315 be honest with yourself, some south africans reject their own fault on migrants! I have visited Jozy in 2016, we visit nelson mandela house in johannesburg, eat in restaurants in the suburbs, but me and my west africans colleagues were so affraid by blacks south africans in the streets of soweto with their behaviours, its was really obvious that this is an education problem! by the same time, there is a division in black society between poors and richs. On my opinion of one month in jozy, Blacks who deals in the malls and poors who eats in the streets are two parts of the same piece but dont deals each others enough, their is a new segregation between a little part of richs blacks and the majority of poors blacks who destroy the standard living of the country because they are leaved appart by the government of SA! i am not a migrant by the way!!
@@collinsghambi7315 - that's the most absurd comment I read here. It really is amazing that these eco chambers get applied in the same type of situation all over the world: a country's economy starts going to shit, the political class does nothing right, keeps getting wealthier and is regularly caught in corruption scandals that hurt the local taxpayers and who do the locals blame? - migrants. It really is the same tape everywhere!
If it makes u feel better, NYC is a dump now, too. So are most American big cities b/c it's lead & ruined by corrupt leaders. I think SA became known as the infant r*p* capital of the world in the late 90 or early 2000s.
Wow, what a stark reminder of how peaceful and well maintained the city was then! We see black & white people going about their business in a peaceful and contented way. The city is clean and everything is well maintained - a far cry form what we see today! Thanks to the ANC, who have had every opportunity to make the previously oppressed people's lives better, it's now an absolute sh*t-hole! The ANC puts it's own greed above the needs of it's people, and things continue to spiral downwards. Sad, but true! When will all South Africans wake up and start supporting a government that puts it's people first, and takes colour out of the equation? It's no longer about colour - it's about pride, honour, capabilities, intent, and execution of duties. We can no longer tolerate lies, theft, and non delivery!
@@lawsonhellu4718 You think Black people weren't protesting Apartheid at the time? The 1976 Soweto Uprising? The Mass strikes that erupted when Black workers finally unionized in the 70s? There was so many demonstrations in the 70s. Black People were discontent and oppressed. It's so weird of ya'll to call that peaceful.
@@tshepisoramushu5450 I was just being ironic I know that there has been protests that's why i was responding to him ironically cause he said it was peaceful back then don't worry
Check out videos of contemporary Kigali, Rwanda. That city is more than "kinda" clean. (I will preempt any follow-up retorts of "Rwandan genocide" irrelevant to the point that Kigali is incredibly clean if authoritarian with "Sharpeville and Soweto massacres," "Project Coast," "Civil Cooperation Bureau," "AWB," and "Operation Marion.")
The railway line still had tracks!! And the trolley bus, wow. Spot the Alfa Berlina. Things functioned seamlessly in those days. Have to say I miss them.
so much for so called progress. I lived and worked in Joburg in 1975 till 76 and resided in Abel Road, Berea. Certainly had some fun there and great food in some great restaurants. Hillbrow/Berea was like a part of Europe in Africa. You just dont know what you missed!
The double-decker buses reminded me of when I was in London 6 years ago. I didn’t even know my parents drove in those. Talking about railways, if you go to Johannesburg park station and look at the railway tracks below all you see is rubbish and old, unused trains.
@@lebohangdube3902 I'm pretty sure the piles of rubble showed at 2:10 is the demolished houses and shops of Fietas, its heartbreaking what so many people went through :(
My aunt used to work in Jozi back in these days. Walked around as she pleased and was never harassed. She's black. We're not saying there wasn't any racism when one had to interact with white people, but you could roam the city freely. No one stopped you from doing that.
Arrived there in 75, a much-valued time, in my life... which has carried me through some rough times. Wonderful memories! The Hillbrow Tower, with the revolving restaurant on top; Down-town Joeys,, leaving work in the afternoon, and always the down-pour, but, that smell, I loved it, the rain. t's alive, I could smell it, just watching the vid' Those old Mine-dumps, which we thought were rather weird, turned out to be highly toxic and dangerous, to folks living locally. THANK YOU - THANK YOU! I laughed at The Ink-spots, music;l man-o-man, does that make me feel ancient, or what!
Hi do you remember what it was like in the revolving restaurant in the tower I have been looking for so long for any pictures or video of it, I would love to know what it was like.
@@isabelnavaro6322 Because of high crime rates over the years it became dangerous to go to the restaurant so they had to closed it down.Its a sad thing to hear that once the CBD was once such a safe place but is now booming with criminals and drug dealers
@@goproko5695 What happened was exactly why the Afrikaners predicted would happen if you let the Hyena out of its cage...it ate everything it saw and turned the landscape into a barren wasteland...
Looking at some of those old cars. Some of them are classics now and are very rare and cost a lot more now than when they were first released on the market back then.
South Africa was well ahead. This country was already a first world even in 1950, if only our rural areas had had electricity and running water. Very sad we simply stood and then came the ANC.
You’re stupid. ANC cannot fix a country ridden by inequality and racism in 20 years. It will take time. In the mean time, bare with them and be a positive force in the country. Because you’re only looking at part of the reality in this videos. They should also for good mesure show how people like you were living in the townships. They never thought blacks could survive long enough to be a part of this country. They wanted to use the work force at a cheap cost to build the country while at the same time researching for a virus that target only blacks to eradicate them from the country. Know your history
@@dujardinmtl there is a campsite called Caronation park outside Johannesburg and that's where poor white people live now, as for the virus to kill all blacks? i think the virus you are talking about is AIDS! and it is killing all peoples around this world, black, brown, white and yellow.
@@dujardinmtl 😂thank you for schooling him. Its quite sad that us blacks fail to even merely aknowledge the hardships our grandparents had to go through during these times. Fuck this so called 'clean and peaceful' Joburg. Oksalayo our people weren't free.
@David Armstrong David, I honestly like the WE you refer to because it is true that to build forward, it should been done by all citizens of the country. So props to you for such a spirit. Now, I was merely saying that the past was inequal and the present offers far more opportunities to each citizen of the new South Africa. So no need to dwell in the past.
and be arbitrarily treated like a second class citizen by the race obsessed psychopaths running the show? Not sure how you could set that aside. My dad's an Afrikaner--the stories of racist injustice he saw growing up during this time period are enraging.
Up until the early 90’s Johannesburg, were beautifull and well run, we always took the train from Pretoria to park station to watch rugby at Ellispark. I passed thru joburg the wY they call it these days 2 years ago and to say the least it is a crying shame.
Ya but how much damage will be caused until such time, and what if the damage irreversible? There are many capable people in South Africa from all walks of life, all races and genders. Surely a good start would be to get rid of the ANC?
@@shakeelkhan9969 I see you are Muslim, please pray that people of SA get cleansed of racism. It still runs deep in people's hearts and minds yet they claim to worship God. But they can't have brotherly love
I am a ZA (not Saudi Arabia) born Turk, my parents moved back home when I was 4 and they always kept talking about how ZA was so much better and prettier than Turkey back then. They had a good life and in relatively short time saved enough money to start their own business here. It's really sad to read all the comments saying how bad it is today, I hope for all South Africans that one day you guys can finally stop sabotaging yourselves and finally look ahead. (I also wish that for my own country tbh)
@@pre-dawnraid9037 Botswana, they turned what used to be a terrible country with a crippling economy into a masterpiece that is one of the most richest countries (if not the richest) in Africa without a single civil war, here’s a video that explains it better than I ever could. th-cam.com/video/VslKKgYvVKU/w-d-xo.html
Amazing how everything still looks the same today after all these years, not much has changed apart from how dirty it is now but in infrastructure very little .
It was well kept and it’s a shame that it has deteriorated to the extent it has. Beyond the mismanagement, the influx of people from other parts of Africa and the rest of the world hasn’t helped either. Some day though a new generation of South Africans, black and white, will emerge to collaborate and fix the wrongs of those that came before them so said the optimist in me.
Hahaha...sad man. Johannesburg today is in a better state than it was in those days. Keep idealizing bygones days because you’ll only live it in your dreams.
I'm from Cape Town, but wow look how clean the sky is as well as the environment. I always wonder where all those old cars dissappear too. I could not help but think while watching this: Where did it all go wrong?
All went wrong after apartheid ended and the ANC came into power. While I don’t think that apartheid should have continued; I think the country was much better back then overall. Sad… Very sad…
@@dutchvanderlinde9991 Yep, couldn't think of a better way at the time to say it. But yes Apartheid was definitely morally incorrect. Just wish it turned out better afterwards, because it can't be denied that things have gone backwards. 😟
Madcat 456, the sky and the environment all over Africa was clean, free from plastics for millions of years before the white man set his dirty feet in Africa. We were living in perfect communion with nature, we had no jails, disagreement were settled by our elders. It was paradise before the whites arrived in Africa.
@@dutchvanderlinde9991 afrikaans caused it . They ought to have ended apartheid early and start integration of blacks gradually. The decay won't have come. Now both the afrikaans and blacks cannot live I SA
As someone who's from Johburg and is born-free this is so weird for 2 reasons Firstly there's just so many white people and hardly any black people which just really hits home how segregated South Africans' lives were. And also it looks so nice and clean. These days those same streets and buildings in Town are run-down and unmaintained. Why couldn't we have kept the good parts of old South Africa? These days it feels like we threw the baby out with the bath water
You just answered your own question, the cognitive dissonance is huge. Why indeed couldn't the good parts of South Africa remain when they were built by white people for white people, as soon as they were taken from the equation Bantus reverted to their natural order, not unlike you would see in Lusaka or Maputo
Currently live in Johannesburg. Hillbrow is totally damaged and part of the CBD also damaged. But when you go deep in the CBD i would say Johannesburg is still a nice town now we have Sandton City which makes Johannesburg looks more beautiful
We're not that lucky. Medieval Europeans knew that things were probably going to get better for them, or at least not get any worse. They weren't seeing their own culture that they had grown up in in ruins, but a different one. The bad stuff that happened to Rome had ended a long time ago. Us? We're still in Rome. It's around 400 AD, our armies aren't as invincible as they once were, we're got all kinds of internal strife and division, and we're looking back at Julius Caesar's time right now.
🤣 the poverty was hidden next door to the city for cheap labour. Our parents needed to get passed that allowed them to traverse the city (for specific reasons) during the day. We just see it now cause everybody went there to make a living of some sort.
I honestly don't know if anyone else would be able to do a better job.. It seems politicians just care about money, not actually making things better smh
@@c-lia3840In terms of effectiveness it was. It was developed into a first world and the ANC with their immoral stands destroyed it. Only Christ can save this country and He will only do so if we start recognizing Him as the Only true God and open parliament in His Name. Stop blaming start building by excluding the ANC fom governance. Further, ignore race and vote for the most competent to enable the masses to benefit and to grow intellectually. Enforce Law thereafter the Education System because witbout Law there is no education. Further, people must also take responsibility foor their actions and surroundings stop urinating and littering. Stop entitlement and start building start working there is no short cut to success only hard work. 30 % as a passing rate does not produce greatness but failure. Lets work together and become great or work against each other and sink together.
a complete shadow of it's former self. just check the cleanliness and beautiful atmosphere. today the city is a dumpster town, people pissing wherever they want, littering, rats all over, drug infested & you get robbed in broad daylight and nobody even cares to help u. very sad
Just goes to show how useless our government is ...all they had to do was maintain this beautiful city and they could not even do that... let alone build...so sad compared to what we see today😔
Beautiful video showing the positive sites of our historical past. Unemployment figures were always below 10% and Joburg was a big name world wide. I did not like apartheid and I still don't like it but the truth is: The afrikaner nation has built SA second to none in Africa
@@11window12 Dis wat my so vies maak oor sommige Suid Afrikaners wat neerhalend teenoor Jode is.Dekades terug het Joodse smouse en handelaars groot rol in koop en verkoop van boerdery produkte gespeel.Plaas tot plaas gery.En massiewe rol gespeel in algemene ekonomie.Eintlik vandag nog groot rol,maar word agteraf geminag.Verstaan nie my eie ou boerenasie.
@@henkmeiring01 Van die grootste versekerings-, farmaseutiese, finansiële, ingenieurs- en wettige maatskappye word deur Jode in Suid-Afrika besit. As hulle almal weggaan (amper 50% sedert 1998), sal dit lei tot die ineenstorting van die Suid-Afrikaanse ekonomie. Elke land wat Jode gehad het en nie meer het nie, het 'n ekonomiese ineenstorting beleef. Vergewe my. Afrikaans is nie my eerste taal soos jy kan sien nie.
@@11window12 Presies!Nou wil ek dit verder vat:die wêreld het swak houding teenoor Jode.Maar dink nie watse massiewe rol so relatief klein nasie speel nie.Vat ons kundigheid weg wat van Joodse afkoms is,sit ons in middeleeue.
I lived at the YMCA on Rissik St in '78. Started my first full time job at the JSE as a computer operator on a mainframe IBM. I used to walk to work right past the main train station. Jo'burg was on it's way down back then. I hear it's a real hellscape now.. haven't been back to SA since I left in '79 to return to the US.
Tenho Saudades destes anos passados!! Pátria do meu Coração!! É a Pátria dos meus Filhos!! Hoje tudo mudou gostei imenso de ver a Linda Cidade de Johanesburgo
My fellow South Africans - remember this, your country is beautiful, unfortunately we have all taken it for granted. Don't let government govern you. YOU ARE THE DIFFERENCE. If one man can make a forest over the course of his lifetime then what can a nation do for its people. We are united, don't let words anger you - we are all God's people, let's do Godly things and give our beloved nation back to its people. NO GOVERNMENT! If only my generation existed back then, would we see that we have created our own demise. The people of Joburg are weak and need to pray for God's forgiveness as they have forgotten Him. That's why our once beloved city is now equivalent to a rubbish dump filled with foreign crime instigators and no civil society. May God show us all the way of the truth. Thank you for this video - PS: Heritage Day is false or shouldn't exist as our people have forgotten what it actually means. Government should call it Corruption Day or the Day of Lost Civil Rights. My opinion and solution to this is STOP allowing foreigners to own the businesses in the CBD - Give IT back to OUR People. BBBEEE is also not empowering black people but enforcing foreign investment away from us. Unfortunately our Government only sees R's not the virtue in its Citizens. God bless South Africa - please forgive our Sins. Blessed are the meek. I disagree, Apartheid should've reigned forever. Our Country was better off. NKOSI SIKELEL IAFRIKA - use this phrase and wipe your ass with it and rub it on your face, that's Johannesburg CBD under ANC reign for those who don't know. A good tree bares no bad fruit - a bad tree bares no good fruit. Listen to the voice that guides you. Good luck fellow South Africans.
I lived in Johannesburg during the '70's. Movies and restaurants in the CBD and walked home early in the morning after the last train had left - trying to sing Beatles songs along the way.
Look at how lovely nice clean and well maintained Johannesburg was back then. Johannesburg was very safe back then too. Today Johannesburg is a dump. Johannesburg today is dirty run down chaotic and very dangerous.
A peaceful place without evil, crime rediculous hate speech and blackouts. NO traffic congestion and pestering car guards.What heaven on earth it was 👍.
Joburg CBD today still resembles this, with some major differences. Today Joburg CBD is: 1. Run down and filthy, it's actually shambolic in fact 2. Suffers from a lack of services (water, sanitation and electricity) 3. Unsafe and hostile The "modern" times version of Joburg (And Pretoria CBD) I have known all my life. I always hear the older people talking about how clean and safe these two cities used to be, this has not been my lived experience. I have always dreaded going to these places, and most people know to actively avoid these dangerous and risky places if they can or are able to.
Hate them or love them, the Afrikaners did a far better job at protecting the sovereignty of this country and running it properly. As a black person I must condemn apartheid and all that came with it but I'm not blind to the fact that our country is now on a downward spiral and has been since the liberation movement took office.
Fact, in simple terms the Black Government failed to SA running
It's constant race politics that keep us distracted while incompetent and corrupt politicians bleed our economy dry and take advantage of us in every possible way. We could be a great country if it weren't for that, and it's sad to see this. But you and I both know the race politics will never end.
I have a serious question for you. If in an alternate universe, there was a South Africa with the current constitution apart from ONE difference; that only whites could be elected to parliament and take up government positions, would you take it over the current situation.
You mean the Dutch and the collective European countries that built their bases (proxy servers) in Africa as else where in the world to populize themselves and claim ownership of the world.
Sounds like safe hatred 👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾🙄🙄🙃🙃
As black people watching this portal into the past, historical contexts aside, none of us can deny that Joburg in the 70's LOOKED a lot better than it does now. Cause nowadays, unless you're rich and can afford to live a more affluent area of the city, Joburg is not fit for human habitation. It sucks on just about every conceivable level.
And I hate that because I'm black, I have to pretend that that's not the case. That it's "not so bad." Is this what it's come to? That we have to defend a toxic hell-hole of a city because it's governed by people with the same skin tone as us? People, I might add, who couldn't give two fucks about you or your opinion of their competency. People who would sell you to the highest bidder (which they do often btw) at the drop of a hat. Is this the best we can do as black people? Are we so defiant in our struggle with our own shortcomings that we can't even acknowledge that something merely LOOKED better in the past?
Nice message you've posted Moratuwa Maleke.
Take care!
My brother or sister, I can't tell because I'm a Cape Town "coloured" and I suck at African languages... Thank you for this message. It was very introspective and honest. It was actually a heart-wrenchingly sad comment to read but I hear you. If these were "my people" governing my country into oblivion I would also be struggling with that same shame. But YOU are "my people". This isn't a case of black people running the country into a sh*thole graveyard. It's a case of underqualified individuals who weaponise race to stay in power, and to deflect its responsibility for ruining our beautiful country. This is sadly why many of us vote for people who look like us instead of for policies we believe in. They have kept us divided along racial lines because together they know we will no longer stand for their corruption. I love you my brother or sister. I truly hope their are more like you out there
@@Chez114 🙏🏽
Just to add to that many and I mean many of us as whites wanted to just live with each other.I remember in that so called bad times.We had such beautiful times in Hillbrow. Not looking at colour( All races lived it up and had a ball!!!)We can still make it work and get OUR!!! COUNTRY TO BE GREAT!!!! BELIEVE ME ITS SO EASY🤗🤗🤗😭
the model was never sustainable, it was a short term illusion at the cost of long term realities
As a white South African, I don’t ask to bring back Apartheid, where racial segregation was a thing, but I do ask to bring back where everything looked clean and had good economy.
Your statement is a oxymoron, apartheid was the reason for the orderliness , African corruption incompetence disordeliness and laziness was held at bay by apartheid!
@janmale7767 Wrong. Apartheid was the system of losers. Even Rhodesians were disgusted at it. The failure of Apartheid South Africa to cooperate led to its downfall. The African majority had self respect to not accept being second class. The ANC failed not the majority African population.
@@janmale7767Amen, amen, amen
As I watched this video I saw white people and black people walking the streets without shooting each other.
@@AbdirahmanIdris-ku9xmwrong! Apartheid was the system of people, who were not biased, but directly and honest and had the courage not to close their eyes to reality !Under Apartheid the country was blooming ten spyte van sy internasionale isolatie! Todays state of the country is just like adding 2 plus 2! It is natural: just look at the rest of Africa!
I lived in Johannesburg from 1972 to 1975 as an Australian expat. The city and suburban areas were truly wonderful, very clean and well maintained . First I lived in Doornfontein then in a suburb called Mayfair and finally in Joubert Park , down the road from Hillbrow. I can only imagine what all these places are like nowadays, but from what I 've heard Joubert Park is a cesspool and unfit for human habitation. Very sad how a truly wonderful city has hit rock bottom, due to the usual 3 functions of civil servants, corruption , incompetence and arrogance.
I stayed there for 2 years...it's dirty now...the Doorfotein train station got destroyed during the covid period...there's a lot of mugging there now...it's no longer a pleasant place to live
I couldn’t agree more. I love my home country but it just isn’t for those who want to get far in life without having to deal with problems that we shouldn’t have to deal with everyday. Like loadshedding which just happened to be what we experienced today for 2-3 hours😂. It’s such a joke and that’s why we are immigrating soon.
@@stormcox4578 we... not everyone can go immigrate and even if you do the rest of us will still be left to try and fix the problem ourselves
How was the alexandra? 👀😳
@@facts2666 too much rats that one...
Unbelievable how things can change, imagine one day we will be watching videos of Sandton saying wow it used to be so clean
My thought, when I saw the building with the swimming pool.
I hope that that doesn't happen.
Who needs videos. I just cast my mind back 9 years ago.
😭😭😭😭 I pray that day never comes
Yes lived close to the Cricket field
And who build it... SAY IT
Looking at those infrastructure made me realize that the new government never build anything in Joburg.
Its not up to Government to build the city buildings. It was and still is the private sector who develops inner cities to be taxed by the local and state government. What I find sad is that since democracy in 1994, the ANC never built 1 extra state hospital or university to plan for the burgeoning population. The result is over crowding and under funded institutions. As for a disfunctional rail network, the blame lies with the people who plunder, destroy and loot the infrastructure which my tax money provided for them .
@@tantalisinglabrat thanx for the enlightening but i feel like current private sector are in line with the government so they haven't built any city 💯I'm not gonna say much about tax coz there's a lot collected annually, but it's not enough coz of corruption and some leaving the state
They didn’t have to. They bought buildings that would otherwise kill people if they fell, and they filled them with government workers. Building skyscrapers is vanity
It's my culture.
Nothing special, nothing out of the ordinary.
We aspire success, cleanliness, structure, respect and prosperity.
My man! Ek is met jou al die pad
Basically how Tesla & SpaceX happened
@@animangafan342 elon Musk is a south african army deserter,he wants nothing to do with it
Prosperity for the minority. Why Rhoedesia fell
The cleanliness stands out.
Because the whites were in charge
Toronto used to be a clean city too.
@@sonofsantoWhatever. If that makes you feel better, then good for you.
@alejandro brunner Savagery? Your anger is worrying. You are in desperate need of a psychiatric evaluation. Joburg has morphed into a quintessential conurbation, which literally means it's developing rapidly in its periphery and surrounding metropolis. Unfortunately along with that and incontrollable immigration, the inner city has taken a hard knock.
@alejandro brunner Johannesburg is developing outwardly. it's a quintessential conurbation. Unfortunately with that, much like LA and Detroit, the inner city has taken a hard knock as business presses northwards.
Now, the ruins of Johannesburg look like "Life After People."
In the 1970's it was an European city. Today it's an Africain city. That's the difference...
On whose back was the wealth of joburg created? Who cleaned the so called European city?
@@muragegitari6052 Funny how every successful city was built on "the backs" of africans but when africans govern themselves there are no such cities. Sub-saharan Africa is a worse place to live than Rome 2000 years ago.
@@muragegitari6052 On the backs of white people. The communities were segregated, remember? Apartheid was basically about white people having their own safe spaces which constituted only a tiny fraction of the country. But even that had to be taken away.
@@muragegitari6052 On the back of smart hard working Europeans. The only thing most of you people know is to be invaders and parasites.
@@muragegitari6052 On whose mind has joburg prospered?
Everyone knows exactly why Joburg is how it is today.
Non white people
Because of the ANC.
Unfortunately the West is so brainwashed that they don't know.
Because of colonization?
@@johnm84 Who are the ANC and what did they do?
Not South African, so I really don't know.
Walking, in mid-Johannesburg, with a purse out. 😍
The said part of that is, if you were black, police would stop you and ask you why are walking in town after 6pm. Even be jailed if you didn't have ID.
@@lifenstyleafrica8498 exactly just because we know hoe you can destroy and steal wen the sun sets, look at 2022
You wouldn’t be allowed there.
@@lifenstyleafrica8498 so those miscreants feared apartheid police more than ANC police.
@@baatiler/cursedcomments
I arrived in Johannesburg in 1974. The city and suburbs were truly amazing, very clean, well managed and well maintained: the best city in Africa and one of the best cities in the world. Parts of the then vibrant city streets (shown on this video) are today a cesspool and unfit for human habitation. How tragic!
And Alexandra
As a person who lives in Johannesburg, I find it very strange that everyone says these places are unfit for human habitation and I’m very much a human.
@@skhathimthembu591 then you are very dirty person.
United nations funded ANC to ruin it. J just luke California and Australia too. The UN is behind the destruction of the world.
Music needs updating. Certainly not 1970s music
I wish I grew up in South Africa without the ridiculous crime rates, without a corrupted government, without all of the preventable issues if only the people of SA start to realise how much more we could possibly be. Sad...
PS: South Africa is a lovely place on it's good days if you know what I mean. The food, the people, the culture, it's unmatched. Such diversity.
The formation of "South Africa" was a crime against humanity. The crime still continues, that is why it must burn 🔥 so we can live peaceful lives, in harmony with nature
@@mongezigongo8893 I am 100% against racism. I was born in 97', throughout primary school and high school I never saw color, because I mostly went to school with black kids, and I saw everyone as equal. My parents were not racist either so it was never a problem growing up, yes my forefathers probably were part of the apartheid regime, but I never knew it, nor experienced it myself. Unfortunately the generation I was born in now has to suffer the consequences of the actions my family and other white families did back in the day... I myself am in a 3 year relationship with the most beautiful lady I have ever met, planning on getting married. We face problems in our daily lives because I am white and she is black. I went a bit off topic but the point is if there could be a place and time in South Africa, where everyone can let go of the past, move forward and unite as one, I would love to be there.
@@steventheologo you make solid points about unity but you have to understand that people can't just forget the past of how they got here in the first place. It sounds cliche but that's the simple truth.
@@mongezigongo8893 you are cringe
@@mongezigongo8893
But generally we black people dont like cats, dogs, snakes, tokoloshes, we hate living in the dark, we forgot how to use fire for cooking, we only want white mans shoes and clothes, we are drugged by commercial beers etc etc etc
HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO LIVE WITH NATURE??????
When all is burnt and everyone gone.
You the same guy that will ask:
"waat mus can hairpen"
Before ANC took over and destroyed the city. I hate these people.
This is the good old days and not the horrific future that we now live.😢😮
It's what people want, so it's what they get.
A retired White colleague of mine once told me with sadness in his face, that he still sees the old South Africa in his dreams, and because of that, he knows that the South Africa he once loved, still lives in his heart 😢!
damn...
Sorry ❤ imagine if people talk about life in Israel back then 20 years later?
It's like a strange mix of London and Los Angeles. Sad that it's lost forever.
It’s only sad to you! Good riddance
@@dujardinmtl for most people who used to live in Johannesburg it’s sad explain the 300 likes and the 54 likes he got
@@dujardinmtl Yeah because everyone would rather live in a crime ridden, trash covered, AIDS infested shithole
@@boogie7972 I completely agree. Let’s get ride of you to solve this.
Ahh, yes, the delights only Apartheid could bring 😍
🙄
I remember as a kid driving through Hillbrow with my Mom in the late 90s, run down by then, talking about how she lived and went to Uni in the City, and went out partying at night. I used to say there’s no way you lived here. Now with all these videos I can totally believe it. How incredibly sad.
Born in 1980, seating on those Benches on Joubert Park, the smell and taste of a freshly baked Steak n Kidney Pie or Samoosa on Eloff street, the smell of new clothes for sale on those beautifully maintained stores, back when one could smell the scent of a brand new toy on sale nearby...back then when going to Jozi CBD was an outing and a half,one had to bath and look spiff👌🏿 the sight of those maroon and white double decker busses, the sound of the BigBen by the old Post Office.
It’s just a pity we were segregated,marginalized,oppressed as Black People,WHITES had that whole town to themselves and the city was well kept and in pristine condition...no littering,no loitering,stormwater drains worked effectively,no sideway hawkers,taxis obeyed the law and there was order.
As much as I HATE APARTHEID and its everlasting effects,I will give it to my oppressors THEY BUILT A WORLD CLASS CITY...until 1994 happened and the whole shit turned upside down,as a Soweto Native I’m scared to walk in my very own town...why...??? Coz WE FUCKED IT UP ROYALLY.
If only we could look at ourselves as BLACKS and admit to just how messed up we are(we can’t blame apartheid forever-again,I HATE what that despicable system did to the mind of a darkie) it’s as though we don’t know what the difference is between clean and Dirt...Partly,Apartheid is to blame, to hate ourselves so much that we would deem it natural and acceptable to dump paper,plastic,beer bottles where add to that our AFRICAN brothers and sisters who came from independent and squalid living conditions,worse than what Joburg is presently.
All it’s gonna take is educating our people about the importance of cleanliness and Hygiene.
I still love my Jozi and have hopes that one day we shall see it return to its beautiful beautiful days.
What a wonderful honest statement. Thank you my brother.
Segregation isn't oppression unless you believe you have some kind of right to access other peoples' civilizations & institutions, which in reality is just conquest. Which is exactly what the end of apartheid represented, black conquest of Whites.
Are Whites oppressed because they're not granted unlimited access to Zulu villages & institutions? Because Zulu want to protect their people & culture. And I mean, look at South African now, all the people who defended apartheid were proven correct
If this city’s infrastructure looked like this back then and now what did the new government do actually.
Loot Money and nothing else..
They added loadshedding and potholes.
I think they stopped the trains, and the national airlines. The introduced load-shedding and dirty drinking water.
steal
Sweet fuck all ☝️🤣🤣🤣
Wow, my parents told me stories about how beautiful it was.
ANC destroyed this great city, as a South African you are a foreigner in this city... Infrastructure development and maintenance was last done by the apartheid regime.It hurts a lot when you look at it in the 70's because it is a reminder of how the government is failing it's citizens..sorry to say this but it's like ANC is proving why apartheid regime wanted to keep our great nation out of the leadership of black people, I mean even when we vote there are certain mentality people who vote ANC even when it's giving us misery and poverty...Black people don't want to wake up and smell the coffee, ANC fought for themselves while real activists died for freedom and it's sad because if those activists don't affiliate with the ANC they are simply forgotten and sidelined by famous ANC members..The struggle was for ANC members to get a blank cheque and steal without fear and loot our taxes with pride while ignorant black people cheer them on.
Couldn't have worded better
GREAT NATION???? Wow what a lie
There are no blames. it is just how it should be at the end of the day to be honest. In the apartheid era, although with a terrible regime that HAD to end, the government knew what it meant to run a country and grow a country. There was experience. They (white people) came from a long line of governing countries for hundreds of years. Thats where the experience comes from, where as African's from here who have never gone through that experience had the responsibility to run an entire country. That is why the regime didn't want to give the country to the hands of Black people. They did not understand the importance, there was anger because they couldn't live like this and that had turned in to greed, therefore we have corruption. Mistakes will continue to be made, but that is how one learns. And hopefully the part of South Africa that doesn't understand what it means to run this country learns out of these mistakes. There is only God and Hope, that's all.
it only looked this great because it was mainly a white populated area so all the finances could be used to make it nice, try to find how the places they left for black people looked. Horrible, because the care wasnt taken so ofcourse when people come into power who grew up from there they are going to want to take it all for themselves as that is what was done to their areas. Common sense
"the real activists died for freedom" sjoe that stung...
Those WERE the days. I grew up in Hillbrow and it was amazing, train trips and to watch the view. Carefree with lots of clean places to go out at night. Hillbrow and the city had life💝💝💝
My first apartment/flat was in Hillbrow on Harrow Road. What good memories. I was 17/18.
Apologies for raining on the nostalgia parade. I grew up in Johannesburg and the video and music do not depict Johannesburg in the 1970"s. Trams were circa 1960's. The cars in some sections also look much earlier, ie 1960"s? Who could forget Carlton Centre and the swanky movie houses. I also used to train at the Hillbrow Swiming Pool, which was below the Summit Club, and walk home at 21:00 to a residential hotel in the CBD, (very safe, except for some harmless men who would offer me a 'lift'. We would dance at various clubs in Hillbrow, including Bella Napoli, The Glass Slipper, Plumb Crazy, and many others, and end off with a swcharma from Bimbo's or roast chicken and fresh rolls at abut 5am at Fontana Highpoint. New Year;s Eve was the biggest street party ever. Everybody had a great time, the police were always around but it was always a great vibe. Aaah, such great memories . Gave that up when one New Year''s Eve in the 1990's a fridge crashed to the street from a highrise building and we found Smit Street covered in shattered glass from bottles thrown from flats. The end of that era!!
And the Joubert Park Christmas lights. All Hell the ANC!
No way this is JHB, I am Namibian and I am amazed how this looked so great close to 60 years back..
Also a Namibian! We must stand together so that Windhoek stays the beautiful city it is!!!
This is Joburg. I should know. You dont wanna see it know. At all.
I am from Mozambique and i remember in tne 90s i used to hear migrants tell wonderful stories about how beautiful and good it was. So i grew up hallucinated and wanting desperately to visit Joburg. Not New York, JHB. I managed it in December 2020 and when i got there i was totally disappointed: Dirty streets and dirty and neglected buildings in contrast with what i had grew up hearing. I found the arquitect of the buildings outdated. Even in Maputo we have like 4 or 5 modern modern buildings. I stayed in a cheap hotel and it was noisey, smelling weed all over the stairs. The streets are scary: people drinking alcohol and smoking as opposed to what i had heard back in the 90s, when they said ""you dont drink or throw garbage on JHB streets because you got punished"". Now South Africans will just live in their nostalgy of these beautiful videos. In my opinion, ANC bad policies and migrants helped ruin this beautiful town.
I agree with 10000% anc and illegal 🚫 migrant ruined this beautiful country of 🇿🇦 🇿🇦 so sad man
@@collinsghambi7315 be honest with yourself, some south africans reject their own fault on migrants! I have visited Jozy in 2016, we visit nelson mandela house in johannesburg, eat in restaurants in the suburbs, but me and my west africans colleagues were so affraid by blacks south africans in the streets of soweto with their behaviours, its was really obvious that this is an education problem! by the same time, there is a division in black society between poors and richs. On my opinion of one month in jozy, Blacks who deals in the malls and poors who eats in the streets are two parts of the same piece but dont deals each others enough, their is a new segregation between a little part of richs blacks and the majority of poors blacks who destroy the standard living of the country because they are leaved appart by the government of SA! i am not a migrant by the way!!
@@collinsghambi7315 - that's the most absurd comment I read here.
It really is amazing that these eco chambers get applied in the same type of situation all over the world: a country's economy starts going to shit, the political class does nothing right, keeps getting wealthier and is regularly caught in corruption scandals that hurt the local taxpayers and who do the locals blame? - migrants.
It really is the same tape everywhere!
If it makes u feel better, NYC is a dump now, too.
So are most American big cities b/c it's lead & ruined by corrupt leaders.
I think SA became known as the infant r*p* capital of the world in the late 90 or early 2000s.
@@jerrycarrera10india,
Wow, what a stark reminder of how peaceful and well maintained the city was then! We see black & white people going about their business in a peaceful and contented way. The city is clean and everything is well maintained - a far cry form what we see today! Thanks to the ANC, who have had every opportunity to make the previously oppressed people's lives better, it's now an absolute sh*t-hole! The ANC puts it's own greed above the needs of it's people, and things continue to spiral downwards. Sad, but true! When will all South Africans wake up and start supporting a government that puts it's people first, and takes colour out of the equation? It's no longer about colour - it's about pride, honour, capabilities, intent, and execution of duties. We can no longer tolerate lies, theft, and non delivery!
"black & white people going about their business in a peaceful and contented way" Lol :')
"Peaceful" as there never has been a single protest back then...
@@lawsonhellu4718 You think Black people weren't protesting Apartheid at the time? The 1976 Soweto Uprising? The Mass strikes that erupted when Black workers finally unionized in the 70s? There was so many demonstrations in the 70s. Black People were discontent and oppressed. It's so weird of ya'll to call that peaceful.
@@tshepisoramushu5450 I was just being ironic I know that there has been protests that's why i was responding to him ironically cause he said it was peaceful back then don't worry
this is the best I've seen. beloved old Johannesburg. The most beautiful in the world, it's a pity that you only remained in memories 💔
lol johannesburg as always been run by white people non wonder the whole south africa is kinda clean
Good or bad memory? Depends on who's memory. Right?
@@rebeccam.7249 no Johannesburg run by white here stop being stupid.
@Rebecca M. is that why it’s dirty as hell today? The white people get lazy or something lol?
Check out videos of contemporary Kigali, Rwanda. That city is more than "kinda" clean. (I will preempt any follow-up retorts of "Rwandan genocide" irrelevant to the point that Kigali is incredibly clean if authoritarian with "Sharpeville and Soweto massacres," "Project Coast," "Civil Cooperation Bureau," "AWB," and "Operation Marion.")
Seeing people walking around without masks on really hits different
ANC's miss management of governance and resources has lead us here.
The railway line still had tracks!! And the trolley bus, wow. Spot the Alfa Berlina. Things functioned seamlessly in those days. Have to say I miss them.
so much for so called progress. I lived and worked in Joburg in 1975 till 76 and resided in Abel Road, Berea. Certainly had some fun there and great food in some great restaurants. Hillbrow/Berea was like a part of Europe in Africa. You just dont know what you missed!
The double-decker buses reminded me of when I was in London 6 years ago. I didn’t even know my parents drove in those. Talking about railways, if you go to Johannesburg park station and look at the railway tracks below all you see is rubbish and old, unused trains.
You miss apartheid.
@@skhathimthembu591 And?
@@skhathimthembu591is what you have now better?
Alot has changed, it was beautiful
Johannesburg looked so peaceful in the 70s unfortunately now it’s turned into a bio hazard.
Violence was the price of that "peace"...
Wish they showed the condition of the townships at the time
@@lebohangdube3902 I'm pretty sure the piles of rubble showed at 2:10 is the demolished houses and shops of Fietas, its heartbreaking what so many people went through :(
@@lebohangdube3902 Very much the same as they are now.Despite 30 years of democracy!
Now you can't even walk freely in Joburg, there's so much crime but Braamfontein and parts of Bank city towards Ghandi square, is still okay
Yes but you weren't allowed to walk back then you black man
My aunt used to work in Jozi back in these days. Walked around as she pleased and was never harassed. She's black.
We're not saying there wasn't any racism when one had to interact with white people, but you could roam the city freely. No one stopped you from doing that.
Arrived there in 75, a much-valued time, in my life... which has carried me through some rough times. Wonderful memories!
The Hillbrow Tower, with the revolving restaurant on top;
Down-town Joeys,, leaving work in the afternoon, and always the down-pour, but, that smell, I loved it, the rain. t's alive, I could smell it, just watching the vid'
Those old Mine-dumps, which we thought were rather weird, turned out to be highly toxic and dangerous, to folks living locally.
THANK YOU - THANK YOU!
I laughed at The Ink-spots, music;l man-o-man, does that make me feel ancient, or what!
Hi do you remember what it was like in the revolving restaurant in the tower I have been looking for so long for any pictures or video of it, I would love to know what it was like.
My mom was on the Hillbrow revolving restaurant she said it was magnificent 😁
@@goproko5695 Why is it not operating?
@@isabelnavaro6322 Because of high crime rates over the years it became dangerous to go to the restaurant so they had to closed it down.Its a sad thing to hear that once the CBD was once such a safe place but is now booming with criminals and drug dealers
@@goproko5695 What happened was exactly why the Afrikaners predicted would happen if you let the Hyena out of its cage...it ate everything it saw and turned the landscape into a barren wasteland...
Looking at some of those old cars. Some of them are classics now and are very rare and cost a lot more now than when they were first released on the market back then.
No shit
yes, I loved looking at those cars - italian, british, french, german, american, japanese cars - NO korean cars in RSA back then
South Africa was well ahead. This country was already a first world even in 1950, if only our rural areas had had electricity and running water. Very sad we simply stood and then came the ANC.
You’re stupid. ANC cannot fix a country ridden by inequality and racism in 20 years. It will take time. In the mean time, bare with them and be a positive force in the country. Because you’re only looking at part of the reality in this videos. They should also for good mesure show how people like you were living in the townships.
They never thought blacks could survive long enough to be a part of this country. They wanted to use the work force at a cheap cost to build the country while at the same time researching for a virus that target only blacks to eradicate them from the country. Know your history
@@dujardinmtl there is a campsite called Caronation park outside Johannesburg and that's where poor white people live now, as for the virus to kill all blacks? i think the virus you are talking about is AIDS! and it is killing all peoples around this world, black, brown, white and yellow.
@@r.mariano8118 I agree 100% with you on this.
@@dujardinmtl 😂thank you for schooling him. Its quite sad that us blacks fail to even merely aknowledge the hardships our grandparents had to go through during these times. Fuck this so called 'clean and peaceful' Joburg. Oksalayo our people weren't free.
@David Armstrong David, I honestly like the WE you refer to because it is true that to build forward, it should been done by all citizens of the country. So props to you for such a spirit. Now, I was merely saying that the past was inequal and the present offers far more opportunities to each citizen of the new South Africa. So no need to dwell in the past.
Say what you want about the Afrikaaners, they did love their South Africa. Amazing people, to be fair.
It’s the peacefulness for me. Set aside the historical controversies that were happening at the time ... I would have loved to live in that era
and be arbitrarily treated like a second class citizen by the race obsessed psychopaths running the show? Not sure how you could set that aside.
My dad's an Afrikaner--the stories of racist injustice he saw growing up during this time period are enraging.
Wish you were there!!!!
@@JOlivier2011 Luckily everything is perfect now.
@Bob X In virtually every aspect of life. But off the top of my head? Going to public beaches for example. Only whites were allowed.
@Bob X well, I'd rather fight you to the death then live in that world. So I don't know about harmony
RIP to the cleanliness and safety ...
RIP South Africa 😔
I only have two die-hard relatives left there, all the rest have buggered off somewhere else.
🤣
🌿🙏
@@njuham Good riddance.
We are free at last, thank God oppression is over
Up until the early 90’s Johannesburg, were beautifull and well run, we always took the train from Pretoria to park station to watch rugby at Ellispark. I passed thru joburg the wY they call it these days 2 years ago and to say the least it is a crying shame.
Lived in hillbrow in 76 78 loved it very clean could walk home on your own in the dark it's ruined now
Clean and pretty. Love the music to this sweet video too. Purrrrrffffect xxxxx 💔💔💔💔.
The city was much cleaner than it is now. It will get there again when our people go through the right amount of evolution.
Ya but how much damage will be caused until such time, and what if the damage irreversible? There are many capable people in South Africa from all walks of life, all races and genders. Surely a good start would be to get rid of the ANC?
So in like 20000 years?
When it wasn’t overpopulated and clean.
It’s not overpopulated now.
You mean when it was s white only city
Befor nice and pace cilen
@@shakeelkhan9969 I see you are Muslim, please pray that people of SA get cleansed of racism. It still runs deep in people's hearts and minds yet they claim to worship God. But they can't have brotherly love
And it was clean. Can you imagine the railway tracks now!
there are no railway tracks left
Gone, stolen and sold for scrap value!
I am a ZA (not Saudi Arabia) born Turk, my parents moved back home when I was 4 and they always kept talking about how ZA was so much better and prettier than Turkey back then. They had a good life and in relatively short time saved enough money to start their own business here. It's really sad to read all the comments saying how bad it is today, I hope for all South Africans that one day you guys can finally stop sabotaging yourselves and finally look ahead. (I also wish that for my own country tbh)
Show yourself one black majority African country that is a success....I'll wait.
@@pre-dawnraid9037 Botswana, they turned what used to be a terrible country with a crippling economy into a masterpiece that is one of the most richest countries (if not the richest) in Africa without a single civil war, here’s a video that explains it better than I ever could.
th-cam.com/video/VslKKgYvVKU/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the story
@@moggtheboss3087 Botswana is not a success. Maybe stable but still dirt poor. Try again.
@@pre-dawnraid9037 watch the video you melt
I wish people of Johannesburg had given ActionSA a chance
Word!!!
You are smart, the other voters are not. They belief the lies of corrupt politicians every time.
I'm starting to think that our voting system is rigged or people are being forced to vote anc.
You mean the guys that keep deepthroating the EFF?
negatives: apartheid
positives: everything else
Wow Johannesburg use to be beautiful back then
There are so many Cities around the World that you can say that about!
A world class African city.The perfect example of an oxymoron!
Beautiful video and song, thank you
Amazing how everything still looks the same today after all these years, not much has changed apart from how dirty it is now but in infrastructure very little .
You obviously haven't spent time there of late
It was well kept and it’s a shame that it has deteriorated to the extent it has. Beyond the mismanagement, the influx of people from other parts of Africa and the rest of the world hasn’t helped either.
Some day though a new generation of South Africans, black and white, will emerge to collaborate and fix the wrongs of those that came before them so said the optimist in me.
hahahahahaahah good one boss, take a look outside who is looting?
Hahaha...sad man. Johannesburg today is in a better state than it was in those days. Keep idealizing bygones days because you’ll only live it in your dreams.
@@dujardinmtl denialism is not useful.
@@tiddyfard4517 hopeless people and poor thinkers did the looting
@@dujardinmtl Johannesburg was way better
Oh wow, days when walking through town and Hillbrow were possible
It’s still possible 🙄
I got lost during the night in hillbrow, but was funny everybody i asked for directions kept saying,"whatever you do dont ask anybody for directions"
I'm from Cape Town, but wow look how clean the sky is as well as the environment.
I always wonder where all those old cars dissappear too.
I could not help but think while watching this: Where did it all go wrong?
All went wrong after apartheid ended and the ANC came into power. While I don’t think that apartheid should have continued; I think the country was much better back then overall. Sad… Very sad…
@@dutchvanderlinde9991 Yep, couldn't think of a better way at the time to say it.
But yes Apartheid was definitely morally incorrect.
Just wish it turned out better afterwards, because it can't be denied that things have gone backwards. 😟
Madcat 456, the sky and the environment all over Africa was clean, free from plastics for millions of years before the white man set his dirty feet in Africa. We were living in perfect communion with nature, we had no jails, disagreement were settled by our elders. It was paradise before the whites arrived in Africa.
@@dutchvanderlinde9991 afrikaans caused it . They ought to have ended apartheid early and start integration of blacks gradually. The decay won't have come. Now both the afrikaans and blacks cannot live I SA
Three letters. ANC
So very sad. It was so safe back then.
Safe for only Europeans
@@sfisobuthelezi3054
"It's all so tiresome"
That was a sad era in South Africa.
@@hopebuhali3887 Is it better now?
@@jimpreast5268
Have you seen the news? Lol
Makes me want to cry 😢😢😢
Me too!
Wow, so clean and transport working..... Amazing
As someone who's from Johburg and is born-free this is so weird for 2 reasons
Firstly there's just so many white people and hardly any black people which just really hits home how segregated South Africans' lives were.
And also it looks so nice and clean. These days those same streets and buildings in Town are run-down and unmaintained.
Why couldn't we have kept the good parts of old South Africa? These days it feels like we threw the baby out with the bath water
You just answered your own question, the cognitive dissonance is huge. Why indeed couldn't the good parts of South Africa remain when they were built by white people for white people, as soon as they were taken from the equation Bantus reverted to their natural order, not unlike you would see in Lusaka or Maputo
Jo burg who took the Annus out of Johannesburg its now called joannusburg
It was clean and beautiful ❤
Black South Africans used to work in this area before the so called African brothers flock in to our country🤦♂️I blame Mandela
Currently live in Johannesburg. Hillbrow is totally damaged and part of the CBD also damaged. But when you go deep in the CBD i would say Johannesburg is still a nice town now we have Sandton City which makes Johannesburg looks more beautiful
class and gendrification
Randburg looks great. I've been all around there and it's the best of joburg for me. Santon too
Sandton is agony!
Brings back memories from a time long gone. Thank you for sharing.
You mean Apartheid? Lol!
At least is was safe then LOL
@@fezilemkohli6844 right?! Lol. They all so daft
@@hanoiboy9839 safe for who
Black people??? Yeah sure🤨
@@fezilemkohli6844 haha sad boi
Beautiful video ...thanks for uploading
Infinitely better than today
Coz it was cleaned by slave hey
@@tfmkhonza5084 bring them slaves back then
@@hyamick7584 😂😂
Muh slavery
It’s never coming back...dream on.
I can imagine this is what medieval Europeans felt like when they looked at the ruins of the Roman Empire
We're not that lucky. Medieval Europeans knew that things were probably going to get better for them, or at least not get any worse. They weren't seeing their own culture that they had grown up in in ruins, but a different one. The bad stuff that happened to Rome had ended a long time ago.
Us? We're still in Rome. It's around 400 AD, our armies aren't as invincible as they once were, we're got all kinds of internal strife and division, and we're looking back at Julius Caesar's time right now.
Cry you western chauvinist fascist
Can't believe it!!!! Johannesburg is in Africa, so modern and with no poverty, I think I'm in America are another developed country!! |^-^|
🤣 the poverty was hidden next door to the city for cheap labour. Our parents needed to get passed that allowed them to traverse the city (for specific reasons) during the day. We just see it now cause everybody went there to make a living of some sort.
Downtown Joburg was much cleaner and maintained back then. Seems like joburg expanded northwards more these days. Great city then and now.
That’s literally what happened business and the investment money moved to sandton to restart the CBD project
Not now. It's become a filthy hell hole. Let's not kid ourselves.
So clean and so safe,, now the total opposite,, this country fell terribly...
Judging by the cars it looks more like the 60s but still an awesome memory.
The truth is that this country has been in the wrong hands for the past 27 years
I honestly don't know if anyone else would be able to do a better job.. It seems politicians just care about money, not actually making things better smh
Also, it wasn't in the right hands before 1994 either, so is there even such a thing as the right hands for a country to be in
@@c-lia3840 isn't it always about the politicians? of the politicians, by the politicians, for the politicians.
@@suppylarue220 just to clarify, what I meant by politicians was the people who are in control of the country ,I don't know the correct words tehehe
@@c-lia3840In terms of effectiveness it was. It was developed into a first world and the ANC with their immoral stands destroyed it. Only Christ can save this country and He will only do so if we start recognizing Him as the Only true God and open parliament in His Name. Stop blaming start building by excluding the ANC fom governance. Further, ignore race and vote for the most competent to enable the masses to benefit and to grow intellectually. Enforce Law thereafter the Education System because witbout Law there is no education. Further, people must also take responsibility foor their actions and surroundings stop urinating and littering. Stop entitlement and start building start working there is no short cut to success only hard work. 30 % as a passing rate does not produce greatness but failure. Lets work together and become great or work against each other and sink together.
The good old days when everything worked like a well oiled machine!
Honestly why is everyone so disciplined and clean and prosperous? What a different life.
a complete shadow of it's former self. just check the cleanliness and beautiful atmosphere. today the city is a dumpster town, people pissing wherever they want, littering, rats all over, drug infested & you get robbed in broad daylight and nobody even cares to help u. very sad
I wasn't around so this is just amazing to see. I work in the CBD so it's quite amazing to see the difference now.
We will never see it this clean again
Just goes to show how useless our government is ...all they had to do was maintain this beautiful city and they could not even do that... let alone build...so sad compared to what we see today😔
Ah, nostalgia....! Feels like yesterday.
Beautiful video showing the positive sites of our historical past. Unemployment figures were always below 10% and Joburg was a big name world wide. I did not like apartheid and I still don't like it but the truth is: The afrikaner nation has built SA second to none in Africa
The Jews in South Africa also played a huge role in building the economy
@@11window12 Dis wat my so vies maak oor sommige Suid Afrikaners wat neerhalend teenoor Jode is.Dekades terug het Joodse smouse en handelaars groot rol in koop en verkoop van boerdery produkte gespeel.Plaas tot plaas gery.En massiewe rol gespeel in algemene ekonomie.Eintlik vandag nog groot rol,maar word agteraf geminag.Verstaan nie my eie ou boerenasie.
The truth👏🏾👏🏾
@@henkmeiring01 Van die grootste versekerings-, farmaseutiese, finansiële, ingenieurs- en wettige maatskappye word deur Jode in Suid-Afrika besit. As hulle almal weggaan (amper 50% sedert 1998), sal dit lei tot die ineenstorting van die Suid-Afrikaanse ekonomie. Elke land wat Jode gehad het en nie meer het nie, het 'n ekonomiese ineenstorting beleef. Vergewe my. Afrikaans is nie my eerste taal soos jy kan sien nie.
@@11window12 Presies!Nou wil ek dit verder vat:die wêreld het swak houding teenoor Jode.Maar dink nie watse massiewe rol so relatief klein nasie speel nie.Vat ons kundigheid weg wat van Joodse afkoms is,sit ons in middeleeue.
I lived at the YMCA on Rissik St in '78. Started my first full time job at the JSE as a computer operator on a mainframe IBM. I used to walk to work right past the main train station. Jo'burg was on it's way down back then. I hear it's a real hellscape now.. haven't been back to SA since I left in '79 to return to the US.
Africa has come to roost in Jhb slowly reducing it into a Slum.
@@hopebuhali3887 ostlaela sahn wan kutlwa?
Fokof
Jys maal
Jy het jou kop verloor
Tenho Saudades destes anos passados!! Pátria do meu Coração!! É a Pátria dos meus Filhos!! Hoje tudo mudou gostei imenso de ver a Linda Cidade de Johanesburgo
Eu nasci aí em 68 e morei até 78. Daí fui para o Brasil (São Paulo), onde estou até hoje.
I’m not gonna lie that is really clean
It is CLEAN
And if you cannot see it you are blind
No potholes either
No pot holes, no rubish the street, then came the ANC
My fellow South Africans - remember this, your country is beautiful, unfortunately we have all taken it for granted. Don't let government govern you. YOU ARE THE DIFFERENCE. If one man can make a forest over the course of his lifetime then what can a nation do for its people. We are united, don't let words anger you - we are all God's people, let's do Godly things and give our beloved nation back to its people.
NO GOVERNMENT! If only my generation existed back then, would we see that we have created our own demise.
The people of Joburg are weak and need to pray for God's forgiveness as they have forgotten Him. That's why our once beloved city is now equivalent to a rubbish dump filled with foreign crime instigators and no civil society.
May God show us all the way of the truth.
Thank you for this video -
PS: Heritage Day is false or shouldn't exist as our people have forgotten what it actually means. Government should call it Corruption Day or the Day of Lost Civil Rights.
My opinion and solution to this is STOP allowing foreigners to own the businesses in the CBD - Give IT back to OUR People.
BBBEEE is also not empowering black people but enforcing foreign investment away from us. Unfortunately our Government only sees R's not the virtue in its Citizens.
God bless South Africa - please forgive our Sins.
Blessed are the meek. I disagree, Apartheid should've reigned forever. Our Country was better off.
NKOSI SIKELEL IAFRIKA - use this phrase and wipe your ass with it and rub it on your face, that's Johannesburg CBD under ANC reign for those who don't know.
A good tree bares no bad fruit - a bad tree bares no good fruit. Listen to the voice that guides you.
Good luck fellow South Africans.
I love my land South Africa
Not the current one, the old one
Build a time machine 😼
@@moony567 big brain
@@DragonsAndDragons777 ikr😜
@@moony567I will sabotage your machine and make it send you to Cambodia in the 70s 😮
I lived in Johannesburg during the '70's. Movies and restaurants in the CBD and walked home early in the morning after the last train had left - trying to sing Beatles songs along the way.
Look at how lovely nice clean and well maintained Johannesburg was back then. Johannesburg was very safe back then too. Today Johannesburg is a dump. Johannesburg today is dirty run down chaotic and very dangerous.
Look, they got running trains.
A peaceful place without evil, crime rediculous hate speech and blackouts. NO traffic congestion and pestering car guards.What heaven on earth it was 👍.
Our leadership is a true version of I BLEW IT!
Thank you Zao, very cool
Old time like New York
New York City was a shithole in the 70s and 80s it’s definitely better now.
@@visorij3374 it was fine now & the before 2001, Until A Muslim Plane Kissed The Twin Towers
@@rehehehehehehehehehe not Muslim.
@@rehehehehehehehehehe American*
@@rehehehehehehehehehe you can't bomb innocent people oil and expect they won't want revenge, America smell blood everywhere they go
Love this xxxxxz I could cry buckets.
Joburg CBD today still resembles this, with some major differences. Today Joburg CBD is:
1. Run down and filthy, it's actually shambolic in fact
2. Suffers from a lack of services (water, sanitation and electricity)
3. Unsafe and hostile
The "modern" times version of Joburg (And Pretoria CBD) I have known all my life. I always hear the older people talking about how clean and safe these two cities used to be, this has not been my lived experience. I have always dreaded going to these places, and most people know to actively avoid these dangerous and risky places if they can or are able to.
I was last in Joburg in 1972. Left SA for good in 1978. I won't be going back.
Why
@@simonesmuts9347 I don't feel like going back and have no reason to.
You're one of the lucky ones........
@@annetteelliott1494 It wasn't luck. It was by design through forethought.
@Pelasgus Mythology Very happy to stay gone.